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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of My

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Speaker 1: Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry

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Speaker 1: over there. Me so free since, which is not true

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Speaker 1: at all, but it does rhyme, so it's catchy. She's

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Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon. Maybe No, that doesn't count because she's still

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Speaker 1: um Chuck. Yes, we are gathered here today to discuss

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Speaker 1: probably the most important topic we've ever covered, the most

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm not sure if we're up to the task,

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Speaker 1: but we're going to give it a try. And what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about today our gap years. Yeah. Did this

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Speaker 1: a little bit, hopefully not the new current days of

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Speaker 1: that's uh slight and we and we do it anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because as everyone knows, but we haven't said it for

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Speaker 1: a while, we are dedicated to explaining absolutely everything in

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Speaker 1: the universe, and that explained that includes gap years. This

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Speaker 1: is a thing. And I should also point out to

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Speaker 1: the reason I picked this. Uh, it's not a turkey

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Speaker 1: The reason I picked this was because when I was

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Speaker 1: not know you could totally do that if you want

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Speaker 1: to completely ruin your life. Shoot, I didn't. I mean

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Speaker 1: I didn't enter the workforce allows in my thirties. No,

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Speaker 1: it's true, it's true. I had jobs, right, Yeah, so um, No,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a gap year. From what I understand is,

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Speaker 1: like you said, it's between it's taking a year off

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Speaker 1: volunteering is a big one. UM. But the the crux

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Speaker 1: of it is that you are you are becoming a

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Speaker 1: you're a UM, you're much stabler, You've worked on things

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Speaker 1: like grit and resilience and UM, you've you're a much

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Speaker 1: I said, I did not know this was an option

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Speaker 1: So that that song don't go back to Rockdale, like

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Speaker 1: we were way too cynical for that. No, man, I

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Speaker 1: the death knell for for all things great. But I

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Speaker 1: think now travel agents are more likely to do for

429
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: adults what they do for the gap here, which is

430
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: planned like an adventure for you, and a little less

431
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: like Hey, I need to fly to Cleveland next week.

432
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Speaker 1: What kind of flights you got? Yeah, you're kind of

433
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: a simpleton if you're buying something from a travel agent

434
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Speaker 1: for that. How do they make their money? I don't

435
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 1: even remember. I mean I used travel age. Did they

436
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: just they had a vig that you had to pay? Yeah?

437
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: I would guess it's kind of like something, here's what

438
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: your package costs, and they, you know, spent X number

439
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: of dollars putting it all together and added like a

440
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: ten or mark up onto that and that's what you pay.

441
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: I don't remember. That's what I would guess. Those were

442
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: the days, weren't they. I can't imagine anyone else booking

443
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 1: my travel now, Like occasionally through work, we'll have to

444
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: do something and someone will offer to book travel for us,

445
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: and where both of us are always like no, no, no, no, no, no,

446
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: you'll do it wrong. That is the like wakes me

447
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: up in a cold sweat, is that someone has booked

448
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: me like a window seat or something. Right, what about

449
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: my sky mouse? Yeah? That do booked me in a

450
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Speaker 1: window seat. Man, I have a bladder the size of

451
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Speaker 1: like a shelled p I have to sit in the

452
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Speaker 1: aisle in an hour flight. I'll get up like three

453
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Speaker 1: times sometimes if I'm not careful. Yeah it was that

454
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: wasn't you other day? Now? That was someone else someone

455
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: was asking me about. Maybe it was Anol got you

456
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: know the old request to swap seats so h they

457
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: could sit together. Yeah, and no Noll didn't do it

458
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: and was feeling bad about it, and I made him

459
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Speaker 1: feel better about it. You know, that's so funny, Chuck,

460
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: I've got some bottom mine hoff going on, because you

461
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: mean and I had a conversation about that, and I've

462
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: seen on like my Cora newsletter and then another just

463
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: random searches that has been coming up a lot lately,

464
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: like people want to know what to say if they

465
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Speaker 1: don't want to do that. Yeah, I mean no, I

466
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: think his decision was very cut and dry. It was,

467
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, a boyfriend and a girlfriend that required Noel

468
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: to move from the aisle to the center seat. And

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Speaker 1: I was like, don't feel bad about that, man, Like,

470
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: they can survive a two hour flight. If it's mommy

471
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Speaker 1: and little kid, or like elderly couple or something like that,

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Speaker 1: that's that's something that would definitely at least consider, right,

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Speaker 1: But I just want to sit next to my sweetie

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Speaker 1: for the next ninety minutes. I'm like, I'm sorry, we

475
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: can't be a part. Yeah, you can be a part, yeah,

476
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: Or you could take another flight that's an option, all right,

477
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: or you can stay home. I don't care. It could

478
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Speaker 1: be nice about it, but yeah, I don't think. Uh.

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00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: In fact, I's told Noel, I said, they're actually in

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Speaker 1: the wrong for even asking you to do that. A

481
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Speaker 1: lot of people would argue that. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: would argue that. I mean, like I can see saying, well,

483
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Speaker 1: this is an aisle for an aisle. Oh I would

484
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: ask that, but it's like seat aisle for middle now,

485
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: or you can't you know, like the aisle seat is king,

486
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: it's the ace, it's the trump card. You can't just

487
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't just willy nilly ask for an

488
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: aisle seat because there are window people though some people

489
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: love the window. But what I know there are none

490
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Speaker 1: of is there are no middle seat lovers. That is

491
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: absolutely true. Uh so, well, geez man, should we take

492
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: another break or press on? Uh? Well, maybe let's get

493
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: through the nineties, um, because the backpacking, the independent back

494
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: packer thing really came along in the eighties and nineties. Uh,

495
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: and much more so in the States. And that was

496
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: when you it was sort of the salad days of

497
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: flying because plane tickets were got really cheap there for

498
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: a while, and it was it was clearly not sustainable

499
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: because you know, you could fly for two hundred dollars

500
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: a long way on a flight with like nineteen other people.

501
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: And I never had the business sense to look around

502
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: and be like something about this is not going to

503
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: end well, um, And you know what happened was they

504
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: realized they needed to fill up flights and they could

505
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: charge a lot more and people would still fly. But

506
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: when flights were super super cheap or they had stuff

507
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: like air Hitch, which is what I used to go

508
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: to Europe. Um. I don't know if they still have

509
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: air Hitch, but there are a lot of little You

510
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: bought a coupon basically what for like a hundred and

511
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: fifty bucks that said, you know, you go to the

512
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: well basically, you go to the airport on this day

513
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: and we will it you on some flight to Europe.

514
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: So it's it's tailor made for the backpacker. He's like,

515
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: I don't really care where I started, just get me

516
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: over there. That's awesome, man. And so they had partner airlines,

517
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: so you would buy a coupon and then it was

518
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: very exciting. You would go and you would show up

519
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: at the airport not knowing where you were going to

520
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: be that night, and that's pretty cool. It was very cool,

521
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: and it always worked out. Not so great if you

522
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: have a meeting in Munich that day. No, no, no no,

523
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,239
Speaker 1: but because that's really rolling the dice. But it was

524
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: super cheap. Um, like I think it was like three

525
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: d bucks round trip to Europe. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, even

526
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: in like the eighties or early nineties, that was super cheap.

527
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: You can't fly to Nashville for that now from Inland,

528
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: try it. You can't do it. You can't do it.

529
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: So um. Yeah, the nineties the nineties kind of saw

530
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: a bit of an explosion, especially in the UK UM

531
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: because there was this now kind of structure that people

532
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: could just kind of jump into and say I'm taking

533
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: a gap years see you next year, and they could

534
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: just change what they wanted to do, and they could

535
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: also find what they needed to do. They could get

536
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: information a lot more easily thanks to gap year dot Com.

537
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: That that website that you cited earlier, that was found

538
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: and it's widely considered one of the first social media sites.

539
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: And it's exclusively for people taking gap years, and it

540
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: always has been and it's still around and they still

541
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: give great advice on um you know what, what what

542
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: to do during a gap year, how to do it,

543
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: how to cut costs? Um, what programs are good, what aren't.

544
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: It's just a good website. Yeah, So how about we

545
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: talk about all that stuff after another break? Okay and

546
00:29:38,360 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: things job job sto. Alright, Chuck, another break is coming gone.

547
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: It's trying to talk again about gap years. Yeah, so

548
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: first of all, let's talk to parents of kids. UM.

549
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: If you're a parent, and your kid is talking about

550
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: taking a gap year. Don't freak out. Um. We we

551
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: get the inclination maybe to get nervous about what goes

552
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: on during that year. Will my child ever come back?

553
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: Are there any dangers, like real you know, concerns. I'm

554
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: not like dismissing those concerns, but it's it's okay. Your

555
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: your kid most likely is going to come back enriched. Um.

556
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: And they've done studies that found that kids do better

557
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: in that first year of college. A lot of them have.

558
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: I think they zero in on their major more quickly

559
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: after doing a gap year. Yeah. One thing I saw

560
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: on that note, Chuck, was that, um, there was a

561
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal article about gap years, and they profiled

562
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: a woman who had gone to India to help bring

563
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 1: solar power to a village and had lived an attempt

564
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: for a few weeks. It was like, I hate this

565
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: more than anything I've ever hated before, and I'm not

566
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: doing this. And so she figured out during her gap

567
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: year that she didn't want to do that. Whereas if

568
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: she had gone to college, um, straight out of high school,

569
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: she would have applied herself to that, gone through college

570
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: and then gone and done that and found out that

571
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: she hated it. So she said, in that sense, this

572
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: gap year saved her about two hundred grand and four

573
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: years interesting by telling her what she didn't like exactly,

574
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: which is a really good point. I mean, like you

575
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: mostly you learned what you do want to do, or

576
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: it helps you. I think there's some statistic that shows

577
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: something some high percentage of children who go on a

578
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: gap year have their um their path forward reinforced from

579
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: that gap here. But I'm sure there's a significant number

580
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: of people are like, I don't want to help people.

581
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm a missing another concerned parents might have. As you know,

582
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: there's so much focus on the resume for that college application,

583
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: and gap years look great on a resume. Now, um

584
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: colleges get it, and a lot of colleges, if you're accepted,

585
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: can't even defer your uh, your start by a year

586
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: if you want to go on a gap year. So

587
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: they really are trying to work hand in hand with

588
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: high school students to say get out there, volunteer, immerse

589
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: yourself into culture, and like come back and see us

590
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: when you know when you're nineteen and you're not just

591
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: you just don't want to like funnel beer all the time.

592
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: Because you're fresh out of the house, right, and like

593
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: some some colleges get it so much that like, for example,

594
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: Princeton not only has like a deferment program where you

595
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: can say I'm in, I'll be, I'll see in a year,

596
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go take a year off, they say, well, wait,

597
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: we actually have a project or a program that helps

598
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: you go do that stuff for the gap year. And

599
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: it's you know, through the university and FSU. Florida State

600
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: University has a program where if you defer for a

601
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: gap year, you're automatically considered for financial aid to help

602
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: you in your gap here. Cool, yeah, it is pretty cool.

603
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: They also have a clown school, don't they, f S

604
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: you does? Isn't Florida State Don't they have like a

605
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: circus college or I mean, it would makes sense because

606
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: Florida is like traditionally like the state where circuses went

607
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: and took a rest for the Really, yeah, I didn't

608
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: know that, Well that makes sense. I wonder if I'm

609
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: gonna have to look that up. I don't know. I

610
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: know there's something some kind of circus school in Florida,

611
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: but it may not be tied to Florida State. I

612
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: could be though it very welcome to be so. There's

613
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: a book that a woman named Kristen White wrote called

614
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: The Complete Guide to the Gap here where she talks

615
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: about some of the things you can do that aren't

616
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: just like partying around the world, and volunteering is of

617
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: course one of those things, as well as living with

618
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: a family and another culture. That's one of the best

619
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: ways to really learn about a new place is to

620
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 1: live with a host family. Can i um? Can I?

621
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: Also add on gap year dot com there was an

622
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: opinion piece that said, if you really want to live

623
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: like a local, because that's a big, big buzz term

624
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: for a gap year people is learning to live like

625
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: a local. To really immerse yourself, they say, get an

626
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: international internship, like go work and you have to like

627
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: get up at a certain time, you have to get

628
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: on the subway. You have to find like a favorite restaurant,

629
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: you have to go grocery shopping. Like That's how you

630
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: truly live like a local in your gap years, to

631
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: have responsibilities that the locals have, then you can genuinely

632
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: understand it. Plus there's all, you know, tons of other

633
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: benefits to like you get paid, um, you make business

634
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: contacts in other countries, which can be very valuable. It's

635
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: uh they they said that's the best best way to

636
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: do it, And as an American, I'm like, yes, I'll

637
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: bet that is the best gap here there is working. Well.

638
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. There are certainly plenty of

639
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: programs where you can volunteer and do a service here

640
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: and those are great. Um, but you can also, like,

641
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's not selfish if you're an artist and

642
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: you want to go live in in France and paint

643
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: for a year and learn at the side of a

644
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: mentor all those things are great, you know. It's it's

645
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: whatever you think is going to enrich you in your

646
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: future is what you should concentrate on. Yes, some people

647
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: like take a year off to learn an instrument or

648
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: to write a novel. Um. There's a lot of gap

649
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: here programs that are geared towards things like helping the

650
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: environment or helping science. Um to where you might be

651
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: doing surveys underwater surveys of coral reefs to track like

652
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: coral bleaching, or like I said, there's there's some programs

653
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: where you combat poachers by finding snares and um and

654
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: undoing them to stuff like that. So like there's a

655
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of training you can do where

656
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: if you know, like you want to be an environmental scientist,

657
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: you can actually go get field work to prepare you

658
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: for your career down the road, or again find out

659
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: that you actually don't want to be an environmental scientists

660
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: who has to do field work. Um, so there's like

661
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: this benefit of of not just going and spending a

662
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: year in Abitha and doing as much ecstasy as you

663
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: can stay alive before you go to college. That's that's

664
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: how some people do it, I think, but they're like

665
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: the go getters are like, no, this is what I

666
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: think I want to do. I'm gonna go try it

667
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: out firsthand and then go learn how to do it

668
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: in college and tell my professors how they're teaching it

669
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: wrong because I've been there and done it and I

670
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: have life experience that they don't. Yeah, and like we said,

671
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: there's not a ton of studies, but they have. We

672
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about some of the results. Um,

673
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: there are other surveys that said, you know, they say

674
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna come back feeling very independent, more mature. Uh,

675
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna have more motivation to learn and a stronger

676
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: interest in school. Um, I think that one you were

677
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: talking about six said their a gap here confirmed their

678
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: career path. And then one study out of Australia said, uh,

679
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: if you were a gapper, then you outperform your peers

680
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: in that first semester of college and overall have better

681
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: college grades. Yeah. Um, Middlebury College in Vermont did a

682
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: poll and found that their gap your students outperformed non

683
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: gap your students by zero point one to zero point

684
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: four on a four point oh scale, which is significant,

685
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: especially zero point four, but even more significant that that

686
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: effect lasted like all four years of college rather than

687
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: just that first year. Right. And uh, it might have

688
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: been the same study, but that was that one combined

689
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: with the University of North Carolina that said it even

690
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: helps post graduate. The post graduate get a higher rate

691
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: of job satisfaction. Right, so it kind of set you up.

692
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: It even said that in retirement you're happier. It said

693
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: that when you die, your last words will invariably be

694
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: thank god I did a gap here. Um. Here's the thing,

695
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: though there are like it sounds like the perfect thing

696
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: for everyone. I can see situations where if you are

697
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: in a super tight knit senior class, and a lot

698
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: of those kids are going to the same college. You

699
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: might really feel like you've been left behind a bit

700
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: if they all go to you know, State University and

701
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: you're off in Ethiopia. Um. So I get that. Um.

702
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: They They also say in this article from how Stuff

703
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: works dot com about maybe getting a little rusty study wise.

704
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't really buy that. I've seen that elsewhere though.

705
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: Really is that a thing. It's like, Hey, you might

706
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: be learning you know, Swahili, and that's great, but what

707
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 1: you're probably not doing math at the same time too. Yeah,

708
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: I guess you can get little rusty. I just remember

709
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: at that age, just your brain is so plastic. No,

710
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: it's true, you know. Particularly, Yeah, you pick it back

711
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: up pretty quick, I would guess, though, Although there is

712
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: that whole thing, The whole reason that they use for

713
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: um shortening or lengthening the school year, in shortening summer

714
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: is the idea that you lose so many of the

715
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: things you've lost ust over a long summer. So um

716
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: and yeah, imagine a year. You know. There's also this

717
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: whole scariness of like competing in the job market and

718
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: can you really afford to delay entering the job market

719
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: for a year. Yeah. But I mean, like there's a

720
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: real that's a very American fear. Um, Like, no, you're

721
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: setting yourself back. You gotta stay competitive, you gotta stay

722
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: in the game. You can't just take a year off

723
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: and go find yourself. Who taught you that, you hippie? Um,

724
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: that's that's a real, like American thought. And so there

725
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: are like real, I like fears among say parents of

726
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: kids who want to take a gap Here. There's also

727
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: criticisms of the idea of a gap year in general,

728
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: from not not even necessarily people who are involved in it,

729
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: just externally, people who say, this is something wrong with this.

730
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: This stinks of privilege. If you ask me, Yeah, I

731
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: get that, because you know, they're generally not cheap. Um,

732
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: if you can afford to take a year off and

733
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: do anything for a year where you're not getting paid,

734
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: then there's got to be some privilege attached to that. Yeah,

735
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: there's um that's one. Uh. There's there's another, uh charge

736
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: of neo colonialism, where there's this idea of um, you know,

737
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: Western kids finding themselves by dropping themselves temporarily in the

738
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: destitute lives of other people around the world. Leave in

739
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: twelve points exactly. They could walk out that day and

740
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: they'd be fine. But you know they get to take

741
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: a few selfies with some underprivileged children in Africa and

742
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: post them and change their profile picture, and you know,

743
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: what right do they have to go do that? UM.

744
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: That's a big one that gets levied against it, and

745
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: it's a big point of debate debate because it's not

746
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: you can't just subjectively say that that's correct or incorrect.

747
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: And you know, there are some elements of neo colonialism

748
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: to it, and it can be done wrong. But people

749
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: who defend the idea of gap years, especially you know,

750
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: volunteering on gap year UM will say, no, there's there

751
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: are a lot of very ethical gap year tour companies

752
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: that take that stuff into consideration and won't put you

753
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: in that situation where if you're going to help, you're

754
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: actually going to help. And there's this famous UM I

755
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: think it was posted on huff PO, a famous article

756
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: UM called Little White Girls, Boys and volun Tourism, and

757
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: the writer was a gap year student who basically was like, no,

758
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: this is wrong, like this this isn't actually helping like

759
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: the people who you know, we're helping with these community

760
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: construction projects are having to go back and renail these

761
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: two by fours because the people who are doing this

762
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: are just teenagers who don't know what they're doing. We've

763
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: never been trained to do this. So not only are

764
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: we not helping, we're actually slowing things down. And apparently

765
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: people who are the recipients of this aid from gap

766
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: year programs are don't feel like they're in a position

767
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: to be like, thanks, but no thanks thanks for the

768
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: garbage house, right, you know, or thanks for your charity,

769
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: but but go to hell. They don't feel like they're

770
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: in a position to say that. So, um, there is

771
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: this idea of Westerners, um uh pressing themselves on the

772
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: lives temporarily of people who who are in developing countries

773
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: that don't even necessarily want the help but but could

774
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: still use it if it, you know, or don't feel

775
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: like that they're in a position to say no, Yeah,

776
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean I would like to thank for every kid

777
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: that's uh there for the selfies, there's another kid who

778
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: may go on to not even go back to college

779
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: and make that their life's work. You know. Yeah, I

780
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: think it's probably a much higher ratio than that. I

781
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: get the impression that the kids who actually go do

782
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: the volunteering for gap year are actually starting to like

783
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: dip their toe into a career in an NGO where

784
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: they will go on and help people, and that they

785
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: do take it very seriously. It's just the ethics among

786
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: tour operators has changed and improved in the last couple

787
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: of years from what I understand. Yeah, and if you

788
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: think that you want to pursue life working for a

789
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: nonprofit and doing this kind of work, like you should

790
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: get out there and test the waters first before you

791
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: make any big decisions, because it's not for everyone. It

792
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: is very emotionally challenging and physically challenging stuff. And spending

793
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: a year doing it can uh either way. If it's confirming, great,

794
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: If it's confirming that you it is not for you,

795
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: then that's great as well. Right. And the author of

796
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: The Little White Girls Boys and Volunteerism, Uh, she said,

797
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: stop and ask yourself a really important question. Will the

798
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: project that you're working on be better off if you're

799
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: they're helping? Yeah? Will they benefit from your presence? Uh? Huh,

800
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: like what like would they have trouble completing it without

801
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: your help? And if the answers yes, she says, then

802
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: go for it, UM, But if the answers no, then

803
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 1: maybe reconsider or what you're doing, or take the time

804
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: to go learn that skill first so that you are

805
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: actually helping. And it's the author's name is PIPA Biddle,

806
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: which is maybe the most British name anyone's ever given

807
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: their child. So if you are planning to do a

808
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: gap year, UM, take some time to really think about

809
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: how you want to do it, because there are myriad

810
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: ways and directions that you can go. Think about what

811
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: you want to get accomplished, whether it's learning how to

812
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: paint better or volunteering or helping the environment, and then

813
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: apply to college. You don't want to put that off.

814
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: You want to go ahead and apply to college. So hey,

815
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: you know what where you want to go? When you

816
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: get back and be like we're talking about their they

817
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: might have programs in place that can really help you

818
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: out and really get structured about what you want to do. UM.

819
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: And if there's high school kids listening, like this is

820
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: especially important. And if you want to sell your parents

821
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: on this idea, like don't just throw it out at

822
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: the dinner table one night, Hey, what do you think

823
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: about a year off? Like come with a plan in place,

824
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 1: and like that is the stuff that will impress your parents,

825
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: right exactly, because you can plan your own gap here.

826
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: But whether you whether you take a planned tour, a

827
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: pre plan tour, or a planet yourself, there does have

828
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: to be structured. Else again, you end up in a

829
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: bitha for a year um or or some people apparently

830
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: will just sit around and watch Netflix or play video

831
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: games for a year. That's the exact opposite of what

832
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: you want to do. Like, you want to do something.

833
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be like the most highly charged,

834
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: helpful volunteering um type of program you could possibly engage in,

835
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: but it also you actually you want to do something

836
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: that's enriching yourself at least. Yeah, I mean you can.

837
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: You can walk around Europe with a backpack on your

838
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: on your back just meeting people. Sure, I mean that's

839
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: fine too. Just don't don't play video games ever. But well,

840
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I know that they get

841
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: a bad rap unfairly a lot, but it's a it's

842
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: it's code for laziness. Uh. If you are if you

843
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: kind of focused your sights on something, try and find

844
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: out as much as you can about the place, the

845
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: program as in not just a little research on the internet,

846
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: like see if you can talk to someone who's done

847
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: it and really know what you're getting into. Like what

848
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: is a day like UM building houses in a developing nation?

849
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: Like what kind of hours am I going to be

850
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: putting in? Am I up to that task? Because like

851
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: we've been saying here, you're not only not gonna do

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Speaker 1: yourselves any favor, but you're gonna be a burden on

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Speaker 1: that program if you get down there and you're you know,

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Speaker 1: extra weight. Yeah. So one of the other things that

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Speaker 1: UM parents are probably very fearful of when their kids

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Speaker 1: says gap here, UM. They they can cost quite a

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Speaker 1: bit writing a big check. This how stuff Works article

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Speaker 1: says thirty to forty grand I'm sure that it's more

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Speaker 1: than that by now, because I think it's a few

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Speaker 1: years old. UM. But there's ways you can offset that cost.

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Speaker 1: There are gap year UM programs that you can engage

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Speaker 1: in that are way cheaper than that. Some are free

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Speaker 1: and some I think AmeriCorps or City Year or they

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Speaker 1: might be the same thing. One of those guys actually

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Speaker 1: pays you a stipend of fifty dollars at the end

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Speaker 1: of the year. Which is I mean, if you think

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Speaker 1: of it as a the pay for a year's worth

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Speaker 1: of work, that's terrible. This is but this is um

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Speaker 1: like it's mental help offset your tuition and say like, hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: good job, way to go, you did it. Um. But

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Speaker 1: there are but they don't charge you a dime. And

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Speaker 1: some other places also will will give you free room

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Speaker 1: and board, typically with local families. So not only are

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Speaker 1: you getting free room and board as part of the program, UM,

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Speaker 1: you're also immersing yourself in that culture by living with

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Speaker 1: that family. Yeah. And sometimes universities even have programs where

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Speaker 1: you can earn school credits UM that not necessarily that

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Speaker 1: you can just take anywhere it that you can use

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Speaker 1: for your specific university that you have pledged to attend.

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Speaker 1: I saw somewhere though, that you want to be very

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Speaker 1: careful with that because if you do a deferment program

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Speaker 1: where you say, I'm applying to college, great, I got in.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take a year off for a gap year,

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Speaker 1: and they say, Okay, some universities aren't okay with you

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Speaker 1: taking uh credit courses at another accredited university, or you

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Speaker 1: want to check with them first before you do that.

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Speaker 1: I think that's it you got anything else? Got nothing else?

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Speaker 1: Do it? Kids? Gap it up? Yeah, And if you

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Speaker 1: took a gap year, let us know. We want to

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Speaker 1: hear about it, how it affected you or didn't affect

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Speaker 1: you or whatever. Okay, I agreed. Uh, if you want

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Speaker 1: to know more about gap years, actually we can send

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Speaker 1: you to how Stuff Works and you can check out

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Speaker 1: this article on that site. And since I said how

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Speaker 1: stuff works, it's time for listener mail. I'm gonna call

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Speaker 1: this one. What am I getting all this one? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Cockney rhymings slang. All right, We've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: feedback about that, a lot of angry Brits, a lot

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Speaker 1: of Brits with good senses of humor that knew that

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Speaker 1: we were going to botch it. Probably I didn't see

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Speaker 1: any angry Brits. Did we have any rings? I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of kind of jokingly angry Brits. But this

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Speaker 1: is from a Nazi said they're never angry. Nope. Hey,

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Speaker 1: chaps love the episode, And like Josh, I knew immediately

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Speaker 1: after Chuck tried his hand at Cockney that he sounded

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Speaker 1: like someone famous. Michael Caine was a solid guest, but

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Speaker 1: I was thinking Mike Myers as Austin powers. He says

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Speaker 1: for what it's worth. Rhyming slang is wildly prevalent amongst

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Speaker 1: cricket players in Australia. Back when I used to play competitively,

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Speaker 1: it was at once a science and an art form,

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Speaker 1: either developing or deciphering their slang being used by the teammates.

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Speaker 1: By your teammates. It often took many forms, including traditional

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Speaker 1: slang like butcher's hook for look, or he's had an

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Speaker 1: absolute Barry meaning shocker, I e. A poor performance taken

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Speaker 1: from the Australian comedian and actor Barry Crocker. It's a

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Speaker 1: deep cut. The names of some of famous players being

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Speaker 1: used as descriptions also, such as David Boone for tunes

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Speaker 1: put on some David Boone's I guess David Boone is

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Speaker 1: a famous cricketeer. Sure, as you might imagine, when you're

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Speaker 1: all spending all day standing in a field and the

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Speaker 1: Aussie sun, or watching others do that from the sidelines,

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Speaker 1: you look for any activity to keep your mind engaged.

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Speaker 1: Rhyming slang was a hilarious mainstay in that respect. Enough

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Speaker 1: for me, keep up the good work, guys. You're my

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Speaker 1: daily dose of a good old bubble. Bubble baths. We're

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Speaker 1: a bubble bath for for Tom mcglasson in Sydney, Australia.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Tom, that was a great one, much appreciated. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to everybody who wrote in about the Cockney rhyming slanging episode.

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Speaker 1: It did generate a ton of emails, didn't it It did, strangely.

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Speaker 1: If you want to generate a ton of email for us,

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Speaker 1: also send us an email to Stuff podcast at iHeart

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Speaker 1: radio dot com. Stuff you Should Know is a production

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