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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Covered a lot of ground dealing with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk some basketball coming up. Damian Lillard of the

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Speaker 1: Blazers will stop by, including this season, Lillard has averaged

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Speaker 1: at least twenty five points per game for six consecutive seasons.

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Speaker 1: The only players with a longer active streak Lebron seventeen,

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Speaker 1: k D twelve, James Harden nine. Stat of the Day,

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Speaker 1: stat of the day, bastaut of the day, stat of

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Speaker 1: the day? Here comes that? What stat of the day?

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Speaker 1: Chris Mannox will join us. Coming up. We'll talk some

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Speaker 1: hoops with him, including Russell Westbrook place in history because

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Speaker 1: Scottie Brooks, the Wizard's head coach, says Russ is the

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Speaker 1: second greatest point guard of all time. I'll discuss that

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Speaker 1: with Mannix here coming up. Westbrook did go for twenty

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Speaker 1: assists in twenty rebounds last night. Very impressive. That's the

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Speaker 1: second time he's done that. The only other person on

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Speaker 1: the list Will Chamberlain, who did it once. Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 1: there's a funny thing that happens on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the glass. When you mentioned Russell Westbrook MC he

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Speaker 1: just did again. Mclovin groans he does this. I don't

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Speaker 1: even think he knows its subconscious he's anti Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 1: that as a person, as a basketball players like helping

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Speaker 1: your team win. But when you mentioned his name in

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Speaker 1: any positive nature year, yeah in the background, what is

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Speaker 1: the problem. I just don't like his style play ball dominant,

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Speaker 1: can't shoot. Yeah, I feel like the most underrated thing

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Speaker 1: in NBA's field goal percentage. Like anybody can shoot the

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Speaker 1: ball forty times, but if you're like Lebron or Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry and you hit it half the time, that's a

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Speaker 1: lot better. Well, I don't know what the analytics say,

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Speaker 1: because they say bad things. No, no, but you're mister analytics.

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Speaker 1: You're the buzz kill where I say, hey, batting average,

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Speaker 1: that matters, No, it doesn't. You know, you're the one

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Speaker 1: that famously tried to tell me how great Adam Dunn was.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just because he got walks. He struck out

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Speaker 1: two hundred times, But you said, no, you're very valuable.

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Speaker 1: On base is on base? Yeah, he has a huge

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Speaker 1: on base percentage, and then there's a huge percentage where

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Speaker 1: he strikes out. Where you don't get on base, you

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Speaker 1: know how that works, right unless the catcher drops the

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Speaker 1: ball on the third strike. Yes, I have a list

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Speaker 1: of the best NBA players and vehicle percentage non power forward,

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Speaker 1: non center. Kevin Durant is shooting fifty five percent from

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Speaker 1: the field this year from two, two and three. I

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Speaker 1: guess I'll say Michael Porter Junior from Denver Um. There's

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Speaker 1: a few guys like that, but mostly it's it's forward

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Speaker 1: the centers, but Shay Gilgas, Alexander Miles Bridges are guys

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Speaker 1: like that, Zach Levine or high high shooting percentage. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's really high. In reality. Lebron, Michael Jordan, Steph Curry,

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Speaker 1: those guys shoot like fifty percent from the field. That's

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Speaker 1: incredible to be a high volume. That's what different the

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Speaker 1: differentiates between them and Russell Westburn. Well, it's it's more

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Speaker 1: impressive that Steph Curry does this because Lebron, how many

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Speaker 1: shots does he get at the hoop? I mean, Steph

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Speaker 1: is shooting jumpers here and long, long jumpers. That's really impressive.

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Speaker 1: Michael later in his career just backed you down on

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Speaker 1: the blocks and he was taking mid range jumpers. What

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry is doing is unheard of. And that's why

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Speaker 1: when Scottie Brooks says, yeah, Russell lesbrook is number two

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Speaker 1: on the all time list behind Magic Johnson. He's not

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Speaker 1: better than Steph Curry, that's for sure. Yeah, mcclub, I

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Speaker 1: have one stat and you'll you'll growan about ross Way.

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Speaker 1: He's shooting sixty four percent from the line this year.

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Speaker 1: I know how you value free throwers, Yeah, because you

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Speaker 1: have the ball. Yeah, Like my best ball handler has

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Speaker 1: to be or should be, one of my best free

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Speaker 1: throw shooters. Now, usually he's much better. He's just having

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Speaker 1: an off year there. Yeah, yeah, point. NBA stats qualify

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Speaker 1: someone as a volume shooter if they take more than

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Speaker 1: There's only one player in the NBA who's got more

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Speaker 1: than fifteen attempts per game and is shooting over sixty percent.

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Speaker 1: Can you guess who that person is? He's shooting sixty

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Speaker 1: there's other guys like Rudy Gobert, Zion Zion Williamson. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's shooting seventeen attempts per game. He's shooting sixty one

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Speaker 1: point four percent. From the field. By the way, one

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Speaker 1: of the more anticipated aspects of the twenty twenty baseball

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Speaker 1: season was going to be the reaction on the road

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Speaker 1: last year due to the pandemic. Now the Astros are

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Speaker 1: going to face the music on the road. The Astros

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Speaker 1: are in Yankee Stadium tonight, first time Astros Yankees seven

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Speaker 1: game postseason battleback in twenty seventeen. Houston won all four

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Speaker 1: games to advance. The Astros also beat the Yankees in

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Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen playoffs. Presumably the sign stealing plot helped them.

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Speaker 1: At least that's how most Yankee fans are going to

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Speaker 1: collective Bronx cheer. May not be a full crowded Yankee Stadium,

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Speaker 1: but you get the feeling. Whoever's there, they're gonna let

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Speaker 1: you know. It's gonna feel like a packed howlest to

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Speaker 1: express their feelings about one of the more controversial teams

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Speaker 1: in all the sports, The Astros on the road, Yes,

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Speaker 1: mc doesn't it feel like that was a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: Who's left? Like, I guess all that matters is l

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Speaker 1: jose L Tuve. Yeah, mclub, it's like chords with the

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Speaker 1: Red Sox Beltran's gone, all the organizers are gone. But

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Speaker 1: if you're a Yankee fan, are you let him have it? So? Yes? Sure?

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Speaker 1: Why not go ahead to your heart's content? Doesn't change anything,

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Speaker 1: But you know you've got all this pent up anger

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Speaker 1: there that you know, had something taken from you or

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Speaker 1: your mind you had something taken from you. Let me

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Speaker 1: get a couple of phone calls, then Chris Mannox will

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Speaker 1: stop by. Jake and Wisconsin. Hi, Jake, what's on your mind? What? Man?

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Speaker 1: What a weird time to live in more Milwaukee. I

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Speaker 1: out to dinner and literally every table sitting around us

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Speaker 1: is talking about Aaron Rodgers. It's the only thing that

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Speaker 1: definitely do think so. So I worked at a restaurant

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Speaker 1: the loudest boom I've ever heard. Well, yeah, like people

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Speaker 1: keeping to himself. We're just getting weeks from this insider

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Speaker 1: But I mean it's a you know, we're not going

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Speaker 1: just it's really sucks not knowing me the truth. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't. At least Russell Wilson aired the grievances on

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Speaker 1: and he wanted to have a seat at the table.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to have a say, he wanted he wanted

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Speaker 1: draft and free agency, and I did, and it seems

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Speaker 1: like Russell Wilson is content. And see out. I don't

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Speaker 1: maybe this year, maybe the following year. Every team you

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Speaker 1: roll the dice with your quarterback, if you're gonna pay

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Speaker 1: then you're gonna move on and you're gonna draft a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and then that allows you to reload that. That's what happens.

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Speaker 1: That's what everybody's doing. And there are four, five, as

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Speaker 1: And I was told yesterday, because I ask a scout

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know who the quarterbacks were. But these

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Speaker 1: or not. Yeah, mclen. Why do we always do that

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Speaker 1: I know, I know we do that. Chris Mann discovers

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Speaker 1: the NBA Sports Illustrated their senior NBA writer. I'm looking.

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Speaker 1: You've got all these boxes there, like are you are

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Speaker 1: improvising here for a minute. I didn't know my cleaning

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Speaker 1: We were just talking about Russell Westbrook with the performance

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Speaker 1: says he's the second greatest point guard of all time.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean? I mean, Scott Brooks loves Russell Westbrook.

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Speaker 1: Westbrook is as important as any think he does, as

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Speaker 1: he hasn't won. But statistically speaking, when Russell Westbrook's career

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Speaker 1: ahead of him in terms of individual mark. Okay, but

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Speaker 1: list is let's do modern era, modern era. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: you eliminate Kuzy and the guys. Kuzy wouldn't be in there.

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Speaker 1: But okay, you know in his generation he was wonderful,

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Speaker 1: But Austin would be a right hand of dribble, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: go to left every time. Okay, So who's second on

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Speaker 1: But you have stats here, and we get drunk with

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Speaker 1: I want Russell Westbrook, who's got all these stats? But

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Speaker 1: separation happens from me. Okay, but would you would your

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Speaker 1: listed It was last year he listed off. I feel

424
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Speaker 1: feel really good about my top four receivers, Marquis Valdes, Scantling,

425
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: Alan Lazard, DeVante Adams of course, and Jake Kumerow. The

426
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Speaker 1: next day they cut Jake kumer you know, like I mean,

427
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have gone out on a limb and put

428
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Speaker 1: Jake Kumero in that if he thought they were going

429
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: to cut him, and that I think he felt like

430
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: that undermined him. So he has forged a really good

431
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: relationship with Matt Lafleur, in fact, better than I thought

432
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: he would, knowing how difficult that he can be to

433
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Speaker 1: work with and how it ended with McCarthy to him

434
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: for buying into the floor. There's not an issue there

435
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: except maybe they should have kicked They should not have

436
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: kicked the field goal on fourth at a the NFC Championship.

437
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: You were there when Rogers was drafted. Do you remember

438
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: what Farves reacting because it's a first round draft pick.

439
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: They didn't trade up, Rogers fell into their lap and

440
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: and Farv wasn't playing that well back then. So right,

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00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: that's different Rogers. Right, But remember this, Dan, Remember when

442
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: Brett far famously said, it doesn't say in my contract

443
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Speaker 1: and I have to help Aaron Rodgers get ready. And

444
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: that first year, man, it was frosty, It really was.

445
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: It was bad. He did everything he could to freeze

446
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: him out. Now it did improve, Like you go back

447
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: and look at Oh six when McCarthy got in and

448
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: Oh seven when they went to the NFC Championship game.

449
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: I mean there's plenty of plays where you see five

450
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: come running off the field after throwing a touchdown and

451
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: Rodgers is right there ready to give him the hut.

452
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: So it definitely changed. But man, at the beginning, it

453
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Speaker 1: was it was just it was frosty to Rodgers. P

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00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: He didn't freeze out Love. He said, He's like, look,

455
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Speaker 1: I'm not thrilled with the pick, but it's not Jordan

456
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: Love's fault. Well you start to look at this and

457
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: you go, okay, so Rogers the offense is good enough

458
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: for him to win the MVP. The skill position players

459
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: are good enough so that the front office did a

460
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: pretty good job. I think we could all be in agreement, right. Yeah,

461
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: I mean there's the narrative that they haven't done enough,

462
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: but they have the number one storing offense. They resigned

463
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: the best left tackle in the league and David bati Are.

464
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Speaker 1: They resigned the best, you know, maybe the best running

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Speaker 1: back in terms of touchdown production, and Aaron Jones. So

466
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Speaker 1: you say, well, they didn't do a lot in free agency, Well,

467
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: those were there free agents, right, So I would agree

468
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: with that premise. But also if I said, if I

469
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Speaker 1: go back five weeks, five weeks ago, and I say

470
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Speaker 1: to John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan with the Niners, don't

471
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: make that trade with Miami. Yeah, get all those draft

472
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Speaker 1: picks and you're probably gonna have to throw in a

473
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Speaker 1: defensive starter and you could get Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. Well,

474
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Speaker 1: I think with the ninth to get Aaron Rodgers on Thursday,

475
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: I know, but they didn't have any draft picks, and

476
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: like they had the third pick overall. But if I

477
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: said to Sam, do you think San Francisco if they

478
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Speaker 1: had a chance to get Rogers would they would they

479
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: have done that five weeks ago? Yeah, you're You're probably right.

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00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: They probably wouldn't have in terms of making the trade

481
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: they made to get to three. But here's the thing, Dan,

482
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: Like the Packers have sold everybody all along, we're not

483
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: trading it. Now, when does that change? You know? How

484
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: hard of a stance as Rogers going to take? I mean,

485
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: what do we is it? Is it June? Is it

486
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: when training camp starts July twenty eighth or whatever it is?

487
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: When the season opens September seventh? Now when is it?

488
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: That's like? I mean, how many times did we talk

489
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: during the summer of fire? If? I mean it was like,

490
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, the thing went on. Like the Packers m

491
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: has been, don't do anything until you absolutely have to,

492
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: i e. Ignore it and hope it goes away, which

493
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: they found out. Then stuff doesn't go away. How is

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00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: Rogers viewed locally? Yeah? You know what, people love him

495
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: because he wins. I'm not so sure he's beloved because

496
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: of who he is. Like Brett Farve was now at

497
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: a different time, right Dan, I mean, like Brett Farve

498
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: was downtown on Washington Street, you know, doing shots on

499
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: the bar and you know, pouring drinks and everybody. It's

500
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: just that that can't happen now, right, I mean it's

501
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: just the social media, the camera phones. It just he'd

502
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: be destroyed. Farb couldn't exist. But Farb was the everyman

503
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: right like he You lived through everything with him. You

504
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: grieved with him when his dad died, He cried when

505
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: he talked about his pain killing addiction. You know, he

506
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: was out front when his wife had breast cancer. Rogers

507
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: much more private, you know, much quieter. You know, he

508
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: has opened up in recent years, has become a little

509
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: bit more letting the public in. But it's just not

510
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: the same in terms of the beloved nous, not of

511
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: the player, Dan, But I'm the person. What role does

512
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: Shaleene Woodley playing this? I'm not touching that one? Brother?

513
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: Remember Olivia mind came after me. I'm not touching that. Yeah,

514
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: why did she come after you? Oh? She thought that

515
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: I wrote that he was not playing well because of

516
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: his relationship, which is not at all what I wrote,

517
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: and she took a shot at me on Twitter and

518
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: it all went crazy from there. So I have learned,

519
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm not touching that. Did she call you? Did? Rogers? Like?

520
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: What is your relationship like with you. So Rogers. When

521
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: that happened with Olivia, Rogers called me over in the

522
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: locker room the next day and say, hey, look, I

523
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: understand what you wrote. I don't think it's a big deal,

524
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: but she's she's upset about it. So next time, you know,

525
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: just keep her out of this. And he slapped me

526
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: on the shoulder and walked away, and I thought it

527
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: was over. And then two days later she would after

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00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: me on Twitter. So and then it just went you know,

529
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: then it was I blamed her, which was not what

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00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: I did. But no, I mean, my relationship with Aaron

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Speaker 1: I would categorize as good. He and I have done

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00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: two He's done two one on one interviews with me

533
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: in the last four or five months. For both first

534
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: stories that were pretty you know interesting. One was about

535
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: his incredibly low interception number when he reached four hundred

536
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: touchdowns And it was on New Year's Eve actually, and

537
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: we talked for a probably a half hour while he

538
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: was driving home, and in fact, he stopped to get

539
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: a bottle of don Perren Young, which I didn't even

540
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: know you could buy a Green Bay, but he stopped

541
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: to get a bottle of on his way home and

542
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 1: had to interrupt the call. And then we talked right

543
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: before the Jeopardy stuff aired, and I would say, um,

544
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: you know both both times they were good. Our relationship

545
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: isn't a good place. He likes to call me Bob,

546
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: which he knows I hate. I had robbed, not Bob.

547
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: So I think there's a good relationship there. Now. Am

548
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: I gonna call him up and he's gonna tell me everything. No,

549
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: that's not where our relationships at. Each the quarterback for

550
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 1: the Packers Week one Rob Bob. I don't know who

551
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: it is, but I don't think it's Aaron Rodgers. I

552
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: think there's a less than five percent chance that it's

553
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I'd say it's fifty fifty that it's Jordan

554
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: Loved And I say that because Dan. This was never

555
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: the plan to get him ready for twenty twenty one.

556
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: It was twenty twenty two. He was the third stringer

557
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: last year, like he wasn't even active on game day,

558
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: so that this wasn't a plan. I think they almost

559
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: have to go out and get And I'm not saying

560
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: it's this guy because he's under contract with another team,

561
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: but an Andy Dalton type of player, A Joe Flacco

562
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: type of player, someone that a veteran that could come in,

563
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: learn the system quickly and help and then bridge the

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00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: gap between Rogers and love. Oh I'm envious of you.

565
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: You got you got drama over the next couple of months.

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Speaker 1: You thought you were going to have an easy summer,

567
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: didn't you run? You know I had played more golf

568
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: last summer. I think that I had in the previous

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00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: few years. There's no way I had sixty five rounds

570
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: last year. I'll be lucky to get half that many.

571
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: I do remember you calling me and doing your show

572
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: once during the fire saga from a driving range, I

573
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: was hitting balls, just about to go play with some

574
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: throw So I'm fully ready for that. Oh, Fritzie's going

575
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: to reach out to you, that's for sure. It's it's

576
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: great to reconnect with you. Rob. Happy for your success.

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00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. You guys are the best. I

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00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: love you. That's Rob Demovsky, the ESPN Packers reporter. It's

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00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: probably been twenty years that we've been talking to him

580
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: on this show. Yeah pull Yeah, we definitely had him

581
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: on like in the oh four oh five to start,

582
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: no doubt. Yeah, it's been a long time. Yeah, now

583
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: he's a big TV reporter there for the Mothership. Yeahpule,

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Speaker 1: I can remember doing this show and when Brett Farve

585
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: decided to retire, Jay Glazer called during a commercial break

586
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: and you were just doing a segment about whatever we

587
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: were doing, and Jay called in on the hotline, which

588
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: he has, and he goes, I have an absolute bomb.

589
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: He put me out with Dan. I got to know

590
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: first and he told me, and then we put him

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00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: on with you and that we've had days where remember

592
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: when far left town and he's in the SUVs in

593
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: Minnesota and there's helicopters over live war on the air.

594
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: Green Bay's got a lot of drama per capita. Well,

595
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: I remember my son's a Packer fan, and he said,

596
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: I can I see Brett Farve before he retires. In fact,

597
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: the Brett Farve jersey that I have here in the

598
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: man Cave is my sons. And we went to the

599
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: game and we thought that was his last game. And

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00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: I remember that Farv went into the locker room and

601
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: somebody from the Packers said, Hey, you know, we got

602
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: this green room here if you want to hang out,

603
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Brett will talk, but I doubt it. He's

604
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: not going to talk to the media. And then like

605
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes later, door opens up and then he walks in. He's,

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Speaker 1: you know, having he's in a good mood. He's cursing

607
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: about the media, and uh, you know my son at

608
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: the time really young, and he didn't say anything, and

609
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: he said, hey, you know, I wanted to come up

610
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: and see a game. We spent the night, We went

611
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Speaker 1: to the steakhouse. You know, we did the whole thing

612
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: there at Lambeau. And he said, I don't want to

613
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: go out and talk to the media. You know, all

614
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna do is ask me about retiring. And he said,

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Speaker 1: and don't you bleep and ask me about retiring and

616
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: and so I didn't. And it was just a casual

617
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: conversation with him, but he was back and forth with

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Speaker 1: what he was going to do. And you know, it

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Speaker 1: was Rogers, you know, he was waiting to find out

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Speaker 1: if this was going to be his team. Like there

621
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Speaker 1: was so much going on there. It's it's hard to

622
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: put it into words, the feeling you had because Packer

623
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: fans didn't know, they didn't know what they had with

624
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, but they knew what they had in Brett

625
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Speaker 1: Farve and there was the chance that he was going

626
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Speaker 1: to retire, and then, of course we know how that

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Speaker 1: You're asking one in God's name is the Fifth Hour?

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643
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard joining us on the program. Did you guys

644
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: get Mellow anything for the milestone last night? Yeah? We

645
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: got him a game bo it seemed like you've been

646
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: collecting every game bar this see. But I'm gonna I'm

647
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: definitely gonna have a gift for him when we get

648
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: back to part of for breaking that top ten. I

649
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: told him last night that I'm I'm the kind of

650
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: person that's kind of like, I just move on to

651
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: the next thing. I guess I don't do a good

652
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: enough job of appreciate this stuff while it's happening. But

653
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: top ten is special, you know. And I told him

654
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: that what is Mellow like Mellow is well, when we

655
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: first got Mellow last season, I didn't know. I didn't

656
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: really know what to expect because some people are, you know,

657
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: such a high status and popularity, and you know, he's

658
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: legendary in the sport as well, so you just don't

659
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: know what type of character they might have and who

660
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: they might be truly, you know, as opposed to what

661
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: you see on camera. And when he came around, it

662
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: was like he laughed at everything, easy going, you know,

663
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: just down the earth. It was. It was the complete

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00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: opposite of everything that people try to make them out

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Speaker 1: to be. And what you would expect is somebody with

666
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: that type of status um, you know, as a celebrity

667
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: and as as a basketball player. But I'm I'm super

668
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: comfort with him and I don't and I don't really

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Speaker 1: you know, warm up to people like that, you know,

670
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really get you know, come close

671
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: to people like that. In mellow isn't great teammate, a

672
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: great person, a fun person to be around. And I've

673
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: been really um surprised by you know, who he is

674
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: as a person. In um, you know, my respect is

675
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: only going up, you know, since he's been on our team.

676
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the performance turned in

677
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: by Westbrook last night, but Scotty Brooks, his coach, said

678
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: he thinks Russell Westbrook's the second greatest point guard of

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Speaker 1: all time. Yeah, I mean he's always going to have

680
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: an argument for that, you know. I mean it's it's

681
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: gonna be his fourth season. I saw that. You know,

682
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: he's averaging a triple double, which regardless of you know,

683
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: if people say he's chasing stats or you know, hunting

684
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: stats or whatever like, it takes that takes a lot

685
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Speaker 1: to be able to do that, even if you're trying

686
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Speaker 1: your best. So you know, I think Westbrook gets a

687
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: lot of unnecessary flat or you know, hate or whatever

688
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: you want to call it. But his approach, how hard

689
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: he plays, how aggressive he is, how much he cares.

690
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: You know, he's a good person off the court. He

691
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Speaker 1: definitely has an argument for that. Is he better than you?

692
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Speaker 1: I don't think no point guard in the NBA is

693
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Speaker 1: better than me. Well, Magic's the best of all time, right,

694
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Speaker 1: I think that's that's consensus. You know a lot of

695
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: people say that, Okay, where's Steph Curry on that list?

696
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: I think Steph food. You know, if you it depends

697
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: on what you're going off of, you know, the quality

698
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: of the player, like if they was to just if

699
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: you're just lying these two guys up or what has

700
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: this person accomplished in their career? And you know, Steph

701
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: as to two MVPs, a unanimous MVP, back to back titles,

702
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: three total titles. You know, the resume is there. So

703
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: I think if you ask ten people, you know, seven

704
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: of them or eight of them would probably come back

705
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Speaker 1: and say, you know, Steph is right behind Magic and

706
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: the way he's changed the game, the excitement, you know,

707
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: with his style of play, and I think he's changed

708
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: the game more than any other player game When you

709
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: think about everybody who steps on the floor. You can

710
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: be five to five, you can be five ten. You

711
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: don't have to be seven foot. You don't have to

712
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Speaker 1: jump out of the gym. Like Steph gave everybody hope

713
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Speaker 1: that they could somehow do this, even though you know

714
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Speaker 1: nobody's going to be able to do quite like what

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Speaker 1: he's done. But he does give you that. We can't

716
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Speaker 1: be like Mike. You know, we may want to be

717
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: like Jordan. We feel like we can be like Steph Curry. Yeah, yeah,

718
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Speaker 1: I mean usually when you got an NBA superstar is

719
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Speaker 1: somebody with you know, great gifts. You know, guy given

720
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: thing six six six seven, super athletic, um things that

721
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, if your parents don't have that genetic makeup,

722
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: like you can't be that. And then you have you know,

723
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Speaker 1: guys that just work on it, and you know guys

724
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Speaker 1: who just they make themselves what they become. And I

725
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Speaker 1: think that's what Steph is is a product of. Now,

726
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: obviously he's not five five, he's six foot three and

727
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: his dad played in the NBA, so it's there are

728
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: things there that you know give him an advantage as well.

729
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: But um, a guy that's five nine and five teen

730
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Speaker 1: could could follow what he does, you know, and have

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Speaker 1: a chance. Is he a better shooter than you? I

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00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: think Steph is the greatest shooter all time? Are you second?

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Speaker 1: I think I'm top five? I think I'm top I

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00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: think I'm top five, has been. It's been some great shooting. Okay,

735
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: who else's sitting there, though, Dame? Okay, so you and

736
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Speaker 1: Steph top five? Who else? Man? I would have to

737
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Speaker 1: I would have to like it depends, you know. Some

738
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Speaker 1: guys are the way I look at it. Some guys

739
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: shoot off pin downs, you know. Some guys are catching shoot.

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00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: Some guys don't take a lot of attempts. Some guys

741
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: don't take tough attempts, you know. And I think where

742
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: I would put myself really high up there is because

743
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm not a guy that gets high quality shots. A

744
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: lot of my shots are off the dribble, contested um

745
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: from from deep range. Like me and step shoot a

746
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: lot of similar three pointers, and I feel like I

747
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: don't even get the the clean looks that he gets

748
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: because of, you know, the way their offense to set up.

749
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: He's you know, sometimes he ends up wide open because

750
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Speaker 1: of some of the actions that they end or transition

751
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: their screen for him, you know, before the defense is

752
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: set and he's he's more open um. But I think

753
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: when it comes to that, Um, I'm at the top,

754
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: top of the top, you know, I'm right up there.

755
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: He's Damian Lillard, He's the Blazer's guard. Where's your patience

756
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: level with this team? Yeah, you know, make the playoffs okay,

757
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: But like, like, win a championship, thank you? You know,

758
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: that's how greatness is to find at the end. It's like,

759
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: how many championships you God, you don't have those. I

760
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: would say this, like it's how greatness is defined by

761
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: I guess the world. You know, people would say how

762
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: many rings and how many of this? And how many

763
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: of that? And like I know my story, you know,

764
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: I know I had to scratch and claude and fight

765
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: and earn everything that I have. So, um, I want

766
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: to win a championship as bad as anybody. UM, but

767
00:41:53,280 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: like I won't. I won't view um, things like what

768
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: I what I what I've done hasn't been amazing, you know,

769
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: based off of what it took to get here and

770
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: what I put into what I have accomplished. Um, you know,

771
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: so like I feel like what I've done has been greatness,

772
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: But do I want to accomplish the ultimate That's what

773
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: That's what makes the situation UM that we've been in

774
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: the last few years frustrating because you just wanted you

775
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: just wanted to experience that. You want to get to

776
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: the to the mountaintop and be that last team standing.

777
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: You know. I think that's that's where the frustration is, um.

778
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: You know. And it's not like we just have the

779
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: worst days ever, like we got we have a great

780
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: work environment, we got great people. You know, everybody cares, UM.

781
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: But I'm you know, I've won or we've won since

782
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: my second year. We've been in the playoffs every year.

783
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: You know, we've been in three seed twice, We've been

784
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: to the Western Conference finals. And where I'm at in

785
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: my career is like to get to that that next

786
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: level is like you can't continue to just be okay

787
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,959
Speaker 1: with oh, we're making the playoffs. You know, you're working hard,

788
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: and you know at some point you gotta just be like,

789
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: it's time to go for it. You know, I want

790
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: to I want to experience that championship level. UM. And

791
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: that's where the frustration comes in. Where it's when it's like,

792
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: you know, I want that you know, are you in

793
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: your bathroom right now? No, I'm actually sitting in the

794
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: living room of my hotel. Oh okay, I was wondering.

795
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: I got a stat for you through six hundred I did.

796
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: I was looking behind you. It looked like the toilet

797
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: behind it. Okay, wait, okay, all right, you got nice

798
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: room there, all right, So now it's official. You're not

799
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: You're not on your toilet. I had to prove myself right.

800
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: It would have been a better story if you were

801
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: sitting on your toilet. Um through six d seventy five

802
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: career games, Carmelo had sixteen thousand, seven hundred and seventy

803
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: seven points. Through six hundred and seventy five career games.

804
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: You have sixteen thousand, five hundred eighty eight points. So

805
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: he's only a couple of hundred points ahead of you

806
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: when when he was at the same stage in your career,

807
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: although Melo had a total of four assists at that

808
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: time through six hundred and seventy. Oh, he's gonna he

809
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: gonna get it up if you throw it, do you

810
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: expect it back if I threw it to Mellow, Yeah,

811
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Speaker 1: I think, Oh, you can be honest. I'm gonna be honest,

812
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: did you ask it? If I throw it, do I

813
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: expect it back? Okay, if it's somebody else who throws it, Yeah,

814
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: Like I think when you, like when you when you

815
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: scored at the that we've scored at and you're playing

816
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: with another player who has as well. Um, you know,

817
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: I think his confidence and his his how comfortable he

818
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: is throwing it back to me is different, you know.

819
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: And when I threw so, like with that said, when

820
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: I throw it to him, I have confidence that there's

821
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: a chance it'll come back, but I don't expect it

822
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: to because I know I know it scores mine, you know,

823
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: when he gets to he like, yeah about to score,

824
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: you know. So like when I throw it, I don't

825
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: expect it, but I'm like, I keep myself ready because

826
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Speaker 1: i know it's a chance that you know, he'll make

827
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: the right play back to me because of the trust.

828
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: You know, he knows that I'm a score at that

829
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: level too. Last time I talked to you, you were

830
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: either having twins or you had twins. I think I

831
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: was having twins. Yeah, how's that? How's that going? It's

832
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: been busy, he's being busy. I had a boy and

833
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: a girl, so you got to play zone defense right now?

834
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: You and your wife right like? Man, we I mean

835
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: we were figuring it out. Obviously we got helped. I

836
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: got a lot of family important name. Um, but it's

837
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: definitely busy, man. And having a girl is also different.

838
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: It hits your heart different. Oh she got I got

839
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: three daughters. She's gonna she's gonna break your back. Oh

840
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: and and you know when they get married, I'm gonna

841
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: be a mess. I'm gonna be an absolute mess. You

842
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: got a lot of time, but I'm just telling you

843
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: save your money. Um. If if you went to the

844
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: playground and you can have anybody not on the Blazers

845
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna play two on two, who are you

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Speaker 1: showing one? One player? Yeah, you got one player. It's

847
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Speaker 1: a two on two game. I'm showing up with Kevin Durant. Okay,

848
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty easy. I think you're winning that game.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure. If Lebron shows up with Steph

850
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: m that's pretty good. I'd watch that well. I think, um,

851
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: it would definitely be a great two on two. But

852
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: it's Durant the best player in the game when healthy.

853
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: I think, um, him and Lebrown are like they're right there.

854
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: I think kad Kadi healthy could very well be the

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00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: best player in the NBA. He's such a matchup nightmare, though.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's just nobody. I mean nobody can't

857
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: nobody can guard him. Like if he's healthy, he's shooting

858
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: three's off the dribble, he's pulling up off the dribble,

859
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: he's posting up, he can get to the rim. You

860
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: can't block a shot he can hit, like the way

861
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: he handles the ball, the way he moves at that side.

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Speaker 1: Or are you're gonna put on him like I mean,

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00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: when healthy, I think, like at this moment, he could

864
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: very well be the best player in the league. But

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Speaker 1: it's great to catch up with you. Sorry about the

866
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: loss last night. You got the Calves. I got your

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Speaker 1: penciled in for fifty one against the Calves. Does that

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00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: sound okay? Hey man, we'll see. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 1: can you put up fifty for me? And that's not

870
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: asking too much. You got how many? How many it's

871
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: always a possibility, But you got twelve fifty point performances

872
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: in your career. That's not asking that much. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do one for your daughter, Okay, give her a fifty fifty.

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00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: There is always a possibility. But is somebody gonna get

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00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: close to Kobe's eighty one? Yeah? Who I think it would.

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00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: If somebody's gonna get close to Kobe's eighty one, I

877
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: think it would be between me, step me, steph Um,

878
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: Devin Booker can really get high? Um, I would say

879
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: somebody on Brooklyn, but it's you know, with all three

880
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: of them being out there is gonna be tough. So

881
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: I would say me, steph Devin Booker. Um, it's somebody

882
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: that I don't miss it. Can Clay Clay? Clay could

883
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: do it, And I would say Bradley Beal. I think

884
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: Brad could do it too, But that's that's eighty one.

885
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: I think it's it's gonna take a crazy night, but

886
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: it's it can happen. Give me the team that you

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Speaker 1: would do it against. Like if you just say I

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00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: can get eighty against that defense, it would have to

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00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: be against a team would have a big that's not

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Speaker 1: mobile because they wouldn't be able to be up as

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00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: high like in my mpigg and rolls and stuff like that.

892
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: I think game, I think I could get ten against

893
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Speaker 1: the Pelicans. See the thing what the Pelicans is they

894
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: they play hardest. It's hell, it's just it's just a

895
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Speaker 1: lot of lapses, you know, it's a lot of it's

896
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: a lot of lapses like through like over the the

897
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Speaker 1: course of the game. But it's not a it's not

898
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: an easy game. You like, Lonzo Ball plays good defense,

899
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Speaker 1: he's long, he plays hard. They got. I mean, it's

900
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Speaker 1: not a it's not a walk in the park. I

901
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: know people put big games on them, but it's just

902
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: it's just because it's more so because it lapses than

903
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: it is because they just you know, Eric Blesso too,

904
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Speaker 1: like they it ain't no pushover. You know, it's not

905
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Speaker 1: an easy game out there. Yeah, but I think I

906
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 1: could probably get a bucket right, like a defensive lapse,

907
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: so I could get a like you leave me open

908
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Speaker 1: from like fifteen to eighteen. Bang, it's down. Man. Maybe

909
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Speaker 1: I don't know your skill although your skill level. Man,

910
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Speaker 1: you know, I did research homework on you. I just

911
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Speaker 1: say you check YouTube. YouTube, you're gonna see it. There'll

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Speaker 1: be the people are still talking about it. Do my homework, Yeah,

913
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Speaker 1: do your homework because I'd hate to. You know, all

914
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, I see it on the court and

915
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Speaker 1: we start shooting you go, oh whoa, Okay, somebody's got

916
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of game here. It actually wasn't surprising,

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Speaker 1: all right. I appreciate that, but I wouldn't bring the

918
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Speaker 1: kids out because I don't want you to get embarrassed

919
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: in front of the kids. You know, if all of

920
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: a sudden I start lightening it up, you know, because

921
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Speaker 1: I don't have no shame. I don't have no shame.

922
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Speaker 1: I'm always ready for whatever the outcome is. Don't be

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Good luck against the

924
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Speaker 1: Cavs Lakers. Then coming up after that, great to catch

925
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Speaker 1: up with you game. Thank you for joying for us.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's Damian Leward, but my Blazers