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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. Hi Dan, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by a room

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Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan, what's up? Boys? How are you doing? Seem

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Speaker 1: a little downcast here today? The environment in the room

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Speaker 1: was definitely a little more tense than the usual, I

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Speaker 1: would say, or sad, I guess would be the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's no tension. That's all the release. It's a sad release.

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Speaker 1: The Jets are done. Uh. It does point out a

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Speaker 1: fundamental disconnect with my employment here. I joined the NFL

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Speaker 1: in two thousand ten as a Jets fan, and I

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Speaker 1: remain a Jets fan. He's even as I've gone through

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Speaker 1: the company and writing for the website and doing a podcast,

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Speaker 1: and still at my heart I'm a fan of the Jets.

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Speaker 1: So when they crumble in one of their same old

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Speaker 1: Jets collapses like what happened early this afternoon Pacific time,

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Speaker 1: there's something painfully unrelenting about having eight hours of a

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Speaker 1: work day ahead of you, including a sixty to seventy

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Speaker 1: minute podcast. So here, I am, um here, So I

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Speaker 1: don't get fined. Well you should look at it, maybe

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Speaker 1: the listeners and then all the three of us, who

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Speaker 1: are just the nicest guys in the world, as maybe

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Speaker 1: we can help heal you. And by the end of

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Speaker 1: this you'll rediscover your love for football or your bear,

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Speaker 1: your heart, and then you'll connect with people. I'm a pro.

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Speaker 1: I'll work through this, and we will talk about the

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Speaker 1: Jets and Bills a little bit later in the shows

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Speaker 1: and just gonna work through it. Mark has a lot

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Speaker 1: of um, you know, angst as well. Today this is

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Speaker 1: you know, it did cross my mind as the Jets

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Speaker 1: were stumbling into oblivion or Bolivia, as Mike Tyson would

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Speaker 1: say that between Mark and I there would be enough

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Speaker 1: angst to feel like a house of teenage girls and

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Speaker 1: boys tenfold different situation there, Yeah, that kind of a house.

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Speaker 1: But um yeah, I would. I would say that it's

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Speaker 1: been a uh you know, it's week seventeen. It is

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Speaker 1: the end for twenty teams and yours was painful and

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Speaker 1: mine was predictable, right, and a new beginning for the Browns,

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Speaker 1: which we'll get to once again, a new beginning for

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Speaker 1: the Browns coming up on today's show. Yes, there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams to talk about in the Denver

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Speaker 1: Broncos or one of them. Uh somehow Uh. They are

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Speaker 1: coming out of the regular season as the a f

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Speaker 1: c's top team according to the seedings. Coming up, we'll

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Speaker 1: get into that end the return of the sheriff, so

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Speaker 1: that will be interesting. Yes, as I said, Rex Ryan,

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Speaker 1: Uh beat the Jets again. We will talk about that

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Speaker 1: and Sunday Night football with the NFC North on the line,

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Speaker 1: Vikings Packers. A lot of good show happens. What a

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Speaker 1: show you gotta you gotta get used to this though.

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Speaker 1: This is it's a test of professionalism, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: because the good ship, you know, the the Jets are

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Speaker 1: high up on those pain rankings for a reason, but

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Speaker 1: the good ship around the NFL we're just getting started.

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Speaker 1: We're just taken off. So you know, we could have

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Speaker 1: a lot of situations in the coming years in decades

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Speaker 1: where there's tough lot the shows are getting bigger. But

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Speaker 1: I think that people like about this podcast is that

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Speaker 1: we're not going to get Dan being fake excited. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get the real Dan and that's you know, go

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Speaker 1: tune in somewhere else if you want to get someone

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Speaker 1: who's fake. Two words fundamental disconnect and I gotta work

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Speaker 1: through that. It's dysfunctional, kind of like the San Francisco

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Speaker 1: forty Niners. That's a professional or on that also Jim

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Speaker 1: tom Seula out right before we start taping today. But

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Speaker 1: let's start talking about some games, and we will start

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Speaker 1: with Yes, the Denver Broncos, who crazy because Monday night

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Speaker 1: night football where the Broncos could have missed the playoffs entirely.

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Speaker 1: this there is not a dominant team and this will

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Speaker 1: and become the face of the franchise. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you need if you sign him, I don't think you're

431
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Speaker 1: making him the face of the franchise. But I do

432
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: think as long as his owner, his agent is is

433
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Speaker 1: it doesn't go nuts. Well. I just he had a

434
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Speaker 1: really good year, but we know he's a flawed player.

435
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 1: He's flawed, yes, and I don't know if he'll ever

436
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 1: have a season as good as this. But I think

437
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 1: given their current depth chart, Gino Smith, forget about Gino Smith,

438
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: Bryce Petty is still way too raw to know anything.

439
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 1: You can't hand over the team to him. Keep him on.

440
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: This is a veteran team still with a lot of

441
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: good veteran players in the early thirties, so you kind

442
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: of you can't turn it over to the twenty three

443
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 1: year old ballot kid that's never done anything. So I

444
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: think if you can sign Fitzpatrick uh to another deal,

445
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 1: he's gonna get another deal from somebody. As long as

446
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 1: the money isn't crazy, I'm okay turning the team over

447
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Speaker 1: to him for a couple of years. If he can

448
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: be close to this guy, give him big money and

449
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 1: and then and keep trying to draft as high. I

450
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: keep possibly can, but he's gonna get good money. He's

451
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Speaker 1: absolutely gonna get four million dollars a year or something crazy.

452
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Speaker 1: And that's as long as it doesn't go to twenty

453
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Speaker 1: or something and it gets out of hand. I think

454
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Speaker 1: the Jets will be happy to bring back. I think

455
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: this year they have a GM that's not going to

456
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Speaker 1: make a miscalculation in terms of money. That way they

457
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Speaker 1: have they have, You've got hope as a Jets fan

458
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: because you've got a good coach and you've got a

459
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: good general manager who worked well together. I think there's

460
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Speaker 1: reasons to feel like this can they can build off?

461
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Speaker 1: This question though, Do you think that what happened today

462
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Speaker 1: and they didn't get blown out, They were in it

463
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Speaker 1: till the end, a couple of faithful plays, but that

464
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Speaker 1: winning the game last week against what in that locker

465
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Speaker 1: room has to be seen as the arch rival. Was

466
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Speaker 1: there any element of letdown where they weren't able to

467
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Speaker 1: see this game or deal with it the same way

468
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Speaker 1: when it was even more important for I don't think

469
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Speaker 1: it was a letdown. I think they came out tight.

470
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Speaker 1: I think that they the moment maybe overwhelmed some of

471
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Speaker 1: There were some drops, There was some uh, penalties. They

472
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: had a fourth and three where they got Sheldon Richardson

473
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: got drawn on an encroachment with Stipe, type of stuff

474
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: that you never see. They were making a type of

475
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: mistake that Rex's bone head team was making all season.

476
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Speaker 1: And you know, I think this team is there's still

477
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: things to be excited about. One of the more surreal

478
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Speaker 1: moments of today for me was after the game was

479
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Speaker 1: over and I did the right up and I kind

480
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: of you know, walking you stumbled like a zombie into

481
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Speaker 1: the our break room to get lunch that they served

482
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Speaker 1: to all of us. Uh, Charlie Cassidy was in there.

483
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: It was just me and Charlie. Charlie, of course, was

484
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Speaker 1: responsible for the Jets hiring Mike mccagnet. I think he

485
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: played a role in Bowls too correct, I think. But

486
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Speaker 1: I was like Charlie, I said, I can't believe the

487
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: Jets blew that one. And he was like, ah, yeah,

488
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Speaker 1: saying that was a killer. Say uh, but I was like,

489
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Speaker 1: but Charlie, I want to thank you for for Big Mac.

490
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Speaker 1: It was. It was a nice higher there's like, yeah,

491
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Speaker 1: say they'll be okay, saying I think you're right, Mcca

492
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: was It was it great higher and I think what

493
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Speaker 1: happened today was just they lost one of these games.

494
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Speaker 1: I mean, they won by three points against the Giants,

495
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Speaker 1: who are lousy, They won by three points against the Cowboys,

496
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: they won the against Patriots and over him. These are

497
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: all close games, is a sort of what the NFL

498
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: is right now, and they had won three of those

499
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Speaker 1: in a row on magical drives by Fitzpatrick, and then

500
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Speaker 1: and then they got picked off by a guy. I

501
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: think Tyrod Taylor is like the guy you don't want

502
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Speaker 1: to play in the week you need to clich in

503
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Speaker 1: Buffalo because those those long drives that he had one

504
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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and then one to start the game,

505
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Speaker 1: where his legs are just keeping those drives going. It's

506
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Speaker 1: just it's why Rex Ryan says it's so frustrating to

507
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Speaker 1: go against him. And the other thing that bothered me

508
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: from what I saw this game was Darrell reeves effort

509
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Speaker 1: on one of those Sammy Watkins long days, bobbling it

510
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Speaker 1: and Reeves starts jogging a little bit, and Reeves didn't

511
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Speaker 1: talk to the press after the game, which he's got

512
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Speaker 1: to be smarter than that, because it gives all the

513
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Speaker 1: columnists their little hook to say that Reeves didn't want

514
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Speaker 1: to I didn't want to talk because he's no longer

515
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Speaker 1: a guy they can walk to walk, that type of stuff.

516
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Speaker 1: But listen, I'd get it. There's not a it's not

517
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Speaker 1: a stunning loss in that sense. But every body, everybody

518
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: Gregg dreams to have that two thousand one Patriots season

519
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: where you're kind of like a good team, not a

520
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: great team, but then the fortune starts rolling in your

521
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: favor and all of a sudden you're playing in the

522
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Speaker 1: last Sunday. The Jets fan thought that this team could

523
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Speaker 1: be that team in a in a vulnerable year for

524
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Speaker 1: the a f C and the Patriots. I take back

525
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: my criticism of any Jets in the pain rankings thing.

526
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Speaker 1: When we mapped this out a few weeks ago sort

527
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Speaker 1: of half your most mostly jokingly. We mapped it out

528
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Speaker 1: in an NFL Network hit that I'm not sure ever

529
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Speaker 1: aired that the most painful way to do it, most

530
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: way to crush all the Jets fans the most would

531
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Speaker 1: be to beat the Cowboys, beat the Patriots, and then

532
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Speaker 1: Rex takes the same old Jets And thank you, a

533
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Speaker 1: sincere thank you to all the listeners that were super

534
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Speaker 1: nice on Twitter. I got hundreds of tweets of people

535
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Speaker 1: like sending condolences, and then there are a lot of

536
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Speaker 1: you know, dirt bag Pats fans. I declare vengeance against

537
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Speaker 1: all of you guys. Oh I blocked one of those

538
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Speaker 1: guys because he wouldn't he kept including us while he

539
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Speaker 1: was black. Two of those guys, I think they were

540
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: trying to make they will make fun fun making fun

541
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Speaker 1: of Dan. I didn't like that. Thank you, guys. I

542
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: really appreciate you guys. Your friends moving on. So, yes,

543
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: the Jets lose, and what do the Steelers have to do?

544
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: The scheduling gods smiled down and say we will give

545
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Speaker 1: you a match up against the chaos ridden Cleveland Browns

546
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Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and the Steelers took care of business. They

547
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Speaker 1: knock off the Brownson. I'm looking at Mark's right up.

548
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: The ridiculous Cleveland Browns wins. So the Steelers win combined

549
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: with the Jets lust puts Pittsburgh in The Steelers forget

550
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: about West of us. Christmas comes for West, who was

551
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: rooting for this very scenario. So I'm happy for us.

552
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm not happy for uh you, Marks. I know there's

553
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: nothing to be happy about in Cleveland. But let's talk

554
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: about the Steelers first. What did you see from them

555
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: today and what do you think about them as a

556
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Speaker 1: playoff team, which they now are. Yeah, let's talk about

557
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Speaker 1: the competent of the two teams in this game, and

558
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: it really you know, Pittsburgh like all these other a

559
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Speaker 1: f C playoff teams, they have their flaws and it

560
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: starts number one with we look at the Patriots. They're

561
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: banged up. D'Angelo Williams had his foot in the cast

562
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: after this game, which would be a tremendous loss for

563
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh because we saw what happened last year when you

564
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: took their running game away and they went into the

565
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: playoffs with a no namer And if that happens, they're

566
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Speaker 1: gonna have to rely entirely on Antonio Brown and Ben Roethlisberger.

567
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: The good the good news is is that that combination

568
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: is insane right now. Brown had ten catches in the

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Speaker 1: first half alone. I mean, what if you remove some

570
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: of these mistakes that Ben Roethlisburg has made the past

571
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. This passing game is one of the

572
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Speaker 1: strongest aspects of any team in the a f C

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Speaker 1: playoff race. Now they're incomplete in other ways, I I

574
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: have no you know, I'm not taking that away, but

575
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: Big Ben has to remove that move, the interceptions. They

576
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: they played a better team today. I'm not sure Pittsburgh

577
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: gets out of this one alive because no, No, three turnovers.

578
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: It's because you're playing in Austin Davis in a Browns

579
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: unit that is just not practiced well together much at all.

580
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: They turned three turnovers into three points. You're thinking if

581
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: as I was watching this, I kept telling you, Dan,

582
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: you may not what no matter what the Jets do,

583
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: you might see the Browns sneak out the back door

584
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,239
Speaker 1: the win here because of Pittsburgh could not heat up

585
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: early on. But then you know in the end effortlessly

586
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: three fifty yards through the air for Big Ben because

587
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: they're that kind of offense through the air and when

588
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: when you get down to it, and in Cleveland could

589
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: not stop them, and they got enough big plays to

590
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: put this thing away at the end. The Williams injuries

591
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: big But I don't worry about their offense at all.

592
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: It's their defense that I've seen too many good offensive

593
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: shred all season. They don't have a good secondary. No

594
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Speaker 1: they lose. They got rid of Dick lebou, which I

595
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: guess it was time, but that was kind of his gambit.

596
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlins a defensive coach now in theory. You know, okay,

597
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm really gonna put my stamp on it, you know,

598
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: hire my guy. And their defense isn't any better. It

599
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: hasn't worked it. Last week was a perfect example. Their

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00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: defense came up really small against Ryan Mallett. Today, I

601
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Speaker 1: guess they did a good enough job against the Browns,

602
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Speaker 1: But I disagree with what you said about the offense.

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00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: If Fitzgerald toussant Is you're starting running back, it just

604
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: makes you way more limited than when you add D'angela Williams,

605
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: who I thought was playing at a Pro Bowl level.

606
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: Toussant today twelve carries twenty four yards. They finished with

607
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: if thirty yards on the garden. Well, I mean, if

608
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: that hurts, I think I think that hurts. If they're

609
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,479
Speaker 1: not able to run the ball against a good defense

610
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: like Cincinnati next week they're gonna go to Cincinnati have

611
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: that rematch, it just makes them limited, and it makes

612
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger have less margin for air. He hasn't had

613
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: a few good weeks here, throwing some bad picks. I mean,

614
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Speaker 1: he was a big part of the reason they lost

615
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: last I think he's good and bad, but he is

616
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Speaker 1: turnover prone, which is an aspect of the last really

617
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: scene of you know, as a predominant thing for Big Ben.

618
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: They played a team today that has shown no ability

619
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Speaker 1: to adjust at halftime, and when D'angela Williams went out,

620
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: the game plan for Cleveland didn't change. But that's not

621
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Speaker 1: gonna happen in the playoffs in theory against better teams

622
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: that are gonna take advantage of that. I think the

623
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: Steelers are by far the biggest wild card of any

624
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Speaker 1: team in the playoffs. Uh As we start looking ahead

625
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: now to the final twelve teams, because I would not

626
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Speaker 1: be shocked if because by the way they got beat

627
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: by the Ravens and Ryan Mallett week sixteen, they let

628
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Speaker 1: a Browns team in utter chaos hang around way too long.

629
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Speaker 1: I mean we saw, you know, we could talk about

630
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Speaker 1: what's wrong with the Browns all day, but this is

631
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: the Browns are so ready to end the season that

632
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: they didn't even have like an opening, Like they didn't

633
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: have an introduction. They went from the locker room straight

634
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Speaker 1: to the sideline. You know, the coaches getting can, the

635
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Speaker 1: GMS getting Ken, I mean, and they still allowed this

636
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Speaker 1: team to hang around. I wouldn't be shocked at the

637
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Speaker 1: if the Cincinnati puts one on them, and I wouldn't

638
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: be shocked if they win this. I also wouldn't be

639
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: shocked if Pittsburgh won three playoff games in a row.

640
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen I've seen like the Ravens a

641
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago get hot after we wrote their

642
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: offense off in December. I'd like to apologize sorry to

643
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Speaker 1: Week seventeen for doubting it earlier this week saying it

644
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: was a lousy looking Week seventeen, because this ended up

645
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: being there was a lot going on, if nothing else.

646
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: When when I was on the old NFL Sunday Blitz couch,

647
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: Damnachek was talking about it's definitely not the name of

648
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: the show. It's over with now. Game Day was legitimately

649
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: talking off air because it was bothering so much whether

650
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: they should fire Tomlin if they lose this game, because

651
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: at the time they were losing, I think, you know,

652
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: Dave's got to calm down with that. At the end

653
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: of the day, when we were getting make up for

654
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: this show, no one can tell we're wearing it, but

655
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: as the contrast to the misery that you were going through,

656
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: which we feel for you. I was listening down the

657
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: hallway as Damna Check was in the green room. He

658
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: was just cackling, laughing because obviously this was like the

659
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: greatest after last week he was down the dumps and

660
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: fortune flips. So quick think that Check actually thinks he

661
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: lives in angsty like existence as an NFL fan. I

662
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: don't think he's quite aware sometime of what actual angsty

663
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: teams deal with. Well, let's talk about one of those. Yeah,

664
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Speaker 1: that's a good transition, Greg. Because the Cleveland Browns made

665
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: it official on Sunday. They fired Mike Patton. After the game,

666
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: he's gone. They fired Ray Farmer, the general manager, before

667
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: the game. Before the game, he's gone. Jimmy haslum Uh.

668
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: If you want to trace, you know, the roots to

669
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: what's going on, a lot of people can point to

670
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: ownership is saying this is all product. This dysfunction could

671
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: go all the way to the top. He had a

672
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: press conference on Sunday night before Sunday Night Football where

673
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: he discussed some of the issues begin with him. Uh,

674
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 1: but they're gonna get this figured out, but cautioned as

675
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: well that this is not a one year turnaround. This

676
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: is a rebuilder in Mark and I know you've heard

677
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: that too many times. Here we go again, another regime

678
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: out the door after two years. Well, and I don't

679
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: think any Browns fans should believe what comes out of

680
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: that building when they talk about patients. And we're gonna

681
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 1: take our time because a history tells us is that

682
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: if you're Jimmy Haslum, you're onto your fourth coach at

683
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: this point in in in not many seasons three or four,

684
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: season three plus and you're hiring your third and it's

685
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: the fifth Browns coach in in in since two thousand nine.

686
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: So if you don't succeed quickly, you're getting fired. You're not.

687
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: This is a terrible situation because with a bunch of

688
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: openings coming up, and many of them that have more

689
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, stability, you know front from the front office down,

690
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: with the quarterback situation and just the talented roster, this

691
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: team is gonna lose a bunch of free agents this year.

692
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: No one's gonna want to come here. What coach wants

693
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: to come into this situation? Because yes, it's the stuff

694
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: that's reported, but these people talk and if you listen

695
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: behind the scenes to what the climate is in Cleveland

696
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: and who was still is still around after this sweepout

697
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: is highly toxic. They announced, you know, significant things in

698
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: the Haslem press conference in terms of the power structure.

699
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: We call them disturbing things. Okay, did the the executive

700
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: new executive vice president who was formerly their lead counsel,

701
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: just their lawyer, their lead lawyer now is in charge

702
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: of football operations, m facing not his name right now,

703
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: Sashi Brown, Sashi Brown, So Sashi Brown's now Sashi Brown

704
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: is now running football operations and as final say on

705
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: the roster. He's going to be part of the team

706
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: that hires the coach, then the coach and Brown will

707
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: help hire the GM, although the GM, uh, it doesn't

708
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: really sound like a GM if they don't have final say,

709
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: and someone pointed out on on Twitter, well, then any

710
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: other team can tell them, no, he doesn't have to

711
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: interview for that job because he doesn't have final say.

712
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: That's part of the rules is though they're already limiting

713
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: themselves in terms of the type of guys that can hire.

714
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: And you know, and West is making as it makes

715
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: no sense, and there are different levels of fan pain

716
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. I'm just completely detached just as

717
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: a human being this point, because this isn't the first

718
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,479
Speaker 1: time I even got excited about the idea of hiring Patent.

719
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: Last time. I've had a lot of reason to think

720
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: it was a good young coach to get in there.

721
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 1: But at this time, I just don't see a team

722
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: or an organization that has enough unified thought to make

723
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: wise choices here or to attract talent. I I wish

724
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: I could believe you, Mark, because I know you well

725
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: enough that I know you'll always kind of be You'll

726
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: love the love affair. It's a little unconditional. I think

727
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: you'll always But I hope you're right. I hope you

728
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: do detach because it doesn't seem like I wasn't attached

729
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: this season. I told you or than ever here that

730
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: I was more than ever. I think you bought back

731
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: in at mid season. I listen, this is not I

732
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: think it's okay. I think Browns fans in general, like

733
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, at this point you need to see even

734
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: a real reason to hope, or you don't have to

735
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: invest in, spend your money and sittence and waste your

736
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: sundays watching a bad product. Here's a and I think

737
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: Mark you're a perfect example of this. Um you do

738
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: not like people taking shots using the Browns is comic

739
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 1: comic fodder because it's it's not funny, like what's happening

740
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: with the Browns. Everyone's getting a lot of yucks out

741
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: of it year after year after year, and it's happening again.

742
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: There's nothing funny about it. If you're a Browns fan,

743
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: it's tragic. Well, here's the reason I would say that

744
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: A lot are detached, and I'm detached. If I wasn't working,

745
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't working here, You're you're getting I mean, and

746
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I think it shows you're a good fan.

747
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: I don't really know what that means to be honest

748
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: at this point, but it's like I, if I wasn't

749
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: working here, I would not spend sundays after about late

750
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: September watching the product they put on the field. There's

751
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: so many better things to do with your life. You

752
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: don't have. You're not proving anything to anyone by sitting

753
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: around and watching this in the late December. And that

754
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: stadium was heavy with Steelers fans today, and that's what

755
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: it should be. The Browns don't deserve the sellouts they've

756
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: gotten since the product they put on the field. John A. Manzel, Uh,

757
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: you know reports came out afterwards, you know, Peter King

758
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 1: you wrote wrote on it that the Browns are done

759
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: with them him essentially after this we'll see, and that

760
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: he wants to go to Dallas as if he can

761
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: choose where he wants to go. So if that's really what,

762
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: if he's trying to get fired, I mean, the guy

763
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: is just a total train wreck. Yeah, well, I mean

764
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: Alice would be the right place to be able to

765
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: get away with that kind of stuff. I know, I

766
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: think we spend too much time on this team because

767
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: it's in theory my team, but I think that it's

768
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: no but in this this offseason, like they don't deserve

769
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: our attention. There's thirty one teams that want to win

770
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: more than Cleveland. As far as I can say, it

771
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: has haslm was so right putting on himself because it's

772
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: all on him because he hired Patton while Michael Lombardi

773
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: was still running the team, and then he files the

774
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: Bardi then hires a general manager who has no history

775
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: with Patton. They don't get along at all, and that relationship,

776
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: which they were battling for two years, ended up just

777
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: blowing up. Everyone's a loser, including HASLM. And it's a

778
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: exactly because of the way has Them went about things.

779
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: The Browns are the equivalent of the Making a Murderer

780
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: um series on Netflix, where you you plug in and

781
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: you're fascinated and horrified and disgusted, but you can't look

782
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: away because it's just it's kind of train wreck TV.

783
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: And and that's what the Browns are. Ever, Yeah, it does.

784
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: I feel nothing at that point. You're not gonna be

785
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: able to hur with that. But at this point you

786
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: ever seen a show the day after back in the eighties,

787
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: it was essentially what the Earth would look like if

788
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: a nuclear bomb went off in the middle of America.

789
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: That's what this is, Jason Robarts, That's where we're at, folks.

790
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: Moving on. So, yeah, the Browns are a mess. The

791
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers are really the other end of the spectrum.

792
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: They finished the season fifteen and one in style with

793
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: a thirty eight ten win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

794
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Uh The Wind clinches the number one seed

795
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: in the NFC for the Panthers. That's the first time

796
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: in France has history that they've done it. The Panthers

797
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: came into the NFL in the year was correct. Uh

798
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: so this is the first time in twenty years that

799
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: they pulled it off. And uh, you know, I watched

800
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: this game in kind of a a stupor depressed stupor,

801
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: but enough to have a couple of takeaways, and number

802
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: one would be Cam Newton locked up M v P honors.

803
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: Not that this was even really a race, but you

804
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: could put it to bed after this game. Another supremely

805
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: u efficient effort. Four touchdowns, two passing, two on the ground.

806
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: You look at his final season stats, he completed six

807
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 1: sixty percent of his passes, nearly four thousand yards, thirty

808
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: five touchdowns through the air, ten on the ground, six

809
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: and thirty six rushes. Uh, there's nobody that can come

810
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: close to that production, all around production. And then what

811
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 1: the team did going fifteen and one. And I'll say

812
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: that you know the other thing, Mike Shula, who I know, Greg,

813
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: You've never been a fan and of um now, yeah,

814
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: I think everybody's got to be a fan of him

815
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: now because you lose Calvin Benjamin, and you score five

816
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: hundred points in a season, which this franchise has never

817
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: done before. Number one offense in the league, number one

818
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: offense in the league. They scored thirty or more points

819
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: eight times this year. Um and that and that, And

820
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: they had a slow start. I don't think they even

821
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: did that in September. And then they just started rolling.

822
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't have Jonathan Stewart today, didn't matter.

823
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: They hung thirty eight on their opponent. And then you

824
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: added the fact that their defense led the NFL with

825
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: thirty nine takeaways, And it makes sense why they why

826
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: they flirted with perfection. This team is loaded. This team

827
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: has to be seen as the heavy favorite to win

828
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And uh, I don't know what else

829
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: can be said. I mean, the Panthers are have two

830
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: weeks off now and they're looking good. Cam Newton, did

831
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: you mention has the m v P sewn up? Now?

832
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: I did. That's how we started talking about this. I

833
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: think did you shut me out? I think if the

834
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: vote happened after last week, it would have been a

835
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: close race where Newton won anyways over Palmer and Brady.

836
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: And you're right now that the last week matters so much,

837
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: I think kill wouldn't solved by a landslide um. I

838
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: don't really have much to say about the Bucks other

839
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: than Jamis Winston finished with four thousand yards. He's only

840
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: a third rookie to ever do that. So uh. You know,

841
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: as guys like us who go through the entire news

842
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: cycle of the NFL all year, how much buzz and

843
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: inc And virtual Inc Was wasted on Jamis Winston being

844
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: a potential headache and nightmare. It looks like they got

845
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: their guys well. Bottom line, I think he saved about

846
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: forty people in that building their jobs. But what you

847
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: were saying about the Panthers, that's the answer to the

848
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: question who's the most dangerous team in the NFC? I

849
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: hate that question, who's the most date? Well, the Panthers

850
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: are there at home, and they've lost one game all year,

851
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: and they have the number one offense, and then they

852
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: have the m v P in the league, and they

853
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: have the coach of the Year. I disagree that they're

854
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: heavy favorites, you know, to win the Super Bowl. I

855
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: would put the Cardinals right there with them, and I

856
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: guess I would say to me a little spool, we'll

857
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: talk about the Cardinals a little bit later. But what

858
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: happened today? Um, and with the Panthers, I don't know.

859
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm giving the Panthers they're do here. Yeah, they deserve it,

860
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: but they're the most dangerous team because they've been the

861
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: best team and they're at home and they've got the

862
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: best player. Oh and by the way, all the people

863
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: talking about love Ea Smith as a Coach of the

864
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: Year candidate a month ago closed out the season with

865
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: four losses in a row with the playoffs on the line.

866
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: But he's safe when the when the rookie quarterback shows promise,

867
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: people keep their jobs, as Mark was saying, unless moving on. Um. Yes,

868
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: the the Arizona Cardinals entered Sunday with a chance to

869
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: potentially steal the number one seed in the NFC, and

870
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: they did not come close. So you know, Carolina holds

871
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: up their end of the bargain. They blow out their opponent,

872
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: and then Arizona puzzlingly, puzzlingly, lee puzzingly lee fashion pu

873
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: puzzingly lie in a quizzical fashion, get blown out thirty

874
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: six six the Seattle Seahawks beat them. I'm gonna die,

875
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: excuse me. Six in for the Seahawks who uh close

876
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: out the season at ten and six and Wes you

877
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: called this and are right up um one of the

878
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: most impressive, impressive performances of the year for the Seahawks. Yes,

879
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: they This was a one sided game, and it was

880
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: a mindset thing for the Cardinals. They did not enter

881
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: the game with the right mindset. They they played like

882
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: a team that had nothing to play for, even though

883
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: there was a scant chance they could still get the

884
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: number one seed. But they were out worked in every

885
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: facet of the game and to me, were mentally checked

886
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: out from the opening bell. Is that a concern? I

887
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: don't know. The sea. The Seahawks got out played by

888
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: the Rams last week and looked to be a concern

889
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: and they go out and blow the doors off the

890
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: Cardinals this week. So things can change from week to week.

891
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: It's a weird game because going into it, the conventional

892
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: wisdom was the Seahawks don't have anything to play for

893
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Do that, the Cardinals will be more motivated.

894
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: And so I don't think you can take anything away

895
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: from the Seahawks, and you weren't that They came out

896
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: and Carson Palmer's in the game in the first half

897
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: and they win the game. You know, thirty to six

898
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: in the first staff of the game is over at

899
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: that point, all the starters are in. So whatever the

900
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: motivation is, I don't know, but Seahawks had the motivation

901
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: to show everyone and to prove to themselves we are

902
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: a great team. We have been as good as any

903
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: team in the NFL for the last four years, as

904
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: good as any team really for a four year run

905
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: that any team has had in the last twenty years.

906
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: And the best team in the NFL for the last

907
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: eight weeks too, by the way, you know, right there

908
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals and the Panthers. So they proved it

909
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: and now they're gonna be tough to tough to beat.

910
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: So I'm willing to give the Cardinals of Mulligan just

911
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: because of the fact that in every other game this

912
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: season they've showed up, they've looked highly motivated. I mean,

913
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: this happens in the in today's NFL too. Good luck

914
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: finding more than one or two teams that do this

915
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: sixteen weeks in a row, three right, I mean, they've

916
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: been fantastic, and I do think that they're just as

917
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: dangerous as Carolina if they're playing at their peak. We'll see.

918
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: I agree with you on the Mulligan, and I still

919
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: think the Cardinals are a stud team. I think, what

920
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: are they won nine in a row, eight in a

921
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: row going into this game, but if they see Seattle

922
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, I feel like this game could have

923
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: some DNA that that could lead to Seattle having some

924
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: type of psychological advantage. I think it's one thing to

925
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: to win in Arizona, to blow him away. I think

926
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: that this really could have big, big factor in the

927
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: NFC playoffs that happened last year too. I mean that

928
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: was the different Cardinals team and not as healthy. Well,

929
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, they asked him after a game, you know

930
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: there's some talk the Cardinals. I don't know where this

931
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: talk comes from, the talk that the Cardinals would be

932
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: worried about you guys coming back here. And he was

933
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: just like they should be. You know, we'll get after him.

934
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: Who knows if the Seahawks will wind up matching up

935
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: against some matters on this. Well, this is also useful

936
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: for Bruce arians It's gonna be it's a pure motivation,

937
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: and it's it's a it's gonna get them refocused pretty

938
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: pretty easy. The hopeful. Part of my Patriots fandom was

939
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: thinking that with the Patriots in terms of, well, this

940
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: is gonna give Belichick plenty to harp on and be

941
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: miserable about for a couple of weeks, and sometimes they

942
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: respond to that billing needs anything to be miserable. Coaching

943
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: operates half the time either. But you know, I can't

944
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: wait to pick the Seahawks in the first round of

945
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs to win, because nobody wants to face them

946
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: right now. Russell Wilson. This is the best seven game

947
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: stretch in NFL history as far as touchdown to interception

948
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: ratio one and their defense for the four straight year

949
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 1: finishes with the fewest points allowed. This is a pretty

950
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: complete team. The moving on the Houston Texans are the

951
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: a f C South champions U J. J. Watt and

952
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: Whitney Merciless combined for six and a half set. Listen

953
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: to those guys, six and a half sacks, three fumble recoveries,

954
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: five tackles for loss, and a forced fumble a thirty

955
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: six win over the supposedly improving Jacksonville Jaguars. The Texans

956
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: will host the Kansas City Chiefs in the wild card

957
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: round in a wide open, they've a f C. We'd

958
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: be wrong to assume they're an easy out, right West.

959
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you saw what J. J. Watts gonna do

960
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: without a cast. Oh my good? He unblocking And do

961
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: you guys think that locks up Defensive Player of the

962
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: Year for him? I think realistically it does because I

963
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: think him getting into the playoffs and having the great

964
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: season that he did. I thought Aaron Aaron Donald had

965
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: my personal vote going into this last week, and he

966
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: had four quarterback hits today, so he didn't have a

967
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: bad game at all, and so I think it was close,

968
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: but I think I'll get it. I think this gave

969
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: him the sack title too. And you know what, Watch

970
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: should have won it two years ago. Uh so he's

971
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: owed one and now it's kind of even out. He'll

972
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: be the if he wins. He wins, he'll join Lawrence

973
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: Taylor is the only players ever to win it three times.

974
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: I will say, um, you know, on a note of

975
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: levity show that needs it. J J. Watt sack dance today.

976
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody saw that, And if you're

977
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: watching on YouTube you can check it out. You know,

978
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier in the season he had the

979
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: line about Andy Dalton and you know, being the the

980
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: pop gun quarterback, whatever it was, and you could tell

981
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: he clearly was practicing it in his uh hotel room

982
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: here uh here. He took every popular dance by NFL players,

983
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: a season celebration dance, whether it be after a sack

984
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: or a touchdown, and combine them into one dance. I

985
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: think he practices alone in a mirror for roughly seven hours. Still,

986
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: j J is still trying too hard. He had an

987
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: answer for that after the game. He said, if you

988
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: don't like it, be good at football, join the NFL

989
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: and do your own sack dance. That's cool. J. I'm

990
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: just saying you're trying too are. But that's all. I'm

991
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: not trying to be a bad guy about it. I'm

992
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: just saying, I I see what you're doing. You're trying

993
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: too hard. Sneaky hand. This heat been there all years.

994
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: It's been there all years. The Texans. I don't think

995
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs should be a huge favorite in this game.

996
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are playing close games against bad teams lately.

997
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: They'll the eleventh and twelfth least exciting teams played each

998
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: other in the playoffs. Not to rain on the Texans parade.

999
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 1: They've they've played well, especially the last two weeks, every

1000
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: time they get into the playoffs. That's been true of them.

1001
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: That's right, and West, I think, I don't know if

1002
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna be with me on this, but I'm gonna

1003
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: go out. Maybe you can join me. What apologize to

1004
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, because I know we had a lot of

1005
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: fun with Bob b o b with his his opening

1006
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: rant on hard knocks, and yes, he still messed up

1007
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback room early in the season, but this is

1008
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: a hell of a coaching job by O'Brien who took

1009
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: a completely decimated Texans team in a bad division. I

1010
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: get that, but to nine wins and into the playoffs,

1011
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien stud both of those statements can be true,

1012
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: and he botched the quarterback decision as badly as anyone's

1013
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: ever botched it. In Week one. You name a guys

1014
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: starter and pull him after to what two quarters? He

1015
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: totally botched it and then coached his butt off the

1016
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: rest of the year. We you know, we mocked him

1017
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: hard and this all the same team was down forty

1018
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: one nothing in the second quarter to the Dolphins, and uh,

1019
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: who's the Houston Chronicle, UM John McLean, John McClain, who

1020
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: I haven't heard from in three months now, was having

1021
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: a ball mocking this team. So all of a sudden,

1022
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: now they're a playoff team of the winning record. Just

1023
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, four and six outside of the vision, it's

1024
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: a nice season no matter what. You're winning games with

1025
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: Weeden and Hoyer. I've no name a few coaches that

1026
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: haven't done terrific job. Uh. Let's move on, gentlemen. UH.

1027
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs capped off one of the more

1028
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: unlikely UH streaks in NFL history, UM beating the Oakland Raiders. Seen.

1029
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: It was their tenth consecutive win, and here's their season mark.

1030
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: They win their opener against Houston, they lose their next

1031
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: five games, including that insane heartbreaker to the Broncos. Would

1032
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: have been nice if they had that win when you

1033
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: look at how the standings ended up shaking out. Then

1034
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: they win their final ten games, another a f C team.

1035
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: Maybe some people are looking past them, maybe they shouldn't. Well,

1036
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: I think West summed it up though, it's the Chiefs

1037
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: are what they are. But I think that well, Okay,

1038
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: here I would say Andy Reid, I wrote it in

1039
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: the thing today. He to me deserves a lot of

1040
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: credit for Coach of the Year, although he's not gonna

1041
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: win it because of the way these seasons played out

1042
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: in Carolina especially, But Andy Reid has saved his job

1043
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: when he probably could have been on the hot seat

1044
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 1: at that season. Continued off that one in five start.

1045
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: But they are they aren't dominating bad teams. They are

1046
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: winning these games as a complete team. Where today, for instance,

1047
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: they get off to a fourteen and no start, and

1048
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: it looked like it was just gonna end up in

1049
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: one of these maybe they are going to do at

1050
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: forty one nothing wipe out of the Raiders who don't

1051
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: have a lot to play for. It turned into a

1052
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: completely bizarre game that really required the Chiefs defense to

1053
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: tighten the screws for a long stretch against Derek Carr,

1054
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: but there a couple of whack he plays at the end.

1055
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: The Chiefs went for it on fourth down, had a

1056
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: completely ill fated, botched punt, fake punt attempt that gave

1057
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: the Raiders a chance to win this game. They're down

1058
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: by six with you know, a minute thirty two to go.

1059
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: Chiefs finally closed them down and that that said, forget it.

1060
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: I don't this game doesn't matter to me. Week seventeen.

1061
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: The Chiefs as a whole, what they've done with their backfield,

1062
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: and it's it's someone stepping up week after week. Alex

1063
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: Smith is sneaky mo boy. I think he doesn't get

1064
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: the credit he deserves. So what that that dimension of

1065
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: their offense, and he does just enough as as a

1066
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: quarterback through the air. I mean, they're banged up on

1067
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: defense and they had I think six sacks today. The

1068
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: huge part of their running game. He is the reason

1069
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: why they're one of the best rushing teams in the league,

1070
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: and he is one of the best rushing quarterbacks in

1071
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: the league, has been all year. Uh. I had be

1072
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: concerned about their offense going into the playoffs, especially against Houston.

1073
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll talk about that matchup moving forward. Their

1074
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: offense is taken on water over the last month. The

1075
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: offense is not played well. They're in the playoffs because

1076
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: their defense is number one in the league and in

1077
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 1: points allowed over the last Over this ten game span,

1078
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: they have not played a winning team since that Denver game,

1079
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: but they won that game easy and they've taken care

1080
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: of business. I mean they've They've done a great job.

1081
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: You can barely be Cleveland. But it's a defensive team.

1082
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: You're supposed to makes just enough drives and Macklin's turned

1083
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: out to be good. It's supposed to get Justin Houston

1084
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: back next week. Correct, I don't think that's for sure. Okay,

1085
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: well we did get time and then you go against

1086
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: the Texans offensive line with Dwayne Brown, their left tackle,

1087
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: one of the best tackles in the league, out with

1088
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: a torn quad. I think you're right. That's big. And

1089
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: I really do think Andy Reid isn't getting enough buzz

1090
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: for coach because ten wins in a row, no Jamal Charles,

1091
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: Justin Houston missing the last quarter of the year, not

1092
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: playing remarkably well as a team in the last month

1093
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: of the season. Yet they kept winning every game, which

1094
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: a mediocre team isn't supposed to do that. So he's

1095
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: doing something right. This is a good team that read

1096
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 1: has playing like an undefeated team, and it's pretty remarkable. Yeah.

1097
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: We spent the whole show saying that the a f

1098
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: C lacks a dominant power at the moment and it's

1099
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: very wide open, which it is, so yeah, why not

1100
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: the Chiefs except that I just can't get behind that

1101
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: until I see it happened. And I you know, it's

1102
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: not completely logical or fair to Kansas City, but you

1103
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: just don't see them as that team. Well, they got

1104
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: the right matchup though they did, they got a winnable

1105
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: first games. They're trafficking in the impossible though. I mean,

1106
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: this was a team that was one in five. The

1107
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: finish eleven and five, So it's like in a weird

1108
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: NFL season. I'm not ready to just assume they're not

1109
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: gonna make a run. We'll see what happens. It was

1110
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: a remarkable finish and again Andy Reid, why not more

1111
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: credit ridiculous and Marcus Peters finished out strong. I mean,

1112
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: their defense is good at every level. The Bengals, let's

1113
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: talk about they won't have a first round by but

1114
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: consider them. Uh, Chris Westling a victim of circumstance. Cincinnati

1115
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 1: tied a franchise record with its twelfth win after knocking

1116
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: off those frisky Ravens sixteen. The Bengals enter the playoffs

1117
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: is the three seed and a matchup against the Steelers.

1118
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Mal Man, we are less than a week away or

1119
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: a week away exactly, depending on how the schedule takes

1120
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: out from west of thissixt Bengals are in the wild

1121
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: Card game for the fifth straight year. My favorite holiday

1122
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL West divis It happens every year. The

1123
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: Bengals lose in the opening round and they're gonna lose

1124
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: this game too, because the Bengals can't have nice things

1125
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: like playoff victories. Got twelve wins. This is a dream scenario.

1126
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: I wanted this. I'm wanted to see the Steelers on

1127
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: west of this because I can't wait to pick Big

1128
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: Ben over a J McCarron in a playoff You and

1129
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: everyone else. That almost makes me think maybe the Bengals

1130
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: will do it, just because conventional wisdom. Everyone's gonna take

1131
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers in this game, don't you think. Well, it

1132
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: just seems like the upsite has a motivational bone in

1133
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: his body. He's going to ride it hard here because

1134
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: that will be the narrative. Oh, they can't, don't they

1135
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 1: can't do it. They lose every January in the first

1136
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: playoff game. The Steelers are great, They're gonna blow the

1137
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: doors off. Mccaren can't hang with Roethlisberger. Well, no, no, no,

1138
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: By the way, mccaren didn't convert a single third down today,

1139
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: not a single in the first half. How did how

1140
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: did he look? Overall? He he was a caretaker. You know.

1141
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: He had a really good throw to Tyler Effort down

1142
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: the scene for a touchdown, pretty good throw to A J.

1143
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: Green for a touchdown. But overall he was a caretaker

1144
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: and the defense was more impressive than the offense today.

1145
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: Vante's perfect, had his best game of the season, and

1146
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 1: to me showed that he's all the way back from

1147
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: microfracture surgery. That's the wone to ask you. Let's say

1148
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: you don't have D'Angelo Williams next week. If you're Pittsburgh

1149
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: and you're not playing the Browns who don't know how

1150
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: to make in game adjustments, and you've got the Bengals defense,

1151
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: which is I think the second best in the a

1152
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: f C, and you're playing Pittsburgh. Do you think that

1153
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: you give Cincinnati a chance to at least keep it close.

1154
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, we have plenty of time to get it.

1155
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: I just don't trust the Bengals. I don't know if

1156
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: anybody will. They just beat the Ravens. Steelers didn't do it.

1157
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: The Steelers beat the Bengals with a J. McCarron in

1158
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: there a couple of weeks ago. Let's check in on

1159
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: some of these dumpy games before we get to Sunday

1160
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: Night football. Uh Jamacus Sanford's interception uh in at the

1161
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: Atlanta twenty five yard line with less than two minutes

1162
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: to play set up a field goal as time expired.

1163
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: The Saints win over the Falcons on Sunday. Julio Jones

1164
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: finished that game with nine catches for a hundred and

1165
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: forty nine yards, moved into second place in the NFL

1166
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: single season records are both receiving yards and catches. To me,

1167
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: the only thing really to hit on right now is

1168
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: that Sean Payton is agon here. He is just for

1169
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: fun one last time this season. Um, you know, talking

1170
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: down to a reporter who he thinks he's better than.

1171
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: We got the players in tomorrow we got we gotta

1172
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: evaluate the roster. We've got a lot of things we

1173
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: gotta do. Um. If I feel the need to get

1174
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: you an itinerary, I will. But no, that's that's the answer. Though,

1175
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: that's the answer. That's the answer. You with me, I

1176
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: can't be more clear. Next question, what a bowl of

1177
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: laughs that guy is? And then he stomped out of

1178
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: the press conference after three minutes because he didn't like

1179
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: the questions. I kind of like it. He's funny, but well,

1180
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: it's funny, but you know when it's funny, like a

1181
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: guy is a jerk, and it's funny to laugh at

1182
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: what a jerky is two people, but have fun with that. Saints,

1183
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: that's your guy. Still in the future. Julio Jones sat

1184
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: more receptions, yards and touchdowns in the entire Rams wide

1185
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: receiver corps. Yeah, wow, Yeah. And I like Sean Payton.

1186
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: It's so double face just because he's doing it at

1187
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: the same time that his reports are coming out there.

1188
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to go to Miami, but he would

1189
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: go to San Diego. Another job that intrigues him is

1190
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: San franc San Francian Francisco. It's like he's he's even

1191
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: just thrown out there, like I like that job. That's

1192
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: covered him and Drew Brees are a match man in heaven.

1193
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: Let's face it. Moving on. Matthew Stafford through for two

1194
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns. Calvin Johnson had a hundred and

1195
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: thirty seven yards and what might be his final game

1196
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: with the Lions, and the Lions had over the Bears

1197
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: could be Jim Caldwell's final game, uh with the team.

1198
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: Detroit Um finishes seven and seven and nine, and they

1199
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: won six of their last eight games, so you know

1200
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: that's all well good, But when you start one and seven,

1201
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you do in the second half.

1202
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: Which one of these teams has the brighter future West?

1203
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: I think the Lions, no question, And I think Jim

1204
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: Caldwell should have his job saved. They finished He's not

1205
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: my favorite coach, but they finished out strong and and

1206
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: they were really good last you too, and everyone always says,

1207
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: so we'll keep Jim Bob Cooter. Well, when you fire

1208
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: your coach, you don't how often does the offensive coordinators

1209
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: stick around that that's completely thrown in a blender. And

1210
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: if he is that valuable, and it seems like he

1211
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: is to this, he's a young young play caller that

1212
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: they love. I mean, maybe you give this another year.

1213
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: He's eighteen and fourteen. It's weird that they fired the

1214
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: GM because like halfway through the season now, because now

1215
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: you have to hire another GM. And does he want

1216
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: called wood? But it's unfair to fire him after eighteen

1217
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: and fourteen. I mean, the only way that move made

1218
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: sense is if they really had something lined up nicely,

1219
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: if they're like just like everyone else. Now just it

1220
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: was kind of a strange move. But things are pretty

1221
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: dark in Detroit. I think it's easy to forget now

1222
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: when they were one in seven. Yikes. Moving on, Uh,

1223
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: Kissing Cousins time. Kirk Cousins through three touchdowns before leaving

1224
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: late in the second quarter, and the Washington Redskins finished

1225
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: the regular season with a thirty four three win over

1226
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: the Wofle Cowboys, who are getting a top five pick

1227
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: out of this season, a season where their loyal supporters

1228
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: and of course the front office thought they were a

1229
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: super Bowl team. Uh. And here is your Kissing Cousins

1230
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: stat of the day, guys. Which Cousins broke j Schrader's

1231
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: franchise record for yards passing in a season. He threw

1232
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: for four thousand, one sixty six Redskins four game winning

1233
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: streak going into the playoffs against We'll find out. We'll

1234
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: find out Sunday Night football. Good point. There you go, guys,

1235
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: Here you go. I'll tee you up, say something about

1236
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: nice about Kirk Cousins, and we'll move on. The Redskins

1237
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: organization has been around for eighty three years. Kirk Cousins

1238
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: not only through for more yards in a season than

1239
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: any other player, also has more combined touchdowns than any

1240
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: player in Redskins history thirty four touchdowns and he was

1241
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: in Fuego today. It goes to my theory that if

1242
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: you don't hang aard back, if you don't have a quarterback,

1243
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: draft multiple quarterbacks every draft, not just painting all your

1244
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: hopes on one guy, then don't draft one again. Look

1245
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: how this has turned out for Washington. How unpredictable. We

1246
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: never could have called this in two thousand twelve. That's

1247
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: gonna be a pushover for whoever plays him. And if not,

1248
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: they're playing. Really they're interesting. I mean people, you know,

1249
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: they didn't need to win this game, and they still

1250
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: just dropped a bomb on them for the first half

1251
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: and then took the guys out there. But what Dan

1252
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: Snyder should now do for the Washington football franchises try

1253
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: to get uh them moved into the a f C,

1254
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: where I think they would have a chance potentially NFC.

1255
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: It's a tough sledding in that. Well, they're in the

1256
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,479
Speaker 1: worst division in football, so you know out okay, yeah,

1257
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: everything's great moving on. Uh, Josh Freeman and Ryan Linley

1258
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: each through a touchdown pass. How about that? And Darrell

1259
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: Freeman scored on the twenty three yard pick in the

1260
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: second half. The Colts beat the Titans thirty to twenty four. Uh.

1261
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: As we know, the Colts needed a nine team parlay

1262
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: to steal the a f C South Hey, hey, playoff robit.

1263
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: How many of those did they get? They had at

1264
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: at halftime of the game they had seven of eight going.

1265
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: Texans were up against the Jaguars in that ruined it

1266
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: never had a chance. But I do like a world

1267
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: where Alex Tanney, trick shot quarterback extraordinaire, comes in for

1268
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: an injured right Zach Mettenberger and almost decided who has

1269
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: the number one pick in this draft. He came in,

1270
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: went right down the field for a touchdown. The Titans

1271
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: only down to three at that point, could have had

1272
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: the number one pick if they won the game, and

1273
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: we could have lost it. But Greg loves football. If

1274
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: we're talking about this game thirty seven more seconds than

1275
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 1: we had to because Greg just loved the action so much.

1276
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: Mark and I need to figure out if the proposition

1277
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: was Ryan Linley plays another game or starts another game.

1278
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: We'll look into that. I mean, can we just say

1279
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: thank God no more Indianapolis called see you later. And

1280
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: by the way, we will um a couple of things

1281
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: we gotta this week and the week coming up. We

1282
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: gotta talk about the fork. We have multiple charity donations

1283
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: to make UH in multiple cities across the United States.

1284
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: And also we will um at some point this week

1285
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: check in on all our sandwich props from the regular season.

1286
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: See who owes what I'm looking forward to that discussion.

1287
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: Let's move on NFC East Magic here. Walter Thurnan scored

1288
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: on a eighty three yard pick six and the third

1289
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: quarter and the Eagles, without Chip Kelly uh snuck by

1290
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: the Giants thirty five thirty. Another narrow loss for Tom

1291
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: Coughlin and what might have been his final game after

1292
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: twelve seasons with the Giants, although that's not a done

1293
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: deal from some stuff we're seeing out there that this

1294
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: could still be up in the air whether Coughlin will

1295
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: be back. But you can't hide from the facts that

1296
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: since the playoff the Super Bowl win over the Pats

1297
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: in the two thousand eleven season, the Giants have missed

1298
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs every year, and they went UH six and

1299
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: ten this season, their third straight losing season. Time for

1300
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: a reboot. One thing about the Eagles, zach Ertz has

1301
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: emerged as a star four and fifty yards receiving or

1302
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: the final four games, the most ever by a tight

1303
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: end in the final four games of a season. I

1304
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: love that. You know what's gonna happen. A bunch of

1305
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: shmows are going to draft them too high in their

1306
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: draft and then be ripping their hair out. But like

1307
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: what happened to December, zach Ertz making a deep candidate

1308
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: from two years ago. I think he's good enough to

1309
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: replicate that again. I'm just happy to see uh in

1310
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: an emotional day at the meadow ends that Pat Sherman

1311
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: gets to go out of winter. Yeah. That feels poetry

1312
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: to me. That's very That's right. Uh. Moving on the St.

1313
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: Louis Ramps, Congratulations guys, you fulfilled your destiny following nineteen

1314
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: sixteen and overtime to the forty niners, UH, thus ensuring

1315
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: another seven and nine season rout. Round of applause from

1316
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: they're on the end to go, I mean the the

1317
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: lengths that they went to to go to go seven

1318
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: and nine first of all, to lose it to lose

1319
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 1: to a team that fired its coach literally been it's

1320
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: after the game ended. Uh, they lost the six point

1321
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: lead in the second half, and then they did have

1322
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: a kick in overtime to take the lead that was blocked,

1323
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: and so I think they just let's not do Let's

1324
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: kick that one right into the line. Here's the kicked

1325
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: the snapper in the ass with the ball. That's what

1326
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: I heard. Here's the company that Jeff Fisher is keeping.

1327
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: This is from our researcher Law Murray. Since the merger

1328
01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy, only Dave shul and Loose Saban have

1329
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: been granted a fifth year after four straight losing seasons.

1330
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: And yet not only will Jeff Fisher be back, they

1331
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: couldn't wait to say he'd be back. The Rams are like,

1332
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 1: he's coming back, He's coming to l a. Maybe he's

1333
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: doing exactly what the plan inside that building is. Goes

1334
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: seven and nine. He is a genius. He is a methodical,

1335
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: precise genius. And now start the countdown clock to the combine.

1336
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: We're less less need who by the way, it helps

1337
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: you when you're a nine nine and a half physically

1338
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: goes up to that podium, looks better than everyone and

1339
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: and speaks with confidence, and everybody starts buying into it.

1340
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: And then Jeff Fisher comes out because he has respective

1341
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: people and he has expensive dinners with a competition committee,

1342
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: he says things that kind of makes sense, and then

1343
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: all of a sudden people are talking themselves into the

1344
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: rams again. But guess what, January four of two thousand seventeen,

1345
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: they'll be seven and nine again. Whether you in l

1346
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: A or St. Louis, deal with it. It's the truth.

1347
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: What else can say? I told you you'd get excited

1348
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: at the end of it, that the football it was.

1349
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: It's cathartic. And Jim Tom Suli yes has been dismissed,

1350
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: fired as the coach after the game. Uh, you know,

1351
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: talk about the ultimate patsy. Uh. He was brought aboard

1352
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: a team where half of the impact players left the team,

1353
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 1: many to premature retirement of Tom Suller does the best

1354
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: he can and quite frankly, five wins with this roster

1355
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: is kind of an achievement. I'm not gonna, you know,

1356
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: hand him a trophy, but you know, he did a

1357
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: nice enough job. Certainly didn't deserve to be a cand

1358
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: after one year, but he was given the task of

1359
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: rearranging the deck chairs and the Titanic, and when that

1360
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: task was over, he went down with the ship. Only

1361
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: the Browns were outscored by more points this year than

1362
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,479
Speaker 1: thet but they snuck out five wins. Anyways, humble brig

1363
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: which takes us anything else and Jim TOMPs we get

1364
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 1: into it a little later in the look, but we

1365
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: gotta get to think the top three disaster organization right

1366
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: now and they can fix it. Maybe they're hearing the

1367
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: Sean pay and stuff and they know behind the scenes

1368
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: that they can maybe get someone like that. But this

1369
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: is a fan base that where they were a couple

1370
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: of years ago to now what what has happened and

1371
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: what is there to clean? It wasn't long ago. West,

1372
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: You're sitting in that very spot called this franchise the

1373
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: vanguard of the NFL because they had everything, uh they're

1374
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: cooking up. Everything was working right and now every level

1375
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: and the guy, the guy who drafted all those players

1376
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: went to the Pro Bowls is running the show at

1377
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins and tread Balky has struggled. It looks

1378
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: like he's gonna stay. But this this change did inspire

1379
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: a strong candidate for sub tweet of the Year, all

1380
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: of two thousands subet the year. I know it's early

1381
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: in the year, but I think this one will hold up.

1382
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: From Jim Harbaugh tonight, do not be deceived. You will

1383
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: reap what you sow. Did he drop the mic? Good

1384
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: for you, you crazy son of a And he's right,

1385
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: I mean Tim Sulla. Tim Sulla took the hit for

1386
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: management failure. Above him he was he was a patsy.

1387
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: Moving on to Green Bay, Packers entered Sunday Night football

1388
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: with a chance to clinch another NFC North title. The

1389
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,439
Speaker 1: only teams the only thing standing in their way where

1390
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: the Vikings, a team that the Packers are roundly or

1391
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: soundly defeated a month earlier. But like we've seen in

1392
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: the whole second half of the season, the Packers are

1393
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: not a team you can trust. And then we saw

1394
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: it again. They fell behind twenty three in their building.

1395
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: They they uh you know, they launched a comeback. They

1396
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: get it to within and near the goal line where

1397
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers gets picked off, uh intercepted, while uh you know,

1398
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: targeting James Jones near the end zone. They get one

1399
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: last chance at the end of the game, a Aaron

1400
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: Rodgers hell marry again, targeting Richard Rodgers this time Uh,

1401
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: no dice. So the end the when the dust clears,

1402
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: it is a twenty thirteen Vikings win. The Vikings um

1403
01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: finished the season as the NFC North Champions, which means

1404
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: they will host a home game against the Seattle Seahawks.

1405
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: Uh next weekend, the Packers will travel to d C

1406
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: to face the Redskins. So I'll let's start there. Who

1407
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 1: gets the better end of this? I know that the

1408
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: Vikings just won the division, but do you really want

1409
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 1: to be facing the Seahawks. Why don't you rather get

1410
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: the Redskins? Yeah? I see the Vikings. I think one

1411
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: of the most impressive games of any team all year

1412
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: was the beating the Seahawks put on the Vikings in

1413
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:29,560
Speaker 1: Minnesota just a month ago. That's a tough matchup for Minnesota,

1414
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: it is. But this is a team in the second

1415
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 1: year of Mike Zimmer who hasn't had a lot of success.

1416
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: I mean, the franchise hasn't had a lot of success

1417
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: over the last five or six years. To win a

1418
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: division title and you get the gatorade bath on Zimmer

1419
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: and this was the title. We did not think they

1420
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 1: were gonna win as recently as a few weeks ago.

1421
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: That is success in itself. That is a successful season.

1422
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: So maybe there's no shame to losing to Seattle next week.

1423
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: There this team I don't think is going to the

1424
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: super Bowl anyways. But there's a comfort in knowing what

1425
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 1: you are. They're a team that knows what they are.

1426
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: They're pretty much the same every week. They're a team

1427
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 1: that can win a game in green Bay, even though

1428
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater only throws for nine yards. Yeah, I think

1429
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, the better team one tonight,

1430
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: and I don't really trust Green Bay to do more

1431
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: than they did this evening, which is scored thirteen points.

1432
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't think that they have

1433
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,440
Speaker 1: an easy situation against the Washington next week. The Redskins

1434
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: are white hot, and you're right about the Vikings. I

1435
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: look at them as this is a two or three

1436
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: year situation with Zimmer. This is year one of you know,

1437
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: it's a second year coaching. But they make the playoffs

1438
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 1: and their team on the up swing, and they're not

1439
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: gonna go do it all this season. Nice first step, though,

1440
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: of course, you want to win this. If I would

1441
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: have told, if I would have privately told Mike McCarthy

1442
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: before kickoff today that I'm from the future, which admittedly

1443
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,759
Speaker 1: would be a big storyline right off the top, McCarthy,

1444
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: if I would have told him, you were gonna hold

1445
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridge order to ninety nine yards passing an interception.

1446
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna hold Adrian Peterson under seventy yards. Their leading

1447
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: receiver would have three catches for thirty three yards, and

1448
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: he's still get beat. You're scratching your head. You cannot

1449
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: you can't believe it. It doesn't make any sense. But

1450
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: that such is the life with the Packers now, who

1451
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: have a bad offense, and it it goes all the way,

1452
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: it goes all the way through the organization. How this

1453
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 1: could have happened this season, But also some of it

1454
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: has to fall on Aaron Rodgers, and I know, you know, no,

1455
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson, we've heard that, uh, you know, until we're

1456
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: six our stomachs at this point. But Aaron Rodgers has

1457
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: not been able to lift this offense. And he's been

1458
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: culpable as anyone. We knew a month ago that this

1459
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: was a flawed team. And I think We're starting to

1460
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 1: figure out now that they can't be trusted to beat anyone,

1461
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: no bad teams, good teams. They can't be trusted to

1462
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: beat the Redskins. I mean they're lucky they beat the Lions,

1463
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: they get even the win they had against the Raiders.

1464
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: I don't think they played very well. They have not

1465
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: played well since Week three or four, and that was

1466
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers pulling off crazy plays. I don't think it

1467
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 1: was the team playing well. The Vikings know what they are.

1468
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't think the Packers know what they are because

1469
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: they are just used to racking up off punts of

1470
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: numbers in the passing game, and now that they can't,

1471
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: it's like they have no other move to go to

1472
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: and they just seem confused. Not a great home team

1473
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: this year either, So this idea that well they lose

1474
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 1: Lambeau Fields for potential playoff run, they weren't great. I

1475
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 1: don't think they want a division game at home this year.

1476
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 1: That's outrageous in a in a in an Okay division

1477
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: that they didn't win one home division game. I don't

1478
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb and Davante Adams have to be on any

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Speaker 1: list of the most disappointing players in the NFL this season,

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Speaker 1: and their leading receiver, James Jones. It might be the

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Speaker 1: slowest wide receiver in the NFL. All right, let's take

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Speaker 1: a look now at the schedule and West. I know

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Speaker 1: you're excited. Let's just west of this is landing on

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Speaker 1: a Saturday night look out. I don't know. We might

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Speaker 1: have to, Greg, you might have to hire some type

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Speaker 1: of like a bodyguard to watch over West if West

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Speaker 1: of Its gets too crazy. Well west of this of course,

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Speaker 1: for people that don't know the Bengals first round matchup,

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Speaker 1: we talked about it earlier, Bengals Playoff. Did I miss that? Yes,

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Speaker 1: we did, but that's a that's right. The good thing

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Speaker 1: about the West Coast Stow is you know it'll start

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Speaker 1: at five thirty, eight thirty, so we got we got

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Speaker 1: a little bit of time to play with. It's interesting

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Speaker 1: this year a f C games being played on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: NFC games being played on Sunday. That's the first time

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Speaker 1: ever I think, and then since I've been a fan

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Speaker 1: where they didn't split up the conferences both Saturday and Sunday,

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Speaker 1: with Green Bay and Washington in the late games Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Seattle in Minnesota early games Sunday, So a lot of

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Speaker 1: good football. We're down teams, teams, how many games? I

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Speaker 1: don't know, a lot of games. Twelve teams, eleven games,

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Speaker 1: four weeks a week. Don't take my heat. That's all

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Speaker 1: I got left. Now, Well that's making it. Uh. Let's

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Speaker 1: end the show now because I need to go home.

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Speaker 1: Whiskey could be involved. We will be back Tuesday with

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Speaker 1: another episode of the Around the NFL podcast, where we

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Speaker 1: will uh start talking about these uh, these twelve teams

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Speaker 1: that are off, and we'll also, you know, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about our sandwich props from the regular season, touching on,

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Speaker 1: as I said, um our charity endeavors that we need

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Speaker 1: to dig into. It's gonna be a busy showing a

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Speaker 1: lot of coaching changes are good point, Greg Black Monday

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Speaker 1: uh coming up in less than three hours here on

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Speaker 1: the West coast, So it keeps rolling. It ain't over yet,

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Speaker 1: so make sure you tune in. Thank you to everybody listening.

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Speaker 1: You can check this show out on YouTube and uh

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Speaker 1: also on NFL now and you can also get us

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Speaker 1: at NFL dot com, slash podcast Stitcher. Where else where's

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Speaker 1: that Stitcher world? No one knows but let's get out

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Speaker 1: of here. That's what Mark, Let's get out of here.

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Speaker 1: It's time to go. It's time to go home. Another

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Speaker 1: day with the NFL is over. This is Dan Hansis

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Speaker 1: signing off four Quiet Storm, the mail man, the boss,

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Speaker 1: Big be behind the glass. This day's over until Tuesday

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Speaker 1: high in Hello football fan, your old til Dave Damask here.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you check out the Dave Damage Football Program.

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Speaker 1: You can watch it on YouTube, NFL dot com. You

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Speaker 1: can listen to it on iTunes or Stitcher, or NFL

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Speaker 1: dot com. Slash podcasts who look at the world of

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Speaker 1: pro football and in cold life