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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome back to the Spirit Daughter Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Joe Interesting, and today I am sitting down with

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Speaker 1: the New York Times best selling author Marie Folio, the

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Speaker 1: author of Everything is Figure Outable, the founder of the

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Speaker 1: B School, and somebody who has built one of the

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Speaker 1: most recognizable brands in business and personal development. Today, we're

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Speaker 1: getting into her chart and discovering why she's so relieved

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Speaker 1: about ending her chiron return.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Marie.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we are going to dive into your chart today.

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Speaker 1: Have you had any needle chart readings?

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Speaker 2: Probably more than I can count. How great. I'm also

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Speaker 2: someone who feels like things get refreshed, like whether or

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Speaker 2: not that's true or I just forget, which is probably

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Speaker 2: the more likely thing. But you know, I'll like dip

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Speaker 2: in it. I kind of dance with it, if that

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Speaker 2: makes sense, Like I can get really into it and

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Speaker 2: then I forget for a few years. I'm like, oh wait,

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Speaker 2: it was my natal chart like that yeah thing, So

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Speaker 2: I love it. Okay, okay, great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also find that every year or five years,

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Speaker 1: I look back on my chart and I'm like, oh

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Speaker 1: that makes sense now, yeah, Like that didn't make sense

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Speaker 1: five years ago.

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Speaker 2: But now that makes sense. Still have you ever looked

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Speaker 2: at the information and gotten like a little like I

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Speaker 2: don't like what it's saying. Yes, you're just like can

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Speaker 2: I disagree? Yes? And then like a decade later, I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're right. Yeah, yeah, so I I like that might

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Speaker 2: or you could have been in history of this, like

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Speaker 2: if I see something, you know what I mean exactly,

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Speaker 2: I don't like you. I'm going to say that this

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Speaker 2: is a party favor, it's not real boom ignoring. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like that with my north note, which

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Speaker 1: is like where we're headed in life.

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Speaker 2: My north note has to be in Virgo. And I

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Speaker 2: was like, no, yeah, you disagreed. I was like, no way,

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Speaker 2: I'm not headed towards Virgo. And what did you like

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Speaker 2: about it? I don't know enough. This is your blove,

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Speaker 2: So like explain especially too. I don't know if every

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Speaker 2: one of your listeners, I mean, they're probably way deeper

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Speaker 2: than I am. So what does that mean in the

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Speaker 2: short sentence, so that we can for those of us

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Speaker 2: who are unschooled.

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Speaker 1: Well, our lunar nodes are essentially our life path.

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Speaker 2: I love them.

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Speaker 1: I talk about them all the time. We have a

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Speaker 1: north node of south node, and our south note is

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Speaker 1: like what we've come into this world knowing, and it's.

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Speaker 2: Kind of our comfort zone in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 2: That's where we go back to.

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Speaker 1: Your south node is Taurus, which is interesting because that's

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Speaker 1: your rising so we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's your rising sign.

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Speaker 1: But to have your rising sign and your seuth node

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Speaker 1: in the same sign creates a really interesting dynamic.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait to unback this with you, I guess. So, okay,

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Speaker 2: back to you and.

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Speaker 1: Your Virgo Like yeah, and so the north node is

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Speaker 1: where your head.

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Speaker 2: It's like what you're here to learn.

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Speaker 1: When you're integrating, yes and fun facts. We usually resist

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Speaker 1: it initially. It's not yeah, you're a north not a Scorpio,

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Speaker 1: which is like an interesting north node to have because

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Speaker 1: that's where you're headed. I'm headed towards Virgo, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I love Pisces. Like Pisces, I'm like, I just want

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Speaker 1: to stay in Pisces, like I want to be like

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Speaker 1: one with the universe and download universal wisdom all the time,

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Speaker 1: and like I don't want to do this like detail

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Speaker 1: perfectionist stuff in virgos. Like in my twenties, I was

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Speaker 1: like no, I'm not even paying attention to that, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to pretend that doesn't exist.

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Speaker 2: So you're just you were like this, no, no, like

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Speaker 2: la la la la la yeah yeah, and then lo

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Speaker 2: and behold.

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Speaker 1: After I started writing the workbooks for Spirit Daughter, I

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Speaker 1: and it was like a slam in the face. I

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Speaker 1: was writing in a CLIPS blog and I was like

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Speaker 1: talking about the notes and I was using my chart

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Speaker 1: as an example, as I often do, and my north

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Speaker 1: note happens to be in my eleventh house house community.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like writing this blog.

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Speaker 1: And I'm spell checking it and I'm making sure it's

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Speaker 1: SEO optimized and it fits in this like fifteen hundred

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Speaker 1: work and I'm like, oh shit, there's.

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Speaker 2: There's my virgo.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like and I'm writing about my virgo north no,

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Speaker 1: and I'm having this epiphany and I'm like, I'm here,

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like if we start turning into our

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Speaker 2: mothers and you're like, shit, when did that? My mother

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Speaker 2: happens to be a virgo? Oh so god, we are

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Speaker 2: And so there came the resistance.

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Speaker 1: I was like No, I'm not going to organize my

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Speaker 1: closet eighteen times like my mother, you know. And here

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Speaker 1: I am writing workbooks and having to fit everything in

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Speaker 1: and so I was like, here I am living my

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Speaker 2: Feel like a piece of that resistance was like if

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Speaker 2: it's not one thing, it's your mother, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, like you exactly. Rather than the virgo ness

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Speaker 2: of it, it almost had more shading of the mother

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Speaker 2: exactly exactly. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was more of a like I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: No, for all of us, we got we got stuff

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Speaker 2: to learn and navigate. Yeah, and yeah surrender to and yeah,

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Speaker 2: which I am.

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Speaker 1: Well, I will say when I looked at your chart,

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Speaker 1: one of my first thoughts, and I'll explain why, because

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Speaker 2: I was. I had an.

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Speaker 1: Epiphany with your chart, and I was like, oh, that's

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Speaker 1: why she likes to dance. Oh so it's like literally

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Speaker 1: in your chart, this makes me so happy. It's the

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Speaker 1: release valve to this like really interesting te square you have.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know much about protect We're

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Speaker 2: We're going to get into it. We're going to get

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Speaker 2: into it. So let's first talk about your son's in SAD.

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Speaker 1: So you have your son sign Sagittarius in your seventh

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Speaker 1: house and you have Neptune right next to it, and so.

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Speaker 2: This is the mark of a visionary.

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Speaker 1: This is the mark of somebody who has a huge

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Speaker 1: vision for their life. It's part of the core identity.

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Speaker 1: Neptune's vision. Son is your core identity and in your

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Speaker 1: help bring your big vision to life. Yes, And then

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Speaker 1: you pair that with your moon in Aquarius. Aquarius is

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Speaker 1: a very visionary sign. It sees the future. Your moon

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Speaker 1: is your emotional needs. So this is what fulfills you

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Speaker 1: in your tenth house house of career. And so you

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Speaker 1: we pair that with the son in Neptune in SAJ

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Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, you were born to do something

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Speaker 1: before anyone else in your career. And I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's why she had like online courses before there was

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love you because that's exactly how it feels.

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Speaker 2: You don't ask me. What I do was like how

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Speaker 2: far back do we want to go? And none of

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Speaker 2: this Like in the beginning in the early days, people

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Speaker 2: looked at me like I had nine heads.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly that. And that makes so much sense

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Speaker 1: because they're working together. You have your your son and

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Speaker 2: That's a sign of expansion.

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Speaker 1: So you're here to expand through your visions the collective

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Speaker 1: somebody who you see the future, and you need to

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Speaker 1: give it to others.

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Speaker 2: You need to create a community, and you need to give.

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Speaker 1: It to others before anybody else can actually even see

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Speaker 1: And because it's in your tenth house and we're dealing

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Speaker 1: with Moon and Aquarius here, it's priority of your career.

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Speaker 1: But it's also emotionally fulfilling to you, like you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say this because it's drastic, but you wouldn't be happy

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Speaker 1: really accurate, at least from a historical perspective, because in

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Speaker 1: a good jillion things, and I was such a failure

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Speaker 1: at them, like I couldn't my body started shutting down,

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Speaker 2: Make sense of it. And it wasn't until I started

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Speaker 2: you know you can work from home? Yeah, on the internet.

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Speaker 2: Whenever I was like, did COVID change your life? Like

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Speaker 2: with working from home, I'm like, bitch, I've been doing

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Speaker 2: that forever. Like I was like, my vision for my

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Speaker 2: because I'm also so I don't know if this is

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Speaker 2: but freedom is my number one value. And Aquarius, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: like being or going to the same office every day. Again,

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Speaker 2: dying a slow death, I was like, I'm in my

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Speaker 2: Because I can't do this And it wasn't even like

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Speaker 2: a mental thought. My body was rejecting it full on.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you have Aquarius at your mid heaven and

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Speaker 1: so that is on your tenth house cusp. That is

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Speaker 1: where we see the career, the mark of the career,

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Speaker 1: the mark of the life's work is right at the

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Speaker 1: mid heaven and then your moon is in there. So

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Speaker 1: that's your emotions, including your emotional body. And so again

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Speaker 1: fulfillment like what you need to feel fulfilled, what your

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Speaker 1: soul needs, what your emotions need, what you crave is

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Speaker 1: in part Aquarius, which is freedom. Yes, and you need freedom,

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Speaker 1: and that's where that all the box thinking comes. And

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Speaker 1: Aquarius is just so interesting because they see the rules, right,

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Speaker 1: They're ruled by both Saturn and you're on so Saturn

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Speaker 1: is that like rule. They see the rules and then

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Speaker 1: the Uranus comes in and says, okay, how can we

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Speaker 1: break these and that's part of your career is so like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I understand the rules. I understand the rules we're all

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Speaker 2: It's so funny because I feel like I also do

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Speaker 2: this somewhat in like every area of my life. Like

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Speaker 2: when I understand what the standards are or when I

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Speaker 2: understand what the kind of frameworks are, I'm just like,

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Speaker 2: that's some bullshit, like not in a disrespectful way to

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Speaker 2: whoever created it, but I'm like, there's another way to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And so how many gorgeous souls are finding

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Speaker 2: And the content the content is the content, and it's great,

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Speaker 1: And I think this also still speaks to that Aquarius

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Speaker 2: Or there's another I love what you said earlier too,

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Speaker 2: what I mean? And not beautiful ways to learn to

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00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 2: use these crafts and skills and abilities to communicate in

435
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: a way that leaves you and your audience or your

436
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 2: clients or customers feeling amazing and so goddamn grateful that

437
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 2: you exist. Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly.

438
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: And our community is so grateful for the content we

439
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: deliver and you know everything, And even when we're sending

440
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: out like emails that are selling products, I'm like, I

441
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 1: used to have this mantra that be like I'm not

442
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 1: selling gold sneakers.

443
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: Not that there's anything like the wrong with gold sneakers,

444
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 2: but like.

445
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm selling products that change people's lives. Yeah, And so

446
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: many people have come up to me like you who

447
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: are just like you changed my life, like I read

448
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: this thing or I did this workbook and changed my life. Yes,

449
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: and this is how and it's so amazing and I'm like,

450
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: it reinforces what I learned from you years ago, which

451
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: is like, Wow, if I never sent out that email

452
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: selling that thing, I wouldn't have changed this person's life. Yes,

453
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, and I would have been stealing from them.

454
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: Yes, And it's a really good it's also I think,

455
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: a wonderful kind of fertilizer. It's a wonderful amplifier, not

456
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: just for marketing, but also for the creation of any

457
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 2: new idea, ideas, possibilities, collaborations that you have, Like even

458
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: this conversation, there's been a project that I've I've had

459
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 2: I call it like it's almost like a side burner

460
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: slash back burner and my my intuition and my soul.

461
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: It's I am so grateful because it speaks so loudly,

462
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: like at times where it's it's not audible, like a

463
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 2: voice like you and I are hearing each other right now,

464
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 2: but it is one or two shades below that where

465
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: the words are very clear. I can see them, and

466
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 2: it's praises and like very clear directives that occur in

467
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: my mind and it's like not yet, like it's and

468
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: it's so gentle and it's never yelling or anything like that.

469
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking about one particular idea as we're having

470
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 2: this conversations, like oh, that means that's been marinating for

471
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 2: a while, and this conversation, thank you very much, is

472
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: affirming that because it's a little bit of a wild

473
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: not wild one, but it's like oh, like it's it's

474
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 2: a one that makes people's head like can she say that?

475
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: Can she do that? It makes me realize like, oh,

476
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be ripe soon, you know, ready to

477
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: share or you want to wait? No, one wait, because

478
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: you know in like little it's like a little baby

479
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: plant under the she under the ground. Yeah, and she

480
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: hasn't like poked around, yeah, and had like her full right,

481
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 2: she's not in the sun yet. But but I want

482
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 2: to just really thank you because you're you're giving me

483
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: such awesome affirmation. And it's like it's like soul fertilizer

484
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: to go like yeah, I keep watering you like yeah,

485
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: it on the simmer.

486
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah exactly. And some things need just a little attention, yes,

487
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: and they only need you to know about it. It's

488
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: like I'm really I'm one of those people and I'm

489
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: working on like a new idea. I don't tell anybody

490
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: good for you. So I'm like, I don't want your

491
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: perstructive I don't want your energy on it. I don't

492
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: want your criticism or thoughts like this like.

493
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: A baby giraffe, like the legs are wobbly, you know

494
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: what I mean, And you're going to protect your baby

495
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: and until she has enough strength to standing around. Yes, yeah, totally, totally.

496
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: So let's get to this to dancing.

497
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: As you're talking about dancing, so your moon and Aquarius

498
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: sits gently opposite your Saturn in Leo, and then on

499
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: the other side we've got a lot in Scorpio, and

500
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: so you've got some tension with all of this Scorpio,

501
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: the Leo, and the Aquarius. These are all fixed signs.

502
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: And so when I see that, that's called a T

503
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: square and we're in a fixed T square. And so

504
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: this is like some of the tension throughout your life

505
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: is like I want to transform, I have a commitment

506
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: to lead, I want freedom.

507
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: And you may even be.

508
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: Almost consumed by your visions that they like take part

509
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: of your life. And you go kind of like out

510
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere where like you're almost alone

511
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways because you've got these like

512
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: big visions, these big ideas, this commitment to eat, and

513
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: there could be some amazing things. There also can be

514
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: some tension in that where it's like, Okay, how do

515
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: you connect to your body? How do you connect to

516
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: the earth, how do you connect to just like having

517
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: dinner with people, like just being a human, right, like

518
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: a more.

519
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: Simple life, like a more simple life.

520
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: Exactly, how do you have kind of just like the

521
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: mundane and find the magic in the mundane?

522
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, So okay, that's in there.

523
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: So that's in there because there is like all this

524
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: big vision, but there's so much this big vision, it's like, okay,

525
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: how do we ground? And so I always look for

526
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: the release valve in a square because we just talked

527
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: about three points Scorpio Aquarius, leo, we need four to

528
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: actually make the square. So where's the release valve. The

529
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: release valve is in taris, where your rising sign is.

530
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: That's the body. So getting into your body, feeling embodied, dancing,

531
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: doing things in nature, like we were just talking about

532
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: plants doing things that connects you to the simplicity of

533
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: just breath.

534
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: And movement are what bring you out when you need.

535
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: To out of those big visions and into like, Okay,

536
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: we're humans and we're going to like just have like

537
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: a human existence.

538
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Physicality is probably one of the things that

539
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: brings me the most peace and joy, and not even

540
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: just dance, but like I was texting with a friend

541
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: of mine who's like, oh, let's get dinner. Oh wait,

542
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: let's do like what are you doing right now? Like,

543
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: let's do movement and then let's get dinner. And I

544
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 2: was like, well, that's like six or seven things, you

545
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I was like, would we like

546
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: to go to my favorite blotties? Do we want to

547
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 2: go lift really heavy weights? Do we want to go

548
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: do dance? Do you want to?

549
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: Like?

550
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: I have so many amazing places that I go. Yeah,

551
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 2: because the physical mess of life, whether it's in a

552
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: fitness or dance capacity or honestly I like moving heavy shit.

553
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 2: Like I am a very physical I love cooking, I

554
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: love gardening, I love fearing stuff out and just like

555
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: people like, no, you can't lift that, I'm like, watch me,

556
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: you know, not from trying to prove anything, but it

557
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: just feels good.

558
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, and you need that, yeah, or else you'll

559
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: kind of like float away until.

560
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: I think I go not only do I need it

561
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: or float away? I the amount of stress, the amount

562
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: of like anxiety, the amount of pressure that in the

563
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: past I've put on myself from being just there was

564
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: like painful, super super painful. Well, you get consumed by

565
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: the vision. I am consumed by not just the vision.

566
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: I got consumed. Not to cut you off, but it's

567
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: just consumed by the responsibility. Do you know what I mean?

568
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: All that? It's like the tentacles. I was like, ohh,

569
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: I've created quite a big monster, you know, and everybody

570
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 2: needs a lot from me. And so that in and

571
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: of itself can has historically you know what I mean, activation,

572
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: the creation, the maintenance, the keeping the vision alive and

573
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: keeping all of those bits of the machine going right

574
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: where there's no space or time for the mundane, which

575
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: I actually love.

576
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: Yes, and you need that, Yes, you need that so

577
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: that because it all feeds in with each other, so

578
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: that you can keep your commitment to your voice and

579
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: your leadership and you can feel emotionally fulfilled, breaking paradigms

580
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: and you can keep this like big vision and give

581
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: it to others, and you can nourish your offerings. Ask

582
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: somebody who disrupts patterns. You need the physical, you need

583
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: the mundane. Yes, you need times where you're just you're

584
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: not doing anything at all.

585
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: Totally. That was a really hard lesson for me to

586
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: understand because I think that my mind, in my mind,

587
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: there was almost this I don't know if it was

588
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: like a conditioned narrative from you know, all the goddamn

589
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: self help books I've read, you know what I mean?

590
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: Over the aids now, which is just like good, you know,

591
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: And there's that part of me which is very very true,

592
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: but it's not the whole part of me, do you

593
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: know what I mean? So it's like not looking at

594
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: the entire Oh who am I as a full being? Yes,

595
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: that's one part of my expression, but it's not the fullness.

596
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: And I think in more recent years I have so

597
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: found a new level of joy, a new level of expansion,

598
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: a new level of self trust, of creativity, often too,

599
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: like further depths of my intuition beyond what I knew existed,

600
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: which I was like pretty not confident in the arrogant way,

601
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: just really secure with because it's been with me for

602
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: so long, but recently the kind of less I do like,

603
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: the more spaciousness there is around me. It feels like

604
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: the stronger those elements have been common. I'm like, this

605
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: is fabulous.

606
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean have you had to like

607
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: really work with boundaries and like setting boundaries around time round?

608
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, immunity my team. I think it's less boundaries

609
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 2: for me per se, and we might just be like

610
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: dancing with semantics here, but it's really more about for

611
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: me my own expectations of how I need to show up,

612
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: not necessarily what other people are quote unquote either asking

613
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: or demanding of me. It's more like what am I

614
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: expecting of myself? And you know, almost like a punishing

615
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: pace where it's just like, oh, you got to get up,

616
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And it's and you will

617
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: get up at this time and then you're a new

618
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: and and like I looked back and I was like,

619
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: like this a lot. It's a lot. It's too much.

620
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: It's a lot. And they're too much self disciplined, correct

621
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: like o ding on self discipline. You know, yeah, sometimes

622
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: Jills is like an aside, but you know, as we

623
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: all as we all advance an age, as we get older,

624
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: you know, start going doctors and you know, with different things.

625
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: And so every time I go to a doctor and

626
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: they're like they start like asking me about something about, oh,

627
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: would you be able to do this or that, or

628
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: we don't want to overwhelm you, I'm like, bitch, that

629
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: is not my problem, right in terms of compliance or

630
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: you know, will you remember to take this. I'm like, yes,

631
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: discipline not my issue, you know what I mean. I

632
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: have so many other things that we could totally unback

633
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: and talk about it, but all that to say, yeah,

634
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: I think I owed ed on on discipline. Yeah I

635
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: did that too.

636
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm glad that I'm not doing it anymore.

637
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: And I'm like, Okay, I needed to go through that

638
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: phase and that was great and I was doing the

639
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: best I could. But I look back now and I'm

640
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: just like I've outgrown that, you know, like it was

641
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: like a container that was wonderful at that time. Yeah,

642
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: and I feel like I am a beautiful a live

643
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: tree that has outgrown a smaller container that needed that. Yes, yes, yeah,

644
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: I hear that.

645
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: Like in my twenty early thirties, I was like I'm

646
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: getting up every day I'm doing an hour I do.

647
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: I still do a positive meditation, but I don't do

648
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: an hour every day at six am. Yes, you know,

649
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Speaker 1: I'm going for a run or I'm going to an

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Speaker 1: hour of a strongly yoga. It was like two and

651
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Speaker 1: a half hours of meditation and yoga. And I had

652
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: this like such a strict regimen, like oh, too much

653
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Speaker 1: self discipline.

654
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: Yes, And then as.

655
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Speaker 1: I got older, I was like maybe not, maybe not, Yeah,

656
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Speaker 1: maybe I need to sleep in, Yeah, maybe I need

657
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Speaker 1: to catch up on some sleep. Maybe I just want

658
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Speaker 1: to get up and like have coffee and read a book.

659
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Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah, And I think it feels nice too. That

660
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 2: feels nice. And I think that's a really great key phrase,

661
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: like that feels nice too, because I think in different

662
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: stages and seasons of our lives, that ultra discipline that

663
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Speaker 2: it sounds like you and I have had and have experience,

664
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Speaker 2: and I'm sure many people listening right now have also

665
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: either had or maybe they're still having. Yeah, it's like

666
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: if that is is working for you, and it's giving

667
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: you this incredible structure and it's kind of creating levels

668
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: and skills and understandings that you didn't have before that,

669
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: it's like great, you don't have to lose it, yea.

670
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Speaker 2: And if a point comes where your soul maybe craving

671
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: less of that, don't beat yourself up exactly. Don't think

672
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: that you're losing your edge, right, don't think that you're slacking.

673
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: Don't think that you're not as strong, or that you're

674
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: growing weak. I would invite your listeners and viewers and

675
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: all of us to just consider, maybe you've outgrown that

676
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: particular container for now. For now, you might want to

677
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: pick it up at a different time. Should it feel joyful, attractive, useful,

678
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: You'll learn something, you'll grow fabulous. But what if there's

679
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Speaker 2: more that is available to you in a large context?

680
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, And now a quick word from our

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

683
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Speaker 1: And it's really interesting because I did beat myself up

684
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Speaker 1: when I like stopped getting up at six at course

685
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Speaker 1: like five, what happened to you?

686
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: Chill used to be say this, Oh my god, you

687
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Speaker 2: have it all together and now you've just fallen.

688
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Speaker 1: Upon Yeah, and I needed that And there was a

689
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Speaker 1: time in my life where I needed that container like

690
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Speaker 1: I surrounded me. I don't know what would have happened

691
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: to me if I didn't have those practices and that

692
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: self discipline to do those things. But now it's like

693
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: open this door to like just so much else and

694
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Speaker 1: even quick tools like now I teach more like do

695
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Speaker 1: this for ten minutes, like at lunch or before you

696
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: check emails. Like I'm much more into like let's regulate

697
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: your nervous system throughout the day.

698
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's not just do like two hours in the

699
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Speaker 2: morning and the morning and it's done. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so it opened up my perspective again about you know,

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Speaker 1: disrupting patterns. Yes, it opened up my perspective to like, oh,

702
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: maybe like there's things I can do throughout the day

703
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Speaker 1: that are like ten minutes, that are five minutes that

704
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Speaker 1: work with my lifestyle now that actually are more effective,

705
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Speaker 1: you know, like I need ten minutes from when I

706
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Speaker 1: you know, log off to like when I go inside

707
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Speaker 1: the house and deal with my kids. And like, so

708
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: I do like ten minutes you know, of something, and

709
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: it changes from day to day, you know, around four

710
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: or five o'clock. And that's what one of my practices.

711
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: But I would have never gotten there if I hadn't

712
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: been like, you know, what I can't do an hour

713
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Speaker 1: meditation examity.

714
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Speaker 2: Yes, and how great, Like it's the same data, do

715
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's the same information. Oh

716
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: this thing it used to work for me. That was

717
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: pretty rigid and pretty strict. Yeah. You know, it's like

718
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: we can take the self narrative like oh I'm not

719
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: as strong as I used to be, or I can't,

720
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: or you can say, oh wow, other things are delighting me.

721
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: Now maybe there's more that's available, you know. Yea, not

722
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Speaker 2: so long ago I had this. So I was back

723
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Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, so years ago. And actually when I

724
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Speaker 2: was living in Venice. I don't know if you know this.

725
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Speaker 2: So for about six years I would split my time

726
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Speaker 2: between New York City here where we are, and yeah,

727
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: I had a home in Venice in California, Okay, Yeah,

728
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Speaker 2: And so when I was there at twenty eighteen, I

729
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 2: was still I would spend the winter's there and I

730
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: went to do the TM training transcendental meditation, and I

731
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: really enjoyed it, and I kind of like did it

732
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Speaker 2: consistently for maybe a couple of years, and then I

733
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Speaker 2: fell off of it. It just like kind of faded

734
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Speaker 2: away and I did other forms of meditation and all

735
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Speaker 2: kinds of stuff, and it was I think maybe March

736
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: of this year that I got the download, Hey go

737
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: back to TAM and I was like, that's interesting, and

738
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Speaker 2: I had forgotten that with that, you know, there's like

739
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: lifetime what they call tune ups. And by the way,

740
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, there's so many forms of meditation.

741
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Speaker 2: I just happened to align with this and I was like, oh,

742
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: my soul told me, hey, you should probably go back

743
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Speaker 2: to it. So I did like a tune up, which

744
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, I had forgotten so

745
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: much of the original training and what I found fascinating

746
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: Jil and I've been doing it actually twice a day

747
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: since I had that little tune up. I won't really respond.

748
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Speaker 2: What I really really resonated with was the actual emphasis

749
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Speaker 2: on ease and joy, yes, and innocence and effortlessly like

750
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Speaker 2: you know. And I started watching these videos, you know,

751
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: they have their own app or whatever and the Maharashi

752
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: founder and again I'm a curious person, so I'm just

753
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: always watching things to learn, and I'm like, oh wow,

754
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: it's like videos from the seventies is like cool, and

755
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: they're holding these little microphones and Maharash's talking about like

756
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: you know, they were like, so, how do we know

757
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: if we're practicing correctly? You know in all these Americans

758
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: like so we're all so tight, you know what I mean,

759
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: and just like like we must have it perfect, like

760
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: give us this the steps and he's giggling and laughing

761
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: and was basically like, oh, if it's easiful, and I'm

762
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Speaker 2: again I'm doing a terrible impression, but that it was.

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Speaker 2: I found it so delightful. He was so playful. He's like,

764
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: if it's easy, you're doing it right. I love that,

765
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Speaker 2: And I was like I love that. I was like, wait,

766
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Speaker 2: I love that. That's it. That's kind of counted it

767
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: and everything that I've read or talked about or like wait,

768
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Speaker 2: if it's easy, I'm doing it, pay no game. I

769
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Speaker 2: was just yes. So I kept watching these videos because

770
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Speaker 2: I found my spirit so delighted yea by this practice

771
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: twice a day, and that the way I would know

772
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Speaker 2: I was doing it right is if it was easy

773
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Speaker 2: and light and then AnyWho. I just wanted to add

774
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Speaker 2: that in here because it's been so transformative for me.

775
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Speaker 2: Love that and to your point, like I wake up

776
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: at six am, you know, do your thing now. I'm like, oh,

777
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: I Like, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna do my meditation.

778
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Speaker 2: The other night, Josh and I went to the beach

779
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: and it was super windy. I was like, this wind

780
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: hurts my head, you guys. Him and my dog is like,

781
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: y'all hang out on the beach. I'm gonna go back

782
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: and to the truck and meditate. Pickup druck and like

783
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: it was just so not perfect, do you know what

784
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: I mean. I'm like just sitting and pay up track.

785
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, wow, that was easy. Yeah, Like who

786
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Speaker 2: am I? I know it's awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

787
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Speaker 1: I have those same moments where I'm just like I'm

788
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Speaker 1: gonna journal at my kitchen counter, you know, like or

789
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just sit down waiting for the tea to boil,

790
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna sit on my kitchen floor. I'm just

791
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: gonna meditate for three minutes while I'm waiting for like

792
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Speaker 1: the water to boil for my tea, like stuff like that.

793
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Speaker 2: It's so fun. I'm like, I'm not in my meditation

794
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: cushion with.

795
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Speaker 1: My crystals all your whole gleek and you know, alter

796
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Speaker 1: up there, Yeah exactly, which I have and I love,

797
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: and I teach and again, time and place, time and place.

798
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: But you know it's like for me, I feel like

799
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: sometimes sitting on my kitchen floor for three minutes, like

800
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Speaker 1: it's more effective than an hour in my meditation cushion

801
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: at six am, you know, or five am. Love it

802
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: because there was a time where I was like, I'm

803
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Speaker 1: going to get up at five am before my kids

804
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Speaker 1: get up and meditate.

805
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 2: And then I was like what am I doing? Like

806
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Speaker 2: what am I doing? I need to sleep. I've got

807
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: two boys, Like I'm sleep in totally, totally, And I

808
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: mean that's another thing too, that's like a blessing. I

809
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: think of getting older like my parents, and you know,

810
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: all the wonderful science and research and conversations that we're

811
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: all having now wrong longevity and you know, of course

812
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: bio hacking, you know, like that's a whole other thing.

813
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: But like the basics like yo, sleep sleep, If you

814
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 2: actually just sleep, you're getting like I don't know, I'm

815
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: just throwing this out there, but probably sixty to seventy

816
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 2: percent of everything that you your body, your soul, your brain,

817
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: everything needs to give yourself a foundation to perform and

818
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Speaker 2: be your best.

819
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: Yes, like sleep, dude, sleep sleep it Like most days

820
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: I sleep till like seven am. Yeah, which, like my

821
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: twenty five year old sel would like, what are you doing?

822
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: Like shame, shame, shame, shame.

823
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: And I went through like a Kunbillini yoga thing for

824
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: a while or it was like getting up at the Ambrosia.

825
00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: Hours form and what Yeah. Again, they're fun stories, like

826
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: we should all do it. I went to a retreat

827
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: like a meditation retreet a couple of years ago, and

828
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: that was the thing, and I was like, I got this,

829
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm like, god, guy, I'm

830
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: rolling out, don't know what the hell's gone. So they're

831
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: fun stories, but yeah, you know, unless again, unless your

832
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: body delights in that right And if your body does

833
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: and your should does, and you're like I'm doing cartwheels,

834
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Speaker 2: we will do We'll do pump pump, I will do

835
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Speaker 2: a high kick, a split, I will do a dance

836
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: for you. Keep going. Yeah, but if you're if that

837
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Speaker 2: doesn't feel right for you, it's like there are other feasibilities.

838
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Speaker 1: I had the same experience in the yoga scene in

839
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: La which talk about not easeful and not delightful, and

840
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: when you go back and you watch like iining our

841
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: yoga videos, and I had that same moment where I'm like, wait,

842
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: I don't need to be killing myself doing yeah and

843
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: stand every day, you know.

844
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: And because the yoga scene in.

845
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Speaker 1: La back then, which I think you probably were there for,

846
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, and like twenty ten kind of thing, it

847
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: was just like, Okay, we're gonna go and sweat as

848
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: much as we can and then we're gonna do crow

849
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: posts and every arm balance and a handstand.

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00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: No, it's a lot. And I was like I compiling

851
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: out to the point where it's just like I can't.

852
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: I can't do this. No, I can't do this right now.

853
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: In the city, there was a few weeks ago I

854
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: was like hunting for really great just like yoga studios. Yeah,

855
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: and I found so many hot yoga studios and I

856
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: was like, at this moment in my life, like I'm

857
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Speaker 2: an Italian, I have a lot of hair, and I'm

858
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: basically like, if you asked me to think too hard,

859
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start sweating. I was like, do not put

860
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: me in a hot yoga class right now. I will

861
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: punch someone. Not really, but that's the like the kind

862
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: of rage and anger that pops up to you know

863
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: what I mean, when I was like someone's like, let's

864
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: just crank it a little more, and like not for me,

865
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 2: it's like a hard pass now, Like I just made

866
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 2: a regular old, normal temperter yoga studio. I can supply

867
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: my own heat, thank you. Yeah. Yeah, And I love yoga.

868
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: But I got to that point where I was like,

869
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: let's make this easy. Yes, delightful, yes, and I want

870
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: to find some joy in it in moving my body

871
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: and the way that I want to move it, yes,

872
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: versus like trying to do this constantly punish.

873
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, the challenge is good, like I find like

874
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: on a fitness level, there's some there's like areas of

875
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: some classes or some practices like lifting. It's like, okay, great,

876
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: you know I'm careful and I know myself well enough

877
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: at this stage in life where I know how to

878
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: challenge and edge, so there's growth without injury, yes, you

879
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 2: know what I mean, and binding those places where it's

880
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: like yeah, heart is good sometimes not all the time.

881
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: Not all the time. It's like you need recovery, you

882
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: need rest, and you need variety. Yeah, you know. So

883
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 2: it's not like no pay, no gain twenty four seven th'

884
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: my god, you know, yeah, I know.

885
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: Now people are like, if you could have anything, what

886
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: would it be. I'm like sleep and a regulator nervous system.

887
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: Like that's all I want.

888
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: That's all I wants, a nervous system.

889
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: Because if I get enough sleep and my nervous system is.

890
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: Regulated, like like being good, you create anything like anything

891
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 1: or not or not and just happy like singing alive

892
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: in the sun, yes, and might feel a warmth and

893
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: be happy.

894
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, I think is highly underrated. Yeah,

895
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: sitting in the sun, just being yeah, you know, like

896
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: just hanging out. Yeah, and like being I've discovered these

897
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: new levels of joy and pleasure and aliveness and like

898
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: just these wells of gratitude have been popping up for

899
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: no reason, and particularly when I'm like doing the most

900
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: mundane things like you know, the chopping of the vegetables,

901
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: the taking the compost down to the basement.

902
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: That you know, this is your tourist rising speaking taris

903
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: is all about like just being, yes and just stillness,

904
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: present moment awash.

905
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: I am a tsunami of Taurus right now. That's what

906
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: it feels like.

907
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so you're rising into tourists that's the way

908
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: it works with the rising sign.

909
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: It's working.

910
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's working for you and just being And then

911
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: you're also, did you know you're at the end of

912
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: a Chiron return?

913
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: Do you explain this to me? Because I think I

914
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: know it intuitively, but I cannot wait to hear what

915
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: you're going to throw down on this.

916
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: So this is it happens once in our lifetime usually

917
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: ranked fifty and and I say it.

918
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: Thank God to this that it only happens once. A

919
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: shit is real? Am? I right? This is like it is?

920
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: It is so Chiron is my deepest wound in our chart.

921
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's where we have the most healing potential, yes, ma'am,

922
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: which sounds great, but we all know what a real

923
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: healing journey actually looks like.

924
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: Hell. And I was just going to say, can we

925
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: talk about like an absolute object fucking hell? Sorry, We're like,

926
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: you have the best opportunity to heal. It's like, can

927
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: I punch you in this? It's not you? But I

928
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: can not order the healing this year. I'd like the

929
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 2: no healing and no healing many please, I'm gluten free.

930
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: Can I be healing free? I give me exactly. I

931
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: just don't want that.

932
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: Yes, no, I don't have Chiron in aries at twenty

933
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: three degrees.

934
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: And so Kiron's been in.

935
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: Aries for like the last nine years because it stays.

936
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: Kiron's interesting, it stays in a sign for a different

937
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: length of time. And so you got an extra dose

938
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: because aries. It was in aries for a very long time,

939
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: like well it's about to enter tars. It'll only be

940
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: in Taris for seven years. It only goes it transits

941
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: Leo in like two years. But anyway, so it's been

942
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: in aries for quite some time. And because you're at

943
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: twenty three degrees, it's really like the last i'd say

944
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: three to four years, it's been like, well the yeah,

945
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: let's just call it Joe.

946
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: It's like yes, me'am, Yes, ma'am. Keep it coming.

947
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: And so Chiron in aries, like the wound is around

948
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: air aries theme, so identity being who you are, quoting

949
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: yourself first, prioritizing your needs.

950
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: This is in the twelfth house.

951
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: So this is can bring up like I don't want

952
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: to be seen or I was told again back to

953
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: that too much. I was told I was too much

954
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: as a kid, and like I suppressed some things and

955
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: what I love about chiron is the medicine, healing is

956
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: what you give to others. And so I looked at

957
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: this and I was like, oh, that's where her book

958
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: came from. Because Arias is like the warrior, and so

959
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: it's it's like, Okay, no matter what happens to me,

960
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: I can figure it out, and I can teach other

961
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: people how to take up space and to figure it

962
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: out and to trust their inner fier and trust their

963
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: life path. But over the last four years that's really

964
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: come to question for you absolutely where it's like, Okay,

965
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: who am I?

966
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: What is my life path?

967
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: What are my priorities? Know I prioritize myself. How do

968
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: I figure out my own life?

969
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: One hundred percent? And no, and if I may part

970
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: of what I feel like my experience has been was like,

971
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 2: oh that was my step one, if that makes any

972
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: kind of sense, Like absolutely that was. It was almost

973
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: like what we're talking about where it's an analogy. Even

974
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: though I don't play I'm not a gamer. I don't

975
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: play video games, but I did as a kid where

976
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: you play a video game and you need to have

977
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: certain skills in order to get to let's say level

978
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: three or four of the video game, right, and if

979
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,959
Speaker 2: you don't learn those skills, you can't get to level

980
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: three or four of the video game. Right. But then

981
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: once you get to level three or four of the

982
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 2: video game, it's that idea that what got you here

983
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: won't get you there. So then all of a sudden

984
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, cute tools, yeah, but they're not going

985
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: to work anymore. Yeah, like you know what I mean,

986
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: like all your sorting and all your stuff. It's like,

987
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: you've done this, You've mastered this. Now let's get ready

988
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: for levels four, five, and six exactly, you know, and

989
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, be a beginner's child again and

990
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: go like yeah. And so for me, ironically, the messages

991
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 2: that I kept getting over this past absolutely, without a doubt,

992
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: the most hellish time of my life I think that

993
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 2: I've ever had. Wow. But the message was you can't

994
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: figure it out wow, meaning like and and it wasn't

995
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 2: in contrast to that meaning like no, no, no, that got

996
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: you here? That was that still valid And for all

997
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: the people that haven't learned those tools yet, they need

998
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 2: those tools. However, now you're developing a whole new set

999
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: of tools that are outside of the range of what

1000
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: you already know, and you're going to have to learn surrender, trust,

1001
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: non forcing patients, like a whole bunch of other things

1002
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 2: that were not as strong of a muscle for me,

1003
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 2: if that makes sense.

1004
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, we'll be right back after a quick break.

1005
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: So you learn the other side of where your chiron

1006
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: is and so yeah, so chiron areas like you're just saying,

1007
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: swords right, this is the yes, and so for the

1008
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: first fifty years of your life you're like the warrior yes,

1009
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: and I'm going to figure it out and I can

1010
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 1: make it happen and yeah, and then the return comes

1011
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: and it makes you question everything. Yes, and here you

1012
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: are saying, oh, maybe I need different tools that aren't

1013
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: so warrior s correct, don't have so much, for lack

1014
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: of a better word, aggression around them, absolutely softer.

1015
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, no, And it was it has been

1016
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: really interesting because I was like, huh, you know what

1017
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: I mean, a bunch of different turns. It was like,

1018
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: you know, and it got me into such a place

1019
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: or it has had me in a place, and it

1020
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: does and I'm so interested. I want to hear the

1021
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: dates because it feels like something shifted and want to

1022
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 2: unpack that because it's distinctly different than the past couple

1023
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: of years have been, and I'm like, something feels very

1024
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 2: different for me than it has been. Yeah, but this

1025
00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: notion really of finding this sense of depth and okaaness intuition, trust,

1026
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: being in the unknown, allowing a certain like I've had

1027
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: a lot of themes and this is more metaphorical. I'm

1028
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 2: totally fine. But it's like a lot of deaths, just

1029
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: like feeling like death, darkness, void is almost necessary. I've

1030
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 2: given people this analogy and they're like, how are you doing.

1031
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, do you know anything about regenerative farming? I

1032
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: know I'm taking a left turn. I can give you

1033
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: that mutch totally Okay. So there's also just for anyone

1034
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: listening if you're interested in food and our planet and

1035
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: all this stuff. I don't know if it's kissed the

1036
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 2: ground or kiss the soil. It's a great documentary Kiss

1037
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,479
Speaker 2: the something and you'll find this doc But I remember

1038
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: when I watched it years ago. It's about regenerative farming

1039
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: and many other things, but it's this notion like, especially

1040
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: here and in our industrialized world, you know the way

1041
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 2: that we do stiff when in terms of farming and

1042
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: again I'm giving my very uneducation synopsis of this. But

1043
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 2: you keep going back to the same plot of land,

1044
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 2: planting the same crops over and over and over and

1045
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: over and over and over and over again. The soil

1046
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: gets dead, there's no nutrients. It is like you can't

1047
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: get more harvest out of it, and you basically kill it.

1048
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: And so, like so many parts of our world because

1049
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: of you know, like we must produce it. It has

1050
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 2: to be effective vision that strips the resources exactly. But

1051
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 2: some of the notion again this is my very very

1052
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: you know, minor understanding. It's like, if you actually give

1053
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: that field a chance to rest and you bring in

1054
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 2: animals and new microorganisms, it's like all of the nutrients

1055
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: go back in the soil. It feels itself, and then

1056
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: you can plant a crop and then you give it

1057
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: a break and then plant a different crop, and then

1058
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we have sustainability and we have

1059
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: beautiful nutrient dense foods, and the ecosystem, the animals and

1060
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: the microbe exactly, everything thrives, Everyone thrives, and it's like

1061
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: this beautiful thing that actually works. But you know, our

1062
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: human I'll call it for me, like the warrior.

1063
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: Like.

1064
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 2: So I've told people and like the wound, yes, warrior.

1065
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: Yes, and I've said I'm actually alone, I gotta do

1066
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: this like alone, yes.

1067
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: Yes, And so I've felt like I was like, I

1068
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: don't fully understand this, but on an intuitive level, I'm like,

1069
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: I my inner soil needs to be like, it needs

1070
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: to rest, it needs to regenerate, it needs all new nutrients,

1071
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: it needs all new things, and you cannot force it.

1072
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 2: I cannot force it. So like it's this act of

1073
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: incredible faith and surrender that I've been in for a

1074
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: while and it's like I don't know what's working, but

1075
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: I know it's working, if that makes any kind of sense.

1076
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because you're speaking Taris language, which is

1077
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: earth and interesting, and but you're actually talking about scorpio energy,

1078
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: which is your north notice in scorpio. And so the

1079
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: scorpio is about honoring the cycles.

1080
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: Of birth, death, rebirth, yes.

1081
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: And that everything goes in those cycles, and there's moments

1082
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: when things are growing, moments when you have to burn

1083
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: it down to the ground, and moments when you need

1084
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: to rest let it degenerate, moments when things will be reborn,

1085
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: and you have to trust that one cycle always leads

1086
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: to the next. Yes, and so you're really your life

1087
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: path is to learn that, and part of the Chiron

1088
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: return actually helps you get there, because Kirn return is

1089
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: all about like, Okay, you're almost fifty or you're fifty,

1090
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: what do you have to learn next?

1091
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: What do you have to heal?

1092
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: And for you with that areas, it's like I need

1093
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: to heal this like warrior, this, loneness, this like I

1094
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: have to figure it all out myself. This is part

1095
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: of my identity. This is who I am. I don't

1096
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: know who I am without this party. And that's Scorpio

1097
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: North note. It is like, let's try a different cycle. Yes,

1098
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: let's try and do something that alchemizes energy that understands

1099
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: this process and there's a trust and a surrender with

1100
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: the alchemy.

1101
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's for me too. It's like I was like, wow,

1102
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 2: what narratives were in there in terms of if I

1103
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: don't do it all myself, shit just gets sucked up. Yeah,

1104
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. If I'm not carrying it

1105
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: one hundred percent all the time, right, there will be

1106
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: it's just like there's hell to pay and then I

1107
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: have to clean that upright. So exactly. It was a

1108
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 2: survival pattern in many ways for my childhood. And then

1109
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: it's like that gas ran out. I was like, no.

1110
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: Muss, yeah, like and that's what happens in your Chiron, yes,

1111
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 1: which is ending.

1112
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: Oh thank god, you'll have a revisit. Wait wait what well?

1113
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: Because Chiron enters Tarists July June nineteenth, and then we'll

1114
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: be in Tars all summer and then we'll retrograde and

1115
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: head back to Aries for the last little did you

1116
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: really understand an integrate moment for anybody who has Chiron

1117
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: and Aries the fall and into next year is going

1118
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, we went through this journey, what

1119
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: did you learn?

1120
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so get ready for that. Wait you're staring me.

1121
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: Wait prep no, no, no, too fast, too fast, too fast,

1122
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: Jill and that's all about Jill Jill rope. Okay, wait no, seriously,

1123
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: I'm not shitting you, like because it's been I have

1124
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: felt like the roller coaster and I like, or I

1125
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: used to I like roller coasters and like I'm not.

1126
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: I'm not. Yeah, you know, pretty, I'm a pretty sturdy

1127
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: being and I've been like whoa, yeah, okay, tell that

1128
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 2: timeline to me again. I don't think anything.

1129
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: It's it's not the storm is over, like the big,

1130
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: big story, big storm is over, especially because you're at

1131
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: twenty three degrees.

1132
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: So now Chiron is like just going to kind of slightly.

1133
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: And so the retrograde period when it sort of re

1134
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: enters aries briefly, and this happens with many planets when

1135
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: they do this, it's just going to be like, Okay,

1136
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: what did you learn, Let's process it, let's reflect, and

1137
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: when's that time period that's going to be the fall

1138
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: And so it'll be a time of reflection on what

1139
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: did you learn over the last three to four years,

1140
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: judging where your cairon is. And so maybe you'll write something,

1141
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: maybe you'll journal, maybe you'll be inspired to do something

1142
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: a new project, plan some seeds. But it'll be a

1143
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: time of reflection and then it'll station direct and it

1144
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: will head to Tauris permanently in April twenty twenty seven,

1145
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 1: and then you're out, Oh my sofa.

1146
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: I feel like I need to like strap on my

1147
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: little oxygen tank and bring a bag of nuts, you

1148
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like, girl, get your snacks

1149
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 2: and you know you're a little blanky and just hang

1150
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: on until April, not that you know white not Yeah,

1151
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: but the store and the worst is over. The worst

1152
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: is over. Have you had your Chiron return?

1153
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: I have it. I'm heading into it, my Chiron's and Taurus.

1154
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm forty six, so I'm right. I'm sorry there, I'm sorry, Audio,

1155
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: I am. I am not a priest, but i am Catholic.

1156
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: And for those of you listening and not watching, I'm

1157
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: doing the sign of this. I'm doing the side of

1158
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: the cross, going like bless.

1159
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: You, and I'm mentally preparing for it. Yeah, and my

1160
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: husband also has this Chiron Taras, so we're going we're

1161
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: gonna go through our Chiron return together. Okay, so strap

1162
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: down ship in your house and yeah, yeah, it should

1163
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: be interesting, it should be interestedly last.

1164
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: Everyone different.

1165
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: It's it's it's all different. It's like I said, Chiron

1166
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: transits the sign. It's really interesting. Like most planets, like

1167
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: Jupiter is a sign for a year. You know, Chiron

1168
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: because of its elliptical and you know, it's not a planet,

1169
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: it's like an asteroid.

1170
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: Say it's a comment. It's both spotified as both.

1171
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: So it spends a long period in areas, spends like

1172
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: seven years in Tarus. Some planets are some signs at

1173
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: all mbien for like two or three years, so it's

1174
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: an interesting one.

1175
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 2: Okay, But once I go to Taurus, so let's say,

1176
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: and did we really dig into the north node because

1177
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: that you were like this is where we're going.

1178
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, your north nodes and Scorpio, and so does that

1179
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: mean that's that's very much about like understanding alma, understanding energy. Uh,

1180
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: and it's in your sixth house and understanding that you're

1181
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: an alchemist, that you alchem that's part of your offerings

1182
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: and your gifts. Yes, you're a brilliant marketer. Yes you

1183
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: understand funnels and copy and how to write and did

1184
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: all that and all that. But like, really you're an alchemist.

1185
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: Really you change people on an energetic level by your teaching,

1186
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: by your presence, by your Everything you do is actually

1187
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: changing people on an energy Just being you, like just

1188
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: sitting in a room with other people, not even saying

1189
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: anything can change people.

1190
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 2: Can I tell you something super trippy? Yeah? So I

1191
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 2: have a super dear friend who's also a forensic psychic medium,

1192
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: Like she is an extremely talented person and I've seen

1193
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 2: her workings and she has a book and she has

1194
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 2: another book coming out that's actually about alchemy. And she's like, Marie,

1195
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: this is basically your life story. I was like, wait what.

1196
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: And her and I we had a conversation once and

1197
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: I was asking her questions because that's what you do

1198
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: when your friends that and she had told me something

1199
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: that echoes what you just said, and I didn't believe her.

1200
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: So she's like I was talking with her. There was like,

1201
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, so I'm speaking And this was years ago.

1202
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 2: It was like it was kind of I don't know

1203
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: if it was before. No, I think I was in

1204
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: the midst of Chiron and she said, you actually don't

1205
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: have to say anything. I was like, wait what. I

1206
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 2: was like, and yeah, she's my friend. I was just like,

1207
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: they made you a lot of money. Like, no, I

1208
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: don't think they're just she's great hair. Okay, step off

1209
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 2: stage that Marie Porlio like, I don't think that it's

1210
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 2: gonna be okay. She's like, no, you have to trust me.

1211
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 2: I was like, I will listen to you. She's like

1212
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: there might come a time where she's like you, there's

1213
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 2: something that you have where it's actually your presence and

1214
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: your being exchanges people the most. And again I was

1215
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: like I love her, she cuckoo pants, Like that's that

1216
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 2: north none energy. You're like, no, So I only bring

1217
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: that up because you're you're saying almost nearly the same words,

1218
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: and we did not do a natal chart situation like

1219
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 2: that's not ye not her bad tricks. Okay, that's fascinating.

1220
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. You combine that with like the Taris rising when

1221
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: you were talking about that, like just being and then

1222
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: and then part of the flip side of this is

1223
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: yourself knows in taras, So you're actually letting go of

1224
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: the lower energies of Taris in this lifetime, which can

1225
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: lead to preoccupation with possessions or like how am I

1226
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: going to support myself? How am I going to make

1227
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: money physical tangible? And you're entering in this realm of

1228
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: the energetic or it's like, oh no, I actually am

1229
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: an energy to being. My resources are energy. My resources

1230
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: aren't physical possessions, not the number of my bank account.

1231
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: My ultimate resource is my energy and my ability to

1232
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: alcimize my own life and then use that as medicine

1233
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: to alchemize other people's lives. And maybe I'm just sitting

1234
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: in the room and that's all that needs to happen. Wow,

1235
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: that is wild, and so that's part of your life path.

1236
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: And because this is your you know, six house offerings

1237
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: like this is going to change. This next cycle of

1238
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: your life is going to change your offerings and your

1239
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: services to others. Yes, as you learn to embrace that.

1240
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: And maybe it means like not talking it. You know,

1241
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,479
Speaker 1: you're still going to talk, right, but maybe it means

1242
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: embracing that like oh, fewer words, fewer things. Maybe it's

1243
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: movement instead of talking. You know, maybe it's teaching people

1244
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: how to move and alcimize their energy or understanding that

1245
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: gift of movement versus just speaking or teaching through courses

1246
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: or all the brilliant things you've done or through copy.

1247
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: You know, there's an alchemy here, there's a transformation. There's

1248
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: also a trust and a surrender. Like Scorpio of all

1249
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: the signs asks us to trust the process. And the

1250
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: process is the phoenix rising, which starts with the buyer

1251
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: and the burning everything down and then rising. Yeah, no totally,

1252
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: and so like embracing that, okay, like I'm going to

1253
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: be the phoenix rising.

1254
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 2: And but in order to do that, we have to

1255
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: I have to let go.

1256
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: I don't have to trust the rising process, ie to

1257
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: trust my phoenix process.

1258
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. That's it's so awesome, and it's honestly

1259
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: so exciting because I've had these inner nudges and inner

1260
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 2: I call them directives, like kind of where we started

1261
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: a conversation earlier, where it's like phrases, images, possibilities. They're

1262
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 2: very clear, and sometimes like I trust them, they don't

1263
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: make sense, you know, they don't make sense oftentimes on paper,

1264
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: or they don't make sense in the context of the present.

1265
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 2: But I was like, uh, okay, and everything you're saying

1266
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 2: now feels very aligned contextually.

1267
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Scorpio is very intuitive. Yeah, so it's like

1268
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: that intuition is going to speak really loudly.

1269
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: I didn't touch on your mercury.

1270
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: Your mercury's in the eighth house in sach and so

1271
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: your mercury can expand borders and expand horizons as that's Statittarius,

1272
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: but in the eighth house it brings on this transformation

1273
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: as well. And so yes, your words transform, but also

1274
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: your writing transforms you. And so journaling or just writing

1275
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: things down or just like the words or like oh

1276
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: this word popped in my head. I don't understand what

1277
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: that means yet, but I'm going to write that down.

1278
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to process that later. Like that's going to

1279
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: transform your energy and help with this whole process. Yeah,

1280
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: really stepping in, you're stepping into this time of being

1281
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: an alchemist. Yeah, and integrating this sense of being, the

1282
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: sense of movement. Still saying, dedicated to your life path,

1283
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: which is, you know, our life path never changes. You're

1284
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: here to provide bigger visions for other people and that's

1285
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: what your soul crazed. You have a soul contract around that.

1286
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: But that's going to change, right, vehicle changes, the vehicle changes,

1287
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: and the delivery.

1288
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: Changes, and the kind of expression of it.

1289
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, your purpose and your life path and

1290
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: like the overarching is always going to be what it is,

1291
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: but how you execute that purpose is going to change.

1292
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: And it's getting a major upgrade right now, ushered in

1293
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: by your chiron return, which is never pretty.

1294
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 2: I never I love that, and I will tell you this,

1295
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 2: it's like, should you ever like I feel like there

1296
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: were so many times over the past couple of years

1297
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 2: where you know, thank God, I have so many I

1298
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 2: have great, great, great friends, people that I can trust,

1299
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 2: you know, just be down in there with you. But

1300
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: I'm just saying in advanced because I'm a little head

1301
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 2: on your on the curve. I'll call you, oh, get

1302
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 2: real real, and you're just like I need somebody who understands.

1303
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: It's like happy to listen. Okay, great, thank you, thank

1304
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: you for that.

1305
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like prepping myself because it's just it shines

1306
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: a spotlight and Chiron and tars is very different than

1307
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: Kiren and Ares, but it's like going to be a

1308
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: spotlight on like my worth and how I ask for

1309
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,919
Speaker 1: my worth And that's what Kiron and Tarus is going

1310
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: anybody going through their Chiron Return and taris it's going

1311
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: to be a spotlight on do you ask for your worth?

1312
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: And how is your worthiness showing up? And what are

1313
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: your wounds around worthiness? And let's get let's talk about

1314
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: your mom again, because we're not done talking about her

1315
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: or only about you know, twenty five therapy secsions away

1316
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: figuring that out.

1317
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 2: But me and my best friend Chris, it's like one

1318
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 2: of our favorite phrases. But like if it's not one

1319
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 2: thing at your mother.

1320
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: Exactly, yeah exactly, it's like it's true, Oh my goodness, yeah.

1321
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 2: Again, I wish you strength and life, thank you and

1322
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 2: thank you your favorite snacks and comfy blankies and tissues

1323
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 2: and tears and like beauty moments and then but you

1324
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 2: you're so wise enough to know that it has an arc.

1325
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 2: And I think some of the darkest for anyone either

1326
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 2: going through it, maybe going through it listening right now.

1327
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 2: I know, at least in my own head, I'm like,

1328
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 2: is this shit gonna last forever? Like, do you know

1329
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like there was that the darkness when yeah,

1330
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: my resilience was just really down and I'm like, dude,

1331
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 2: I'm super strong, but i don't know if I could

1332
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 2: take one more hit, like this is so much. Much

1333
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 2: of my stuff was also around family, Like I had

1334
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 2: a lot, a lot of that stuff to deal with

1335
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 2: with family that was super heavy and out of my control,

1336
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, just stuff I had to

1337
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: rise to. But I remember sometimes going like God, like

1338
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 2: it's been a minute, Yeah is it? And I remember

1339
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 2: saying it, Josh, my man, we've been together like twenty

1340
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 2: three years. He's like, I promise you, this isn't gonna last.

1341
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. I don't know, dude, if

1342
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 2: this is the new normal.

1343
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: Wait what oh my Statoo says this too shall pass,

1344
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 1: say permanent reminder, then nothing is forever.

1345
01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 2: Yes, we all need to remember that, and we all

1346
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 2: need Jill to tell us, like specifically how many years

1347
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 2: it's going to be, so you could just yeah, yeah, yeah.

1348
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 2: It's usually around three or four.

1349
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: It depends on what's signings in and where, Like your

1350
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,440
Speaker 1: kiron's at twenty three degrees.

1351
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 2: So mine was a little longer.

1352
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: It will know. It was at the end of chiron

1353
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: and areas, which was like instead of being like, you know,

1354
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: happening eight years ago, it was like the last three

1355
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: or four years. If your kiron was at like two

1356
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: degrees areas, it would have been like what happened like

1357
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: seven eight years ago? You know, yeah no, but because

1358
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: yours is more the end of areas, it would have

1359
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: been and like chiron retrogrades, so there was probably a

1360
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: moment where it was going over your natal chiron and

1361
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: that's what was like like a record scratching time, which is,

1362
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, but you're almost out, so that's the good news.

1363
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, you made it through the storm. Byron, a

1364
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 2: big fan of Handmaid's Tale and Testaments. I'm like, praise

1365
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 2: be made the Lord open.

1366
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, very good Jesus. Yes, yeah, do

1367
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: you have any other questions before we anything about real

1368
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: estate in there? Real estate in there, that's whether it's

1369
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: requisitions or releases.

1370
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 2: I found it interesting. Fourth house.

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01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you've got you do. Yes, yes, Oh there's

1372
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: an answer, a very clear answer.

1373
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,879
Speaker 2: Expansion. So Jupiter is about to enter Leo, which.

1374
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: Is going to be like my favorite transit ever for

1375
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: many reasons. But anybody who listens to the podcast knows

1376
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 1: why I love Jupiter and Leo.

1377
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 2: But Jupiter will enter Leo.

1378
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: It's at the end of June. So the airing of

1379
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: this podcast is in Leo, and it will translate your

1380
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: fourth house. Your fourth house is the house of the home,

1381
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: and so it will expand. So your home's about to

1382
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 1: get a glow up. And so this is like expanded home.

1383
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 1: You might buy a new home, you might buy more

1384
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: homes like so we're going to see expansion in your

1385
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:02,799
Speaker 1: home zone.

1386
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, thank you for that.

1387
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: Yes and so and also tying in the energetics. So

1388
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 1: if you go into a home or you're thinking about

1389
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 1: expanding your home or buying another home, expanding the number

1390
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: of homes. So, however, we want to dice this, Does

1391
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: it expand you?

1392
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 2: Yes?

1393
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: And so that's the question, like if you're walking into

1394
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 1: a home or are you talking to an architect or

1395
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: and that's the question, does do I feel expansive here? Yes?

1396
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: Does my energy feel expansive? So note on that. I

1397
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 2: feel like I have been really really good on that

1398
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 2: in my kind of real estate journey. By the way,

1399
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 2: I love real estate. I love I just love interiors.

1400
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 2: I love space. I love beauty and creating comfort and

1401
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 2: just all the different things. And that's one thing I

1402
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: can tell you. I have never purchased or renovated or

1403
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 2: done anything or when I walk into a space, I

1404
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: note instantly whether or not there is a feeling. I

1405
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 2: call it. It's like a gasp. I feel a gasp,

1406
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 2: but like that, and it's like a take a breath

1407
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 2: your way, but take your breath away moment. And it

1408
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be like it's perfectly renovated, like the

1409
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 2: place that I have a couple of places actually like

1410
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 2: they were cute, but it was there was a vibe.

1411
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: There's a vibe, you know what I mean. I feel

1412
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 2: there's an energy there. Yes, And I was like, oh,

1413
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: this is me and it's not necessarily about size ever,

1414
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 2: because I tend to be a smaller home person. That

1415
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 2: it is about like joy and magic, like does this

1416
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 2: place have soul? But I've been looking for a place

1417
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 2: for like probably seven eight years, and I'm like, this

1418
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 2: is weird because most people can find things, and thankfully

1419
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,719
Speaker 2: I have friends and they're like no, no, no, you're a patient,

1420
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 2: you know.

1421
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was curious about that. Yeah, you might

1422
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 1: even find something with like an expansive view. Yeah, so

1423
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: maybe it's like a smaller place, but like the yes, yes, yes, yes,

1424
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: yes yes, and that will expand you interesting. Yeah, Okay,

1425
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: bring in that because sad you know, we're going back

1426
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: to that core sun sign Sagittarius once expansion as well,

1427
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: and so expanded perspectives.

1428
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you might find that in a home. Okay.

1429
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 2: And then anything I had that, I had a great

1430
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 2: piece of news come in. I've talked about this in

1431
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 2: my podcast. But years ago, I had the intuition to

1432
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 2: work on my Italian citizenship, which this is back in

1433
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 2: twenty one, and I got an email recently that was like, congratulations,

1434
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 2: you're now recognized the Italian So I don't have my passport.

1435
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: Email, Yeah, for your homes. I don't know who knows,

1436
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm thinking. Let's connect those dots.

1437
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would prefer probably not to own

1438
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 2: something in another country right now in my in my life,

1439
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 2: I like it feels good.

1440
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 1: If it feels good that I give you the amazing

1441
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: come on, the Tyrannian Sea and me are like best friends.

1442
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 2: I love the Tyrannian State. Okay, good to know.

1443
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah you have. I will look at the ninth

1444
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: pounds for that. That's like the house kind of like

1445
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: travel and international boarders, teaching, publishing. Also, you've got Capricorn there,

1446
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: and so a lot of your discipline and kind of

1447
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: like worth at is in your ninth house. And so

1448
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: you may find yourself like going to Italy and being

1449
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: like I'm going to I'm going to write a book here,

1450
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to do something that some kind of discipline,

1451
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: but in the good way, in the softer version of discipline.

1452
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 2: Yes, might be in another country, okay, Lloyd, Yeah, yeah,

1453
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 2: anything else coming up. Let's say like in the next

1454
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: six to nine months that you're like, girl, yeah, strap

1455
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 2: yourself in, watch out for this. Yeah.

1456
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 1: So the nodes are about to enter the end of July,

1457
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 1: we have the notes are switching signs. North node, where

1458
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: we're headed as a collective, is going into Aquarius, and

1459
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: that will eventually it's an eighteen month transit. The end

1460
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: of the eighteen months, so we're talking about next summer,

1461
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 1: it will cross your mid heaven. And so in the

1462
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,480
Speaker 1: north node crosses your mid heaven, this is an Aquarius.

1463
01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: That's when you're going to feel like, Okay, I'm ready

1464
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: be more visible. I'm ready to put out some new

1465
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: thing offering. That is my how I want to be

1466
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: known in my life's work.

1467
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to focus actually.

1468
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: More on my life's work in my legacy, yeah, versus

1469
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: just career. Like a lot of times our career is interwoven,

1470
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: which I think yours is. But it sounds like you're

1471
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: kind of creating a new legacy. That's going to be

1472
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 1: the time to bring it out. So we're talking about

1473
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: mid twenty twenty seven to the end of twenty twenty seven.

1474
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: Love Yeah, I love this, Okay, cool, And that's when

1475
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: that north note will cross from mid Heaven.

1476
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 2: And then the fall was like, hey, we're going to

1477
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: process lessons from the escapes. Yes, thats just go spend

1478
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: some time in Italy. Yeah something, do you know what

1479
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 2: I was actually planning, potentially a trip to Europe in

1480
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 2: the fall. Yeah, so it might be a nice time

1481
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 2: to reflect. Yes, yes, yes, okay, I agree. We support

1482
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: that decision. Oh, thank goodness, I got the chill last day,

1483
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 2: I got the spiritual I love it.

1484
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: You are so good. Thank you so much. Coming on

1485
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: such an honor. It's not such a pleasure. Yes, I

1486
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 1: love your chart and it's just like spells, this beautiful

1487
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,759
Speaker 1: story of who you are and where you're headed.

1488
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 2: And I can't wait.

1489
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: And if you need me to help you pick along change,

1490
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: Oh are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna have our little textis going

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Speaker 2: so yeah, I said, I'm well, yeah, I'm excited. I

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Speaker 2: can't wait to see what you do next. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: even if it's just sitting in a room. Oh, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna be if you comes with me. Well, thank you again.

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Speaker 2: It's been amazing. Thank you. Oh and tell everybody where

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Speaker 2: to find you. Oh at Marie Folio and all of

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Speaker 2: the socials at Marie Fourlio on YouTube. We have the

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Speaker 2: Marie Folio Podcast. Everything is figuratable. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: the cameras catch that, but that it really is a

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Speaker 2: great book with tools that are incredible. We'll put all

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Speaker 2: this in the show notes as well so everybody can

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Speaker 2: find it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all right, thank you, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for listening today. I hope this episode sparks something within you,

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Speaker 1: maybe a new way of seeing yourself, or a question

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Speaker 1: where it's sitting with, or maybe it just helped you

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Speaker 1: remember your power. And if this episode resonated, I'd love

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Speaker 2: A cosmic download.

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Speaker 1: resources are available at spiritdaughter dot com. Until next time,

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Speaker 1: trust your timing, trust yourself, honor your path, and remember

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Speaker 1: the stars don't dictate your future, they illuminate it. See

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Speaker 1: you soon, you see