1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Hey, off the cup fans. You've You're in the right place. 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Don't worry. You've walked into the correct door. That door 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: is called Talking Coffee. 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: We are we it's me, it's my producers, Lauren and Derek. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: Hello, and we're gonna talk some coffee, some coffee news. 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna do a taste test. 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 3: Pretty exciting. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: I'm really excited. 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: I'm already tasting. 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 4: And we have we have our coffees here. 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Lauren made our coffees. 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not tasting mine yet, but I want 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: to start with something painful. Oh my gosh, it's a confession. 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: And I'm being completely serious. I'm very ashamed to say 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: this out loud. And then we have to uncovered, like 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: we have to, we have to unpack why I'm so 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: ashamed of this. But I'm deeply, deeply ashamed to say 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: I've recently switched to decaf. 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm there's a. 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 4: Lot to this. 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Okay, this didn't happen overnight. We get your therapist on 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: the phone. Seriously, coloran seriously. I you know, I drink 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: a lot of coffee, but I have a heart condition 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: and so caffeine is not great. And so I was 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: always limiting myself to like one giant ice coffee a day, okay, 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: and I would see it throughout the day, but like 27 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: any more than that and it would be counterproductive and 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: not feel great. 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: Recently, I'd start with my morning coffee and like halfway through, 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: I'd get so jittery and anxious, and then by the 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: time I was finished with it, I would crash and 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: get exhausted. Oh so, all the reasons I would start 34 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: my day with coffee were like. 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: We're like a flipped on its head. 36 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: Now I'm instead of excited and ready for the day 37 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: and awake, I am anxious and asleep. 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: Dura ball, It's failing at its job. 39 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: It was totally the only thing it was doing was 40 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: tasting good, but everything else was like really working against me. 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 4: This is so tragic, so tragic journey. 42 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: I lived in this secret pain for a while. 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: How long has it been, well about six. 44 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: Months of that, And I really I attribute it to 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: like everything else that's going wrong in my life right now, perimenopause. 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: I just assume, like, Okay, this is my body reacting 47 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 2: to caffeine. 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: Now at the age I'm at suffered in silence as 49 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: we do, as we do. 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: And then my mom was. 51 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: Visiting and she was like, why aren't you having coffee? 52 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: I told her all of this, and then she said 53 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: the thing that I can't believe. 54 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 2: I didn't think to say, why don't you try decaps? 55 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: It's an entire category of coffee I had completely written off, 56 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: and so I did. I didn't tell anyone, but it did. 57 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: I started trying decaf, and oh my god, it was 58 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: like the sun came again. I can And the added 59 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: benefit is I can drink more coffee throughout the day 60 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: when I want to taste the ritual, the whole experience 61 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: out worrying about my poor little heart worrying you know 62 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: that it's making me anxious or tired. 63 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: It's been so life saving. But this is what I 64 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: need you guys to tell me. 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: Like, I am still ashamed, and I don't know why 66 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: I associated decaf with like weakness. 67 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: You're like, yeah, well, I. 68 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 5: Mean it's the Massachusetts and you obviously is that. 69 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: What it is? 70 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: Because maybe it's because like growing up, the only people 71 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: I knew that ever drank decaf were like very old 72 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: people who wanted to go to bed shortly thereafter, and 73 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: so I just thought, okay, like I'm not thrown in. 74 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: The towel like they are. 75 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm still I am not over my shame. I hope 76 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: to get there one day. I don't think you need to. 77 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm coming out today as part of my sort of 78 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: like getting over question. 79 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm thinking about like the I want to say, 80 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 5: like half a dozen or more, maybe a full dozen 81 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 5: of guests that I've been on the show who have 82 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 5: admitted to you that they had to cut out coffee 83 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 5: and then we. 84 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 6: Sounded yeah, they don't get the you got the question 85 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 6: right sound away, and then they pity him. 86 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 5: Meanwhile, you've been suffering in silence. Meanwhile, did you feel more. 87 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: Critic Did I feel like a hypocrite? Yeah? No, but 88 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: I was trying it out. 89 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know if I would live in decaff world, 90 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: so I didn't want to come out prematurely. 91 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: But so we're here, But we're here. 92 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: It's we're here, and I will have a cup of 93 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: caffeinated coffee when I don't have to worry that I'm 94 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: gonna like fall asleeper, like yeah, I just it's okay. 95 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm on a long drive. Who cares when you're not driving? 96 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: Not driving on a long drive, My husband's driving and 97 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm in the car and I'm just there. 98 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: For the ride. And who cares if I get a 99 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: little drowsy. 100 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: That's okay when a nap can play into the day. Yes, 101 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: I'll have it an ideal day really. 102 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: Or like I'm you know, gonna go out to like 103 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: a party or something. That's okay because I know I'll 104 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: get I'll keep the energy going and yeah it's fine. 105 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, but day to day I am. I'm on the 106 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: decaf train. 107 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 6: So what is the difference in like the experience? What 108 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 6: is how how does it compare? 109 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: Is no measurable difference? I can't There's no difference in taste. 110 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: The difference is I don't feel hard palpitations. 111 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 5: Which I lived with for a lonerful. 112 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: Benefit, right, And yeah, I don't get that crash right after. 113 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: I mean it was the point where like I'd finish 114 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: my morning coffee and need to lay down. 115 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 3: Wow. 116 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: And I've heard that that. 117 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: Happens to some people. I don't know why, but like 118 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: that hadn't happened to me for you know, thirty plus years, yeah, 119 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: forty years. 120 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a bummer, but. 121 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm making lemons lemonade out of lemons. 122 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: Right, because now I can have more coffee. 123 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well it sounds like the only negative 124 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 6: side effect is that you feel weak, but it. 125 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,559 Speaker 4: Is not nothing big deal. 126 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 5: I'm also very curious how people scientists take caffeine out 127 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 5: of coffee, right? 128 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 3: Does that happen? 129 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 2: Right? And I have heard that there's still little caffeine 130 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: and decaf. 131 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is kind of nice that less week. 132 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm not allergic to it, but it's like, yeah, a little. 133 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: Last week, I was hoping we could do a call 134 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: out to our listeners because I would love to hear 135 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: if they also feel ashamed when they order decaf in 136 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: a restaurant or a coffee shop and like where that 137 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 1: comes from being public? 138 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: Abody? 139 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, help me understand my shame, my personal shame. 140 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 141 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: And also if anyone else has had the same experience 142 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: with coffee at this age as a woman that I have, 143 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: you know that, like, I'm not alone that that's happened. 144 00:06:59,200 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm just curious. 145 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: Email us at off the Cup at gmail dot com. 146 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: That's Off the Cup Cup with two p's, just like 147 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: the podcast at gmail dot com. And then next time 148 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: on Talking Coffee, we can share what the listeners have 149 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: told us. 150 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that point. 151 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited. 152 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: Well listen, thank you, thank you for for creating with us. 153 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: Thank you. 154 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: I'll never look at you the same, But. 155 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: Listen, I I'm glad I took this first step. Yeah, 156 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: and that you guys are here to walk. 157 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: Me through it. Yeah. 158 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 5: I really don't think there's any shame in it, but 159 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 5: I but I weirdly understand you. There is something that 160 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 5: we grew up with that suggests decaf drinkers are week 161 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: as weak. 162 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 4: Can we rebrand it somehow? Like could we call it 163 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: something else? Like? 164 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 6: Maybe maybe the shame comes the fact that it's like 165 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 6: d it's like you're taking something out of it. 166 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 167 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 6: Maybe it's like well but heart healthy coffee, survival coffee, 168 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 6: still living. 169 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: Coffee, right right right? 170 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: Or is it like like chill coffee, like just need 171 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: to chill. I don't need to be amped, I just 172 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: need to chill. Yes, maybe it's chill coffee. 173 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 5: This is making me excited because I often want a 174 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: another coffee later in the day but cannot possibly drink 175 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 5: caffeine after afternoon. So alist this is giving me something 176 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 5: to purchase called decafe. 177 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I because my parents drink it. So I had 178 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: little cups. 179 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 2: Nice. 180 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 3: Nice. 181 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. 182 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: It's very life changing. I hope this coffee doesn't throw 183 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: you into a tizzy. 184 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: Or no, I'll be fine. I'll be completely fine. I'm 185 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: so excited. 186 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: So Lauren explained to us, because you mentioned, I think 187 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: on one of our first Tog coffees, you get a 188 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: subscription service. 189 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 5: I do tell us a lot of a subscription service. 190 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 5: It just arrives. It's a concentrate coffee. It's called JAT. 191 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 5: If they want to advertise with us, you know, we're 192 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 5: very open to that. But yeah, I'm I'm sure it 193 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 5: was advertised. 194 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: To me on something. 195 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 5: But you just they give you this adorable little measuring cup. 196 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 5: It's a tablespoon. You pour a tablespoon of the coffee concentrate, 197 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 5: which is a liquid, which is a liquid, yes, and 198 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 5: then you add it to eight ounces of liquid. So 199 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 5: the liquid to more liquid is that water or milk? Well, 200 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 5: that would be a lot of milk. It can be 201 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 5: if you want eight ounces of milk. But in your 202 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 5: eight ounces, if you want milk, you need to factor 203 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,119 Speaker 5: that in because nothing. 204 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: Is worse than like a more water down concentrate. 205 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 5: You can also they claim warm this up, you can 206 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 5: put it in the microwave. I find that to be unnatural. 207 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 5: I don't like the taste as much when it's warmed up. 208 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 5: So you would say this is mostly for ice coffees. Yeah, 209 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 5: in my world works for me. In desperate times, we 210 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 5: have wormed it up. 211 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 212 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, so here's my concern before starting. Before you know, 213 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: I really angry at a Oconos m hm oh fucking terrible, 214 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: Like can I have coffee with water in it? 215 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? 216 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: No, it's true, there's. 217 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: Already water and coffee. It's how it's made. 218 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: You're going to add espresso to a giant cup of water. 219 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: That makes me think, like that's gross. Yeah, I'm concerned 220 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: that this is gonna taste watery. Yeah you say it 221 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: does not. 222 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: It's it's very like highly concentrated. 223 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 5: Like even I was concerned that I messed up the 224 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 5: eight ounces thing, and so when I poured it up, 225 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 5: it was like all the way to the top, and 226 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 5: I was like, that doesn't look right. And then I 227 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 5: tried it and I was like, who that's that's a coffee. 228 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, well I'm gonna let's let's go. 229 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: Derek. 230 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: You try first, I'm sure, okay, the newest coffee drinker. 231 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 6: Yes, I My opinions are not form like a teenager. 232 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 4: I'm a tee. 233 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: This is like asking a fourteen year old do you 234 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: like this exactly? 235 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 4: So I'm going to compare this to root. 236 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: Beer, and okay, I ask all the cave yes, yeah. 237 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 4: But let me so. You want to know if I 238 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 4: think this is delicious? 239 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 240 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: What do you think about the coffee? 241 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: All? 242 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 4: Right? Here we go. 243 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 3: It's very exciting. 244 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it. 245 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: I was actually nervous. 246 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 6: No, you know, I I think I I think first 247 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 6: of all, I will say my my bias coming into 248 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 6: this is I I imagine, like conceptually the idea of concentrate. 249 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 6: It's it's I feel like it's gonna taste diluted. I 250 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 6: feel it's gonna it's gonna taste artificial. 251 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 4: In some way. My first impression is that's that's that's coffee. 252 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 5: It tastes like it definitely has a taste that I 253 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 5: have not tasted with other coffee. 254 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 3: But to me, it's very strong. 255 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I'm gonna go. I've put some milk 256 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: in this, and I've put my sweeteners in it. Just 257 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: the way i'd make any other ice coffee. 258 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I. 259 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: Tell you something. Can I tell you that? Can I 260 00:11:59,640 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: tell you? 261 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: This tastes more like coffee than like ice coffee. I 262 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: know this has the strongest coffee taste, like like coffee 263 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: ice cream, which we love, which we love, but like 264 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: not not because it's sweet, but because the coffee miss. 265 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: Extreme coffee. But when you say. 266 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: Extreme it and strong, it makes me think it's going 267 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: to be bitter and strong. 268 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: It's not. 269 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: It's like a very. 270 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: It's a very velvety I want to it's velvety taste. 271 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: It's the coffeeest coffee flavor. 272 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 6: When you say that, that actually raises my suspicions again 273 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 6: because it's like, wait, why is it? 274 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: How does it taste so much like coffee? 275 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 4: It must not really be coffee? 276 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: But is it real? It's just coffee. 277 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: It's just coffee ingredients, water, coffee. 278 00:12:59,280 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: Word. 279 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: I can barely read it. You have glasses agricus. 280 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: A gericas extract for freshness. So that's like a preservation. 281 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: Oh okay, preservative, that's it. 282 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: That's it. So it is coffee and. 283 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty milligrams of caffeine per tablespoon, which 284 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: is normal. 285 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: You know that? 286 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: Wow, Lauren, have you ever just like chugged it? 287 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 5: No? 288 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: Straight? No. 289 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 5: Caffeine is also something I have to Yeah, played gently 290 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 5: with I will get a migraine for sure. 291 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: Oh that's yeah. 292 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 3: It's a real bummer. 293 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: Listen, I am. 294 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: I'm excited for you into it. 295 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: Do they make a decaf conne? 296 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 3: I'm sure that they do. I have not, you know, 297 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: gone that road. 298 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 5: But because she's a better person, I have not force 299 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 5: to do that yet. 300 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 2: But you'll get there. Lauren. Are you you're like a 301 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: yuraler than me? Yea, yeah, you'll get there. Let's talk. 302 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: Let's talk next year. 303 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 3: I'm not even sure. I think we're almost the same age. 304 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 2: Well, I don't mind sharing. I am. I just turned 305 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: forty six. 306 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 5: I'm turning Actually, always forget what you're twenty twenty five. 307 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 5: I was born in nineteen eighty, so that helps. Forty five. 308 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so we're your apart. Yeah, talk to me to share. Okay. 309 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: See if you're so small, you. 310 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: And your caffeine. 311 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: Oh no, this is delicious. I love it. It's called 312 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: jot jot. 313 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it comes right to my door. 314 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, can't beat that. 315 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 5: I suggested it to a friend and she was like, 316 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 5: let me just do the quick. 317 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: Math here because what she would cost. 318 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I actually I think at this point I'm 319 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 5: paying like fifty something. But there's a deal when you 320 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 5: come into it. And so her math was she was 321 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 5: paying a dollar per cup, which is really good. That's 322 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 5: really good because she was getting some other concentrate and 323 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 5: it was like two fifty per cup. But I'm paying 324 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 5: more than she is, so I think it's more like 325 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 5: maybe I still think it's under two dollars. But I 326 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 5: did not actually do the math, and I was like, oh, 327 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 5: you're a better person than I am. 328 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 6: To actually know. But so Learen do you do you 329 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 6: just drink this now at home? Do you ever have 330 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 6: other types of coffee? 331 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: No? 332 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 5: I still do hot coffee in the winter, But we 333 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 5: are we are gearing up. 334 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: We have got many of these. 335 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 5: Because we will go through like we order three at 336 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 5: a time, and then last year I accidentally doubled that 337 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 5: and it actually worked out fine. 338 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: We made it through all of them. 339 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 5: It's just that they what I would prefer because I 340 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 5: do like hot coffee in the winter is a winter pause, 341 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 5: and they. 342 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: Don't do that. 343 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 5: You can keep like, oh, kicking the delivery can, but 344 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 5: that requires you remember to do that. 345 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: I never do. 346 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: So do they have flavors? Oh? 347 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 5: Yes, many, Like there's seasonal ones, so they'll get like 348 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 5: a pumpkin situation that there's like a winter, you know 349 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 5: whatever something, there's somehow springtime and summer, you know, all 350 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 5: sorts of one fun things. 351 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll look into it. I will tell you I 352 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: am feeling the caffeine already. Put that away just a 353 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: few but that tasted delicious. 354 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so excited. 355 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: You guys like and i'mlike Derek, I've been drinking coffee 356 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: a thousand years. 357 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm I'm very very very well informed. 358 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into some coffee news. Yes, we're going 359 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: to start on the legal front. 360 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: Not great, not it never is. 361 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: Starbucks has been ordered to pay fifty million dollars to 362 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: a delivery driver who was burned after a poorly secured 363 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: lid was handed to him right through the window. 364 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 3: It's like the Seinfeld episode. 365 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: Like the sein Feld episode, Wait. 366 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: How much is he? 367 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 5: Do they have? 368 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: Toy million? 369 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 5: I'm going to go research that episode and find out 370 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 5: what he was going to get before he settled for 371 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 5: the k of gear Long coffee or whatever as. 372 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: Many cappuccinos as you can drink us and as he says, 373 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: but there's more. Canadian woman found a cockroach and or 374 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: tim hornets and is now considering suing. 375 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: I mean you should definitely sue for that. That's real shame. 376 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 377 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: It's one thing to see a cockroach in a in 378 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: a coffee shop. You don't want to do that, but 379 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: that happens. But to have it in your coffee cup, 380 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: then the mind goes to like, how did that get there? 381 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: And where else. 382 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 5: Are those cockroaches's I would definitely sue for that. 383 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: And then the final legal front. This is so interesting 384 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: Paul McCartney that Paul McCartney got Pete's Coffee to drop 385 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: its non dairy milk searcharge after suggesting that he and 386 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: Peta might team up with an anti Pete's billboard. 387 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: The pressure vegan right for. 388 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: Vegans, like why are you punishing people who don't drink 389 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: hows milk with a sta charge for your oat milk 390 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: on and milk bab blah blah blah. Yeah, the kicker 391 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: is Paul McCartney's not vegan. 392 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 5: But that's amazing, speaking for all vegans. 393 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: It's amazing. And what he did he just wrote them 394 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: a letter. 395 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: Oh, because I think a bunch of coffee companies have 396 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: dropped the non dairy search arge and it was like, 397 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: why isn't pete? 398 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: So he wrote them a letter and I. 399 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: Think and it was like vaguely a little threat, a. 400 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: Little bit, little little bit. 401 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: He probably doesn't need much. He has a lot of 402 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: pull being Yeah he does, sir McCartney. 403 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, correct. 404 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: So within a week they drop amazing the search arge. 405 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 3: That's amazing. Well, good for them. 406 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 6: Are those prices not just set by supply and demand? 407 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 6: Like can they just decide from social pressure to change. 408 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: The yes, the way they could decide, we're going to 409 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: do a search charge on this milk that is more 410 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: expensive for us to buy, and so therefore we're going 411 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: to make it more expensive for you to buy. And 412 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: but this pressure from outside, yeah, is making them say, okay, 413 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: I guess we can't. 414 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: Get away with that. 415 00:18:59,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: Well, don't work. 416 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 5: We have Trump in office, so they'll just get wind 417 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 5: of that and bring that clean white cow's milk. 418 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: That's hour, that is right. 419 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: You know, that's happening. Some other nasty news I'm starting. 420 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to some notes. 421 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: International Delight recall. Did you see this? It's bad and 422 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 2: it's everywhere. International Delight, which is what a. 423 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: Lot of people use to put cream in their coffee, 424 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: recalled seventy five thousand bottles of coffee creamer because of 425 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: complaints of spoilage and illness and a weird texture. 426 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 3: Oh happened? 427 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: I don't want to know, but it's cinnamon Classic, Cinnamon 428 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: Roll coffee Creamer, Hazelnut coffee Creamer are the some of 429 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: the bottles that were recalled. So if you've got that 430 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: in your fridge. 431 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 5: Oh my god, throw it out and consider the non flavored. 432 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 5: That's a lot of flavor or milk. Consider Yeah, cinnamon 433 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 5: roll creamer, that just sounds like counting go well with 434 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 5: coffee met chemicals. 435 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's a big recall, So check your fridges. 436 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 2: Okay, this one's crazy, you know. 437 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: I researched coffee news and I look all kinds of 438 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: places for this, right, I spour the internet and I 439 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: found this press release went out to all of like 440 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: the coffee. 441 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: Trades, big news. 442 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: The Grinder Lab, which is a company that makes coffee grinders, 443 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: proud to announce the launch of the TGL seven forty 444 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: seven a manual coffee grinder that stands apart for its precision, luxury, luxury, 445 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: and innovation. 446 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 2: Designed for coffee enthusiasts, the Swiss. 447 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: Made tool is set to upgrade how coffee is ground 448 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: and enjoyed. 449 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: I'll just tell you. 450 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: Some of the the tricks that this coffee grinder can do. 451 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: Precision grinding with a ten microns click, a vertical adjustment 452 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: of the burrs, and fifty clicks per revolution. The TCL 453 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: seven forty seven delivers the highest resolution on the market. 454 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. 455 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 3: What does that even mean? 456 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: Crafted from a three hundred and sixteen liters surgical grades 457 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: stainless steel, this high precision mechanical construction is supported by 458 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: four ball bearings, ensuring durability and consistent performance. Elegant design, 459 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: stability and safety optimized for comfort. 460 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: I have a picture of it, Oh okay, that I 461 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: brought in. 462 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: Well, this is the coffee grinder. It's pretty can I 463 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: I just want to point something out. It's manual. 464 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you grind it yourself. I'm wondering what you think 465 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: this coffee grinder costs. 466 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 5: I mean, way too much. Let's just describe it for 467 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 5: the listeners. 468 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: Okay, well, it's pretty stainless steel and black and has 469 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: a stainless steel and black grinder about it. 470 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 5: Crank crank, but it has this little diamond pattern that 471 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 5: evokes architecture in some way. 472 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: It's true, and it's on the it's on the handle 473 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 4: as well. 474 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: I hate to ask. 475 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: It's like, it's a mannualrid. 476 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: Couple hundred dollars. 477 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: Why don't you venture a guess? 478 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 3: Two fifty Derek. 479 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: I'll go less. I'll say, like eighty five. 480 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 3: Okay, that's a cheap grinder. 481 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 5: It's four hundred ninety sevens got that's insane. 482 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: You gotta do the work. 483 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: Four hundred and ninety seven. Call it an even five hundred. 484 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: But they're like, no, we're just under we're just under 485 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: five hundred. 486 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: We're affordable. 487 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, four hundred and ninety to grind your own coffee. 488 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta word. That looks hard too. You gotta 489 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 3: really get some arm strength there. 490 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 2: Could it be? No? 491 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 6: So I gotta say I I would love to get 492 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 6: my hands on that thing. So every every day I 493 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 6: have a it's not so fancy, but I have a 494 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 6: manual grinder that I love. I love using it. And 495 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 6: it's it adds to the ritual of it. 496 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 4: It adds to the ritual of the experience, right, you know, 497 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 4: I put it on of course, which is which is valuable, and. 498 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 6: I put it, I put it on the scale, I 499 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 6: put the whole beans inside, measure it out, and then 500 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 6: when you first start cranking, it's like very rough, you know, 501 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 6: it's like yeah, and then when you know you're done 502 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 6: because it's smooth and it's all little exactly, Yeah, it 503 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 6: feels good and it's no. Well that's how much I 504 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 6: did not spend five hundred dollars on this, but I 505 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 6: did get one that you adjust the you can adjust. 506 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 4: The how fine it grinds. 507 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 6: And I guess it's if you want to make you know, 508 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 6: espresso versus pour over whatever, it's different, right, right, consistency 509 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 6: and I honestly, I just said it once and I've 510 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 6: just never adjusted it out after that. 511 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let's. 512 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: See if iHeart will pick up the tab for a 513 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars grinder and then we can all try it. 514 00:23:59,720 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 515 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 6: Honestly, I would imagine if it's really fancy, it probably 516 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 6: is easier to turn, It probably doesn't require as much force. 517 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you. 518 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: It features a stable, wide based receiver which provides exceptional stability. 519 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: It prevents tilting or falling off the table, which could 520 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: lead to damage. 521 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 4: Mine has never fallen off the table. 522 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: Don't forget about those ball bearings. Those ball bearing hard 523 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: doing something. 524 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: It's thoughtful design prioritizes haptics and portability, allowing for pleasant 525 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: grinding experience while being light A light weight enough for travel. 526 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: Oh, it's on the go, this thing with you? 527 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: Put that little grinder in my pocket. 528 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 6: I would love to grind. I would love to try 529 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 6: it once. I would love to. 530 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just want to. 531 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: Oh it's stepless and easy to read. I would hope. 532 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: So you're just fucking grinding the instructions. 533 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 5: The list, there are two steps. At least you have 534 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 5: to pour the beans in touch sensitive. 535 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 2: What could that mean? 536 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: Does no kidding, I'm touching it, I'm working it. 537 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: I'm doing it. Wait wait, watch inspired dial, a watch 538 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: inspired dial, Swiss precision here or I don't know. This 539 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: is insane. I'm sorry. I love coffee. I love the 540 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: preciousness of coffee. This is insane. 541 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, they're evoking the watch. The watch thing is. They're like, oh, 542 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 6: you'd spend a ton of money on a watch and 543 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 6: it's just a watch. You know, you'd spend a ton 544 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 6: of money on it. 545 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 5: And you every day Swiss watch every day, it would 546 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 5: owe you money after five hundred days. 547 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 4: That's true. 548 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 3: That's true, four hundred and ninety eight. Actually, yeah, okay. 549 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: But I do want to try it. 550 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: You have you guys heard of this coffee with a 551 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: younger self trend? 552 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 4: No? 553 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 2: Have you seen? It's not like on TikTok. 554 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 5: Huh. 555 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: And it all started because this poet, Janey Cecilia, posted 556 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: a TikTok of a poem I think that she wrote 557 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: that describes meeting her younger self for coffee, and it's 558 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: called I Met myself. 559 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: I met my younger self for a coffee And so. 560 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: Now people are doing this and basically she sits down 561 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: and reintroduces herself to her younger self and like, here's 562 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: where we're at today, and you know, here's what we're doing, 563 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: and congratulations this part of you know, your hopes and 564 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: wishes turned out and it's nice. It is nice, and 565 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: so people are doing it the I met my younger 566 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: self for a coffee trend, and uh, I guess Jenna 567 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: Jenna Bush Hagar did it for the Today Show, and 568 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, like, what you would say to your. 569 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: Younger self if you met for coffee. Derek would be. 570 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 6: Like, why my younger self would be would be scandalized, 571 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 6: I'm telling yeah, my younger self would be like, oh no, 572 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 6: he's he's become a state, right right. And then my 573 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 6: my current self would say, yes, my child, you'll. 574 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 5: Like it, and you'll get this five hundred dollars. 575 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 6: No, but you know what, I really I love this 576 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 6: idea and I love thinking back on your sort of 577 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 6: younger self with compassion. You know, I really like that 578 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 6: a lot because I you know, I have I have 579 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 6: this like a digital photo frame that I keep at 580 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 6: my desk, which is like my full like grandparent level 581 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 6: the thing that I do. But I love it because 582 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 6: I love like reflecting that we take all these pictures 583 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 6: with our phones or whatever. 584 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: You know, when do you like look at the pictures 585 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 4: that you take? Yeah? 586 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 6: So I love like just like randomly seeing older pictures, 587 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 6: and I love reflecting on my on my childhood and 588 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 6: my adolescence and like I'm I'm a very different person 589 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 6: now than I than I was then, and I've grown 590 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 6: but in a lot of ways, I'm the same person, 591 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 6: and I love the connections with like, well, the values 592 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 6: that I have now are the are the values that 593 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 6: I had then, and like the even even even as 594 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 6: I've evolved in change and stuff. 595 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 4: So I love that. I would love to have coffee. 596 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you? 597 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like that's a really heavy question. 598 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 5: I've been having a lot of identity issues that I 599 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 5: talked through with my therapist. I had this moment seeing 600 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 5: college friends where I was like, do you guys think 601 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 5: back at college and think like that was my true self? 602 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: And they're like, sure, but. 603 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 5: There's something about like looking back, I had so much 604 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 5: fun in college. 605 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 3: I was so relaxed. I wasn't You had no worries. 606 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 3: That was the thing. 607 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 5: There was nothing encumbering me, know when you had all 608 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 5: this new freedom so much. I had so much freedom, 609 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 5: and it was like I could hang out with anyone 610 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 5: and I would talk to anyone. Yes, And I loved 611 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 5: that aspect of it. 612 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: And you were literally there to like figure out who 613 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: you were. 614 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, just absorb things, Yeah, just experience, Like work was 615 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 5: very much secondary, which I do regret now, But I 616 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 5: would love to take an English class. 617 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: So I don't know. I guess, oh gosh, I don't know. 618 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 5: I guess I would tell little Lauren that life is 619 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 5: a little harder, but to keep an eye out for 620 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 5: those moments where you can reconnect with that like loose 621 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 5: self and like to try to have fun. 622 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: And it sounds like I don't have fun. 623 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 5: I think, you know, it's like kids really just layered 624 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 5: so much on top of that freedom and that personality 625 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 5: that like, yeah, I guess I would say, like, play 626 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 5: with your kids more, but so unnatural to me, like 627 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 5: Ronnie can play with our kids. My friend and I 628 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 5: talk with this all the time, like I cannot really 629 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 5: play pretend. We're like, don't forget your backpack, like the 630 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 5: logistical friend, like this isn't fun, right. 631 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: I was always bad at like pretending to lose board games. 632 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: A hundred percent. 633 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: I cannot physically be this bad. No, and this is dumb. 634 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 3: My husband and I would like eye each other across. 635 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 4: Me, like you guys, you got to let this go. 636 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 4: I mean, celebrit Jeopardy Champ being over here. 637 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 5: Also, they have to learn, I remember, have to learn babysitting. 638 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 5: This young kid named Bryce, and he had much older siblings, 639 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 5: not much older siblings, so it was really just me 640 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 5: and him, and he wanted to play chess, and I 641 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 5: vaguely knew chess, but compared to the six year old, 642 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 5: I knew a lot more and I won. I did 643 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 5: not let him win, and he would not let me 644 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 5: forget it. He told his mom we played chess and 645 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 5: more than one. I don't think he'd ever like lost. 646 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: Right right growing up? 647 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: That like a good lesson exactly. 648 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: I was like, dude, it was just the beginning. 649 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: It probably was. 650 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: I still only have those teenage skills, So. 651 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, what about you, as he would, what would want 652 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 6: to say to your younger self over coffee? 653 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: I think I would tell my younger self to relax 654 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: and not work so hard. But it's such a catch 655 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: twenty two because working so hard and being so stressed 656 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: got me to where I got, and I'm grateful for that. 657 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: And I could only work that hard in my twenties 658 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: because in my thirties I had a family and then 659 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: I had to slow down. So that is when I 660 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: should have been working hard, but I was so worried 661 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: and anxious. 662 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: And this is at a very young age. 663 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: That started this like pressure on myself and I think, yeah, 664 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: I was too hard on myself, and I would have 665 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: told myself, like, it's all gonna be fine, It's gonna 666 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: be fine. 667 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll get there. 668 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you will get there. 669 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: Your ambition, your your skills, you'll get yourself there somehow. 670 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: You don't need to be this crazed, you know. 671 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: But again, like we've had this conversation with some of 672 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: our guests on Off the Cup. I think it was 673 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: Mark Duplas was like I would I would tell younger 674 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: people to like figure out their mental health stuff earlier than. 675 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: We did, but I would also tell them work your ass. 676 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: Off, Yeah, because that's when you can those two things 677 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: can be true. 678 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 5: Yes, you know, it's like embarking on a therapy journey 679 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 5: as well as working your ass off. 680 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so I don't but I don't even know that. 681 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: This is like I love this idea, but I don't 682 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: even know this is a valid like project. 683 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: First of all, impossible, Yeah until time travel. 684 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 5: Until time times, I don't remember, I can't play. 685 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, I can't tell you that I could actually 686 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: do that. 687 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 4: Second about butterfly effect, you wouldn't even want to because. 688 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: Then you're exactly that's exactly what I was gonna say, 689 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: like what would you change? 690 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: And who knows what that would change? 691 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: And now suddenly I'm forty six and without a family, 692 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: without a kid, without a because I met myself for coffee. 693 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 3: Yeh, I'm told that. 694 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it's so true, like unless you have some 695 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 5: serious regrets in this moment, yeah, like and all things considered, 696 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 5: it's like, it's hard to look back with such regret 697 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 5: because it got me to this place. And you know, 698 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 5: there's things that I would change now, but I can 699 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 5: continue to change. 700 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 3: Them, exactly, can only really move forward. 701 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe the idea, Like I think it would 702 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: have been cool if someone had told sixteen, fifteen year 703 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: old Essie, write a note to your future self about 704 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: like who you are today, yeah, and your anxieties, And 705 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: that could have been instructive to me as I grew 706 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: up and got older and like moved through life to 707 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: look back on what I was thinking when I was younger. 708 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that could have been cool. 709 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 6: You want to take from your younger self, you don't 710 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 6: want to give to your younger. 711 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: Self, exactly right, you owe me. 712 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 6: My favorite movie last year was My Old Ass. Did 713 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 6: either of you see that? 714 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 715 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 6: So it's The premise is this young woman she's like 716 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 6: about to graduate high school and she does like mushrooms 717 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 6: with her friends in the woods one night, and she's 718 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 6: visited by Aubrey Plaza, who is herself as like a 719 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 6: few years later, you know, or a couple decades later. 720 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 4: So it's kind of a the same premise. 721 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 6: But it's a beautiful it's a lovely coming of age movie, 722 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 6: and it's a lot of you know, coming of age. 723 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 6: Those type of movies take place in the past because 724 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 6: they're like the filmmakers reflecting on their past. 725 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 4: But this is kind of like the imagining to that. 726 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, like the present person is the younger version of 727 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 6: the person, right, But yeah, it's a very sweet movie 728 00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 6: and it's. 729 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get out, okay. Next, talking coffee news. We've 730 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: talked about this a little before, the fruit coffee trend. 731 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: Remember we talked about banana. 732 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 5: I remember, oh, yes, I was thinking about the yes, yes, 733 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 5: the banana coffee. Well, it's exploding, this fruit trend. I 734 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 5: guess where else. 735 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: San Francisco, of course, But let me just tell you 736 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: some of the things they're doing out there with our coffee. 737 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: Listen to what they're doing to our coffee. 738 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 2: Wasabi coffee. 739 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 3: I'm curious though, I'm crea. 740 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: Have you ever thought I like this coffee? But it 741 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: should be spicier and taste like horse radish. 742 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 3: It should be insanely I wanted to clear my. 743 00:34:54,200 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: Right that said I would try that avocado coffee again. 744 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: Is it just like a smoothie, because that could be interesting. 745 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 4: I'm interested in that too. 746 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, because avocado doesn't have a very strong favor. It 747 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: could just make it creamy. 748 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it could be kind of a creamy non 749 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: dairy yeah. 750 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 5: Yeah. 751 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: Addition, Jo Coffy would be pleased. 752 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 2: I might, I might enjoy. 753 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 4: That are delicious. I love avocato, Yes. 754 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 2: I put so for my son. 755 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: I'll make a milkshake after school with ice cream but 756 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: also avocado. 757 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 2: Because he can't taste it. 758 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's good fatty as you know, there's a 759 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: good fat in them. And I'll throw some other you know, 760 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: veggies in that he can't taste. 761 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: And so avocado is a very good like sneaky sneaky vega. 762 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: Olive coffee, olive oil they have lost absolutely not. 763 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I know olive oil cake is delicious, but 764 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 3: I don't. 765 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 2: Want oil in my coffee. 766 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 6: I made brownies with olive oil one time, like it 767 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 6: did not turn out very well. 768 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't like it. Maybe I did a 769 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 4: bad job, but. 770 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to oil in my coffee. 771 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 3: No, that's a hard pass. 772 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I also use I don't know if you know 773 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 2: you guys. 774 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: So I'm into skincare as well, and there's an ingredient 775 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: called squalane and it's you could you could source it 776 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: in multiple places from like shark fins and shark livers 777 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: illegal to olive oil. 778 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 6: Right, and yet that's what you said first. 779 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: No, the squalene I use is derived from olive oil. 780 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 2: And so I cannot get past the idea of like 781 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: putting something on my face and in my coffee. 782 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little for you, a little for my hazeling. 783 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 4: For my coffee. Lemon coffee a lot of acid involved. 784 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, wouldn't it like kurdle the milk if you had milk. 785 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: Lemon is my favorite fruit flavor of anything. I love lemon, 786 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: but I can't imagine what it would do to coffee. 787 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 3: And not imagine let's stream. 788 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's smoked apple coffee. 789 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 3: What Yeah, so much going on? 790 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 4: So much going on apple? 791 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 2: Why are we smoking it? I know. 792 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: Uh huh yeah, okay, orange juice Americano immediately now, immediately, no, 793 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: no to the Americano, No to the oj again. 794 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 4: The citrus and coffee, I don't think. 795 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: I don't. 796 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 4: I can't imagine citrus and coffee going. 797 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: Well, now you know what's weird. My husband loves like 798 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: orange and chocolate joins and chocolate. 799 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 6: Yes, that works, so maybe, but it's it's chocolate and 800 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 6: coffee so similar that I mean, I guess there are. 801 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 3: People think they're not beans. 802 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, but I hate chocolate. Oh, I love 803 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: the shaming. Yeah. 804 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 5: Side story, When I was growing up, my best friend's 805 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 5: brother couldn't drink lactose. And this is at a time 806 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 5: when we did not have all the options right, and 807 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 5: so one option was driving like an hour to a 808 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 5: farm to get goat milk, and so that wasn't possible 809 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 5: all the time. And so when the brother would he 810 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 5: was best friend with my brother, and so when he 811 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 5: would sleep over, he would ask for cereal with orange juice. 812 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: Stop stop. 813 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 5: And I remember many times I'm watching this young kid, no, 814 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 5: and I was like this, but even then I was like, 815 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 5: I realized he has no options. 816 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 2: But no, there's an option. You can eat cereal dry 817 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: with orange juice. 818 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: Right, even water, even water would be better than OJ 819 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: That's wild. 820 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 3: Makes me very uncomfortable. That's immediately what I thought of 821 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 3: when you. 822 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 4: Said, yeah, and that child grew up to be a 823 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 4: serial killer. 824 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: Okay, last talking coffee news item, how would you guys 825 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: feel about going into your favorite coffee shop in the 826 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: morning ten am? Say ten am and there's a DJ 827 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: playing a set. 828 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 3: No, I want less noise in my life. 829 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 2: I want no noise. 830 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 4: I'm listening, I'm listening. 831 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: Well, there's this apparently is a very hot trend in Austin, 832 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: Texas where they're hiring like the hot local DJs to 833 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: play at ten am at the coffee shop. 834 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 3: For vibes, for vibes, is it a different vibe? 835 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: Like that's like it's a club vive too much, which 836 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 2: is weird. No, that's weird, but Austin's weird, and they 837 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 2: keep Boston weird. 838 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 3: They want to keep it that way. 839 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: And I love Austin, but like, dude, dude, no, no. 840 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 5: Although I am curious if you are there to stop 841 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 5: by and see what those vibes are like, like maybe 842 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 5: we're I'm just thinking of a terrible vibe and it's 843 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 5: like a good vibe. 844 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. 845 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you'll go into a hotel, like a 846 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: like a trendy hotel, like a w or something that's 847 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: like aimed at young people, and you walk in, you're 848 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: in the lobby and there's like club music. 849 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 2: It's like and the like. 850 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 3: It's also ten in the morning. 851 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: It's seven in the morning, and I'm just checking in 852 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: and it's club vibes. So I wonder if I'm just 853 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: too old for this and like this is appealing to 854 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: some younger people. 855 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'm imagining. 856 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 6: So last month you talked about an open position in 857 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 6: Texas to be a brand ambassador for. 858 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: A million coffee. 859 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 4: So I want the Chameleon coffee person. I want. 860 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 6: I imagine like a rom com in which the Chameleon 861 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 6: coffee person meets the DJ from this from this coffee place, 862 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 6: and they like meet the vibes. 863 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 4: Are good. 864 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 2: I had the best idea for a Hallmark movie. 865 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: So my husband and I over the weekends we watch 866 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: like Northwood's Law. Okay, this is like a fish and 867 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: game conservation officers and the stuff they encounter, Okay, okay, 868 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: So you know it seems up your alley, moves on 869 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: the side of the road, fishermen with a legal license, 870 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, hunters with improperism. 871 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 2: All that kind of stuff. 872 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: Well, occasionally they'll find like a downed bird who needs 873 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: tending to and they take the bird to like a sanctuary. 874 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: And there was this one where like this officer was 875 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: going to this woman who cares for the birds, and 876 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, you guys, this is this 877 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,959 Speaker 1: is a Hallmark movie in like a small New England town. 878 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 1: The local game warden and the woman who rescues hawks. 879 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 2: Fall in love. 880 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 3: But where's the tension? 881 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 2: And there's some kind of tension. 882 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 4: This career focused hawk hawk. 883 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 2: She's going to get back to the big city Laune. 884 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 3: She's just moved there. That's always that big. 885 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: To care for her mom, who's not feeling well, and 886 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: so she's going to do the bird thing for a 887 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: little bit. But she's a big vet in the in 888 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: the city, okay, and that's where she's going. 889 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 2: To get back to. 890 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 3: Yes, it's abating all the birds from the tall buildings. 891 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: Exactly so, but is love enough to keep her in 892 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: this small New England town. 893 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 3: You had me at Baby Boom. 894 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, basically Baby boom. Okay, Well that's all the news 895 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,240 Speaker 1: I've got for talking coffee. 896 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 3: This is a good one, delightful. 897 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: I got a lot off my chest. 898 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 899 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 2: This was a bit of a therapy Sash. Yeah, in 900 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 2: some ways. And you guys too. We really opened up 901 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 2: about her younger self. 902 00:41:59,520 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. 903 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 2: See what coffee can do. 904 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 3: I know, it's a real uniter. See what truth serum. 905 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 2: It's truth. I like that. 906 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: Caffeine or no caffeine or no, it's okay. I'm here 907 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: to tell you it's okay to go decaf. 908 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 2: I'll be the first. 909 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: I'll take the first step, and I'll end the stigma 910 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: and the silence by telling you I am I'm doing it. 911 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: You can walk on this journey with me. 912 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 3: We support this. 913 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 4: You're very blue. 914 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are. 915 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 2: So You guys are so supportive. All right, that's it 916 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 2: for talking coffee. 917 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,720 Speaker 1: Email us at off the Cup at gmail dot com. 918 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: If you have coffee news that I'm unaware of, good 919 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: luck good luck finding that. 920 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 2: But no, I do want to hear it. And I 921 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 2: really want like. 922 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: Unpopular or controversial coffee opinions. 923 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 3: That's what I want. 924 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 2: I love that because they're fun. Anytime we ask, like 925 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 2: when is ice coffee season. At the end of Off 926 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 2: the Cup and someone says something really weird, like seventy. 927 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 4: Two degrees, that was a fantastic answer. 928 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 2: It's an amazing answer. Yeah, there's stuff I. 929 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: Don't even know about, So send them all in. I 930 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: can't wait to hear about him, and maybe on the 931 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: next Talking Coffee we'll talk about what you've all shared. 932 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 4: Lazy. 933 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Thanks Lauren, Thanks Derek, Thank you. 934 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 4: Do you want to say that's all the news that's 935 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 4: fit to sip? 936 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 2: Or is just it? 937 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 4: Okay? 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