1 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Chris Harry with you on another training camp 2 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: edition of Chargers Weekly coming up NFL Networks. Dave Damaschik 3 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: joins me after Wednesday's practice and Coasta Mesa. But first, 4 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: tight Ends, Hunter Henry and Sean Colkin stop by. The 5 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: two friends and former roommates have known each other since 6 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: high school. They discussed the training camp grind, what it's 7 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: like to play with Philip rivers, and potential nicknames for 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: the tight Ends rule. All Right, got a tandem of 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: tight ends working hard after practice today, Sulk and Hunter Henry. 10 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: What's up, guys? What's going on? What are we doing? Man? 11 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: Doing good? Doing good? Putting in a little extra work today, 12 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: a little shortened practice, right, Yeah, yeah, I think we're 13 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: trying to do that every day, at least something. You 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: gotta do a little something. I'll give you an edge. 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: So um. You know, the season's coming closer, so we 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: always try to get together and do something. It doesn't 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: have to be a lot. You know, you're not trying 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: to kill yourself. But it's just the simple things. Yeah, 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: the little things, right, that's what it's all about. Three 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: weeks into training camp, guys, what does that feel like? 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: It's be honest, be honest, No, it's been good, at 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: least for me. I mean, it's been fun. It's it's 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: good obviously back here with the guys and the team 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: and playing on the field and taking plays. Um, you know, 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: for me, it's just football's back. I love football and 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm sad to get it going. Yeah. Yeah, I think 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: this is the point where, you know, every year you're 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: kind of like, all right, you're trying to get over 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: that hump. You know, it's the first two weeks you're 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: you're pumped, and then this is the week that's kind 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: of a grind a little bit. You gotta grind through it. 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: But you know, we all love it. We all love football, 33 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: and so you know you're able to push through it 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: a little actually, you know, push through it, and um, 35 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: so it's fun. It's this is the week that I 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: think is the grind part. And then and then it 37 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: kind of goes downhill from mary. You got games and 38 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: the season's right around the corner. Yeah, you get joined 39 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: practices later this week. What's the biggest difference from a 40 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: day like today versus seeing the Saints for a pair 41 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: of practices. Yeah, I mean, I think just when you 42 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: got pads on, You're going to get some new guys. 43 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's fun. I mean, obviously we have 44 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: great you know, locking whise. Going against Joey and malling 45 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: those guys every day has been great. It makes you 46 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: better for sure. But then it's nice self. So you know, 47 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: get some new new people out there and try new 48 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: schemes and you know, go against someone else and compete 49 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: and a good I mean, this is I mean, you 50 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: can see the two teams that were in the NFC 51 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: Championship last year in training camp essentially, right, Yeah, you 52 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: get to put yourself up against two you know, top 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: color for teams. I mean, it kind of shows you 54 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: where you're at as a as a team. So I 55 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: think too, you know, you see the same defense every day, 56 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: and so to you know, go against a different defense, 57 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: maybe some different coverages. You know, we go against maybe 58 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: man a lot, you know, we're going against man and 59 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: then they get we get to see a little bit 60 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: more zone and practice. So it's just a good change 61 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: up and it's always you know, good to We're gonna 62 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: make a little more competitive, so we're cheering on the defense, 63 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: they're sharing on us, kind of making a little game 64 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: atmosphere while you're out here. Um, so it's gonna it's 65 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: gonna be pretty fun. You guys are buds. Did you 66 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: know each other in college? Because I look, I looked 67 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: this up. You guys played played against each other a 68 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: couple of times? Right, Oh yeah, yeah we did played 69 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: against we did. Yeah, funny story. Yeah yeah, we're one 70 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: on one against each other at least one on one. Um, 71 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: did you guys played twice? So we played twice. He 72 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: goes back here before that, It goes back before that. Yeah. 73 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: So actually he was a senior in high school going 74 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: into senior I'm going into my junior year of high school. 75 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: And we both went to the Florida like elite camp 76 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: that fay So and there's like three tight ends there. 77 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: It's just me hamming another tight end, uh so, and 78 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: so we kind of go back. Yeah but um yeah, 79 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: he goes back all the way to the end and 80 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: then we kind of kept up with each other. We 81 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: went to a like a Christian athletic campum in college. 82 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: That was we kind of knew of each other. So 83 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of I feel like there was 84 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 1: just a story that was clossed over at this camp. Yeah, 85 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: so it was just Yeah, I was just meant to 86 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: be were it was meant to be here. Man, that's awesome. 87 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: So remember, Yeah, it's showing up to my first day 88 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: in San Diego and you know things haven't changed. Man. 89 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: He walks up to me about the condition. He's like, 90 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: what's going on, big Hunt. I think you said the 91 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: same thing to me I did. You can't change man 92 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: from that too, roommates to Uh, shoot, he was there. 93 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: He saw me in my darkest days too, saw me 94 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: right after my injury. He was living with me then. So, um, 95 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: you know we've been through a lot together. What was 96 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: that year like? Because I know you wanted to be 97 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: on the field obviously, but to see what Sean did 98 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: last year tense starts being such a big part of 99 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: the offense and how he's grown as a player for 100 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: you was just a friend. To see what he did 101 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: last No, it was awesome. Um. You know I was 102 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: there a lot, and I tried to be around as 103 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: much as I could. I was at games and traveled 104 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: with the team. So, um, I was trying to help 105 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: him out and try to help the guys out as 106 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: much as I could, and um, you know I would 107 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: listen to the plays. I would try to, you know, 108 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: just put myself in their position a little bit. But 109 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean they did awesome. Um obviously for reflecting on 110 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: our record and just how they worked every single day 111 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: and it was it was fun. Obviously I missed out 112 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: him a lot sucks, but at the same time, I 113 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: was very happy for him, and I think it's carrying 114 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: over into this year. I mean, we have a we 115 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: have a really good room and so I'm excited about 116 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: this year. What was it like for you last year 117 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: to this year's Sewan, because you know, Coach Whizz has 118 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: talked about you, You're playing training camp, You're catching a 119 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: lot of balls out here. To man, it's been cool 120 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, I think, honestly, I think I've had 121 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: a big jump from year two year three. I feel, 122 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, really comfortable this, you know, with the offense 123 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: and just being here. You know, now going to year three, 124 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: it's just you know, it's just time to mcclays and 125 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: you know, I'm having fun with my guys. You know 126 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of what Hunter said to you, I mean last 127 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: year how he was helping me and you know, just 128 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: from the experience that he's had in games you know, 129 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: it's just you know, you couldn't put a price tag on. 130 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: So I mean finally, you know, taking that to now 131 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: camp and this past offseason and you know it's preseason 132 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: games and I'm excited to keep going for this year. 133 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: What's the room like? Because Verge is it is it 134 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: awesome guy to have another locker room, won a Super Bowl, 135 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: UM versatile guy as well. And then you got Rip 136 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: who's had a ton of experiences from from college to 137 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: the pros. UM. You know, it's uh, I think it. 138 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, how do you how would you describe it? 139 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: I love it. I mean I think we, like you said, 140 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: we have great guys. UM. Yeah, version you know, being 141 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: and I think year nine now, you know, going to 142 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and winning and Super Bowl, I mean, 143 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: that's that's his experience. You know, that's firsthand and you're 144 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: talking about that the top of the top football players 145 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: in the world. You know, he's been there and played 146 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: that in one UM. So you know in this learning 147 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: what he brings in a blocking game too is uh 148 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: is tremendous. And you know, the tips that he's learned 149 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: and the stuff and the savvyness that he has and 150 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: being a vetted. Um. You know, I'm just every day 151 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: that's taking notes and then obviously the additional hunt you know, 152 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: being a guy that can do both, and that's kind 153 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: of something I take pride of myself as well, to 154 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: be able to do both. You know. It's just a 155 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: good room. We have fun, we compete, you know, we 156 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: make plays and we're there for each other. Room. Yeah. 157 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: I think I think it's underappreciated, the blocking side of 158 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: things and just Virgil, I think it's so underappreciated by 159 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: some people. Uh not that he's I wouldn't. I don't know, underappreciated, 160 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: but like just the blocking side of things, like you 161 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: don't we don't talk about it. I'll talk about it, right. 162 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: You know you're like, oh, well he had fifteen matches 163 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. You know he that dude is 164 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: a beast in the run game. Bro, that dude is 165 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: a freaking beast. All three of you guys, I mean you, 166 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: all three of you guys can do that, and I 167 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: think that's what's important. That's the room. That's why I 168 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: like her. Were out the room so much, is uh, 169 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, we're all we all take pride in it, 170 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: um and uh, you know, with me and him too. 171 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: I think especially you can move us anywhere and put 172 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: us in the backfield, put us, put us all over 173 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: the place, and you know, we're we're gonna be physical 174 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: and take pride and what we do. So and then 175 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: I think that just carries carries down the ladder to 176 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: everybody else. So it's it's it's fun to be run 177 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: and Rips the great. Yeah. Obviously coming in UM learning 178 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 1: and position was RiPP was a hit coach of James 179 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: mess my alma mater, the hit football coach. And it's 180 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: just it was fun talking to him last year when 181 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: he came in and just all his experiences and not 182 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: only in college but also all the stops in the NFL. 183 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: He probably brings a wealth of knowledge to that room too. Yeah, 184 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: he's uh, you know, he's old school, uh for sure, 185 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: So you know it's different than our old guy. But 186 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: he's very detailed, um, and you know, you're you're gonna 187 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: know your route depth on everything, You're gonna know you 188 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: know every detail to little matter. So um, you know, 189 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: it's very old school, but it's good for us. You know, 190 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: it's going to carry over in the games. This offense 191 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: with Philip and you're sixteen. It's funny to just to 192 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: see like the first two days of camp, it's just 193 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: like this guy has not missed the Beatles, shows no 194 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: signs of getting older slowing down. Um, how much easier 195 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: does that make it on you guys in this offense? 196 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: It just seems like you pick up from from last 197 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: year right off the bat. Yeah, you probably, but I 198 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: mean he's had so much experience with Phil. But I 199 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: mean for me my first year just seeing it from 200 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: the sidelines for most you know, being active most of 201 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: the year, and then last year playing and then now 202 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: this you know, camp and everything. I mean, having a 203 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 1: player like Phil like just makes everything so easy. And 204 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: it's crazy though often knowledge that he has, um, you know, 205 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: I look at it, it's like imagine playing like sixteen 206 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: years at Arkansas or Missouri. Yeah, it's like to think 207 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: how slow things are, right, that's really what he's done, 208 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, so um, he sees everything as he knows 209 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: at the game of football. Just think about like half 210 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: half the league. You know, you got guys in their 211 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: second or third year in the league at the quarterback position. 212 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: They're learning a new offense. Um, there's a lot of 213 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: places where you have new coaches in place and new 214 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: systems and everything's kind of in business as usual here 215 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: past three weeks. Yeah, he man, it's just like you said, 216 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: it's it's everybody just kind of ease a little bit 217 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: when seventeen is out there. Um, he just he just 218 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: calms everybody. There's just a calming about him. But at 219 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: the same time, he has this drive and this competitiveness 220 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: about him that makes you want to perform at a 221 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: level that that just pushes you even more because you 222 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: don't want to let him down, you know, you know 223 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, it's just different when seventeen is 224 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: out there. It is, uh, you know, it's a little bit. 225 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: You know we've done it now. But I remember, I 226 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: just remember my first two years. You know, I didn't 227 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: want to mess up at all with him, you know, 228 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: and you're you're gonna mess up sometimes, but it's like 229 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: you mess up, you feel that weight of it a 230 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: little bit because you don't want to let let him down. 231 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: Sooatballs too, right, you make one or two? All right, man, 232 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: I gotta get down. I remember, you know, I don't 233 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: I don't drop a lot of balls, but you know, 234 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: you drop a ball from Phil, and it's kind of like, 235 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: shoot hopefully you know you know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Phil, 236 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: come back. I'm sorry. You know I won't happen to 237 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: get problem. I'm sorry. I look at this defense and 238 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: the battles that you've had with dr went out here 239 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: and just the battles that you talk about Melvin and Joey. 240 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: You have four all pros in the secondary. To have 241 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: a book in defensive ends that are Pro bowlers, it 242 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: has to make you better. I know that you guys 243 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: know each other and know what y'all run, but to 244 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: go up against the caliber of athletes on that defense 245 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: every single day, how does that help you guys going 246 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: into week one against I mean, like you said, we 247 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: know you know where you see this defense. By the 248 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: end of the day, it's like it's mono. It's like 249 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: it's it's man. You know we're in You got drewin Price, 250 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: you gotta win. And you know he's a heck of 251 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: a defender. You know, I'm in past pro against Joey. 252 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: You know it's like that's you got you gotta give 253 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: you better because he's gonna raise your level because if not, 254 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: if you don't meet him, there he's gonna you know, 255 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: do what he does with you guys, see him do 256 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: all day on Sunday. Yeah. So, um, you know when 257 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: you when you feel like you're starting to get better 258 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: and you see it trans over to players like that, 259 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: I mean that's when you start to realize, hey, I'm 260 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: a good player, I'm getting better and you know it's 261 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: it's it's encouraging for sure. Yeah, yeah, it's. Uh, you know, 262 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: Derwin is obviously really really good. Um, and I think 263 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: everybody else in the secondary too, is very smart. You know, 264 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: they play off each other. Case he's really smart. You know. 265 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: We run a lot a lot of routes outside sometimes 266 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: on Casey he's just sitting there on and um, you 267 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: know it can get frustrating, and you can get frustrating 268 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: because you know, they start reading stuff and they start 269 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: doing different things. But and so that makes you better. 270 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: You have to kind of you know, make your routes 271 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: look different and do different things. Um. So it pushes 272 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: you every single day. You have to come out here 273 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: ready to work every single day. Yeah. I mean, I 274 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: see Desmond's going for the ball. You know, these guys 275 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: they want the football. So you know, as a as 276 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: a pass catcher. It's just by like the little things 277 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: in your mind you have to be cognizant of even 278 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: in practice. Right Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's what 279 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: they're they're the jack boys or whatever. Yeah, we gotta 280 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: get something for the tight end. We get enough, we 281 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: haven't get some recommendations, guys, let us know. Let us 282 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: know some recommendations for the tad end. We can brace 283 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: the storm right here. Guys, I don't know. We got 284 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: Joel Hunter and Sean I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. 285 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: Call we call it Virgil whole Hulk tho. I don't know. 286 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: It's like a Marvel it's a Marvel deal. I don't 287 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: know about that one. I always think he's injured, called 288 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: the actor when he's not. Why, you know, I think 289 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: he looks Yeah, I can kiss him off and then 290 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: don't make him angry. You wouldn't like it when he's angry. Yeah, 291 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: So I don't know, man. Yeah, they they're shoot going 292 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: back to the dbs. Uh. You know, they're really good 293 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: and you have to protect the ball after the cash, 294 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: that's the biggest you know. It's like they're coming to 295 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: strip and they're coming to punch and um, they're all 296 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: about the ball. So it's it's it's good every day. 297 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: I see you just complete a play and these guys 298 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: are swiping at the ball. You got you gotta hold 299 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: on tight. Yeah, it's kind of annoyance, but it's annoying. Honestly, 300 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: it's like a little gnat or fly all the time. 301 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: You're kind of like to stop. But you know, I'll 302 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: tell you like week one, Yeah, it's in the back 303 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: of your mind. Appreciate it when they get the ball 304 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: out on Sundays. Yeah, we appreciate u. Up. That's why here. 305 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: When they get the ball, then we're up. We're good. 306 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: That's good for us. How do you guys balance just 307 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: being a football player and and just being at home 308 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: during this grind? It really is a grind. Yeah, during camp, 309 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: not much hometome. You know, we're we're here, we're on 310 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: the phone, we go lift, you know, we're doing we 311 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: having meetings before, we're doing meetings out there. And that's 312 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: even like right, like days off for not really days off. 313 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: You're turning days off, right, trying to get right for 314 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: the next year. Guys. You're getting massages, you're stretching are 315 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: nice though, Um, yeah, they're good. But I mean during camp. 316 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's when the probably, the probably that needs 317 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: to be paid. You know, it's done then, you know, 318 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: and it's it's uh what makes teams great that you 319 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: see start to break away from the team week twelve, 320 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen when you win those big time games and 321 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: obviously in playoffs, you know, it all starts here, you know, 322 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: so you know we're doing that. But uh yeah, I 323 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: mean I don't know if you Yeah, it's uh, it's 324 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: a grind, man, it's different. You know, I didn't have 325 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: to go through it really as much last year being 326 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: hurt um. But yeah, shoot, you don't get much home 327 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: life right now. It's uh, but this is what you 328 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: sign up for, man, This is what you sign up for. 329 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: This is what this is what. This is our job. Man. 330 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: You know we have we have the off season for 331 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: a reason and uh you know we're this is we 332 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: gotta walk him for you know hopefully uh what seven 333 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: months right here? Seven months straight and go to February 334 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: and hopefully holding that trophy up at the end of it. Sean, 335 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: what is what has it been like heaven Hunter out 336 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: there had a consistant basis making plays this year? Man? Oh, 337 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: it's it's so cool to see I got chose this 338 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: thing about right now, honestly because you know, obviously we're 339 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: such good friends, and then obviously in this you know, 340 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: being his roommate and this knowing the lows that he 341 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: had and how he took those on in his faith, 342 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: relying on the Lord and everything. I mean, it's so commendable. 343 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: And um, you know he's battled. You know, he put 344 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: everything into last year, into his recovery. I mean, to 345 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: even come back and play last year in a Patriot game, 346 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's amazing. People don't do that, you know. 347 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: So it's a testament to his work and the price 348 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: that he paid for that. And obviously now you know, 349 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: see him out there in practice, it's comfortable, you know, 350 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: make him plays, you know, being doing it be stuff, 351 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he's just the heck of 352 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: the guy. A good teammate him, you know, we're a 353 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: we all love him. Well, you know, we all go 354 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: through stuff, man, and sometimes you think about it in 355 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: a moment you're like, why did this happen to me? 356 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: How how did this happen? You know, is it gonna 357 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: be the same? And then you probably look back, now 358 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: a hunter and you're like, you know what, I'm young. 359 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: It's probably he's gonna make me a better person, right, 360 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna strengthen me mentally. Yeah, and I go out 361 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: there and do what I've always done. Yeah, you don't 362 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: think about it in the moment. You know. I tried to, 363 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: but you still get those those negative thoughts that creep 364 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: in your mind. You try to be as positive as 365 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: you can. Um. My wife helps me out a lot 366 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: on that. I think that was the biggest shoes huge 367 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: for me. And just keeping my mind off of it 368 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: and keep him you know, just keeping positive, you know, 369 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: just keeping keep getting better and better and better. Um. 370 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: And I think these guys pushed me too, you know, 371 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: being around it and and staying out here doing my 372 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: rehab here and just being around the team. It just 373 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to get out there. I was itching to 374 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: get back out there, and so that helped push me 375 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: a lot. Um And just I had such good people 376 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: around me and people to lift me up. So all 377 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: those things helps it. It's it's it's good to look. 378 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm on this side of it. Now go 379 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: down to the other side of it. Was not fun, 380 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: all right, guys. Final thing for you. Appreciate your time. 381 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: This has been an awesome camp in terms of just 382 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: the fans coming out, Like how how was that Monday 383 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: night practice for you guys? That was cool? You know, 384 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: I feel like high school a little bit, or you 385 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: know it did. I think Denzel I was in the 386 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: bus and he's like, man, it feels like a Pop 387 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: Warner game or something, you know, and it's it was weird, 388 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: just like you know, warming up and you're starting to 389 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: see the sun come down and in that like perfect 390 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: time where it was yeah, you know, kind of took 391 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: you back a little bit. Yeah, and took you back 392 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: to those high school days. You know, you can't see. 393 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: The lights weren't too good out here. You could the 394 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: ball is it was hard to see a little bit. 395 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: It wasn't these big lights, right we had like yeah, 396 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: we had had a rolling lights for It's kind of 397 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: a little little everyone, but it man, it's cool, you know. 398 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: That was That's what it was. That's when when we 399 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: were playing just because we love the game. You know, 400 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: we were six, you know, seven year old seven year 401 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: olds and I'm out there playing football, you know, and 402 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: just in the dark after school and uh, you know, 403 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: practice like the Pop Warner day. It's like Denzel said, 404 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: so it was it was fun to kind of go back. 405 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: And obviously it's cool when you have fans out here too. 406 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: You know. Obviously during the week they outwork and everything. Yeah, 407 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how still that they make. They still come, 408 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, the morning, you know they're they're here Shampac exactly. 409 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: You know. It was just like the joint practice with 410 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: the rams Um. A message for those guys, because like 411 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: this is this is a big I think everybody's really 412 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: excited about what happened last year and what's to come, 413 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: what you guys can build off of after that going 414 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: to New England and and seeing what happens in twenty nineteen. 415 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: A message for these fans is we we get rolling here. Yeah, 416 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean we're working, We're doing everything we can. We're 417 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna go out there compete. We appreciate when 418 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: they come and you know, celebrating and support us, you know, 419 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: and we start to we feel it now. You know, 420 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: before it was like you know, coming from transition from 421 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: San Diego to la and it's like, you know, we're 422 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: starting to get that market. But now it's like you 423 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: started to feel it. Yeah, we gotta. We got a good, 424 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: good fan base and you know we love them, and uh, 425 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be a fun, exciting year. Yeah, 426 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: we love it. Man. It pushed us us every day 427 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: and um, you know, it just makes practice a little more, 428 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more fun. Obviously, it's gonna be fun 429 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: even if they're not out here, but uh, it makes 430 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: a little bit extra when they're out here, you know, 431 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: cheering us on and giving us a great atmosphere. So 432 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: it's fun and I know we're all looking forward to 433 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: the season. All right, homework the second there is the 434 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: jack Boys tight ends. Can we get a name? We'll 435 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: think about it. Just think, we'll think about it. Let's 436 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: get some brainstone coming on. Give tweets. Yeah, let's send 437 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: some tweets and some ideas. Guys, I do I mean, 438 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: if you do, if you're calling Virgil the Hulk and four, 439 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta have you have to be superhero. 440 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: We were thinking low Bros. At one point in my man, Yeah, 441 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: I can't do it. He's like, I'm gonna grow it up. 442 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: Why I'm gonna goro it out for a whole year. Wima, 443 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get yeah, wife gone, you gotta do it 444 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: for the nickname flows like flow Bros. I love flow Bros. 445 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: I just can't do it. Man, I'm fro Bross Brave Storm. 446 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: Help us out here. Thanks, guys, appreciate you all right. 447 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: Joined by an old friend, an old pal from the 448 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: NFL network, Dave Damashek. I don't know if you remember this, 449 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: but the Chargers in twenty seventeen were oh and four 450 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: and we needed somebody to come on the podcast a 451 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: little encouragement. And I was in Culver City Hedge in 452 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: a conference room and we talked this thing out and 453 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: you saw what happened nine and seven to finish the year. Coincidence, 454 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, yeah, big coincident. You have been 455 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: a star supporter of the Chargers over the last couple 456 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: of years, and uh, I haven't seen you a while, buddy. 457 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: How are you. I'm well, and uh it's a pleasure 458 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: to see you and uh please to see your your rise, 459 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: your inevitable rise on the sports media ranks. Pee, I listen, 460 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: this is for real and they're not doing this out 461 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: of bias. This is when we're just kibbitts in one 462 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: on one, No none of the hot lights around or 463 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: any of that. That's when you get to know the 464 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: real Matt money Smith and the real Daniel Jeremiah. And 465 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: they both will tell you individually, Oh, Chris is Chris 466 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: is headed for the stars? Those guys did they did 467 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: they tell you about what they do to my chair? Yeah? 468 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: They tell you when I when I fall asleep, they 469 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: order ten pounds of spaghetti. Yeah, and insist that they did. 470 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: But if they if they didn't care about you, they 471 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. You know. How great is it that 472 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: they're together with the Chargers. Man, That makes it for 473 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: me because they're They're broadcasts are hilarious and it's an 474 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: extension of the network too. It's it really is. And 475 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I'm I'm vain, so I like knowing those two. 476 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: And I also know Maurice Jones, Drew and Jblong on 477 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: the other side. So really, what a great time we 478 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: would have in Miami if we could get both LA 479 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: teams to collide in early February. Telling you it's not 480 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: outside the realm of possibilities. Oh no, you know what, 481 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is bold, but I would 482 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: say in twenty nineteen, the Chargers are more likely to 483 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl than the Rams are. It's 484 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: one of those things where you're twelve and four, you 485 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: have a lot of the same guys coming back. The 486 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: roster's deep. There's not a lot of turnover, not a 487 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: lot of splashy stuff that happened in the off season. 488 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: But I think that's a good thing, right. I think 489 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: the two biggest things day for me. You're bringing a 490 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: guy like Tyrod Taylor, Philip you know, knock on wood. 491 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: He doesn't miss starts. But when you have a roster 492 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: this talented to have a guy like Dad as an 493 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: insurance policy, I guess if you will. I mean, that's 494 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: a big deal. And then Thomas Davis coming in here. 495 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: Every single person, his name comes up in every conversation 496 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: I have with an offensive or defensive player, and they say, 497 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: this guy runs around lake. He's nineteen years old, twenty 498 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: four years old. And the leadership that he's already brought. 499 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean, those two guys not a lot of moves 500 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: in the off season, but they've made a big deal. Yeah. 501 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: I mean, to me, the thing that I that over 502 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks as I focus in on 503 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: the AFC, it's funny because the home story dominated pretty 504 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: much all of pro football. I mean, there were some 505 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: nice stories around it, but obviously the MVP in the 506 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: big splash in his sophomore year and everything this season 507 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: to meet in the AFC is it seems like it's 508 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: all about defense. There's so I mean there and then 509 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: if everybody has a good defense, if you know, applying 510 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: as I like to do the uh what was his 511 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: name in uh in the Incredibles, I can't think of 512 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 1: what it was, but he says, if everyone is super, 513 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: no one is, so you're keeping up with the Jones 514 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: is to have a dominant defense. That being said, the 515 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: Chargers might have the best defense in the in the 516 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: conference this year, but they also have an offense. I 517 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: mean that the combo of I mean could Digs in 518 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: theel and be replaced by Alan and Williams this year. 519 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: I mean, and just throw in a healthy Hunter Henry. 520 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy, um how loaded this team is. 521 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: And I know that I'm sure there's some handwringing about 522 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: running back, but we have learned, you know, we'll see 523 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: with if you know, the delightful Melvin Gordon, and he 524 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: is sincerely delightful, but I mean, I do think that 525 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: you can. It's not like the Chargers, even as currently constituted, 526 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: are bereft of talent in the backfield. So I think, 527 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like the sky's the limit in 528 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: what feels like to me a really rugged AFC. I mean, 529 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: the whole AFC South is defense, and that's the distinction 530 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: in your division against the Chiefs. They'll be improved, but 531 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: they're not gonna have a defense and transition, right, Yeah, 532 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: you go from a three four to a four three 533 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: with a lot of new pieces. But you bring up 534 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: a good point because there's so many variables during the 535 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: course of an NFL season, health being one of them. 536 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: And you know, is the offense of the defense going 537 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: to rise to the occasion, And when you have an 538 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: offense in a defense that are you know, I want 539 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: to say, I'd say top five probably for both. Right, 540 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't seem hyperbolic to me that they both could 541 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: be top five. I don't think so. And if the 542 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: defense has a tough day, the offense can pick each 543 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: other up and vice versa. But I think from an 544 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: injury and a health standpoint, when you have a roster 545 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: that's deep, um, there's gonna be a lot of good 546 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: guys in this secondary that probably won't make this team 547 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: because there's there's four All pros. They're already you know 548 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's it's interesting to me how 549 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks you're gonna shake out. But 550 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: to have a deep roster, especially in the AFC where 551 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: everybody's chasing the Patriots, you're gonna need that. You're gonna 552 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: be healthy bodies, especially in December. I mean that it's 553 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: not fun thing to talk about. Obviously, the Chargers had 554 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: more than their share of curses imposed upon them by 555 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: the football gods over the last half decade, so hopefully 556 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: you guys get a break in that regard. But yeah, 557 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean, just from a practical standpoint, the pass rush. 558 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: That's the thing everybody loves to talk, especially in August about, 559 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: like you know what you need to have if you 560 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: want to go to the Super Bowl. I've really looked 561 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: hard at this because a lot of it is it's 562 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: nice to have the dominant number one wide receiver, and 563 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: you may have one or two of those. That's not essential. 564 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: Do you need to have the high end superstar running back? 565 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: Not essential? Nice to have the two things that define 566 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: it are the quarterback. More often than I mean, look 567 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: look through the twenty first century. The teams that get 568 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowls with a you know, there are 569 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: a couple of exceptions that prove this rule are the 570 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: teams that have top eight quarterbacks and control the lines 571 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and certainly and specifically with the pass rush 572 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: if you can. I mean the Eagles two years ago. 573 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: You see how far they could get with that pass rush. 574 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: They even that's why they that's basically why they were 575 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: able to vanquish the Mighty Patriots and that Super Bowls 576 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: because they could heat up Brady. So you have that, 577 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: and you know, you'd like to see Denzel Perryman stay 578 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: out there and healthy because he's really when he's out 579 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: these things up in the run game, oh man, he's 580 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: I mean, he's yeah, that neck is crazy, though, you know, 581 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: the way he can assist with shutting down the run. 582 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: And then on the back end. I love Casey Hayward. 583 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: I love the talent back there. But Derwin James to 584 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: me is top five defender in the NFL right now, 585 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: already at twenty three years old. You could see that coming. 586 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 1: I like to Pat myself on the back and I 587 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: said best player in the draft in uh in twenty eighteen, 588 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: and he made me look good on that one. I've 589 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: talked about this d nauseam, the defect that he went 590 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: at seventeen. I think we'll never know why that happened. 591 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: I as a as a Steelers fan, once it got 592 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: to about fourteen fifteen, I started half fantasy. It's like, 593 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: come on, let's trade up and get that guy, because 594 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: that he is He's going to be everything for some team. 595 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: And that's what he was. I mean, he you know 596 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: in the can pass rush, you know, obviously as a 597 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: beast of a hitter and then uh, you know drops it. 598 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean it's he's remarkable in these one season in well, 599 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: the Steelers guy, one of the Edmunds brothers that Terrell right, 600 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: and then his brother went to Buffalo. He was the 601 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: one that I thought I was either going to be 602 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: him or Durwin. And when Derwin was available, I was like, Oh, 603 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be number thirty three. You get number 604 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: thirty three there. That was Neat didn't to talk to 605 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa earlier today it is uh, I mean, can 606 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: you imagine having a sibling in the NFL. How crazy 607 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: that must be? And I was with Uh, I was 608 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: with uh Terrell's brother, talking to him when Tremaine, when 609 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: Terrell got drafted and Terrell was not supposed to go 610 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: in the first was not And I was literally interviewing 611 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: Tremaine as Terrell's face popped up on the screen. And 612 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: so my brother just got drafted, and he was so excited, 613 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: more excited than he was even for himself, because I 614 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: sort of respect. So you were interviewing Tremaine, Yeah, it was, 615 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: it was. It was such a great moment um, and Uh, 616 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: I was happy for Tremaine and for the family. And 617 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: then it hit me just like it did with Joey 618 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: bosa Um then his brothers in the NFL. Now too, 619 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: what what? What a humongous disappointment my sisters and I 620 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: must be to my parents. You know, none of us 621 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: are in the NFL. None of us play any five 622 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: picks less right, Yeah, it's not like it's not like 623 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: Joey and Nick were, you know, third round picks, second 624 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: round picks, top five I you know what if I were, 625 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: if I were more or man than I am, except 626 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: with it just yapping all the time I would have 627 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: told Joey. I forgot to mention it to him. Actually, 628 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: I declared when the Chargers drafted him, oh that was 629 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: a bad pick. He was a passenger on that Ohio 630 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: State team. He was you could never tell. It was 631 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: like you just spoke to him too. I really wish 632 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: I would have said that to him, because I I 633 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: legitimately forgot to ask him about or mentioned that to 634 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: who did you? Was it a Jalen Ramsey? Don't you 635 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: prefer jal was it was Zeke? Jalen Ramsey? Who else 636 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: was in that? Is that how it went? It was? 637 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: It was the two quarterbacks, right, It was Wentz and 638 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: Golf and Wentz and then I think it went Joey. 639 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: Then I think it went Zeke. Done. I think with 640 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey? Is that how it went? Think so? So? 641 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: I think Jalen Ramsey was the guy that a lot 642 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: of people wanted. But it's it's pretty funny now you 643 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: look at twenty nineteene, it's pretty good to have number 644 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: ninety seven. Well, you never know because it was, you know, 645 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: living here when Matt Leiner and Reggie Bush and all 646 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: those guys were on one team. It was hard to distinguish. 647 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: So wait, who's making whom look good? Ye out there? 648 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: And I thought, wow, listen, maybe Bosa's is along for 649 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: the ride there. And I want to say, because I'm 650 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: not man enough to say it to you face to face. Sorry, Joey. Sorry. 651 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: Keep in mind this conversation took place about ten minutes 652 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: after Dave talked to Joey face to face, right, So 653 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: this is afterwards. Yeah, we got on famously though, for 654 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: mostly because I didn't bring that up to him. How 655 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: to go? How to go with the Joel you have? 656 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: Joey ightful? Yeah, and Mike Williams too, too delightful fellas 657 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: you know that's good. I like it's It's uh makes 658 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: me maybe on some level a simpleton, but I like 659 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: to root for teams that have nice guys on it, 660 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: and the Chargers are chock full of them. Love Ingram. 661 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: Ingram's a funny guy. That's fun. He's entertaining a lot 662 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: of entertainee. Hayward's delightful is as delightful as it gets. 663 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: And you have now Baker Mayfield is rising up. We'll 664 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: see how long he can sustain this. I'm cocky and 665 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't care who knows it kind of kind of 666 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: swagger thing. But Phil Rivers is the only guy who's 667 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: tenured in the league who doesn't comport himself like he's 668 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: a senatorial handidate, you know, among quarterbacks everybody else. Oh 669 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: shame the devil that you would have a personality and 670 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: you would say anything. Oh, it'll wind up on a 671 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: bulletin board and people will misconstrue it. I love that 672 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: Phil Rivers shoot from the hip like apologetic about it too. 673 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: I think it's the greatest. There's nothing wrong with a 674 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: little bit of heat and rivalry and everything else. I 675 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: still pine for the John with Jake Cutler back in 676 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: the early early part of his career. That was a 677 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: great I was just talking to Hunter and he said 678 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: that there's the same drop. Well, it's a it was 679 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: a it's a segue, Dave, because we just had Hunter 680 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: on Okay. He said that every time, and he doesn't 681 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: drop passes often, but if he does drop a pass, 682 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: the weights a little heavier when it's from seventeen and 683 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: you don't want to do it again because you don't 684 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: want to let him down. And I think that's just 685 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: a testament to who philipiz as a competitor. I mean, 686 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: it's his personality is infectious, but just he demands perfection 687 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: out of himself. So if somebody else makes a mistake, 688 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to let seventeen down. You don't what 689 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: is he's in your sixteen you know. I know he's 690 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: been great, and I think that he is a Hall 691 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: of famer. Um. I would like if maybe you could 692 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: arrange it, if I could do like just even like 693 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: a half day, ideally like a two day session. I 694 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: would really like to clean up that throwing motion. I 695 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: think I could really I mean, I could take his 696 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: game to another level. Yeah, you know, because you guys 697 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: that like you know that that thing. Have you ever 698 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: noticed you ever noticed how you throw the ball? You notice? Yeah? Yeah? 699 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: So so I like it to be out in the open. 700 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: I could really help him, you know, give him a good, nice, 701 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: strong delivery, and I think he'll really ascend. There's time. 702 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: I think there's still time. Okay, good, yeah mea. I'll 703 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: leave it to I'll wait, I'll leave my phone on. 704 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: I'll take your call, Dave. This time. I'll get you 705 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: out here on this bed. I need your your take 706 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: on the afc um not Steve C. West but like 707 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: I said, everybody's kind of chasing the Patriots. Your Steelers 708 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: are in a unique situation. Um, the AFC North is 709 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: very intriguing to me with the Browns, and I think 710 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: people are not talking about the Ravens as much as 711 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: maybe they should be. How do you view this division? 712 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: You know we're in mid August now, but it seems 713 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: to be kind of wide open. Well, I'll start by 714 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: saying Maurice Jones. Drew was on my show earlier this 715 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: week and he said, beware the Bengals. I said, we 716 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: don't have time to talk about the Bengals, so this 717 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: is a three horse race. But he made a fairly 718 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: compelling argument. Okay, let's leave them aside. Though, although who knows, 719 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: because did he do this on your show. I'll listen 720 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: to this he did. I'm I'd like to figure out 721 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: what the arguments are. Well, I you know, he just 722 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: was impressed by eyeballing them, which is which is what 723 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: he does that so many people do. They go and 724 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: they see a team and say it's the Hard Knocks syndrome. 725 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: You watch Hard Knocks almost any year and you come 726 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: away with it because you have a focus on that 727 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: one team that well, I don't know how that team 728 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: doesn't go to the super Bowl. You just buy into 729 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: what you're the narrative that's laid out in front of you, 730 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: and I think maybe he is he got bitten by that, 731 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: although I will say, you know, you think about the 732 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: other team in LA you go from one to another, 733 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: and magically they're just they're they're transformed. And that happens 734 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL sometimes sometimes a fresh voice can turn 735 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: things around. And they do have some pieces. But okay, 736 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: let's too much Bengals talk here. Bengals Weekly. Yeah, we 737 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: don't want that. I think that it is a fascinating 738 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: talk talk about a great storyline, mythical, almost Shakespearean. I 739 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: guess is that just ass the division bully? You know, 740 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: the would be dynasty, the occasional Steelers dynasty is, according 741 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: to many people, on the decline. Now you know, they 742 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: can't they don't. They didn't manage two of their stars 743 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: and now they're gone, and maybe they're dinosaurs in the 744 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: way they approach pro football in the twenty first century 745 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: and they need an overhaul. We'll see if that happens. 746 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: But if that decline happens, just as the rise of 747 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: the Browns, which so many people are saying is essentially 748 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: play that'll be fascinating by itself, or if both of 749 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 1: those teams are good, they play twice in a three 750 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: week span in late November ear League December, that'll be 751 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: compelling stuff obviously as well. But then there is the 752 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: curveball of the Ravens and the way not just that 753 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: they're the reigning champs, but also the style of ball 754 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: that they're um presumably gonna play now that they're with 755 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. And I can't wait to see it, 756 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I'm not a Ravens fan obviously, 757 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: and I hope the Steelers win the division. But man, 758 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: I since I was a kid, I've said, why can't 759 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: Why doesn't one team try the option? Why? And we've 760 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: seen shades of it with the RPL and you know, 761 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: even direct snap to the running back and everything. But 762 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: this is going to be full on option Big eight 763 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: Nebraska Oklahoma style. So they drafted Hollywood Brown, I know, 764 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: wild that's and that's kind of the wild card in 765 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: this too. It's like him streaking down a few how 766 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: how is how are all these pieces going to met? 767 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: Somebody has to follow him? Yeah, well Lamar Jackson can't throw. Yeah, 768 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: but you still have to cover the fast guy right 769 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: who's behind everybody, in front of everybody. He So you're 770 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: going to have to respect that to some degree at least. 771 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: And uh and so I'll be interested to see if 772 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 1: you remember, remember about five years ago at the height 773 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: of the Seahawks would be dynasty that they were um 774 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: that the record in the week following a game against 775 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: the Seahawks because of how physically they would play, the 776 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: teams had a had a disproportionately low winning percentage. I 777 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: think at minimum that's gonna happen if you play that 778 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: Baltimore offense. I think the defense is gonna be beat 779 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: up for the following week because they're just not gonna 780 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: be accustomed to doing that. And if anything, I mean, 781 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not a defensive coordinator, but I 782 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: think the adjustment to NFL offense is they're like, oh, yeah, 783 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: we're playing We're playing Jamal Holloway's eighty five Oklahoma offense 784 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: this week. I mean, how are you supposed to get 785 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: ready for that, like change everything you know about play 786 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: in pro football and do it this way this week? 787 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: I don't know. Does that work? Is that sustainable for 788 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens. I can't wait to see how that experiment 789 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: works out. At the end of the day, though, I 790 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: would like to see the Steelers get back and I'll 791 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: see you and I'll see your friends Matt money Smith 792 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: and Daniel Jeremiah and I'll see Phil Rivers and I'll 793 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: see everybody else Week six at the soccer Stadium Dignity, 794 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: and I'm bringing I'm bringing the towel with me, Dave. 795 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of terrible tiles waving. Don't 796 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: get full bolts. That gold ain't for you, It's for 797 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: the Picksburgh Stailers. DDFP promote the show Dave the Day 798 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: Damna Check Football program with stars like Maurice Jones, Drew 799 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: Matt money Smith is a regular on it. We love 800 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: Kibbitson with all the fellas who are around there playing 801 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: in the league, getting to know them as people as 802 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: well as football players. And obviously you've been a guest 803 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: on there as well. Yeah, right have you? I think so, 804 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 1: I've been. I've been involved in some former fashion there 805 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Let's let's put an invite to you in 806 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: pencil somewhere because I want that to happen. All Right, 807 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: we'll get you back, man, looking forward to it, all right. Thanks, 808 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: all right, guys, that's gonna do it. A big thanks 809 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: to Dave Damn a check Hunter, Henry Sean Colkin for 810 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: joining me, and of course thanks to you all for listening. 811 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: If you like the podcast, be sure to subscribe on 812 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts and why are you there? Give us a 813 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: rating and review, help spread the word. We'll be back 814 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: later in the week from joint practices with the New 815 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. Until next time, I'm Chris Heyrey