1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now Moved the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, Welcome to the Move the Sticks Podcast 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: presented by the Ford f Series DJ Bucky. Here down 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: in Mobile, Alabama, where it's been a busy day of practice, Buck, 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: But even before practice, we've got a chance to talk 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: to some of the more intriguing names in this draft. Yeah, 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: we did. We had a chance to have some interesting conversations. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Josh Allen stopped by Luke Falk think about Mason Rudolph 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: also having a conversation, and then Marcus Davenport, one of 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: the guys that a lot of people haven't heard about, 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: but surely one of the guys that may hear his 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: name called on the first night. Yeah, and overall, it's 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: a good group down here at the Reese's Senior Bowl. 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: We've seen the one on ones to day I thought 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: were fascinating, Buck. I thought Davenport, who you're gonna hear 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: from a little bit later on in this episode, was outstanding. Um. 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: Some small school guys stepped up to the plate and 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: and had big days. It was overall, I thought a 19 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: really impressive day one. Yeah, I thought it was a 20 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: very impressive day one. I think the day, the first 21 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: day is always the toughest day because you have the 22 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: nerves and anxiety and all the things that kind of 23 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: prevent guys from showing themselves at their best. But I 24 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: think as the week goes on, we'll see some of 25 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: these guys pop out and be stars. At the end 26 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: of the week. By the way, we'll have we'll have 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: some recap stuff we can tell you about who we 28 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: liked and who was great, who struggled, and everything else 29 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: in between. But I think I think we gotta just 30 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: jump into some of these interviews here and starting with 31 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, who you'll hear for yourself. I'm anxious to 32 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: get some feedback on Twitter. Just hit us up at 33 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks at Moved the Sticks and let us know 34 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: what you think of Josh Allen, because I think he's 35 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: got a real interesting personality. It's a fascinating story, and 36 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: we want in a lot of areas in this chat 37 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: here with the Iman quarterback Josh Allen, one of the 38 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: most intriguing quarterbacks the entire draft class. Gonna hear a 39 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: lot of conversation about this dude as we march forward. 40 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: First question for me, Josh, is just all the noise 41 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: that's been out there from you before the season, during 42 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: the season, and now it picks up again. How are 43 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: you able to block all that stuff out? You know, 44 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: playing football is what I love to do. And when 45 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm on the field and when I'm you know, doing 46 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: what I love to do, none of that really matters. 47 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: And I understand that. I know a lot of people 48 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: have many mixed emotions about me, and they have a 49 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: lot to say. But you know what, I can care 50 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: less to be honest, you know, I'm gonna go out 51 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do my thing and I'm play uh football. 52 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: How I know how to play well? How you know 53 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: how to play football is really outstanding in terms of 54 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: your skill set, the tools that you bring to the table. 55 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: I was at your bowl game, had opportunity to watch 56 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: you play. Came out like a household fire. You showed 57 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: everything that people want to see. So when you do 58 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: the self analysis on what you bring to the table, 59 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: what does Josh Allen bring to the table at the quarterback? 60 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: You know, you see the competitive competitiveness that I bring 61 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: to the game, and I'd like to pride myself over that. 62 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: I think if you go and ask any of my 63 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: teammates what you know, the thing that sticks out about 64 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: me is gonna be my competitive nature. And you know 65 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: that's what I try to preach the team. Um you 66 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: see the arm strength and mobility, um, the ability to 67 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: throw on the run and stuff like that. I understand 68 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: that there's some flaws in my game and there's some 69 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: things that gott to fix and I'm working on to 70 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: fix them. But you know that's gonna take time. And 71 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: you know, I definitely don't think I'm the perfect prospect, 72 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: but I definitely think that paired with the right group 73 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: of coaches and um, you know, training wise, throughout this 74 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 1: whole process, you know, things are gonna go really well 75 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: for me. I want to know what Sunday and Monday 76 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: were like for you this year, because I saw you 77 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: take some monster shots and just kept keep coming back, 78 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: keep coming back, keep coming back, and it looks a 79 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: lot that's in the pocket. Then some of it is 80 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: your own when you get out and run and finishing 81 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: runs like you're thinking marrying Butts or something that you like. 82 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: That old school book was very NOA. He was a 83 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: good running back for the Chargers back in the day. 84 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: No how did your body feel after games? This year? 85 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: Most games were pretty good. There was a few games 86 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: a few games though that Monday decided to, uh, you know, 87 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: talk to coach and he helped me out of practice. 88 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: But you know that that's just part of the game. 89 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: You know, this game is beautifully violent, and I keep 90 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: telling that to people in UM. You know, with all 91 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: the discussions going on about player safety and concussions and 92 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know, you decided to make the 93 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: choice to play this game for the reason that you do. 94 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: And I love this game. You know, I'm gonna continue 95 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: to play this game. And uh, you know, getting hits 96 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: part of the game. So that's why I love it. 97 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: You know, you really made a courageous choice. Like you 98 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: were injured at the last part of the season, you 99 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: elected to come back and participate in the bowl game. 100 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: What led you to play in the bowl game? You know, 101 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: I felt that I owed that to my teammates. I 102 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: felt that I owed that to my coaching staff. UM. 103 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: Obviously they were the only team to offer me out 104 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: of junior college, and it's something that I wanted to 105 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: do for them. Was you know, finish my last game 106 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: on a high note and coming back and playing with 107 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: my brothers for one more game. Um, you know it 108 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: went spectacularly. Was you know, a great team win. You 109 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: know it was. It was something fun to play in. 110 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: And I said this after the game in the interview 111 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: that I'm not myself when I'm not playing football, So 112 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: I needed to be back on the field because that's 113 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: what I love to do. How is this offense preparing 114 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: you for the next level? You know, it's it's very similar. 115 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: I think the termprenology is a little different. The things 116 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: that we do, the concepts that we run, um killing plays, 117 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: run checked passes and stuff like that, or run pass checks. 118 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: You know it. It's something that's going to translate very well. 119 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: I've talked to Carson Wentz and he ran the same 120 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: offense that we run Wyoming, and he said the transition 121 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: that he had was fantastic. You know, it's just a 122 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: bit of a change in terminology and you know there's 123 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: a lot more wording in the NFL. But um, you know, 124 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: he he handled all that stuff. You know, I'm not 125 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: saying with ease, but probably better than most other people. 126 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: Probably be the MVP if you didn't get hurt this year. 127 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: So I want to go back because I think it's fascinating. 128 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: You talked about only one offer coming out of JUCO, 129 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: talking about the process of ending up there whoming like 130 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: just kind of lead us to how you got to 131 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, So high school, I was in a 132 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: small school. You know, it's probably five to six hundred 133 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: kids in the whole school. Um, just not a lot 134 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: of visibility for college coaches to get out then recruit 135 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: our area. I was kind of a late bloomer, probably 136 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: six five pounds coming out of high school as a senior, 137 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: so you know, I put in put on a good 138 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: twenty pounds and probably grew about an inch and a 139 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: half going into my first semester at JUCO, which was 140 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: which was pretty big, you know. Um. Then obviously it 141 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: didn't start the first three or four games at my 142 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: junior college, and you know that sometimes it was just 143 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: like I don't know what's going on. I don't understand 144 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: why I'm not playing. You know, I stuck to the process. 145 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: I I trusted, you know, what my family was telling me, 146 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: what my coaches were saying. UM. Very patient the whole 147 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: process and got my chance and never looked back. And 148 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: there was a few teams coming out and talking to 149 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: me and seeing me, but nothing too serious, and why 150 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm in calling and said we're gonna fly you out 151 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: and off you and you know it was done. Deal 152 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: in two weeks. I'm gonna I'm gonna test your memory 153 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. So I called his game this year 154 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: against Texas State. I went down there and we'ch had 155 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: a little bit before the game down there on the field, 156 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: and then I'd gave you just a couple of things 157 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: just from watching tape that that I saw. Just if 158 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: you can remember one thing, Humber, one thing that I 159 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: told you on the field before they finishing play finishing, 160 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: run finishes, run fix. So I wouldn't saw him after 161 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: the game. I was like, hey man, nice job out there. 162 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: You go. You see my run fix QB coach. Look, 163 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't need a QUB coach. I just did a 164 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: little little little thing and he he cleaned it up. 165 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: So to their point, it's funny because I went out, 166 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: I was at your game early at the bowl game, 167 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: and so I have never seen a quarterback put on 168 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: an exhibition in pre game. You guys were like at 169 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: the fifty yard line throwing god balls. We called it 170 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: scouting crack to finish it all. That's how you guys. 171 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: You always kind of a kind of display. That's that's 172 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: that's a warming deal. It was unbelievable to watch you 173 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: drop the ball in the bucket fifty yards away to 174 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: wide receivers streaking down right in front of the popline. 175 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: I I just had never seen anybody. Well, that's what 176 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: we do before every every game, after we get our 177 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: punt formation out, you know, the receiver staying at the 178 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: guard line. I dropped back and then I checked that 179 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: thing up there. You know, I think before pre game, 180 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: when we're doing like our single stuff is actually when 181 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: I actually get my real thrown in. Yeah, that's when 182 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: I kind of pushed the ball a little further. Actually, Yeah, 183 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: because I was there, I was like, this dude is like, 184 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's easy to talk, easy gas. Just yeah. 185 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: I just had never seen anyone like, you know what, 186 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: I don't know who's here, but I'm would just let 187 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: them know. It reminded me of being in high school 188 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: and doing basketball one up, where you want to show 189 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: everybody that you can don't, but you can't really don't. 190 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: So I was like, Josh, all is out here? Did 191 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: you in high school hoops right, you play ups in 192 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: high school, you know, some of them had the backboard 193 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: that was right at the rim where it stopped, and 194 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: some of them had the glass. I like the ones 195 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: below because I get the double tap on laid up 196 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: as that was my jam. Absolutely all right, I want 197 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: to get it. This is two nice Let's get to 198 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: some tough stuff here. So going back through, I went 199 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: and looked at a cut up of all your third 200 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: and six plus, right, so you kind of eliminate these 201 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: are this is big boy football challenging. So the two 202 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: things that that I came away with the said, Okay, 203 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing how Josh improves in these 204 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: two areas, and I want to get your thoughts on 205 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: him and what your game playing episode, uh one was 206 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: I thought there were times where you got stuck. So 207 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: you're working through your progression, you got kind of locked 208 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: and you got stuck a couple of times. That was one. 209 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: And the second thing I noticed was your arm is 210 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: so big at some point and sometimes I see you're 211 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: just getting a little over at that time. Give me 212 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: your game plan, what where I am with that, where 213 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: you are with that, and where you go forward. Yeah, 214 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: So going back to getting stuck on reads and you know, 215 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: getting into my second and third reading my progression. Sometimes 216 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: I just felt that, you know, I'm sitting here, I'm 217 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm ready to get hit. You know, I feel like 218 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: I didn't trust my line enough. Um. There's some instances 219 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: where obviously I saw a color and had to flash 220 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: and get out, and uh, you know that was just 221 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: kind of the result of you know, um, you know, 222 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: feeling bullets around me. And then it's constantly what I 223 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: felt going back to high school. That's what I've done. 224 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: You know, I've seen in flash and color, I'm getting out. 225 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to make a play. So that that's 226 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: one of the emphasis that I tried to make this 227 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: year was trying to stay in the pocket and go 228 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: through my reads, and um, you know, there to a 229 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: certain point I did that, but when I got to 230 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: probably number two and three, most times it was like 231 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: he's not coming open, and I don't know if I 232 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: can get to this fourth one, So I don't know 233 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna hold onto this ball 234 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: and not forced to turn over. Um. Yeah. So and 235 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: then um, I was the second just like like some 236 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: hero throws, just where you just saying Okay, I can 237 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: get it, and I think I can get it, not 238 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: get that one. Yeah, I mean that's just kind of 239 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: knowing the limitations of playing quarterback and the type of 240 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: bond that I have. Obviously it's it's a bigger arm. 241 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: And you know, I experience a lot of you know, 242 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: failure my first year, you know, seventeen interceptions I elimitated, 243 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: eliminated most of those. I threw six this past season, 244 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: and that was just me knowing that there's some throws 245 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: that I can't make. There's some throws that I shouldn't make, 246 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: holding on the ball, throwing the ball away a lot 247 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: more of this past season is what's kind of helped 248 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: me out. But obviously continuing UH to kind of handle 249 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: that process. UM, coming up to the combine and being 250 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: able to tell everybody about this is um, you know, 251 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: really what I'm trying to do. So I know you're 252 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: gonna get this. Being in this profession. We've both been in, 253 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: so we know the question you're gonna get. People are 254 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: gonna try and get under your skin, and the question 255 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: is going to be every time you guys stepped up Nebraska, Oregon, Um, 256 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: what's the other Iowa? So you're gonna get that they're 257 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: gonna see five teams. If that riles you up, they're 258 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: gonna try and get under your skin. What's been your 259 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: answer so far? I'm sure you'vely have you already got 260 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: that already? UM A few times? Yeah, And uh, you know, 261 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: I just understand that sometimes in those in those games, 262 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: I felt that I needed to make more plays than 263 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: I probably should have. And you know, I hold myself 264 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: to I understandard and I understand that when we step 265 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: on the field that you know, this game is it's 266 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: gonna be tough one and I gotta go out there 267 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: and make plays. And sometimes I pressed, um and I 268 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have, you know. But at the same time, 269 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: you look at the Mountain West team and you look 270 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: at Power five teams, Um, I wouldn't say they're all 271 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: that much different. You know. They they've got depth in 272 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: the Power five and one guy can go out and 273 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna replace him with somebody that's not gonna miss 274 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: a step. When Mountain West, it could change a team, 275 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: it could change a defense. So UM, you know it's 276 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: I understand that the question is gonna come up, and 277 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: I know the stats don't look good against Power five teams, 278 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: but we played some some pretty good teams and uh, 279 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: you know Iowa this year was they were a damn 280 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: good football team on defense, and they had some really 281 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: good players in Josh Jackson and Jose Jewel. That's the best, 282 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, defensive player I've ever played against. He was 283 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: all over the field, and um, they were able to 284 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: get some pressure on me. And you know, when I, 285 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: like I said, when when I feel those live bullets 286 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: coming at me, there's one instinct for me, and that's 287 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: to get out. And that's what I'm trying to tame 288 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: in this next process. Okay, so let's let's take all 289 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: of that. So all of those experiences, those big game experiences. 290 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: Now we're in the senior ball So now you're playing 291 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: against the best of the best. But the difference is 292 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: you have some dudes with you. So how do you 293 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: harness that gun slinger mentality that you kind of developed 294 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: because you're kind of been on underman squads to now 295 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: you're dude with a bunch of dudes around you that 296 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: you can let them kind of do what they do. 297 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: How tough is that going to be for you to 298 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: change your mindset? I don't think it's gonna be too 299 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: too tough. Um, you know, the big thing and this 300 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: is just trusting and those around you. And and obviously 301 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: we got some guys that are gonna go make some 302 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: plays when I'm throwing the ball up and they've got 303 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: a big catch radius. Mostly. I know, we've had a 304 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: couple of six five six six guys at the white 305 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: out position. We've got some really good dudes at tight 306 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: end to UM. So, I mean, it's just gonna it's 307 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: gonna be fun being able to throw these guys and 308 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: understand that, you know, these are the type of guys 309 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: that gonna be thrown with for my um NFL career 310 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: and this kind of where it all starts. Okay, so 311 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: now we we have that that you're surrounded by guys. 312 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: But let's talk about that quarterback rom because you have 313 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of alpha dogs in the quarterback room. Everyone 314 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: is gunning for that top spot. How are you going 315 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: to handle the internal and external pressure of I'm competing 316 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: with dudes while we're still in this game to kind 317 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: of get it done. You know, I'm gonna be myself 318 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: and I definitely think when I'm on UM, I'm one 319 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the nation. I think I'm 320 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the nation when them on And 321 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, that's what I've been kind of dealing with 322 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer these past a few weeks is cleaning up 323 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: my throwing motion, the mechanics, everything like that. And when 324 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: I've got a good stroke, when I'm when I'm consistent 325 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: with my stroke come from me and to consistently throw 326 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: the ball with accuracy. Uh So that's what it kind 327 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: of comes down to. Everybody knows that I've got, you know, 328 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: the strong arm. They know I can throw the ball 329 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: how many you know, how many every yards? Um, I 330 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: think this is the time where you know, it takes 331 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: some takes them off of it and try to show 332 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: people that I can place the ball where I want 333 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: to place it when it needs to be placed. There. 334 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: You mentioned Jordan Palmer. You now Sam's working out down 335 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: there to Sam Donal. What's your relationship been like with 336 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: Sam and going through this process with him. It's been great, 337 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: it really has been. And um, you know, Sam's a 338 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: great kid, he comes from a great family. And being 339 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: able to go out there and compete against him and 340 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: it's two is um you know, highly regarded as we are. 341 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: There's no tension, and we understand that we both have flaws, 342 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: we both want to be better, and we both you know, 343 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: do things better than each other. And uh, you know, 344 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: we're just trying to raise our levels because ultimately we're 345 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: not competing against each other right now. We know that, 346 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: and we understand that, you know, somebody's gonna go higher 347 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: than the other, and uh, that's that's all perfectly fine 348 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: because it's not about going higher. It's going to the 349 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: right team. And we understand that completely, no question, buck 350 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: and jump one more here real quick from me. Have 351 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: you met Have you met Baker here yet? I have 352 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: not yet? You have you met him before? Never? So 353 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: this for those who don't know, you guys are gonna 354 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: be on the same team coach by Denver Broncos. Correct, 355 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: So you're gonna get a chance to talk about competing. Man. 356 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: You you guys might be competing for the team for 357 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: that for that spot, for that position in the draft. Um, 358 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: how how fun is that? Gonna be just a competitor 359 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: and you're getting to know, Hey, I gotta do right 360 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: next to me. We're joking for a position here. I 361 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: love it. I love competing and That's why I love 362 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: football because you get to compete in every aspect on 363 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, who's learning the playbook better and faster and 364 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: then going on the field, who's making the better throws 365 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: and understand that you know the concepts that we're running. 366 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: So it's it's gonna be great. And that's the reason 367 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: why I came here is to compete. You know, I'm 368 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: not gonna, you know, sit down and bow down to anybody. 369 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: So this is it's gonna be fun. I heard it 370 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: bowed down. See it always comes out like we talked 371 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: about it, like, oh, Alpha's we're gonna be fine. It changed, 372 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: It has changed when you get on the field. So 373 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: if you had one goal that you want for the week, 374 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: what do you want scouts to walk away from thinking 375 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: about Josh Allen? This guy is gonna figure it out. Um, 376 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be He's gonna be the guy. 377 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: And that's what I want people thinking. Um, you know, 378 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: I want people to see the type of person I am, 379 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: and I like, I pride myself on that my parents 380 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: raised me the right way, and I'm gonna treat people 381 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: with respect. You know that that that that they deserve. 382 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: So you know, just getting in there and meeting all 383 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: the guys and um, trying to develop some relationships with everybody, 384 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, just going out there and balling out. 385 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's put you in a situation. Games on 386 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: the line. UM, let's say it's even the Senior Bowl 387 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: this week. You got a chance last drive going on 388 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: and win the game. Play call that you're familiar with, 389 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: the route that you like. What ball do you want 390 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: to throw as the walk off winner? I'm in depending 391 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: on coverage, if we're going whatever you want, what we're going, 392 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: gun right out six to come with falcon right, our 393 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: falcon gun right out six, come with falcon left. I'm 394 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: throwing the inside faith on the left side, faiths from 395 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: the inside. Buck. We talked about it forever we do. 396 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: We take candy from a baby. It really is. It's 397 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: the easiest route. All that real estate out there and 398 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: put it in anywhere you want, and the receivers looking 399 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: back at you and the DBS looking at the receiver. 400 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: So it's the toughest route to cover in my opinion. 401 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: All Right, dude, Hey, it's great to catch up with it. 402 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: We'll see at the at the combine. We'll see you 403 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: at the gosh, we'll see at the Thanks buddy, thank you. 404 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: We've dubbed this the year the Quarterback, and man, we 405 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: have got a bunch of them and one of the 406 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: best in the country join us right now. Look fall 407 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: from Washington State. How you doing, man, I'm doing well. 408 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Guys, Well, we gotta explain. First 409 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: of all, what's going on with your with your wrist 410 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: haar your hands? So we had an injury kept you 411 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: out of the bowl game unfortunately, and I still used 412 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: to got some hardware going on over there. Yeah, yeah, 413 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: I still got the cast on, but I broke it 414 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: back in September and our second game. Was able to 415 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: play all year with it. Uh, got some scans back 416 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: and just said I had to get the surgery before 417 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: the bowl game and try to go. But I was 418 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: deemed uh you know, not cleared by our doctor and 419 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: then uh, you know, how to miss it. So not 420 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: the way I wanted to end my college career. But 421 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: I had a heck of a time up in Pullman 422 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: and really appreciate all the love and support there. How's 423 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: everything progressing. How do you feel? How do you feel 424 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 1: coming into the week. I feel great. I mean, um, 425 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: it's been really fun to learn and pro style offense 426 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: and you know, do something different from the air raid 427 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: and really challenge myself in that way. I mean, there's 428 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: a lot to learn, but it's I love foot by, 429 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: I love ball and so I'm just eating this stuff 430 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: up right now. You know, I'm down here trying to 431 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: just uh, you know, learn the most I can and 432 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: and you know, really get my feet wet in an 433 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: offense type like this. How how different is what you're 434 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: learning down here from what you were in at the 435 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: air raid. We hear so much about air raiding, Airrea 436 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks making the transition. How different have the concepts being 437 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: for you? I mean, um, I mean I think a 438 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: lot of it's just you're under center and you're you know, 439 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: you've got a few more run concepts. I think from 440 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: a passing standpoint, I mean, nobody does it better than 441 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: the air raid in terms of slinging around. I mean, 442 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: we're a pure progression team, but you know you can 443 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: make uh you know, with the coverages and stuff like that, 444 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: you can go off of where you reach should be 445 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: a pure progression standpoint. It's the same thing in the NFL. 446 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have a one or two or 447 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: three based off of what the coverage are doing. So 448 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: I don't think that's anything different. I think it's just 449 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: taking snaps under center. It's it's learning the verbage. It's 450 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: it's a con a long, long play call out and 451 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: uh and going from there. We had a chance to 452 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: talk over the summer and one of the things I 453 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: was fascinating just listening to you go through the having 454 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: the keys of the car at the line of scrimmage, 455 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: especially in regards to the run games. So for those 456 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: that don't understand, I think they think of Mike Leach 457 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: and they see the place sheet that's about this big 458 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: and got the little marks on it and stuff. Yeah, 459 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: just a little type. They think they they got. You 460 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: guys have four plays and you run them out there. 461 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: But just give the folks are to listen that don't know, uh, 462 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: what it's like for you with the line of scrimmage 463 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: in the control that you have there. Yeah. Well, you know, 464 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: in my time, we don't call very many runs. I 465 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: mean a lot of the run checks are on us. 466 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm proud to say that my junior 467 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: and senior year we rushed for a thousand yards both years. 468 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: And then had a thousand yards passing with the running backs. 469 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: So we really used aalize some of our best players. 470 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: And uh, I think that's really all the areas about. 471 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: It's about getting guys a ball in space, and if 472 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: you do that, it's a beautiful offense. You know, people 473 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: do kind of knock that system for being simple, but 474 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: when I see I do see outstanding production. And maybe 475 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: there's something too the simplicity allowing the quarterback to play 476 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: really really well. You talked about the verbage that they've 477 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: been given you here. Do you feel like some of 478 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: the verbage that you hear is a little unnecessary based 479 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: on the system that you come out of. Uh, At 480 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: times it seems like, uh, you know, all the individual 481 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: tax and stuff. I think, Uh, you know, I'm not 482 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: knocking any system. I think if we met somewhere in 483 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: the middle, then it might be the perfect offense. But 484 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just gonna do what I'm told to 485 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: do and go out and make the best of it. 486 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: But I do think our offense was a little different 487 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: than areas in the past. Like I said, we we 488 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: rushed for those yards. Uh, we weren't really an up 489 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: tempo type offense. Except in two minute drove when we 490 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: needed it, and we did a really good job with that. 491 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: But we were kind of more analyze what the situation 492 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: is the defense and then go from there. I know 493 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: you're not playing against him on these the same side 494 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: of the ball, same position, But how geeked up were 495 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: you when USC came rolling into the town and in 496 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: the game that you had there. That was a fun time. 497 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never seen Pullman like that. It was 498 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: a great atmosphere that night. We really had a good 499 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: game plan and uh, you know, really executed. I think 500 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: our defense played outstanding. Offensive line had really one of 501 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: their better games. Dude, you took you took a shot. 502 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: I think it was Yeah, it was a safety. Yeah, 503 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: came from the parking lot, Bucky. Yeah, middle opened up. 504 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: We had a post back there. I knew I was 505 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: gonna take one on the chin, but uh, yeah, that 506 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: dude could hit. Yeah that was because that was one 507 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: of the best throws any quarterbacks made all year long. 508 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: He took. You took your medicine on that one. Yeah. Sure. 509 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: So when you look at the Sunday game and you 510 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: look at NFL games, who are some of the quarterbacks 511 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: that you look at and you learn from who someone did. 512 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: That's easy. That's easy. He's going his eight Super Bowl 513 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: right now. Tom Brady, I of that guy. I mean, uh, 514 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: the reason I even pat the ball is because I 515 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: watched him growing up and see him pat the ball. 516 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: So I always try to model my game after it. 517 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: And you know, I think you can't have a better 518 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: guy to look up to. It's interesting because we talked 519 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: about this over the summer, some of his mannerisms buck 520 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: in the pocket. It looks like Braet with his mannerisms 521 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: that you get that is anybody else hit you with 522 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: that a little? I think people are just trying to 523 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: be kind. No, No, I'm serious. Just some of your 524 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: subtle kind of pocket movement and just kind of your 525 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: your poise inside the pocket. I see, Uh, some of 526 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: that from Tom Brady coming out as well. Tom had 527 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: actually a very similar built coming coming into the league 528 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: as well. How much of a challenge is it with 529 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: your hand kind of keep up with your training and 530 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: get yourself you know physically it presents challenges, but uh, 531 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: you know we're working around it right now, and uh, 532 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, hope we were put in a good weight 533 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: tomorrow and then the combine will show up at a 534 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: really good way. So we're just working. Just get to 535 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: give me a plan and I'll follow it. What's you're 536 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: giving me? Your your favorite play call and walking into 537 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: favorite play call. It's gonna sound extremely simple, but it's 538 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: called ACE and it's kind of the bread and butter. 539 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: You got an outside vert? Uh, it's two bye two, 540 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: got an outside vert? Uh. I don't know if I 541 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: should be disclosing this on air, do you know? I 542 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: think coach Leach won't mind because he's been running it 543 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: since two dozen one. Yeah. Yeah, then you got then 544 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: you got an out, then you got a cross, then 545 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: you've got a post dig I mean really, our whole 546 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: offense is based off of that. We dress up screens 547 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: with it. Um, it's a pure progression play. It's from 548 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: the left or right. Uh, it's a really good play 549 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: for us. I liked it. I'm fascinating. IM gonna have 550 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: to write that down. Yeah, you got you gotta do it. 551 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: I mean I think for high school, if you could 552 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: implement some of the air rate stuff, I mean you can, 553 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: really you can. Stuff is beautiful. Yeah yeah, yeah, we 554 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: we do a good job and everything you look on 555 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: one and the dude tries to uh, the strong safety 556 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: tries to jump the crosses tag a post. I mean, 557 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: it's beautiful if you if you get the leeway to 558 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: do that stuff. No, that's pretty good. I liked your 559 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: appealing to my quarterback senses. Right now, I want to 560 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: go back and play. We ran. We ran a lot 561 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: of option at episode. Yeah, that was That's like little 562 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: league stuff. That's why I always played tight end. So good. 563 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: Hey man, thank you so much for taking the time. 564 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: We wish you the best of luck. Get healthy, and 565 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: we'll be following you all the way. All right, Well, 566 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. Thanks to Alright, we're excited here. 567 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: We've got Mason Rudolph, quarterback from Oklahoma State joining us. Amazing. 568 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: How you doing, man, great, how you doing? Thanks for 569 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: having me. I'll tell you what, bug man, it's one 570 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: of those things where I try and get out and 571 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: see all the quarterbacks live every year. You're the one 572 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: that I did not get to get out and see live. 573 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: And you went and saw but he just walked through 574 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: the door. I was like, dang, I didn't realize he's 575 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: that big man. What games you come to? Okay, good deal? Nice, 576 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: So tell us. First of all, you walked in here. 577 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: We got a walking boot on, so tell us what's 578 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: going on. I'm in the boot one more week. I 579 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: had a foot spring in the ball game second half, 580 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: finished the game with it, but uh kind of took 581 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: took about three or four days off after the ball 582 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: game see if it would improve it. It did, and 583 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: then I started kind of hitting it hard with with 584 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: throwing and then then doing a dynamic warm up as 585 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: much as I could, and then going in the weight room, 586 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: and so I kind of had some issues with just 587 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: being sore, and so I went into the UFC doctor 588 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: have been been training in Orange County and they shot 589 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: some INMRI eyes in the next ray and and to 590 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: talk to Bob Anderson, the foot specialist, and he kind 591 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: of recommended I get in the boot for three weeks 592 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: and and then not playing the Senior Bowl, which I 593 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: was kind of bummed obviously, but you know, I didn't 594 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: think I'd be a hundred percent. Neither did he, and 595 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: he kind of signed off on. He's the guy, so um, 596 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: but he he feels confident as well as I do 597 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: that I'll be I'll be fine with the combine and 598 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: do everything there and start doing some multer g running 599 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: here when I get back Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Well, we're 600 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: real quick. I wanted one thing because I'm dying to know. 601 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: This is when he walked in the door. The first 602 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: thing that popped in my mind. I remember, just going 603 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: back in my career, you always want to win every game, 604 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: but there's nothing better as a quarterback when other team 605 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: scoring as fast as they want, so you just get 606 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: right back. How much fun was was bedling? Yeah? Um 607 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: you guys, boom boom, boom boom. We didn't win, which 608 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: wasn't fun, but I know that, but how much just 609 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: the game it's as a quarterback and like, get these 610 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: guys off the field. I want to get back out there. Yeah, 611 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean I think, yeah, we were the second quarter. 612 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: It was lost. I forget how many points score, but 613 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: we were back and forth and uh yeah, it was 614 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: one of those games you'll you know, you'll remember for 615 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: a while, but you know, I think, uh, it's two 616 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: good offenses going up against each other. Really, you know, high, 617 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: high powered, high explode a lot of a lot of 618 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: downfield shots and uh, you know, we we didn't make 619 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: the plays in the end to steal it off. But yeah, 620 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: definitely a exhilarating game. I guess you could say, a lot, 621 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: a lot of points, a lot of yards, and and 622 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: and thinking about what you've been able to accomplish in 623 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: that Oklahoma State offense. That offense is remarkable. Like haven't 624 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: watched you guys play, y'all go up and down the field. 625 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: What are you going to be able to take from 626 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: your experience directing the offense that's as high powered to 627 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: help you be a really really good pro. And I think, uh, 628 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, my ability to push the ball on the 629 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: field like you like you said, I mean, I think, 630 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: um might go with my deep post ball ball are 631 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: probably my best. And I think I do it better 632 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: than you know, than anyone in this class. And and 633 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: uh just just really you know, enjoyed playing in the 634 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: system that I did. I think there was a lot 635 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: of you know, r p os in first second down, 636 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: but I think we ran those are just about as 637 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: good as anybody and and and executed them. And so 638 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking forward to taking the next step 639 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: and and and to start learning and doing whatever is 640 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: asked to me, you know, at the pro level, and 641 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: excited to do so. So to that point you talk 642 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: about r p O s and some of the things 643 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: that you do too maybe unique to Oklahoma State. Like 644 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: sometimes you hear scouts and critics say that, oh, that 645 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: doesn't translate to the next level. Why will your play 646 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: the Eagles run them? Why will your play at Oklahoma State? 647 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: Why were they the game the gay that we saw 648 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: at Oklhoma State. Why would they guys show up on 649 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: Sundays say that again? Why? What? What's why? While the 650 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 1: guy that we saw dominant at Oklahoma State? Why were 651 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: they saying guys show up on Sunday? Because I was 652 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: I was in high school. I was tagged as a 653 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: short screen guy. We we were heavier right offense, like 654 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: Mike Leach to the to the bone, and and I 655 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: was kind of textus, well, he didn't take any shots 656 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: on the field, and I did that in college, and 657 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: now it's tagged as all he takes too, and he 658 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: just got good receivers, he throws the ball up. Well, 659 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: you know, I'd say, uh, obviously I think different, But uh, 660 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: I think I think, um, you know, my game of 661 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: prototypical big size. I love to play from the pocket. 662 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: When I'm an athletic enough to make plays extend to play, 663 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, outside the pocket, and I think I did 664 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: a lot better job. But try to work on this 665 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: off season is creating those scenarios where you're you're forced 666 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: out and you gotta throw in the run, and I 667 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: think I did that better and so but uh, yeah, 668 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: the culmination on those things. But I think I'm yeah, 669 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm looking forward to do whatever I can, 670 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: whatever whatever fit, and learning as much as quick as 671 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: I can. All Right, we're both former scouts who want 672 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: you to put your your scouting hat on for a second. 673 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: Going through your schedule this year. The one guy you 674 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: watch on the other side of the ball that jumped 675 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: off the tape, he said, Holy crap, I better be 676 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: careful with this one man. I think, uh the safety 677 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: of Texas Jefferson as well as the no stackle in Texas. Yeah, 678 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: putting forward Big twelve defense linement of the year was 679 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: just uh, you know, he he caused a lot of 680 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: problems for us that you're playing that three down kind 681 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: of like we called it a two whole defense to 682 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: high safeties and like a pre aligned nickel Sam in 683 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: the middle and just you know, asking begging Uster on 684 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: the ball. We just we couldn't. They were they were 685 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: forcing everything outside and then those over Haan backers were 686 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: making tackles. And you know, that was the lowest scoring 687 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: game of the year for us, and they did a 688 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: great job, like you said, probably because of those two players. 689 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, those those two guys take out and 690 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: and thinking about what you want to accomplish going for 691 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: so we have to combine coming up in your pro days, 692 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: what would you like to show scouts because you are 693 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: maybe to pit they paid in this Yeah, what would 694 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: you like to show at the combine because that's the 695 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: next week thing. Yeah, well, I think the part of 696 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: the reason I came down here is because, like I 697 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: could have not you know, I could have just stayed 698 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: back in California, but I wanted to, you know, get 699 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: this thing started, meet with some teams and show them, 700 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: you know, my character, my personality and come across to 701 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: him in a good way. And that's that's why I'm here, 702 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: and that's what I've already started to do. But uh, 703 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: as far as the combine, man, I think I'll be 704 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: planning on throwing, They're plan on doing everything as much 705 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: as I can and and uh, you know, gearing up 706 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: to that with my with my quarterback coach, I think 707 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: Zach Robinson and uh so we we've been working on 708 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: that and as well as you know, just go and 709 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: throw my games and making sure I can explain everything 710 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: well and um and and then then start diving into 711 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: some NFL concepts and just be ready for for the 712 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: questions in the interviews at the combin. It's a lot 713 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: more formal than it is here. It's a lot more 714 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: you know, you got more time on your hands, and 715 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: so it's fifteen minute deals with the comment I'll go quick, 716 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, just and then and then the pro 717 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: to toy just you know, come up with a great script. 718 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: I think it'll be it'll be really fun time having 719 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: throwing Marcel Eateman and James Washington and and uh Chris 720 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: Lacey even and then it'll be it'll be fun, fun 721 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: road in fun process. You had to go trainent to 722 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State guy, right, you didn't have a chance Oklahoma 723 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 1: State quarterbacks stay together. Man, Hey, last question we got. 724 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: We got some of your tammates who were waiting to 725 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: get in here. Uh, last question from me. I've heard 726 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: from a lot of people that talk about your leadership 727 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: and you bring to the table from that. In that regard, 728 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: can you just give me one quick story, a quick 729 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: example of your leadership style and action. Yeah, I think, um, 730 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 1: you know, I'm fired. I'm I'm very passionate about the game. 731 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: You see them on the sidelines. I'll get into it. 732 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I think, you know, an example 733 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: with the receivers, with the guys behind me, Marcel and James, 734 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: and just being in practice and always having that love 735 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: hate relationship of you know, landmarks or route conversions and 736 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: and sight adjustments and and things like that. We may 737 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: get wrong one day and and and I'm you know, 738 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm on there, I'm on there. You know, I'm down there. 739 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm on their head about it. And then they'll we'll 740 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: kind of come back and and at the end of 741 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: the day, we're teammates first, but they'll they'll tell you 742 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 1: I've gotten on them a few times, and and uh 743 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: we always smile it myself, but we get those things 744 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: ironed out in practice so that the game, you know, 745 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: it's a breezing and we're on the same page. Great job, man, 746 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: it's great to visit with you. Get healthy. We look 747 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: forward to watching your pro day al right here with U. T. 748 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: S A defensive and slash outside linebacker addresher extraordinary. Marcus Davenport, 749 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: how you doing, Yeah, I'm doing pretty good. I gotta 750 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: ask you. We've had a chance to visit down and 751 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: watch your train a little bit. But for the folks 752 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: that don't know your story, tell us a little bit 753 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: about your athletic background, not just on the football field, 754 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: but on the basketball court, and how you ended up 755 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: at U T. S A. So uh, I played basketball 756 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: rand track all four years of high school and UM 757 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: ended up going to U T. S A. It was 758 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: my last visit, you know, went there and met the people, 759 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: actually loved it. Decided to stay home. Now, you had 760 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: some interests on the hoop side from a place not 761 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: not too far from where we live out in California, 762 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: in in Vegas, right, Yes, I originally committed to them 763 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: and UM to play football and come out there and 764 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: possibly play some basketball too. Did you miss basketball at all? 765 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: Obviously I spend time with the Carolina pants Is. We 766 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: had a guy at Julius Peppers there was a big 767 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: time hooper that has made the transition now obviously be 768 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: one of the best sackers in the league. What from 769 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: basketball are you able to take to help you be 770 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: a dominant football player. Explosiveness, UM, awareness with my body, uh, leverage, 771 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like overall I can't necessarily specify 772 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: what I took is just atmosphere. What's your thoughts on 773 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: ever getting blocked by a tight end? Okay, so I'm 774 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: never supposed to get blocked by a tight end? Um, Honestly, 775 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: that's been the mindset. You know. I have to dominate, 776 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: especially somebody that's not even that doesn't even way more 777 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: than me. Now you did? Uh? Watching you on tapes 778 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: fun to watch you ragged all some tight ends and 779 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: get after a little bit. Go ahead, buck. Obviously you 780 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: coming from a smaller school coming here in the Senior Bowl, 781 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: people want to know, how are you going to handle 782 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: the jump in competition? When you hear that question, how 783 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: do you respond to that? Um? Competition and competition. I 784 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: don't really think people can tell me that I play 785 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: lower competition. You didn't play against them, and UM, I 786 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: believe that conference you would say is good and um 787 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: who they actually bring through and talent? But you know, 788 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: knowing that I will come here and I will I 789 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: plan to dominate. One of the things I love about 790 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: you is just kind of looking throughout your career and 791 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: watch you even throughout this season, you got better. I 792 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: mean you can even just look at your production two 793 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: and a half sacks to four sacks and six and 794 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: a half sacks, eight and a half sacks. Your production 795 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: across the board just keeps going up and up and up. 796 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: How how much easier is the game getting for you 797 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: as it started to slow down for you? UM? Yes, yes, really, 798 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: I it was more what um, what my teammates allowed 799 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: me to do. You know, they believed in me, and 800 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: I feel like that helped me a lot. When you 801 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: think about the next level, are the guys that you 802 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: patted your game after? Um, I've been asked this question 803 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: so many times. I can't necessarily say that there's one person, 804 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: you know. I like to think of Clay's, Campbell's power, 805 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: Um J J. Watts motor and Vomerless speed. That's a 806 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: that's a hell of a combination this kid can bend to. 807 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: Now you put all that together, you'd be a dominant 808 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: player for a long time. So for those that listen, 809 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: I don't know about Marcus a little, but he's gonna 810 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: be right at six six little over six six will 811 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: you what do you say you're winning high two fifties? Right, 812 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: high two fifties. He's got a big time motor and 813 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: outstanding burst and can bend coming off the edge a 814 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: little bit. Just give us a sneak peek. You don't 815 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: have to tell us what you're gonna do, but just 816 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: give us a sneak peek of what the expectations should be. 817 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: Once we get to this one on one session, you 818 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: get a chance to go up against some of these dudes. 819 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: I want to win every single one. And what kind 820 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: of fashion do you want to get that done? I 821 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: want to mix it up, honestly. I want to be 822 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: able to go speed to power speed for ness all 823 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: that it's good. I mean, it's a nice game play, 824 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: game playing, nice game playing. Half At the end of 825 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: the week, what do you want the scouts to say 826 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: about Marcus Davenport? M hm, really about me? He deserves 827 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: to be here. But mainly I really want them to 828 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: uh stop calling you to say a small school. Now 829 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: you've had a chance, you've been training out in California, 830 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: spent all this time in Texas. I just settle this 831 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: thing once and for all. California, Mexican food or text Max, 832 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: Where are you going here? M text mix. That's a 833 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: wrong answer. It's almost like in and Out Burger and 834 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: water Burger. Come on, O my god, man, I got 835 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: hold on buck. I gotta go back and change my grade. 836 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: Jump back in here and z like what a burger? Come? 837 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: How do you order that thing? Honeyboy? Your chicken sandwich? 838 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,479 Speaker 1: And you know, I know when you got a chicken 839 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: strip sandwich, you're compared it to a hammer. Literally is 840 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: apples in orange is not even the same thing. Okay, 841 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 1: so what do you like? I like p F Chang's 842 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: and out is only good for animal style. I gotta 843 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: hop in here to help a man out from San 844 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: Antonio because I'm I'm from San Antonio. To water Burger, 845 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: you gotta go a bacon but cheese in jalapeno absolutely 846 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: dominates anything. In and Out's coming with you? Go and out? 847 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: You get the girls onions? Right? Did you you know 848 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: you didn't order like the regular animal style? You don't 849 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: do animal style. I think it needs to be in 850 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: order for it to be good, you have to get 851 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: animal style. This is over. This interview is over. Mark. 852 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: It's good job man. Good like this. Thank you as much. 853 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: As I want to love, and I do love Marcus Davenport. 854 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a real love buck. I have 855 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: a hard time getting over the whole hamburger thing. Yeah, 856 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 1: I know, I just don't understand, Like I was hoping 857 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: that he had higher standards for what he likes to consume. 858 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: But maybe in time he will understand that in and 859 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: out burger is a far superior burger. And what a burger? Yeah? Look, 860 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: character counts and so the calories, and he's not picking 861 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: the right calories. What a burger? Are you serious over? 862 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: In and out? I mean, and by the way, we've 863 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: already we've already put in you know. For Look, we 864 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: love seller. He does a great job. He's a fantastic producer, 865 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: and it's wonderful. I don't know if I can be 866 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: worked with the producer that thinks of what a burger 867 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: is better than because it wasn't even about the burger. 868 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: It was about a chicken sandwich. Yeah, like, what's your 869 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: favorite burger? I don't know. It's got some chicken wings 870 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: in there and a burger, not a burger. That doesn't count. Man, Well, 871 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: we got a long time. Look, I think we can 872 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: lead We can lead Selly to the truth. Davenport might 873 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: be a lost cause, but Bucky Josh Allen fascinating interview, 874 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely interesting, interesting guy. I thought Luke Fogg was fascinating 875 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: in terms of what he was able to talk about 876 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback position, how he got it done. It was 877 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: Zoo Mason Rudolph the natural leadership ability that kind of 878 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: came through, and Davenport, who was misguided with the burger. 879 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: Outside of that, he was good. But it's pretty good 880 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: conversation overall. Yeah, tell a little nippy out here after 881 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: practice at the Senior Bowl cold. I think it's gonna 882 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: get a little colder, maybe a little wet there at 883 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: the end of the week. But we're having a great 884 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 1: time here down at the recent Senior Boy. I hope 885 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed listening to this podcast. We have a 886 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: lot more coming. We've been collecting interviews with general managers, 887 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: with head coaches. We'll have some of that coming your 888 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: way later in the week, and a lot of this 889 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: stuff we're getting some great sound we're gonna be able 890 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: to incorporate into some of our episodes in the spring interview. 891 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: We had an interview today with Gus Mals on talking 892 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: all about Carrie on Johnson, his very talented running back. 893 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: So we got tons of good stuff coming your way 894 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: here on Move the Sticks. That's gonna do it for 895 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: us today. They'll be on the lookout for more Moved 896 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: the Sticks content. You can find that NFL dot com 897 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: Slash podcast as well as the Apple Podcast. And again 898 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: thanks to everyone who has left us a review on 899 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: there in a rating. Those help, We do appreciate it. 900 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: Until next time, we'll come right back to you and 901 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: give me some more good stuff here from Mobile, Alabama. 902 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for downloading Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and 903 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. For more, go to NFL dot com Slash Podcasts. 904 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: Two King Moved before a st