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Speaker 1: And I'm saying this right here in front of him,

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Speaker 1: super fan, super fan, not only super fan. You're ready

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Speaker 1: for this, Joe. He's the one that I sent you

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Speaker 1: the articles on you know him? And I go, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: us here at the cannonman, folks breeders best connecting independent

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Speaker 1: cannabitist breeders to the world market. You guys, licensing genetics

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Speaker 1: psycho pharmacology correct. Nice, thank you. Let me put my

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Speaker 1: And if you are that, I'm picking a winner here

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Speaker 1: be fighting over strains and all this other fun stuff

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Speaker 1: for all the way live at cannamed here in beautiful

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Speaker 1: past Sadena, California, and we are with some amazing people

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Speaker 1: and we're talking off the air about what Breeder's Vest

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Speaker 1: is doing. And Dr Arrusso and Dale the CEO joins

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Speaker 1: us as well as Nische who's the VP of business Development,

441
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Speaker 1: and Mohave Richmond cultivator for twenty plus years and been

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Speaker 1: doing it on his own. Now, Mohave, do you work

443
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Speaker 1: with hand in hand Dale on something like this or

444
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Speaker 1: does Dr Russo come in with all his stats and

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Speaker 1: facts and go, hey, sprinkle a little bit of this,

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Speaker 1: sprinkle a little bit of that. Or is it a

447
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Speaker 1: combination of both. Because hearing Dale's experience, it's like, ahh okay,

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Speaker 1: do you get down over here and talk to Mohave

449
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Speaker 1: and sit down and how does that work with you guys? Yeah,

450
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Speaker 1: we all we meet regularly and we all go through

451
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Speaker 1: just about every aspect of the company together as a team.

452
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Speaker 1: And you know, when we get a new Cultivar submitted,

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Speaker 1: one of the first things we do is we present

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Speaker 1: it to Ethan. You're you're a bar guy. Hey, Dale,

455
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Speaker 1: he just gave you one of those and just let

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Speaker 1: you know that was no comment. Yeah, I know it's tough, Yestva. Yes,

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Speaker 1: what I think I'm don't get me wrong, I think

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Speaker 1: I cultival jump in. I'm a Cultival guy. Sorry, continue,

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Speaker 1: they'd be able to explain it a little better before

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Speaker 1: I but I'm gonna get jammed. I'm gonna be like, oh,

461
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull an idiot to move. Also listen to

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Speaker 1: this episode. Yeah, listen to why I call it cultivle now,

463
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Speaker 1: but go ahead. You know, when when when we presented

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Speaker 1: with the CIA and it's got the you know, the

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Speaker 1: list of all the various canabinoids and turpenes, Ethan has

466
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Speaker 1: a look at it and to evaluate whether there's something

467
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Speaker 1: unique and special because there's a lot of the same

468
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Speaker 1: same in our business. You know, there's a lot there's

469
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Speaker 1: some foundational elite clones that were passed around O G. Coush,

470
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Speaker 1: Sour Diesel, Blue dream Jack career and everyone used them

471
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Speaker 1: and they all got crossed. And it's kind of a

472
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Speaker 1: polyhybrid world where you can kind of encounter him. You're

473
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Speaker 1: seeing high to C varieties are pretty much what dominate

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Speaker 1: the shelf. So what we're looking for things, they're their outliers,

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Speaker 1: you know, for people who have kind of and on

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Speaker 1: their own in their own community, breeding by themselves, not

477
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Speaker 1: doing the whole cross everything you get your hands on

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Speaker 1: the special. Is there anything that you guys have found

479
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Speaker 1: that you go, oh my god, Because here's a funny story.

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Speaker 1: As I say that oh my god moment, there's a

481
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Speaker 1: one oh my God moment with my boy little Rich

482
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Speaker 1: who you met that came by the by the by

483
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Speaker 1: the campus, and the one that suppokeed the last, but

484
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: with Biggie Spas he had this cannabis back in the day.

485
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Speaker 1: That was that one that's still to this day. If

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Speaker 1: we could make the one, which we're gonna probably make,

487
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Speaker 1: that one was I want to get talk with Rich

488
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Speaker 1: and say you gotta try this. My point is, there's

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Speaker 1: that one in my head. You've been seeing all these people.

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Speaker 1: People come to you guys from all over the world,

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Speaker 1: maybe countries, whatever, Right, is there one that stands out?

492
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Speaker 1: Maybe even different ones for each one ply have eight exclusive,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, varieties. Really there's eighty of them that

494
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Speaker 1: you guys are like, oh my god, what about Dr

495
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: Dr ruth or anything that makes you go for sure?

496
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Speaker 1: You know, we're really again emphasizing the unique and therapeutics.

497
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Speaker 1: So we're really interested in the cold so called minor

498
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: cannabinoids like cannaba jaral and tetrodor carnaba varian. Also things

499
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Speaker 1: with unique terpenoid profiles that are really going to give

500
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Speaker 1: you the flavor and aroma and effects that are different

501
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Speaker 1: from the average high ta see him mersing chem of

502
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Speaker 1: ore that is so prevalent, you know, Dr Russo, I

503
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Speaker 1: have a question. I guess this is probably for you know,

504
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: Hunt and Russo, for all of you guys. I guess

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Speaker 1: you know when they say sativa in because you know hybrids.

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Speaker 1: Because the reason I'm going here is because I've been

507
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Speaker 1: telling people for a long time there's no such thing

508
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Speaker 1: as uh indica and sativa. I I feel that the

509
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: plant has been so morphed into so many different times,

510
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Speaker 1: they've all got to be hybrid, right, And I might

511
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: and everybody though you're wrong, dude, And I just like that.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not a doctor, but I'm like, dude, I

513
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Speaker 1: don't believe it because I've smoked a lot of freaking

514
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Speaker 1: pot in cannabis or whatever the hell you want to

515
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Speaker 1: call it, and not once have I been like, oh,

516
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Speaker 1: this is ativa or this is indiica. I just feel

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Speaker 1: like that's a kind of a bullshit statement that people

518
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Speaker 1: are using to sell your thought it is, well, well,

519
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Speaker 1: actually there are sativa's and indicas, but they're not what

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Speaker 1: we think they are. Okay, So what do you mean

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00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: by that? So sativa was a Northern European fiber variety

522
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: and what does that mean? Like campmp more traditional made

523
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: for him and Indica meaning from India, which is what

524
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Speaker 1: the word means, we're we're It was a drug variety

525
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: and very similar looking to Sativa um tall narrow leaf.

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Speaker 1: But then in the seventies when we started importing Afghani

527
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Speaker 1: variety the Afghanistan, and there is an attempt to classify

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Speaker 1: Indica as a subspecies of Cannabis sativa in order to

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Speaker 1: avoid a particular UH in law enforcement case. Um, we

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Speaker 1: started calling these Afghani varieties indicas, and then we started

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Speaker 1: calling these narrowly varieties sativas because Cannaba sativa kind of

532
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Speaker 1: embodied the whole gino. So we got it all mixed

533
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Speaker 1: mixed up. So when people say they're smoking in Indica,

534
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: they're actually smoking an Afghani based variety, which is a

535
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Speaker 1: broad leaf more associated with a sedative effect. And when

536
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Speaker 1: they're smoking a sativa, they're smoking what is actually an Indica,

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Speaker 1: which is a narrowly farriday. But to your earlier point,

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Speaker 1: they've all been hybridized at this point, Yeah, that's right.

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00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: That's don't know how you've been a lot deeper than

540
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Speaker 1: just his name. I mean, you know what I mean,

541
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: Dale is lots more than you gave him great earlier.

542
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: It's much more accurate. But but I think it's fair

543
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Speaker 1: to say that when people approach cannabis, they are trying

544
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Speaker 1: to put it into a classification system that can say, like,

545
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Speaker 1: you know, I saw you want to put somewhere. I

546
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: saw billboard recently in downtown l A which I thought

547
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: really addressed the concept, even though the nomenclature is wrong.

548
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: It said Sativa for the streets, Indica for the sheets,

549
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: and it was for a dispensary, right, And their point

550
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: was like, look, if you're gonna wake up in the

551
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: morning and get in your car and go driving traffic

552
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: and go to work and fill out forms, you don't

553
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: want to smoke a heavily sedating variety. That's kind of

554
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: scrupt your hold. I think that's the message that should

555
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: be pushed personally too, even though it's not the real deal.

556
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: I think I like that messaging personally. It's here. I

557
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: feel like, even though it's not legit, legit, but it's

558
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: the right messaging, right, and you know, it's the one

559
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: that everybody hears and and it's kind of hard to

560
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: change things. I mean, there's the concept that mistakes and

561
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: errors turned Latin into French right, and eventually people land

562
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: and say, hey, we're gonna call it something else, and

563
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: we're going to change the language. So if people need

564
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Speaker 1: it to be sativa to understand what they're trying to do,

565
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: then maybe that's why we and you know what, and

566
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Speaker 1: just to be clear, I'm sorry, Doc, but I still

567
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: understand strange. So Dale, it kind of wins with me

568
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: because the document we have not boded house between you

569
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Speaker 1: and well, when you say straight six pointed to that

570
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: of a fungus or some kind of that's when the

571
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: doctor says that. But I still think of what's trade growing,

572
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Speaker 1: Like I still think that. But no matter what I

573
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: always think of, Like if I see six plants in

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Speaker 1: someone's backyard, I think what strains are those? Thank you?

575
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: You know and and and so you know, for me,

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Speaker 1: it's it's funny because I think they have a lot

577
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Speaker 1: of different effects for me. So like I often I

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00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: don't like, um, what I would be taught as indicaus

579
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Speaker 1: to put you in the couch, Phil, I don't like that, Phil.

580
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: I like the you know, smoke a little active and

581
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: witty and because so but it's so hard to find that.

582
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: So essentially, what you guys are saying at at the

583
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Speaker 1: breeders um uh bridgers. Best is you guys are looking

584
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Speaker 1: for those strains that you can identify and say, this

585
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: one is gonna really Chris, this one's gonna give you

586
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: that up and the field that you really are looking for,

587
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: and this one really gonna put you to better night,

588
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: and this one's really gonna make you hungry for appetite

589
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: and so on. Correct, I want to be creative, I

590
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: want to be at I'm begging for that. But wouldn't

591
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: that all play into the genetics of like if you

592
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: gave Blue and I something, we've both smoked the same

593
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: or used the same oil that's supposed to make us both.

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00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: Let's use this use creative that you said the second time,

595
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't it still are you saying it's only gonna be

596
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: a flower or is it gonna be condensed doing oil

597
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: as well? First off with breeders cup, like, what are

598
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: you guys gonna how is that coming out from the

599
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: from the process that depends on the license agreement? I

600
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: mean we're licensing plants these Okay, let's use one of

601
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: these eights that you guys refer to, right and then

602
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: Blues using that as an example, which I like it

603
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: because I want to know how I would consume it.

604
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: And I wanted to understand if you guys thought that

605
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Speaker 1: what you made was gonna be good for everybody that's

606
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Speaker 1: most it, Like, I think it's better to say it

607
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: just in Blake is say, like, is he gonna get

608
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: the same high as I am? Well, you know, it's

609
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: interesting because you're yars Ago. I presented an energetic variety

610
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: to someone and this is this is way back in

611
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: the day, back before we knew anything about what was

612
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Speaker 1: going on. And she said, well, actually, you know what,

613
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: those varieties actually don't work very well for me. I

614
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: was like, really, And then she went to explain that

615
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Speaker 1: she has a d h D and that she takes

616
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Speaker 1: to different But you can kind of make a general

617
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Speaker 1: point about this. If everyone's healthy and good and normal,

618
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: even field, but you're not taking that, you mean, what

619
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: are you taking? But if everybody's here, that's what you're saying, right,

620
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: If everybody's here in the even field not taking anything else,

621
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Speaker 1: So that's good to say, let's take a break and

622
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Speaker 1: come right back. We come back with the third seg.

623
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Speaker 1: When I wanted to was at the end of the

624
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Speaker 1: show or the third segment. Oh perfect, Then we're gonna

625
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: keep going real quick. Then, you guys, um doc, how

626
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Speaker 1: hard is it for you to convince people that look

627
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: at you and say you're just a wee doctor? Are

628
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: your this? Are your that? Because I'm sure they're those

629
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: idiots out there that think this. I mean, we know

630
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: they're out there right there. I'm maybe they don't have

631
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: the balls to say to your face. Yeah, well if

632
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: I believe that, I would have retired to the right.

633
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: But I mean, but but when you sit there and

634
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: when you're convincing people that, let's just face it, everything

635
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: that you guys have said and described, I think there

636
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: should be fifty thousand people right here at this convention

637
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: alone just waiting to hear this and preach to the

638
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: choirs right, and more people on top of that should

639
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: be knowing this. This is why it's still the taboo.

640
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: This is why it's not federally legal. This is why

641
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: we're still fighting the fight. This is why we're out

642
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: here pushing this out on this podcast to do what

643
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm foreseeing what this is. So my point is, in

644
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: the medical profession, you know, when you speak to these

645
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: other doctors, I guess what I'm really trying to ask,

646
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: is how hard is it to convince a colleague of

647
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: yours to really see the benefits of the cannabis. Well? Very,

648
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: but what we very, what we need to do is

649
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: demonstrate results and randomize controlled trials. That's the senior quanne

650
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: of medical proof. And they're just many doctors that won't

651
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: accept anything excepting FDA approved pharmaceutical UM. But I see

652
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: three echelons of cannabis activity. There's herbal cannabis that you

653
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: might recommend to a friend. Then there might be a

654
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: more standardized supplement kind of preparation. And finally, the highest

655
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: echelon is the Food and Drug Administration approved pharmaceutical UM.

656
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: But we we have an eye towards all three stages.

657
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: If you will, you mean we as the company here. Sure.

658
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: I love how you said that, though, because that's so well.

659
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: Once again, you guys have been awesome, by the way,

660
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: because I've got a few but big, big bites from here.

661
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: And do we have a third segment? We do have

662
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: a third segment. I thought we did, Thank you very much.

663
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: It's Cannabis Talk one. We're gonna come back. We're gonna

664
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: break real quick. Told me the show was over. We'll

665
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: be right back after this. He was sleeping. We'll be

666
00:36:50,719 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: right back with Cannabis Talk one oh one. Welcome back

667
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673
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: talk to you guys, and I see that, I feel

674
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Speaker 1: like everyone, anyone can be your patient business partner. Call

675
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: you guys, go on your line as the business development department,

676
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: like wh who is the target audience? Because if I

677
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: wanted to grow my own I can call you guys

678
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: right like, you guys can help me with that. Is

679
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: it only big rows? Or who's your what's your budget? Joke?

680
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: We are big supporters of homegrow. Homegrow is really important. See,

681
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: that's what I feel like it is. That's what I

682
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: feel like. I can call it and be like he

683
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: don't want you guys to help me because what we

684
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: have is already going to be covered by patent by

685
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: the time it gets out to people, if somebody abuses that,

686
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: we we don't want to make money off homegrowers. We

687
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: just want them to be able to grow. The money

688
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: that we're going to make for breeders as a company

689
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: is really going to come from the larger production licenses

690
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: that we give. So we are committed to homegrow and

691
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: if someone is willing to agree that they're not going

692
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: to propagate it, they're not going to breed with it.

693
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: It's just for them. We want them to have that. Now,

694
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: that's I think that's a sythical commitment we have as

695
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: a company. But we still were in business to make

696
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: money for the breeders that give us their license. And

697
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: the cool thing is that's why patents are important, is

698
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: because if you have a patent and somebody breaks their

699
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: their agreement, or somebody shares with somebody and they didn't

700
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: even do an agreement, you can still go to them

701
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: and say, look, you know what you're doing is costing

702
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: our breeder money. You're hurting people. We need you to stop,

703
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: or we need you to take a license. So that

704
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: and that's coming from a patent lawyer BLO, he knows

705
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: what you're talking about there, So so I mean, you know,

706
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: if I just want to grow something at the house,

707
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: and what does that look like for me? How do

708
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: I how do I actually make this happen? Well, we

709
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 1: would our our genetics are available through a commercial license.

710
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: In some of those commercial licenses might actually pretty writing

711
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: to a dispensary for instance, so those varieties might be

712
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: available through a regular retail. Yeah, as we look through

713
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: so many things, you guys and anybody could answer this

714
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: because you guys are all on the same page as

715
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: we all are moving it forward. You guys are just

716
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: doing it at a different level of different speeds. Which

717
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: is awesome. To have eight Wow, strange art whatever you

718
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: want to call them. What are those? Yeah, let's go

719
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: back to those quick. What are the eights? You kind

720
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: of said one, But why do those eight stand out

721
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: to you? Nisha? They stand out because they are unique

722
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: and many of them, I would say at least half

723
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: of them have one very important awards and there generally

724
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: going to be specific and then that the chemical profile

725
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: is addressing a certain need in the human body. So

726
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: one was specifically bred for treating PTSD. We have an

727
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: other that was bread for helping people with UM treating

728
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: symptoms of cancer. Uh one of our cultivars is super

729
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: unique because it's very high in CBG, actually producing somewhere

730
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: between eight and eleven percent CBG with no CBD or

731
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: th HC, which is super rare. Also has more than

732
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: five percent terpenes, which is unique. So I think that

733
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: you know, some of the others on the panel might

734
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: want to talk about um maybe some of the other verb. Yeah.

735
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: We also have some high t c V varieties which

736
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: are known to be good for um What is tc

737
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: V ethan you want to do so, its tetra hydrocnaba varian.

738
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: It's got a three carbon side chain instead of the

739
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: five carbon side chain of th HC. It's also different

740
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: to th HC because um it at a low dose

741
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: is actually what's called a neutral antagonist at the CB

742
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 1: one receptor. That means that as hunger rather than producing

743
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: the munchies. But despite that, it's not a downer. If

744
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: people had a pure UH chemo aar this, they would

745
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: feel like their senses were a little heightened, they'd feel sharp,

746
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be hungry. It's also good for nerve based

747
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: pain and it has effects against seizures. I need that

748
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, you describing a connect that. Yeah, that's

749
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: the one. I like, Well, that's it. We want to

750
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: get that kind of variety into the hands of people

751
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: that might appreciate it or need it. Dr Russ used

752
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: to smoke. I haven't smoked for many years. What is this?

753
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: People have a misconception as they probably think I'm high

754
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: all the time. Yes, I do know my subject, but

755
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: most of it's based on past experience. Um so yes,

756
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: hold on, what is this that he's taking right now? Okay,

757
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: so do you just use the oils as Yeah? I

758
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: I mean I will use oils and and such when

759
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: I needed to treat something. He's so great. If he

760
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: just touched it with his lips right now and just

761
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: put your teekster in his mouth, I wouldn't love him

762
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: for it. He did it like a straw, you know.

763
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: Oh here you go, and he hands it back to

764
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: her like, hey, thanks for the teak stirt. Exactly what happened.

765
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: So many times I punched somebody if they did that

766
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: with mine. You gotta have the respect like Blue District here.

767
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying you can't just do that, but

768
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: it's very nice. You need to even offer somebody because

769
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: you don't even know how people are, like I mean,

770
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: like I would not reminded nobody. I'm not even kidding

771
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: because people are just like just the normal folks. You

772
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: just don't know. So, so what did I just take

773
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: because that it doesn't have HB And I love that

774
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: because that does sound like like my my style right there.

775
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: It's really excited about our th h c V variety

776
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: at the moment. A good natural taste. Yeah, no, it

777
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: actually teaches a little different. As I say, natural taste folks,

778
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be one hundred from them. No dirt taste,

779
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: like I don't really just that actually cleaner natural cleaner

780
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: doesn't have the natural dirt grass taste like can sometimes

781
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: you taste something that he has that it's gotta earth taste,

782
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: but it doesn't have it so much of a bite.

783
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 1: There was a little flavor to what was that flavor?

784
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: That's a little if that's not the THTV that's you're tasting,

785
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: there's a little something that's just it. Do we know

786
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: I do not remember the turpines in this particular. She's

787
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: like that something that I want to ask you guys,

788
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: and everybody could give their opinions and thoughts. But I

789
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: think Dr Russ so you may have a better elaborate

790
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: answer that something that Blew and I have been pushing

791
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: and wanting and which is everything. And maybe you guys

792
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: want to research and development and utilizing cannabis in the

793
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: same aspect that I know. At two hundred and twenty

794
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: five pounds, thank you have lost a lot of weight.

795
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: How many ad bills I need to take? At my weight,

796
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: I know what I need to do. It used to

797
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: be three pounds. But my point I lost the weight.

798
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: That's why I made a joke about that. But my

799
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: point is I used to know for ad villa is

800
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: what I take. I want the research for as simple

801
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: as that for everything else, but as simple as that

802
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: for somebody who was taking advils four times every four

803
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: hours from my bad ankle that I just had surgery

804
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: on for for for knowing the you know when you

805
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: go to CBS and you see you know, you go

806
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: down the aisles and you see the take this for that,

807
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about these simple pains and normal common

808
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: folk problems, right, the normal common folk problems. When do

809
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: we foresee that chart that foresees mail between a ninety

810
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: pounds and one, twenty one, two hundred should take X

811
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: amount of cb D point one too. Am I off

812
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: to think that that ever happens. It's impossible. It's not

813
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: in this instance, because this is not a medicine that

814
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: you take on a milligram per kilogram basis. But couldn't

815
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: we get dr a dose like maybe this this is

816
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: the thing, but it has to be individualized. Everybody's innate

817
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: endocannabinoid system is a little bit distinct what pills too,

818
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: though not so much there you you go off by

819
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: people's weight. In this instance, you have to titrate, in

820
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: other words, slowly elevate your dose to the point where

821
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: it's going to provide relief to the symptoms, hopefully without

822
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: side effects meaning intoxication or being too high or getting

823
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: paranoid or that kind of thing. Because I do get

824
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: paranoid sometimes, right if I if I do, if I

825
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: take an edible, like if I take anything over ten milligrams,

826
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: I'm over here like oh shit, like I and I

827
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: just and then you know, my wife can sit there

828
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: and take you know, fifty of the same damn thing

829
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: I took, and she's just like, you're ready to go

830
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: somewhere and You're like, I can't go nowhere over here

831
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: sweat and you want dude, like you know, you're ready

832
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: to go to dinner? No, can you pick it up

833
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: from please? Like are you in the bathroom? And I

834
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: get scared and I feel like, you know, like thirty milligrams,

835
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: I've been like scared. What's the last time you felt

836
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: like that? Though the recent I don't let myself do

837
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: it anymore. I'm you know, yeah, you know, so yeah,

838
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: these are great, So Dr Russo, is it fair to

839
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: say that you just right now my parade? Is that

840
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: not gonna happen? Like? Am I my delusional? The good

841
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: news is that if somebody has a nailment they're trying

842
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: to treat with a cannabis based medicine, it's very likely

843
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: that they'll find a dose that provides a kind of

844
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: relief they want and without being problematic for them. So

845
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: it's more of aself, it's more of a self medicated

846
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: You have to figure it out, sure, but that's not

847
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: so difficult. The key thing is to not overshare at

848
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: the beginning, and you know, have a bad expert. Well,

849
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: I was just gonna add that, you know, one of

850
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: the challenges in our modern market is everyone shops by

851
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: the numbers, right, Everyone shops like how much does it cost?

852
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: And how potent is it? And and and because they

853
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: want to get the biggest bang for their buck. Right,

854
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: it's expensive over tax. We know all the issues, right, Um,

855
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: but it doesn't speak to potency because there's so much

856
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: more going on than just how much THHD is in

857
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: a product. It's because the potency could affect blue different

858
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: than it affects me totally exactly. So so what we

859
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: what we need to come to, which is challenging for cannabis,

860
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: is that some way of describing potency on the label,

861
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: which there's groups like five just trying to figure out

862
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: a way with color coded kind of leaflets. This is

863
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: the peak of it. If you're pissing anxiety, don't do

864
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: this because this is more likely to cause this is

865
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: more likely to make the same thing like we see

866
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: on these pool commercials. This could cause this cause that

867
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: they're still buying them. Companies are buying primetime network television spots,

868
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's obviously working and

869
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: it's you could die. Okay, hey doc, what is this

870
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: new pool? But but but the reality is is there

871
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: could be an eighteen percent THHC variety that can knock

872
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: someone off their feet and cause major adverse reaction where

873
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: and they're not even an advocate for what they hate it.

874
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: They go spreading the word going, it's the worst thing

875
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: ever for you. It's so crazy to think that could

876
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: happen to somebody. It does happen, It does happen. Does

877
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: the time? My mom, you know, she she she has

878
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: always been against cannabis. Infactually left my father, you know,

879
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: because of cannabis because he taught us how to sell

880
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: we when we were young kids. But that's beside the point.

881
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: But you know, and and then one day she's having

882
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: alcohol and she said, you know what, I want to

883
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: try it, and my my nephew, and I'm like, why

884
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: didn't you call me? Like what you know, he's seventeen

885
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: or eighteen years old at the time. He's like, here,

886
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: try this. Must have been so sad that the first

887
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: great she's she's like, she smoked over, she smoked no, no,

888
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: she ate brownie. And that was not even from a store.

889
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: So the melograms were like, oh, here, it's irrelevant to

890
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: whatever the number that he said this is. This is

891
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: so your brother has a little gratitude, little brother, Why

892
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: did you call me? Yeah? So she she tries and

893
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: she's like, I'll never try it again, right because she

894
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: was like almost fell over. I was, and that I

895
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: was like, first of all, yeah, first of all, you

896
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been drinking with it for your first time.

897
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: Second of all, you know you took it from you know,

898
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: our nephew. But you know that we're I mean, not

899
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: that we're professionals, but we're definitely more professionals than he is.

900
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: At eight old kid yea world that's got a brownie

901
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: that his buddy made, you know, so and so. But

902
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,479
Speaker 1: but it's just that that that happens to so many

903
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: of us, you know, that are that are starting to turn,

904
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, like that that corner around to well, let

905
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: me try it, and then someone just gives them some

906
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: freaking you know, wobbler and they're just going, oh, you know,

907
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: this is stupid. I can't believe I did that. And

908
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: that's the unfortunate part is, you know, And and that's

909
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: why our message is so important. It start low. You

910
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: can always you know, dose up, you can't dose down,

911
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: you know. And that's where we preach on the show too.

912
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: By the way you guys, everything you've been describing is

913
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: everything that we preach on this show on a consistent basis.

914
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: It's always micro doce and for those who listen, don't.

915
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: And if you're a consumer, then you're a consumer. You

916
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: don't even to know that, you know, if you're helping somebody,

917
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: help him out and give them a if you got

918
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: a five mille ground to take up half by to

919
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: that started to a half, I mean, like, don't even

920
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: go af. So we tell people all the time, So

921
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: just to let you know what worth spreading the word about. Truth.

922
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: So everything you guys are doing, we love you guys.

923
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: If there's anything that we can do, Dr Rusto, is

924
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: anything else that you'd like to spread the word about

925
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: and share it before we let you guys go? No,

926
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: it's just great to have this opportunity to get the

927
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: word out about how we're trying to uh support independent

928
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 1: cannabis breeders and give them an outlet for their work. No,

929
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: thank you guys. Anybody else, you're no deal. You're gonna

930
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: be on tomorrow with us, so pipe down. Uh well, hobby,

931
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: what about you? And No, I's gonna say just the

932
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: same as what what Ethan just said, and actually it

933
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: goes beyond that. It actually speaks to the consumer that

934
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: we're trying to connect the consumer with the varieties that

935
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: the independent, independent breeders have have developed that really have

936
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: a lot of value. I love it. And VP of

937
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: Business Development over here, Nieha, Well, thank you very much

938
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Speaker 1: for the opportunity. I would encourage people to visit our

939
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: website at breeders Best dot com. On the about page

940
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: you'll find some resources is to the things that our

941
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: whole team has produced beyond breeders Best. So if people

942
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: want to learn more about dosing or growing or i

943
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: P then they can. What is this grease lightning over here?

944
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: Is the total grease lightning? Ding ding Ding Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Summer scho It. That's the end of Cannabis Talk one

946
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: oh one spring break. Here you go. D Borros, Well, guys,

947
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: we want to thank you guys for joining Cannabis Talk

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00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:43,200
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