1
00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,520
Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and what coome of stuff?

2
00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:08,800
Speaker 1: I never told you prediction if I hurt with you?

3
00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,840
Speaker 1: And for today's Monday Mini, we are tackling one tiny

4
00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,960
Speaker 1: piece of a huge, huge topic. All right, So disclaimer,

5
00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,360
Speaker 1: this is not an episode about weight loss medication or

6
00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,160
Speaker 1: in this case, compounded GLP ones. That is a much

7
00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,840
Speaker 1: bigger episode than a Monday Mini. But today I did

8
00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,519
Speaker 1: want to talk about the absolute onslaught of ads I

9
00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,000
Speaker 1: have been getting for them, which is just not great

10
00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,360
Speaker 1: for my mental health, to be honest with you, could

11
00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,640
Speaker 1: really not use that my life, that would be best

12
00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,200
Speaker 1: for me. And also a lot of these ads are

13
00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,640
Speaker 1: very very targeted towards women. I think in one of

14
00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,000
Speaker 1: these ads as a woman called herself a fat freak.

15
00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,960
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, so I guess.

16
00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,319
Speaker 1: Content warning that phobim I actually saw that one today,

17
00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,880
Speaker 1: all right. So briefly, glp ones are drugs primarily used

18
00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,440
Speaker 1: to treat type two diabetes, but a bunch of other things,

19
00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,120
Speaker 1: but primarily for that. But in the past few years

20
00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,200
Speaker 1: they have become a popular quote off brand use as

21
00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,319
Speaker 1: a weight loss drug, partially led by influencers and celebrities,

22
00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,440
Speaker 1: and has caused a shortage and an inability to get

23
00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,200
Speaker 1: these drugs for people who needed it for diabetes. That's

24
00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,160
Speaker 1: something we'll dig into in our whole episode and is

25
00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,319
Speaker 1: from what I understand, mostly stabilized, although the pricing has

26
00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,360
Speaker 1: not stabilized. One in eight adults say they have taken

27
00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,840
Speaker 1: one as of last year. I believe most new users

28
00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,240
Speaker 1: an emphasis on new, are white women, and some surveys

29
00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,400
Speaker 1: have found women in our approaching menopause who are only

30
00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,720
Speaker 1: not obese. However, young people are a close runner up.

31
00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,160
Speaker 1: This is for a lot of reasons, but access is

32
00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,320
Speaker 1: a big one. Diabetes and obesity is more prevalent in

33
00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,160
Speaker 1: Hispanic and Black communities, so that is also something we're

34
00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:22,919
Speaker 1: going to have to tackle in our bigger, her larger episode. Clearly, though,

35
00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,840
Speaker 1: there was a huge market for these types of drugs

36
00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,639
Speaker 1: and using them for a weight loss, and new companies

37
00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,200
Speaker 1: and brands jumped into the pool. And then come the ads,

38
00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,720
Speaker 1: so so so many ads, and a lot of these

39
00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,040
Speaker 1: ads contain miss or disinformation, and we did talk about

40
00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,679
Speaker 1: this briefly in our Cerebral Ads episode, Smantha, but these

41
00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,000
Speaker 1: ads are misleading in a lot of ways. Several of

42
00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,320
Speaker 1: these products are not FDA approved, but they portray it

43
00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,840
Speaker 1: like they are are. They say that they are doctor approved,

44
00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,960
Speaker 1: which doesn't mean anything legally. By the way, what doctor

45
00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,160
Speaker 1: sure it does repeper it doesn't mean anything legally. Some

46
00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,040
Speaker 1: of these products, like gummies our jops, have never been

47
00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,720
Speaker 1: tested and have absolutely no proof that they work. A

48
00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,840
Speaker 1: recent study from legit script, which is a company that

49
00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,800
Speaker 1: works in healthcare product verification, amongst other things, found that

50
00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,080
Speaker 1: between twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four, there was

51
00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,520
Speaker 1: a twelve hundred percent increase in quote violative are problematic

52
00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,600
Speaker 1: GLP one ads. This is notably when there was a

53
00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,480
Speaker 1: shortage of the FDA approved varieties, all these other ones

54
00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,960
Speaker 1: started showing up. A twenty twenty five survey commissioned by

55
00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,360
Speaker 1: the National Consumers League, conducted on fifteen hundred women between

56
00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,720
Speaker 1: eighteen and fifty five years old, found that eighty five

57
00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,840
Speaker 1: percent of respondents believed the claims in these ads. Over

58
00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,040
Speaker 1: half believed the term doctor approved meant that it was

59
00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:58,920
Speaker 1: endorsed by medical professionals, which of course they did. In general,

60
00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,560
Speaker 1: people believed that that they were tested and safe and

61
00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,880
Speaker 1: at pretty high numbers. And to be clear that I

62
00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,880
Speaker 1: would too like that makes sense, right, if it's telling in.

63
00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,320
Speaker 3: Say yeah, obviously doctor approved this. That means this FDA approved.

64
00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,640
Speaker 2: Obviously, Right.

65
00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,680
Speaker 1: So I don't want to I don't want to sound

66
00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,960
Speaker 1: like I'm saying they're being foolish or this that if

67
00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,680
Speaker 1: you see it in an ad, I get it. I

68
00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,560
Speaker 1: would be like, okay, sure, Yes. In twenty twenty three,

69
00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,080
Speaker 1: companies that sell these drugs spent one billion dollars in advertising,

70
00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,240
Speaker 1: which was a fifty one percent increase from the previous year.

71
00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,800
Speaker 1: So why is this the problem? Apart from the obvious.

72
00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,360
Speaker 1: Perhaps there isn't information about side effects or adverse effects,

73
00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:48,160
Speaker 1: and people are spending money, perhaps a lot of money

74
00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,320
Speaker 1: to get something that has no proof of working and

75
00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,840
Speaker 1: could potentially cause a health issue. And on top of that,

76
00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,560
Speaker 1: they may be delaying getting care that has been tested.

77
00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,880
Speaker 1: Maybe they have another issue that they really need to

78
00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,480
Speaker 1: look into. There has been a substantial increase in calls

79
00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,480
Speaker 1: to poison control due to GLP one overdoses because a

80
00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,560
Speaker 1: lot of them don't aren't clear and how much you

81
00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,120
Speaker 1: should take. Wow, there's just a lot of shady stuff

82
00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,040
Speaker 1: going on in how they present themselves. One set, he

83
00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,920
Speaker 1: found that about half of online sites selling these drugs

84
00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:27,720
Speaker 1: or doing it somewhat illegally or unethically half and it's yeah,

85
00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,640
Speaker 1: to be clear, they promote other things to weight losses,

86
00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,720
Speaker 1: like the primary thing they promote, but they also say

87
00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:40,160
Speaker 1: stuff like hair loss. They'll help with acne or anxiety

88
00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,600
Speaker 1: or hormonal imbalance, all of these things that they are

89
00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,239
Speaker 1: promising that again hasn't been tested.

90
00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,320
Speaker 3: But with the GLP one mm oh, I feel like

91
00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,839
Speaker 3: weight like hair loss. If you're losing nutrients, you're going

92
00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:52,680
Speaker 3: to have hair loss.

93
00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,920
Speaker 1: Well that's what they are promising. Because right now I'm

94
00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,480
Speaker 1: getting served two ads back to back, really Mochi and Hers,

95
00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,480
Speaker 1: and there they both promise it.

96
00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's something I'll yelled at about.

97
00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,520
Speaker 1: So they did, they did, and I think, yeah, they

98
00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,000
Speaker 1: are kind of huge backlash. Yes, yeah, they definitely did.

99
00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,400
Speaker 1: And I think that what I'm talking about is less them.

100
00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,680
Speaker 1: But they're still in the there's still that.

101
00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:24,640
Speaker 3: They started really stuff during the super Bowl. What is that?

102
00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, absolutely absolutely we remember.

103
00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:29,799
Speaker 3: I don't think we didn't remember.

104
00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,480
Speaker 2: Hers. I will never forget. I didn't even see it,

105
00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,719
Speaker 2: and it's the live of our brain forever.

106
00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:37,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

107
00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, the timing of all these ads is very

108
00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:58,320
Speaker 1: strategic because they're trying to become the favorite products before

109
00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,280
Speaker 1: the FDA approval roles in.

110
00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,080
Speaker 2: Or it gets discounted.

111
00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,839
Speaker 1: But they're trying to do it before whatever happened, so

112
00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,560
Speaker 1: you're the you're the go to, So they're really pushing that.

113
00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't verify this, but I did find a whole

114
00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,160
Speaker 1: kind of complaining Reddit thread about these ads because I

115
00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,360
Speaker 1: was just like, is anybody else inundated with these? And

116
00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,680
Speaker 1: I've found a whole thread and they were saying that

117
00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,559
Speaker 1: they were getting coupons for a zimpic and their milk

118
00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:33,400
Speaker 1: kit boxes, oh, milk kit boxes, and that they're on

119
00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,080
Speaker 1: tender And somebody had kind of like the funniest, saddest comment,

120
00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,600
Speaker 1: which was like, which is very bad for me in general.

121
00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,600
Speaker 2: When it comes to day. Yeah, that's fair.

122
00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,880
Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, that makes me not one to date,

123
00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:47,440
Speaker 3: but thank you.

124
00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,080
Speaker 1: Okay, cool. But also here's I kind of briefly mentioned

125
00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,480
Speaker 1: this in a recent episode. I was trying to verify

126
00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,960
Speaker 1: if it's true. I've ultimately determined even if it's not true,

127
00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,720
Speaker 1: that at the company behind it still posted it not true,

128
00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,360
Speaker 1: being is it like an AI post or something, right,

129
00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,200
Speaker 1: but the company is real and uh posted it and

130
00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:15,320
Speaker 1: so it is from Willow Health, and it is from

131
00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,640
Speaker 1: a woman who is quite thin. It's a picture and

132
00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,800
Speaker 1: it's a post from her that says, weight loss medication

133
00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,080
Speaker 1: is self care, period, full stop. I hit my goal

134
00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,040
Speaker 1: weight after losing ten pounds. My health is better and

135
00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,760
Speaker 1: I finally love the way I look. Just because I

136
00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,280
Speaker 1: didn't waste time in the gym doesn't make it invalid.

137
00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,800
Speaker 1: There's just a lot I could talk about with this.

138
00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,240
Speaker 3: Oh God, yeah, I know what you're talking about. I've

139
00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,560
Speaker 3: seen that ad. I've seen that ad in my games

140
00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,280
Speaker 3: on my phone. I've seen that ad.

141
00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:52,360
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

142
00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:59,120
Speaker 3: Oh and giving it giving it towards menopause people actually

143
00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,120
Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense because as someone who is

144
00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,400
Speaker 3: getting older, I feel like I'm struggling more and more

145
00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,920
Speaker 3: with the weight loss and like trying to figure out

146
00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,800
Speaker 3: what I'm trying to do healthy. I'm okay with the

147
00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,600
Speaker 3: way I look, like I've accepted it. I would not

148
00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,800
Speaker 3: mind if I lost weight. You know, there's some things

149
00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,400
Speaker 3: that I'm like, Okay, these are the things that I

150
00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,240
Speaker 3: would love to do, But I'm fine as it is.

151
00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,840
Speaker 3: I'm not going to the extremes yet. Who knows, Like,

152
00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,240
Speaker 3: maybe those as will get me and I'll be like,

153
00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,880
Speaker 3: I hate it all whatever. But that's exactly they know

154
00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,640
Speaker 3: that this is a target audience, people who have been

155
00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,400
Speaker 3: told that they should be insecure and they should fix things. Yes,

156
00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,839
Speaker 3: I mean it's a target.

157
00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:38,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

158
00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,320
Speaker 1: No, they were very, very strategic in doing it that way.

159
00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,440
Speaker 1: And some of the research I read, a lot of

160
00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,520
Speaker 1: the women who were in menopause were saying, like, I

161
00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,280
Speaker 1: do all the things and I'm still losing I'm still

162
00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,800
Speaker 1: gaining weights. So I don't want to demonize people who

163
00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:02,480
Speaker 1: take this kind of medication response, but I really this

164
00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,440
Speaker 1: is about the advertising.

165
00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:09,280
Speaker 3: Right, No, it's definitely what is it called. I feel

166
00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,200
Speaker 3: like when it's like a targeted but it's such a

167
00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,960
Speaker 3: like because I've seen it too. I've seen it so

168
00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,839
Speaker 3: my when I've gone to houses and they watch cable TV.

169
00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:26,200
Speaker 3: It's either those commercials lawyers, but it's only it's a

170
00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,559
Speaker 3: lot of medications, including that and about weight loss. But

171
00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,479
Speaker 3: like it is there constantly on a constant rerun.

172
00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,000
Speaker 1: Yes, and at least the ones that are served to me,

173
00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,520
Speaker 1: it's almost all women, and I think in one there's

174
00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,600
Speaker 1: a man that's like, I'm so glad she started taking

175
00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,600
Speaker 1: it and I was like, oh, like oh, oh my gosh.

176
00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, we are going to have to come back.

177
00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,559
Speaker 1: And it's such a huge issue. This was about the advertising.

178
00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,240
Speaker 1: There are a couple of things experts are attempting to

179
00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:01,480
Speaker 1: do to curb the bad players in advertising realm around

180
00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:06,640
Speaker 1: GLP ones. They're trying to counter misinformation, make the tested

181
00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,880
Speaker 1: stuff more affordable, require brands to be upfront about ingredients

182
00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,600
Speaker 1: and dosage levels, and changing the conversation and stigma around

183
00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,839
Speaker 1: women in wage which I'm all for.

184
00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,000
Speaker 3: But good luck, right, especially because we have gone backwards

185
00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,600
Speaker 3: because of these types of medications. Saying that it's successible,

186
00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:24,839
Speaker 3: there's no reason not to.

187
00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,280
Speaker 2: Be then yeah, that the price tag maybe, but that's

188
00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,959
Speaker 2: the thing. It's I get it.

189
00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,360
Speaker 1: I get it if you really really we've been told

190
00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,520
Speaker 1: we need to be look a certain way, be the

191
00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:41,160
Speaker 1: certain weight, and you can't afford the tested one. You

192
00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,600
Speaker 1: see one that says doctor approved and it's got ads

193
00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,240
Speaker 1: on TV.

194
00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it right.

195
00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,479
Speaker 3: And there have been like there have been results with ozimbok,

196
00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,800
Speaker 3: like true Ozimbuk that has been regulated and has been watched.

197
00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,720
Speaker 3: But this is like a whole different thing, and like

198
00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,880
Speaker 3: we don't know we don't know a lot of the

199
00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,920
Speaker 3: side effects, and it's slowly coming about and having this conversation,

200
00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,679
Speaker 3: and there are people who are getting better because they

201
00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:11,199
Speaker 3: were pretty diabetic, like they are like tested. There's needs obviously,

202
00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:17,800
Speaker 3: but this conversation about accessibility, this conversation about it being

203
00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,160
Speaker 3: a franchise as well as money maker for corporations who

204
00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,719
Speaker 3: are evil. Yes, evil, I said evil. That's the whole thing.

205
00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,800
Speaker 3: This is unethical. Is what is the truth to this

206
00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,320
Speaker 3: type of miracle diet?

207
00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,000
Speaker 1: I say yes, And the truth is there is no

208
00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:40,760
Speaker 1: miracle diet. But we will come back to that. I

209
00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,559
Speaker 1: just had to vent because I was getting.

210
00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:44,600
Speaker 2: All of these.

211
00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,120
Speaker 1: And we will return. But listeners, if you have any

212
00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,800
Speaker 1: thoughts about this topic as things we should touch on

213
00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,080
Speaker 1: when we do get to our big episode about it,

214
00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,840
Speaker 1: please let us know or any other topics you'd like

215
00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,680
Speaker 1: to suggest. You can email all us at Hello at

216
00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,040
Speaker 1: stuffellevertold you dot com. You can find us on a

217
00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,560
Speaker 1: Blue Sky, a mollsuff podcast, or on Instagram and TikTok

218
00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,600
Speaker 1: at Stuff Will Never Told You. We're also on YouTube

219
00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:08,880
Speaker 1: and we have a book you can get wherever you

220
00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,040
Speaker 1: get your books. Thanks a Zoways too. Our super duce

221
00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,840
Speaker 1: Christina or executive christ Maya, and a contributor Joey. Thank

222
00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,480
Speaker 1: you and thanks to you for listening stuff Never Told

223
00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,080
Speaker 1: You books? Should I a Heart Radio? For more podcasts

224
00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,400
Speaker 1: on my heart Radio, you can check out the heart

225
00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,200
Speaker 1: radio app, Apple podcast or where you listen to your

226
00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,280
Speaker 1: favorite shows,