1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome an hour number three, Thursday edition 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Buck is on the road 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: traveling with his family. He will have the show tomorrow solo, 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: as I'll be up in Michigan doing a keynote for 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: the Michigan Republican Party, and to look forward to seeing 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of you there. There are a lot of 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: different stories that we have been talking about, and I 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: thought I would circle back the top of the third 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: hour here to what is unquestionably the biggest story out 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: there right now. Jimmy Kimmel suspended, potentially going to be 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: fired over comments that he made on the air Monday. 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: Got a lot of thoughts on those still. You should 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: know we're going to be joined by Peter Navarro. I 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: imagine he will have some thoughts on free speech given 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: what happened to him. He will be with us at 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour on the program. Here, let's 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: go back into the Jimmy Kimmel controversy. I've got some 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: more thoughts and I want to get your reactions. Eight 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: hundred and two to two eight A two. You can 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: also give us talkbacks. Let's play one more time, because 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: I know many people join the show at different times. 23 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: This is what created the latest free speech controversy. This 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: was Monday, during the monologue Jimmy Kimmel on the Charlie 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 1: Kirk assassination Listen. 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: We hit some new. 27 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: Lows over the weekend with the Maggi gang desperately trying 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 3: to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 3: other than one of them and everything they can to 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: score political points from it. 31 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so that is the that is the commentary. It 32 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: tied in in the minds of many to this calculated 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: attempt to try to make this crazy assassin seem as 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: if he were a member of the Trump's supporting right. 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: And there was a very calculated attempt to try to say, oh, 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: the reason Charlie Kirk was assassinated was because he wasn't 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: right wing enough, when all of the evidence that you 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: have all been exposed to and had shared with you, 39 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: certainly on this program and in other places, clearly evinces 40 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: that this was a guy who was dating a trans person. 41 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: Family says had gone far left wing, wrote anti fascist, 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: anti Nazi, pro trans messages, on the shellcasings of his 43 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: of the bullets of the weapon that he was planning 44 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: to use to kill Charlie Kirk. All of these things 45 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: clearly demonstrate that he was of the left and that 46 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: he was motivated by a decade plus of people out 47 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: there calling Donald Trump and his supporters hitler and Nazis. 48 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: And now that there is a suspension that has come 49 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: thanks to some of the affiliate stations out there saying 50 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: we won't air this, there is now a pushback in 51 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: an aggressive way against the idea that Jimmy Kimmel should 52 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: have been suspended over this. I'm gonna play some of 53 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: that audio so that you have a context of what's 54 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: going on, But let me just say this. I think 55 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: in general, you have to remain committed to principle over politics, 56 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: even sometimes when it leads to situations that you may 57 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: not like. The left has not done that, and the left, 58 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: in fact, let's use Disney examples. Roseanne Barr shared a 59 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: tweet that was deemed to be unacceptable and she was 60 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: immediately canceled, even though she was on the most popular 61 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: show on ABC at the time other than sports, most 62 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: popular scripted show, and they wrote off her character as 63 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: dying of a drug overdose. Gina Carano was on the 64 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: most popular streaming show in all of Disney, plus The Mandalorian. 65 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: She shared opinions that were considered to bexpected unacceptable on 66 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: social media. She was fired. So when the left has 67 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: established and when the Disney Corporation has established that their 68 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: standard of speech is, if we decide that it is 69 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: unacceptable in any way, we're going to fire you. I 70 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: don't think they have any legs to stand on with 71 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel, I just don't. I think they have cut 72 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: the legitimacy of their arguments out from underneath me. Now, 73 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: some of you are not going to appreciate this argument, 74 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: but I have made it consistently. Some of you are 75 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: going to nod along and say this is important. I 76 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: don't think anybody actually benefits from cancel culture. I don't 77 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: think society benefits from cancel culture. I don't think when 78 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: they tried to cancel Rush that that was a benefit 79 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: for this show. And many of you who listened to 80 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: Rush know exactly what I'm talking about. Rush was at 81 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the forefront of cancel culture. I not surprisingly to some 82 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: of you out there, people have tried to cancel me 83 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 1: for a long time. In fact, I shared this clip 84 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 1: from eight years ago this week when I went on CNN. 85 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: I've been banned from CNN for making a joke when 86 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: I said, Hey, the only two things I've ever believed 87 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: in completely are the First Amendment in boobs. If you 88 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: haven't heard that, here it is. CNN has still banned 89 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: me for that. Listen, I'm a First Amendment absolutist. I 90 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: believe in only two things completely, the First Amendment and boobs. 91 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: And so once they made the decision that they were 92 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: not related commentary, they called, I. 93 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 4: Just want to make sure I heard you correctly as 94 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: a woman anchoring the show, did you say what did 95 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: you just say? You believe in the First Amendment ends btwbs. 96 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: Boobs, two things that have only never let me down 97 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: in this entire country's history, the First Amendment and boobs. 98 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: So those are the only two things I believe absolutely 99 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: in the country. 100 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: I just want to make sure I'm hearing you correctly, 101 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 4: b oo ze or boobs, because as a woman, I'm 102 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: i'm as. 103 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: In boobs, I believe completely in the First Amendment and 104 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: in boobs. Those are the only two things I believe 105 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: one hundred percent in in this country. And by the way, 106 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: Jamel has actually sit up there. 107 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 4: To say that live on national television and with a 108 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: female host. 109 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: Why I say it live on the radio all the time, 110 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: because it's true, and that's what I do because I 111 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: like boobs and the First Amendment, which is exactly what 112 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: I said. All right, So if you haven't seen that clip. 113 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: Eight years ago, that was the number one trending story 114 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: in America, Brooke Baldwin wrote an editorial essentially demanding that 115 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: I'd be fired. I was doing sports talker radio. Everybody 116 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: tried to get me fired over that. Now it's ironic, 117 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: certainly that to make a point about believing in the 118 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: First Amendment, I would do it in a humorous that 119 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: would get more attention and not immediately apologized to a 120 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: woman who tried to play the identity politics card live 121 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: on CNN and tried to get me fired. But all 122 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: of these people that claim now that they are First 123 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: Amendment warriors for Jimmy Kimmel, they cheered when Roseanne Barr 124 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: was fired, They cheered when Gina Carano was fired, They 125 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: cheered when Tucker Carlson was taken off the air. They 126 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: would cheer and do cartwheels if I or Buck were 127 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: taken off the air, because they aren't really committed to 128 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: the First Amendment. They are committed to removing people they 129 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: disagree with from the airwaves. And that's why I think 130 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: the principle here matters, because the politics is constantly going 131 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: to shift. I've said before when Bill Maher got pulled 132 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: off the air ABC on a show called Politically Incorrect 133 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: for making politically incorrect comments about terrorists, I didn't think 134 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: that was appropriate. Now, Bill Maher's talented enough that HBO 135 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: came and they hired him, and he's probably got a 136 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: way better show now than he did when he was 137 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: at ABC. I give credit to the boss that Buck 138 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: and I have now and the reason that I am 139 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: sitting talking to all of you, Julie Talbot, because at iHeart, 140 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: they are committed to allowing people from a wide variety 141 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: of perspectives to be able to talk to large audiences. 142 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: There's a big difference between what you will hear on 143 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: this show and what Charlemagne the God will say, or 144 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: what Bobby Bones will say, or what Ryan Seacrest will say, 145 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: or what Steve Harvey will say. That's good That's how 146 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: the country should be. You should be able to go 147 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: out and be exposed to the largest possible collection of 148 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,119 Speaker 1: arguments out there and the largest possible collection of entertainers. 149 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: Now Here is my take on why I don't necessarily 150 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: agree with the way all this went down. I think 151 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: firing someone because of something that they said on air 152 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: is a form of cancel culture. For sure. If you 153 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: do not believe that Jimmy Kimmel's show is worthy of 154 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: being on the air, just pull it. They didn't pull 155 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert directly because of something he said on the air. 156 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: They said, he's losing forty million dollars a year. We 157 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: don't want to be in this business anymore. I think 158 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: we all, all of us actually end up in a 159 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: worse place when we are saying, you can't make that 160 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: joke that's offensive, you can't use that word in that context. 161 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: All of these things, I think actually limit the larger 162 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: scope of discussion in this country. So I'm probably going 163 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: to be the only person on the planet who said, 164 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: wrong decision on Roseanne, wrong decision on Gina Carano, and 165 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: I think wrong decision on the timing surrounding Jimmy Kimmel now, 166 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: I have tons of thoughts, and we've talked about it 167 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: all on the program, about the decline of late night 168 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: television and the fact that basically all late night television 169 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: turned into left wing propaganda where you can only make 170 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: fun of one side, and as a result, they destroyed 171 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: their business in the process. That I have no issue with. 172 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: If tomorrow iHeart decided, hey, you know what, Clay, you 173 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: and Buck, your show's not highly rated enough. You're not 174 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: making us enough money. We got to move on, I'd say, hey, 175 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: you know what, that's a business imperative. By the way, 176 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: thanks to you guys, that's not the case. In fact, 177 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: we just found out yesterday ratings are up twenty five 178 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: percent over last year. That's pretty damn good. Thank you, 179 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: But that's the business we're in. If you don't make 180 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: your boss's money, then at some point in time, they're 181 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: going to come to you and they're going to try 182 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: to find somebody who can or somebody who will. And 183 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: so if Disney had had the hutzba to come forward 184 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: and say, you know what, we're not getting a great 185 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: rating in this hour, we think it's time to move 186 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: on and try something new in that hour With ABC, 187 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: we think we can make more money doing something else. 188 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: I would have said, hey, you know what, more power 189 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: to you. I think deciding to pull him based on 190 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: comments ultimately is not beneficial. And some of you out 191 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: there goes, oh, at some point, I don't know what 192 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: it's going to be. They'll come for us. You know this. 193 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: They came for Rush now, I hope partly because of 194 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: what I did eight years ago when they came for me. 195 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: I like to think that I'm somewhat uncancellable. I'd like 196 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: to think that Buck is somewhat uncancellable. But when you 197 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: set the precedent that what people say on live shows 198 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: can lead to them losing their job immediately, it's never 199 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: going to stop, right, And that's what the left is 200 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: learning right now. They made these rules, and now they're 201 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: looking around and saying, wait a minute, I don't like 202 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: these rules. This is why people like me have been saying. Ultimately, 203 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: the precedent is going to blow up on YouTube, and 204 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: so there are going to be at some point in 205 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: time eight years from now, might be ten years from now. 206 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: But if we establish the precedent of if someone says 207 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: something I don't like, they can't make a living doing 208 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: that job anymore. Eventually, it's going to boomerang back on 209 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: the right, just like it's boomeranging back on the left 210 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: right now. And I'm gonna be the guy sitting back saying, hey, 211 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the right decision, and I'm going 212 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: to stand on principle over the politics of the moment. 213 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: Now again, if CBS, when CBS made the decision, hey 214 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: Colbert's gone, We're losing forty million dollars a year, I 215 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: think that's a rational, reasonable choice that they could make. 216 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm a business guy. I ran a media business. They 217 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: are people we've had to move on from because we 218 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: can't afford their salary because they're not actually making us money. 219 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: You heard stephen A and I have this exact discussion 220 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: on Tuesday where he said, ultimately, all of our jobs 221 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: come down to are we making bosses money? And if 222 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: you're not, you're not going to be employed very long. 223 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: This is, not, however, to me, a First Amendment issue. 224 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: It's a creative freedom issue, because nobody is keeping Jimmy 225 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: Kimmel from coming out and saying exactly what he thinks. 226 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: In any other form. He can start a podcast, he 227 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: can start a YouTube, Channel. Same thing for Stephen Colbert. 228 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: Look at what Tucker did when Fox News took him 229 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: off the air. It has never been easier for the 230 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: name on the back of the jersey to be able 231 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: to be followed anywhere. So I don't buy into this 232 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: idea of, oh my god, this is the biggest attack 233 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: on the First Amendment that we've ever seen. You know what, 234 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: a real attack on the First Amendment would look like, 235 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: murdering somebody in cold blood while they're at a free 236 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: speech event because you don't like what they are saying, 237 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: which is exactly what happened to Charlie Kirk. And it's 238 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: why there is a strong argument to be made that 239 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: part of the sickness that afflicts the left in this 240 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: country is they are more outspoken about a comedian not 241 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: being able to continue on his late night comedy show 242 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: than they are a dad being assassinated in cold blood 243 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: at a free speech event. One of those is a 244 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: significant threat to free speed each in America. That is 245 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk's assassination. The other is just a debate about 246 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: where a person should go to share his or her opinions. 247 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: It has never been easier for everybody in America to 248 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: share their opinions than it is today. I'll take some 249 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: of your calls, I'll take some of your reactions, but 250 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: I want to tell you right now, rapid radios makes 251 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: a tremendous product that is hugely beneficial for you, no 252 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: matter what your life situation is. My mother in law 253 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: has a rapid radio because she doesn't have great reception 254 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: where she lives right now, and she's able too easier 255 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: get on the rapid radios. My actually he's eleven. He 256 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: had his eleventh birthday yesterday. Happy birthday to my youngest 257 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: Nash he's in fifth grade. We don't want to get 258 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: him a cell phone yet. We will give him one 259 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: of the rapid radios in our family household and he 260 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: can take that out to be able to run around 261 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: and use in the neighborhood. So we can stay in 262 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: touch with him. 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But a lot of you weighing in on 282 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: the show so far during the course of the program, 283 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: and VIP email from Jennifer just came in. Didn't ABC 284 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: just lose a big lawsuit from Trump? Could it be 285 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: that Kimmel was fired because they were afraid of another lawsuit. 286 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: They didn't lose the lawsuit, they settled it. But I 287 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: think what you are getting at, Jennifer is ABC that 288 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: is owned by Disney basically decided they didn't think Jimmy 289 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: Kimmel was worth the risk that the Jimmy Kimmel Show 290 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: was creating. Now, you want to know what's really going 291 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: on here, Disney's trying to buy the NFL network, and 292 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: they're trying to curry favor from the Trump administration to 293 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: get that approved. I'm just telling you that's really if 294 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: you're if you're wondering, hey, what's going on? Why is 295 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: Disney suddenly sucking up to Trump? And anyway, why are 296 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: they firing Jimmy Kimmel. Why did Stephen Colbert get fired? 297 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: It's because those guys, Colbert and Kimmel were seen as 298 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: problems more than they were seen as talent. And this 299 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: is where great lesson for life. So long as your 300 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: talent exceeds your problems, you're always going to be employed. 301 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: If you're a great quarterback in the NFL, you can 302 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: get away with a lot. If you're not a very 303 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: good quarterback, you get fired. If you are making your 304 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: employers a lot of money, like Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen 305 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: Colbert used to do fifteen years ago, they'll take a 306 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: lot of flak for you. As soon as they start 307 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: losing money and they need to get approval on mergers 308 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: or acquisitions. Guess what, your butt's getting kicked to the curb. 309 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: I think that's the bigger story here of what's actually 310 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: going on. We come back, we'll take more of your calls. 311 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: We'll break all that down for you. But our friends 312 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: at the IFCJ they need your help every single day. Unfortunately, 313 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: people in Israel are living in danger, all sorts of 314 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: missiles raining down. 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A lot of you want 325 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: to weigh in on the Jimmy Kimmel News. By the way, 326 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: Peter Navarro was going to be on with us. We'll 327 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: try to schedule him later, maybe tomorrow if he can't 328 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: get in today. He was going to talk with all 329 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: of us, but he's now on the phone with the President. Yeah, 330 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: kind of an important thing to do. I think a 331 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: lot of you out there weighing in, though. Let's see 332 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: Kenny in Central Texas. What you got for is Kenny, thank. 333 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 5: You for having me. I just just wanted to point 334 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 5: out I've noticed that no one has mentioned that the 335 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 5: Democrats and the dj to press freedom of speech by 336 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 5: creating this concept of misinterpretation or misinformation or disinformation. And 337 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 5: I don't understand why no one's pointed out that what 338 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 5: Kimmel did was exactly misinformation and disinformation and would be 339 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 5: silenced using the Biden rules. 340 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for the call. Of course, it wouldn't 341 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: be silenced by the Biden rules, because the Biden rules 342 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: were not about actually trying to create a fair and 343 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: even playing field. They were about labeling speech. They did 344 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: not like misinformation or disinformation. And look, I've testified in 345 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: front of Congress about this and one of the reasons 346 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: why there are so many but Trump's win in twenty 347 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: twenty four was so incredibly important. Is all of the 348 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: people lecturing you right now about how Jimmy Kimmel's free 349 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: speech rights are being restricted. We're fine with Twitter, Facebook, Pinterurist, Instagram, TikTok, 350 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: every major social media platform in the country banning the 351 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: sitting president of the United States, every single one. I 352 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: think the number of people that are upset by Jimmy 353 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: Kimmel's cancelation and cheered President Trump's cancelation is almost almost 354 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: one hundred percent consistent right what I'm pointing out, And 355 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: I think this is important, and I understand power shifts, 356 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: power shifts, and right now, I love that Trump is 357 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: in office, and I hope that there are saying Republicans 358 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: in leadership for decades to come. History teaches us that 359 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: is not going to be true. Right now. What I say, 360 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: what Buck says, is favored by the party that happens 361 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: to control the White House and the Senate and the 362 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: House of Representatives. That's great, It's not always going to 363 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: be the case. And so if you set the standard 364 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: of speech that is acceptable is determined by the party 365 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: in power at any particular time, you are not standing 366 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: on principle. You are standing on power and minority speech rights. 367 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: And I don't mean you know, Black, Asian, Hispanic speech right. 368 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: I mean the party that is not in power, not 369 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: the majority. Minority speech rights are the most important in 370 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: the country. I had a con law professor. She was 371 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: actually a left winger, but she had a great line. 372 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: The reason why we focus on trying to protect minority 373 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: speech rights is she would always say, uh, free speech 374 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: in a democracy without protection for speech is two wolves 375 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. It's a great line. 376 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: Without free speech protections in a democracy, all we have 377 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. 378 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: The sheep always gets slaughtered. The person who doesn't have 379 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: the votes gets wiped out. That's why principle matters. So 380 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: I think the Supreme Court got the ruling wrong on 381 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: Biden censoring people like me and Bach who were critics 382 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: of his COVID vaccine policy. You heard Eric Trump on 383 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: with us a little bit earlier. They went to Facebook 384 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: and they threatened Mark Zuckerberg and they said, if you 385 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: don't restrict speech, then we are going to have significant 386 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: impact on you. I mean, I'm just telling you this 387 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: is the reality in which we live beyond to a 388 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: shadow of a doubt, A lot of you weighing in. 389 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: By the way, let me see if I can make 390 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: sure that I get everybody's name right. Peter Navarro, by 391 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: the way, has reached out. He's going to call us 392 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: here to close out the show, so we will get 393 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: him as well. But let me try to get a 394 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: couple more y'all in Fast Tracy and Wisconsin. What you 395 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: got well? 396 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 6: Three things. A boss can fire an employee if he 397 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 6: thinks that person said something horrible that either the boss 398 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 6: doesn't like or customers don't like. Number two, Jimmy Kimmel 399 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 6: is not totally censored. He can go on other platforms 400 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 6: and speak. And number three, he did say something that 401 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 6: these days, what you say if it could harm another 402 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 6: group or people? He said, you know, regarding Mega. I 403 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 6: mean people these days, they hear something negative about a 404 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 6: group and they take bad actions. I'm not for censorship, 405 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 6: but a boss can fire someone for saying something horrible 406 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 6: that either the boss doesn't like or employees. And I 407 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 6: kind of look at it that way with Jimmy Kimmel, 408 00:23:58,960 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 6: thank you. 409 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: For the call. I think the second part of what 410 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: you said is also supremely important. Free speech is not 411 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: you aren't guaranteed a platform. Jimmy Kimmel can go speak anywhere. 412 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: If I heartfires me tomorrow, I can try to find 413 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: somewhere new to go talk to as many people as 414 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: I want. The government did not take this act. Disney did. Now. 415 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: Was there pressure from the government, Yeah, what's that pressure? 416 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: They want to be able to buy the NFL network, 417 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: and Disney decided for its business being able to buy 418 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: the NFL network is more important. That is what I 419 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: think is the story is more important than Jimmy Kimmel 420 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: doing a comedy show. David in Minneapolis. What you got? 421 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: The previous color kind of stole my thunder. But you 422 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: know what, guys, the Democrats started us down this road 423 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: decades ago. We've been punching bags for these punks for 424 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 2: long enough, and it's time that we use their own 425 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 2: texts and methods against them and shove it right back 426 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: down their throat. You said that it might blow up 427 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: in our face. It's been blowing up in our face 428 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: for and what if we do nothing this time, the 429 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 2: next time the Democrats are in power, they're going to say, 430 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: oh yeah, well, they kind of played nice last time. 431 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll give them a break. No, They're always going 432 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: to go for our throat. It's time for us to 433 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: fight back. 434 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: I certainly understand that argument. I did in my most 435 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: recent book, a whole section on how to deal with 436 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: Cancel Culture twenty thirty pages, American Playbook. If you like coffee, 437 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: you can get an autographed copy of my book at 438 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: Crocketcoffee dot com. Code book. Totally understand that, Totally understand 439 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: that argument. My perspective in general is the most important 440 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: right we have is free speech, and I think we 441 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: need to defend it even from people that we disagree with, 442 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: because the principle of free speech over time is the 443 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: only thing that keeps us free in my opinion, Have 444 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: Democrats been wrong on many free speech issues for decades? Yes? 445 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: Are they now reaping the consequences of the cure they created? Yes? 446 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: Do I think that one day, Buck, or me or 447 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: some of you are going to also reap the consequences 448 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: of the culture that was created by Democrats? Yes, potentially 449 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: as well. Let's see podcast listener, tim Gg. What you 450 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: got for us. 451 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 7: Quickly was that the first time I've heard the first 452 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 7: amendment in Booths story by far the best way to 453 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 7: get banned from CNN. 454 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: That is the best way to get banned from CNN. 455 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: Picks for you, prizpicks dot com, code Clay. Get these down, 456 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: they'll be up on the website. 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Go to prizepicks dot com. 465 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: Use code Clay Mahomes more than one half passing yard 466 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: free square, Josh Allen more than one and a half 467 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: passing touchdown and Daniel Jones more than two hundred and 468 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: ten and a half passing yards. That pays four point 469 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: seventy five to one. Get hooked up today at pricepicks 470 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: dot com, Code Clay. Peter Navarro just texted that he's 471 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: stole on the phone with President Trump, so we may 472 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: or may not get him today, maybe Buck can get 473 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: him tomorrow. Buck, We'll have the show solo tomorrow as 474 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: I'll be up in Michigan speaking at a big Republican 475 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: event at mckinaw Island, beautiful place in Michigan, Michael in Massachusetts, 476 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: fire away which got for. 477 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 7: Us, Clay, I agree fully with you about the free 478 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 7: speech point. And as you know, the First Amendment protects 479 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 7: freedom of speech, freedom of press. I take it from 480 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 7: your point you would say speech is more important than press. 481 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 7: Here's my question. We hear a lot about hate speech, 482 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 7: and we even hear it from the press talking about 483 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 7: hate speech, but we never hear anything on the other 484 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 7: side about restrictions on the press the same way people 485 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 7: want to restrict speech. Wanted to get your thoughts. 486 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a smart question. And England, for instance, has 487 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: way more stringent standards when it comes to defamation, which 488 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: is either spoken with slander or written with libel, and 489 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: so you will sometimes see prominent figures choose to sue 490 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: in England, where the press is held to a more 491 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: stringent standard than in the United States. Now, I could 492 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: probably do a whole deep dive on this, and I 493 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: bet the guy joining us right now. Peter Navarro could 494 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: too a lot of this, as we see in speech, 495 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: parameter code and law now comes out of Times v. Sullivan, 496 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: which is the Supreme Court case dealing with the most 497 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: of this. I could do an entire show on Times v. 498 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: Sullivon and some of the flaws, but we bring in 499 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: Peter Navarro right now. Peter, you were just talking with 500 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: President Trump. I believe he's on his way back from England. 501 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: What was that conversation? Like, what can you tell us 502 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: about it? 503 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 8: You never talked about what we're talking about. But I 504 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 8: was delayed because of President Trump. But what I can 505 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 8: tell you is this that they are out to get us. 506 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 8: And the new book I've got I went to prison 507 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 8: so you won't have to is all about how not 508 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 8: only did they come after me, they came after President Trump, 509 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 8: they came after Steve Bannon. They targeted everybody I served 510 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 8: with in the White House in some manner with these 511 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 8: tools of law fare. And when I was in prison 512 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 8: for four months for defending the Constitution, I had the 513 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 8: discipline to do a daily journal talk about these things, 514 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 8: and I got this book out because if we don't 515 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 8: hold these people accountable. They're going to just keep doing it. 516 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 8: Everybody I served with in the White House the first 517 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 8: term I was there for all four years, got targeted 518 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 8: by the left in some way. The easiest thing that 519 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 8: would happen is they'd have to pay hundreds of thousands 520 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 8: of dollars or millions of dollars in legal fees. That's 521 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 8: the best they could do serving their country. The worst 522 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 8: you could do is what just freaking happened with my 523 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 8: brother Charlie Kirk taking a bullet by an assassin. And 524 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 8: then then they four times they tried to put President 525 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 8: Trump in prison, two times they tried to kill them, Bannon, 526 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 8: myself in prison, Mike Flynn, Rudy Giuliani. So this is 527 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 8: not a good time for this Republic. But we're fighting back, sir. 528 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 8: And that's why I wrote I went to prison so 529 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 8: you won't have to. And by the way, I don't 530 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 8: know if you saw the speech I gave at the 531 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 8: Republican National Convention, but that speech was given the night 532 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 8: of the day I actually got out of prison, and 533 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 8: it's a wake up call. So I hope your listeners 534 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 8: and viewers will pay attention to this case. We can't 535 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 8: let them get power back. They will keep doing this 536 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 8: again until we hold them accountable. 537 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: Peter Navarrow with us now he started four months in prison. 538 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: What was prison like? I can't imagine. It was a 539 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: very fun experience, but hopefully most of people will never know. 540 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: And the idea that you were there for political persecution 541 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: is even more bonkers. But in terms of the physical 542 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: day to day for four months is like what in 543 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: your experience? 544 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 8: Well, that's one of the stories that I went to prison, 545 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 8: so you won't have to. You know, it's a law 546 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 8: fair story about kind of how I got in there. 547 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 8: It's a love story about how my fiance Pixie and 548 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 8: I were able to manage the trauma of four months 549 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 8: in prison. But then the inside there's a couple of 550 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 8: things going on. I mean, you see kind of day 551 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 8: to day life of how for example, you know, I 552 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 8: lost twelve pounds, I got COVID twice because of the 553 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 8: of the conditions in there. You know, I saw some 554 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 8: some some no shortage of violence, no shortage of danger, 555 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 8: but no shortage of humanity as well. I mean, they're 556 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 8: they're they're good people in there who did bad things, 557 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 8: not just bad people who did bad things. And it's 558 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 8: just trying to navigate your way through that is a test, 559 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 8: the test of who you are and what you stand for. 560 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 8: And there's a funny story the beginning of I went 561 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 8: to prison so you won't have to about getting me 562 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 8: getting surrounded in the yard by three guys and I'm thinking, 563 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 8: you know, okay, what's going to go wrong here? And 564 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 8: one of them starts talking about how how they liked me. 565 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 8: He use the word like they did, and uh, they 566 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 8: say why because I wasn't a snitch, And inside and 567 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 8: I kind of kept a straight face, but inside I'm 568 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 8: want to laughing my ass off because I'm trying to 569 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 8: figure out, like the moral equivalence between me refusing a 570 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 8: congressional subpoena to defend the Constitution and these guys in 571 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 8: the classical snitch is not not not snitching on their 572 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 8: fellow criminals. So there's stuff like that. There's some significant moments. 573 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 8: I say, I saved one guy's life, I arguably helping 574 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 8: him get some emergency medical care. And I think one 575 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 8: of the most interesting stories inside the story is how 576 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 8: I became essentially an investigative reporter that uncovered a five 577 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 8: billion dollar, billion dollar scandal inside the Bureau of Prisons 578 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,959 Speaker 8: that now that I'm on the outside, I'd been able 579 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 8: to actually solve. So I think that's like a unique 580 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 8: historical moment that you'll never see. And I tell that 581 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 8: story as well. 582 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: But where were you, Peter on election night? And what 583 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: was your reaction to Trump's victory? 584 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: Oh? This is great. 585 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 8: So I get out of prison on July seventeenth, two 586 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 8: days after my birthday. The son of a bitch has 587 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 8: kept me in prison. It wouldn't let me out two 588 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 8: days early for my birthday. I give the speech that night, 589 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 8: and then Pitchy and I immediately go on the campaign 590 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 8: trail on the on the Trump bus and we were 591 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 8: going to uh, Georgia, We're going to Pennsylvania. We're going 592 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 8: to North Carolina, working really hard. Uh, we'd go. I'd 593 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 8: go to sometimes I'd be the warm up one of 594 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 8: the warm up speakers for a Trump rally, things like that. 595 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 8: And so the night, the night of the election night 596 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 8: is like at midnight into three am in the morning, 597 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 8: I'm with the Boss and where I think it was? 598 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 8: Where was it the Morne may somewhere out He's He's 599 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 8: going on for like two hours in a speech like 600 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 8: he loves to do and stuff like that. Leaving. 601 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: I think it was Grand Rapids, Michigan. If I'm not. 602 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 8: Michigan, that's right, it was Grand Rapids. We're up in 603 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 8: you know, the usual basketball hockey rink up in the country, 604 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 8: you and I love up in you. 605 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: Know, flyover country. 606 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 8: Uh, and he hits three in the morning before we 607 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 8: get out of there and we land Uh beck in DC, 608 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 8: I don't know, good morning, something like that. And you 609 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 8: know I was. There was no doubt in my mind 610 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 8: he was gonna win that race. 611 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: For Peter and Navarro. The show is ending here, but 612 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: I want you guys to go check it out. I 613 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: went to prison so you wouldn't have to won't have to. 614 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: A love and law fair story in trump Land being 615 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: released yesterday, guys, I'll be out tomorrow. I'll see a 616 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: bunch of you up in Michigan. Buckle have you. I'll 617 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: be back on Monday. Love y'all. Slay Travis and Buck 618 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: Sexton on the front lines of truth.