WEBVTT - Bachelor Baby Daddies 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:06.000 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.559 Chris Harrison Company from the home office in Austin, Texas 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:14.320 for this special, very special Father's Day edition of the 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:17.919 Most Dramatic podcast Ever. I've never done this, but since 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:21.119 we're all so much older and we've all become dads, 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:23.040 I thought what a cool thing to do for this 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.400 Father's Day week to go back and talk to some 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:27.800 of not only my favorite people who I got to 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.280 know through the show over the years, but also some 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.479 of my favorite dads on the show. And that is 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:38.680 Ryan Sutter, JP Rosenbaum, and Bob Genny. That's right, Bob Genny. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.639 I consider him a friend and a dad. And he's 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:44.600 actually a friend of my first guest as well, because 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.000 they were on the same season and fought for the 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.240 love of the same woman. Bob Genny somehow didn't win 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:55.160 that battle against Ryan Sutter, and the rest is television history. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.720 The first dad I wanted to bring on. Ryan, good to. 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.240 See you, buddy. It's you, Chris. Thanks for having me. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.360 It's been way too long. First of all, we have 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.560 to say, I'm just glad you're still a dad. All 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:08.520 the drama on social media. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.920 Right the second you think Milone was paying attention to 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:15.880 you in life, something like that happens. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:17.480 You know, it's funny. So I follow you and Trista 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.240 clearly online, and you guys are dear friends of ours, 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.360 and I know you to be a poet. I know 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.800 you to be a great writer. You express yourself that way, 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:28.759 and so when I read your thing, I said, yeah, 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.480 it's it's kind of, you know, over the top and melodramatic. 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.959 That's Ryan. You know, he was in a mood. If 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.559 you know Ryan, he's he can get in these moods 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.520 and it's not always about his family, sometimes just about 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.280 his health and his life. And so you're a great writer, 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.120 and so I know you express yourself that way. And 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.280 when I started reading the comments, I'm like, oh God, 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.040 people are really freaking out. They don't know what he's 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.080 talking about. And not that I really knew what you 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.240 were talking about, but at the same time, I knew 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.360 that that's not exactly how you would come on and 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.360 announce something dramatic happening in your life. 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.480 Yeah. Well yeah, First of all, if there was something 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.960 really really bad happening in my life, I wouldn't be 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.160 telling anyone like That's the other side of me that 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.720 you probably know is that I have a most of 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:14.080 my personal life state is pretty personal. So this was 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.800 so my take on social media is twofold. I enjoy 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.440 I mostly only use Instagram because I like pictures, and 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:25.079 I love looking back on my life and reflecting on 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.919 with the fatherhood theme, reflecting on my kids when they 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.720 were younger, and the writing portion of it just reminds 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.840 me of of the emotional states I was in at 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:39.880 those particular times. And you're right, Usually it's like all 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.680 most all good art seems to come from some sort 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:48.799 of it's not not tragic event, but something that really 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:49.760 hits you emotionally. 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:51.919 Well, pain and struggle always gives us good art. 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.880 Yeah, exactly. And I feel like and you made me 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:56.240 feel the same way. But I feel like I do 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.400 have some responsibility as someone that people know a little 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.480 bit about to share in some of that and let 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.480 people know, Hey, I deal with loneliness too, I deal 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.080 with health issues too. I deal with this stuff too, 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.959 and it's okay. The intent is not to be like, hey, 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:13.799 I'm going to throw this out here and make people 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.480 wonder if my wife's alive. You know, that's not what 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.280 I'm going out of all. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:22.360 The people that troll social media for you know, clicks, 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.160 and Ryan is not that guy. 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.239 No, I'll go months without a post and then suddenly 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.800 I'll get like in a mood, I'll and I'll send something. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.520 And this was a particular thing that Trista was doing. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.160 And it was the end of the school year. It's 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.080 been kind of a long year for us, moving and 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:41.400 lots of things going on. So whatever the culmination of 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:45.080 all that happened, and I was in that sort of place, 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.760 so I sent that out and as kind of a reminder, 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.440 And honestly, the intent was Trista wasn't going to be 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.280 able to have access to social media until she got 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.720 finished with this experience she was on. So I was 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.200 going to post these things, knowing the second she had 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.680 access to it, she would look at it and she 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.400 could see like, here's the here's what happened while you 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.560 were gone, Here's how much we missed you, here's how 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.040 much you know, how important you are to us, all 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.320 this sort of stuff, and then it just blew up 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:14.760 in my face and backgard. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:16.839 Yeah, like I meant this to be a love letter 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.960 to my life, not the most dramatic thing. Yeah, yes, 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:22.920 but and the funny thing is and then it kept going, 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.599 and it kept going. But that's that's the world we 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.080 live in, right, the clickbait, it all just kept It's 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:29.839 so funny because of all the people in the world 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:33.839 who would never want that or do that, right, And 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:35.760 I'm sure Trista was like, what did you do? You 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:36.640 blew up my life? 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.760 I know it was. It was nuts, even the totally 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.800 innocent ones, like when we left Mexico, I think I 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:47.599 just said, like, audios, we had this staying there with 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.040 me and the kids. We always would be like no, 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.400 SBN s Moubian like it's this isn't good. It's really good. 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:54.800 Yeah, We're not just good, We're great. 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.680 That's all I put. And people are like, oh my god, 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.360 stop it with the drama. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.679 And speaking to the kids, because this is the Father's 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:07.640 Day edition. Maxwell and Blakesley, you were a father, your 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.520 kids are You're getting up there? 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:09.680 Man? 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.000 What fourteen sixteen now? 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.840 Yep? Well fifteen sixteen, sixteen fifteen? 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:19.159 Yeah, oh wow, that's that's true. July. Well wait, who's 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:19.919 she's April. 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.359 She's April third. Max will be seventeen in July July 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:24.720 twenty sixth, on your birthday. 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.520 Yeah, I know, well I never let him forget it. 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:33.080 How is how has that changed now? Because I loved 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:37.080 every aspect of being a dad when they were kids, 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:38.840 you know, like babies and growing up, and then you're 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.960 teaching them how to walk and talk and introducing them 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.120 to hockey and all those things. But now that they 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.520 are young adults, as they kind of are now at 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.720 this age, how is how is your relationship with them 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:51.599 evolved and how has it gotten better? 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.919 Yeah? I'm like you, I feel like every phase in 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.839 life I was, I was in the in the mindset 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:00.359 of like, I wish they could just day of this 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.840 age forever, and then they would go from four to 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.440 six and they're like, ooh, this is even better. And 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:10.600 now we're having adult conversations. I have less time with 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:14.280 them because they're so busy and they're like Max can 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.600 drive himself to hockey. So we don't have those moments anymore. 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:22.440 And you can tell there they're wanting to be independent 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.960 and they're wanting to grow, and so some of it 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.839 now is allowing that to happen, sort of allowing the 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:32.200 mistakes to happen, allowing the experiences to happen rather than 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:36.480 trying to formulate those for them, right, and that's sometimes tough. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.800 But both Tristan and I are in this place where 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.160 you go from oh, my god, not another hockey tournamently 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.320 we got a every week and it's hockey, Hockey dance dance, 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.680 to like, oh, I can't wait for the next hockey 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.760 game because you can see the end event. Max would 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.000 love to play hockey after high school, but we know 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.279 the sports world is difficult and that's not always an option. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:02.560 So An injuries or what ever happened. So I find 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:06.640 myself soaking up every opportunity to watch them do the 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:10.480 things they love to do now, and like this trip 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.240 to Mexico, just hanging out with them and going snorkeling, 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.560 and you know, I would be dead tired from surfing 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.560 or something and LAKESI would want to go out and 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.720 snorkel and you're like, oh, yeah, let's go, let's go 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.200 do it, because in the back of your mind, you're like, 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:28.000 you just know your opportunities to do this are limited 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.000 as they continue to grow and become more independent. And 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.040 then the next thing, you know, they're the one with 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.600 ones with the kids and we're the grandfathers. You know, 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.080 this is the this is the rabbit hole. I can't 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.040 go down too far or it gives me anxiety. I'm like, oh, 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.200 my god grandfather, I can't be a godfather. 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.680 Yeah, well, just you know, I always say I tell parents, like, 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.600 you know, I was always worried about the college step, 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.160 And it really was the driving that separates you, because man, 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.760 how much do you miss picking them up from hockey? 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:58.200 And yeah, your car stunk to death because you lacrosse 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.560 and hockey are the smelliest sports in the world. But 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.440 the kids would be in the backseat just talking to 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.480 each other with their friends, and that was the download. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.800 You got all, you know, the information, and you really 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.720 heard exactly how excited they were, how hurt they were, 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:15.600 or whatever it was. And that is really that pivotal 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.920 moment when they start driving, and you do you relish 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.120 those moments. Now, I'll meet you at your game, and 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.040 in that hug after the game is over never gets old. 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.560 Yeah, no, I know, it's it's I mean, parenting is 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.080 one of those things that you people tell you how 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.040 great it is, and until you actually experience, you never 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.680 really know the depth of it. And I actually just 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.080 saw something recently where I think it was David Coggins 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:45.600 or something, one of those crazy dudes was like, and 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.120 this is the period of life I feel like I'm 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.840 in is it's all about setting my kids up. That 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.040 my trophies, if you will, in life, are my kids, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:59.199 how they interact with other people. They're my representation of 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.560 of who I am and who I want them to be. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.840 And I just want to give them as much as 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:07.640 I can at this point in their life to set 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:13.920 them up to be successful, caring, sympathetic, empathetic, smart young people. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.480 And so that's why you know, Tristan, I moved to Denver, 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.760 we did or we've done this kind of major life 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.800 change in order to just put the full focus on 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:27.120 our kids for this last two three years because we 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:28.600 know that they're going to go out in the world 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:33.280 and it's really important. Your first impression on in the 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.600 world is really important. And you know, I'm not saying 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:39.480 that selfishly that that I want them to represent me. 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.040 I want them to go out and be like, oh, hey, 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.320 Ryan's a great dad because his kids are great, but 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.520 kind of I do. I want them to go out 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.000 there and be like, hey, these are great kids. You 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.760 must have been there for them. You want you that's 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.760 just that's kind of the validation for the amount of 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.480 love and an opportunity that you can give your kids. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.440 And so that's been the real focus that it's not 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:04.400 keeping them necessarily just like actually safe, you know, like 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.520 making sure they don't drown and you know, crack their 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.040 head open the anymore. It's basically setting them up to 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:15.560 be competent young adults and confident people. And that's a 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.640 trickier thing to do with teenagers. 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.839 Well, I think you said something very important. I think 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.320 as a dad, as a parent, allow your kids to fail. 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.040 Don't always save them from every moment. And it's hard 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.439 to do. You want to go in and I think 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.920 this generation of parents has has done that to a 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.920 fault of going in and never letting kids fail. And 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.920 you really need to let them figure things out. Like 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.600 if they're not getting the playing time on a team 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.960 and they're bitching and moaning about it, it's like, okay, 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.640 well then go talk to your coach, you go talk 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.760 to them, or you do this, find out what you 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.480 need to do, and see, you know you're failing this class. 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:54.840 You go in and I'm not going to go in 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.520 and talk to your teacher. This is on you, and 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.800 you know you can help give them those guidelines and 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.680 how the parameters of how to do that. But it's 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.640 got to be on them to have those tough conversations 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:10.160 and to allow them to lose, to fail to all 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.880 those things are important that you know, because they're going 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:14.600 to in the real world. You're not always going to 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.480 get the job. You're not always getting the trophy. That's 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:17.200 not how it works. 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.840 Yeah, No, you're right, And no matter how hard you 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:22.800 try to protect them from all that stuff, you can't. 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.480 I had a really great fire chief one time. We 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.360 were talking about his son, and his son played football 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:32.559 and he was struggling, like you said, and he came 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.880 right out and said, listen. His son's name was Taya, 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.880 and he said, Tya, you're not really that good, Like 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.480 you need to start thinking about after football life. And 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.560 then he said he actually said that was the worst 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.400 mistake he ever made in his life because he could 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.600 have just been supportive, like, hey, maybe hit the weight 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.560 room a little more, be faster, knowing in the back 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.640 of his mind that life was going to teach his 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:59.280 son that lesson. So it hurt their relationship because his 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:03.839 dad discouraged him from pursuing what at the time was 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.200 a dream rather than just supporting, which is what I 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.199 do with my I mean, you know, I am no 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.640 one thought I was going to go play one to 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.360 get my one play in the NFL that I got, ever, 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.840 because my parents never told me to stop pursuing that dream. 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.040 And I'll never tell Max to do that, even though 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.439 I know he's got a less than one percent chance 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:24.000 of everythlaying. 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.000 He'll climb no matter how good you are. 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.880 Yeah, but life will teach him that lesson, And so 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:34.120 allowing life to teach them some lessons is really it's 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.360 really hard for Trista, especially she she wants to be 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.040 like and God bless her, she is the most nurturing, 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.600 caring person all I've ever met. But that's the battle 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.319 her and I have. It's like, hey, you gotta let you, 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.640 gotta let him go a little bit, because they're they're 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:52.079 not going to listen to you in the first place, 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.560 So just let them learn the lesson and salvage your 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.320 relationship with them and then be there to kind of 0:12:58.320 --> 0:12:58.960 help them well. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.360 And I always felt like, if you know the failures 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.080 on these small scales of you didn't make the varsity, 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.840 or you didn't get to start this this season, or 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.240 you didn't get the part and the play that you wanted. Yeah, 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:14.440 those are really nice small failures that will help you 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.520 later in life when you actually have something meaningful that 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:19.720 you know, you think it's the biggest thing in the world, 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.480 but it's not. You know, there's bigger things ahead in 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.280 their life that they're going to have to, you know, 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.480 get over those obstacles, and so you got to have 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.160 those smaller micro failures later so you can handle the 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.240 big stuff. How would you like to celebrate Father's Day? 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.520 I think I'm actually working, which is usually. 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.480 The case, but saving lives, it's what it's what he does. 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.839 Hang on one second, we have this puppy who is 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:46.480 chewing up my daughter's ballet issue damage. 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.360 That was the biggest dad comment ever. I have a 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.960 puppy who's chewing up my daughter's belly shoe. There you go. 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:53.520 That just sums up Father's day right there. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:58.319 Thatsris has been asking me that too. And then i'lso 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.400 have my fiftieth birthday birthday coming. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:01.959 Up and welcome to the club. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.360 Yeah, I know, great, I don't know I don't. I 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.640 would love to just spend some time with the family. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.760 We had this that Mexico trip was just so awesome. 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.959 For whatever reason, our kids get along really well when 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:19.200 we're on vacation. They suddenly become friends rather than just siblings. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.360 And yeah, I would love to somehow be able to 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:25.160 duplicate that on that day. But I don't put a 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:29.480 lot of I guess weight on these sorts of days anymore. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.280 It's just for me. Every day is Father's Day. I 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.360 get to enjoy being a dad every day I wake 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.880 up in the morning, and that's plenty good for me. 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.400 That sums it up. That's like, you know, I did 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.520 a separate little podcast about what Dn's like. Dad just 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.280 want honestly, if you take a moment, you give us 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.080 your time, give us a call, write us a letter. 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.040 Did your kids get the writing gene? Did you pass 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.200 that down to them to take time to write letters? 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:56.040 You know what? 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:56.400 Max? 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:01.760 Max has a girlfriend and she took a family vacation 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.560 for twelve days over in Europe or something. I didn't 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.520 even know this, but Tristad told me. He didn't tell 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:10.240 trust either. He wrote her a note for every day 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.920 she was gone, and then presented it to her when 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.440 she got back in like a fancy box that he 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.840 like wrapped sort of special, and I didn't read it. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:25.840 Stop it, geeth, he's got breastmant he's chewing on he 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.680 uh so. And then the second part of that is 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:33.040 he hated English class starting the school year. And then 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.200 we got a note from his teacher about a month 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:40.080 and a half ago before school saying how proud he 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.680 was of Max in the progress he's made writing and 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.760 he's he's embraced it. And he didn't. It's not natural. 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.120 I kept telling him, like, listen, you need to know 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:53.080 how to do this. It's important. But it's crazy Chris, 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.000 like just seeing him all of a sudden be fully 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.560 engaged in life, reading reading books, like he just read 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:04.000 that Make Your Bedbook from cover to cover yesterday, and 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.840 he's like he's into it. He's trying to get better 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:09.680 at sports. He wakes up every morning and goes over 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.040 the ice drink it's like fifteen minutes from our house, 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:16.280 skates for an hour by himself. Like he's just driven. 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.160 And it's really cool to see Blake'sy's the same way, 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:20.960 minus the getting up at six in the morning. But 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.680 She's the same way with dance, and it's you just 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:28.520 get so proud of your kids because they are figuring 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.360 it out, and they're figuring it out kind of on 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.720 their own, without a whole lot of pushing. We're just, 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.520 like I said, we're just sort of supporting them and 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.240 they're somehow managing to figure it out. So it's cool. 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.080 Well, they're managing because you're an excellent dad. You're an 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:47.400 amazing example of the grind, the fortitude, what it takes 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.720 to be successful, to overcome you know, health obstacles, et cetera. 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.240 And that's why I wanted to have you on. I 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.040 don't get to talk to you enough, and we have 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.040 two more dads waiting in the wings, but I really 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.000 wanted to have you on because you really, I think 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.440 you are a shining example of a just a good 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.280 man and a good human. But you're a great dad 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:06.879 and so happy Father's Day, my friend. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.199 Thanks sir, I appreciate it. It's great. Likewise, the feeling 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:11.719 is mutual. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:13.920 My love to you to trust it to the kids. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:15.720 Have a great Father's Day and I'll talk to you soon. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:16.840 Thanks Chris. 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:32.560 Hey there he is my next father, my next guest 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.520 on this Father's Day edition of the most dramatic podcast ever. 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.720 God he's still handsome as can be. JP Rosenbaum, How 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:40.359 you doing, buddy? 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:40.960 Oh good? 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:41.400 How you doing? 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:42.280 It's been a long time. 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.320 It's been so long. I was telling one of our producers. 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.080 I said, she said, how close are you in? 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:47.400 JP? 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:48.679 And I said, you know, he was one of my 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.720 favorite humans that ever came through the show. I love 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.160 him dearly. I used to get to see him five 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:55.879 or six times a year when he was working in 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.600 New York. We would always do dinner. We always made time, 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.600 and I just I never get to Miami. I realized 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.640 because of you, how little I ever go to Miami, 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.080 Because if I did, You're my first call. 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:10.440 I appreciate that. Yet we moved down about ten years ago, 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.440 and since then it's just, you know, life goes on, 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.359 like you know, things get in the way, and I 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:19.639 don't even get to La hardly ever. So but I 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:20.640 still love you just the same. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.480 Well, if anybody's under it was under a rock. JP 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:27.080 was obviously on the Backchorette with Ashley where they found 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.520 love got married, and one of the reasons, obviously father 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:34.399 of two Si and Ford, he did it kind of 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:34.639 like me. 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:35.199 He had to. 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.080 You know, it's kind of the best set up, right, 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.000 the older son younger daughter. That's yeah, as they call 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:44.080 it the King's choice, right, right. And you know, one 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:45.480 of the reasons I wanted to have you on is 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:47.960 because A you're a good friend and you're a great dad. 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.600 But b as you're in the same boat as I am. 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:55.439 You your kids are a product of divorce and I 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.159 you know, did that and one of the things I 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.359 really and I'm gonna let you talk about this, but 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.240 one of the things I see publicly anyway, is that 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:06.679 you guys really respect each other. You still can have 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.680 enough respect for your ex Ashley and say, hey, you're 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.800 a good mom during Mother's Day, let's promote you on 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:14.320 Mother's Day, and let's make sure the kids are with 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.119 you on Mother's Day. And it seems to be on 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:20.040 Father's Day she's really good about Hey, JP's a great dad. 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:21.520 Let's make sure the kids are with you. 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:22.080 Yeah. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:26.800 You know, I think we are very fortunate that we 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:31.000 are amicable and civil and know that the kids come first. 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:35.000 And you know, it's it's been a while now, it's 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:37.600