1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning everybody, It's the j n V, Jess, 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Hilarie Charlamagne, the guy. 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. You got a special guest 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 3: in the building. 6 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed got. 7 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 3: The brother skills. 8 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: What up? Man? 9 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 4: Are you feeling? 10 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: You know? Same? 11 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 5: It's different air freshener, Yeah, I mean just trying to 12 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 5: keep it pushing. 13 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 3: Have you retired the wrap up? So do you have 14 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: to do like because you gotta break it. 15 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: I mean the year it's a little easier, but it's 16 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: just diddy, But do you do the wrap up? 17 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 5: Still haven't done the wrap up since like twenty I 18 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 5: think the last one was twenty twenty two. For two years, 19 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 5: so yeah, like two I stopped after like two years. 20 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 5: I think I did the last one over like holes 21 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 5: like on Core. I promoted it as like the last one, 22 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 5: and then after that, I just I had a chill 23 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 5: December like that song used to take up so much 24 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 5: of my life at the end of the year, bro, 25 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 5: I ain't didn't get to do Christmas shopping. 26 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Go you know what I mean? Put up nothing. 27 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 6: You gotta go from January all the way, like all 28 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 6: the eventful things that happen. 29 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 7: Oh you you're gonna have to do this ship. This 30 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 7: shit is crazy. 31 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 5: People say that every year though, they like, you got 32 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 5: to do one this ship, And I'm like, actually, I 33 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 5: don't you know what I mean? 34 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 4: Did you know Murder have real issues over there? 35 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: Nah? 36 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 5: Nah, No, it was just like it was just fun. 37 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 5: It was, you know what I mean, Like I never 38 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 5: I never ran in the murder or nothing. And even 39 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 5: if I did, we probably would have just looked at 40 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 5: himself and started laughing, you know what I mean, Like, 41 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 5: I know, he a character and that's what he do. 42 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 4: Imagine deeping over a wrap up should collaborated one. 43 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: Though, that's you know who said that first? 44 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 5: Clock Kent? 45 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: Really why Kent was the first person that said that. 46 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 5: And actually this year, after you know, Clock passed, I 47 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 5: did think about it, you know what I mean, like 48 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 5: that he asked me to do that, you know what 49 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 5: I mean. In twenty eighteen, I was super stubborn, still 50 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 5: battle rap mode. I was like, nah, I never do that, 51 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 5: But then after Clock passed, I actually thought about it. 52 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 4: Y'all still got time, gotcha listen. 53 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 5: I just I just ain't gonna rap as long as him. 54 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 5: I'm three minutes in and our attention spans too. Sure 55 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 5: you gonna go fifteen minutes, Like, I ain't rapping that long. 56 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 7: Nobody, y'all got fourteen days left. 57 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: He got fourteen days. He on the clock. 58 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 8: Congratulations to being nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Spoken. 59 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: Word Poetry Album. Thank you? 60 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 4: What is that? What's that? 61 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 8: It's a stupid question, but to you, as a rapper, 62 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 8: rappers are poets. 63 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 4: What is the difference between poetry and rap? At least 64 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: from the. 65 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 5: Great on once you take the music out, you know 66 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 5: what I mean, it's it's it's poetry, you know what 67 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 5: I mean. I feel like all MC's are poets. So 68 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 5: you know, the Grammy had it in a category before 69 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 5: where it was a lot of other things happening in 70 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 5: the same category. So maybe like a poetry album or 71 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 5: spoken word album would be in the same category as 72 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 5: like somebody reading the children's book and shout out to 73 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 5: the brother j Ivy j Ivy who won last year. 74 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 5: Yeah he he kind of advocated for it and let 75 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 5: them know, like, yo, this is different, Like we shouldn't 76 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 5: be competing against Barack Obama reading his book like we 77 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 5: ain't go that's not spoken words. So he pushed forward 78 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 5: to be its own category. Now it stands on its 79 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 5: own and I got nominated this year. So it's wild, 80 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 5: it's crazy, go up against it's me. I want to say, 81 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 5: Malik yusef omar o'mary got one. I can't remember who 82 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 5: else is in Mary Harwick. Yeah, Mari Harward got one 83 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 5: old Queen Sheba. 84 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: And and an amazing artist named Tank from Tank in 85 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: the Bankers. 86 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 4: Many How many times have you been nominating for Grammy? 87 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 5: I got nominated once as a writer when we did 88 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 5: the Nikki album The Pink Print in twenty fifteen, but 89 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 5: I think we lost to Kendrick that year. But this 90 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 5: is the first time I've ever been nominated as mad Skills. 91 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: Now you got to say exactly because people are gonna 92 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: take that. 93 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 5: Like I wrote a hook, I wrote the Night is 94 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 5: Still Young, and I did that with like Tehran est 95 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 5: Dein like it was like three of us. 96 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: Nikki Nikki write all her bass, all her boss. Now 97 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: we lost. I think we lost the Ka that year. 98 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 4: So what would win the Grammy mean for you? 99 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 5: Oh man, listen, it would change my life and just 100 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 5: you know, for the creatives in Virginia. Man, who are 101 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 5: you know? Doing their thing and just pushing the culture forward. 102 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 5: It like we always talk about Philly and va Is 103 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 5: being like the red headed step child in the music industry, 104 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But we collaborated a lot, 105 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 5: so it would mean a lot, man. And this is 106 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 5: probably my most personal project today. I ain't never been 107 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 5: this person of my music. And I almost wasn't even 108 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 5: gonna put it out. Wow, And my wife was like, no, 109 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 5: you should. You should really put this out, and I 110 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 5: was like, bad, it's too personal, Like I don't you 111 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 5: know how we I'm like, man, I don't need everybody 112 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 5: knowing my business like so to be rapping for thirty years. 113 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 5: And then the first time I really get personal and 114 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 5: vulnerable on the project, it get nominated for a GRAMM. 115 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: Crazy. 116 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 8: What made you want to do a poetry album versus 117 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 8: a traditional hip hop? Alb especially saying that she was 118 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 8: getting so personal right. 119 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 5: I started it And when I started at it, the 120 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 5: first two songs was like raps, but they were so 121 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 5: I was I was moving like and I was like, 122 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 5: I gotta slow this down. I want people to be 123 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 5: able to digest this. So I tried it another way. 124 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 5: And then once I started sending the song around there 125 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 5: like friends. They was like yo, nah, keep going. And 126 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 5: the song the album is called the Seven Number Ones, 127 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 5: and it's about seven things that happened in my life 128 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 5: that literally changed the direction of my life. So the 129 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 5: first song was like my parents meeting. The second song 130 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 5: was when my mom used to play music around the house, 131 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 5: my first love, you know what I mean, my first 132 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 5: daughter being born. 133 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 8: So it's all first and that's how the album came about. 134 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 8: Is about my parents. Yes, you got your grandma featured. 135 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: On Yes, which is crazy. 136 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 5: So if I went to Grammy, like my grandma would 137 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 5: get you know what I mean, a participation plaque like 138 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 5: so to be at ninety seven years old, you know 139 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 5: what I mean. So yeah, I used to sit down 140 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 5: with her and I never knew how my parents met. 141 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 5: So I just had a phone and just throw it 142 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 5: down and record her just so I could go back 143 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 5: and listen to it later. And I put it on 144 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 5: the album and it's like the hooks. So my grandma 145 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 5: is actually featured on the first song. 146 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 8: Didn't that The crazy thing? How much we don't know 147 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 8: about our parents. Yes, they had a whole life before us, 148 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 8: but we don't ever sit down and talk to him 149 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 8: about it. 150 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Yes, man, it was. 151 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 5: It was therapeutic for me to learn because my mother 152 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 5: died of a drug overdose, like a heroin overdose, like 153 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: when I was like thirty three maybe, So it wasn't 154 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 5: until like American Gangster came out and I watched it 155 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 5: and I remember seeing them going back and forth bringing 156 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 5: the work from Vietnam and my stepfather, I mean, my 157 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 5: father went to Vietnam. 158 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: So I made the connection, like damn, my father was 159 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 1: the person who. 160 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 5: Turned my mom on to that, and they died thirty 161 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 5: years later, like to the day. So it was just weird, 162 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 5: but to not have that but then to realize it later, 163 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 5: so yeah, man, it's a real thing. The album is crazy. 164 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 5: It's definitely very introspective and vulnerable. 165 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 6: And then it's also very personal. The track about your 166 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 6: parents because it's how they passed his try that they 167 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 6: both died from drug over there. 168 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, both died from a drug overdose. And when 169 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 5: I was little, they was like, oh, you know, your 170 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 5: father died from a heart attack. But then later on 171 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 5: as I got older, like they was real with me 172 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 5: and they told me what happened. 173 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 7: And was this the most emotional track? 174 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, that one and the one about my daughter, Like 175 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 5: I literally said, you know, I played my daughter's songs 176 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 5: all the time. Like I posted a video the other day, 177 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 5: like of her getting in the car and I wanted 178 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 5: to play the song. So as soon as I get 179 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 5: in the car, I play the song. I'm guarant played 180 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 5: the song. She's like, yo, I watched someone play something. 181 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 5: She said, did you do a wrap up? And I 182 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 5: was like, nah, it's kind of a wrap up, but 183 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 5: it's about you, you know what I mean. So I 184 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 5: played it for and I always got cameras around, so 185 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 5: I had to go pro and the dash or whatever, 186 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 5: and I'm taping her reaction. And then I showed it 187 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 5: to a couple of friends and he was like My 188 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 5: man was like, oh, you should do a video for this. 189 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 5: And I was like, bro, this is the video like 190 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 5: me and her sitting in the car listening to how 191 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 5: I Because I was scared when I first I was nineteen, Yeah, 192 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 5: I was nineteen. 193 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: That was nineteen years old. I was skying you know 194 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: what to do? You know what I mean? 195 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 5: So to see her now as an adult and to 196 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 5: be able to flourish in life, that's all you want 197 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 5: for your kids. She's thirty one there thirty one. Yeah, 198 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 5: So we said that call me in and I'm a 199 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 5: cry and I'm a cry about my kids. As soon 200 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 5: as the glasses came up, everybody was like, oh, I 201 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 5: know you about to cry. And I'm like, man, listen, 202 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 5: if it's something I'm gonna cry about, it's gonna be 203 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 5: my kids. 204 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 205 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: Do you have those conversations with your daughter that you 206 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: never had what your parents about? 207 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 5: Yes, you do have this cond yes, And I try 208 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 5: to make sure that my kids know things about my 209 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 5: life and early on in my life, I wasn't perfect. 210 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 5: I was a mistake. I made mistakes. I was a 211 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 5: young father. But to be able to move forward. 212 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 8: And learn from those mistakes, those are things that helped 213 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 8: me in my life. 214 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: Now those mean a lot because I do that with 215 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: my kids. So I try to talk about everything that happened, 216 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: especially my parents' is a lot. 217 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 3: But like if you talk about I don't. 218 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: Even know how my parents. 219 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: Met, right, but I just think about it like I 220 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: just didn't think about it. 221 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: But my kids know that. You know, whatever how you 222 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: and your wife dad is right? 223 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 6: Are you taking more personal when people critique tracks like 224 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 6: this that are so personal to you. 225 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: No, not really. 226 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 5: I mean, once you put art into the world, it's 227 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 5: gonna get critiqued, you know what I mean. Period, I 228 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 5: always felt like whatever it is, once you put a 229 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 5: song out, people have the option to either say, Yo, 230 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 5: that's fire, that's trash, you know what I mean. But 231 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 5: for me, this project has been able to connect with 232 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 5: people in a way that a lot of my rap 233 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 5: albums never did because people are like, Yo, I listened 234 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 5: to your project and I thought about my number one 235 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 5: like you know what I mean, Like like you thinking 236 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 5: about the first time you started djaying, and you thinking 237 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 5: about I want to be on radio, Yo, I want 238 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 5: to be a comedian. 239 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 240 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 5: Like those moments stick with us, like I could ask you, 241 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 5: like I can ask all y'all, Yo, what you was 242 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 5: doing Like November nineth, nineteen ninety four. You probably like, 243 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 5: I don't remember, and I'd be like, Yo, where was 244 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 5: you the first time you heard ill Matic? And you 245 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 5: bet yo, I was in my Man Carbs High School? 246 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. The music attaches to the memory. 247 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 7: I mean, I was two years old, so I don't 248 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 7: know what I was doing. 249 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably something with a bottle. 250 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. 251 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 8: I definitely remember the first time I was heard imadic. 252 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 8: That was a good question from j just though, because 253 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 8: it's like somebody is different. Somebody be like yo that 254 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 8: but no whack yo. 255 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 5: Right yeah yeah, nah, yeah you're talking about I get it. 256 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 5: And that's the reason why you can't dive too deep 257 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 5: into the comments. And I saw somebody yeah it was 258 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 5: kind of corny, and I'm like, all right, cool. It 259 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 5: ain't for you, you know what I mean, But for 260 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 5: me it was super therapeutic. I was still go right, 261 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 5: not as much as I used to, just because the 262 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 5: music now is a little different. 263 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I can get in that bag easy. 264 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 5: But the calls don't come as much from the younger 265 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 5: artists because they want to keep all of they publishing 266 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 5: and all of they I still get calls from some 267 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 5: of the ogs, but you know, I just I mean, 268 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 5: put the pen to the paper. 269 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 8: However, you ever have ideas for artists like you see 270 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 8: that you love and you like I have songs, and 271 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 8: I'll be like, yo, like I have I have songs 272 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 8: like complete verses and hooks, and I'll be like, yo, 273 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 8: this would be perfect on this person. 274 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: This to be perfect on this verson, but sometimes we 275 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 5: won't have the same vision. So I hold on to 276 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 5: songs a lot and just sit on them, and you know, 277 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 5: we just we just do what we do. But I 278 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 5: never want to die with the art in me, all 279 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 5: stuff on a hard drive, you know what I mean. 280 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: I want to put it out. 281 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, you know, with all the writing 282 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: that you've done, how lucrative is publishing? Did you get 283 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: all the publishing that was deserved or a lot of 284 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: times they just gave you a check and say you're 285 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: not gettingne of that published. 286 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 5: In the beginning, I mean, yeah, yeah, in the beginning, 287 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 5: most of it was like you know, quick little bags here, 288 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, brown paper bag money. Then 289 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 5: I learned about publishing later and how lucrative that could be, 290 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 5: but I never did a publishing deal, So for me, 291 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 5: I always I always was able to wait for my money, 292 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 5: like nobody was able to dangle, you know what I mean, 293 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 5: a couple hundred thousand in front of me, and I'm like, 294 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 5: I gotta get that now, because I'm like I can 295 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 5: wait six months for mine, you know what I mean, 296 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 5: because when it come, I know it's going to be 297 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 5: more than that, and there's so many stipulations on publishing 298 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 5: now and this, that and the third. 299 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, I don't really want to you 300 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 301 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 5: I never really wanted to wait, wait, like take a 302 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 5: loan from them and then just have to deal with 303 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 5: the paying them back. 304 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I wait for my bread is it's. 305 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 8: Still an unwritten rule that ghost riders aren't supposed to 306 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 8: talk about who they rolle for because it's not taboo 307 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 8: no more for people to have. 308 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, it's not really you know, I don't, 309 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 5: but you know what I mean, I never really revealed. 310 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: Well I won't say I never really revealed, but. 311 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 5: I make more money when they ain't nobody talking about ghosts, right, 312 00:11:59,320 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? 313 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: Oh, And if people work with me, they know. 314 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 5: Most of the time, I just ain't gonna throw them 315 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 5: out there under the bus for no reason. 316 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: But sometimes people just know about it. They be like, oh, 317 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: I know you wrote that. 318 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 5: Earlier this year, I did a show in Virginia and 319 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 5: I actually performed the song that I wrote, and then 320 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 5: it was in like a McDonald's campaign, like maybe like 321 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 5: a month later, and people was like. 322 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: Oh, you wrote that, And I was like, I've been 323 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: wrote that, you know what I mean. 324 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 6: I feel like a lot of rappers these days, a 325 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 6: lot of younger rappers, they feel like they lose credibility 326 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 6: if somebody, if they if it gets out there, then 327 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 6: somebody goes writing for them. 328 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean sometimes you just in the studio and 329 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 5: it's just help. You're like, yo, what if you say 330 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 5: it like this? 331 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 332 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 5: Like even like like like for instance, my homeboy KP 333 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 5: k KP the Great he ended up on Kendrick's alright, 334 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 5: but only because Pharrell was like, you know, we gonna 335 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 5: be all right, And he was like, Yo, I think 336 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 5: you should say it like we gonna be all right. 337 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: He was like really, he was like, yeah, it just 338 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: sounds slim. Get that way. You got writing credit. Gotta 339 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: grant me like he just told him how to. 340 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 5: He just took something as small as Pharrell saying it 341 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 5: one way and for real being you know in siund 342 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 5: minded body going yo, KP told me to do that. 343 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: He's owed some credit off. 344 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: That's why because most people wouldn't have did that, would 345 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: have said I got said wait, it gave a little checking, you. 346 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: Know what I mean. But but and That's the thing 347 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: about it. 348 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 5: To be able to be in a room and collaborate 349 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 5: with your friends, you know what I mean, and make 350 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 5: something dope with your family and your friends. You don't 351 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 5: care about the credit because like like Quincy Jones always 352 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 5: sad when y'all start talking about money, God lead the 353 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 5: room anyway, I agree. 354 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 355 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 5: So you we ain't here arking about something that we 356 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 5: ain't even made no money over yet. 357 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: Like what's the point. It stops the creative process. 358 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 8: When when you hear people that you when you wrote 359 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 8: for somebody, and then you hear people say that person. 360 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 4: Is the goat you ever be like, I listen, actually the. 361 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: I put I put it to you. I put it 362 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: to you like this. 363 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 5: Sometimes I always say, like, you know, if I fix 364 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 5: people's roofs on they houses, and people was like, oh, 365 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 5: I like his roof, I like his roof, his roof 366 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 5: is dope, And I'm like, they ain't even seen my roof, 367 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 5: And I'm cool with that. But hopefully if I did 368 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 5: my business right from making all these roofs, I got 369 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 5: a nice roof too, you know what I mean. 370 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: Just look at it that way. 371 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 8: How did you get the opportunity to write jay Z's 372 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 8: rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction. 373 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 5: That came from Questlove. He called me and he asked me. 374 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 5: It was weird how he said it. I just I 375 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 5: was in a barbershop. 376 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: I picked the phone. He was like, Yo, when's the 377 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: last When did you stop listening the whole? I was 378 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: like what? He was like, when did you stop listening 379 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: to jay Z? I was like what you mean? He 380 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: was like, I heard you say before. 381 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 5: Like back in the day, like you would be able 382 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 5: to hear jay Z verse or a line that you 383 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 5: could just quote it, Like when did you stop? And 384 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 5: I was like, I said maybe the last thing I 385 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 5: might have checked out. I was like four four four 386 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. 387 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 8: He was like, all right, cool, I need I need 388 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 8: you to do your thing, but the way you do it, 389 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 8: like wrap up style, but with like all of the 390 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 8: quinn essential jay Z lines you know what I mean, 391 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 8: like I will not lose and you know what I 392 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 8: mean all this stuff. 393 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, cool, and he was like, 394 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: and I need it in nine days? 395 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: Wow? 396 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 5: And I was like wait what He was like, I 397 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 5: need it in nine days. He was like, I'm about 398 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 5: to pitch it to Beyonce because at first Beyonce was 399 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 5: supposed to do the whole thing. I think it was 400 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 5: Beyonce's idea to have different celebrities say different lines. So 401 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 5: once I started writing it, we started going through the 402 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 5: entandres of who would say each line. So that made 403 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 5: it even doper for somebody to say a line that was, 404 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 5: you know, textbook with them. So having like Will Smith 405 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 5: say you know no more big Willie my name, you 406 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 5: know what I mean, like those type of lines, and 407 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 5: then even having Date David let Himan say the CBS 408 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 5: line I keep one eye open like CBS. That was 409 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 5: the hardest part of the whole thing, and David led 410 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 5: Himan was like, yo, y'all, this is the line y'all 411 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 5: want me to say, Like I just it don't feel cool, 412 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 5: and we're like, yo, if you say this line, it's 413 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 5: gonna be the dopest line in the whole thing, and 414 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 5: it was. And then to have Blue at the end 415 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 5: say the ghost write a line like it was just. 416 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: Dope, man. 417 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 5: And he hit me afterwards. Didn't had my number, but 418 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 5: he just hit me afterwards and thank me, and I 419 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 5: was just like wow, like you wake up to a 420 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 5: text from Hole saying that was dope, Like thank you, 421 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 5: Like that was crazy. He didn't have your number because 422 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 5: he asked quest love for it. 423 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 4: Oh got you got? 424 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 425 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 5: Like billionaire Hole, I ain't had that number, you know 426 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 5: what I mean? I had two thousands, ninety hos, you 427 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 5: know what I mean. 428 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: But shot to jay z. 429 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 4: Man becoming mad Skills. At what point, uh, when did 430 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: you drop the mad from your name? 431 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: No? No, no, it's still Mad Skills. It's still Mad Skills. 432 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 5: Around the time when I was on Raucus, I was 433 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 5: going by skills for a little bit, but then one 434 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 5: of my partners told me. He was like, man, why 435 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 5: you change your name. I was like, I ain't want 436 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 5: to start sounding the old school. He was like food, Nike, 437 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 5: don't change Nike. He was like, they make you know, 438 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 5: they might make ad Max's Air Force ones, but Nike 439 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 5: always Nike. And I was like, damn, you're right. So 440 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 5: I just went back to Mad Skills after that. That 441 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 5: made him like ninety eight nine And then no, I. 442 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 7: Was about to ask you about the documentary you dropped 443 00:16:59,080 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 7: on YouTube. 444 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, now these girl brunch I did a during quarantine. 445 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 5: I did a h a like a stream kind of 446 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 5: like D Nice was doing. But I accidentally created a 447 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 5: sorority of women that still stick together to this day 448 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 5: through a stream, you know what I mean. And I 449 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 5: made a film about it and put it out, and uh, 450 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 5: these are women from all over the world, all over 451 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 5: the United States, and they still link up to this day. 452 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 5: And they called a brunch club and they just it's 453 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 5: just dope, man to be able to connect people through music. 454 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 5: And you know what we was going through and COVID 455 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 5: was hard, but you know, people like D Nice and 456 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 5: Jazzy Jeff. For myself, we was online DJ, and those 457 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 5: people still stuck with us. You know, he'd still do 458 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 5: club quarantine concerts and whatnot. So it's people that was 459 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 5: attached to that and are still attached to it to 460 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 5: this day. 461 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: So I made a documentary about its artist. No, no, no, 462 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: it's it's I was just playing songs. 463 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 5: But the women that were on there, they accidentally started 464 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 5: becoming friends. So now they go on trips together, they 465 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 5: go to you know what I mean, they go to 466 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 5: New Orleans, the Essence Fest together. It's like like eighty 467 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 5: of them, you know what I mean. It's crazy. So 468 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 5: it's a dope movie. I throw it on YouTube and 469 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 5: if you ever want to see the store, you can 470 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 5: check it out on there. It's called Mad Skills in 471 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 5: the nineties, girl, bru. 472 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 8: Why you haven't written any like TV shows or movies 473 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 8: and stuff like that boot boom. 474 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 5: So listen after the wrap up, you know what I mean. 475 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 5: I'm chilling and I'm watching y'all. I was watching y'all 476 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 5: and my wife ended up saying she was wanted to 477 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 5: watch the show in the show called Supercell. So we 478 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 5: started watching super Sell and I'm looking at the show 479 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 5: and I'm like, rap Man. I was like, why do 480 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 5: I know that name? 481 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: Baby? 482 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 5: She was like, I don't know. We watched the first episode. 483 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 5: I was like, Yo, this shit is dope. 484 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: I was like rap Man, Like why that name just 485 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: sounds for me. 486 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 5: We watched the whole show and I kept seeing created 487 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 5: and written by rap Man. So I seen him on 488 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 5: the Breakfast Club and I'm like, Oh, that's the dude 489 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 5: that did the show. 490 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: Like why, I feel like I know him? Yo? Why 491 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: Win searched his name and. 492 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 5: He used to do the UK wrap up for like 493 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 5: ten years, so he was doing wrap up. I think 494 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 5: he said that so I DMed him and I was like, yo, Bro, 495 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 5: I checked your show out, man, Like, you know what 496 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 5: I mean. I think it's dope, great work. I said, 497 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 5: I remember you from back in the day, used. 498 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: To do the Rapper. He was like, oh, man skills. 499 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: I bet your old ship Bro. I'm sorry, man, I 500 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: took your old ship man. I used to do the 501 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: UK version. Man. Man, it's amazing to have you in 502 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: my DMS. 503 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: When I was like, Yo, it's crazy, right, I was like, 504 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: it's crazy to go from writing wrap ups to writing shows. 505 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: And I tell my wife that. 506 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 5: She like, yeah it is, And I'm like, you know 507 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 5: what I mean. So I'm like, I definitely got some ideas. 508 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 5: I pitched some shows shout there like James Samuel and 509 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 5: we got some things in the work Black thought. 510 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: You know, QUESTLA two and. 511 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 5: Five Entertainment, Like, I got some I definitely got some 512 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 5: things that could make it the television. 513 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 4: It only makes sense. I feel like that's the next, 514 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 4: the next level for you. 515 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 516 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got like at least three shows that I'm 517 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 5: trying to pitch one. I've already pitched two more like movies. 518 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, what did you start DJ DJ? When I 519 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: was little you know what I mean. 520 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 5: I started taking it seriously in probably around twenty fifteen, 521 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. 522 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: I used to tow with Jazzy Jeff. 523 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 5: So after that I always knew how to, you know, 524 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 5: I always knew how to you know, play records and 525 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 5: blend or whatever. 526 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 8: But parties was a whole different thing. And I tell 527 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 8: people all the time, like. 528 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 5: You know, you can sit in your room and practice scratching, cutting, fading, 529 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 5: but you can't practice reading the room, you know what 530 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 5: I mean? 531 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: If you can tell you that. 532 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 5: And DJing is the one job where you know instantaneously 533 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 5: whether you're doing a good job or a bad job. 534 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 5: You play a song, everybody stopped dancing. 535 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: You're doing a bad job. 536 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 5: So for me, djaying, the passion that I lost in 537 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 5: rapping I found in DJ. So I started going heavy 538 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 5: with it. And it just people like Jazzy Jeff, Clock 539 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 5: can Ki Capri was all of them was supportive, you 540 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 5: know what I mean. So I just started doing parties. 541 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 5: I've been I've been doing parties ten ten eleven years. 542 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 5: We just did a party homecoming a bunch of parties. Yeah, 543 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 5: I always you always win you in VA. So yeah, 544 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 5: I love DJing. 545 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: I love it. 546 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: I want to talk about what has happened in VA 547 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. Of course, I went to 548 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: Hampton University and when I went there, it seemed like, 549 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 2: you say, VA was the outcast. 550 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: But now I. 551 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: See everybody in VA coming together to make VA great, 552 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 2: from the fight to push your T's festival to Pharrell's festivals. 553 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: To break down what's happening in Virginia because it's something 554 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: I've never seen before, which I love. 555 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 5: You know, all those years of getting overlooked even though 556 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 5: we have you know, some of the greatest musicians and artists. 557 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: In the world. Athletes as well, Yeah, athletes. 558 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 5: As well, Ai vic you know what I mean. Like 559 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 5: we always had a chip on our shoulder, you know 560 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 5: what I mean. So, and it was never really unified. 561 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 5: So now it's becoming unified to where, you know, we 562 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 5: having festivals and we supporting each other, we writing records 563 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 5: with each other, collaborating and just helping the younger generation 564 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 5: come up. Because I want people to, you know, I 565 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 5: want people to look back at Virginia and be like, damn, 566 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 5: they stick together, you know what I'm saying. Like, so 567 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 5: like on this album, I got hell of people from 568 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 5: the Crib, you know, did Hooks, did production. So like 569 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 5: I said, winning this Grammy, you know with my friends 570 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 5: from the Crib means more because I could have got 571 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 5: any producers, you know, I could have hollered at some cats, 572 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 5: but I wanted to do it with my friends and 573 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 5: my family. So Virginia is always home. Man, Like they say, 574 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 5: it's something in the water and it always will be. 575 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 8: You know what that dread because right you had a 576 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 8: you know, pushing and the clips, the clips and Parral 577 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 8: and the Neptunes, yeap clips and Neptunes, and then you 578 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 8: had Missy and Town Timbland, Missy and Magoo. But it 579 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 8: almost feels like in a lot of ways Va Young 580 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 8: they gave a sound away, Yeah, they. 581 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 4: Gave what if they would have just kept that sound 582 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 4: with just ba rgis. 583 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 5: I always thought about what if Pharrell and Chad had 584 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 5: did like a many fresh you know what I mean, 585 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 5: and only rocked with my my homies and my crew 586 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 5: is only getting this vibe like Manny was just Wayne 587 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 5: Juviie hot boys, like you know what I mean. I 588 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 5: felt like it could have been something special, but it 589 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 5: and it's still grew into something special. But you know, 590 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 5: you can't tell them another man what to do. 591 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 3: But did they try? 592 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: Did they try with clips and try a lot of it? 593 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: And I don't think people understood the sound right. 594 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 5: It was so futuristic, you know what I mean when 595 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 5: it came out, Like Teddy Riley didn't know what to 596 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 5: do with them in nineteen ninety three because it already 597 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 5: sounded like twenty twenty five then. So I think the 598 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 5: world had to catch up with Pharrell and them sound 599 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 5: and Chad, and once they. 600 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: Did, everybody wanted it. 601 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 5: And you ain't about to turn down Britney and Justin 602 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 5: and Michael Jackson, and you're not about to turn down 603 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 5: those production cos. 604 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: S think with Timberlande, I think Timberlande was the same, 605 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: like his sounds was so futuristic, he wasn't gonna. 606 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: Turn down why you know what I mean? Why so? 607 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 8: But Tim is an amazing dude, man, And so it's 608 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 8: in Neptunes. I love those dudes absolutely. 609 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 610 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 3: Man, Well the album is out right now. It's streaming now. 611 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 3: It says something. 612 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: About voting, so the Grammy can vote on it starting again. 613 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 5: No, they can start. It's starting. It started last week 614 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 5: and you can vote up until January third and I 615 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 5: am in the Best Spoken Word Album category or for 616 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 5: the album it's seven number one. So we just are 617 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 5: here campaign and if you listen to the project and 618 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 5: you like it and you are a Grammy voter, but 619 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 5: feel free to, you know, click that button for your boy. 620 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 4: Writing is such a lost start, man. 621 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: It is. I still write, I still lyric. 622 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 5: I still literally walk around with a book and a pen, 623 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 5: like I like to see my ideas. The phone is cool, 624 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 5: like I could put in a voice note or whatever 625 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 5: go into my notes, but I like to be able 626 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 5: to open it up and see it and when it's done, 627 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 5: cross it out, you know what I mean. 628 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 8: So for me, I walk around with pens and paths 629 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 8: and things like that. I still like the physically right absolutely. 630 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: And lastly, New Year's Eve, you're gonna be at the 631 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: R and B Block party. My family's doing it with you, 632 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: of course, family, Antonio, get your tickets now if you're 633 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: in Norfolk, if you're in Virginia, the seven five seven, 634 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: it's the Norfolk Scope. Tickets are still available as you 635 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: as Brian Michael Cox it shot the bank is is 636 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: everybody is everybody, so RB if you're out in Virginia, 637 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: make sure you pull up on them. The R and 638 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: B block Party is one of my favorite thing needs 639 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: to do throughout the year, so definitely get your tickets. 640 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: Appreciate you for joining us. 641 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: Thank y'all for having me. 642 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 8: Man I will catch y'all, happy, have holidays, Good New 643 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 8: Year to all of y'all. 644 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Charlote. Let me come up, my guys. 645 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 3: It's Mad Skills, It's the Breakfast Club. 646 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: Good morning peace. Wake that ass up in the morning. 647 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.