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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love a penultimate NFL

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Speaker 1: Holiday week.

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Speaker 2: I just love the word penultimate.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio

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Speaker 1: with my regular preview buddies Jordan Rodrieg and Patrick Claybond.

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Speaker 2: Not the end of the road, but it's pretty damn place.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's like you said, the penultimate, which you know,

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Speaker 3: the penultimate step and a jump. All these things are

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Speaker 3: very important, and so people questions.

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Speaker 4: Thinking of all the pens have stolen from Greg over

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Speaker 4: the years.

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Speaker 2: You know, where is the one that you stole on Saturdays.

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Speaker 1: I mean that pen came all the way from Narita

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Speaker 1: Airport in in Tokyo, Japan, you know, to bring it

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Speaker 1: back just so you could steal it.

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Speaker 2: Yu chew on it.

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Speaker 1: Disgusting, you know, it's not disgusting my attitude about this

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Speaker 1: week seventeen Slate for a minute. You know, I did

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Speaker 1: a little complaint at the end of the recap show

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Speaker 1: of like so much is decided. It's true that the

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Speaker 1: in the hunt graphic is more decided than normal, and

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Speaker 1: with the Colts losing on Monday Night, that clinched a

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Speaker 1: playoff spot for three more teams in the AFC, the Jags,

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Speaker 1: the Bills, and who am I forgetting here? Come on, Chargers.

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Speaker 1: And that's one thing. But then again, we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of matchups in the final two weeks of two

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Speaker 1: playoff teams going against each other. So it's essentially like

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Speaker 1: a playoff preview. Good on good and I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to those.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And let's start with a couple of those playoff

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Speaker 3: contenders in the AFC, the Houston Texans on the road

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Speaker 3: Saturday on NFL Network where we care about each other

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Speaker 3: and football. Rich Eisen and Kurt warn are there. The

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Speaker 3: Chargers are favored by two and a half. Greg Rosenthalt

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Speaker 3: over Unders thirty nine and a half. Chargers, get this

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Speaker 3: one at home.

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Speaker 2: Man, I got to make a pick in this game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you do.

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Speaker 2: I think I'll probably take.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers and they won't feel good about it. They've

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Speaker 1: just got something a little extra both these teams do,

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. And I should have mentioned we're putting ourselves

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Speaker 1: out of clock here because we like to honk on

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Speaker 1: this show. No, we like to honk, and we're not

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Speaker 1: doing the thing where we're splitting up the games.

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Speaker 2: It's a holiday week, it's all in one show.

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Speaker 1: Enough about that seven out of eight for the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: six straight for the Texans, And the obvious solution that

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and Jim Harbaugh have to come up with

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Speaker 1: is how can we possibly get Justin Herbert enough time

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Speaker 1: they've been doing it all year to some degree in

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Speaker 1: that maybe they're catching the Texans defense at the right time.

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Speaker 1: I hesitate to make too much of a trend, but

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Speaker 1: the last two weeks against the Cardinals and the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: they've been more good than great or okay than great,

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Speaker 1: and even the pass rush has just been a little

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Speaker 1: bit down. But maybe they're also just a team that

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Speaker 1: gets up for big games. They seem like one of

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Speaker 6: This was forewarn yes a couple of weeks ago, because

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Speaker 6: of the top seven defenses in the NFL, the Houston

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Speaker 6: Texans actually were the one of those groups that were

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Speaker 6: most succeptible, susceptible to the explosive play at that time.

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Speaker 6: And when you go deeper into a season and a

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Speaker 6: joy to watch in every single phase, does have a

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Speaker 6: little bit of that creeping in, especially near the end

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Speaker 6: of the season. It's tighten up time for the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 6: But they are like a little bit of susceptible, which

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Speaker 6: I can never say the first time correctly to the

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Speaker 6: explosive play. The Chargers are able to do this in

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Speaker 6: the passing game as long as Justin Herbert can actually

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Speaker 3: And that's the caveat, that's the top caveat where the

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Speaker 3: Chargers offense hasn't necessarily looked great. And then they get

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Speaker 3: making one hand catches. The quarterback is having to play

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Speaker 3: but but still to go through, uh, what they what

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Speaker 3: I know it's been a couple of bad weeks. I

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Speaker 3: don't necessarily believe in Trapp.

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Speaker 2: Not even that bad.

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Speaker 3: I don't even think like it. It's the Raiders they

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Speaker 3: got They got done up by the Raiders in Week sixteen, Like, oh,

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Speaker 3: well they still won the game. Yeah, so I'm going

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Speaker 1: I'm really curious because this is if you want, you

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Speaker 1: don't have to. It's ah. We do it on Game

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Speaker 1: Debut every week. Check us out. Yeah, Patrick Claybon winning

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Speaker 1: the Game Debut picks on NFL Network. I like it

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Speaker 1: when when it's good on good sometime and we'll have

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Speaker 1: that matchup in terms of sides of the ball when

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Speaker 1: it's the weakness of the Chargers their offense, although they

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Speaker 1: do have the skill position players to maybe make those

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Speaker 1: big plays. And then it's the bad side of Houston,

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Speaker 1: which took a step back last week, which is their offense,

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Speaker 1: even when they're improving against Jesse Minter, who has been

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Speaker 1: mixing up his coverages, mixing up a little more pressure

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Speaker 1: a little bit since the bye week, and CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 1: and I could see them clouding the picture for him.

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Speaker 1: I should have mentioned we're putting a five minute clock

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Speaker 1: on that. I mean, there's only one minute left.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, whatever will I do?

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Speaker 6: No? They Jesse Mintor's got three good pass rushers, and

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Speaker 6: even on weeks where Khalleio Max just a little bit quieter,

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Speaker 6: They are in these really interesting career native rush packages

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Speaker 6: and pressures in the NFL, and it's bringing everything that

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Speaker 6: Jesse Minter wants to do to life in the back

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Speaker 6: end as well as these young receivers plus Nico Collins

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Speaker 6: I do worry about them, especially when CJ. Stroud has

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Speaker 1: Do you throw the two AFC teams that are making

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Speaker 1: and so this will go a long way towards proving

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Speaker 1: that injuries. To keep an eye on Jamari Solier, the

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Speaker 2: Aziz Al Sayer.

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Speaker 1: He made his first Pro Bowl on Tuesday, but we

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna be available for this game.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of intrigue there. And then we got

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Speaker 1: this from the research department.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is interesting. This is more stupid than in dressing.

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Speaker 5: Let's where correct.

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Speaker 1: DJ Stroud has won four straight starts for the first

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Speaker 1: time in his NFL career. When he when he's good

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Speaker 1: for him? Yeah, they won with Davis Mills. Of course

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Speaker 1: a few times. Each time CJ. Stroud had a win

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Speaker 1: streak of at least four games in college, it was

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Speaker 5: Who is that car ball? Wow?

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Speaker 6: Wow, Hey, that's a good that's not dumb.

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Speaker 4: That's a great little nugget right there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's a great it's a great nugget.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to have an impact

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Speaker 6: All that ever, everything that's ever happened before has to

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's just because Samously everything was on the up

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Speaker 3: and up in an arbor during Jim Harball's tenure.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to our next game.

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville favored by six and a half points after going

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Speaker 3: up there and dominating in Denver at the Indianapolis Colts,

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Speaker 3: expecting perhaps Riley Leonard gets a start here forty seven

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Speaker 3: and Jordan I meane g Rex's gonna give the audience

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Speaker 3: a lot of insight into what makes this Jags offense

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Speaker 3: so much fun to watch.

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Speaker 6: Well, I can't wait, and thank god someone is finally

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Speaker 6: going to be talking about the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 4: Am I right, guys?

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Speaker 6: I mean, after this entire season, I've heard nothing, including

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Speaker 4: No, I love this team.

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Speaker 6: They went from being drag andized MESSI fun team pick

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Speaker 6: is playing like one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

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Speaker 6: I put this on Blue Sky earlier this week, where

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Speaker 6: I'm like, hey, Trevor Lawrence, the playoffs. A wait, but

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Speaker 4: Our last episode.

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Speaker 2: He is the position.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, and I do think too. You know, I

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Speaker 6: well coached. They attack the ball. They're up there among

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Speaker 6: special teams. They have an edge over a lot of

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Speaker 6: they have more edges in every phase of football than

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Speaker 6: the Colts do. Right now, despite the fact that when

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Speaker 6: I watched Riley Leonard, I watched the.

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Speaker 2: Game a couple of weeks, it will be Philip Rivers

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Speaker 4: It oh, okay, so we know that, all right.

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Speaker 6: Well, I still think that the Jaguars have the edge

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Speaker 6: and I do think that they It's going to be fun.

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Speaker 6: I hope they like amp up the mics again like

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Speaker 6: hear all of Philip Rivers audibles, and that for Indianapolis

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Speaker 6: is the thing I'm most looking forward to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the shine Ssychin revealed it just a few minutes

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Speaker 1: before we started taping here that it will be Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 1: They were not eliminated on Sunday, and I think I

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Speaker 1: and they need to win out, and they have to

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Speaker 1: get a strength of victory tiebreaker which is about fifty

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are heavily favored in this game for a reason,

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Speaker 1: and they would eliminate the Colts and put the Texans

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Speaker 1: But if you're the Texans, you want to go ahead

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Speaker 5: But they actually deserve.

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Speaker 1: Well, the injuries are where you have to start, because

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Speaker 6: and I'm like John Harbaugh, like, at what point do

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Speaker 4: Is your franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 6: I know he will want to play no matter what,

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Speaker 3: But if Lamar could play in this game in relatively shortly,

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Speaker 1: Well, isn't that so reminiscent of so many moments during

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Speaker 6: Where they are ill miss some of that's like illness

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Speaker 1: I just mean that where they're not on the same

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Speaker 5: It's how it works, you know.

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Speaker 7: And my focus is on always it has been for

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Speaker 7: And anything after today I'm not thinking about because you know,

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Speaker 4: York Giants head coach John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll he'll have here me out, he'll have his opportunities.

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Speaker 6: Who's the funniest bow that could have asked that question?

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Speaker 6: My guess is Bow Nicks, my.

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Speaker 1: Bo McKinney, I'm not even going to say his last name,

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Speaker 2: Interesting guy, you're listening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, The Packers, if they win, also would clinch their spot.

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Speaker 1: That was a that was a tough situation. And Harboss

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Speaker 5: Kept he kept saying, to his knowledge, was his decision.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, and he said it was a rotation that we decided.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, Jeff Hafley if you're going to try

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Speaker 1: The Packers are coming off two of the toughest losses

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Speaker 1: I've never seen you so emotional watching a football game

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Speaker 1: as watching Steelers Lions last weekend. In the news room,

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Speaker 1: you were dying more even than you would with a

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Speaker 1: Ravens game. But you just needed the Lions to help

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Speaker 1: you out a little and then this situation wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: so so dire.

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Speaker 3: For well, doubly so because two weeks row the Steelers

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Speaker 3: have come out in the second half and just road

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Speaker 3: graded the opponent to an extent.

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Speaker 5: That's like, oh, the Steelers are actually.

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Speaker 2: They are playing their best.

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Speaker 6: They are playing their best football right now and on

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Speaker 6: both sides of the ball. And I guess the universal

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Speaker 6: balance has to swing some way because we never see

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Speaker 6: Chris Boswall miss a kick, So something has to go wrong, right,

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Speaker 6: just in terms of the balance of life in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, they're They're insane.

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Speaker 6: They're very, very productive on offense, running the ball well,

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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers is playing good football. They're getting explosive plays,

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Speaker 6: which they really struggled with early in the season. You know,

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Speaker 6: I knew it was bad or good if you're a

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Speaker 6: Steelers fan, but I knew it was bad. When Patrick

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Speaker 6: I walk in from filling up my water bottle and

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Speaker 6: Patrick is at his desk standing in the most wide

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Speaker 6: leg like father at the kids soccer game power stance

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Speaker 6: with the arms crossed I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 4: It was a masterpiece.

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Speaker 5: Well yeah it can.

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Speaker 3: It can all be about me, but I'm sure obviously

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Speaker 3: it was frustrating for Lions fans. But for perhaps those

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Speaker 3: Steelers fans were there chanting fire Tomlin to see this

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Speaker 3: team make second half adjustment after second half adjustment, and

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Speaker 3: it's like law, maybe that was a mistake, or maybe

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Speaker 3: those people aren't capable of introspection.

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Speaker 2: In the first year, we'll see if they get healthier.

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Speaker 1: So I think Derek Harmon was a huge return to

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Speaker 1: the lineup for them last week in terms of stopping

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Speaker 1: the run against the Lions, and the number the on

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Speaker 1: off splits for Derek Harmon this year are fantastic for

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Speaker 1: Harmon in terms of helping the run defense. We don't

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Speaker 1: know when TJ. Watt could return, We don't know if

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Speaker 1: Nick Herbrig could return. But on offense as good of

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Speaker 1: a player as DK Metcalf is and Olli Connelly pointed out,

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Speaker 1: we hit the news that Dk metcalf was suspended on

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Speaker 1: our previous show. He pointed out, look, Cleveland plays a

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Speaker 1: ton of man coverage and DK is their best man beater.

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Speaker 1: It's a total fair point. I do think the way

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Speaker 1: to beat this Browns defense is on the ground, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think you have to tell Arthur Smith twice

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Speaker 1: to run an offense through Ken Gainwell and Darnel Washington.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna absolutely love doing that sprinkle in

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Speaker 1: a little Jalen Warren at the end, ripping off forty

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Speaker 1: five yard gains for his fantasy teams.

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Speaker 6: Schematically, I understand DK metcalf is their best matchup player

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Speaker 6: for this particular matchup, but he's not the reason they've

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Speaker 6: been getting explosive plays. He's only been targeted on pass

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Speaker 6: the ten plus air yards at like a thirty percent

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Speaker 6: rate per next Gen, lowest of the season. You know,

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Speaker 6: obviously this just uh, you guys covered the news already,

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Speaker 6: but what a just a wiener of a situation that, like,

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Speaker 6: I can't even get into it because I'm just gonna

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Speaker 6: get mad.

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Speaker 4: But DK, hang in there, buddy.

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Speaker 1: He'll be back for the playoffs maybe sooner, and maybe

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Speaker 1: this will be out of date if the Appeal, you know, wins.

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Speaker 1: The thing is they their defense. Their offense has been

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Speaker 1: different with DK, and in general the last three weeks,

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Speaker 1: the average air yards per attempt are up like a lot.

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Speaker 1: The third and longs that they hit against Detroit were

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Speaker 1: up a lot. In Aaron Rodgers is holding onto the

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Speaker 1: ball longer, not long, but longer. It is a different

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Speaker 1: offense really the last three weeks, and you give him

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Speaker 1: some credit for adjusting. On the other side, should Sanders

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Speaker 1: has gone because of Stefanski, I think like Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: to the extreme extreme. Until that last third and thirty

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Speaker 1: two shot last week, he was averaging under one yard

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Speaker 1: per attempt. I mean that was a schemed up masterpiece

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Speaker 1: by Kevin Stefanski in a way. But also Shidur Sanders

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Speaker 1: did nothing in that game. Like it was crazy to

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Speaker 1: watch back.

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Speaker 4: We're on record.

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Speaker 6: Watch for Miles Garrett. I believe he's one sack away

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Speaker 6: at this point.

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Speaker 3: And going going up against the moral successor to Brett Favre.

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Speaker 3: Just in a lot of capacities, perhaps Aaron Rodgers could

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Speaker 3: donate a little history to Miles Garrett and then go ahead.

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Speaker 1: And I really hope not because that was the most

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Speaker 1: annoying subplot of the Michael straehand situation from years ago.

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Speaker 1: But you could see a situation if the Steelers are

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Speaker 1: winning big. Aaron Rodgers feels like he would do he

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Speaker 1: would do that. He does not want to get hit,

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Speaker 1: but he just like sees Miles Garrett coming and just

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Speaker 1: just to get his name somewhere else, just gets on

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Speaker 1: the ground.

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Speaker 5: Just an opportunity to answer some more questions.

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Speaker 1: The thing about Aaron Rodgers is when you get pressure

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Speaker 1: on him, you get sacked.

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Speaker 2: He gets sacked.

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Speaker 1: I know he doesn't want to get hit, but he

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Speaker 1: has gotten hit quite a bit. He either gets rid

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Speaker 1: of the ball or he kind of just turtles up.

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Speaker 2: And so I think Miles Garrett does it. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: I need that. Andrews to Siliano call.

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Speaker 6: Also, you mentioned I tried not to laugh when you

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Speaker 6: mentioned he is holding the ball a little bit longer

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Speaker 6: and sort of manufacturing some of these explosive plays. Everyone

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Speaker 6: looks like they're holding onto the ball longer. When you're

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Speaker 6: watching Philip Rivers play football the last.

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Speaker 4: Couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I love watching it and they're still getting it done.

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Speaker 1: I have to I hate to do it, but you

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Speaker 1: do have to give a d a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we joked last week when he frustratedly looked

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Speaker 3: over at Arthur Smith throwing it short and we're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Aaron's not how after that they were going down.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We will be back on the other side and look

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Speaker 1: at some of the teams at the top of the NF.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to this on the day it comes out,

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Speaker 1: it's Christmas Eve, so maybe it's Christmas. This preview show is.

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Speaker 2: Gonna age like fine wine.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna take a You can return to it at

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Speaker 1: any time of the week. So hopefully you've opened up

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Speaker 1: some beautiful presence before settling in for a meaningful Carolina

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Speaker 1: Panthers Week seventeen game.

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Speaker 4: Do you know what it is for?

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Speaker 2: It's your presence, hey, is a present? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Our presence must not be good right now because you

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Speaker 1: asked us if we were okay during the break.

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Speaker 2: Which is good.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I like to check on you.

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Speaker 2: I think it's maybe projection. I don't know, like what

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Speaker 2: That is the number one.

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Speaker 6: The number one reason anxiety in my head.

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Speaker 1: What to make sure that people are not okay around

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Speaker 1: you is to suddenly ask if they're okay.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, it can't be a stressful time.

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Speaker 4: Never once worked on getting the shoulders again.

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Speaker 5: You know, football is family.

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Speaker 3: We get a couple of family related football guys. After

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Speaker 3: a baby bird calls the game on Saturday, it's Big Bird.

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Speaker 5: Calling the game with TJ's brother JJ Watt.

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Speaker 3: It is the Seattle Seahawks on the road at the

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Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers. Huge game in the NFC South for back

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Speaker 3: to back to back weeks for the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 5: Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 3: They've already beaten the Los Angeles R they're at Bank

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Speaker 3: of American Stadium.

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Speaker 5: Do they do that this week against Salmon Company?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: They Seahawks have a little extra rest. Hey, at this

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Speaker 1: time of year, you need everything you can get. The Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: if they are the team that we think they are,

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Speaker 1: they win this game. And maybe maybe they don't cover

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Speaker 1: the seven and a half. That's a big number. But

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Speaker 1: if they're the team we think they are, they do.

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Speaker 1: And it is crazy to look at some of the

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Speaker 1: like the historical efficiency numbers. For instance, DVOA has the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Rams and the Seahawks as the fifth

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Speaker 1: and sixth best teams through sixteen weeks that they've measured

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Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy eight, in which you wouldn't think that

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Speaker 1: because they have the three losses and the four losses,

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Speaker 1: But I do get it because it's pretty rare to

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Speaker 1: see teams this balance, this explosive on offense. In the

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Speaker 1: case of the Rams, but certainly explosive for the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: and then dominant on the other side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: whereas you know the Panthers, they have their issues. It's

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Speaker 1: a weird game in terms of stakes because the Panthers

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Speaker 1: would need the Bucks to lose to the Dolphins and

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Speaker 1: to win this game to clinch the NFC South. So

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Speaker 1: the odds are this game for the Panthers doesn't really

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Speaker 1: matter that much in terms of playoffs, whether they win

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Speaker 1: or lose, but obviously they're not approaching it that way.

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Speaker 1: But for Morales and just for they're playing a sport

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Speaker 1: to win the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And also who can ever forget?

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Speaker 6: And Patrick, I know you remember a lot of these

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Speaker 6: the like storied developed rivalry between those years that the

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Speaker 6: Seahawks and the Panthers played like once a year for

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Speaker 6: year after year after year during the Cam Newton era,

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Speaker 6: like and the fan bases were always at each other.

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Speaker 6: And the Panthers just haven't been good and forever. And

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Speaker 6: now they are feisty, right, they are feisty, and they

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Speaker 6: know that even if this doesn't necessarily affect in a

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Speaker 6: significant way the playoff seating. Specifically, this is a team

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Speaker 6: that is on a roll right now. Bryce Young is

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Speaker 6: playing some of the best football, certainly of his of

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Speaker 6: his career, and has made especially when he's using his legs,

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Speaker 6: which he's gonna have to against the Seahawks' defense. He's

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Speaker 6: made some plays out of structure, scrambledrope plays, really starting

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Speaker 6: to click with his receivers, who I still need to

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Speaker 6: see a complete game for.

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Speaker 4: Across the board.

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Speaker 6: But where I really think this is a sneaky interesting

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Speaker 6: matchup is Grays Abel's a really good player, right, He's

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Speaker 6: a really promising offensive lineman. He's playing guard. He's awesome, right.

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Speaker 6: We like Greys Abel kind of struggled a little bit

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Speaker 6: the last couple of weeks. And Derek Brown, who's having

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Speaker 6: one of the most underrated seasons of any defensive player

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Speaker 6: in the NFL this year, is on the other side

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Speaker 6: and has made multiple game wrecking plays against opponents of

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Speaker 6: this quality. He did it against the Bucks, he did

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Speaker 6: it against the Rams. That is a danger zone to

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Speaker 6: circle on your playsheet.

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Speaker 3: And as Shierra Everro's called great games against this division

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Speaker 3: this season, where you go back to that Monday night game, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's like give me back in there. But I'll think

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Speaker 3: about that game against the forty nine ers where j. C.

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Speaker 3: Horn as well as Mike Jackson made those great plays

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Speaker 3: on the ball, kind of confusing the look for brock

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Speaker 3: Party and a chance to do that up against the

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Speaker 3: You know, we just saw a really good pass rush

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Speaker 3: go up against Sam Darnold and the Seahawks seemingly scored

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Speaker 3: unlimited points in the second half of that game. Where

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Speaker 3: I have had some concerns as of late for the

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Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers defense, but you brought it up, and looking

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Speaker 3: back at it, there's a story here. It was that

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Speaker 3: early in the season in twenty fifteen people were wondering

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Speaker 3: is this Panthers thing real? And Cam was up there

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Speaker 3: against the Legion of Boom. They came from behind in

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, snatched the flag. Maybe maybe Bryce does

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Speaker 3: it at home.

660
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Speaker 2: Greg, that would be next level.

661
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Speaker 1: We've had so many moments where you just believe in

662
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: the Panthers a little more, and that would be going

663
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: to like a completely different level and change how the

664
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: NFC looks. It hasn't been a good Seattle offensive line

665
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: of late overall, like run blocking, pass blocking, but it's

666
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: weakness on weakness. I mean, the Panthers are literally dead

667
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: last in the league in pressure eight they're the worst pressure.

668
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: Team in the league.

669
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Speaker 1: But I thought they cooked up to your point. Ever

670
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: owed some good timely blitz is last week. To me,

671
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: it's all about Bryce, like going down the field, like

672
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: he needs to hit vertical shots. Josh Norris pointed out

673
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: over the since Week ten, he is right near or

674
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: at the top of the league in completion percentage on

675
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: throws over twenty yards on Big Time Fox Wait. Like

676
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: he is a walking game winning drive the last couple

677
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: of weeks, I mean last couple of seasons. If you

678
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: get him the ball late in the game, he finds a.

679
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: Way to win it.

680
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 6: Callingham Carolina Reaper down there locally, I hope it sticks.

681
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: That's kind of badass.

682
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: The run game for the Seahawks, you'd like to see

683
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: it get better a little bit. I wonder if maybe

684
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: the Panthers run game turned around a little bit. Last

685
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: week was like a fifty percent success rate, which was

686
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: an improvement after really struggling.

687
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: They're going to need it, I think to compete.

688
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 5: With the Seals.

689
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Speaker 6: The thing about the Panthers is I picked the Seahawks

690
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 6: nine times out of ten. That one time you catch

691
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 6: him on the wrong week. The Panthers have been that team.

692
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 6: You catch him on that one week and they will

693
00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 6: make you pay for it.

694
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be back to back games for

695
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: the Seattle excuse me, for the Carolina Panthers in a

696
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: revenge against the Matt rule era where it didn't work

697
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: out for Baker Mayfield.

698
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 5: We'll see what Sam can do.

699
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: And speaking of Baker, his Dampa Bay Buccaneers five and

700
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: a half point favorites on the road against the Miami

701
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: Dolphins and quinn Ewers. Forty six and a half is

702
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: the number Kenny Albert and Jonathan Vilma on this call, Jordan,

703
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: are the Buccaneers gonna look better on offense?

704
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 4: Baker ball is not rolling.

705
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 6: In fact, it is looking kind of sad and disappointing

706
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 6: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

707
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Speaker 4: To me, it's hard to figure out what exactly the

708
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 4: problem is.

709
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 6: I think they have issues on defense, of course, but

710
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 6: they just keep making their own mistakes. It is penalties,

711
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 6: it is false starts. It's receivers running and you know

712
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 6: the quarterback and receivers are on different pages. It's Baker

713
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 6: pressing and trying to make throws that aren't necessarily there

714
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 6: pushing and maybe sailing a couple of throws. It is

715
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 6: just not smooth the way that it looked the entirety

716
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 6: of the season, the first part of the season, I

717
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 6: mean the entirety of the season. I think they would

718
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 6: settle for consistency because they can't. They're not even putting

719
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 6: things together in a way that makes sense to me

720
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 6: because of all of the pieces that they do have

721
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 6: on that offense and they have big time issues on defense.

722
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: Last week was so strange for them because I think

723
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: Baker played his best game maybe in a couple of months. Yeah,

724
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: but they didn't ask him to do anything. Like I

725
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: was like, Baker's actually playing pretty well, and he was

726
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: like ten for fourteen for eighty yards, you know, Like,

727
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: but he wasn't making any mistakes. And it was almost

728
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: like they had a couple short throws on third and

729
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: long and I was like, Oh, they're putting the governor

730
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: on Baker.

731
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 2: That's a bad sign.

732
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: The only thing I'd pushed back with the Buccaneers is

733
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: I've kind of settled on like the one thing they

734
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: did well was win crazy games in the fourth quarter,

735
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 1: and now they're just losing crazy games.

736
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: They've been great mediocre all.

737
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: Along, and if you look at all the efficiency numbers

738
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: and stuff, they're very much like team number sixteen to

739
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: twenty in the NFL and everything like rushing, passing, defense, offense.

740
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: They're just like a mediocre team. And the players like,

741
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: they're good players you look at them. But at this

742
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: point I'm kind of trusting that that issue they are,

743
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: which is why I do not like five and a

744
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: half points in this game. And it would not surprise

745
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: me at all if the Dolphins just end their season here,

746
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: But even then they actually would need the Panthers to

747
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: win to end their season.

748
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: They could lose this and still be alive. That would

749
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: be so depressive.

750
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 6: Where Okay, quinn Ewers had a terrible third quarter, let's

751
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 6: not sugarcoat that at all. The Dolphins overall had a

752
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 6: terrible third quarter, five or four turnovers, including one on downs,

753
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 6: and the Bengals scored every single time out of those possessions.

754
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 6: I will say the first half, quinn Ewers look like

755
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,479
Speaker 6: quality backup quarterback material, And I think where the Bucks

756
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 6: are a little bit vulnerable is right in the middle

757
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 6: of the field, and they're they're very good.

758
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: Those rookie corners on the.

759
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 6: Perimeter and they've been playing well and Meldan is obviously awesome,

760
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 6: but like they he is not afraid to laser throw

761
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 6: it on these little slants all day long. If his

762
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 6: receivers win, he's getting them the ball. And I think,

763
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 6: you know, our friend who was on the show, Cody Alexander,

764
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 6: worked a lot with with Quinn Yewers coming out trying

765
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 6: to read some of these older school pressures and defenses

766
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 6: where I think he's gonna not be so frazzled by

767
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 6: some of this stuff that Todd Bowles can bring because

768
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 6: he's been studying it even back when he was in college.

769
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: They are picking on Levante David and Servasi Dennis every week. Yeah, unfortunately,

770
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: Levante Davids had a good career, but if you look

771
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: at who's on the wrong side a lot of these

772
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: scores that they're giving up, it's him. I actually have

773
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: more concerns with the Miami defense. I don't know, I

774
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: have a lot of concerns in general in this game,

775
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: but like we get into little streaks of the season,

776
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, the Dolphins defense is actually played pretty well.

777
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: Since this like the whole season matters more and in

778
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: the end, like they're twenty sixth the EPA on defense,

779
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: their twenty second EPA for play. They're kind of getting

780
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: run over the last couple of weeks. But I don't

781
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: know what to think of this game other than it's

782
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: I think it's a toss up despite Quinn Yours well.

783
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: The score would indicate one thing, but clearly the Dolphins

784
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: defense was overmatched last week with with t Higgins and

785
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, and most teams would find themselves in that

786
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 3: situation with Burrow playing well, but the Dolphins have fifty

787
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: six point of their receiving yards coming after the catch

788
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: and the way that you know folks have targeted Levonte

789
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: David and going running side to sidebook Yeah, yeah, major danger, right.

790
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 6: Mike wants to do He wants to get Quinn Yours

791
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 6: to just slant him to death on these Yak plays,

792
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 6: getting moving across the you know side, like you said,

793
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 6: side to side and just like have him slant him to.

794
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 5: Chan potential huge AHN game.

795
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 2: To the outside.

796
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: It's it's less about vibes, but just more that like

797
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: if the Bucks were gonna show us, oh where are

798
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: the real Bucks? I feel like they would have By now,

799
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: I've kind of like they actually could make the playoffs.

800
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: Veris like they could lose this game and make the

801
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: play They could find a way to win that game.

802
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: But I don't know, just we haven't seen it. And

803
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: whatever Todd Bowles is doing isn't really working on defense either.

804
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 5: All right, Bucks, try extra hard, just regret.

805
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: The Philadelphia Eagles, going on the road to take on

806
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills, were favored by one and a half.

807
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: It is Fox, Uno, Kevin Burkhart, and Tom Brady.

808
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 5: The Bills didn't do much. Josh Allen had an X

809
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 5: ray at half.

810
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 3: Tom narrowly squeezed out a win against the Cleveland Browns,

811
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: Eagles playing much better.

812
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: What do you think, rig I love this matchup. It's

813
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the most watched games of the

814
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: year because it's the only four to twenty five game.

815
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: It's basically opposite, not like we're all just going to

816
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: be watching this game in the window. And this is

817
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: the good on good matchup. It is the very good

818
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: Bills offense for all the problems that they have, Like

819
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: it's by far the stronger side. It's a top five unit,

820
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: and it's a great offensive line against this Eagles defense,

821
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: where like the four men pass rush for the Eagles

822
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: hasn't been amazing.

823
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 2: I would say the last handful of weeks like it's it.

824
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: It hasn't been as dominant, but overall, they're a dominant

825
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: defense against a really good offensive line. And you're probably

826
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: getting Jalen Carter and Lane Johnson back for this game

827
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: if the reporting around the team is right, and so

828
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: whatever issues that Josh Allen and this offense are having

829
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: in terms of everything is so condensed. Talk about air

830
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: yards per attempt like he is dead last or first,

831
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: depending on how you want to say it. Since I

832
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: think week twelve and it's not even close, like Aaron

833
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: Rodgers is second to last and Josh Allen is throwing

834
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: for the fewest air yards per attempt.

835
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: What have they done with our big beautiful boy?

836
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 6: Actually, I'd like to pose throw the question back to

837
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 6: you because I have theories, But what do you Why

838
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 6: do you think they are so truncated down.

839
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: Because that's what's their best, you know, way to win.

840
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's more it's the it's maximizing the efficiency really

841
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 6: and it's it's like, listen when I say that, it's

842
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 6: not a compliment because we'd love to see them sail

843
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 6: the ball down the field. But it is actually the

844
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 6: highest probability play other than pressing the button that can

845
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 6: win them games without having to press the button the

846
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Speaker 6: entire two.

847
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: Wait, do we have Eric on a mike for this show?

848
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: Because you had a take that I think is Jermaine.

849
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 8: It's truncated because nobody can catch the damn ball and

850
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 8: he's basically like Suck I did Suck I turned it down.

851
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 8: But and James Cook is way better at everything than

852
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 8: the wide receivers are at most.

853
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: And the tight ends are better than the wide receivers too.

854
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: And I'm almost not including Khalil in the wide receivers

855
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: because he's on the inside.

856
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: It's it's the boundary, the whole.

857
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 8: The whole idea of dad, Dad's strength. Khalil Shakira has

858
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 8: been worse since he welcomed the baby into this world.

859
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 8: It literally, I've been there, new father stuff. He's tired, man,

860
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 8: something that.

861
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 5: The research now he's he's seen what this whole fatherhood take.

862
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 8: I think it's or Knocks had a baby. It's it's

863
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 8: evening now, but Shakier needs something. Man, you need to

864
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 8: take a nap.

865
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 5: We're a maximum fan motor.

866
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: I love that.

867
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 4: It's like a reddit board come to life.

868
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 5: But but yeah, like, let's be honest, we're gonna see

869
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 5: that this week.

870
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, oh yeah, let's dial up Tyrol Shavers on

871
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: Quinjon Mitchell, Like, no, this is and we love the button.

872
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: We celebrate the button. The butts went in at halftime. Yeah,

873
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: well we'll go there, We'll do phrasing.

874
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 5: It's twenty twenty five where Josh is getting X rays

875
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 5: at halftime.

876
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, come on, well, you know it's crazy, so

877
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: don't help your colleague. Joe Basalia. Did you know had

878
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: some numbers on the boundary receivers and who's been coming

879
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: in and out? Remember when they brought in Brandon Cook.

880
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: That was fun.

881
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: He's had one catch this year. Gabe Davis, Remember when

882
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: he was in the mix. He was back to a

883
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: healthy scratch. So was Keon Coleman last week. So if

884
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: you add up all the names that have been out there,

885
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: and that includes like Curtis Samuel at some point and

886
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: Shavers you're talking about. If you add up all eight

887
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: boundary receivers that have played for them this year and

888
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: turn them into one person, that one person would only

889
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: be seventh in the NFL in receiving yards.

890
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 2: That's that's what.

891
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: They've gotten from all their wide receivers combined.

892
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: That's that's insane.

893
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: George Pickens is like, see you later, six guys, eight guys,

894
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: whatever it is you.

895
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 4: Know who should pay Alex Peers.

896
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be good.

897
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: Honestly, at a certain point, you're doing yourself a disservice

898
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: because I know, like Keon hasn't necessarily done everything that

899
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: you want to do. Let's let's not have Josh in

900
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: this situation. Like you you want to like be the

901
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: firm truth teller and like, oh, we need Keon to

902
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: perform this, that and the other way. There's been multiple

903
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 3: games where they've looked like absolutely nothing, and those games

904
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: have something in common his kids.

905
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: Let's flip the sides before we finished with the minute

906
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: and talk about you know, Philadelphia's matchup against a Bills defense. Yeah,

907
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: that has it has its shortcomings, but their old guys

908
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: have been making plays. Like Jordan Poyer he said it,

909
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: He's like this season feels like a movie to me.

910
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: And the old.

911
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 6: Dads are the dads that you know are are like

912
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 6: more like you know unks at this point, you know,

913
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 6: are are the ones.

914
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 4: Holding it down. They're making it if this, if I'm

915
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 4: following the thread correctly.

916
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 2: Eric, they're making it happen.

917
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: And you wonder with Lane Johnson back, like, can you

918
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: get a real running game going?

919
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: Which Eagles offense? Which Eagles offense?

920
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: Do we see? I mean it makes sense for both teams.

921
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: It's going to be more effective to run. James Cook,

922
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: by the way leading the league in rushing.

923
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 6: You know, this close to the new year, it is

924
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 6: time for introspection, I think, And on this game, I think,

925
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 6: you know which pays is just gonna let me down

926
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 6: the least that's gonna win the game, Either the Bills

927
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 6: defense or the Eagles offense. Whoever lets us down the

928
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 6: least will win this game. So negative, that's the attitude.

929
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 6: I'm going into the negative with low expectations.

930
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 4: Babe expects.

931
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: I think this will be a great one.

932
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a little surprised Bills are favored in this game,

933
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: but I still like if this was the Super Bowl,

934
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: I would be surprised, certainly, But also but I think

935
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: it's on the table, Like it's on the table in

936
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: a way that like I'd be more surprised if I

937
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: saw like the Texans or the Chargers.

938
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeh, in it certainly well.

939
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 3: One team that might that Greg did not mention could

940
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 3: potentially play in this upcoming Super Bowl, the New England Patriots.

941
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: I'd be more surprised to see them yet favored by.

942
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: Thirty teen and a half against the New York Jets.

943
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: Steordan the over unders forty two and a half?

944
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 5: Idam I mean? And Greg Rosenthal's great friend and colleague

945
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 5: Drew Brees on.

946
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: The phone, neither Why are you even putting me there?

947
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: Because I've been saying it's been getting better.

948
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you coach, give advice and he has been getting

949
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: better thanks to your efforts. Do the Jets get better

950
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: against Greg's Patriots?

951
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 6: Jordan?

952
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 4: No?

953
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 6: Oh, okay, no, no, this this should be This isn't

954
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 6: the kind of game where if you're in New England

955
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 6: you don't overlook it, obviously, but you do the thing

956
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 6: that you need to do, which is be a good

957
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 6: team that beats bad teams.

958
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: And that is what they've done.

959
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: And they've done it a year in different ways, and

960
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: you got towards the latter part of their you know,

961
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: actually even in the middle when we thought the Panthers

962
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: were a bad team in different games there where they

963
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: were winning by a lot. They have to win these

964
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: two games to win the division. It's a little confusing.

965
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: If they were gonna have lost the game it was

966
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: last week, they could have kind of dealt with the

967
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: Ravens and win these two games to win. But because

968
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: of division record, they cannot slip up here against the

969
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: Jets and Dolphins. And there's even a scenario where they

970
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: you know, the Bills could lose this week because it's

971
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: a out of conference game that's really not going to

972
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: hurt them, and they could still win the division the

973
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: Bills next week if the Patriots stubbed their toe and

974
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 1: lose either of these games. Obviously, the Jets, it seems

975
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: less likely. They are as close to tanking as you know,

976
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: any team could be, because I think they're playing a

977
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: quarterback in Brady Cook that just doesn't give him as

978
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: good a chance to win as another quarterback who's active,

979
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: and that's Rod Taylor. So that's about as close to

980
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: tanking as it gets. They have not shown a ton

981
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: of life on offense on.

982
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 6: The Patriots side. Couple injuries like pretty significant ones to

983
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 6: look out for. As we're recording this right before we're

984
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 6: recording this, Mike Rabel said that Travon Henderson, who left

985
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 6: the game, Keyshaun Boody, and Jared Wilson bad Jared Wilson

986
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 6: are all in the concussion protocol, which you know obviously

987
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 6: you're going to keep just keep an eye on that all.

988
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: Morgan Moses, their right tackle, left that game, so they

989
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: could be down like three offensive line. And Will Campbell

990
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: is not back. I think they're hoping he's back for

991
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They've really missed Robert Splaine at linebacker just

992
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: because the big drop off. But they might get Milton

993
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: Williams back this week. It's interesting that if they would

994
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: play him in this game, but maybe you don't give

995
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: him a full compliment of snaps he is practicing. They

996
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: sounded pretty optimistic about it, and yeah, it'd be great

997
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: for Drake May to just go out there and put

998
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: up a big put up a big number like he

999
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: did last week that was his first three hundred yard

1000
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: game of the season.

1001
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: Put it up on a bad defense.

1002
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: There haven't been many times where they've actually asked him

1003
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: to do something like that.

1004
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: And while we know it's a bad defense, perhaps a

1005
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: lot of scribes greg watching that game on Sunday Night Football.

1006
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 3: Just noticed that he was just throwing for those numbers,

1007
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: three hundred yards an important game after Matt Stafford comes

1008
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: off a loss.

1009
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 5: We don't go negative on the conversation. Points.

1010
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Drake May has pulled within fifteen points of

1011
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford.

1012
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: And when I say bad, I mean this defense is bad.

1013
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: That was a good performance against Baltimore.

1014
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 4: How many points?

1015
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 6: I'm not saying this is going to happen, Greg, Yeah,

1016
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 6: but how many points would we knock Drake May? If

1017
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 6: he gives the Jets their first interception of the entire season,

1018
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 6: which they have not gotten yet.

1019
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 2: I think we would knock him. I think that's fair.

1020
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: I have been noticing among the tape heads out there,

1021
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: it does seem a little more split than the Vegas

1022
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: odds would indicate. I think Drake May is gonna get

1023
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: his share of first place votes if that voting was today,

1024
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: because there's just a great case to be made for both.

1025
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: But the one for him is watching how he navigates

1026
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: the pocket and that kind of reminds you of like

1027
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: what he's overcoming, and that's a bad offensive line and

1028
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: not like the best looking group on paper of receivers

1029
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: and that he's doing a lot on his own, so

1030
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: a big performance would help him, if you I.

1031
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 6: One of my favorite things ever is when a quarterback

1032
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 6: who's good at that shows his work and like draws

1033
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 6: it out for the viewer.

1034
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 4: If you watch the.

1035
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 6: Sort of All twenty two toward the quarterback angle of

1036
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 6: any of these past past protection snaps, in any of

1037
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 6: these drops where he's navigating the pocket, he literally is

1038
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 6: drawing you a map of how he's navigating the bucket.

1039
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 6: It is so exaggerated in the best way where to

1040
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 6: your point you can exactly see he's showing his work.

1041
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford does the same thing, just saying no.

1042
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: He is one of the best I've ever seen at

1043
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: how he does it. Burrow, Burrow doesn't really entering the

1044
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: league was amazing. I think it's Brady's super duper power.

1045
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: It's what made him Brady. But to do it with

1046
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: kind of the extra athoticism.

1047
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: That may have he's got a chance, got a chance.

1048
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: The conversation is happening right now, just not a lot

1049
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: of conversation about the New York Jets.

1050
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break and we're gonna come back.

1051
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about a banger of a Sunday

1052
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: night football game, A game so good I think they

1053
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: flexed into it, right, Bears forty nine. They didn't flex,

1054
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: but they should have. This would have been the game

1055
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: they picked. It's time for the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota.

1056
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 2: Let's go places. Oh sometimes the right game. Oh yeah,

1057
00:49:53,280 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: this rocks. Oh Christmas rocking. There's no I like it.

1058
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 2: It rocks.

1059
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: If the Christmas house band that we have locked up

1060
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: all year, then we take out.

1061
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: Just for this moment.

1062
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes a game like Bears forty nine Ers, it's a.

1063
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: Lot going on Christmas.

1064
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: If this game happened in like Week six, it would

1065
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: just be like, okay, you know. Sometimes it's happening at

1066
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: the perfect time, as these two teams are absolutely cresting

1067
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: and there is so much at stake, the Bears trying

1068
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: to win the NFC North. There's a possibility they will

1069
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: have already won it if the Packers lost on Saturday.

1070
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: But either way, the Bears are playing for essentially a

1071
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: playoff victory, which would be a one seed because they

1072
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: still very much have a chance at doing that. Going

1073
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: to Santa Clara to face a forty nine Ers team

1074
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: that has snuck up on everyone and they've put the

1075
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: Rams into third place in the NFC. The forty nine

1076
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: ers just have to win out just to get the

1077
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: one seed they're gonna they have a hard road to

1078
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 1: do it. They would have to beat the Bears in Seahawks.

1079
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: And these are the types of playoff previews that I'm

1080
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: talking about. And we talked Coach of the Year with

1081
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: Ali Connelly. This is a coach of the Year off

1082
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: and we might have another one in Week eighteen between

1083
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald and the winner of that little round robin

1084
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: might just get Coach of the year. Everything is on

1085
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: the table. Patrick. When you look at oh, I don't know.

1086
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: When you look at like this game, what do you

1087
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: think is the best group in this game?

1088
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: The best group is the Bears run game. The Bears

1089
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 3: run game against this forty nine Ers front where they've

1090
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 3: they've had to deal with a lot, and I understand

1091
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: they really had Philip Rivers and the Colts late in

1092
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 3: the game, you know, go in the other direction. But

1093
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: I think it's an opportunity for Ben Johnson and company.

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00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: Who'll be my pick for Coach of the year. Kyle

1095
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 3: scouts so many vets like I don't think Trent Williams,

1096
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 3: brock Party and all those guys, George Kittle, they come back,

1097
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 3: they get healthy.

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00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 5: It's not like you got to reteach them football.

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00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they they all missed parts of the year

1100
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: and they won games like either without them or with

1101
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: them playing her And I do give a little credit

1102
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: for like the multi year process. Maybe you shouldn't, but

1103
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: like that he identified the right people to have in

1104
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: that system.

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00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: Anyways, Oh no, I'm just acknowledging the farcical nature of

1106
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 3: the voting for this award. That's essentially like, hey, you

1107
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: did the most with the least. But it's like we

1108
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: got a couple guys going to Campton. I don't know

1109
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 3: that it's fair to say.

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00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I mean. It's why be the change.

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00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: We talked about it, and you can pick any We

1112
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: don't need to make this a coach of the Year discussion,

1113
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: but it is a good one to keep an eye

1114
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: because I would I think right now the forty nine

1115
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: ers passing attack and their offense in general might be

1116
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: even better, Like their best is maybe better than the

1117
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: Bear's best, and considering both defenses could be weak spots.

1118
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: I know the Bears have created a lot more turnovers

1119
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: that maybe that's good enough to win in a shootout when.

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Speaker 6: I'm thinking about the forty nine ers personnel on defense,

1121
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 6: the size of their personnel on defense, particularly in the

1122
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 6: second and third levels, the inexperience of their defense, particularly

1123
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 6: in the second and third levels, and their lack of

1124
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 6: size on the edges in some of those wider zone

1125
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 6: runs that we know in mid zone that Ben Jonson

1126
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 6: likes to run. And then I look at DeAndre Swift

1127
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 6: who's at nine hundred and ninety three yards and Kyle

1128
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 6: Macnunguy who's at seven hundred thirty one yards, and DeAndre

1129
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 6: Swift is running at a ninety six percent, excuse me,

1130
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 6: a forty seven point one WOO success rate, and Kyle

1131
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 6: Manungui is running at a forty six point five percent

1132
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 6: success rate. The two headed monster in Chicago, to me,

1133
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 6: is the dominating force in this game, and Bob Sala

1134
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 6: has to dedicate every single trick he has in the

1135
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 6: book other than magic beans that grow people larger, to

1136
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 6: go and take care of this run game because it

1137
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 6: is a monster.

1138
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: We've heard that trash You were talking early in the

1139
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 1: season about him like the first month of the season,

1140
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift has taking some shots on.

1141
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 4: This Wow when he wasn't running for what he was

1142
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 4: blocked for.

1143
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 3: It's yeah, that was Ben Johnson and then Jordan kind

1144
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 3: of clarifying and highlighting you're welcome.

1145
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,959
Speaker 1: Andre Swift is like the streakiest running back ever. He's

1146
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,479
Speaker 1: this is the best stretch of his career.

1147
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 6: Though he is and manunguy is pushing him. I think

1148
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 6: there is something to be said for that. You see

1149
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 6: it sometimes when a veteran player is like wanting to

1150
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 6: find that little extra lever right that again and regain it,

1151
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 6: and it's just it's hard to have it on all

1152
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 6: the time. Right at a certain point, and Kyle Manungai

1153
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 6: comes in and he is physical and he can be explosive,

1154
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 6: but he is running through people. It is both of

1155
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 6: these guys together are buying the offensive line, which is

1156
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 6: in turn reflected in the way that they're blocking. They've

1157
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 6: really come together as a unit, and I do think

1158
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 6: this is the number one advantage of both sides of

1159
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 6: this game.

1160
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 3: It's easier to lean on the lever when you don't

1161
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 3: have to be on the field all the time. Al

1162
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 3: Gungi allows DeAndre swift to get those breaks to be

1163
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 3: explosive where we saw the forty ninders being super explosive.

1164
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 3: And I know Brock loves to take chances. He doesn't

1165
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 3: get Gunslinger credit because the arm's not as big, But

1166
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: I don't think Brock can make the type of George

1167
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 3: down there somewhere, all right, Juwan, go get that against Mishan,

1168
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 3: Wriott and Brisker and the rest of this bear secondary.

1169
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,959
Speaker 5: I think they will get the ball a couple of times.

1170
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 1: And how about Pro Bowler Kevin Byerd getting it done

1171
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: late in his career? You wanted they have three Pro

1172
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: Bowlers and it was Drew Dolman first Pro Bowl the center,

1173
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: and Joe Toney and then how about Kevin Byrd in.

1174
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: The back end.

1175
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,479
Speaker 1: The thing I've really been impressed about Brock since he's

1176
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: come back and he got that first game out of

1177
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: the way, really is his decision making.

1178
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 2: I don't think he's taking too many chances.

1179
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: I know there was a thrower two in the Indianapolis game,

1180
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: but he was right to trust the guys there and

1181
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't too much. He's playing really high level football

1182
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: and I think both of these quarterbacks are not gonna

1183
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: face much of a pass rush, but Purty, because of

1184
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: his experience and the players around him and his coach,

1185
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: to me, against a team with no pass rush, they

1186
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: could actually do what the Packers did a little bit,

1187
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: which is keep that Bears offense off the field. That

1188
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: first half really stands in my mind. And I know

1189
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: they blew one situation near the goal in but they

1190
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: were averaging like seven yards for play against the Packers

1191
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: and they didn't have any points because the Packers were

1192
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: going on these long drives. And I do think the

1193
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: forty nine ers could do that, especially if they have Kittle.

1194
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: Kittle had an ankle sprain in that game. He said

1195
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: afterwards he does not think it's a high ankle sprain,

1196
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: so knowing him, he'll probably play through it, but you

1197
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: hope he's one hundred percent.

1198
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 6: I like that you said that, Greg, because this is

1199
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 6: an opportunity for the most with Yushchek, Kittle, potentially McCaffrey

1200
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 6: on the field, the potential for the vintage I'll Shanahan, Yeah,

1201
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 6: you got Matt Lafleur once, but you ain't getting me

1202
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 6: suffocation ball game.

1203
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 4: Seen it before, could see it again.

1204
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: And the Bears have one big advantage here. Well, first

1205
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: of all, they get a couple of extra day's rest.

1206
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: That's a nice one. Secondly, they've been in these fights

1207
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: these games, game after game, week after week, and no

1208
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: slight to Philip Rivers here. But the forty nine ers.

1209
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: I went and checked this. I was like, when was

1210
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: the last time they played a close game? It was

1211
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: like Week four or five. Every single game whether they

1212
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: win or lose. And they did get beaten a couple

1213
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: of times with mac in with Brock what like, it

1214
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: hasn't been close. They haven't been in a close game

1215
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: since that Rams comeback in Week five. That it's just

1216
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: kind of a weird thing that if it came down

1217
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: to the end, the Bears do have a little magic

1218
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: that tends to happen late in these games, and that

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Speaker 1: I never let you introduce this game, Fu, I was exciting,

1236
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: but it's it's a it's a three point favorite for

1237
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: the forty nine. I mean, if you're excited, I'm gonna

1238
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 1: do it again.

1239
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1240
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: The Rams are favored by seven and a half points

1241
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: in this game. They're going to the Falcons in Atlanta.

1242
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: Draft Pick. It's all happening. Joe Buck Troy Aikman on

1243
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: the call. I'm introducing it just to feel a little

1244
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: more alive in this holiday week. Jordan, can you imagine

1245
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: any scenario where the Falcons keep this close and make

1246
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: the Rams sweated out.

1247
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I've seen weird Rams games before they lost

1248
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 6: to the Panthers this year, so I mean, like, you know,

1249
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 6: it's but the Rams are, uh well, the vibe that

1250
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 6: I got talking to people in the building at the

1251
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 6: end of last week angry as hell. And also this

1252
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 6: is a first of all, this is a draft pick

1253
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 6: game winning. This helps them in the short and the

1254
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 6: long term game. This is a Matthew Stafford did not

1255
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 6: get a chance to be the one with the ball

1256
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:37,959
Speaker 6: in his hands at the end of the game, which

1257
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 6: salts to him like you guys would not freaking believe.

1258
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 6: And this is also Sean McVay getting a little bit

1259
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 6: more sleep this week game against.

1260
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: His the I mean we literally put up fight one yards.

1261
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 6: Were on baby stat watch and this but this is

1262
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 6: Sean McVay against Raheem Morris, this is Chrishula against Zach Robinson.

1263
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 6: The connections across the line of scrimmage for both of

1264
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 6: these coaching staffs, I respectfully say I give that edge

1265
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 6: to the Rams every single time, regardless if you were

1266
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 6: going to say entering the season, you're just looking at

1267
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 6: these matchups, you know, scheme over scheme, it's it's gonna

1268
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 6: be McVeigh.

1269
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: And the Rams kind of sad because he can help,

1270
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: you know, make this Falcon's coaching staff, which is coaching

1271
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: for its jobs, look bad with a big time win.

1272
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: And yet you're right, they are angry. They are going

1273
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: to be trying a little bit harder. Let's listen to

1274
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: Sean McVay. This is in an interview with our friend JB.

1275
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 10: Long during the week, and that's irregardless of whether we

1276
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 10: want or not. I could, you know, point to a

1277
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 10: handful of plays that if we make them. But but

1278
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 10: you know what, we didn't. We're not victims. We're not

1279
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 10: gonna make excuses. That's not who we are. That's not

1280
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 10: how we're wired. You give Seattle credit, but make no

1281
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 10: mistake about it. This is going to strengthen us. And

1282
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 10: I I just I know it.

1283
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 4: Greg, you asked me, he knows it. You asked me

1284
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 4: at the end of.

1285
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 6: Our recap of the Thursday night game, which you could

1286
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 6: catch over on the NFL's stream and main channel. I

1287
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 6: know there were some concerns that we did not cover

1288
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Speaker 6: that game.

1289
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Speaker 4: We cover every game, guys, We.

1290
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Speaker 2: Actually a game.

1291
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Speaker 1: Blady brought this up just a little programming note. The

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Speaker 1: live YouTube ones are now listed under the NFL's official handle,

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Speaker 1: but ours as well. If you can go to the

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Speaker 1: NFL Daily and scroll down, if you look at the collaborations,

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Speaker 1: you'll see our Monday night recap Colts and forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: and you will see the one now they are collaborating

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Speaker 6: Hello, Hi, Sorry about us in advance, but we like

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Speaker 6: you and we're happy you're here. You asked me at

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Speaker 6: during that recap, what do you think Sean McVay is

1302
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 6: going to be the angriest about And I said, oh,

1303
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Speaker 6: he's going to be so mad at special teams he

1304
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Speaker 6: won't even be.

1305
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 4: Able to see.

1306
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 6: Well, he fired his special teams coordinator, the first coordinator

1307
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 6: change that the Sean McVay is ever made during the season.

1308
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 6: Chase Blackburn had been with the team for a couple

1309
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 6: of seasons, and someone named Ben Kodwika is taking over

1310
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 6: and they're gonna get some help with an assistant coming

1311
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 6: in who was with the forty nine ers at one point,

1312
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 6: and you know, but it's this is a massive change

1313
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 6: to make. But they've lost multiple games this Sea's actually

1314
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 6: all of their losses, special teams was a big contributor

1315
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 6: in those losses. Now, there are other reasons why they lost, obviously,

1316
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 6: but I think that Sean McVay had just had enough

1317
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 6: at this point.

1318
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of Rams fans that said,

1319
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: can't you have thought about this in the offseason.

1320
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1321
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of logical people that think that.

1322
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 3: I think that's generally true because it's the like defense

1323
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 3: against the dark arts position in the NFL, Like we

1324
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 3: see special teams coordinators go after wins after losses, like

1325
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 3: it's constant just being rotated in and out where it's like, really,

1326
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 3: was was it this week?

1327
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 5: Like the plan just went that wrong this week?

1328
01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1329
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: This also, it seems like an organizational lack of emphasis

1330
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: one minute, Yeah, the way he.

1331
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: Talks about some teams.

1332
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: Some organizations emphasize special teams in the way that they

1333
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: construct their rosters. And even when you hear Sean McVay

1334
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: talk about it, it really stuck in my craw when they

1335
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: just decided to not compete on the kickoff last year,

1336
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 1: there was just like we don't want to try then,

1337
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: just like it's very anti football.

1338
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 6: I would say that the number one way to solve

1339
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 6: this problem is if Sean McVay himself spent more time

1340
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 6: right on.

1341
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying. He helps everything.

1342
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: And ultimately, look, their offense is in an incredible place

1343
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: and they're playing a defense with a lot of holes,

1344
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: and on the other side, they're playing against the Falcons

1345
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: offense that has been solid with Kirk Cousins maybe even

1346
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: a little better. He's not making mistakes. It was mostly

1347
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: near the line of scrimmage last week and has like

1348
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: big time players Kyle Pitts might get over a thousand

1349
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: yards and shout out to Bejon Robinson.

1350
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: Just want to recognize this.

1351
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: He is the first player and only the second player

1352
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: in NFL history along with Marshall Fock. If he can

1353
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: land the plane to average five yards per carry and

1354
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: ten yards per catch in a season with at least

1355
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: like two hundred rushes and sixty catches, he is over

1356
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: two thousand yards on the season. He can make any

1357
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: good scheme look bad. And he's just been dialing up

1358
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: about one hundred and seventy yards every single week.

1359
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 4: He's incredible, hosting identical stats.

1360
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 3: Jean Robinson, pay the man, Okay, Jordan making sure everything's

1361
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 3: all right. Everything's not alright for the Arizona Cardinals defense

1362
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 3: has fallen off greg The offense took its turn last week.

1363
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 3: They are seven point dogs at the Cincinnati Bengals. The

1364
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 3: over under his fifty three and a half. Kevin Coogler

1365
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 3: and Moose Johnston on the call. How's this winger?

1366
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,919
Speaker 1: It goes with a lot of points scored by the

1367
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals having fun. You know what I took away

1368
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: from that game in Miami that Burrow. It's like he's

1369
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: moving really well. Remember he had a foot injury earlier

1370
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: this year.

1371
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 5: He's got the special shoe.

1372
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: But he's always moved well.

1373
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: But he talked about that coming into this season, and

1374
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: I thought it showed up early this season before he

1375
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: had the injury that I think he was looking even

1376
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: more athletic than he did earlier in his career. And

1377
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: he's always, you know, obviously moved well in the pocket.

1378
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: But I just think like it's another level, kind of

1379
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: like we saw Lamar go up a level I thought

1380
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: last year going into the year. It's incredible. And this

1381
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: Cardinals defense is just giving up like a forty burger

1382
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: every week.

1383
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 5: It is tough.

1384
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 6: The Cardinals just signed Josh Carty, the disgraced Rams kicker.

1385
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: Does he disgrace Oh, that would mean he did something bad,

1386
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: do anything bad. I mean, if he was a picker

1387
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: for any other franchise, you wouldn't have called him disgraced.

1388
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 6: Josh Carty is a very nice young man, and I

1389
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 6: think he's gonna have a great career ahead of him.

1390
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 6: I watched him at Senior Bowl all the way. I

1391
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 6: watched every probably every kick, every you know, warm up

1392
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 6: kick of his entire career, and I think he's going

1393
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 6: to do just fie. However, when you're signed by the

1394
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 6: Cardinals late in the season, it does not look good

1395
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 6: for you in that moment of time with this Cardinals team.

1396
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 6: Also Garrett Williams, unfortunately it's an achilles injury and he's

1397
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 6: going to be on injured reserve to finish out the season,

1398
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 6: as will be Walter Nolan. So super super disappointing season

1399
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 6: in so many ways for the Cardinals, but also two

1400
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 6: of their best players. Obviously, Walter Nolan really really sparked

1401
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 6: when he was healthy, and Garrett Wilson is Garrett Williams

1402
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 6: is one of you know, the more underrated corners.

1403
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 4: In the league.

1404
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 6: Really tough, tough scene for Arizona for a lot of reasons,

1405
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 6: but more injury woes continue.

1406
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 2: It's thinks for the next coach if it's not Jonathan Gannon.

1407
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 5: I know.

1408
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport thought, you know in his report kind of

1409
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: summing up everything that there might not be changes. This

1410
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: is on track to be the worst Arizona Cardinals team

1411
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: of all time, which is hard to believe. But in

1412
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: terms of the record, I think it's the seventeenth game

1413
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: gets it worse. But if they don't win another game,

1414
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: they are the worst team. They are, by the way,

1415
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: without Kyler Murray in the Jonathan Garnon era. Then he went,

1416
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to just they've played nineteen games

1417
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: without Kyler Murray in the Gannon era. Do you want

1418
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 1: to guess how many they have won out of those

1419
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: nineteen games?

1420
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: Three? Three, two?

1421
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 4: Oh see we were up.

1422
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 3: Oh but see that was the cause of the whole

1423
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 3: vibe positivity in the desert, right.

1424
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 5: It was all Kyler's fault.

1425
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 3: And now finally that bad guy Kyler Murray is gone

1426
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 3: and the team can get back to being professional and

1427
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 3: losing all of these games.

1428
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 5: But they did have one positive note.

1429
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 3: Although treymt Brod's streak got snapped, he's going to stop

1430
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 3: at sixteen games with five or more receptions. Elijah Higgins

1431
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 3: played pretty well, so there's somebody to load up with targets.

1432
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 3: And they're playing against the defense that's now fallen down

1433
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 3: to the second highest blitz rate behind the Minnesota Vikings

1434
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons.

1435
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 5: And nobody's gotten blitz more than Jacoby this year.

1436
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: And shout out to all the fans NSC owners who

1437
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: have been riding that steady like twenty points a week

1438
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: from Jacoby. I mean, he's gonna get it done for you.

1439
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: And this week it could be even a little extra.

1440
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: Also a little tankathon impact on this game. This is

1441
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: involving the teams that currently have the number six pick

1442
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: in the number nine picks too strong.

1443
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 4: I should have used cast out.

1444
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 5: It's going to there's a few the McVeigh castaways.

1445
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 4: The castaways.

1446
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 5: The list grows.

1447
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a full island of them at this point.

1448
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 4: That'd be a good show segment.

1449
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 5: As a special teams coach this.

1450
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 4: Week, William Cohen swam back one of those.

1451
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 3: Teams that's not the Bucks in the NFC South that

1452
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 3: is playing significantly better at this point in the season

1453
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 3: is the New Orleans Saints. Also, every team in the

1454
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 3: South other than the Bucks playing pretty well right now.

1455
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 3: The Saints favored by two and a half on the

1456
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 3: road against Jordan the Tennessee Titans, who just thrashed the

1457
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 3: defending AFC champions, albeit without either one of their quarterbacks

1458
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 3: Andrew Catalan, Charles Davis, and Jason mccordy. On the call

1459
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 3: to the Titans, who famously didn't have a legitimate win

1460
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 3: earlier this year.

1461
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 5: According to our friend Greg.

1462
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 3: Rosenthal, get up back to back win against the Saints

1463
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 3: this week.

1464
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 6: You know, I think they have a shot. But guess what,

1465
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 6: I've been describing the Tennessee Titans in this way all year,

1466
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 6: I think. But you know what I think of the

1467
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 6: New Orleans Saints at this juncture, Patrick, what's that creditable?

1468
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 6: Creditable group? They are impressing me. The New Orleans Saints

1469
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 6: every week seem to improve in some form or fashion

1470
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 6: in every phase.

1471
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 4: Credit to them. Creditable And it's.

1472
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:34,560
Speaker 2: All about the quarterback.

1473
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: Like if Tyler Shuck wasn't playing like this, it would

1474
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: it'd be nice that you're winning some games. You probably

1475
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been winning these games if he wasn't playing

1476
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: like this, because he is the reason that they won

1477
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: a few. But let's say, like last week against the Jets,

1478
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: they're winning nine to six. At halftime, he doesn't really

1479
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 1: look that good in the first half. His past are

1480
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: a little all over the place. He might be playing

1481
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: through an injury. And then he balls out in the

1482
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 1: second half, and when he throws a pretty ball, and

1483
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be important for him to

1484
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: get to the finish line here after all the injuries

1485
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: that he went through in college. He has taken some

1486
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: big hits. We're about we're going to talk about Jackson

1487
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: Dart and like some of the big hits that these

1488
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: guys take are in the pocket. It's not like running

1489
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: or anything. It's true less. So I think of cam Ward,

1490
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: even though he's taken a lot of sacks, I think

1491
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: he avoids it better. He's coming off his best game

1492
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: of the year. But yeah, I think Chuck just keeping

1493
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: this excellent level of play going and getting to the

1494
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: finish line healthy, I think it's gonna be big. These are,

1495
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, the two best rookie quarterbacks in the league

1496
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: right now.

1497
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe an opportunity for somebody to stake that

1498
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 3: claim as the best rookie.

1499
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 2: Quarterback conversation subject.

1500
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: Wait, I do have something about this, this offensive rookie

1501
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: of the year chatter. The Saints fans, because they haven't

1502
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: had much to root for, are really getting in on this,

1503
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: like Chuck should be offensive rookie of the year, this, that,

1504
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: and the other. He's actually bumped up pretty high in

1505
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: the odds, for whatever that's worth. I think he's up

1506
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: to second or third, where he's like, not really that

1507
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: far behind. I think he's second right now. I think

1508
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I think to win Rookie of the Year

1509
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: playing only nine games, and that's assuming he plays the

1510
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: next two, your performance would have to be so exceptional

1511
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: that then you get into that conversation and you win.

1512
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: If you miss half the season, I'm not hearing it.

1513
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: If there's other good candidates.

1514
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 5: And also more of those nine games would need to

1515
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 5: be good.

1516
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 3: Albeit, Tyler Shuck has played pretty good here once we

1517
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 3: got into the stretch, run creditable if you will, those

1518
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 3: first few not up there. Meanwhile, t Mac has the

1519
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers contending for a playoff spot, and he's been

1520
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 3: their clear number one.

1521
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: If you averaged out a Tyler shuck game and gave

1522
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: him seventeen of those, I would listen, like, maybe that

1523
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: is the rookie of the year.

1524
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 2: But I agree with your point, it's not too amazing.

1525
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: Speaking of rooking classes, while we go deep on this

1526
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: Titan Sanes game, let's do it also important for Tankathon.

1527
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: I think harbod he'd be an interesting pick in Tennessee.

1528
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: By the way, they are only the second team in

1529
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl era to have three rookies with at

1530
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: least three hundred receiving yards. Alec iomanor of course to

1531
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: Marry Dk and then Gunner Helm who's been kind of

1532
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 1: frisky at tight end. And they all made some plays

1533
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: for cam Ward last week. So if you could guess

1534
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: the other team, I would give you a lot, but

1535
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: I'll give you a big time hint. It was in

1536
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: the last five years receivers this trivia. This is where

1537
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: they just receiver the fifteen seconds later.

1538
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, fifteen.

1539
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: It was the Packers a couple of years. Oh it

1540
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: just happened. Everybody eats Packers. I think the Titans win

1541
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: this big upset pick debut.

1542
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 5: Oh wow, if only somebody picked the Titans to win against.

1543
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 2: The Kansasity getting job by you, big job by you.

1544
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 3: The antithesis of everybody eats, folks are starving. It is

1545
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 3: the New York Giants on the road taking on the

1546
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 3: Las Vegas Raiders, who were favored about one and a

1547
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 3: half because the Giants offense it was going up against

1548
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 3: Flores's defense was Kafka esque yesterday, I mean last week

1549
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 3: where it was bizarre, uniquely horrible Kevin Harland and Trent

1550
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 3: Green there the over under is forty one and a half?

1551
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 5: Who what do we do with this? Greg?

1552
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 2: We watch do it? We don't watch?

1553
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: We think about the professionalism of Kevin Harlan, who was

1554
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: what was he?

1555
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 2: What game was he on last week?

1556
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 5: Whatever it best one because he was calling it.

1557
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever it was, it didn't have anything. It was

1558
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: the Titans Chiefs now that I remember. He approached that

1559
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: with all the energy and enthusiasm and great calls that

1560
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: he does every week, and they put him on this game.

1561
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: They're still higher up on the high, up on the

1562
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: totopole because these are two big markets. It actually, you know,

1563
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: this is not the bottom game, and this could very

1564
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: well decide the number one overall draft pick. This is

1565
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: one and two in Tankathon, the only two teams with

1566
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: only two wins this season, so it matters a lot.

1567
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: And the Raiders are coming in with some momentum after

1568
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 1: a good performance on both.

1569
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 2: Sides of them.

1570
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 6: Oh, I just I'd like to imagine, if you will,

1571
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 6: some one liners from Kevin Harlan that could be possible, Okay,

1572
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 6: carrying this game just off the dome, I'm thinking, you know,

1573
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 6: and it's Pete Carroll getting the butt slap, you know,

1574
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 6: or you know, Max Crosby a menace.

1575
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 3: Like we don't need no stick in tank for someone

1576
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 3: who's who's gonna have a big performance here Where the

1577
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 3: Giants were in that game, purely because I don't know

1578
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 3: who it was.

1579
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 5: Where this office of line was J. J. McCarthy.

1580
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 3: They just leave Brian Burns on the end of the

1581
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 3: line and McCarthy is not looking at him, Brian Burns

1582
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 3: clearly like there's nothing impeding him at all.

1583
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 2: And it's it's the screen. It's a screen.

1584
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: And they explained that he it was kind of unfortunate

1585
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,879
Speaker 1: it was a screen. It was more than unfortunately.

1586
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 2: That's not it.

1587
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: They always leave like a free rusher on the side

1588
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: on a screen got you gotta get rid of the ball.

1589
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: But he hurt his hand just two plays before, and

1590
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: and it was confirmed by Koc and Jay. I know

1591
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about a team that's game, but it was

1592
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: interesting to me and Chaos and JJ confirmed it and

1593
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: you can see it on tape. He hurts his hand

1594
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 1: two plays before and he can't catch the snap in

1595
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 1: shotgun and he tries to like get the ball with

1596
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 1: two hands and he just can't like hold the ball.

1597
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: So he's like pumping it.

1598
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 1: And so he knew he was trying to just dirt

1599
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: it because that's what you gotta do if the screen's

1600
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: not gonna work. And the screen wasn't gonna work, there

1601
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: was a defender in his way, and so he's like

1602
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: fumbling with the ball with this injured hand and then

1603
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: just takes a brutal hit.

1604
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 5: But that's what it takes.

1605
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 3: It takes that kind of calamity for the Giants to

1606
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 3: actually score of football points.

1607
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 2: Calemity.

1608
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, So again, I don't know that this Raiders defense

1609
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 3: can emulate what the Vikings were able to do. But

1610
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 3: not a lot of calls for optimism for late season

1611
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart and the Giants offense.

1612
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 2: Dart sacked in the end zone. Calamity. I don't know.

1613
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: Ashon Genti had some moments, yeah, a lot of them.

1614
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: Good for him and Drew Locke. He's doing the opposite

1615
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: of what I was talking about with Shuck. He is

1616
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: struggling to get to the finish line. He is not

1617
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: getting helped out. His entire left side and center of

1618
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 1: the offensive line was hurt last week. He's not getting protected.

1619
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: But if you look at him in press conferences and

1620
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: then watch him on the field, it has worn him down.

1621
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: He is like, you know, the the meme of like

1622
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: the president a couple you know, Barack Obama four years

1623
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: into his term or whatever that is, like Jackson Dart

1624
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: in one year of New York.

1625
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 2: Like it's a little he looks a little weathered right now.

1626
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 3: You feel that's the collective pressure of playing in the

1627
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 3: most important place.

1628
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 2: That's it.

1629
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 1: I think it's more playing for important place in organization

1630
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: that fired the one guy that was actually helping you

1631
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: and like sneakily, not that I'm like caping for Brian Dable,

1632
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: but they've been kind of lost on offense without Brian

1633
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: Dable and like that was his guy. Brian dable and

1634
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: if you want to develop a quarterback, it hasn't worked because.

1635
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 2: It was tough to watch.

1636
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: I know it was against Brian Flores, but he looked

1637
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: as lost as any quarterback all season in that game.

1638
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 6: Are you saying that Jackson Darts undergoing some sort of

1639
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,440
Speaker 6: a physical metamorphisms?

1640
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 2: There?

1641
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 5: It is?

1642
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: You know who also wants to put some good tape

1643
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: out there? You know Smith for all the teams out there,

1644
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 1: probably a backup next year, maybe a one B in

1645
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: a certain scenario. I'd love him to be a backup

1646
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: like on a good team, and then you know, if

1647
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 1: anything happens, so'll be it. He's playing for a job

1648
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:45,759
Speaker 1: and put out some good tape last.

1649
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 3: Week sounded like a threat for whoever's starting a energy

1650
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 3: you know from Kriig.

1651
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to see him on the Giant. Don't

1652
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 2: bring him back. You lost your chance.

1653
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: They had fifteen runs in that That was the most

1654
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 1: preposterous game of the season. I know not many of

1655
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: you will watch, but they had fifteen in that game

1656
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 1: before they threw a pass the Giants kind of incredible.

1657
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 2: That was it. This has been incredible.

1658
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 5: They should have done sixty.

1659
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 2: There were a couple of.

1660
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: Past plays where he just didn't get the pass off.

1661
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: But yes, we did it. We did it. We're not tired,

1662
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: We're feeling great. Okay, everything is okay. Episode Patrick wrapped

1663
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: up his Fantasy Live.

1664
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 2: Yeah for the season.

1665
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: I know, mixed emotions there, but the host with the

1666
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:31,839
Speaker 1: most on a great program.

1667
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 2: A congrats to the Fantasy Life.

1668
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, a great that I was able to do a

1669
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 3: TV show where it was able to be me with

1670
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 3: really cool people, with an audience that gets us, and

1671
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 3: so a lot like this show. So I have an

1672
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 3: embarrassment of riches in the people in my proximity.

1673
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: Secret weapon at NFL Network for a long time. Fantasy Live.

1674
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: We will take a little bit of a break, but

1675
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: in the feed you will hear us a little later.

1676
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:02,799
Speaker 1: Me Cynthia frielan to keep the greatest streak in sports

1677
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: going eleven or twelve straight weeks. I've lost count at

1678
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 1: this point. So that our picks will be up Friday.

1679
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: We're also going to recap the Christmas games. It's the

1680
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 1: last time you'll hear us. Merry Christmas, everyone, see you

1681
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: on the other side.