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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, so we're talking about the election underway today

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Speaker 2: with the primary Super Tuesday. Fifteen states plus American Samoa. Yes, Clay,

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Speaker 2: I was right about that. By the way, that's why

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Speaker 2: people are saying sixteen American Samoa and not a state

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Speaker 2: but gets to vote.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I've never been to American Samo. I wonder.

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Speaker 2: I have friends who have been to Guam because of

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Speaker 2: the military base there, and they say that it's a

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Speaker 2: military base on an island, not super exciting.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what American Samo is like. I have no idea.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'll go check it out someday, but I know

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Speaker 4: on live to Hawaii. Other than I would love to

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Speaker 4: go to the Hawaiian Islands. It's one of my places

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Speaker 4: that I still haven't been to.

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Speaker 2: I've heard Hawaii is one of the most beautiful places

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Speaker 2: on earth. It is a truly blessed state in terms

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Speaker 2: of just natural beauty, resources and everything else. But unfortunately

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Speaker 2: it's very democrat, which is a shame. You and I

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Speaker 2: are funny that way, we both I was just talking

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Speaker 2: to somebody who was a senior person in the Trump

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Speaker 2: administration a few days ago, and she was we were

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Speaker 2: talking about it, and I said, you know, Clay and

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Speaker 2: I both we have a I think it's because I

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Speaker 2: started my career and you were in college there, so

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Speaker 2: we were in fun when you're twenty twenty years old,

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Speaker 2: twenty two years old, which is good. I think you

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Speaker 2: can have fun wherever you are, basically, but I have

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Speaker 2: fun memories of DC, even though it's a communist heel hole.

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Speaker 2: She was saying that she couldn't get out of DC

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Speaker 2: fast enough as an adult every single weekend that she

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Speaker 2: worked for the Trump administration because she loved it.

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Speaker 4: I thought d C was fantastic. Now I know the

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Speaker 4: crimes out of control right now, it's setting all time highs.

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Speaker 4: It's probably, honestly, not much different than it was back

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Speaker 4: in the nineties. When the late nineties when I was there,

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Speaker 4: it was high.

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Speaker 2: I think it was probably a lot worse than actually

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Speaker 2: by the number it maybe things got so good in

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Speaker 2: a lot of cities because you know, enforcing the law works.

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Speaker 3: What a shock. Things got so.

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Speaker 2: Good in a lot of cities that now I think

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Speaker 2: people have really you know, they've forgotten how bad it

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Speaker 2: was before it got good. But anyway, back to Super

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Speaker 2: Tuesday stuff. Oh yeah, whai is amazing You Laura and

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Speaker 2: the boys should definitely go. I've been a few times.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely fantastic stake. As for Biden, I mentioned this at

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Speaker 2: the very very top, a series of Biden aids. This

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Speaker 2: is from a New Yorker reporter or journalist, a series

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Speaker 2: of senior Biden aids. Quote told me that they doubt

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Speaker 2: Biden is trailing Trump as much as some.

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Speaker 3: Polls have suggested.

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Speaker 1: Quote.

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Speaker 3: Polling is broken. Okay, let's before we die. Now.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting because, as we've said, guys, the polling so

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Speaker 2: far in this election cycle has been pretty spot on

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Speaker 2: across the board.

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Speaker 3: There's been no big surprises to speak of.

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Speaker 2: CNN's data guy was on TV. This is pretty funny.

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Speaker 2: This is I think where the Democrats are right now.

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Speaker 2: They don't know what to do because the numbers don't

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Speaker 2: make sense to them because what they think should be

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Speaker 2: destrewing Trump, what they think should be pushing Trump under

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Speaker 2: the water, is elevating him out, is lifting him up

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Speaker 2: into the skies. This has cut six. This is CNN

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Speaker 2: freaking out.

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Speaker 3: Player.

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Speaker 5: I like to dig a little bit deeper into the

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Speaker 5: polling data, and this to me sort of says it all.

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Speaker 5: Has Trump committed serious federal crimes A majority, a majority

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Speaker 5: of likely voters say.

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Speaker 1: Yes he did.

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Speaker 5: Yeah he's still ahead.

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Speaker 3: How is that possible?

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Speaker 5: Because look at twenty twenty four Trump supporters. It turns

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Speaker 5: out eighteen percent of them say that Trump has actually

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Speaker 5: committed serious federal crimes, and yet they're still voting for it.

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Speaker 2: Clay, I just think this is so significant because it

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Speaker 2: starts to go to maybe they really did just miscalculate

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Speaker 2: on this whole thing. Maybe the prosecutions are just backfiring

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Speaker 2: ways that they didn't anticipate because they have Trump arrangement syndrome.

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Speaker 4: I think that's one hundred percent accurate. And I said

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Speaker 4: yesterday and to me, this is the essence of the race.

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Speaker 4: If you look at that New York Times poll has

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Speaker 4: Trump up four or five points, depending, which is the

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Speaker 4: biggest lead he's ever had in.

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Speaker 1: New York Times poll.

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Speaker 4: Sienna, and also we should mention in general, when your

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Speaker 4: argument is the polls are wrong, it always means you're losing.

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Speaker 4: Nobody ever says the polls are wrong when they're winning.

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Speaker 4: Just out there for everybody to think about. Sometimes the

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Speaker 4: polls were wrong in sixteen, they were in twenty not

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Speaker 4: so much right, and in twenty two they were actually

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Speaker 4: wrong in favor of Republicans. So and by the way,

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Speaker 4: wrong can mean one or two points off because our

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Speaker 4: races are so close.

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Speaker 1: But Buck, the data actually reflects. And this is what

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Speaker 1: I would say to the Trump team.

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Speaker 4: You've got to make Joe Biden the story because people's

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Speaker 4: opinions of Trump haven't actually changed. And I think that's

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Speaker 4: ultimately what that CNN analyst who's losing his mind over

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Speaker 4: is coming to grips with the favorability and unfavorability for Trump,

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Speaker 4: Buck is nearly identical in twenty and twenty four have collapsed.

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Speaker 4: That's will change. Also, I think that it makes it

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Speaker 4: very clear how much they have miscalculated this. If the

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Speaker 4: numbers really do show and continue to show, that Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump as a convicted felon.

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Speaker 2: Put aside that you know, we think that it's garbage

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Speaker 2: and that these are it's lawfair, it's just the reality.

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Speaker 2: The technical reality would be that he would in this scenario,

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Speaker 2: that he would be a convicted felon, and that he

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Speaker 2: would still as a convicted felon. Trounce Joe Biden. There

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Speaker 2: is absolutely not a single prominent Democrat I think thought

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Speaker 2: that would be the case like that that you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they thought Republicans would still vote.

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Speaker 3: They didn't think though, that.

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Speaker 2: More people would vote for him if you were if

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Speaker 2: you were tried and convicted of all this, And that

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Speaker 2: seems to be the trend right now, which is quite

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Speaker 2: a shock to them.

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Speaker 4: I think it's Biden collapsing. And this is why I

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Speaker 4: don't think the money's gonna They're going to spend billions

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Speaker 4: of dollars, billions of dollars on this election. Who doesn't

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Speaker 4: have their mind made up about Trump or Biden right now?

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Speaker 4: We've not it was eighteen ninety two when we had

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Speaker 4: a rematch. We effectively have two incumbent presidents. Everyone on

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Speaker 4: the planet, but certainly every one of the United States,

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Speaker 4: has an opinion of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: We know that.

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Speaker 4: And the opinion of Donald Trump is about eight or

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Speaker 4: nine points to the negative Biden. Now everybody has an

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Speaker 4: opinion on him and Biden. At the time of the

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty election, Buck had a I jotted this down.

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Speaker 4: Biden at the time of the twenty twenty election had

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Speaker 4: a plus ten net positive fifty two percent of people

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Speaker 4: Compared to Trump, that was a plus twenty because Trump

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Speaker 4: was about ten points underwater. I'm talking about just whether

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Speaker 4: you like the guy or not. And so they ran

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Speaker 4: the Joe Biden's a good guy and and everybody's going

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Speaker 4: to be you know, he's this year kindly old grandfather.

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Speaker 4: And what happened is those numbers have taint. Biden's favorability

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Speaker 4: and his lack of favorability is unfavorable rating skyrocketed from

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Speaker 4: forty two to fifty nine. So Biden went from plus

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Speaker 1: Trump hasn't moved at all. That's the election, and that's what.

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Speaker 4: I think is going to stay the same, because I

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Speaker 4: don't think people are going to change their opinion about

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Speaker 4: Biden or Trump, and I think Trump's gonna win eight

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Speaker 4: months out.

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Speaker 1: That's what the numbers would reflect.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna move much, and I think

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Speaker 4: Democrats are slowly starting.

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Speaker 1: To recognize that.

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Speaker 4: And anytime you say the polls are wrong, your guy's

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Speaker 4: probably not doing that well.

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Speaker 1: Just just FYI, the.

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Speaker 4: Polls are wrong. The polls are wrong. Have you even

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Speaker 4: heard of democrat make that argument before in the presidential election?

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Speaker 2: No, it's this is the last This is the last

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Speaker 2: option you have is to say the numbers aren't really

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Speaker 2: the numbers, or we don't believe the numbers. That's because

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Speaker 2: you can't spin them because they're so clear in one direction.

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Speaker 2: And look, it's still ongoing. But the big plan, the

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Speaker 2: trojan horse that they were trying to roll out before

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Speaker 2: Maga front Gate here is so far a massive failure,

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Speaker 2: which is this whole legal thing. Yes, and I'll be honest,

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Speaker 2: I didn't think it would be such a failure. I

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Speaker 2: thought that, you know, because there was some early polling

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Speaker 2: and I figured, well, maybe they're they're gonna be able

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Speaker 2: to fool people. But you know, maybe people have a

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Speaker 2: little more memory of Russia collusion and the farce that

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Speaker 2: that was. Maybe maybe there's the exhaustion with all the

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Speaker 2: screaming about Trump as Hitler and destroying the Republic has

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Speaker 2: finally reached a point where people have just had enough.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: I think they likely have. And you know what, I

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Speaker 4: haven't had enough of yet. Buck March madness.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch college basketball.

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Speaker 4: Tonight while I'm gonna be I don't know how many

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Speaker 4: and forth between the Alabama Florida basketball game, also to

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Speaker 4: see what the Super Tuesday results are going to be,

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Speaker 4: just to confirm. I think basically, as soon as the

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Speaker 4: polls are shutting down in each state, they're going to

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Speaker 4: immediately go ahead and call it, and then we'll see

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Speaker 4: how much of a margin we're going to run up,

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Speaker 4: meaning Donald Trump. But I am super excited to watch

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Speaker 4: the Florida game tonight. Go ahead to head with Alabama.

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Speaker 4: It's a great SEC basketball game. It's probably the best

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Speaker 4: Travis Buck Sexton show.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's hit a couple of stories here. Buck one.

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Speaker 4: Michelle Obama, who I still believe is going to be

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, if it goes to the convention, there's

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Speaker 4: French laundering dinners. Gretchen Whitmer will take you out on

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Speaker 1: But nobody remembers that. Evidently, in during the covid Era, JB.

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Speaker 4: Pritzker, billionaire Air of the I believe Marriott, Hotel Fortune,

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Speaker 4: And out there sitting on the edge watching all of

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Speaker 4: this playout, Michelle Obama, the savior of the Democrat Party

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Speaker 2: So you think it is disinformation when Michelle Obama's team

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Speaker 3: And this is not happening.

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Speaker 4: This is what everybody does when they actually want the job.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you right now, I'm gonna make Clay.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna cut up my steak. You know, he's gonna

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Speaker 4: I'm not getting off the Michelle Obama train until Joe

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Speaker 4: and whatever day that is, Ali can look up the date.

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Speaker 4: and I will say, Buck Sexton, you have won yourself

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Speaker 1: You can pick time and place.

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Speaker 2: And also I think that day I get to just

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Speaker 4: So so we'll see, we'll see what ends up happening there.

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Speaker 4: I don't think the denial surprises me at all. In fact,

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Speaker 4: the draft Michelle movement, all right. I saw this though yesterday. Buck,

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Speaker 4: He's not gonna get Black women. They are committed, they

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's basically ninety percent plus every time, ninety

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Speaker 3: And you know, there's a whole bunch of stuff we

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Speaker 2: That's I think the likelier pathway to victory for him

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Speaker 3: But I think that.

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Speaker 2: It's likely or that you'll see the deciding factor in

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Speaker 3: But that's a separate issue.

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Speaker 4: We're going to talk to Ryan Gardski about some of

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Speaker 2: Can I agree about some of your supposition? I want to, like,

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Speaker 4: But what I was going to tie in with this

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Speaker 1: Are able to do. Right.

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Speaker 4: This is what you see from Democrats a lot. If

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Speaker 4: I like Charles Barkley, I know him, interviewed him a

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Speaker 7: If I see a black person walking around with Trump munks,

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Speaker 8: Charles, I know, Gil, Gil, Gil.

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Speaker 6: You really can't say that because A, you don't mean that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean that sincerely, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 8: Just tell you something and then you will be arrested

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Speaker 6: Then what I'm gonna bail myself out and go celebrate.

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Speaker 3: First off, I was at that at that conference, I'd

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Speaker 7: That was an insult to all black people because he

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Speaker 4: number already is coming from black men. I think the

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Speaker 4: number is around twelve or thirteen percent of Black men

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Speaker 4: supposedly voted for Trump in twenty twenty. I think that's

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Speaker 4: the number. So you're talking about a doubling. I think

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Speaker 4: I think he could double black male support in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four. I think that's what he believes, and I

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Speaker 4: think if he puts Tim Scott on the ticket. That's

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Speaker 4: what he's gambling that he's going to be able to do.

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Speaker 2: I feel like every election cycle Republicans go down this

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Speaker 2: pathway and they say, you know, maybe this time because yeah,

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Speaker 2: we would love we would love a lot more than

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent of the blackmail vote or the black

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Speaker 2: vote in general to be Republican.

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Speaker 1: But we go through this.

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Speaker 2: And it's always you know, people raise a bunch of

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Speaker 2: money and they say, oh, we're going to change the

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Speaker 2: voting habits of the black community this time around. Never works.

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Speaker 2: Just this is cynical meat, just telling you never works.

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Speaker 2: I can try, it doesn't work, I know, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. And that to me is the other

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Speaker 2: thing we're forgetting on the ticket. That's the way that

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Speaker 2: doesn't But that doesn't work what he's thinking, I know.

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Speaker 2: But that's what he's thinking if he does it. To me,

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Speaker 2: if he's thinking that and he does it, I think

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Speaker 2: he's not paying attention to what's happened in American politics

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Speaker 2: for like the last forty years.

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Speaker 3: Anytime that you.

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Speaker 2: Have a black person, by the way, shock you. No,

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Speaker 2: that doesn't mean yeah, that he won't do it. I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying he actually might just you know, but black

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Speaker 2: Republicans do not get the allegiance of black voters. That's

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Speaker 2: not how you know, that's not how it works. That's

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Speaker 2: just I mean, look at it. Look at all these

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Speaker 2: different times you've had, you know, look at the kind

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Speaker 2: of numbers that when you know, when Herman Kane rest

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Speaker 2: in peace, when he was running in GOP and you know,

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Speaker 2: you see when I say you see a little bit

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Speaker 2: of movement, there's maybe a little more of a sense

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Speaker 2: of okay, like, but the the black vote is just

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Speaker 2: is incredibly consistent and solidified for Democrats and has been

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Speaker 2: for so I.

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Speaker 1: Get it right.

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Speaker 2: It's like, if you can break that coalition, you've broken

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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party effectively. But this is a little bit

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Speaker 2: like when Democrats say they want to win Texas. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: but you know, you're you're going, you know, you ever

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Speaker 2: play Capture the Flag back in the day, right, You're

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Speaker 2: you're just making a sprint for the flag. You're not

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Speaker 2: doing any tactics. You're going right for it to take

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Speaker 2: the fight to the other side.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll see.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually curious what Kurdusky will say at the bottom

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Speaker 4: of the hour but that is to me again, if

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Speaker 4: he's going to pick as his vice presidential candidate Tim Scott,

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Speaker 4: that is Trump saying, I believe we're going to make

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Speaker 4: an inroads with black mail voters again, black and mail.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Hard to do that.

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Speaker 2: Before and there was the First Step Act and the

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Speaker 2: stuff that Jared Kushner was involved in, and that backfired.

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Speaker 3: Actually that was not good because.

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Speaker 1: Then that was a man.

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Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter was rampaging through American cities.

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Speaker 3: It was it didn't.

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Speaker 2: We just do a whole jail Break Act thing and

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Speaker 2: let all these people out of prison who were supposed

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Speaker 2: to serve much longer sentences, remember that, So you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and by the way, we should put We talked

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Speaker 4: a lot about October surprises. BLM has been very quiet.

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Speaker 4: Every four years, BLM finds somebody to rally around. They

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Speaker 4: did with George Floyd in twenty twenty. I think that

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Speaker 4: destroyed any possibility of Trump had much inroads with the

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Speaker 4: black vote. Will there be another BLM uprising in the

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Speaker 4: next few months. It's about time for that to start

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Speaker 4: to get percolating. If they're going to try to turn

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Speaker 4: that dial up again, very well.

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Speaker 3: Could be.

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Speaker 2: We'll take some calls eight hundred two two two eight two.

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Speaker 2: You know, as Kamala Harris shouts out about the right

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Speaker 2: to abortion, do you think she takes people into consideration

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Speaker 2: that might be outside her circle of friends?

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Speaker 3: Probably not.

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Speaker 2: There are so many people in this country who believe

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Speaker 2: in the value of life, people who think that life

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. I want to talk

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Speaker 2: a little bit about immigration here for a second. This

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Speaker 2: up on Daily Mail, Elon Musk bashed President Biden's administration

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Speaker 2: after they admitted to flying three hundred and twenty thousand

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Speaker 2: unvetted migrants in the US. As Musk said, it could

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Speaker 2: mean something far worse than eleven that was on X.

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Speaker 2: Musk took to his platform on Tuesday said the president's

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Speaker 2: administration is importing voters and creating a national security threat.

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Speaker 2: Elon also tweeted out Clay America will fail if it

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Speaker 2: tries to absorb the world. That is why I am

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Speaker 2: banging the drums so much about this issue. I think

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Speaker 2: it is the most important issue in the country faces

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Speaker 2: right now. Donald Trump out there, this is cut eighteen.

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Speaker 2: He's out there telling everybody that there are going to

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Speaker 2: be and as we all, I think now the left,

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Speaker 2: the Democrats are realizing this is something they better take

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Speaker 2: seriously because Trump is way ahead. There are going to

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Speaker 2: be mass deportations of illegal aliens in this country.

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Speaker 3: Play eighteen.

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Speaker 8: Will you order mass deportations if you win the White House?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Day one, we have no choice, said, We'll start with

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Speaker 8: the bad ones, and you know who knows who they are?

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Speaker 6: Local police. Local police have.

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Speaker 8: To be given back their authority, and they have to

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Speaker 8: begin giving back their respect and immunity. We're going to

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Speaker 8: give them immunity, and they don't them by the first name,

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Speaker 8: the middle name in the last name, and they will

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Speaker 8: take them out, and they will we will get them out. Look,

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Speaker 8: this is not sustainable by any country, even if they

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Speaker 8: weren't as bad as they are. This is not sustainable

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Speaker 8: by any country.

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Speaker 2: That's true. I think that's an important point as well

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Speaker 2: with all this play. No other country would do this.

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Speaker 2: No other country on the planet would allow what is

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Speaker 2: happening to us to happen to them.

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Speaker 4: And remember, many of these people are going to have kids,

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Speaker 4: and those kids are going to become citizens. And that's

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Speaker 4: why I say there are two primary incentive structors. This

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Speaker 4: is where the conversation needs to go. Everything occurs in

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Speaker 4: life to a large extent based on the incentives that

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Speaker 4: you create. People respond to incentives. One is, thankfully, we

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Speaker 4: are a capitalist society, and our economy produces a massive

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Speaker 4: amount of jobs.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of people are coming to the United States is because

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Speaker 4: those jobs pay far more than the jobs if they

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Speaker 4: exist in their home countries. So the economic incentive is

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Speaker 4: almost impossible to erase. Now you could say, well, we

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Speaker 4: need to start finding companies that hire illegals, and there

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Speaker 4: need to be substantial consequences for that. All of those

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Speaker 4: things can be true, but the incentive structure of jobs

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Speaker 4: is a major driver.

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Speaker 1: The other one is we've got to end birthright citizenship

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Speaker 1: once and for all.

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Speaker 4: So building a wall to help to keep people from

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Speaker 4: being able to get in, having effective border security that matters.

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Speaker 4: But also we have to do away with birthright citizenship

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Speaker 4: because I think a lot fewer people would come here

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Speaker 4: if they weren't thinking, oh, I'm going to go there

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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna have a kid. And once you have

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Speaker 4: a kid that's an American citizen, your chances of ever

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Speaker 4: getting deported out of America collapse.

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Speaker 1: So the two incentive structures.

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Speaker 4: You have to address them if we want to truly

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Speaker 4: address this issue. And this is why I get disappointed

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Speaker 4: sometimes in the way that these conversations occur. For instance,

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Speaker 4: if you believe, as I think you and I both do,

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Speaker 4: and everybody out there, no matter where you are in

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Speaker 4: the country, that we have too much violent crime in America,

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Speaker 4: then you have to have a real conversation about who

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Speaker 4: commits violent crime. And the reality is over half of

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Speaker 4: all murders are committed by young black men. They represent

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Speaker 4: about three or four percent of the population. They commit

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Speaker 4: over half of all murders. If you are going to

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Speaker 4: stop and by the way, most of their victims are

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Speaker 4: young black men as well. If you are going to

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Speaker 4: stop violent crime in America, you would have to police

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Speaker 4: more aggressively young black men. That's the only way to

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Speaker 4: stop it. So when you have all these people out

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Speaker 4: there saying, oh, the criminal justice system is racist, look

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Speaker 4: at well, we arrest people who commit violent crime and

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Speaker 4: tend to put people in prison who commit violent crime.

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Speaker 4: And even the argument of well, look at all the

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Speaker 4: non violent offenders. I think this is really important too.

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Speaker 4: They're non violent offenders because they pled guilty to a

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Speaker 4: non violviolent crime to avoid getting on trial for a

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Speaker 4: violent crime. Nobody has the If we really want to

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Speaker 4: solve things, you have to look at the facts and

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Speaker 4: the data, and you have to analyze them. You have

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Speaker 4: to have rational adult conversations. We don't have a lot

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Speaker 4: of rational adult conversations in this country, and so that

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Speaker 4: is one of the things that super frustrates me about

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Speaker 4: our discourse. If you're going to address the border or

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Speaker 4: violent crime or any of these issues, you have to

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Speaker 4: actually analyze them and talk about them like adults, as

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Speaker 4: opposed to artificially circumscribing what's allowed to be said. And

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Speaker 4: you pointed out, I think it's important no other country

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Speaker 4: does this. There's no other country in the world that

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Speaker 4: has in the last four three and a half years

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Speaker 4: allowed eight million illegals to come into its country.

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Speaker 1: No one else in the world it would allow this

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Speaker 1: to happen.

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Speaker 2: Everyone knows that it's a fraud, and they're saying this

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Speaker 2: now out loud. I've been saying it's a fraud for

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Speaker 2: the whole time, but now even Democrats are admitting it.

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Speaker 2: And so instead of saying we're not going to allow

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Speaker 2: people to perpetuate the fraud, that what the Democrats are

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Speaker 2: trying to do is just move the blame around and

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Speaker 2: act like somehow this was just a bipartisan thing that happened,

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Speaker 2: and it's not necessarily the result of decisions that were

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Speaker 2: made by people like or by Joe Biden and those

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Speaker 2: around him.

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Speaker 3: I thought this was interesting too.

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Speaker 2: John Fetterman, who we have been I think rightly on

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Speaker 2: some issues praising on this show because I think he

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Speaker 2: is a sound of sound mind on the issue of

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Speaker 2: Israel and Hamas and on immigration. You know, he's in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: He's not up in this cycle, but he wants the

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Speaker 2: Pennsylvany I mean, he wants the Democrat running against who's

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Speaker 2: we just had him.

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Speaker 8: On the.

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Speaker 2: Who's running for Pennsylvania Republic Dave McCormick, thank you. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't want McCormick to win. So they've got to seem

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Speaker 2: re on the issue of immigration. And here is Fetterman

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Speaker 2: saying that he's willing to do a stronger immigration deal

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Speaker 2: than what was already even talked about in the Senate

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Speaker 2: play seventeen at.

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Speaker 7: Least I as a Democrat, you know, and am willing

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Speaker 7: and eager to go stronger than the border deal that

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Speaker 7: was here it might be actually appropriate given the circumstance

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Speaker 7: here at the border.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Fetterman keeps saying things that are sensible. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what to say other than we're just going

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Speaker 2: to keep calling it out because he's saying we need

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Speaker 2: something even stronger. Because here's what's interesting. There was this

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Speaker 2: crossover between Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders supporters. Yeah, everyone

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Speaker 2: remembers us for a little while on the issue of

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Speaker 2: immigration and workers. Because you even had Bernie Sanders going

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Speaker 2: out and saying, sometimes, forget about all the other comedy

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Speaker 2: stuff he says on this one issue, he understands. He

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Speaker 2: recognizes that if you have open borders, you are going

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Speaker 2: to hurt working class people or low income hourly wage

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Speaker 2: workers are going to bear the economic consequences of this

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Speaker 2: far more than anybody else. Trump was saying it, and

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Speaker 2: he was also speaking about it more in terms of

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Speaker 2: just national sovereignty and rule of law, but Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 2: was saying it as it pertains to workers. I think

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Speaker 2: someone like John Fetterman, who's really a you know, Bernie Sanders,

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Speaker 2: comes out of the Bernie Sanders mold, recognizes you're dumping

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Speaker 2: eight million people on the country. Who have low skills,

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Speaker 2: almost no ability to speak English, almost no educational background.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, by the numbers, based on what

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Speaker 2: we can see, Guess what that's going to mean. People

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Speaker 2: who rely on the state for services and people who

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Speaker 2: are trying to climb the economic ladder are going to

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Speaker 2: be pulled down.

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Speaker 3: This is what happens. It's blind demand, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: And I'm glad you brought that up because there was

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Speaker 4: a lot of people in New Hampshire and in Iowa.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll forget now in twenty.

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Speaker 4: Sixteen that we're deciding, hey, should I vote for Bernie

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Speaker 4: Sanders or Donald Trump in the primary, because there was

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Speaker 4: a massive desire for a disruptor, and you know before

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Speaker 4: they rigged the DNC, which I'm glad we finally got

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Speaker 4: those emails, But the DNC rigged the election in twenty

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Speaker 4: sixteen for Hillary Clinton. They did everything they could to

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Speaker 4: ensure that she was the nominee. But yes, I meant

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of people listening to us right now

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Speaker 4: in Iowa and New Hampshire, maybe even in other states too,

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Speaker 4: who weren't full on the Trump train yet in twenty

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Speaker 4: sixteen and may have been uncertain about even what primary

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Speaker 4: they were going to vote in. And this, to me

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Speaker 4: is another part of Biden's collapse. I hit you with

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Speaker 4: those Iowa numbers, Buck, but ten percent of Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: voters now are saying they're going to flip to Trump.

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Speaker 4: I never thought that that high of a percentage would flip.

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Speaker 4: That's according to the New York Times of Senapol that

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Speaker 4: they just came out with a lot of people bought

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Speaker 4: the Grandpa Joe argument and now they found out, you

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Speaker 4: know what, I was sold to Bill of goods.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just that Biden has collapsed.

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Speaker 4: It's that some people, maybe a lot of you listening

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Speaker 4: to us right now even were willing to buy into

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Speaker 4: Biden in twenty twenty and have seen the clarity and

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Speaker 4: the wrongness of their ways, and in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 4: are going to go back to Trump. I think that's

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Speaker 4: a big part of this story. Biden's collapse isn't just

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Speaker 4: hurting him with the turnout. There's actually a lot of

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Speaker 4: people flipping. Remember it would have only taken twenty thousand

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Speaker 4: people to flip in twenty twenty in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin,

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Speaker 4: and Trump would have been elected. Even with all the

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Speaker 4: shenanigans going on, I want to tell you right now,

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Speaker 4: the worst kept secret during IRS tax return season is

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Speaker 4: the number of bogus tax returns come in, all seeking

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Speaker 1: With the IRS is a mess.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 4: of you hanging out with us. We go down to

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Speaker 4: our buddy, Ryan Gerdusky, data guru of the voting universe.

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Speaker 4: He is down in Texas where they are having their

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Speaker 4: primary today. A lot of big different battles that are

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Speaker 4: taking place in the state of Texas in the Republican primary. Again,

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Speaker 4: encourage all of you to go vote. My wife Laura

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Speaker 4: is working. It's gotta be careful. The phrase working the

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Speaker 4: poll definitely sounds like a stripper and she is working

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Speaker 4: at a polling site. I don't think you're working the

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Speaker 4: poll there, Ryan, hopefully not anyway.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, that wouldn't be.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you'd get a lot of dollar bills.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you either, Buck, nor I would either.

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Speaker 4: But so Buck and I were just talking VP right

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Speaker 4: as to what Trump is going to do. And I

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Speaker 4: said yesterday on the show that I thought, if I

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Speaker 4: were betting right now, I would take Tim Scott that

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Speaker 4: Trump believes that he can make a run at blackmail

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Speaker 4: voters in a way that has not occurred before. Buck says,

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Speaker 4: not gonna happen. That there's there's Trump's belief, and there's

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Speaker 4: what's going to happen. Trump believe you sure, I'm saying

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Speaker 4: it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 2: It never happens. But Republicans are obsessed with talking about this. Ryan,

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Speaker 2: what do you say?

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Speaker 4: We both agree black women are not going to vote

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Speaker 4: for Trump and they're not moving much. But are black men,

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Speaker 4: in your opinion, based on the data persuadable? Do you

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Speaker 4: buy into the idea that Trump seems to have bought

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Speaker 4: into that he can get blackmail voting support twenty five percent?

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Speaker 4: I think he could get twenty five percent.

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Speaker 6: Okay, First of all, if you're in northern Texas, please

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Speaker 6: go for Brandon Gill on campaigny four.

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Speaker 2: Secondly, wait, that's Brandon Gill, that's my friend Danielle de Suz's.

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Speaker 6: Husband, Yes, Brandon gal Texas twenty six northern the Denton

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Speaker 6: County area. As far as the blackmail vote, so this

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Speaker 6: is what's happening with black voters. Older Black voters are

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Speaker 6: like ninety nine to one Democrat voters, so that is

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Speaker 6: not changing. But as that population begins aging and dying out,

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Speaker 6: younger Black voters were less connected to the Black Church especially,

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Speaker 6: are more independent. It went to the more Republican, but

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Speaker 6: the more independent. So you're seeing this gradual change. It's

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Speaker 6: not I mean, part of it is for Trump, but

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Speaker 6: not all of it's for Trump. Part of it is

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Speaker 6: just the changing demographics of that vote, especially for black

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Speaker 6: malt voters. Can you get twenty five percent of the

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Speaker 6: black mail vote? I don't know. I think that's a

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Speaker 6: little ambitious. You know, maybe he can. I think the

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Speaker 6: last time I got twelve or fifteen. Maybe he can

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Speaker 6: break twenty. That's probably at best because part of it

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Speaker 6: is just the demographic changes of younger Black people. Like

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Speaker 6: younger people period just don't vote that much. As far

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Speaker 6: as Vice President goes, I have on good authority, it's

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Speaker 6: not going to be Tim Scott, especially after Tim Scott

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Speaker 6: said that Mike Pence did everything right on January sixth.

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Speaker 6: I think he's on some Sunday show and I was

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Speaker 6: told on good authority the last few people really being

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Speaker 6: considered right now are Rubio, jd Vance, and Katie Britt.

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Speaker 2: I've been saying jd Vance all along. And the fact

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Speaker 2: that wait, Clay's face what. He's been the leader of

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Speaker 2: the Katie Britt for VP squad here on the radio

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Speaker 2: at least for a few weeks. And I will say this,

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Speaker 2: Trump tends to like pretty, and she's pretty, so that

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Speaker 2: helps Katy Brit.

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Speaker 6: Katie Britt is definitely pretty. She's good looking, She's really

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Speaker 6: energetic on the campaign trail. She's very very good. She

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Speaker 6: was very close to Mitch mccollins. She was late in

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Speaker 6: endorsing Trump. So it might not be her, but Trump,

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Speaker 6: I've heard from people in good Authoria. Trump actually is

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Speaker 6: a very good relations with her, likes her. He likes

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Speaker 6: him Scott too. But a part of it is an

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Speaker 6: issue of loyalty that he questions and he worries about.

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Speaker 6: And you know, there is definitely a deep conversation. I

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Speaker 6: wrote this on my substec, the National Popular Subtect. There

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Speaker 6: is a deep worry about both the relationship if he

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Speaker 6: wants to have somebody he likes, because he never didn't

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Speaker 6: dislike Mike Pence, but they were never bros. They were

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Speaker 6: never hanging out. They didn't exactly always like vibe great together.

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Speaker 6: That's part of it. But also he believes the Democrats

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Speaker 6: are going to try to prosecute him for the rest

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Speaker 6: of his life, regardless of if he does something, he

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Speaker 6: doesn't do something, so he wants them who if they're

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Speaker 6: the next Republican president, will just.

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Speaker 3: They've got his back?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they continue to protect to protect all these mind

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Speaker 4: talk at d vance, Rubio would kind of come out

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Speaker 4: of nowhere, right, That's what I want. What's would the

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Speaker 4: Rubio play on this? I would have never guessed that.

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Speaker 6: Well, he's probably the most prominent Latino in America right now.

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Speaker 6: It's not Ted Cruz. Ted CRUs I think still and

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Speaker 6: he took probably just endorsed Donald Trump. But Rubio has

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Speaker 6: definitely been talked about, and multiple people have told me

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Speaker 6: that Rubio was in the running and that now it's

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Speaker 6: really dwindling to the top two, top three, and he's

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Speaker 6: in the conversation. I don't know how series in the conversation.

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Speaker 6: Certainly JD. Van and Katie Brett are very high in

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Speaker 6: the conversation, and aesthetics matter and looks matter, and he

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Speaker 6: loves to sit there and say they came out of

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Speaker 6: Central casting. So they came out of central casting part

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Speaker 6: of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Ryan, we're being Ryan Gerdusky. Check out his

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Speaker 2: substack National Populist Newsletter. I'm a subscriber. I highly recommend

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Speaker 2: you do the same, Ryan, for Super Tuesday. What do

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Speaker 2: you look what matters today? Like, what are you looking

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Speaker 2: at in terms of these numbers? We'll have the data

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Speaker 2: for everybody tomorrow or the outcomes for everybody, Well.

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Speaker 3: What are you looking at?

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Speaker 2: And saying, well, that'll be an interesting indicator or that

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Speaker 2: will at least be something worth paying attention to, because

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Speaker 2: right now it feels like Nikki Haley's about to get

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Speaker 2: wiped out in fifteen states plus American Samoa.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, she might do well in Vermont, but

879
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Speaker 6: we'll wait and see. She didn't make issues. She's not

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Speaker 6: the first woman to ever win our Republican primary, so

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Speaker 6: she has that at least let's put on her head.

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Speaker 6: But the thing that we're looking forward to, I mean,

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Speaker 6: Trump did very well in the suburbs of Michigan surprisingly well.

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Speaker 6: I thought that Haley would probably break forty five percent

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Speaker 6: and a few of them, and she really didn't outside

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Speaker 6: of ann Arbor, which was surprising. So I'm going to

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Speaker 6: look at the Northern Virginia suburbs of DC to see

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Speaker 6: how they vote. It's a lot of government jobs, but

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Speaker 6: also the Richmond suburbs to see how they vote if

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Speaker 6: Trump's strong or not with them. I'm going to look

891
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Speaker 6: at to see in the Texas suburbs of Dallas, which

892
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Speaker 6: are trending blue every single solitary year they do. And

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Speaker 6: I'm also very importantly going to be looking at how

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Speaker 6: Hispanics vote in South Texas and in other Hispanic hubs

895
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Speaker 6: because Biden has been performing very badly with Hispanics in

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Speaker 6: the Democratic primaries, and that no one has really been

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Speaker 6: talking about. But turnout among the banks has not been

898
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Speaker 6: strong in support for Biden has been weaker overall among

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Speaker 6: Hispanics in the Democratic primary in the early States, even

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Speaker 6: in like New Hampshire, this is not very Hispanic, but

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Speaker 6: there's a few Hispanic precincts he performed worse in. So

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Speaker 6: those are really two things I'll be very very heavy

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Speaker 6: looking at what are the suburbs looking like and what

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Speaker 6: are the Hispanics in the Democratic primary you're looking like,

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Speaker 6: because those are two key constituencies that both menu to

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Speaker 6: do well with Ryan.

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Speaker 4: Do you buy into the fact that Trump is up

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Speaker 4: right now? I know we the last time we talked

909
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Speaker 4: to you, you said you would pick Trump if the

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Speaker 4: election were then I'm assuming you'd pick Trump if the

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Speaker 4: election were today instead of Super Tuesday. Biden's saying the

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Speaker 4: polls aren't accurate, but I've also seen behind the scenes

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Speaker 4: and again, and you always you never argue the polls

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Speaker 4: are are inaccurate if you're doing well, and that is

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Speaker 4: a general consensus that there seems to be a great

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Speaker 4: deal of fear in Georgia and Arizona. I even saw

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Speaker 4: a top Democrat officials a few of them say, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're kind of almost thinking about taking these states off

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Speaker 4: the board based on the numbers they're seeing, which would

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Speaker 4: mean Biden's only pathway is to, you know, get Wisconsin, Michigan,

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Speaker 4: and Pennsylvania again. But I wanted to ask you whether

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Speaker 4: you buy into that. And second part of that, Maine

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Speaker 4: is Maine in play? Is there a state that we

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Speaker 4: aren't talking about as a swing state Minnesota, Virginia. Is

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Speaker 4: there one that you could look at and say, hey,

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Speaker 4: maybe this one's in play. I think the seven or

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Speaker 4: eight that we talk about usually. Is there any other

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Speaker 4: state out there that's standing out to you?

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Speaker 6: So it's important to remember that poles are not predictors

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Speaker 6: of the futures. There are snapshots of the president, so

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Speaker 6: things could change. But in the last since New Year's

932
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Speaker 6: there have been forty four poles and five nationwide poles,

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Speaker 6: and Biden has only led in six of them. That

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Speaker 6: is truly not only unprecedented for Biden and any Republican

935
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Speaker 6: against Trump, but any Republican really going back to two

936
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Speaker 6: thousand a. Bush was not leading in many early polls

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Speaker 6: in two thousand and four when he won the national vote.

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Speaker 6: So and state polls are starting to reflect that. There's

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Speaker 6: the den Moine Register ple today, which is the best polster.

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Speaker 6: An Feldzer is the best poster in America. She is

941
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Speaker 6: very rarely wrong. She had Trump up plus seven in

942
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Speaker 6: both sixteen and twenty in Iowa, and he won by eight.

943
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Speaker 6: Today's pole came out he is up by fifteen. And

944
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Speaker 6: the way people vote is people voting clusters Iowa is

945
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Speaker 6: not moving to the right, and have Minnesota and Wisconsin

946
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Speaker 6: maybe move to the left. They're all moving to the

947
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Speaker 6: right together. And if Iowa is going from an R

948
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Speaker 6: plus seventh state to an R plus fifteen state, that

949
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Speaker 6: is a Republican plus two national environment, that is a

950
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Speaker 6: Trump plus two national environment. Things are very, very very bad.

951
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Speaker 6: I mean, I know Biden has a lot of money

952
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Speaker 6: in the bank. Is about two hundred five million dollars

953
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Speaker 6: what I understand for the fall, But when voters have

954
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Speaker 6: an opinion that is fixated the way that Obama was

955
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Speaker 6: able to create the narrative around Mitt Romney months before

956
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 6: people even voted, there's really no shaking that. I don't

957
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Speaker 6: know many people unless they radically changes in our country,

958
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Speaker 6: which could happen a terrorist attack or war or whatever.

959
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Speaker 6: I don't see how people's opinions of Bride are going

960
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 6: to change to being a competent, serious person. And I

961
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Speaker 6: just think the news cycles are getting worse for me.

962
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Speaker 6: He just gave a promotion to that woman who was

963
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Speaker 6: in charge of leaving Afghanistan. I mean, which is I

964
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 6: was ulver for leaving Afghanism, but the way they did

965
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 6: it was a disaster. He doesn't. There's no real noticing

966
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Speaker 6: how bad things are, and they're still if they did,

967
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 6: if they really cared, something would be done on the

968
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 6: border right now. And nothing is being done on the

969
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 6: border right now, and that is testament to why they

970
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Speaker 6: how they think that they're not changing direction. And that's

971
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 6: a very bad place when you're that far behind in

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Speaker 6: so many national poles.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Ryan, if we could try to

974
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: surmise the top advisors around Biden and the people at

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00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 2: the very top of the DNC hierarchy, if we could

976
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: be in their smoke filled, you know, back room understanding

977
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: what they think is going to turn this around or

978
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: what their plan is. Do you know, do you have

979
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: a sense of what it would be or do you

980
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: think that the plan right now is they don't have

981
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Speaker 2: one because the plans are failing so far.

982
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Speaker 6: Well. Their plan is that people are going to care

983
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 6: about democracy and think of January sixth and the election

984
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 6: is stolen. They even said so much yesterday in some

985
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 6: media report that no January sixth is going to get

986
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 6: us to election day victory. And with a certain voter demographic,

987
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 6: they are one hundred percent right. There are certain people

988
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 6: that think January six happened basically yesterday, and that democracy

989
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 6: and result. They're not wrong about that, but it is

990
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 6: a very luxury belief. It is a very bourgeois belief.

991
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 6: And as much as they can sit there and say that,

992
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 6: you know, the economy is doing so well, and in

993
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 6: some sectors it probably is, people are not feeling it

994
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 6: when they're going grocery shopping. Inflation is still on their mind.

995
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 6: Things that are not changing, and the border is becoming

996
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 6: a bigger and bigger issue. According to the latest poll

997
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 6: from I think it was the New York Times, it

998
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 6: was twenty percent and now say the border is their

999
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 6: number one issue, which is extremely high. It's higher than

1000
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 6: the economy. And that is not a great place. That

1001
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 6: was the Wall Street Journal rather there said that that

1002
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 6: is not a great place to be in when your

1003
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 6: biggest weakness of all polling is the number one issue.

1004
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 6: And we are early, they're already admitting there's six million

1005
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 6: more people. Are two million more people coming between now

1006
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 6: and election day as they come into our cities like

1007
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 6: Denver and New York, Boston, these places that are and

1008
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 6: those are not in swing states, but Philadelphia, those places

1009
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 6: are experiencing huge cuts their public sector health there if

1010
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 6: they're acping explosion of homelessness as these stories of the

1011
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 6: illegal alien and migrant crime keep coming up. There was

1012
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 6: like nine big stories in the last week alone. Venezuela

1013
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 6: allegedly emptied out their prisons to send their gang members here.

1014
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 6: That is only going to make things worse for him,

1015
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 6: and they seem not to even notice because they believe

1016
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 6: there are enough white suburbanites who care enough about January

1017
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 6: sixth to get them to election day. Maybe they're right,

1018
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 6: but there is no hard indication in any of the

1019
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 6: data showing that.

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Speaker 1: Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Do you buy it?

1022
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 4: I mentioned in a second ago quick hit here to

1023
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: finish with you, Maine, Maine. Right now, I know they

1024
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 4: divvy up their four electoral votes by congressional district. I

1025
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 4: think gets one for each and then two overall. Right now,

1026
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 4: they have Trump on the board, winning at least one

1027
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 4: of those districts and potentially winning the state.

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00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 6: Do you buy it if RFK is on the ballot?

1029
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 6: I think so. Maine is the state that Pero almost won.

1030
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 6: I think he lost Maine by one point back in

1031
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 6: ninety two, and he did very well in ninety six.

1032
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 6: Is a very independent thinking state. If they vote independence

1033
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 6: their senators, and Gus King is an independent former governor

1034
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 6: was an independent. It absolutely could be if rfk's on

1035
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 6: the ballot. I don't think he's got ballot access, yeh,

1036
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 6: but we'll have to wait and see first.

1037
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: Ryan, you kill it, we'll have you on quite a lot.

1038
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 4: Good luck one more time. The candidate you're working for,

1039
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 4: we'll let you give him at a poppy.

1040
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 6: Here text twenty six and the newsletters, the National popularst

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Speaker 1: Good stuff.

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Speaker 4: Ryan Gardowski, he's got good energy. He's working down in Dallas,

1044
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Speaker 4: working the poll It's impossible for me to say that

1045
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 4: without thinking I've been a strip club. But a lot

1046
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: of you out there working the polls. Maybe maybe you're

1047
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 4: a little bit tired. Maybe you woke up, don't have

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Speaker 4: the same energy that you used to. It's the middle

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Speaker 4: of the week.

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Speaker 1: You're starting to think.

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Speaker 4: Ah, I don't even know if I'm gonna make it

1052
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 4: to Friday. It's only Tuesday.

1053
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Speaker 1: It feels like it's Thursday already.

1054
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Speaker 4: Maybe you're gonna stay up late tonight watch some of

1055
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Speaker 4: and you just don't have the energy when you wake

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