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Speaker 1: What's going on? We're good? Hey, So I don't want

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Speaker 1: we've done this for an hour and I'm like, well

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Speaker 1: it's too late, but I got it. If it's my

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Speaker 1: all here, Eddie, is he you want to blow the whistle?

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Speaker 1: I got you, Bud, I choke and start now. That

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Speaker 1: was very intense. Thank you. As a coach, Did you

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Speaker 1: have a whistle? I did for practices, not during the

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Speaker 1: games like that. Of course, I'd scare the crap out

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Speaker 1: of dude. The best thing when you're coaching kids is

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Speaker 1: like the drills of like, all right, you run, dribble

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Speaker 1: it wasn't going all right? Run? Uh, you're playing squid

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Speaker 1: games with the kids. Jimmy, you're done. Next run run run.

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Speaker 1: Oh you didn't stop, Bill, You're out. Awesome, dude, nice, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those drills are fun. Do you want to coach next year? Um,

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Speaker 1: we're I'm going to coach next year, but I have

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Speaker 1: about basketball. And you're in. You're replacing Kevin. At the

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Speaker 1: same time, Well, Kevin did not renew. Don't act like

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Speaker 1: you're the victim. Kevin. You did not Did you not renew?

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Speaker 1: Kevin did not renew you. I haven't even been asked.

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Speaker 1: That's wow, that's not true. All news. You can at

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Speaker 1: least franchise tagged him. Give me a year. That sounds familiar.

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Speaker 1: Look look after the game, after the whole tournament. I

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Speaker 1: talked to Kevin. I said, hey, man, you know I

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Speaker 1: gave him a little gift card, thank you for doing this,

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Speaker 1: and of course you're always welcome to do next year.

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Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I don't know. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'll do that. But he didn't say no. It meant no.

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Speaker 1: And it was right after the game, thank you, when

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Speaker 1: emotions are high. Yeah, after the whole season, and I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 1: But I didn't know as a free agent though. At

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Speaker 1: the same time, does let's hey Kevin, let's pick another

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Speaker 1: team and coach him myself. Real nice, guys, real nice.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, ago, I finished this out before

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Speaker 1: we get into it. At the same time, like why

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Speaker 1: maybe enjoys the sport. Oh, he's not a dad. Like

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Speaker 1: this is something we have to do. It you asked

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Speaker 1: but it was your team. You paid into the team, right.

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Speaker 1: But Jerry Jones, well he doesn't want to coach. But okay,

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Speaker 1: so they're here. There's that drama. Mike, what's up, buddy,

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Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you? Why I didn't ask you?

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Speaker 1: but he was in his car. And then we're like, well,

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Speaker 1: if he's driving, he can't. Then he's not. Somebody's driving.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching the show right now called Looking for Michael.

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Speaker 1: It popped up on my Hulu. Michael who a mountain climber?

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Speaker 1: let's get going with the tittle tattle. Never after the

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Speaker 1: UCLA making a run in the tournament. I didn't watch

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Speaker 1: He's okay, okay, okay. But he was like defensively like

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Speaker 1: for the All Conference all. You know, there's a few

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Speaker 1: experts that I know that follow the Pac twelve, they're like,

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Speaker 1: they can't win it now. Whereas they were a one

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Speaker 1: Now they're like, we don't have them. Even Coleman, I think,

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Speaker 1: I can't even pick Ucla now. So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: just buy the experts because I'm not an expert in

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Speaker 1: us LA basketball. Watched two games. It seems to me

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Speaker 1: then you're in trouble. But again they're studs in like,

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Speaker 1: lot of the business that you do that get you

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Speaker 1: on Sports Center. They're they're they're they're those guys, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he's that guy. But he's like the trash man

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Speaker 1: and if he's not there, it sucks and things things

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Speaker 1: why he's doing it. Right, He's what you would call,

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Speaker 1: I guess, the X factor of the team, right, one

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with no, they can't, but only

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Speaker 1: because the experts singing, we don't really know well again,

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Speaker 1: other than highlights, I'm not gonna lie to you and

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Speaker 1: say I'm watching all those West Coast games. Hey colemen,

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Speaker 1: So what are you doing and where are you? So?

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Speaker 1: I am heading from Hamilton, New York work to Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: New York for the eighteen quarters. I plan on going

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Speaker 1: to all four games today, but with this, I'm now

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Speaker 1: skipping the first game and going to three of them. Um,

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Speaker 1: Starbucks work. Okay, he's Huslan. Yeah that sounds good. Can't

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Speaker 1: be mad at somebody from Hustland. He's gonna drive in

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Speaker 1: New York City. Oh, Coleslaw Crawley, what's up? He's gonna

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Speaker 1: drive in New York City. Yeah, Lafonda is gonna see

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Speaker 1: what Manhattan's like. Wait, who's driving you? My wife show here? Okay.

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Speaker 1: We're like, no, my car, what he don't We don't

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Speaker 1: Jim Behim announced that he's leaving Syracuse out for forty

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Speaker 1: seven years. So when you hear that name, what do

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Speaker 1: haven't been the greatest. I think of Carmelo, that's the

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Speaker 1: made a deal you could coach through your sons, and

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Speaker 1: even though the program hadn't been clicking, they still weren't

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Speaker 1: going to fire him because he'd put in forty years

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Speaker 1: before they even got into It's probably not a pleasant

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Speaker 1: they just put out a press Leach, why not something bigger.

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Speaker 1: It's like, again, one of the most legendary coaches in basketball. Right,

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Speaker 1: It seemed really odd. But the time is now. He

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Speaker 1: of your current salary, whatever's higher. So what's going to

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Speaker 1: happen here is you got Lamar at that salary, which

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Speaker 1: is way less than he wants and he wants it

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Speaker 1: all guaranteed. But the only reason they're getting. Get all

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Speaker 1: guaranteed is a dumb, dumb decision. Cleveland has set a

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Speaker 1: terrible example. I made a bad decision for everybody. Terrible

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Speaker 1: terrible owners. That's why their team sucks. They've ruined it

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Speaker 1: for everybody. So every quarterback, well, I don't want fully guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: I would danger Jones about eighty five million guaranteed. Yes,

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Speaker 1: basically forty million a year. Except it's really only a

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Speaker 1: two year deal. So that's wherever I was like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: he got forty million a year, but he got it's

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Speaker 1: it's a two year deal, but he got eighty five

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Speaker 1: up front. Now, if we go over to Baltimore and

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure the franchise tag money for him, if

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Speaker 1: you break it down, but another team gets to come

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Speaker 1: in and go, this is how much we'd give for him.

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Speaker 1: Let's do a TV. You got TV at Walmart? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: best Buy? You just go with Walmart? Guy, dang it,

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Speaker 1: I'm here Walmart, Like, you gotta change me up right. Now?

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Speaker 1: You go into best Buy, you see a TV that

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Speaker 1: you like, Yep, you have to make an offer on

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Speaker 1: that TV. It's a Samsung H four. It just says,

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Speaker 1: it just says, we'll take your best offer on that TV.

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Speaker 1: He say, I'm gonna give you tim Bucks for that

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Speaker 1: TV right there. Well, Walmart's gonna go Wait, I'm confusing

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Speaker 1: on your stores. You confuse me on the stores. Man.

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Speaker 1: This is two man, Walmart and best Buy. That's it.

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Speaker 1: You don't need two stores. You need two TVs Samsung

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Speaker 1: and I don't let out this is terrible. Anyway, here

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Speaker 1: we go the division. I'm gonna go Bills, especially if

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Speaker 1: they can get Derrick Henry. Oh oh, you think they're

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Speaker 1: really gonna trade him? I don't. Yeah, I think the

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Speaker 1: Times would take a two and a four for Derrick

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Speaker 1: Henry right now, there's a new general manager. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Tannehill lasts. There's just you come in and you

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Speaker 1: get rid of the other guy's stuff, either your zero,

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Speaker 1: your one, or you gotta get rid of the other

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Speaker 1: guys stuff immediately or the other woman's stuff. So you

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Speaker 1: know where Derek n will be good for a couple

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Speaker 1: of years. Buffalo. That's a kind of style that they

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Speaker 1: want to play. That's kind of style their quarterback plays.

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Speaker 1: So Buffalo, I would go Jets, Dolphins, But you have

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Speaker 1: three solid teams there, and the Patriots who aren't terrible.

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Speaker 1: They regressed, but they brought Mac Jones Whisperer in so

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Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, if Rogers goes to the Jets,

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Speaker 1: is a really good division. Now. The Baltimore situation, though,

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Speaker 1: is so it's fun to watch because it's dramatic and

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Speaker 1: an a my team. I love drama, want ana my team.

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Speaker 1: And it also says something that these teams aren't lining

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Speaker 1: up to go out. Atlanta goes out, Miami goes We're

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Speaker 1: out because they don't have to pay whatever contract that is,

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Speaker 1: which is going to be a lot, and then have

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Speaker 1: to give up two first rounders as well. Now, the

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Speaker 1: argument would be, you can't find a good quarterback. You

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Speaker 1: just can't. They just don't exist. You can't just go

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Speaker 1: m there's three, I'll take that one. They're none, And

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Speaker 1: so it's you almost want to overpay for one if

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Speaker 1: you can get one and let them grow into that.

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Speaker 1: But Lamar's played ten of his last twenty two games

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Speaker 1: something like that as some of that though he may

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Speaker 1: not want to plays like he was just only kind

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Speaker 1: of hurt and he's like, why would I risk harding

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Speaker 1: myself more in a contract year? But I would go

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Speaker 1: bills Jets, Dolphins, Patriots in that order, with none of

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Speaker 1: those teams sucking. And in the AFC in general, Kansas City, Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: We're soon See'm still gonna go Buffalo for now. They

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Speaker 1: have some big defensive guys a free agency too, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: And if Aaron Aaron Rodgers is a top five quarterbacks still,

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Speaker 1: I believe it in all my heart. He was in

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Speaker 1: for this last season VP. The last two years before

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Speaker 1: that he had a broken finger, almost got a team

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs with nothing. He turned Watson into a star,

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Speaker 1: a rookie star. So the question is the Jets are

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Speaker 1: gonna be crazy good. The funny part is with a

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Speaker 1: now Woody Johnson the owner of the Jets, Johnson and

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Speaker 1: Johnson the air and he's part of Johnson and then

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Speaker 1: he'd be over there getting a check from Johnson and

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Speaker 1: Johnson's kind of story. We need. I love it, all right,

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Speaker 1: wrap it up, Mike. Let's all right, we're gonna bring

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Speaker 1: in the studio one of my buddies. But Quinn, before

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Speaker 1: I introduced you officially. I had them print off some

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Speaker 1: accolades for you. Yeah, yeah, it's real good. But there

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Speaker 1: See show notes for full to tells. Okay, now let

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Speaker 1: me introduce Quinn Grove who Quinn and I are friends.

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Speaker 1: But when I was a kid, Quinn was like my

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Speaker 1: Arkansas football hero I have. I don't like tell him

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Speaker 1: that anymore because now I just like crushed him at

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Speaker 1: golf last night, like crushed him. Crushed. I mean it

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Speaker 1: was fake golf, but it was still golf crush. So uh,

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Speaker 1: letter all four years at Arkansas three year starter or

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Speaker 1: quarterback eighty nine eighty I don't know the years there.

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Speaker 1: He led the team to two two Southwest Conference championships,

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Speaker 1: two Cotton Bowl appearances. Only hot quarterbacks leading in multiple

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Speaker 1: Cotton Bowls, named the Arkansas All Century Team. Um, let's

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Speaker 1: see Arkansas Sports Hall of Fame, Southwest Conference Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: What am I missing here? The podcast you'd like to

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Speaker 1: listen to? Oh? Yeah, we would have got there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we called that. Twenty five whistles, talk about we're done here,

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Speaker 1: twenty five whistles. Light listen. I do listen to The

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Speaker 1: Razor Back Daily every single day everything. Sometimes I don't

545
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Speaker 1: in the middle of baseball season, right when it's like yeah,

546
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Speaker 1: when they're like, all right, we're gonna bring on the

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Speaker 1: h the janitor for the track team, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I know somebody's making them do that, or like hey,

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Speaker 1: why don't you and so other, But but mostly I'm

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Speaker 1: in every day like I love them, So check out

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Speaker 1: the Razorback Daily. My favorite was when they lost they

552
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Speaker 1: were eliminated in the Baseball Champion of the tournament and

553
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: they were like, well, it's tough. Well that's what the

554
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Speaker 1: volleyball team killing it though. They did a whole episode

555
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Speaker 1: on the volleyball team absolutely got at And he's also

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Speaker 1: on the the football broadcast for Razorbacks. When I first

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00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: met you, you were on the sidelines, right, and now

558
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Speaker 1: you're up doing color right, that's what's called your color. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Quinn, this is Coleman. Coleman. I give

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Speaker 1: you Coleman story. He's the guy. He's in his car

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Speaker 1: right now because he's in New York. Can Coleman see

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00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: Quinn right there behind him? Yes? I can him. So, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Coleman has been to how many games and how many days?

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Speaker 1: I have been to eighty one games in seventy days

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Speaker 1: driving actually eighty two and seventy one eighty two college

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Speaker 1: basketball games in seventy days. Yeah, he's been almost every

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Speaker 1: mid major there is. That's his thing. He's trying to

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Speaker 1: find like the Cinderella. And so he's been in here

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Speaker 1: a couple of times, but only when he was driving through.

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Speaker 1: But he's a part of the show and he reports

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Speaker 1: back and he's he was like, you bet, but all

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Speaker 1: your money on Marshall. That's what he said to us.

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Speaker 1: And then they lost. They're they're out. So that coles

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Speaker 1: Coleman's college basketball expert. Uh, this is Kevin and obviously

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Speaker 1: you know Eddie and Mike in the room, sir, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: just hop in you're part you're part of the group here.

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00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: We're for sure gonna talk about stuff. But so Quinn

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Speaker 1: was like, hit me up like two or three weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, se tournament coming to Nashville. You can

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Speaker 1: be there. Mostly we're not here usually we're on the

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Speaker 1: road and it sucks. I'm always mad and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here, and so it's like, let me

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Speaker 1: tickets do you want for the game? I was like

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Speaker 1: two boom gun. So yesterday I was like, I do

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Speaker 1: not want free tickets, but I need two more. How

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Speaker 1: do I buy them? So he hit me up and

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Speaker 1: that's how I was able to get two more tickets.

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Speaker 1: So now Kevin's gonna go, my wife's gonna go. See

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Speaker 1: that's who you guys gotta thank thank you you had.

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Speaker 1: We're in the Arkansas section, so you have to wear Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: Of course, anything for me, you go with it. Yeah

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Speaker 1: you have? Yeah, I got something. Yeah, woop pig, let's go.

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Speaker 1: I bring gift. That didn't sound natural. I liked it.

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Speaker 1: I like to try, but didn't sound natural. I got

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Speaker 1: something for you. I got Yeah, I got something. Whoo

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Speaker 1: pig baby, let's go. No, just just whoo pig baby.

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Speaker 1: Well now you're just saying it lighter, but let wig.

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Speaker 1: I took some friends that have never been to a

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Speaker 1: racing back game. They're once from Ohio, once from Arizona.

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Speaker 1: But there their married couple and they were like, go

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Speaker 1: pigs that is how we do it. They're gonna know,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna know that's that TikTok trend? Are they gonna

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Speaker 1: they're gonna know as like no, no, no, no, just

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Speaker 1: follow along. So all right, we're here. I do want

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Speaker 1: talk about North Carolina basketball for a second. So they

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Speaker 1: might make it now. I think if they beat Virginia

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Speaker 1: they make it for sure. I think they might make it. Now.

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Speaker 1: What a terrible year for them, especially when they're on

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Speaker 1: the cover of SI they go to national championship game

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Speaker 1: last year, This cinderella story cinderella ish because what were

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Speaker 1: they callming a seven seed last year? Or eight seed?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember eighth seed? Okay, so North Carolina big

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Speaker 1: one over Boston College by the way, terrible game. It

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Speaker 1: was a terrible I thought it'd be a lot closer

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Speaker 1: than that. Terrible and good for North Carolina. Sure, But

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Speaker 1: they're playing number thirteen Virginia tonight, and I if they

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Speaker 1: win this game, I think they're in regardless, And I

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Speaker 1: think there's such a ratings getter anyway, and now the

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Speaker 1: story is a ratings getter. If they get in that

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Speaker 1: I think you got especially if there are no like

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Speaker 1: upsets and conference tournaments that eliminate somebody I think they

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Speaker 1: end up getting in calling your thoughts on North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have to beat Virginia and may

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Speaker 1: have to win another if they're gonna get here's the issue.

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Speaker 1: They are one in nine. They're one quad one win

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Speaker 1: is at home over Virginia. Virginia's thirtieth in the net,

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Speaker 1: which is the cutoff for a home quad one win.

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Speaker 1: So if they beat Virginia, that previous win probably falls

629
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: to quad two and they would still just have one

630
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: quad one win. I think they may need to beat

631
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: Virginia and win another, but perhaps just beating Virginia would

632
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: be enough. And I think they beat Virginia, they're end

633
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: and there for sure in and I agree with everything

634
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: he says about quads and squads and point two diash three.

635
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: But guak, Also, I know these executives, these people send

636
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: this board room. You need ratings, and you're gonna get

637
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: it at first, but you need the blue bloods. And

638
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: if you can get a blue blood in, you get

639
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: a freaking blue blood in. It's kind of the unspoken rule,

640
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,239
Speaker 1: and it's probably even spoken a little bit. And if

641
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: it's if they're right on the if they're should we

642
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: or shouldn't, Well, you know they're putting North Carolina in there.

643
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: I want to see North Carolina in there because I

644
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: would love to see them either just get trounced the

645
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: first round or win a few games. I mean, anything

646
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: that happens to them is entertaining to me at this point.

647
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: So I think they might be in now. I think

648
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: if they beat Virginia, they're in. Coleman thinks they might

649
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: be in if they beat Virginia, and if they win

650
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: the d that's just another game. Definitely the whole tournament,

651
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: do they No, No, no, no, they won't have to

652
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: win the whole tournament. They make the finals. I think

653
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: they're definitely in. But I mean, think of two years

654
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: ago twenty twenty one, UCLA played in Michigan State in

655
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: a playing game in Dayton, Ohio. UCLA went all the

656
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: way to the final four. I mean, who knows, maybe

657
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: that could be North Carolina's story this year. You're absolutely right,

658
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: Bobby that the selection committee then CIA would love the

659
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: ratings increase on Tuesday and Wednesday in Dayton if North

660
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: Carolina is playing, can you ever be watching? Of course?

661
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: And that's where I'd put them and a play in

662
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: how amazing would that be? North Carolina? And they're like,

663
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: we gotta plan a freaking play in we're North Carolina.

664
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, you gotta plan a play and

665
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: be happy you're here. That kind of situation, it's like

666
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: when your kids complaining about food. Be happy you got

667
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: food on the table. Don't complain about the Brussels sprouts.

668
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: Some kids can't even eat North Carolina. Some teams are

669
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: at home. You shut up? What's Carolinas? The RPI? Who care?

670
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. A Coleman may know something like that. Coleman,

671
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: do you know about what the ropery is? They were

672
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: forty ninth in the net before yesterday, so I don't

673
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: know what they've moved to. That net is interesting because

674
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: I think Arkansas was like they've been sitting at fifteen,

675
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: Like fourteen the metrics love your hag, Yeah, because we listen.

676
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: We've played a lot of good teams and they're not

677
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: holding the conference tournament against us. We've played other games,

678
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: other big games outside the conference tournament. So eight, whether

679
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: we're eight and ten a conference, but it's like they're

680
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: still like you're you're in regardless of what happens, which

681
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: is crazy because in the olden days three years ago,

682
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: if you aren't five hundred in conference, you weren't even considered.

683
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: Do you think part of that, though, Coleman, is because

684
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: a lot of the mid majors are a lot weaker

685
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: and the only team getting in from not even mid

686
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: but some of the upper but not Power six schools,

687
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: Like I can't see they're being two teams from any

688
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: of those conferences. I think the mid majors have been

689
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: hurt by this change in the last half decade or

690
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: last to the net and quadrant system. How much basketball

691
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: do you you watch? Quinn as a football guy, I

692
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: love it like all. I watch it all. How about

693
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: getting of a sect to me the day before the

694
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: tournament too, so you could watch the tournament even though

695
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: you didn't really want to a sect to me? I

696
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 1: think I'm a pass okay, just making sure I feel

697
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: like that's pretty strong. Yeah. Yeah, And you're here and

698
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: you're representing the university obviously, but also here as a fan.

699
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like you can't, like passionately cheer

700
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: because it might not look good for you if you're

701
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: upset while you're cheering or jeering and not yelling against

702
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: the team. But I get pissed sometimes and I'm like, god, dude, yeah,

703
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: and like, I don't cheer. I love the Razorbacks more

704
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: than anything, but sometimes I'm just so up. I'm just distraught.

705
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: But I don't represent the university. You do, do you

706
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: feel like you have to always smile and even though

707
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: it ain't going well? You know, I think my background

708
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: plays a lot of a big part of that being

709
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I mean I never at the University of Arkansas.

710
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: I never really try to let my emotions show. And

711
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: so my wife is like, show some emotion, but I'm like,

712
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there. She's talking about relationship, buddy. So at

713
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: the games, I flu, I just chill out so I

714
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: don't get too high. I don't get too long. I know,

715
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: you get up set, man, I go both ways, and

716
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: I don't. I have no emotion anywhere in my life

717
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: except Razorback games. Yeah, that's healthy, that's but I don't.

718
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: I know. I agree. My therapist is like, you don't.

719
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: How do you expect yourself to experience highs if you

720
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: don't experience it? Because I'm like, I don't get sad

721
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: because I don't feel myself of a disappointment, too much

722
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: disappointment in my life as my young stages. So I

723
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: don't ever get sad because I'm just I expect it.

724
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: But that keeps me from the hot that being said,

725
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: I get I'm set. I'm like sick inside my guts

726
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: when we lose, and I'm so happy when we win.

727
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: It's really the only thing where that happens when you

728
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: would play. When you were playing, you weren't an emotion

729
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: guy playing quarterback. Could you not be trust me? I had.

730
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: I had emotions that would tap into what my team

731
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: was dealing with. I mean, at the at the court

732
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: back position, you got to be able to look at

733
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: those other ten guys and be able to assess where

734
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: they're at. And there would be times where I'd have

735
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: to get on people. There be times where I pat

736
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: him on the back. So I mean, it's the same

737
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: thing you're doing in your business. I mean, sometimes you

738
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: just gotta be there for him and and but the

739
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: emotion aspect of it is I wanted them to always

740
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: know that when I walked into the huddle, we were

741
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to win this game. We were

742
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to be successful on this play,

743
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: and so that's that's really it. So I walked in

744
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: probably with the same demeanor most of the time, eighty

745
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: percent of the time, but there were times where you

746
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: had to change that to get what you needed. You

747
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: ever get to a fight on the field, I ain't

748
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 1: trying to fight. Well, I did get into a fight

749
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: one time. We were playing against Hawaii where in Hawaii, Okay,

750
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: my freshman year, and there was a big defensive tackle

751
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: guy named Al Noga. Big dude, you don't miss them

752
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: some ones now, they'll get after you now. And so

753
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: he kind of wrapped me up after a play and

754
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: I hit him in the stomach with the ball and

755
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: he slapped me across the face, and I'm a different decision.

756
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna go to this other way. I'm

757
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: gonna let you have this this. I mean, you know,

758
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: I know I got help coming. You know, you know

759
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: how you know if somebody can hold them, hold everybody back,

760
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: and you can act like you're tough. Now, there was

761
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: nothing between me and Al. So it was, yeah, I

762
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: was gonna get it for a few minutes. So I

763
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: decided not to do that. I decided to live and

764
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: play another play. Would you ever talk crap across the

765
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage when you were under center? Absolutely, Like

766
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: what would you say? How would you say it? Well?

767
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: Would they know it? Oh? Absolutely, that's the only way

768
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: to talk trash. You're under center, You're like, you're like

769
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: all right, blue fifty and you would say, well, no,

770
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like in the middle of a cadence. Okay,

771
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: you're not, like, no, it would never do. I mean,

772
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta think about a lot of different

773
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: things other than talking track now after the play, before

774
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: the play, Yeah, trash talking was good. The one thing

775
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: you never want to do, though, Bobby get caught under

776
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: the pile, because they don't ever been caught up under

777
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: the pile. But I'm gonna tell you right now, hands

778
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: are coming under your face, man, trying to scratch your eyeball.

779
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there's all kinds of dirty stuff under the pile.

780
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: I mean you see people get tackled, people on top

781
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,479
Speaker 1: of them. The dude on the bottom, Yeah, he's dealing

782
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: with some stuff right when they ever try to grab

783
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: your oh everything? Yeah, I tried that last night. Yeah yeah,

784
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: I was like, let me let me make a little

785
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: feel of that. Uh So You don't trash talk across

786
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: the line. You never would say anything like if you're

787
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: walking up to the line, you're like, okay, fifty six,

788
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: he's he's not good, We're gonna go take him. Never

789
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: anything like that, Nah, nothing, nothing like that. I never

790
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: really called anybody out like that, but I talked a

791
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: lot of trash for a guy that was back then,

792
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: five to two hundred pounds and you're in the option.

793
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ran, and you always if you're running the option,

794
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: one of the options is you get hit. No, that

795
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: is an option. I mean that that is that's gonna happen.

796
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: Getting hit, It is going to happen. It's when you

797
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: run that wish bone the way we did it back then.

798
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: It's like operating in the telephone booth. You ever get

799
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: hit so hard youdn't know where you were for a

800
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: little bit. Prime example, we were playing we were ten

801
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: and oh playing for a conference championship against Texas and M.

802
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: We're in Fairville, We're on the right hash on the

803
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: twenty seven yard line going into the north end. Zoll

804
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: we call a sprint out pass play third and eight

805
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: and a M had a lot of those linebackers that

806
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: would get after you. The wrecking crew is what they

807
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: call him. And so a guy named Aaron Wallace, who's

808
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 1: one of the best linebackers, was on the right side,

809
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: and so I'm sprinting left. Aaron Wallace gets up up

810
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: the field. I cut up inside. Three linebackers. I mean

811
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: three guys just absolutely crushed me. I fall down like Apollo,

812
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: Creed and Rocky you know, boom, hit the ground, FuMB

813
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: the football. I'm knocked out. And so Dean Webber, who

814
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: was a long time assistant or a trainer, he said,

815
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: it's the first time in his career he thought somebody

816
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: was dead on the field. Mean, I'm laid out, you know,

817
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: like back in the old movies, like drag Net, you

818
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: jump out of the window. They put the white chalk

819
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: around you on the field. They could have done that

820
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: on the twenty seven yard line for me. I mean,

821
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm laid out like that. And so, uh so they

822
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: they waked me up with smelling salt. You know, that's

823
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: what they did back then. And uh you know, concussion

824
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: protocol was completely different back then. Was there one? It

825
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: wasn't one. I didn't exist. Your bell was wrong. Your

826
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: bell was wrong. And so they waked me up, and uh,

827
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: I look at Dean. I'm on the field. I said, Dean,

828
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: what are you doing in my bedroom? He said, we're

829
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: not in your way. Oh yeah. So they get me

830
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: up and we're walking to the sideline and I'm concussed.

831
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: I get over to the sideline. And so what they

832
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: do is they'll ask you a series of questions to

833
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: determine whether or not you're fit to go back into

834
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: the game. So they asked me the first question, Quinn,

835
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: what are you doing this play? I said, I do this, this,

836
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: and this and this. They Quinn, what's your chest on

837
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: this play? I do this, this, and this and this.

838
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm about to go back in this damn

839
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: game and I ain't got no business in this game.

840
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: They asked the last question. They said, Quinn, who's the president?

841
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: I said, Jesse Jackson took me to the hospital. You

842
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: couldn't even like that's that's the stuff. You couldn't remember.

843
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: Ambulance on the field. Wow, take me to the hospital now,

844
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: I see. I was trying to be forward thinking back

845
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: then in nineteen eighty nine, bringing a brother into the presidency,

846
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, that's Jesse existence ye, Jesse might not

847
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: have been the right one, but actually I was just

848
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: messed up. And and so yeah, when you get knocked

849
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: out like that, I mean, it's a it's a bad deal.

850
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: It's crazy that you can remember all the football things

851
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: even though you're sideways in your brain. You got all

852
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: you have, all that you know what play, where to go.

853
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: But it's also like, here, name something that we all

854
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: should know right now, every single day, all of us,

855
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: regardless of and it's like, nope, don't got that. You're

856
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: out of here. I'm out. I'm surprised you can remember

857
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: that though. Do you remember getting hit? Uh, it's bad. No,

858
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember actually getting it. I was knocked out.

859
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: I mean when you when you see the hit, I'll

860
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: show it to you when you see the hit. I mean,

861
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: those those guys hit me, and I was. I was

862
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: out when they hit me, and then and then I

863
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: hit the ground, my head at the ground and then

864
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: an A and M guys but rolled over the top

865
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: of my head. So it was yeah, I was. I

866
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: didn't asked about the part you liked. I was talking

867
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: about the part. Remember feet touched me too? Do you

868
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: looking back, because I think you played out against Troy

869
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: a right when he was at UCLA. That's right, let's

870
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: go after He's a massive, massive cowboy. So you got

871
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: him though, right, No, we lost. We lost seventeen, one

872
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: of the worst games of my life. Why really, because

873
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: we did not produce. So all weeks long, I heard

874
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: all this stuff about Troy ak And I mean I

875
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: knew Troy because he's from Oklahoma. I was from Oklahoma

876
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: and he went to Oklahoma. I was in the stands

877
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: the day he got hurt against Miami when he's a

878
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: quarterback at OU and then had to transfer the UCLA

879
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: Jamal Holloway trots out on the field and takes over

880
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: the job. They win a national champion in the stances

881
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: and younger watching the games recruit, yeah, I got it

882
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: as a recruit. I was a senior, Yeah, senior, And

883
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: so Troy was big. He did this thing, and I

884
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: heard all week long about how Troy was going to

885
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: be the number one pig and all this kind of stuff.

886
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: And I was thinking, you know, and I'm this little

887
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: five teen quarterback, I'm gonna show this can up. That

888
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: was my mindset the entire time. Hurt all week Quinn,

889
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: you gotta have a balanced attack. I don't throw it

890
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: a whole like you gotta have a balanced attack. I

891
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm gonna give you a balance attack.

892
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a balance attack. Get into the game.

893
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: One of the worst games of my life. We have

894
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: forty two yards a total offense the entire game. So

895
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: I get into the press conference after the game and

896
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: they're asked, Quinn, how you feel. I said, well, all

897
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: week long, y'all talked about us needing to have a

898
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: balanced attack. I said, we had forty two yards told offense.

899
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: I gave you twenty one rushing, twenty one pass more

900
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: balancing that. So y'all don't know as much as you

901
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: think you shouldn't know. There's a whole lot more than

902
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: just having a balance attack. And uh yeah, was he

903
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: legit in college? Troy or you could tell he is four? Yeah,

904
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean at UCLA. I mean blonde, good looking cat. Yeah,

905
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: he was on his way. So what did that have

906
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: to do with him playing? Though? What's that? The good

907
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: looking cat? What did I have to do with him? Well,

908
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it just adds to it. I mean

909
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: he's on you know, all right, That's just kind of

910
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: how it works. You knew that if he went to

911
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: be that number one pick for America's team, that he

912
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 1: was gonna be in pretty good ship. And he's turned

913
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: it into a great career. So you were a recruited

914
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: Oklahoma Oh yeah, and was a Switzer recruiting? Yeah, Switzer

915
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: And and what what was that like? Was he big?

916
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: I would tell you what, Barry Switzer can recruit a

917
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 1: shark to live on dry land. I mean he's that good.

918
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he will get you to make

919
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: a decision that you probably should not. Eight. And so

920
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: a funny story got named. Charles Thompson, who was a

921
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: quarterback at Oklahoma, Mike Gundy, who's now the coach at

922
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. We were all at Oklahoma the same weekend

923
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: and Mike Gundhy goes in to meet with Switcher first.

924
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: And he's in the office with Twitcher and they're talking

925
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth, and Mike's in there.

926
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: Five minutes, goes by, ten minutes, goes back. It shouldn't

927
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: be a long conversation. And so he came out about

928
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: thirty minutes later, and Gundhy was like white as a sheet.

929
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: I was like, damn Lake, what's up? Bro? He's like,

930
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: I committed to Oklahoma. I said, don't you know they

931
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: run the wish ball? You are throwing quarterback? He said,

932
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: he wouldn't let me out thrown. And so when I

933
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: came back the following week on my recruiting visit, when

934
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: he called me in there for that little solo visit,

935
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: I said, come on, mom and daddy, I don't come

936
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: on any here because I am not gonna fall for

937
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: the banana and the telpipe and so, like what was

938
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: special about his communication down, I mean, it's just the

939
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: he related. He related to the mama's first and foremost.

940
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna get the mama, and he's gonna eat, He's

941
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: gonna recruit, he's gonna get the mom. And he understands

942
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: the fact that, especially back back then, a lot of

943
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: black kids, I mean, that's the that's the opportunity. But

944
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: he knew how to relate to him. He knew how

945
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: to get them to the next level. And people bought

946
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: into that. So Barry Switzer was in a lot of

947
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: people's eyes, an out and an opportunity to the NFL

948
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: something bigger, and that's what he did. And he that's

949
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: that's why he had so many good teams. So why

950
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: didn't you go play for him? Because I liked the

951
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: situation of Arkansas better, So I said, I was in

952
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: the stands when Troy Aitman got hurt and Holloway trotted

953
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: on the field. I'm not afraid of competition at all.

954
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: Holloway trot leads him to a national championship. If you

955
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: got a freshman that's led somebody to a national championship,

956
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very, very difficult to supplant him. And

957
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: that was something that weighed in my mind. But when

958
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: I went to Arkansas, the coaches, the players, it just

959
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: felt better for me. And my mom says something to

960
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: me back in nineteen eighty six and I and I

961
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: don't even know why she's thinking like this, but she said, Quinn,

962
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: if you go to the University of Arkansas, I can

963
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: just tell by the way these people um love this program.

964
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: On the recruitment we were there three days. She said,

965
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: if you go to University of Arkansas, you'll be able

966
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: to provide for your family in a meaningful way. And

967
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: and when you five ten, one hundred, one hundred and

968
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: ninety pounds, you ain't going to the NFL. You might

969
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: go to the CFL and your check ain't gonna come

970
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: all time. But I feel like that's a personal statement there.

971
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: You just make that up and come on, check ain't

972
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: coming all time. Man ain't coming on time. So I

973
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: was able to uh to meet people and continue to

974
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: build those relationships with the people of Arkansas, and it's

975
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: worked out. I can't I can't tell you how good

976
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: it is to be here, like I'm in Nashville hanging

977
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: out with you, getting ready to watch basketball night there

978
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: is Quinn. Wow, that's awesome. I love it. I ain't

979
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: giving it to him yet at the end, at the end,

980
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: at the end. Okay, so we got SEC tournament tonight.

981
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: We're all going, yeah, thank you, Quinn, thank you. Hold on,

982
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on. I bought the tickets, but Quinn

983
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: got the tickets. No, no, he got me tickets, And

984
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: then I bought tickets for you guys. Yeah. If it

985
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: wasn't for Quinn, we wouldn't have the chance too. But

986
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for the hospitality at the University of Arkansas,

987
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: he wouldn't even be here to begin with. So that's

988
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: what we should think from back in like, Okay, yes, hey, Tom,

989
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers ready to unretire, come back, Philip Rivers, come back?

990
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: Where what do you think he's not gonna play again? Yeah? Hit,

991
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: the forty one year old former Chargers and Colts quarterback

992
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: retired after twenty twenty, was gonna go coach high school?

993
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: Did I'm ready to give the NFL one more shot.

994
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: He says he's in top physical condition, He's back in

995
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: a rigorous workout routine. Has expressed his readiness to join

996
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: a team should they need his services. He has already

997
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: been in contact with the Dolphins and forty nine Ers.

998
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: I don't think though he's trying to go in as

999
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: a starter. I think he's just like I'd like to

1000
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: play again, and if it comes to that, or if

1001
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: there's an injury, I'm happy to jump in and be

1002
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: kind of a stop gap in between you getting somebody else.

1003
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: And I also would imagine Nick, whether you could probably

1004
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: speak on this, like when you do something in your

1005
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: whole life and then you stop, meaning Philip Rivers, that's

1006
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: what he did. Where do you play Ancy State? Yep?

1007
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: So think about high school, NCY State. The Chargers celebrated, celebrated, celebrated.

1008
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: You're the guy, You're the guy. All of a sudden,

1009
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: you're the guy that used to be the guy. But

1010
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: it's still cool, but it's not the same and you're

1011
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: not getting that same competition when you stopped playing football

1012
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: your final time, if it was your last razorback game,

1013
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: or you know, when you stop after the CFL where

1014
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: you just kind of lost for a minute. It's difficult.

1015
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: But the good thing about it is I had a

1016
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: mindset that I had a plan in place that I

1017
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: was really going to try to make sure that I

1018
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: was moving forward. I didn't have any grandeur. I didn't

1019
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: have any thoughts of thinking I'm gonna be Philip Rivers.

1020
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: Rivers played a lot of a lot of years in NFL.

1021
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: But for him to think he's gonna come back that

1022
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: that'd be a bad decision for mister Rivers. I mean

1023
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: for both the team and Rivers and I mean heat, Yeah,

1024
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: that'd be bad. But to answer your question, yeah, I

1025
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: mean you you go through a phase where you try

1026
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: to figure things out. Luckily, for me, I had broadcasting

1027
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: to be able to jump in and still travel with

1028
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: the team, be around players. Um that that really helped

1029
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: me out. But look, it's you got eleven guys trying

1030
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: to kill you and when you forty one forty two,

1031
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: is that it? Yeah? Yeah, feel it better stay on

1032
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: that recliner, man. I mean, that's that's what I would

1033
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: that's what I would recommend. It's not it's look, I

1034
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: know we played Madden before, and those little electronic guys

1035
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: they're getting hit, hit, stick all that. Yeah, out there,

1036
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: it's real. It's like when they get that fifteen yard penalty.

1037
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: You get to fifteen yards, but you still have to

1038
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: deal with the pain. That's a good point. I'm he's like, oh,

1039
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: fifteen yards, col right, start over. It feels good. Start

1040
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: over the next play, I guess. I guess not. Pagasow

1041
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: becomes a twelfth Laker to have his jersey retired. I

1042
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: just think about Eddie and I seeing Pagasow in Pebble

1043
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: Beach hitting golf balls seven foot tall with really long

1044
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: golf clubs and an athlete. But it's just I've never

1045
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: seen something so tall. It's like a big swing. It's

1046
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: just it's like a giraffe playing golf. Like it's just amazing.

1047
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: Is it swing good? Yeah? Yeah, he was good. It

1048
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: was just real. It's just like there goes the club.

1049
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a grandfather, a massive grandfather clock

1050
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: like a swing I just said. And also he was

1051
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: so tall that we knew he was somebody, but he

1052
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: recognized blended in with everybody that was there, except for

1053
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: the tall part. We're like, who is that? Who is that?

1054
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: Left this? Oh? Oh god, dam's Pocasow. It's crazy pas So.

1055
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, and he's I think he's a bit overshadowed,

1056
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: even though he's a great I think he's overshadowed by Kobe,

1057
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: and not in a bad way, Like it's hard to

1058
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: really be known as like that guy whenever that that

1059
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: guy is on the same team. Yeah, especially because he

1060
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: already played with Shack too early in his career, so

1061
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: everyone always thinking this big man is Shack. I don't

1062
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: even think of him a Shack playing again, what's crazy?

1063
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: I just think of him and Kobe. But should think

1064
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: guy's number be retired? Though? When you think about in

1065
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: the grand scheme, Well, that's what I'm saying, Like, it's

1066
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: like I don't think of him as but he Like

1067
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: I was looking at a lot of the numbers, a

1068
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: lot of the stats, even the championships. He's got every

1069
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: analytic should Pippins be retired. Absolutely, yeah, But you know,

1070
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: we think of Pippen is a really great Michael Jordan's sidekick.

1071
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: Even though he's one of the top fifty basketball players

1072
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: of all time. When they put the list out, no

1073
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 1: one's gonna go name the top fifty players, even twenty players,

1074
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: ever twenty five. You're not gonna say Scotty Pipps's name,

1075
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: although he probably was, but he played Michael Jordan, so

1076
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: it's overshadowed so much. I mean, what does it take

1077
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: to get your jersey retired? I mean just contribution? How's

1078
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: the con what's the contribution? Is it wins? Is it titles?

1079
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 1: Is it? It's just amazing mostly titles. Honestly, it's mostly titles.

1080
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: You can also just be a big, big winner on

1081
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: a losing team, like for example, Manning in New Orleans,

1082
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: the Dad Archie. I'm pretty sure as Jersey retired and

1083
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: they sucked. But but he was just the guy and

1084
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: like he was throwing for records for team records for

1085
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: so like there's not a real answer. It's almost like

1086
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: how I got an illuminati. I don't really have a

1087
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: reason that I can tell you guys. For sure, the

1088
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: first time he's admitted this. Now, I didn't admit I

1089
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: was making a job. I was making a joke there.

1090
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,959
Speaker 1: But don't you think, though, like the Basketball Hall of Fame,

1091
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: there are guys that probably shouldn't be Hall of famers

1092
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: in the Basketball Hall of Fame, And they're probably guys

1093
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: who who aren't in that should be but they were

1094
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: on bad teams. Yeah, okay, Like Tim Couch is an

1095
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: example I use in the NFL. Had he not gone

1096
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: to the Browns, I think he'd probably been a pretty

1097
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: good NFL quarterback. I do, Yeah, I do, And I

1098
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: think he went to a bad organization. You don't have

1099
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: a chance. I think if you go to the Browns.

1100
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: Look at Matt Stafford, he would have just been a

1101
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: guy that threw a bunch of yards and never won

1102
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: with Detroit. Yea, so first year he leaves, he was

1103
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: super Bowl and super Bowl. Yeah he's not even prime,

1104
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: he's old Matt Stafford and he wins a freaking super Bowl.

1105
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: So yes, I agree with what you're saying completely. There

1106
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: were guys that shouldn't be in because they were on

1107
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: great teams with great casts, and there are guys that

1108
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: probably should be, but because they weren't in good organizations.

1109
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: They had no help. They aren't because they weren't nurtured

1110
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: and giving resources. And I think about the Basketball Hall

1111
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: of I think that that's the easiest Hall of Fame

1112
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: to getting. And again I don't know if it's with

1113
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: the number of players actually come through the NBA, because

1114
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: it's the roster size is smaller than most, but there

1115
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: are a lot of guys in there. In my opinion

1116
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: that like that guy's a Hall of Famer, really has

1117
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: a hater, You're just a hater. I'm not that thought.

1118
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: That's a hater thought. No, No, I'm thinking like really

1119
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: and truly when I think of Hall of Famers, I

1120
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: mean it's somebody that really changed. I mean like Gasaw

1121
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: is probably gonna get into Hall of Fame, not probably first, sure,

1122
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And so I think the NBA is now

1123
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,959
Speaker 1: the basketball Hall of Good. I think the NBA, the NBA,

1124
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: the NFL, major League Baseball, they also gotta be the

1125
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: Hall of We gotta keep making money. And if you're

1126
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: not putting enough players in each year and you're not

1127
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: having ceremony and people reminded what city it's in, what

1128
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: town it's in, why you gotta get tickets well, then

1129
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: the Hall of Good turns into the Hall of broke

1130
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: and nobody's going it's it's it's still a business. So

1131
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta make make the Hall of Famer just

1132
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: so you keep everything going. So pribame example, like Udonna's

1133
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: hazl for the Miami. He's been there for forty two

1134
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: years old. You guys played together. Yeah, I mean, longevity

1135
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: is probably gonna get him in the Hall of Fame.

1136
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: Longevity's important for sure, because you're also able to build numbers.

1137
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't sound to my mind, you say, has them.

1138
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 1: I think of playing in Florida. I think of him

1139
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,959
Speaker 1: being on some good I don't think Hall of Famer.

1140
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: But you can also convince me was numbers. But I

1141
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: didn't see everything. But you're right, let's put the hull

1142
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: a really good. How about that with the occasional grade.

1143
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: It sounds weird, but okay, a couple of things. Let

1144
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: me do Let me do this. I want to get

1145
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: to Coleman's interview in a second, and then we'll get

1146
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: final thoughts here. March means nonstyle college hoops action. It

1147
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: all starts with conference tournaments. Who will learn their bid

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00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,600
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1169
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: full to tells, hey, come, we're gonna go over to

1170
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: your interview with the coach of Stanford, Bucky McMillan. Yes,

1171
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: how why did you feel about Bucky? Oh, my gosh,

1172
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: Bucky McMillan. I feel like he is a coach that

1173
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: in ten years, I'm going to be like pinching myself.

1174
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: I gotta interview Bucky McMillan a decade ago. Now. He's

1175
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: from Birmingham. He played college basketball at Birmingham Southern. So

1176
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: perhaps he's a guy that will stay around at Stamford

1177
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: for a while. But I feel like the turnaround that

1178
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: he's had at Stanford, power six programs are gonna want

1179
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: him to be their head coach and he's a guy

1180
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: that wins the right way that I think is going

1181
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: to be a future superstar in college basketball. Here he is.

1182
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: Here's Coleman with Sandford head coach Bucky McMillan. Coach, take

1183
00:57:55,240 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: me through what pushed you into getting into coaching after

1184
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: your playing career at Birmingham Southern. I actually coach while

1185
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: I was playing coach au basketball, and so I always

1186
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: tell people, you know, I know my college coach now,

1187
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: but really my heart was maybe an AU coach before

1188
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't even a high school coach. And you know,

1189
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: those are the days of fifteen passionate rands and ten

1190
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: hour bus rides and you know, being a responseful for

1191
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: fifteen seventeen year old kids at twenty one years old,

1192
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: and I loved every second of it. Some of the

1193
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: most fun I've ever had was coach was first team

1194
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: I coached an AU, so I did that when I

1195
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: got done playing. I was like, I'd already knew what

1196
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to do, was jump right into coach. We'll

1197
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: push you immediately into that to start coaching AU basketball

1198
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: while you are in college. I just always loved the

1199
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: game of basketball. I've put so much time into the game,

1200
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: and you know, I just I just love being around it.

1201
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: Like you know, everyone try to find their flow states

1202
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: somewhere and could get that a journal and going and

1203
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: basketball does it for me? When you become a head

1204
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: high school basketball coach, we're already thinking in your head

1205
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: of one day coaching in college or were you just

1206
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: focused on and there now? I never really looked at

1207
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: it to the next step of that, I just always

1208
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, when I was at my job, I just

1209
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because I was looking at some

1210
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: of the high school stuff now, and sometimes when you're

1211
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: in it, it seems like it is your whole world.

1212
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: When you step out of it and you're able to

1213
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: look at it, it's like, Okay, maybe it wasn't the

1214
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: whole world, you know, And so whatever job you're in,

1215
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: I feel like you feel like that is your whole world,

1216
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: and you know, this opportunity obviously came along there. Right now,

1217
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: this is my whole world. Yes, m that's the same success.

1218
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: How are you able to keep it at the at

1219
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: the high school level for that long that many state

1220
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: championships and competing at that level. We had awesome kids, right,

1221
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: we really did. We had we had really good kids

1222
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: and good players, but just just really were made of

1223
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: the right stuff that it quits a long term winning.

1224
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: It's not a coincidence. When you see some of these programs,

1225
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: even in college, that have those twenty winning seasons every year,

1226
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: you're going to find out that they're usually high character people,

1227
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: that they're unselfish people, they work more all those intangrales

1228
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: because they're different between a lot of college basketball teams'

1229
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: is like that much, right, you know, I mean it's

1230
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: really like that much. And so what separates, really what

1231
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: separates is how does a team, how to players, individuals

1232
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: handle when things don't go their way. That's really what separates.

1233
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: How do you handle it when it doesn't go your way?

1234
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: And or if you have the right people, they know

1235
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: how to handle that. They're not going to quit on you.

1236
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna keep playing, They're going to persevere and store

1237
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: of our season this year, right, we had a good start,

1238
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: we had some injuries, went through a losing street, but

1239
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: we had the right people that could turn it around

1240
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: and persevere. You had an unconventional route for most Division

1241
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: one coaches. What was it late getting your names thrown

1242
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: in the running for this head basketball job coming from

1243
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: the high school ranks, rather than working your way up

1244
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: as an assistant through college or something like that. It's

1245
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: a good question, people, I've asked an asset. You know,

1246
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: I've always number one believed in myself. So you know,

1247
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: I always always knew that an opportunity in basketball, regardless

1248
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: of the level, I knew I could be successful. Um,

1249
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: but you know, it's an honor because this place is

1250
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: you know, five minutes from my house right right. It's

1251
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: got an incredible administration, it's got an athletic director that's phenomenal.

1252
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: We've got a presence that is great. So if you

1253
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: could have drawn up a place to go from high

1254
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: school to college, and I'm actually I live in Mountain

1255
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: Book that's where our coach high school basketball in sandfordge

1256
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: actually closer to my house and Umber High School, So

1257
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: you know that's like a dream situation, absolutely, and then

1258
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 1: to be here with the people here, and the people

1259
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: here want to win Stanford. You know, if you look

1260
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: at it, Sanford we want into football this year, the

1261
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: conversationship wanted in women's soccer, one into volleyball, right, menially

1262
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: were co champs right now at the league and men

1263
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: basketball right, So like it's a school that wins, and

1264
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: so that's always good. Absolutely. Coach, you talked about a

1265
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: little bit of adversity, right, facing adversity, and how do

1266
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: you respond to that. Your kids have already responded very

1267
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: well to that when you saw it in late November

1268
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: early December, face some injuries, lost seven straight basketball games.

1269
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: You get despite that, you're twenty one and nine. How

1270
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: do you get the guys to rally heading into confidence

1271
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: tournament play after seven straight losses. Yeah, I think the

1272
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: focus has always got a video on getting better. If

1273
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: you focus on winning or losing and that's the end all,

1274
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: then you know you're going to become complacent when you win, right,

1275
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: and then sometimes when you lose, you don't have the

1276
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: right attitude that we got to get in the gym

1277
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: and continue to work because you're down on your focus

1278
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: on your results. You can't focus on your results. Even

1279
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: today when we play Firming, it's gonna be about how

1280
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 1: we play right. Like you know, if we play well,

1281
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: things take care of themselves. You can play well and lose,

1282
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: but you know you got to strive to play your

1283
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: best at all times and do you get better? We

1284
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: want to be better next week in the confiseurnment than

1285
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: we are to day. Wouldn't be better day than we're

1286
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: a last game of Chattanooga. I think if that approach

1287
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: is permeated throughout your program, then the pressure of winning

1288
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: and losing isn't It's great And so when you go

1289
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: through adversity that people would consider adversity, which would be

1290
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: losing basketball games, you're you're still focused on doing the

1291
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: right things to right the show. Let me ask you

1292
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: about a little bit more adversity than that just one

1293
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: bad stretch through the season. What about in your first

1294
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: year six and thirteen, so many issues with COVID in

1295
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: your first year after having all the success that you've

1296
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: had in high school. What were the lows of that

1297
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: like and how do you propel the team forward to

1298
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: that next year? Already get a twenty win season, I

1299
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: should think we win now and we won last year

1300
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: because of our first year. I really believe that sometimes

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01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: when a program gets going, it's not the year it

1302
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: got going. There's something in the past that you may

1303
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: not known at the time was a reasonential program one,

1304
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, whether it can be for any may be

1305
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: dismissing certain players that can hurt you short term, whether

1306
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: it's you know, you know, doing certain things that are

1307
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a negative short term for you but can

1308
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: be a positive long term. Are you willing to do it?

1309
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: But are you willing to put the program first? Are

1310
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: you going to put the team first? Right? Are you

1311
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: going to put the individual first? It's always got to

1312
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: be you gotta make the best decision for the program.

1313
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: First at all times. And that way, the team that

1314
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: is currently playing can flourish and individuals can flourish if

1315
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: you have that mindset. But when you kind of get

1316
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 1: that order flipped. But the best decision right now for

1317
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: this team is to do this irrespective of what the

1318
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: program really needs. You know, we're going to play players

1319
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: who haven't acted, right, I've done that just to win

1320
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: a game. What happens is you can't have a successful program.

1321
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: You just can't have that. And so I think if

1322
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: you if you make every decision that way, and essentially

1323
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: what we're talking about is making a long term decision,

1324
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: then you can have long term winning. If you're going

1325
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,439
Speaker 1: to have make short term decisions, you make a short

1326
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: term win, but you'll never win long term, right. And

1327
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: so for us, we wanted to build something that sustainable

1328
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: and I think you see that when you have that,

1329
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: your teams are always going to improve. And last year

1330
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: we did the same thing, like we won like caniber

1331
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: last twelve, right, we were one fifteen over the last seventeen.

1332
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: This year hopefully sixteen over last eighteen after the days.

1333
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:20,479
Speaker 1: But you know that's what a program is, not a team,

1334
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: it's about a program. You've utilized the transfer portal very successfully.

1335
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: Two of your five leading scorers Logan aj, we're part

1336
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: of that six win team. The other three have been

1337
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: guys even able to pull in from transfer portal, two

1338
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: of them from the Power six ranks. When you bring

1339
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 1: in a guy like Kles Glover from Florida who average

1340
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: nineteen points a game last year, numbers are down a

1341
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: little bit this year, but clearly critical to your team's success,

1342
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: even in his injuries. How quickly did you know, Wow,

1343
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: we've got a special talent here when he arrived on campus.

1344
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: For you, I knew Kles Blobo was a special talent

1345
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: well before he robbed on camp because we played against

1346
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: from a high school and at twenty eight points on him. Yeah,

1347
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: when I was coaching high school. You're playing at Beard

1348
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: in high school in Tennessee and they won the state

1349
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: championship and we went to state championship and we met

1350
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: and we played a game in Mississippi, and I remember

1351
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: the day before the game, I'm looking at his tape

1352
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: and it because like it's a non league game and

1353
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: all that. So I'm like, so you don't spend a

1354
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: ton of time on it, but you look at the

1355
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: day before, like it's calling who is I started the

1356
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: tech somewhere, I'm like, who in the world is this guy?

1357
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: That's unbelievable, And so we go out there and had

1358
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: twenty eight points on us. I just remember it. And

1359
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: so it's funny how you remember things and how like

1360
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: things intertwined. Like I don't remember a lot of players

1361
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: off other teams, they just not me music for get that.

1362
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: I don't remember the details of them after the game's playing, right.

1363
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: That always stuck with me. It's always stuck with me,

1364
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes to make the things happen for a reason.

1365
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: Stuck with me. And then we ended up united, and um,

1366
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, he's had a great, great career here so far.

1367
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: He had a knee injury days had to overcome and

1368
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: you know he's but he's as dynamic as anybody in

1369
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: the league when he's held him. Yes, sirs, last question

1370
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 1: for you here, coach, what would it mean to you

1371
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: being a guy coaching here and Birmingham to lead the

1372
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: Sandford Bulldogs to an NCAA tournament. I mean a lot,

1373
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, I mean more if we get then said tournament,

1374
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: we win some games, So that's kind of really what

1375
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: we want to do. You know, we want to play

1376
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: our best basketball. If we play our best basketball, I

1377
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: think anybody in our league that gets to the tournament

1378
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: has a real chance to win, and so the so

1379
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: kind doesn't play just just to be there. And if

1380
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: you look at the last couple of years, those those

1381
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: games have been single digit gang. I mean right down

1382
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: to the wire. We've got teams now legal the league eight, right,

1383
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, and people get Steff Current playing in this

1384
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: league right, so you know it being a great deal.

1385
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: But again, we just got to focus when we can control,

1386
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: which is playing our best and hopefully we play player

1387
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: best today. You won't see this that for people that

1388
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm really glad you're here because people don't

1389
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: know what we have going on here. When you don't

1390
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: feel this in this building right here, right, you're gonna

1391
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: feel mid major places and sometimes that there's mid major

1392
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: places out there. Their facilities are so big that people there,

1393
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: but you don't feel it like we're not gonna about

1394
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: to fill this. And that's what I want people to know.

1395
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: That in the middle of Alabama, which people perceived as

1396
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: a football place, right here, we have Auburn, who's the

1397
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: top basketball team. If UAB is playing great, you have Alabama,

1398
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: who's the top two three team in the country, and

1399
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: then now you're going to see this with us, who's

1400
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, right in first place of their league, and

1401
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna feel that this is a basketball state just

1402
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: as well as a football state here in Alabama. Yes, sir,

1403
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: I got goosebumps here in that coach. I can't wait

1404
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: for tonight. Thank you so much for your time. Wishing

1405
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: you and Samford best of luck the rest of the way.

1406
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 1: Oh man, I appreciate you being here. Thank you all right,

1407
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: call appreciate that. Hey, speaking of coaches, you guys, see,

1408
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 1: we're old mess. Was talking to Beard like he's yeah,

1409
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: out of Texas. Now he's talking to old Miss. Here's

1410
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: the thing about old Miss. They don't care. They just

1411
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: want to win. They're like, yeah, well, we don't care.

1412
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: We have no integrity and there's no charges are dropped

1413
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: so and there's nothing on his record right as far

1414
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: as the charges were dropped, Yeah, yes, dropped. And you

1415
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: felt like Texas felt the pressure that even though they

1416
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: were dropped, since it happened under their watch, they had

1417
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 1: to do something. If I were all miss, I would go.

1418
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: I have no shame either. Bring back Petrino after Pittman leaves. Oh,

1419
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: once Pittman goes and decides I'm done, after we win

1420
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: some games, and let's go bring him back. Baby. I

1421
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: was like, why are we firing him? Whiggy left whatever.

1422
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: He ain't stab anybody. But anyway, if Beer goes to

1423
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: all Miss, that's bad for the SEC. He's a really

1424
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: good coach. He completely turned Texas Tech around, went over

1425
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: Texas they were all They're still awesome. Yeah good, it's

1426
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: his team. Please don't go to ole Miss Hire Bucky McMillan.

1427
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: It's an end of Sanford's That's why I say about that. Um,

1428
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: let's do final thoughts, and my final thought is gonna

1429
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: be what I've mentioned at the beginning of this. Thank

1430
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: you for reminding me, um, and I will go last Eddie, Oh, Tiger, Tiger, Tiger.

1431
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: Maybe you can shed a little bit of light on this.

1432
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: But his girlfriend breaks up with Tiger and now she's

1433
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 1: going to the courts trying to get his NDA nullified

1434
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 1: because there's some bad stuff went on in that relationship.

1435
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,600
Speaker 1: So she needs to judge to say the NDA no

1436
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: longer holds true because of what you're claiming, which I

1437
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: think was like sexual assault. Correct. I think that you

1438
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: may look up the exact terminology, but there's something like that.

1439
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: It's sexual harassment, is the exact terminology. Don't know exactly

1440
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: what do you think? It's harassment? That's what it's said.

1441
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: You looked at up because I definitely don't want to

1442
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: be wrong about this, but go ahead. A question. I

1443
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: just don't know. Is that even possible to get an

1444
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: NBA nullified? Yes, rare, but possible. So when she dated,

1445
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: just to understand what do you see, Kevin? No, nothing yet.

1446
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: I was wondering what an NDA is. Oh, that's a

1447
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: great thing that I'm married. I don't know. It's not marriage.

1448
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: It's a nondisclosure agreement. Okay, Like when and just being

1449
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: completely transparent here, if people come and work at my house,

1450
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: like they're doing what work inside the house, they signed

1451
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: India's so they can't take a picture anything, they can't

1452
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: talk about stuff, just because I've had so many security issues.

1453
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: Like well, indeed, like after we leave here, I'm andy

1454
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: a Quinn, I just want you to sign this paper.

1455
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: It'd be funny, all right, go ahead, Eddie, Yeah, just

1456
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: question because I don't really understand. So so when they

1457
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: started dating tigers, Like, I've been through a lot of

1458
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: crap in my life. A lot of people like to

1459
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: talk about about me. So before we do this, sign

1460
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: here and you can't talk about our relationship ever. Correct.

1461
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: And now she's trying to get rid of that. She's

1462
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 1: what do you have both of them? Assault and harassment?

1463
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 1: So what the judge would have to say that he

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01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: thinks probably there's enough evidence in this sexual assault or

1465
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: harassment for it to be lifted. He's not gonna lift

1466
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 1: it just because she wants to say some stuff, but

1467
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: probably it's a let's talk about it privately. What's a deal.

1468
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: He has to make a decision. And if he feels

1469
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: or she feels like a judge man, woman, I don't

1470
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: know if they feel like that this agreement being lifted

1471
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: is for the victim. That happened sometimes and it should happen. Yeah,

1472
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: you know there were times with other folks, famous people,

1473
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: they're like, we need India lifted because we have charges

1474
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: we need to press. And the judges will do that

1475
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: at times. So if true bad news, Yeah, we'll see

1476
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: how this plays out. I'm not jumping on that. It's

1477
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: true and like jumping on that it ain't true part.

1478
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: But we should wait and see how it plays out,

1479
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: because it's easy as members of the media, if that's

1480
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: what we are, to just pick whatever narrative sounds most

1481
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: entertaining and run with it. And so we try not

1482
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: to do that unless it's got feed in it ain't.

1483
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not gonna run with a narrative. You know,

1484
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: I love you know, I love people to love fee.

1485
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: I personally don't like feed at all. They don't get

1486
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 1: why that's all. Yeah, a lot of people according to

1487
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: this podcast. So what what I hope happens is the

1488
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: judge is able to speak with her, hear her story,

1489
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: and if he feels like that that's true, that he's

1490
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: able to lift that all right. So it is a

1491
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: possibly sad story or bizarre story, or I don't know,

1492
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: she wants a lot of money, So there's always that

1493
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: element as well that's in it. You hope it's not true, honestly,

1494
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: I hope nobody got sexually assaulted and nobody got sexually harassed,

1495
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: but you don't know that that's not true. So that's

1496
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: probably what's going to happen in my short legal career. Hey,

1497
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: thanks for clarifying that. That's not really clarifying. It's me

1498
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: give him. There's interpretation of a version based on any

1499
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: India's I've had to give people. You read the story

1500
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know what a lot of

1501
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: these words mean. Well, I'm glad you asked about what

1502
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: India was. Yeah, it's common. Yes, you are lost, Kevin.

1503
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: It's really clarification Mine is on now. Jaguars wide receiver

1504
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley just got reinstated this week, and he came

1505
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: out with a column on the Player's Tribune. I don't

1506
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: know if you guys did at all. I thought it

1507
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: was awesome. If you have not admitting, like really come

1508
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: in like, yeah, like my bad I did wrong? Yeah,

1509
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 1: highly recommend you read it. All about his upbringing and

1510
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: then I didn't even know his house got broken into

1511
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 1: when he was in the NFL, and that's why he

1512
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: kind of got down on protecting his wife and his kids. Like,

1513
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: how can you not love that? So if you haven't

1514
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: read that, I highly recommend it. It's just you don't

1515
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: know what you don't know, so stop acting like you

1516
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: know what you don't really know. In general, that's good

1517
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: stuff like in general, we all do it. I do

1518
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: it too, we all Oh, I know. It's another example

1519
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: if you have no idea what's happened to with folks

1520
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: except for what they're showing you or what other people

1521
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: are showing you that sometimes I don't even want shown.

1522
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: You have no idea. You have no idea what's happened

1523
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: in Eddie's life except what he's given you. You have

1524
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: no idea everything you know, but yes, you don't know

1525
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: what you don't know. When I read that too, and

1526
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 1: I was like, one, he did not try to run

1527
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 1: away from any fault, right because he gambled. Right, That's

1528
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: what it was. Did you get bust a gamp? That's

1529
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,560
Speaker 1: why he was suspended on an app too. And his

1530
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 1: name was like Calvin Early sixty eight, and it's like, well,

1531
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 1: if we fat that's your name. It really wasn't that,

1532
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: but it was. Um. So yeah, you just don't know

1533
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 1: what you don't know, and stop acting like you do

1534
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 1: because it's hurt fault to people when you do that. UM.

1535
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: And I tried to be better at that. I'm not

1536
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: perfect at it. You know. What I really go back

1537
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 1: to is the Duke Lacrosse rape story man so many times,

1538
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: and that's been so long. They were if this are

1539
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: raided because of what was supposedly them raping a girl

1540
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: and turns out it wasn't true, and they were their

1541
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: lives were turned up. And I think about that a

1542
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: lot whenever we talk about stories like this, where it's like, sure,

1543
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 1: O opinions on what I think of? That my instinct,

1544
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: But my instinct stupid when it comes to stuff I

1545
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: don't know. So it mente Tea was crazy for me too.

1546
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: I saw the Netflix show and I was like, I

1547
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: hated that. I was like making all those jokes about

1548
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: that too. Michael Irvan's going through a lot right now too.

1549
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,560
Speaker 1: And they've seen the videos. Lawyers saw the video and

1550
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: it's like, show the video we got, we did nothing wrong. Now.

1551
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the video, and that could also just

1552
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: being his lawyer posturing. I don't know either way, but

1553
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: the lawyers like, I saw the video and nothing to

1554
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: see here, let's go so, yeah, you don't know what

1555
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 1: you don't know, Stop acting like you do, Coleman. My

1556
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: final thought is if there is an oaru with Saint

1557
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: Peter's a Florida Gulf coast in this NCA tournament. It

1558
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,759
Speaker 1: is the Colgate Raiders. I watched them punch their ticket

1559
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: to the NCAA Tournament last night. They are a veteran team.

1560
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: They moved the basketball ridiculously well. There has been no

1561
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: team that I have had more fun watching in this

1562
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: entire journey than the Colgate Raiders because of their unselfishness,

1563
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: the way they move it, and the way they shoot

1564
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: the basketball. They are a dangerous fifteen forty fourteen seed

1565
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: for any two or three. So say it again there,

1566
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: who who is it? The Colgate Raiders? Making sure we

1567
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 1: get this on file here because the last time put

1568
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: all that money on Marshall me too, man, No, I'm

1569
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: just say I didn't. But Coleman did give you four

1570
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: bets and one day on this show, and all four

1571
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: of those suckers hit. I made a ton of money. Burman, Baby,

1572
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: let's go. He was like Palot. He was like him too.

1573
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 1: Quinn he hit. He said they're gonna cover Mine is

1574
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: four and a half. He said they're gonna win by seven,

1575
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 1: eight or nine. The margin. He nailed the mark. He

1576
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: nailed every part of the game, and he went four

1577
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: four in the him. The next I said, give me another.

1578
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: He goes. I just want to retire one hundred percent.

1579
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: I said. I respect that Quinn. He out on top.

1580
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: He even hit that the final score combined score would

1581
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 1: end in an odd number. We'll half yeah better wrong,

1582
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 1: that's me messing up. But he still hit it. That's crazy. Okay,

1583
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: thank you, Coleman. Final thought for me, I've got into

1584
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: this um survivor like the NFL league that I did,

1585
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: where you pick a team every week and you move along. Yes,

1586
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: so I got into this again. And each entry was

1587
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: one hundred bucks and about five entries. But it only

1588
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: happens when the nc doable a tournament starts, and so

1589
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,560
Speaker 1: you can pick a team and if they win, you

1590
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: move on, but you can never pick that team again

1591
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: for the whole tournament. Now, if you guys want to

1592
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 1: get in with me on one of my selections, I

1593
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: will let you for fifty bucks and then we can

1594
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 1: pick together. But just we could do one. We could

1595
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: do all three of us, we could all we just

1596
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: do one as a group for thirty three bucks. Eat.

1597
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 1: If we can just agree on one, Yeah, we'll agree

1598
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: on one and we'll do that the whole time. That's

1599
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 1: what you want to do? Do you want to do that. Yes,

1600
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: I love Okay, all right, so I'll do that. Whenever

1601
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: the picks come out, we'll decide and we'll do that,

1602
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 1: and then we'll make eight more smiles than frowns. If

1603
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: Arkansas makes it, is it gonna be Arkansas? It's up

1604
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: to you. Um. Yeah, it's gonna be hard to argue

1605
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 1: once you can only pick them once, you can't pick

1606
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: them again. Okay, same thing. Yeah, So if you pick uh,

1607
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: North Carolina and they win, where you can never pick

1608
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: North Carolina again regardless how far they go. So there's that, Quinn,

1609
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: give us a final thought for the day. Final thought,

1610
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be in Nashville hanging out with my boys.

1611
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: Glad y'all treating me with a lot of hospitality. And

1612
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad y'all are coming to Bridge Stone Arena. Nice

1613
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: to watch those Arkansas Razorbacks play. So that's my final thought.

1614
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: My final thought is with y'all in the stands, we

1615
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: have a chance to advance, and uh that's what I

1616
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: hope happens. Quinn, Hey, thank you for getting us those tickets.

1617
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: Why do you do that? All right? Thank you guys

1618
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: for listening. Eddie West lets out what's you guys on

1619
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday? See you guys? Theme song written by me,

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01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 1: Bobby Bones and performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on

1621
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: socials at Brandon Ray Music. He's awesome. Thanks to our crew,

1622
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: Our co host Cole McCrawley at Sharp Shot Select, our

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01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 1: segment producer at Kickoff, Kevin, our video producer at Producer Eddie,

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01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 1: our executive producer at Mike Distro, Our co hosts, all producers,

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01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: all lovely gentlemen. Most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm

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Speaker 1: Bobby Bones. Talk to you next week.