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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Move the Sticks. Coming live from the NFL

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Speaker 1: Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. Bucky Brooks here with my man

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Speaker 1: Lance z line Ze land Z Bang bang bang bang. Look.

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Speaker 1: So look what we always talked about in the scouting community.

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Speaker 1: We absolutely love the combine. So today what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do is we're gonna do a comment recap of the

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Speaker 1: tight ends, quarterbacks in wide receivers. We're gonna interview Thaddeus Moss,

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Speaker 1: big time tight end from l s U. Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: would join us from the University of Oklahoma. And then

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Speaker 1: we also will talk to one of the top receivers

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Speaker 1: in the draft, Jerry Judy from Alabama. But let's start.

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Speaker 1: Let's start right away with the tight ends. Lance, just

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Speaker 1: your overview of the group. You know, I thought it

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Speaker 1: was just okay. I was expecting a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was just okay when you take everything

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Speaker 1: I call him fast because he ran a four four

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Speaker 1: nine and as an official four four nine and you

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Speaker 1: great two thousand eighteen. In terms of winning, uh winning

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Speaker 1: he's a step counter with his routes. He just kind

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Speaker 1: run a four four nine but you look that ragged

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Speaker 1: hasn't gotten any better with that, and that you know,

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Speaker 1: four fur nine doesn't mean you're gonna be a good

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Speaker 1: route runner, but better attention to it. He's a good athlete,

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Speaker 1: and when the ball's in the air, he's fantastic, but

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Speaker 1: you've got to be able to separate and get open.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, you tell me, what do you

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Speaker 1: do with this? What do you do with the guy

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Speaker 1: who ran at four four nine but he's just a

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Speaker 1: minus as a route runner? How quickly can I get fixed?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he can't get fixed. But I

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Speaker 1: have done this from the outset with a combine. The

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Speaker 1: combine has now become part track meet. Um, it's all

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Speaker 1: about the the cathalon, all of the events, the long,

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Speaker 1: short shuttles, the forty times. We can see a guy's athleticism,

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Speaker 1: but it still shouldn't disuade you from what you saw

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Speaker 1: it time and time again. People get food and odd

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Speaker 1: have to go back? Do you have to go back

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Speaker 1: and look at the tape? And so, uh, you talked

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Speaker 1: about Albert Oh's uh four four nine forty times what

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Speaker 1: we saw on tape. He scored some touchdowns, but you

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Speaker 1: could run in a straight line, straight line. But in

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Speaker 1: to happen. It shouldn't happen anyo. No, he's a he's

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Speaker 1: a developmental tight end that you get excited about traits.

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Speaker 1: You know, Cole Comet is a guy who you're gonna

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Speaker 1: Standout tight In Faetius Moss. How is everything going coming

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Speaker 1: wide receivers or whatever. But in this environment he looked

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Speaker 1: about as good as he could look. Now, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you when you look at all the quarterbacks, so Jake

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Speaker 1: From had to throw after Jacobison. That was not a

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Speaker 1: good look for Jake From. And there's nothing he could

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Speaker 1: do about it. That's how the alphabetical order rolls. There

433
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Speaker 1: was nobody named Farnsworth to break it up. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's just bad luck that you have to throw after

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Speaker 1: Jacobison when you're Jake From. He was never going to

436
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Speaker 1: look good in that spot. But um, he didn't do well.

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Speaker 1: From an armed talent standpoint, Shade Patterson was really off.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of guys, but Jalen Hurts stood

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Speaker 1: up to the stood up to the competition. I thought

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Speaker 1: Jalen showed a nice armond honestly on tape. I've never

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Speaker 1: thought that armed talent was a problem for Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 1: It's it's timing, it's it's throwing with anticipation. It's been

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Speaker 1: an issue at Alabama, it was an issue a little

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Speaker 1: bit at Oklahoma. He's had tremendous talent to throw to

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Speaker 1: at both spots. But we know about the things that

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Speaker 1: he does well. What he does well is he's tough.

447
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Speaker 1: He makes winning plays. If you need third, you know,

448
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Speaker 1: if if he's not beating you with his arm, you

449
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Speaker 1: know what, it's third and two. I'll go get it

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Speaker 1: on with my feet. You can direct snap to me

451
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Speaker 1: because they're not gonna stop me. Let me say what

452
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Speaker 1: you want about that. But but that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: play that moves the chains and keeps a drive going,

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Speaker 1: keeps your defense on the sideline, and keeps your off

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Speaker 1: sensive momentum rolling. And Jalen makes plays like that that

456
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Speaker 1: some other guys can't make. He does make plays. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a winning quarterback. He consistently gets it done. Had

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Speaker 1: a chance to talk to him after his workout. Let's listen.

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Speaker 1: Do his thoughts join the movie. Six podcasts we have

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Speaker 1: my man. University of Oklahoma quarterback Jalen Hurts. How's everything going? Uh,

461
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Speaker 1: it's going well. I can't complain blessed to be here

462
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Speaker 1: and be able to um be on the stage. Um,

463
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Speaker 1: it's it's all a blessing. Look, man, everyone wanted to

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Speaker 1: see you on this stage obviously. Uh. People that questioned

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Speaker 1: at whether you could pass or what kind of thrower

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Speaker 1: you were. It seemed like the workout went really well.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about your performance? Um? You know,

468
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Speaker 1: it's something I've done all my life. UM, and just

469
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Speaker 1: coming out here showcasing my ability to make all those throws,

470
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Speaker 1: um while being able to um move around and run. Um,

471
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Speaker 1: just just put it all together. I think that's what

472
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Speaker 1: separations me from everyone else, and it makes me the

473
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Speaker 1: dynamic player I am quarterback. So one of the things

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Speaker 1: that everyone talks about. They talked about your leadership skills

475
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Speaker 1: and uh, knew that you would kill it in the interviews.

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Speaker 1: How how was that process when it came to dealing

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Speaker 1: with the teams and interviewing in the like, UM, I

478
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Speaker 1: think it was it was cool. Um, just being able

479
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Speaker 1: to learn different perspectives you know of course, everybody's questioning you. Um,

480
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: has all these approaches to you and how they talk

481
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Speaker 1: to you and stuff, but needs to say I think

482
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Speaker 1: they went well. Um. Just I mean, like I said,

483
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Speaker 1: it's all a blessing to even be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: Nobody in my family's been in my shoes. So for

485
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Speaker 1: me to kind of set that for for my little

486
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Speaker 1: cousins to come and generations to come, it's a special deal.

487
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Speaker 1: So man, there's so many people that view you as

488
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Speaker 1: such such a role model. The way that you handled

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Speaker 1: yourself running two different programs Alabama and Oklahoma. Uh, the

490
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Speaker 1: intangible qualities that you put on display. Um, where does

491
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Speaker 1: that come from? Like being able to be a pro

492
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Speaker 1: at such a young age. Um, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: I always say at a young age, I was introduced

494
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Speaker 1: to so much coaches, kid, five, six, seven years old,

495
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm emulating everything. No, the guys are doing,

496
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Speaker 1: these seniors and juniors in high school. Um, And while

497
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Speaker 1: I was around them so much, I learned a good

498
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Speaker 1: and the bad habits. You know, I saw the good

499
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Speaker 1: things and the bad things. And I made a decision

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Speaker 1: at a young age and that elementary that I was

501
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Speaker 1: gonna try and do the good things. I was gonna

502
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Speaker 1: try and set the right example, um and compete in

503
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Speaker 1: everything that I did. You know, in terms of being

504
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Speaker 1: the ultimate competitor. Man, you're you're the best that I've

505
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Speaker 1: ever seen as a college player. In terms of being

506
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Speaker 1: a young player to be a sec offensive Player of

507
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Speaker 1: the Year. Take your team to the national championship game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're You're Deshaun Watson series away from winning

509
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Speaker 1: the national title as as a freshman. Go back the

510
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Speaker 1: next year, you guys win it. Um, you may play

511
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Speaker 1: as your third year in the like. Like. There's a

512
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Speaker 1: lot of resiliency that you've displayed throughout your career. Um,

513
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Speaker 1: when it comes to playing quarterbacks. So much of that

514
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Speaker 1: is how do you respond to critical situations? Up? What

515
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Speaker 1: is that that grit, that tough let's come from? You know,

516
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Speaker 1: I've responded though, I've responded to those critical situations and um,

517
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Speaker 1: I guess unprecedented situations my whole entire career and my

518
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Speaker 1: whole life. Um, just being able to weather the storm

519
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Speaker 1: and you know, giving things to my parents, my family,

520
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Speaker 1: my upbringing, everybody whom I've been able to be around.

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Speaker 1: The different coaches I've had, they all had a pivotal

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Speaker 1: role and who I am as a player and as

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Speaker 1: a man. Um. So it's a collective number of things

524
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Speaker 1: that go together. But um, it's come a long way

525
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Speaker 1: and and and I'm I'm hungrier than ever for more

526
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Speaker 1: unique perspective because you talk about coaches and influence. So

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the last two coaches

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Speaker 1: that you have. One. I want to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about Nick Saban and the process and what you learned

530
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Speaker 1: from that experience. And then don't want to follow it

531
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Speaker 1: up with learning from Alabama going to Oklahoma a transfer

532
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Speaker 1: and putting it all together under Lincoln Rally. So first

533
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Speaker 1: about Nick Saban and what you learned with the process,

534
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Speaker 1: and not many people are able to say those things,

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Speaker 1: you know, having coach Amen, I mean, I chose to

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Speaker 1: go to the University of Alabama because I feel like

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Speaker 1: me and Coach Saban, where we're alike, more like than

538
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: people realize in terms of our competitive nature, how we

539
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Speaker 1: handle our business, our approach um and getting stuff done,

540
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Speaker 1: and and going to Oklahoma and having a different type

541
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Speaker 1: of coach with a different approach. Um. I'm very thankful

542
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Speaker 1: to be under him, and they have going over him,

543
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Speaker 1: and and even learn from the other two guys from

544
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Speaker 1: film and stuff, and I mean, he's he's he He's

545
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Speaker 1: just kind of allowed me to be decisive and you know,

546
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Speaker 1: just different approaches, different coaching points and and and all

547
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Speaker 1: were helpful. Well, I mean think about it this way.

548
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Speaker 1: So now you go to the Nation Football League, you

549
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Speaker 1: have another coach. How have those experiences, multiple offensive coordinators,

550
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Speaker 1: all the different change and stuff that you got to

551
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Speaker 1: endure while still being expected to play at the high level.

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Speaker 1: How would that help you with the next leap? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a It's definitely an asset. I try

554
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Speaker 1: and use it as an asset. Um, being around all

555
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Speaker 1: those coaches, being able to adjust for with everyone, being

556
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Speaker 1: able to win championships with everyone. Um, it's a special deal.

557
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: And it's it's not something that's it's often occurring. Um.

558
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Speaker 1: So I hope you know, the right people recognize that,

559
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Speaker 1: and um hopefully hopefully I can be able to make

560
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Speaker 1: my you know, make my mark on the game. I

561
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Speaker 1: can't let you go without asking you about winning. Uh.

562
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Speaker 1: So much of the quarterback position, people are talking about

563
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Speaker 1: arm talent, passing, ability, run, the ability, but ultimately quarterbacks

564
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Speaker 1: to judge by the ability win Um, what have you

565
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Speaker 1: discovered in terms of the secret sauce that enables you

566
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Speaker 1: to get your team consistently to the winner circle? You

567
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Speaker 1: know everybody asks me about about leadership. How do you

568
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Speaker 1: How are you able to do this with this team?

569
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Speaker 1: Do that with that team? UM? I think the biggest

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Speaker 1: you know, the biggest reason was I was able to

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Speaker 1: be myself. UM. I went in there. I understand that

572
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Speaker 1: that it's earned, not given. They're not supposed to follow

573
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Speaker 1: me just because of who I am or whatever that is.

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Speaker 1: It don't work like that. UM. So just trying to

575
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Speaker 1: build relationships with everybody. UM, trying to learn the land

576
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: of land um, and and feel everybody out and just

577
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Speaker 1: work hard and set the right example. Because one thing

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Speaker 1: I do know is you can't be a hypocrite at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position, and you can't be a hypocrite as

580
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Speaker 1: a leader. And you gotta practice what you preach. So

581
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Speaker 1: I just try and do that, be a man of integrity,

582
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Speaker 1: and I move and and try and do right. Man.

583
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Speaker 1: Were expected to see you do great things at the

584
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Speaker 1: next level. Continue to do right, man, Blessings will flow.

585
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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining the program, So Lances, it's

586
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Speaker 1: funny Prior to the conversation, you talked about and playing

587
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Speaker 1: winning football, and he explained how he's able to do it.

588
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: The intangibles, the leadership, understanding, the process and as a coach,

589
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: a deal, all those things, all those things matter. And

590
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Speaker 1: when we talked to teams, UH, teams are warming up

591
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Speaker 1: to the possibility of Jalen Hurst being uh in eventual

592
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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Doesn't mean he'll start in the first two years,

593
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Speaker 1: but uh, with the winning attitude, the pedigree, the fact

594
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Speaker 1: that he's a door three at quarter quarterback. I said,

595
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: he has some Dak Prescott to him. Right situation, right environment,

596
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: He's certainly could UH make it happen. But man lands

597
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: in my excitement about all the other quarterbacks, I forgot

598
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Speaker 1: to mention the guy everyone was waiting to see. Jordan's

599
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: love from Utah State. Uh. We always liked the armtelling.

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Speaker 1: The armtelling was never in question. What did you see

601
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Speaker 1: from here? Did you like how you performed? What are

602
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: your thoughts? So I thought that you know it. Depending

603
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: on which level he was working on, I thought his

604
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: um ball placement at times could have been a little

605
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: bit better. But that's a timing thing and that's gonna

606
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: be tough out here with different wide receivers on every rep.

607
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Speaker 1: You know, you don't know who you're getting. You getting

608
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: a guy who's slow getting out of his brakes, you're

609
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: getting a guy who's flew it out of his brakes.

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00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: It changes your timing, and you don't know these guys yet.

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to, you know, I just want

612
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: to see it come out. I want to see it

613
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: relatively accurate. What I did Love is no pun intended.

614
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: Is when he throws it, it's just so effortless, effortless,

615
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Speaker 1: and that's something that I thought really stood out today.

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Speaker 1: There were certain guys who and Herbert and Easton and

617
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Speaker 1: Love were the three that was the most effortless. James Morgan,

618
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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, he's got a lot of our talent too,

619
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Speaker 1: but you can really feel him step into the fastball.

620
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Speaker 1: These other guys it's like, oh, no big deal, I'll

621
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: just started ninety seven without even hardly trying. No that

622
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Speaker 1: I mean that. That is a big thing. When you're

623
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Speaker 1: able to put RPMs on the ball, and Jordan's Love

624
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: can't put those r p m s on it, does

625
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: a great job of spending it. The big thing with

626
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: him tying his eyes and feet together, and then having

627
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: him played with a little more pocket discipline and decision

628
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: making too many turnovers at the position. I understand like

629
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: everyone presents, as he said it learning opportunity. But what

630
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: I want to do is in games, I want to win.

631
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Speaker 1: I don't want to learn. I want to win games.

632
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Speaker 1: And the best way to win games is not give

633
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: it to the other team. He just has to manage

634
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: it and corral it. But he's certainly talented enough to

635
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: be a QB one in our league. You know, uh,

636
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: these pass catchers. We talked about different types of wide

637
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 1: receivers for different quarterbacks. You gotta get used to it now.

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Speaker 1: This is a This is a really very group of

639
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Speaker 1: wide receivers. Of the two different groups that we saw

640
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: a lot of different flavors of ice cream and and

641
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: I want to stay with the speed flavor right now.

642
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: And that's Henry Ruggs. Four to seven. That was his

643
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: official time. We were looking at Henry getting under for

644
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: three and sure enough he lived up to the hype

645
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: at a four to seven. That John Ross four to

646
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: two stuff, that's serious business. Four to two people talking

647
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: about can he catch John Ross? It's there's a guy Um,

648
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: there's a guy, Javelin Guidry, who was a cornerback from

649
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: Utah who's a sixty meter sprinter in college. He's got

650
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: a shot tomorrow to get down under four three. Also

651
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: be four to two. I mean, come on, that's serious.

652
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: Four to seven is fast, and Rugs looked apart. Um.

653
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: I thought the guy that really stood out in the

654
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: drills ooh, Ceedee Lamb. When Ceedee Lamb was talking to

655
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: on TV to DJ and Charles Davis, he was talking

656
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: about the fact that that the guy he emulates is

657
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. And after he said that, I started, I,

658
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of kept that in mind

659
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: while I'm watching him in the drills, and you start

660
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: seeing those quick hands that go up and spear the

661
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: ball and you know, pluck it and tucket and and

662
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: then he's gone, and you realize that is some of

663
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: the you know, emulating some of the things that that

664
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: that de hop does. De Happen is not a fast guy,

665
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: but what he does is he's a great route runner.

666
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: He's learned to separate or create short He's learned to

667
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: create catch space in a in a phone booth. That's

668
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: what CD has got to learn to do no. I mean,

669
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: he is a fantastic player, and you're right, he's a

670
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: space player. He's a guy that you just want to

671
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: get the ball to and let him go to work.

672
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not surprised by this time, Like

673
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that's who he was like

674
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: four or five old. That's that's what he is. I

675
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: think when you put him and Jerry Judy together, I

676
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: think both of those guys did exactly what we thought

677
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: they would do. Ceedee Lamb was a phenomenal pass catch.

678
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: You did a great job making these tough catches, making

679
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: him look easy. Jerry Judy is the best route runner

680
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: that we've seen in college football. Has to make consistent

681
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: with Sean Jefferson would disagree with you. Now, I mean

682
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: they and I mean I will put them. Those guys

683
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: in similar categories. Unfortunatelyvan Jefferson is not from Florida, is

684
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to work out here run because

685
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: of a Jones fracture in his foot. Um, but he's

686
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: a nice route runner. You know, I thought got a

687
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: lot better than a rout runner this year was justin

688
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: Jefferson from the slot That four four three helped his

689
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: cost today, Bucky because a lot of people thought he

690
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: was a four five two guy. Four four three is

691
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: something that is going to help him, No doubt it

692
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: does him because it changed the perception on him. I

693
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: thought he was a guy that was kind of nestled

694
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: right in the second round. But when you hear people

695
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: down in the LS you talk and talk about him

696
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: being the best guy, talking about him being the straw

697
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: that stirs to drink. You add all the intangible qualities

698
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: to production that he put up, then put the combine

699
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: with the forty time, He's gonna have a chance to rise.

700
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he gets into that first round category,

701
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: but I do believe he can be a guy that

702
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of cracked the top fifty when it comes to

703
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: being here here in his name, I want to hit

704
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: you with the West Coast guy, Michael Pittman. So I

705
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: don't know what your thoughts were. Four or five two

706
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: is faster than I expected for Michael Pittman, and I

707
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: love the ball skills. I thought he got a lot

708
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: better as a route runner this year. He's tough four

709
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: or five two to me, I thought that helped him

710
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: as well for being a big wide receiver. I thought

711
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: that was a nice time for him. Look nice time.

712
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: UH had a long time offensive coordinator when I was

713
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: with the Seattle Seahawks and before that the Green Bay Packers.

714
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: UH Gill Haskell talked about understanding when a big man

715
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: is six two or taller, weighs over two hundred ten

716
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: to if he's able to run into four or five

717
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: low four or fives, that's moving for a big man.

718
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: And so Michael Pittman's movement skills, He's athleticism at that

719
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: size is unbelievable. Four or five two for him, with

720
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: the toughness, the special team's contributions and the other stuff

721
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: that he can add as maybe kind of that Michael

722
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: Thomas like receiver. Yeah, there are a lot of people

723
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: that would be excited about him. Brandon Auk is another

724
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: one who I know. Reggie Wayne was talking about the

725
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: fact that he he was the one that Reggie he

726
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: could feel him on the field, you know, just smooth, fluid,

727
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: just the way he moved and came out of breaks,

728
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: and I thought that was big for him. And he

729
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: ran a four or five oh, which is fine, But

730
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: he's the guy that's a yak daddy. He's the one

731
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: that throw it to him and he goes to work

732
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: once he's got the ball in his hands. Yeah, he

733
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: does make it happen. He makes it happen in the

734
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: open field. So much of what we're doing and when

735
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: we're putting together a wide receiver corps, putting together a

736
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: basketball team, and uh, some of those guys, like we

737
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: talked about, we have shooters, guys that rob runnings, you

738
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: have your scores, guys that can go get buckets. Uh,

739
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: he falls into that creategory because that Russell Westbrook type

740
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: and man, give it to him, get out the way

741
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: all ice a ball. He can do uh, special things

742
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands. So Chase, So, Chase

743
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: Claypool ran a four four two. He's two hundred thirty

744
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: eight pounds. Ran a four or four two. You want

745
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: to talk about moving, that's moving, but he didn't catch

746
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: it as well. So you know, Devin Duverne ran a

747
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: four three nine. He's a former track guy in high school.

748
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: That's moving, but he doesn't really get into you know,

749
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: get into breaks and you're a little more limited on

750
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: what you do with them. I guess these are guys

751
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: who I'm a fan of. Chase Claypool Duvernade to me

752
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: is I know he's gonna be fast in a straight line.

753
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: I want to see it translate into functional football speed.

754
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: I need to see him be able to shut down

755
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: that speed and get into a break. And I don't

756
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: think he's really gonna be a guy who gets into breaks.

757
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have to be an overroute, you know,

758
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: kind of like you had with uh different types of

759
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: wide receivers, body types, but with with DK Metcalf. Don't

760
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: ask him to do things he doesn't do no, And

761
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of it. I think I

762
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: think you have to understand your personnel, understand what your

763
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: personnel excels at. And a lot of these guys that

764
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: we've talked about, because we didn't even talk about Leavisco

765
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: Chanel running a four or five eight, which is a

766
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: little disappointing because when you see him on sation he

767
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: pulled up. I mean that was his only his only run.

768
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: And I talked to a scout who told me, he said,

769
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: the problem that he's he's starting to worry about Leavisca

770
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: a little bit, he said. So he pulled up this

771
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: time with something that was injury. He said, he dealt

772
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: with a growing all year. He's had a shoulder and

773
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: a foot previously. When these things start to add up

774
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: on you teams right especially about now, and it pops

775
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: up at the combine, turns into a red flag for Jicks.

776
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: Could it could turn into a red flag because you're

777
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: worried about getting Kevin White type like invest in receiver

778
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: that you never get a chance to get maximum value

779
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: out of. And so we'll see with a viska. But

780
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: one guy who continues to improve continues to impress. Alabama

781
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: wide receiver Jerry Judy had a chance to spend a

782
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: little time with him following his workout, joining the Mood

783
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: the Sticks podcast, My Man, one of my favorites from

784
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: way back. Alabama standout wide receiver Jerry Judy, Man, how

785
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: are you doing? Comments? All done? How you feel? I

786
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: feel great. I didn't run the time that I like

787
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: to run, but I feel like overall with my running

788
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: I did pretty good. Yeah. I would say that you did,

789
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: uh have an outstanding workout like Jerry? Obviously having watched

790
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: you man since you were eighteen years old, to now

791
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: be at this event, what does it mean to kind

792
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: of make the journey to put yourself kind of on

793
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: the verge of really realizing one of your dreams. Uh,

794
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: it means a lot, you know, you you all dream

795
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: about this since she was a kid. Now actually finally

796
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: to be here, It's like a surreal moment. So I'm

797
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: just joining the moment and join the process and can't

798
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: wait to what the future holes. It's funny you talk

799
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: about the process. When everyone talks about Alabama, the process

800
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: is always brought up. What have you learned from your

801
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: time in Alabama to prepare you to be a pro? Um?

802
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: Never be complacent? You know there's always somebody out there

803
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: working harder than you, So you never want to be complacent. Um.

804
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: Once you complacent, that when you lose everything. So you

805
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: want to stay focused and be driven and be determined

806
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: and dedicated to reach your goal. You know, and thinking

807
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: about that that wide receiving room. A lot of talented

808
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: guys in that wide receiving room. Alabama is known for

809
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: being competitive, five star recruits coming in every year. What

810
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: do you learn with having to fend off guys for

811
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: playing time, having to really earn your way onto the

812
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: field of Alabama? You know, there was a lot a

813
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: lot of great guys out there. You know, it's always

814
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: been competitive out there in practice. So I learned a

815
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: lot from the guys. You know. Um, I really learned

816
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: about making the best of your opportunities because your opportunities

817
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: so limited. All these great receivers around, so once you

818
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: get an opportunity, you just gotta make the best of it.

819
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: So Alabama has turned out quite a few wide receivers

820
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: of like talking about Calvin Realley, Julio Jones, on and

821
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: on and on. You reviewed as one of the best

822
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: route runners in all of college football? What is it

823
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: about your game? Like? How did you become such a

824
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: precise route runner over the three years of Alabama and

825
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: even before there? Just just studying the grades, just like

826
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: Amark Cooper counting really Keenan Allen Steffon did received that

827
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: really crafty and know the details and fundamentals of route running,

828
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: just knowing how to get open and call separations. You know.

829
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: So everyone, we're talking about your quarterback to a talk

830
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: about lower uh is one of the top quarterbacks in

831
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: college football. What is it about to tell us a

832
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: little bit about what makes him special? Um, just his

833
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: personality and he's a great dude, he's a great leader.

834
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: On and off the field, who do everything the right way.

835
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: Just a first class guy. So when when he speaks,

836
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: everybody listening just because we know what he brings to

837
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: the table. Hall he worked on and off the field.

838
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: You know, It's funny when you were running your forty,

839
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: I was interviewing Jalen Hursts, and Jalen stopped the interview

840
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: so we could watch you run. Um. I know he

841
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily feeling his career with Alabama, but just talk

842
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: a little bit about him and how special he is

843
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: as well, Jenny, he will specially guy, a very great leader.

844
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: Um a winner also too, so he's a great quarterback

845
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: in my eyes. So he do everything the right way also.

846
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: You know. So here we are, we we finished up

847
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: the combine, We're moving forward, about to go to maybe

848
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: pro day private workouts. What are some of the other

849
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: things that you want to work on to put yourself

850
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: in the best position on draft? That all right? Now?

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Speaker 1: You know. So, I can't wait to continue to see you, girl,

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see you play at the next level.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining the podcast. Thanks for having me. Hey,

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Speaker 1: look man, very impressive. Uh, young playmaker Jerry Judy is uh.

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Speaker 1: and so we're gonna wrap that up like that's day one,

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Speaker 1: him last What do you think? Yeah? I had fun.

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Speaker 1: everyone knows. On Friday, we will recap uh the old line,

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Speaker 1: running backs and special teamers and the kid because I

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Speaker 1: know how much you care about that. Saturday's workouts, we're

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Speaker 1: dealing with the D line and the linebackers um and

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Speaker 1: we'll continue to review and recap all of these workouts,

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