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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? And welcome back everyone? Are you a Charlotte?

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Speaker 1: This is part two with our wonderful producer Easton. We

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Speaker 1: are breaking down season three, episode eight of the best season.

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Speaker 1: I think, yes, I might change my mind when we

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Speaker 1: watch more, but you know, I think that's it. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: here we are welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I was just talking to Evy, who works on this show,

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Speaker 2: about there was a there was an article that said

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Speaker 2: I'm having a boyfriend is embarrassed?

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Speaker 1: Always a big deal man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know we're talking about like what do

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Speaker 2: you what do you need a man for? Especially as

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Speaker 2: a man, I will lead the march of that, you know,

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Speaker 2: other than like reaching things on a high shelf. But

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Speaker 2: but yeah, at this point when the episode is happening,

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Speaker 2: I mean, like it it's so funny because I think

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Speaker 2: that was that may have been the last episode we

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Speaker 2: talked about together, was one where Miranda's terry designer gets married,

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Speaker 2: and we were I was thinking about that too, because

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Speaker 2: I was Another that also surprised me, is like thinking

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Speaker 2: about Miranda wanting to get married. Everybody wanted it, uh

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Speaker 2: at that point.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think felt like you were supposed to do

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Speaker 1: it right, felt pressured, and I mean I think some

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Speaker 1: of that is still there, but I also think that

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Speaker 1: the generations all have their own vibe about it, you know.

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Speaker 1: So now we have like this very big generational gap

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Speaker 1: right between like z X what are what are they.

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Speaker 2: Called, uh, millennials, millennials.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, you know, there's there's

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Speaker 1: very distinct things now going on, which I also don't

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Speaker 1: feel like used to be true, right, Like you were

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Speaker 1: supposed to want what the people ahead of you had. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Now that's not that's like

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Speaker 1: a free for all, right, which I think is as

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Speaker 1: that is is because of economic issuing, like many different

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Speaker 1: things are impacting that, right, yes, but I also think

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Speaker 1: that it's nice that there's more choice. It's nice that

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Speaker 1: you can pick your own lane and be there. But

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Speaker 1: like you know, when when Mary Beth came on and

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Speaker 1: thing a boyfriend that made me laugh so hard, dude,

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Speaker 1: like you're crazy, but she's of the group of boyfriends

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Speaker 1: are embarrassing, right, which I also really like, for me,

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Speaker 1: I find the whole movement of this to be really

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Speaker 1: like if you weren't posting, you know, like you and

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Speaker 1: the cute you know, significant other or whatever. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I think that whole thing is just like what awful

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Speaker 1: because I also feel like it's added pressure and also

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Speaker 1: everyone makes it look amazing and obviously relationships are complicated,

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Speaker 1: but you can't really put complicated on Instagram. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: so then it just looks super shiny and beautiful and

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Speaker 1: there they'll show flowers like oh you give me flowers

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Speaker 1: what I love about Chante Joseph's article Our Boyfriend's embarrassing

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Speaker 2: Is having a boy is having a boyfriend embarrassing now?

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Speaker 2: Which feels like something we would have been a super

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Speaker 2: tight zoom in on Carrie's computer and watch your.

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Speaker 1: Type is having a boyfriend now? Embarrassing? Question mark? That

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Speaker 1: But I have seen Shane on my Instagram and she

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Speaker 1: So there's the people who love it, like myself, who

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Speaker 1: question because some of these boyfriends are frankly embarrassing. You

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it benefits the man so much more in

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Speaker 2: every possible way. The only we got too much on this,

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Speaker 2: But like I've talked to my wife about this story,

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Speaker 2: Our wedding, we're playing our wedding, we're trying to get

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Speaker 2: that was the first time I had ever really seen that,

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Speaker 2: that is the you know, I truly think that's the

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Speaker 2: only but but you know, that's the only thing that

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Speaker 2: I really bring to this is that like, oh, we

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Speaker 2: have we have a great relationship, we get along really well,

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Speaker 2: She pushed me to like get a better job. There's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: these strong, powerful women that are gracing us with their presence.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's true. I mean, I mean

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Speaker 1: really hard. And he luckily proposed. He'd been living with

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Speaker 1: but he did propose, thank God in heaven. Now, what

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Speaker 1: That's the beautiful thing, right. So, yes, we live in

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Speaker 1: amazing that you see that, right, But I think, like

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Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard. It's hard to it's hard to navigate,

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Speaker 1: I mean, is it a chemical reaction though, that's my question, right,

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00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it can be a chemical reaction, but is

430
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: a chemical reaction enough? Yeah, that's the question. We haven't

431
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 1: really talked about Charlotte, which is funny or Samantha. Oh

432
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 1: Samantha storyline really depresses me. That's why I forgot about it.

433
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 1: Oh my God. This is also I did not remember

434
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: that we got into menopause at this point in the show.

435
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 1: But I mean we're ahead of our time, people ahead

436
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: of our time.

437
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 2: Man. I had the same reaction. And when I was

438
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 2: watching this, I'm like, oh, this is because I remember

439
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: this episode. I've seen it a handful of times, and

440
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: I was like, OK, this happens this early.

441
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: Me too. I didn't think it happened this early at all,

442
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 1: but it does make sense because she's moved right, so

443
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: she's got different neighbors. And so this neighbor who's like this,

444
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 1: you know, ponytail dude, and I mean they just wrote

445
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 1: it like so extreme. You know.

446
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: He's played by Robert LuPone, who is Patty Lapone's brother.

447
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: I am aware, yes, yes, and he gives it is

448
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: all man, he really does. He digs in, he digs

449
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: in with this guy oo and she just seems so

450
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 1: miserable and I felt really bad for her. So basically,

451
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: we have that very long scene in the bathroom, and

452
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: I do remember filming that, and it's not the only

453
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: scene we've had that was like a set that we would,

454
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: I think, try to change up a little bit. I

455
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: feel like last season We also filmed in that weird counter,

456
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, because there's like a fake mirror, but it's

457
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: obviously the cameras. Yeah, and it's really hard to block,

458
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: right because like you're all standing there and you have

459
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: to do the right thing at the right time, and

460
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: we would just be in there for hours and hours

461
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: and hours. And I remember that one because like we

462
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: have to pass the tampon and then I have to

463
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 1: go back in the stell and then I have to

464
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 1: come back out, and then Samantha has to tell us

465
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 1: all that she's older, and then there's like this awkward silence. Yes,

466
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: it's like so strange, Like I don't know if that

467
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: was what was on the page, like do you're name saying?

468
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: Like is it is it supposed to be funny or

469
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 1: is it supposed to be awkward? I guess it's just

470
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: supposed to be awkward. I don't know. I was like

471
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: kind of dying watching it the same, And I mean

472
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: it's odd because like we must know and why is

473
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: it a big deal?

474
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I also.

475
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: Feel like the rest of us are in our thirties.

476
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: Like the funny thing is how we talk about aging,

477
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: but we're so young, you know, And now, I do

478
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: think that would be different, you know what I'm saying, Like,

479
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't think women in the thirties are like, ohly

480
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: have a thousand eggs left? I mean, are they? Maybe

481
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: they are. I don't know. You guys right on the

482
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: Instagram tell me if that's true, because I'm not sure.

483
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I felt like it was premature, you

484
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: know what I mean? But I do I feel as

485
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: a as a female who was in her thirties at

486
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: the time that this is and they started with the

487
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: articles about freezing your eggs and stuff like, this is

488
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: when they started with the articles about the ticking time clock. Yeah,

489
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 1: like you kind of like if you were out in

490
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: the world and you looked around, you just see like

491
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: magazines like your clock is ticking, Like it was weird.

492
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: It was like it just they decided to just start

493
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: talking about it all the time, do you know what

494
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean? Yes, but they were not talking about menopause

495
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: all the time. So I think it's really awesome that

496
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: we do talk about it at all. And so poor

497
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 1: Samantha goes through this whole really sad, sad time where

498
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm day old Bread's. Yeah, it's so sad.

499
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: It's so sad, And so she has sex with her

500
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: neighbor even though she really doesn't want to, and she

501
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: looks so miserable with him, and they're at dinner and

502
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: she's just so obviously miserable. It's kind of funny that

503
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: she's so obviously miserable because it's not how we normally

504
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: see Samantha. Yes, but he is oblivious. And then they

505
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: go home and have sex, but she's not even participating,

506
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: even remotely, but she's only doing it because she thinks

507
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: she's over the hill. And then she gets her period

508
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: and she's so ecstatic that she runs off because she

509
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: realizes she's not quote old or whatever. It's all so crazy.

510
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, it's amazing that we were

511
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: talking about it back then, in the year of two thousand, right,

512
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: because now twenty twenty five, we're trying to pull that

513
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: lid off. Man. We got to talk about women's health,

514
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: We got to talk about what menopause means and when

515
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: it starts and what to do and all the different things,

516
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: which I think is great.

517
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, yes, another moment where sex and city trailblazing we.

518
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: Were we were, I mean, we do it in a

519
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: slightly like questionable way, although you know, because we're trying

520
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: to be funny, which I think is great that we're

521
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: trying to be funny. And obviously in the second film,

522
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: she's got a whole storyline about her hormones. And I

523
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: remember the time, I hadn't I hadn't been through it yet,

524
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: and I didn't totally understand, you know, I didn't. I

525
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: didn't not understand, but I hadn't been there, and now

526
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: I have, and it's so real. I mean, you do

527
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: not want to lose your hormones. Like you got to

528
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: pack those hormones in a special place if you're traveling,

529
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: and you need to guard them, Like you can't just

530
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: put them in your suitcase, because what if you lose

531
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: your suitcase. You got to keep them with you, which

532
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: I think is what she's doing in the second film.

533
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: Like it is all very real. And if you lose

534
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: those hormones, I mean it goes south quick, man, I

535
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: mean quick. You don't sleep, you're sweat covered. It's bad.

536
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I'm scaring all you younger ladies and easton.

537
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: This is real, real, it is real.

538
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: It is real. It seems like it's a caricature, but

539
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: it's really hot, and I mean it is different for everyone, right,

540
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: but like like when it finally hit me, I was like,

541
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Like what, like what because you're kind

542
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: of like, what's going on with me? Like it's odd?

543
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: Why am I hot? Because I'm never hot? Right, never hot?

544
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: And you think, like, like I had this happen when

545
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 1: I just this past season. No, yes, when we were

546
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: filming and I had this big scene to do with

547
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica where I had to go to work at

548
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: like four in the morning or five in the morning.

549
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: When I woke up at one and I was in

550
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: an Airbnb and I thought that the air conditioning had

551
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: broke because it was really hot. And then I thought,

552
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, did I forget to change my hormone patch?

553
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: Am I having a night sweat? I had COVID? Wow? Right,

554
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: But the list of thoughts went number one, the air

555
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: conditioning broke, so it was the summer number two. I

556
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: forgot to put on my hormone patch. Number three, Oh

557
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: my god, I have a fever. I of COVID, which

558
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: is number three. Turned out to be true. But I mean,

559
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: it is a really interesting thing once you've been through it,

560
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: You're like, wow, it's not played up for film and

561
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: TV like it is actually like someone has just thrown

562
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: a bucket of water at you, like all of a sudden,

563
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: like it's so bizarre. Anyway, I digress, but it is

564
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: really interesting to look back at what we were writing

565
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: back then, even though we're trying to make it funny.

566
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: And I mean, I think in a way it's good

567
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: that we're trying to make up funny.

568
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking, is it's uh, it's it's

569
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: going to reach a lot more people.

570
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah that way, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, and

571
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: maybe they don't necessarily understand it. But later then I go, oh, yeah,

572
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 1: now let's talk about Sweet Charlotte. Sweet Charlotte. Charlotte just

573
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: toying with that Tray. Oh my goodness me. But I

574
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: thought it was adorable and I didn't mind it. I mean,

575
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't like the playing of the games. I think

576
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: we've already discussed this or whatever. In general, I don't

577
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: like the playing of the games. But I think also

578
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: when I look at how it's going with Tray and Charlotte,

579
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: it's all good. Do I mean, like you know what

580
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying, It's still really fun. Everyone's having fun, not

581
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: a big deal. I do think it's also adorable. I

582
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: had not remembered that I closed the door and he

583
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: says he loves me in the most dry, dry way.

584
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: But it's so adorable, Like it's so simple. It was

585
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: such a great choice, you know on his part. I

586
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: think how how he delivers that, and it is really cute.

587
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: I didn't remember then that I invite him in and

588
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: go to whatever base that would be. I don't know.

589
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: Like Charlotte, God, she's wackydoodle. She is she is?

590
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: Uh? I think is that Charlotte are curious? Is kissing

591
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: with extras?

592
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: That's I think. I say kiss do? I say kissing

593
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: with extras? And she's like, how ninth great of you? Yeah,

594
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: she's so totally one hundred percent right. But again, when

595
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: I look at like, if you were just to tell

596
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: me this storyline, I'd be like, eh, But when you

597
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: look at us like it's all good, it's so good. Yeah,

598
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's so fantastic and it's so perfect.

599
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's anything wrong with getting to

600
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: know somebody before you jump in bed with him.

601
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's uh. I mean that's when I

602
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: was a dating man. I used to wait a very

603
00:29:59,280 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: long time.

604
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: How long is a very long time?

605
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: Basically there's a couple of times where they the woman

606
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: would ask me, like, are you are you into? She

607
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: was worried. Yeah, Like I would wait like like five

608
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: dates before before making a move like that.

609
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: I like it.

610
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: I would you like a kiss.

611
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. I like it. I

612
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: like it. I like it because I like it because

613
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it would depend on the situation,

614
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: but I like it because to me from a guy

615
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: that's confident, Yeah, right, because like most guys are worried

616
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: that you're going to put them in a friend zone,

617
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: like if they don't move quickly, that you're going to decide,

618
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: oh they're just a friend, Like that moment will pass

619
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: and it will never come back or whatever the heck. Right, Yeah,

620
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: but I don't I don't think that that makes sense,

621
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: really no.

622
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: And I think if that's going to happen, it's going

623
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: to happen. You know, I always wanted an emotional connection

624
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: before I did that.

625
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: I think that's fransis. I think it makes it so

626
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: much better for that. But why don't all people feel

627
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: that it's interesting. Yeah, because now with the whole hookup culture, man,

628
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think anybody waits five dates. No, No,

629
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: it would be crazy.

630
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they wait. I think it's the

631
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: first night.

632
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: I know.

633
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Apparently this is what I hear, But I mean I

634
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: also think like that's crazy also, right, I mean I

635
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: just feel like my thing, too, is like why can't

636
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: you just go case by case? Yes, like maybe someone

637
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: is a hookup and that's fine, that's great, enjoy it,

638
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: know what it is, This is what it is. I'm

639
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 1: not expecting anything, right, but then maybe somebody else might

640
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: not be, or maybe you don't know and you need

641
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: to find out right. Yes, it's all very confusing. So

642
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Speaker 1: I think with this Charlotte Tray, I think the important

643
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Speaker 1: thing to me when I look at it is that

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00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: they seem in sync. Like it's not like he's mad

645
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: or confused or anything like that. He seems equally into it.

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00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: Yes, which is why it's working. They're both yeah, exactly

647
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: in sync.

648
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: There, exactly, which is so adorable. Let me cover everything, Easton,

649
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: You're so good with the paperwork.

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Speaker 2: I think, So I just one thing I want to

651
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: point out from Charlotte's moment. I just love the line

652
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: where she's, uh, they're talking about the tampons and she's like, well,

653
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Speaker 2: I have them at home, but they won't fit in

654
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: my Kate Spade perse.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad. I'm so glad. Yeah, it's quite a

656
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: Kate Spade moment. It was quite a Kate Spade moment.

657
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: And you know, I love Kate Spade, and yes, yeah,

658
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's a little sad talk about Kate Spade,

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00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: but I love Kate Spade and I love that they later, later,

660
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: many years later, is working in England and they were

661
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: trying to get wardrobe for me and they said.

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Speaker 3: You know, we're trying to get some Kate Spade, but

663
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: we can't get any. And I was like, you can't

664
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: get any Kate Spade, Like, can I call them?

665
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: I think I could get you too, some Kate Spade. Well,

666
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: to them, Kate Spade was just like yeah, like like

667
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: like an unattainable dream do I mean, it was adorable.

668
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: But I do love Kate Spade, and I do remember

669
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: there was a really big Kate Spade store on like

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00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: Broom and Spring or Prints, and I used to go

671
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: there all the time. And I used to buy a

672
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: lot of stationary. She made beautiful stationary and I still

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00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: have a bunch of it. And we had a lot

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Speaker 1: of wonderful things from Kate's Bad for a really long time,

675
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Speaker 1: and it was so quintessentially Charlotte. I thought, you know,

676
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: so kind of Oh yeah, great, perfectly Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: I have spent so much money at Kate Spade in

678
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: my life. Yes, I I up until recently, I had

679
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: I always had a Kate Spayed iPhone case for me,

680
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And I love the crazy bags that

681
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: they make and fun, the fun one like my wife

682
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: has a one that looks like a mouse, one looks

683
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: like a crab. I bought it when that looks like

684
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: a radio because I worked in radio and we love

685
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 2: Kate Spade.

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00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: I have like a loose sight like a like a

687
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: loose sight box one, you know what I mean. It's interesting,

688
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I like it. I still have it. I

689
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: like it a lot. I think it was Charlotte. I

690
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: don't know it was Charlotte's. I don't know. I like

691
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: it though. I like it. It's fun. It's like a

692
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: fun I like the fun, whimsical nature that I agree

693
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: with you. I agree with you. I think this episode

694
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: of overall was really good. But I also think that

695
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: one of the things that I am aware of when

696
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: I watched this episode, like I kind of mentioned, is

697
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: just the skillfulness of the writing in terms of planting

698
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: all these different things, yes, that are going to be

699
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: growing and growing, And I think this is why I

700
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: love third season so much. Yep, right, Like they weave

701
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: everything in and it's really gonna pay off, yes, you know,

702
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: but it's also really fun along the way, Like each

703
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: episode is great and it's hard to turn it off

704
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: when you need to turn it off.

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00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: It'srey you know. At the beginning, we were talking about

706
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: like you would watch it comes from the Past, and

707
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: it was like everything would be tied up. You could

708
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: watch any episode.

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00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: You should tell you that you had to do that, yeah, yes,

710
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: And they had to be self sufficient, like the an episode,

711
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: so that if someone just just had never seen it

712
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: and was coming to that episode, that they didn't need

713
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: any backstory or forward story. It would just be self contained.

714
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: Yes, And it makes sense because you know where they

715
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: gonna You're not gonna pick it up on DVD. You know,

716
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: you can't do that back then, so it makes sense.

717
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: But something I think is so masterful about this this

718
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: show and this season specifically, is like, you can't you

719
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: get I think, the best of both worlds because you

720
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: get these these seeds for these long arcs, you get

721
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: to follow along on these stories. But I think if

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00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: you just watch this episode on its own, it has

723
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: these really succinct ideas that you can enjoy.

724
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a good point. I mean, that's what's

725
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: cool about the way that they wove together her writing, Yes,

726
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: and the themes of the episode, with the relationships that

727
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: are happening in the episode, and why we can twenty

728
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: five years later talk about the theme and have it

729
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: still be interesting.

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00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy to think about. It still boggles my mind,

732
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: you know. I mean I never would have dreamt a

733
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: million hundred years that we would be here discussing the

734
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: themes and the characters and the relationships. It's cuckoo, but

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Speaker 1: I love it. It's such a gift. It's such a gift.

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00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: It really is.

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00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: Yes, thanks, he used to thank you. It's so fun.

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00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: It's easy. It's easy and good. We'll just have to

739
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: have Alison on one day.

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00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: Fun.

741
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: That would be fun. Have you together.

742
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I'm down.

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00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: That could be enjoyable, That could be enjoyable. All right,

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00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: thank you, bye everybody,