1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Revel. 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip top. 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 3: Jesus. Oh do you want. 4 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Us doing? What? 5 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 4: It's time to beat? 6 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's Monday Morning. Get fired the hell up 7 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: the best damn combat sports show they ever created. It's 8 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: right in front of you, deep inside of your face. Hoole, Hey, 9 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: it's Morning Combat. My name is Brian Campbell. That BBC 10 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: with that you know that bde those alpha like qualities. 11 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: Next to me is my co host on this Monday, 12 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: February seventeenth, twenty twenty five. Quick happy birthday shoutouts to 13 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 2: my older sister Jen Michael Jordan and my childhood neighbor 14 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: Greg mccurrier. But this time, let me introduce my co host. 15 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: He's not in the nation's capital, but we do have 16 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: him here. The connection is working. He got that McDonald's WiFi. 17 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: It's Luke Thomas LT. How the heck are you? 18 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: What's up? Basilet's see, I'm actually in New York City. 19 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to go to the studio today to 20 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: do the show, so I'm here in my hotel room 21 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: going to get it done. But hopefully this McDonald's WiFi 22 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: will hold. I appreciate everyone's patience, but for a good 23 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: show today. 24 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: Well, so far it sounds like someone's arsehole, but we'll 25 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: take it. Luke, is are you using the backdrop of 26 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: Manhattan the Big Apple to entertain one tuks? 27 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: Yes, we took her to Broadway last night. Unfortunately, we 28 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,919 Speaker 1: went to the Empire State yesterday while it was raining 29 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: and cloudy, and I paid to go to the one 30 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: hundred and second floor observatory and you couldn't see a 31 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: single thing nothing. It was absolutely cloud So that was 32 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: not great. But I think I've never been to a 33 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Broadway show before, and never first time in my whole life. 34 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: They're good at it. They're real good. 35 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: They are there was They're a lot better than your 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: sound quality at the moment. But then Broadway folks, including Hamilton, 37 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: as once reviewed on this program, they are very very 38 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: good at it. 39 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: Quick remind how bad does it sound? I don't understand 40 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: that why it sounds. 41 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: It got worse since our pre show fixing. I don't know, 42 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: you know what we're gonna do about it, but you know, 43 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: maybe we'll maybe if you just mime, I'll just like 44 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 2: try to impersonate you and try to guess what you're 45 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: gonna say, right, you know what I mean? 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: Living as well. Aland look, if you've got any ideas 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: about what you want me to do, just put in 48 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 1: the chat and we'll figure it out. 49 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's do it. 50 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: I got you. 51 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: Let's do a little bit of business. That was the 52 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: third member of our team, Long Island. Look No Seed 53 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: of the main Card Minute podcast. You'll be hearing from 54 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: him today Today's episode of Morning Combat by the Way, 55 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: presented by DraftKings, Yes, Drafts, the Crown is yours. Shout 56 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: out to everybody watching live on YouTube, watching on the 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: DraftKings Network, listening to the audio, thank you for having 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: our back. If we could ask you to like the 59 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: episode on YouTube, subscribe one day, one day, we'll get 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: to two hundred thousand YouTube subscribers, maybe today. And obviously 61 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: you could follow our fine YouTube spinoff channels right there 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: to get even more content inside the MK universe. And 63 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: how about today's show, We're gonna break down all things 64 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: that Middleway banger at UFC Vegas over the weekend. I 65 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: told y'all Cannon here Hobo Coop was gonna light up. Also, 66 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: also at about eleven forty five am Eastern today on 67 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: this program, the businessman Keyshawn Davis will join us fresh 68 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: off of his title winning performance Friday night at the 69 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: Theater at Madison Square Garden. Hey, Luke, one one word 70 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: to describe Keyshaan Davis right now? 71 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: The electric? 72 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, electric is a way to say it. So so 73 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: much to get into on this show quickly, Long Island, Luke, 74 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: thank you for rejoining us if you can. Was it 75 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: a good weekend for your bets on the main card? 76 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: Minute with one Gaffney Jim Pierre. 77 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 5: It was a weird weekend. So I went four for 78 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 5: six on the last six fights, but the way I parlayed. 79 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: Him, it wasn't really a winning week. 80 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: Gaff had a great week though. 81 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 5: Gaff called, like the entire main card, I did pretty 82 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 5: solid on the prelims overall. 83 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: Can't complain good weight. 84 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Luke Thomas, How was the homeless level right 85 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 2: now in Manhattan? 86 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 6: Um? 87 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 1: Not that bad? I mean, you know they're always sleeping 88 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: on the subway, but like in terms of the street, 89 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 1: I actually expected it to be worse. It was not worse. 90 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 1: It was better. 91 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: So as long as you don't get hate daddy, Why 92 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: why is that man's butthole showing on the one train? 93 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: As long as that doesn't happen, You've had a good day, 94 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: all right. 95 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: I had to have it. I had to have it. 96 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: Talk with the two star. I was like, Okay, when 97 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: we go into the New York City subway, you have 98 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: to treat it like I'm taking you to the bathroom. 99 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: Don't touch the handrails, don't touch the seat, don't touch anything. 100 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: Just sit down. And then we get home, we have 101 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: to burn our clothes. 102 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: Okay, forget every damn thing that you saw. All right, 103 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: we got a loaded show for you today, folks. Do 104 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: I have any other reminders? Yes? One more. Morningcombat at 105 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: gmail dot com would be your email address if you'd 106 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: like to reach the show. Hey, get ready for Friday. 107 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: We got fan subs coming back. We got dead wrong. 108 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: Say hi to Mikey when you're there. And as always, 109 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: a reminder, your submission will not be read on the 110 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: show if it's attached with a picture of your genitalia. 111 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: That's not fair to do to an employee of this program. 112 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. All right, let's see how long 113 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: we can keep this Wi fi together. We got a 114 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: lot to talk about. Let's get right into the show, 115 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: right here, right now. Jesus Jones let's do a topic 116 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: Number one UFC Fight Night, Vegas Middleweight Division Jared Kennon. 117 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: He're rallying back from hell in round one to finish 118 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: a larger and seemingly more dangerous RoboCop Gregory Rodriguez, So Luke, 119 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: even though Cannoneir was forced into the fire early by 120 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 2: an overly aggressive RoboCop at age forty, do you believe 121 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: Kanoneer is actually more effective when he's willing to get 122 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: dirty and push for the ko like we saw on 123 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: Saturday night rather than counter from the outside. Or was 124 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: this merely the result of facing a dangerous yet very 125 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: inexperienced opponent at the highest level. 126 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: It's a great question. I tend to think of it 127 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: as maybe a little column A, column B, but mostly 128 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: column B. It is clear that when a guy like 129 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: Cannoneir is pressed that he has certain capabilities and certain 130 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: willingness to push to do things that other guys simply 131 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: don't have in this division and maybe broader in the UFC, 132 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: like he's got that dog in him in ways that 133 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: is just really hard to describe. And the fact that 134 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: you saw at the stat at the end of the 135 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: fight he is only one of two fighters, by the way, 136 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: to have a knockout in three different weight classes along 137 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: with Connor McGregor, I mean, just a pretty remarkable testament 138 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: to the fact that he's getting that, you know, over 139 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: the age of forty basically, right. I just sort of like, 140 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: this is kind of who he is at the same time. 141 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: To me, yes, the durability, the toughness plays a big 142 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: role on how that can make him rally in martial 143 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: forces that he needs to win. But BC, I would 144 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: just be I think it's disingenuous to not point out 145 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: that what really is happening here was that a guy 146 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: has something more than just a certain set of intangibilities. 147 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: This was veteran savvy, right, So is it toughness? Of course, 148 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: you don't get to the next round if you don't 149 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: have it. But he combined it with veteran savvy to 150 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: rally himself make necessary adjustments, begin to put the pressure 151 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: on again. I don't know if it's Rodriguez or Rodriguez. 152 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: They were calling Rodriguez on the broadcast, so that's what 153 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to say, to begin to pressure Rodriguez, and 154 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: then he basically kind of fell apart down the stretch, 155 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: losing just basically a matter of seconds into that fourth 156 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: round when they came out of that he got dropped 157 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the third. This was a guy 158 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: showing what it means to have been in the fire before. 159 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: This was a guy showing what it means to have 160 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: been in multiple main events who has fought the very 161 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: best that this division had to offer at the time 162 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: in which he was around. He was combining all of 163 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: that experience BC with the skills that he has, the 164 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: technical skills that he has. He comes from a great team, 165 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: plus that dog you kind of referenced earlier where he 166 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: has to get roughed up to kind of come back. 167 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: You know, that certainly puts some urgency under him. But 168 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: he was able. A lot of guys BC, when they 169 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: have forced to be urgent, they can't muster that will 170 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: and they don't know how to get from point A 171 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: two point B. He had the skills, he had the experience, 172 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: which I think is the most important one, and of 173 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: course he has the sort of internal fortitude to get 174 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: him to that next place. But that to me was 175 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: a function of somebody just knowing what it's like to 176 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: be in those kinds of spots, knowing what It's like 177 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: to have to climb a ladder out of a bad 178 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: place and then being able to then go and execute 179 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: and do it. It's a combination of many things. To me, 180 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: it's the better and experience at the top of the 181 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: food chain there. 182 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, very well said, Look, this was an absolutely all 183 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: action banger of a main event. You gotta shout out 184 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: cannon Air at forty for his ability to not only 185 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: come in in like world class physical shape, but to 186 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: carry on and carry through showing great stamina, heart, court, courage, power, 187 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: all that stuff. But I teaed up that question for 188 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: a reason, Luke, because last week, when we were previewing 189 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: this fight, knowing that cannoneers at the back end of 190 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: his run but still can be dangerous, is in great 191 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: shape enough to maybe screw around and get another run 192 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: to the top, I needed him to be more offensive. This, 193 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: like I said, was more a factor of a very 194 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: larger opponent just taking it to him off the start 195 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: that he was sort of before he could even make 196 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: the decision he was in a firefight. I'm not necessarily 197 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 2: asking Cannoneir to dumb down his style. I just I 198 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: think we've seen him for a long time as that smart, 199 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: technical counterpuncher with a big power, but we've also seen 200 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 2: him in big fights kind of threaten this right hand, 201 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 2: stalk his opponent, but never really take that step forward. So, Luke, 202 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: I'm not asking him to get lit up in future matchups, 203 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 2: but if he could realize the strength and the combination 204 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: of his power, his technical finishing ability and that will 205 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: and that chin, I wonder if he can take literally 206 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: any of the elite middleweights and if he could get 207 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: them into a bit of a fight, whether that's going 208 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: to increase his chances moving forward for as long as 209 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: he has left. 210 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: You're muted, Luke. 211 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: Luke Thomas, you're muted. 212 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: You're muted. Apologies, who would you say that that would 213 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: be true about? Like, I mean, it's not like I 214 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: don't think that what you're onto, Bears, what you're pointing 215 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: out is relevant. And I feel like we often get 216 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: into a place after a big fight like this for 217 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: a main event, even at the Apex, where we want 218 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: to make sure that we give the winning guy the credit, 219 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: and I'm happy to do that. He really is. He 220 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: was clearly the better guy, certainly down the stretch, and 221 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: maybe not at first, but you know, the majority of 222 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: that time. I mean, people gave the second round to 223 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: Rodriguez and I don't mind that, But to me, you 224 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: could see the tide turning in that round, right, You 225 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: could see the life of beginning to get drained out 226 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: of him. And to me, when you ask this question 227 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: about like, oh, you know, if he was putting some 228 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: of these other scenarios, could you get more out of him? 229 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: I certainly after Saturday, do not want to be in 230 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: a place where I say the answer to that is 231 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: automatically no. On the other hand, how do we watch 232 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: a fight like that and say yes, of course a 233 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: guy like kennany or can rally in all of these 234 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: very very difficult circumstances. At the same time, Rodriguez was 235 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: not really ready for prime time. It didn't look to 236 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: me like he had the energy to go five rounds. 237 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: And this was not a fight that I mean. The 238 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: first round was a grueling pace, but after that it 239 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: was not necessarily it was a high pace, but it 240 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: wasn't an insane pace. How much of this, if we're 241 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: being honest, is canonear having a lot of ability, a 242 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: lot of will, And as I mentioned, that real veteran 243 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: experience that I think honestly saved his chances here. At 244 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: the same time, BC, when a contender like Thisrodriguez is 245 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: going up against somebody who's over the age of Fortyguez, 246 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: Rodriguez whatever, thirty two. When there doesn't when that turnover 247 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: doesn't happen between old and new, it's actually kind of 248 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: bad for the division for that to be the case, 249 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: because new blood just doesn't come up in the way 250 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: that it's supposed to. And when that kind of failure 251 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: takes place, I do think we have to take inventory 252 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: of it and say, I don't know, man like, he 253 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: wasn't ready for primetime here in a way that for 254 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: Canonear it was kind of like I say, old news, 255 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: but he was quite accustomed to it. 256 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: In the end, I agree with the original comment that 257 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: there's a little column ay Colin B, but it's certainly 258 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 2: a lot of Colin B. And that's Gregory Rodriguez looking 259 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: as scary as anyone we've seen as a middleweight for 260 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: like the first three minutes. I mean, look when they 261 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: stood across from each other at the way in, when 262 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: they stood across from each other during the pre fight instructions, 263 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: You're like RoboCop looks like a heavyweight against a blown 264 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: up welterweight or something. I mean, it was staggering, and 265 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: then you see him deliver that level of carnage in 266 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: the opening round, It's like, holy crap. But but we've 267 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: kind of seen this before, even though RoboCop came in 268 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 2: with a five to one record in his last six 269 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: when he puts his head above water against higher level competition, 270 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: he kind of gets exposed. We're starting to get to 271 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: that point now if you consider he's what thirty one 272 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: thirty two years old, where he's gonna have to figure 273 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: out how to be a consistent fighter, not just a 274 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: Shane carwinesque one round destroyer, I mean Long Island. Look, 275 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: can we play the critical tweet we have here of 276 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: Rodriguez's cardio no going He's going into a five round fight? 277 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: This is them Mad Joey's saying, how the f did 278 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: Rodriguez come into a five round main event with one 279 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: round cardio? Luke? Is that fair to say? This is 280 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 2: the biggest fight of his career against a former title challenger, 281 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: a five rounder and this guy looked like he had 282 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: about six and a half minutes worth of offense in. 283 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: That Again, it sucks, right, because you don't want to 284 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: take this from Canonear. Dude, he showed up big time 285 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: after a very inauspicious beginning, getting dropped twice in that 286 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: first round. Neither of them were terrible drops, by the way, 287 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: we should kind of talk about that as well. It 288 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: wasn't like his head slammed back in either case, but 289 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: they were pretty bad. But at the same time, I mean, BC, 290 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about the cardio, but to me, it's more 291 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: than just a cardio. Canonear had to make some adjustments 292 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: about what he was doing and what kind of shot 293 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: selection to go for, how to pressure, what he was 294 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: looking for, and what he needed to do once that happened. 295 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: Rodriguez didn't have a second set of adjustments himself. He 296 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: had like a game plan. He was sticking to it, 297 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: and then as it failed and he failed along with it, 298 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: he just wrote it out. Basically. The majority of the way, 299 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: there wasn't There wasn't a second order of rethinking what 300 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: you needed to do to take away this and then 301 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: add to that, whereas you did get some of that 302 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: with Jared Knnoneer. Jared Knnoneer is just a higher level guy. 303 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about the dog in him. And 304 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: I I'm sound like a broken record. I simply do 305 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: not wish to deny that, but I feel like a 306 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: focus on that when the issues are you didn't have 307 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: the skills in this particular matchup. But again, not an 308 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: easy guy to beat. I'm not suggesting he's like some 309 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: scrub or something, but in the moment in time, dude, 310 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: there just wasn't enough there to handle this. So like 311 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: the cardio collapse, of course, but the cardio is going 312 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: to collapse a lot easier when you're being pushed a 313 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: little bit. It's going to be it's gonna scuse me, 314 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: the cardio is going to collapse a lot quicker you're 315 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: being pushed, or you're out of sorts, or you're hurt, 316 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: or you don't really know what to do. That's when 317 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: the cardio begins to drain, because it becomes also a 318 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: function of pan. It becomes a function to worry. You're reacting, 319 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: you're not thinking, you're not flowing. I think you've got 320 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: a lot of that too. To me, this was Rodriguez 321 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: getting a good chance to be like not only I'm 322 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: not only am I going to ascend in the rankings 323 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: and get a signature win, but I'm gonna show you 324 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: the depth of my adjustment ability, I'm gonna show you 325 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: the depth of my quality. And there just wasn't enough there. 326 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest reason among all that 327 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: he failed. 328 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: I mean, he came in unranked, looking to parachute into 329 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: the top fifteen, considering he was facing the number seven 330 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: guy in Cannoneir, And obviously, again credit to Cannonir, not 331 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: just for the heart, but for the no how in 332 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: how he put him away. It was absolutely systematic, technical 333 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: and brutal at the same time. But cannon Heir comes 334 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: in ranked number seven despite this win, which is a 335 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: soft you almost have forgot type of deal forty years old. 336 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: But we all thought he was around this ability, still 337 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: didn't know if he was going to pass this test. 338 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: Came in as a betting undercar underdog, which kind of 339 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: looks comical in hindsight. But if we spend this forward, 340 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 2: Cannoneer fears that this one won't do a whole hell 341 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: of a lot for his future. Let's listen into Jared 342 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: post fight. 343 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 7: I didn't say anybody is specifically, but if you were 344 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 7: to look at the rankings, I would I would like 345 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 7: a ranked opponent for sure. I think I'm definitely gonna 346 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 7: get a ranked opponent after that victory. 347 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 4: I would like somebody ranked higher than me. 348 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 7: Unfortunately, all the people ranked higher than me are either 349 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 7: in line to get a title shot or going to 350 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 7: wait for a title shot, or just beat me. 351 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 4: So but I'm not going to count rule anything out. Shoot. 352 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 7: If they say, hey, Jared, we need you to fight 353 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 7: drinkers next for the bell, I'm like, hell, yes, I'm ready. 354 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 4: Do you foresee rematches in your future? Sean Strickland Izzy 355 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: s something like that. 356 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, three people, four people in the rankings ahead 357 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 7: of me have beaten me, and I'm ranked seven. That 358 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 7: means three people who I haven't either haven't fought or 359 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 7: haven't or beat so two people I haven't fought. Dracosen 360 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 7: comes out, and the other four people have five people 361 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 7: I fought. 362 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 4: So what was the question? Do you foresee yourself rematching 363 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: a Shan Strat? 364 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: Oh? 365 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely? Yeah? With that. With that being said, as long 366 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 4: as I keep winning, you know what I mean? 367 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Louke, even though he has a potential issue with 368 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: the with those ranked ahead of him have already fought 369 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 2: him and beat him. A lot of those like Strickland 370 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: and Ada Sonia are coming off disappointing performances. What could 371 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: this win mean to a forty year old cannoneer in 372 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 2: terms of getting back in line for another chance at 373 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: the title. 374 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 1: Not much. I don't think it means much. I mean, 375 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: I we just have to be realistic. It was this 376 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: was the UFC kind of seeing what they've got left 377 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: in Cannonear and the answer is still something there, clearly 378 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: obviously right. At the same time, they were trying to 379 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: see what they had with RoboCop and it just didn't 380 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: really go anywhere, right. He showed some clearly he's dangerous, 381 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: but against a certain quality of fighter. When that first 382 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: order danger doesn't really succeed, there appears to be a 383 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: bit of a collapse that is emminent over the course 384 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: of time, and I think that really is the lesson 385 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: they were trying to take from this one. I don't 386 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: think it really necessarily has title implications. And again I 387 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: don't really want to deny Jared what he has owed 388 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: over the age of forty. Only now one of two 389 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: fighters have a KO in three different week classes in 390 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: the UFC, a remarkable achievement in its own right, even 391 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: if he never held the title, but like there's just 392 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: a lot of people ahead of him. I know that 393 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of rematches that he wants in certain cases, 394 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: and maybe he'll get some of them. I just find 395 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: it my personal belief is that it's very unlikely he 396 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: gets another UFC title. I think it's just too far away, 397 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: just too many other moving pieces. It's just not going 398 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: to work. 399 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: Okay with you saying that, and I understand everything you're saying, 400 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: I agree largely. I like the idea of him rematching Strickland. 401 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: That first fight he won by split decisions. It wasn't 402 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: maybe the best of either of them. Now Strickland under 403 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: a new coach, conceivably moving forward, you're gonna be interested 404 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 2: in seeing does he alters style? Is he gonna be 405 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: more offensive? To put him in against that version of 406 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: Cannoneer coming off that performance, we may see fireworks. I 407 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: don't think you know Jared Kannoneer would be a huge 408 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 2: underdog at all in that fight. So as much as 409 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, given his age, given the 410 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: division a hut of him, he is in that veteran 411 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: spot where he made that joke. They want me to 412 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: fight DDP tomorrow. I'm ready where If you're looking for 413 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: a quality name who's been there before last minute, he 414 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: fits that bit. But what if he packages this win with, 415 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: say a second win over Strickland, that might change the 416 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: conversation a little bit. 417 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: If he'd beat Strickland, that's one thing, but I would 418 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm expecting fireworks if they fought again. 419 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: First of all, I am interested in that fight. I 420 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: think that fight actually makes a lot more sense than 421 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: it once did, so I'm totally on board with it. 422 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 1: Let's see what happens, especially after where they are now. However, 423 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: like this, this is my personal belief. I guess we'll 424 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: see what happens. I do not believe that Strickland's going 425 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: to get any more offensive or any better outside of 426 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: the tutelage and the oversight of Eric Nixon. That's not 427 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: to say that again, their relationship as a corner and 428 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: team ran its course and maybe you just have to 429 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: go a different direction, or that there's like no other 430 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: good coaches he could find. But to me, like what 431 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 1: he had going on in that second fight is a 432 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: much bigger issue that I don't think a coaching switch 433 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: is really going to help. That's a separate question from 434 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: what it might mean for Jared Kannoneer to beat him 435 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: him and what that could do for him, obviously, because 436 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: as we just know, Strickland was already just in a 437 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: title fight. It could be kind of big, right, So 438 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: that fight I'm okay with, and maybe I'm short selling 439 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: Cannoneer's title opportunities by virtue of that, But just as 440 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: a personal matter, I don't think that fight would be 441 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: fireworks unless Cannoneer made it fireworks. It just simply would 442 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: not be that there. I don't know. I'm not convince. 443 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: I'm wondering, though ananeer goes through this war as he did, 444 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: did the veteran skills took down the monster, whether he 445 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: goes hey, maybe I implement a little bit more of 446 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: that pressure and that urgency moving forward. I've always been 447 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: a big can of Neir Fan Luke. I don't know 448 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: if I think I might even picked him to be 449 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: Izzy at that point I thought he could. I was 450 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: disappointed at the caution that he showed in what you know, 451 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: late in his thirties. That was the mountaintop moment of 452 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: his career. I just still think there's something. I mean, look, 453 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: he doesn't look past it. Take was standing that beating 454 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 2: in the first round. Notwithstanding, he doesn't look past it. 455 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: So he's certainly somebody that I'm watching closely, whether it's 456 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 2: a last minute call or whether he could just kind 457 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: of linger and not lose. You string together some wins, 458 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: you never know quickly. On RoboCop, though, that disbarred lawyer 459 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: from Atlanta, Jed Mshue always says, you know, first team, 460 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: all body looks great getting off the bus. Let's show 461 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 2: you a pick of RoboCop. When he actually did get 462 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: off the bus. Uh, should we have bet against him 463 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: after this? Luc Or? Is this exactly what it means 464 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: to look cool in South America? 465 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I don't understand the way 466 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: that young men dress at all anymore. And by that 467 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know what's cool. It's not like 468 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: I have any idea what's cool, but I don't understand 469 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: their haircuts. Although he was bald, I don't understand what 470 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 1: they're wearing. I don't want none of it. May like, 471 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 1: who is the dumb ass that said, hey, let's make 472 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: our hair look like broccoli? Like you're a fucking idiot. 473 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: Who on earth would like that, and yet they all 474 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: do it, And yet they all do it. So I 475 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: don't understand anything about it. But my man was rocking 476 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: it with confidence. Didn't didn't didn't get him the dub, 477 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: but you know he liked this or whatever. 478 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: Hopefully he can rock the treadmill Luke with some more confidence. 479 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: He's gonna have to fix this star this stamina issue. 480 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 2: He is a dude. He's gonna get killer knockouts he 481 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: gets after it. He's fun to watch, I hope for 482 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: his sake. This is that turning point moment just the 483 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: same very quickly. 484 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: They mentioned it a little bit when he knocked Cannoneer down, 485 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: like he didn't even try to go for any jiu 486 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: jitsu in that fight. This is another thing to me 487 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: that seemed like we should probably bring up very very quickly, 488 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: bec which is this is what I mean. A guy 489 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: like cannon Ear when things go bad, leaves no stone unturned, 490 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: like he'll do justified. I mean, he's got his core 491 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: skill set or whatever, but you know he's gonna scrape 492 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: and claw and climb and do whatever he has to, 493 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: obviously within the rules to get the job done. It 494 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: didn't look to me like RoboCop was doing that. It 495 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: looked to me like he was trying to win a 496 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: certain way, and when that didn't happen, it just kind 497 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: of went away. And I'm like, the fact that this 498 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: guy didn't use his jiu jitsu, to me, seemed like 499 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: a big problem, something to keep in mind for the future. 500 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: It could be first team all donk Donkerson if he 501 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: doesn't fix these strategic issues, Luke. But we'll find out. 502 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to topic number two, and it's 503 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: the UFC Vegas undercard, which look I liked this card 504 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: coming in on paper. I thought it actually overachieved in 505 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 2: the end. We got a lot to talk about, Luke. 506 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 2: Whether it's usef Zilal, Edmund Shabazian, Gabrielle Bone, Feme, you 507 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 2: can add whoever else into the blank. Let me ask 508 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: you this question. Which UFC undercard fighter on Saturday made 509 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: the biggest leap with his or her performance? Fill in 510 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: the blank here, Luke, which fighter is it? 511 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: Bro I'm halfway tempted to say Angela Hill. I'm halfway 512 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: tempted because what she's doing, you know, having been up 513 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: and down for so long, when she hasn't she had. 514 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: I think going into the fight a seventeen to twelve record, 515 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: I guess what is now eighteen and twelve? You know 516 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: she was getting kind of close to five hundred over 517 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: there and over the age of forty. That's just insane. 518 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: And she still guts out a win. That's very remarkable. 519 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: And listen and fourteen, now, luke to cut you off. 520 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: Eighteen wins fourteen. 521 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: You look at certain databases to the point being is 522 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: she's close to five hundred. But you get the idea. 523 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: But you know, as cliche of an answer as it is, 524 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: we see the answer has to be used of as 525 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: a wall. Now, it's not a performance that I think 526 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: could have been as good as it maybe even should 527 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: have been. It fell a little bit short in that regard, 528 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,239 Speaker 1: but in terms of what he proved, and then when 529 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: you look at like the road ahead and where he's 530 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: at in terms of his age and maturation, it's got 531 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: to be as a law, it's not just that he 532 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: got a winner for Calvin Cator, which is a big 533 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: deal by itself, but it was kind of how he 534 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: did it. Now, that third round less than inspiring. However, 535 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: this is what I wanted to point out he didn't 536 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: do a ton of amazing crazy techniques and strategies you've 537 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: never heard of. He didn't, you know, he wasn't going 538 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: some esoteric submissions or something like that. Really that had 539 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: nothing to do with how we fought. Instead, what it 540 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: looked like he had to MEBC was an understanding of 541 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: how important footwork and movement was and had the ability 542 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: to execute. But more than that, his command of range, 543 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: both offensively and defensively looked to me very natural. He 544 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: naturally was able to look with very minimal effort to 545 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: find exactly where the range was, where he could score, 546 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: the circumstances where he could score, and then how to 547 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: be on your bike in a very strategy way the 548 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: rest of that time. Mind you, they're in that little 549 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: ass cage in the apex. It's not a big cave 550 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: to move around in, and he was still very very 551 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: capable of avoiding again for the vast majority of that 552 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: fight really anything Cater wanted to do, giving him to significant, 553 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: single digit significant strikes in round one and two, and 554 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: then popping him with that jab being on the go, 555 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: fainting him backwards, landing the leg kick when he needed to, 556 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: and it became effortless. These are not complex weapons by themselves, 557 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: but the ability to manage range in the way that 558 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: he did, with the effortlessness that went into that, and 559 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: he's only what I think, twenty eight years old, That 560 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: to me is the thing that I look at and 561 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you can build on that. You can 562 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: do something very special with that. To me, while there 563 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: are questions and some issues, Yusuf's the law showing that 564 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: against Calvin Cator makes it for me. He's the biggest 565 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: standout not named Jared Kennonyer on this car. 566 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: I mean, look the Moroccan devil. Seven wins in a 567 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 2: row after a two to two in one start to 568 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: kick off his UFC career, I'm certainly much more positive, 569 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: even with him running running in the wrong direction around 570 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 2: three as Calvin Cater tried to recreate this as a 571 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: beat fight and tried to really rally with some big offense. 572 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 2: Did I love that from Usef There? No, but the 573 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: totality of the seven wins. He's got a quirky personality, 574 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: a quirky style. He's not going to be easy to 575 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: deal with. But the other half of m a Twitter 576 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 2: Luke not necessarily the half that you know would love 577 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: a pre meth fishing trip, but they didn't really seem 578 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: to love this. Let's show a meme that might sum 579 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: it up. This was supposedly usef Solal training for the fight. 580 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: Luke running backwards on the treadmill. Is that gonna fly 581 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: at the next level Because you win seven in a 582 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: row in this crowded division, you're ready for the next level. 583 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: That's not enough to win a title in this way class. 584 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: And I'm not even sure it's enough to get a 585 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: title fight, right, I mean, after this it starts to 586 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: get real tough. So what you say, I mean, first 587 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: of all, that meme is just fucking ludicrous. I'm just 588 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: gonna say it out loud, like if you didn't enjoy 589 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: what Zilal did, that's a personal matter. I can't argue 590 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: against it. You know, people like what they're gonna like. 591 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: Some people liked, you know, most people like obviously action, 592 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, that's not a crazy thing. But his footwork 593 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: and his defensive movement, which by the way, bled into 594 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: his offensive skill. This is very good work that he did. 595 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: If you can't appreciate that, I would I would ask 596 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: that you do some reflecting on why that is. Again, 597 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: not to say you had to love the especially that 598 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: third round. You didn't have to love that, but like saying, 599 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: this guy is a track star and he's just running 600 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: the whole time when he's pulling Cater into his punches, 601 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: getting away from him. Cater can't do shit to him 602 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: while he's being landed on a nearly a two to 603 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: one clip. I mean, get the fuck out of here. 604 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: That's complete ludicrous. However, However, if you're gonna fight guys 605 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: like Yeahya Rodriguez, if you're gonna fight guys like Josh Emmittt, 606 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: if you're gonna fight guys like even Brian Ortega, and 607 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: especially now Max has moved up, so there's a little 608 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: bit less a threat there. Who knows how much longer 609 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: Vulk's going. I mean, you think you can do that 610 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: with Vulcan win can get the I mean that's just 611 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: I mean that you can't, sir. It's absurd and definitely 612 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: I know they already thought Eliot Taporia at when they 613 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: were both at a much more junior stage of their career. 614 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: You try that against him, you're gonna wake up looking 615 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: at the lights. So it was to me people want 616 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: to make it all or nothing. 617 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 8: B see. 618 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: Oh, the third round sucked. He was on his bike 619 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: for the majority of the time. Therefore, I felt less 620 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: impressed and it's just not the reality. Third round. Yes, 621 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: he took his foot off the gas, full criticism warranted, 622 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: But for the vast majority of that fight, his footwork 623 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: was excellent. It was good defensively, it was good offensively. 624 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: The two blended into each other. And the natural command 625 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: of range. There are guys who've been fighting for twenty 626 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: years who can't do that. He had at the age 627 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: twenty eight, almost effortlessly. That is a very very important 628 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: mark of skill. 629 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: I love his unique style. I love when people have 630 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: styles that are just different, that are really hard to 631 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: figure out and get the advantage of. I'm all for it, 632 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: except for what we saw in that third round. But Luke, 633 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: you do remember that fight. I think it was GSP 634 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: BJ part two and GSP covered himself in ky jelly 635 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: and canola oil in the locker room beforehand. Here is 636 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: Yusef Zilal talking about a somewhat slippery Calvin Cat. So 637 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: what was the game plan for him going in there tonight? Bro? 638 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 9: This is the crazy part is we worked with a 639 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 9: lot of grappling. 640 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 10: A shit you not. 641 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 9: I felt like there's vast lean all over his legs. 642 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 9: I swear to god, it was the most slipperiest guy 643 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 9: I've ever seen in my life. And I felt like, 644 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 9: I'm not trying to be that guy. They'd be like, oh, this, this, 645 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 9: this and this and that, but man, that was that 646 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 9: was suspicious. 647 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: Bro. 648 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 9: I'm like, alright, bro, much more so than just normal 649 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 9: sweat one hundred percent. Nobody slides like that that quick, 650 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 9: No way. I fought a lot of good guys, Jack 651 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 9: Shore and all those guys, and I felt, when you're 652 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 9: dry and all that stuff, there's no way. And it 653 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 9: is what it is. It's you can cheat the sport. 654 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 9: You can do whatever you want. At the end of 655 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 9: the day is I'm doing me and that's what's kind 656 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 9: of getting me to the top. 657 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: Now, look, if we just get some TSA agents to 658 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: the Harley Davidson prep point, we won't have these issues 659 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: at all, because they they've put their hand inside my 660 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: package before. I'm not kidding. Male and female, did that 661 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: joke offend you or are you frozen? 662 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: Can you see me? 663 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: Oh? I see you? Now go ahead, Luke, You're back 664 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: on luke your cooler, you're on the air. 665 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: There we go. Can you see me? 666 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: I can see you? Just five Yes, there you are, OK. 667 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: Got that McDonald. 668 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what that was. Got the McDonald's wife. 669 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing my best. It would be surprising to me 670 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: if Cater was greasing. But at the same time, it's like, 671 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's really above cheating in MMA. I 672 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: want to be clear, I'm not accusing him of that. 673 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what. Who the hell knows? Who the 674 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: hell knows? I remember, you know, Nate Mark Parton, who's 675 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: the more pel Harras had a whole thing about, you know, 676 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: grease saying and this has been a constant thing that 677 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: people bring up time to time. I don't really know. 678 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: But in the end, even if it was true, it 679 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily matter, right, And so maybe, you know, I 680 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: don't know what to say to these dude, these guys, 681 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: these guys like accuse each other of the most heinous 682 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: crimes in MMA without necessarily providing full evidence. I mean, 683 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: he's giving a testimonial about it, and maybe he's telling 684 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: the truth, But like Calvin Cater seems like a guy 685 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: who's like done everything by the book up to this point. 686 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: So unless you feel strongly about it, I don't really 687 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: know what to make of that. 688 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,959 Speaker 2: No, I don't feel strongly about it. Zilall did have 689 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: positive to say about Cater, who I think deserves Look, 690 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,719 Speaker 2: he makes fights fun. I know he's lost more than 691 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 2: he's one of late. He tried like hell in the 692 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: third round. He's always got a great chin. Here's the 693 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: Lall putting some flowers on him. You know, how was 694 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 2: his power out there? Hey? 695 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 9: That fucker, bro. I don't what they fucking drink in Boston. Bro, 696 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 9: God damn man, he got that knows like, guys kept 697 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 9: hitting it. I was like, Coach, he's not moving, Bro, 698 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 9: know he's not moving, Bro. 699 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: But uh yeah, those Methoon Massachusetts people are just different there. 700 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 2: But shout out to New England zone Calvin kater Luke. 701 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: I got a Maya kulplay here on Edmund Schabazi and 702 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 2: I basically called him a self implosion problem leading into 703 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: this episode. Now, look, I want to acknowledge that he's 704 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 2: not fighting elite guys a comeback fight coming off the loss. 705 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 2: He took on Dylan Bubbko, who has now lost three 706 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 2: in a row since winning on Dana Whit's Contender series. 707 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: But Shabazi and looks different, he sounds different. I know 708 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: he's always going to be an explosive first round striker, 709 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: so that right cross, that beautiful knockout, it is what 710 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: it is. But I'm seeing a bigger frame. You heard 711 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 2: him in the post fight interview talk about being a father, 712 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: how much that's maturing him. And now you add in 713 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: the Eric Nixon relationship in the corner. Is it me, 714 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 2: Luke or did Shabazian show us on Saturday that there's 715 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 2: still time for him to turn a corner and maybe 716 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 2: build up more defense in more of a chin and 717 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: more resolve. I guess I'm trying to say to not 718 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 2: be so implosive. 719 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: In the right hands, a damaged fighter can still be rescued. 720 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: I think the team at Jackson's, for example, with Aaron Pico, 721 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: did exactly that. How far he goes still remains to 722 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: be seen, and you know what he could have been 723 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: without all of that damage up front remains also a 724 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: big question mark. In this particular case, I think it's 725 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: kind of similar, not exactly the same, but kind of similar, 726 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: where Shabazi and I think absolutely can be more than 727 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: what he showed. And I don't mean like the flashes 728 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: of like, oh he beat Brat Tavares quickly. I don't 729 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: mean that. I mean like, again, what what what what 730 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: Gared Cannonier showed rescuing himself not? You know, things get 731 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: tough and then you fight back and win. There's a 732 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 1: lot of corners that could be turned in that regard. 733 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you just do have to 734 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: have managed expectations because you know, some of that stuff, 735 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: A lot of that stuff can be beaten out. A 736 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: lot of it can be beaten out. I don't think 737 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: all of it can. You have to kind of just 738 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 1: reconcile with that. 739 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 2: Well, ever since he left Taverdian and Ronda Luke, things 740 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 2: have gotten worse and now they're getting better. So good 741 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: to see. But speaking of Armenian on Armenian love, did 742 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: you see the Hulk arm in Saruki and post fight 743 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 2: get up on him? Check this out, Luke. That had 744 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 2: to make you feel something deep inside. 745 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 1: Right, you know, Listen, I've never been to Armenia. Just 746 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: my mom is always Armenian. So I don't know what 747 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: to say, except I don't know what to say. I 748 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: don't know what to say. 749 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 2: But all right, okay, we're gonna see. We're gonna need 750 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 2: to see more from Edmund Schabazim. But this was a 751 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 2: very strong step in the right direction. I'm cheering for him. 752 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 2: He's fun to watch, he's offensively skilled. Let's see if 753 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 2: he can. 754 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: Put him again on what one thing if I made 755 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: very quickly be seen. Did he do anything this time 756 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: he hasn't done before. 757 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: No, that that's why I said, Look, you got to 758 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 2: understand the opponent level, and you have to understand that 759 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: he could deliver a knockout whether he's broken or not. 760 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: But dude, the frame looked different, the mentality looked different. 761 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 2: I can feel that there's positive changes there. I don't 762 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: know if it fixes him though. I don't know if 763 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 2: he's fixed. I don't know if this is just a 764 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 2: one night reprieve, but something. I don't know. It just 765 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 2: felt I felt better for him watching that. I don't know. 766 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if your WiFi is even there, Luke, 767 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 2: this is turning into a Brian Campbell Live ramble. But 768 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 2: you know I can deliver here. Anybody need any advice? 769 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 2: What the hell's going on? Luke? Are you still there? Luke? Thomas. 770 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 3: Oh, he's back and it's gonna come back. 771 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sorry, guys, I'm on the fastest WiFi that 772 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: I have. I don't know what to say. 773 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 5: You're good, Luke, it's just going through hiccups. 774 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: It's good. 775 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 2: Now, you're good. You're good, Luke, Let's move the show along. 776 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 2: I got to shout out a welterweight, Gabrielle boone Feme, 777 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 2: who easily could have been the answer to this question. 778 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 2: In my opinion. It was certainly before his brother Ishmael 779 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 2: would lose on the main card due to doctor stoppage 780 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: in the first round. But Luke, when we saw Gabrielle 781 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 2: bone Feme on the undercard and saw him in there 782 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: against a red hot Chaos Williams, the athleticism jumps off 783 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 2: the charts, the technique on the ground. He choked out 784 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 2: Chaos Williams, who was five and one in his last 785 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 2: six unconscious in round two via Bravo choke. Twenty seven 786 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 2: years old, four and one in the UFC. Should we 787 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 2: take him seriously in the welterweight rankings because he looked 788 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 2: like he fixed the glitch in this way. 789 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: This was restorative. I mean, I think there's still a 790 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: lot left to go. It's one of these things like 791 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: these guys when they get back, they end up getting 792 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: back by doing things that you kind of thought they 793 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: could have done before anyway, similar to like Shabazi and 794 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: in his fight, and this to me was kind of 795 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: like that, maybe a little bit tougher. Actually I'm not 796 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: gonna say it's exactly the same thing, a little bit tougher. 797 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: So it was a good it was great, It was 798 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: very good for him. He performed ably. The finish was nasty. 799 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean, dude, like, I don't know if we have it, 800 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: but the face that Chaos Williams was making after he 801 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: got put to sleep was like, honestly kind of concerning. 802 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: It looked like he was having almost like a seizure 803 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: or something. So this was all very very clinical for 804 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: the most part, devastating. Certainly in the end he did 805 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: a great job. But at the same time, it's like, 806 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: that's not that, that's not the threshold that we thought 807 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: you would have trouble with before. You've got to prove 808 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: something about that and that part hasn't been done. So 809 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: very good performance, but let's escalate. See where we are 810 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: then then we'll get to be. 811 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: Rand and I mentioned on the main car they're the lightweight. 812 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 2: Ismail bon Fime came up empty against Nazim Sodakov, but 813 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 2: he was in that fight. It looked like he had 814 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 2: more fight in him. It was kind of suddenly just 815 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 2: stopped and that was it. There may have been a 816 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 2: language barrier issue on the communication there as well, But look, 817 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: I hope both bonfing brothers are going to bounce back 818 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: here because they make fun fights. They're aggressive. His shit. 819 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 2: We've seen videos of them sparing each other at full speed. Also, 820 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: you mentioned Angela Hill at age forty, who went on 821 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 2: there on the undercard against Kaitlyn Zuza SUSA picks up 822 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 2: a split decision Luke. Between twenty twenty and twenty twenty two, 823 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 2: Angela Hill lost five of six fights. Since then, she 824 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 2: has won five of her last seven. She's forty years old, 825 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 2: she's eighteen and fourteen, and even Jared Cannonier had to 826 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 2: shout her out after the fight. 827 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 8: Angela Hill was in here earlier and she mentioned her 828 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 8: support for you and with both of your victories. 829 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 4: Forty old fighters went to and oh to night. She 830 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 4: posted that on her social media. So how's it like 831 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 4: holding it for you? 832 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 7: Guys, are we holding it down? You know what they say, 833 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 7: black don't crack. She said, Hey, it's a it's a 834 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 7: universal saying. So uh, I guess we showed we showed 835 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 7: it improved, right, we showed it improved anyway, reproof. But yes, 836 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 7: shout out to Angela. Angela is awesome. Man, She's hilarious. 837 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 7: I think she is. Uh, She's definitely should be a 838 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 7: UFC Hall of Famer for all that, for all of 839 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 7: her accolades within the company. You know, her social media, 840 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 7: her analysis, and the amazing fights that she's put on. 841 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 7: And thank you again for those kind words and acknowledgment Angela. 842 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 4: Congratulations on your fight too. 843 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 2: Luke, you heard it right there, Black don't crack. I 844 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 2: called her the Jim Miller of women's m m A. 845 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to go as far 846 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 2: as Cannon here putting her in the Hall of Fame, 847 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,240 Speaker 2: But shout out to Hill for being always a positive personality, 848 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 2: someone that adds a lot to the game. But she's 849 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 2: not done yet. And I got to give her a 850 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 2: lot of credit, Luke, because I've counted her out a 851 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 2: few times, and longevity does matter, the ability to reinvent 852 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 2: yourself does matter. This is fun to see. 853 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: In the women's side, there's simply no question. I kind 854 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: of counted her out as well, but she just keeps training, 855 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: keeps getting better, keeps learning, keeps improving, stays in good shape, 856 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: keeps applying herself. And you're right, the Jim Miller think 857 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: is probably the better way to look at it. Like, 858 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, she's beating relevant fighters or whatever. I don't 859 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: know if she's going to get to the title anytime 860 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: soon or maybe ever, but you know, she's not fighting 861 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: bullshit people. She's fighting good fighters that they are putting 862 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: in front of her. And as I mentioned, like I can, 863 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: she's a martial artist. That's what she is WEC a 864 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: martial artist, a continuous level of self improvement, self education, 865 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: and look at the results. As a consequence, you get 866 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: wins like that, very very very impressive which she has 867 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: put together. The Hall of Fame part is a little strong, 868 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: like Angela a lot. That's a little strong. However, however, 869 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: commendation certainly in order on this one morning. 870 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 2: Another combination I'd like to shout out to you, Luke 871 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 2: is from the good people at Cuervo. 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It is. 888 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a nice little it's a nice little late 889 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 2: night sipper too. 890 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 1: Luke, if you get down with that, I don't know, if. 891 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 2: You're like Kane Velaskiz, you're more of a shooter. But 892 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 2: that you know, I can put that joke anywhere. All right, 893 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 2: let's go to topic number three. Hey, it's the weekend 894 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 2: boxing recap and heck yeah, Friday Night top Rank on ESPN. 895 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 2: It took place in the theater at Madison Square Garden 896 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 2: and a Valentine's Day treat As twenty five year old 897 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 2: Keyshawn Davis already looked at as a rising star in 898 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 2: this sport, well, he climbed his first mountain. If you 899 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,399 Speaker 2: followed the show in the past six months, you knew 900 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 2: how good we thought Keishawn Davis was. But after his 901 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 2: fourth round demolition a WBO lightweight champion Dennis Barinchik on 902 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 2: Friday Night, Luke, We're gonna talk to Keishaan soon. But 903 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,240 Speaker 2: this was only his thirteenth pro fight and he dominated 904 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 2: a decorated, battle tested champion. How big of a future 905 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 2: does the businessman have? 906 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: Dude, he didn't just beat Brinschick. He told him. He 907 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: told him. It was a demolition. Dude. Keishawn Davis is 908 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: the next big star in American boxing. That's what he is. 909 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,439 Speaker 1: He's the next big star in American boxing. And there'd 910 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: be some other ones too. Of course, you know, right 911 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 1: on his heels, Abdullah Mason. You we'll see what happens 912 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: with what's his name, Richie Torres, the heavyweight they got 913 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 1: out of there at top RANKBC. Yeah. I mean there's 914 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: a few of these guys on the way. Keishan Davis 915 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: is leading the pack. He is the next big American 916 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: star in boxing. And if he doesn't become one, somebody 917 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: messed up because he's got everything you could possibly want 918 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: to get there. He is obviously extremely skilled. You can 919 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 1: see thumbs up there. He's extremely skilled. He is very athletic, 920 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,280 Speaker 1: no question about that. BC. He's mean and he's precise. 921 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,240 Speaker 1: And here's what I really want to point out. Obviously 922 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: he got dropped Brynschick did in the third round to 923 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: the body, which by itselfless tremendous. He came in Barnschick 924 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: duck down thinking was going to be a hook to 925 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: the head, and he just ate him up to the 926 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: liver with inside foot position. But be seeing it's the 927 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: final sequence that really stands out to me. And why 928 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: do I say that not only does he hit him 929 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: not just with the left hand hand to the liver, 930 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: he hits them with the right. Then the left hand 931 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,479 Speaker 1: or right to the body, left hand to the liver. 932 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: But he is right on top of these guys are 933 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 1: right on top of each other in that sequence, and 934 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: Barnchick can't lay egg glove on him, can't do anything. Meanwhile, 935 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: you see right there in the eye of the hurricane 936 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: Davis block, block, roll and then stab that shot to 937 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: the body, finish him off inside round four. Dude, he 938 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 1: had his eyes open. You could see him looking everywhere 939 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 1: he needed to go. He was a step ahead, he 940 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: was quicker. He was absolutely brutal in his application of it. 941 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: And to be in the mouth of the lion and 942 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: never have any teeth marks on you like that against 943 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: a guy who you mentioned in Brinschick, you know, maybe 944 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: something of a limited fighter, but certainly battle tested him, 945 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: very very tough and has fought very good guys to 946 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: just get chewed up like that so quickly. Keishaan Davis 947 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: is the next big star in American boxing. And if 948 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, I'll eat my hat. That guy is 949 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: destined for pay per view stardom. 950 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 2: And look, we were a little late to picking up 951 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 2: his momentum. And I certainly thought when he sold out 952 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 2: that Arena in Norfolk against Gustavo Lemos and handled him 953 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 2: like that that It's like, okay, we got to really 954 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 2: wake up, dude. This was such a further leap from that, 955 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 2: the poise he showed. I think, Look, he's got almost 956 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 2: genius IQ level in there. You can see the way 957 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 2: he diagnoses his opponents. Look not just at the way 958 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 2: he finished Brunchick to the body, but that left took 959 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 2: in round three to the body where he like lunged 960 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,720 Speaker 2: to his left and duck down low, basically just weaving 961 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 2: in and out like water there to drop Burnchick. He's 962 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 2: a brilliant fighter, he truly is. And he's just twenty five. 963 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 2: And you want to talk about iron sharpening iron. He's 964 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 2: trained by Brian bowmckmcintyre. He's got Terrence Crawford as a mentor. 965 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 2: He's got Shakher Stevenson, the fellow lightweight titleist as a mentor. 966 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 2: You can see how much is rubbing off. You can 967 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 2: see the natural talent there. I didn't fully realize that 968 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 2: he was this ready, this early, this close to being 969 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 2: a truly breakout star. But I don't see how you 970 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 2: can say anything but that after Friday night's performance. I mean, 971 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 2: one thing I noticed, Luke. Did you see he seemed 972 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,919 Speaker 2: to be a lot bigger physically than even the last 973 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 2: time we saw him in terms of muscle mass. I 974 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 2: didn't really realize until I saw him kind of flexing 975 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 2: and celebrating. You see that, you see the back muscles, 976 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 2: you see everything there. Dude, He's gonna one day be 977 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 2: a big welterwey who can punch. And that's the thing. 978 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 2: It's like, you look at him, you think about him, 979 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, he's a slick fighter who's maybe got 980 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 2: a little bit of pop. No, he's a complete fighter 981 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 2: and he's gonna destroy some people down the road. Uh 982 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 2: this I don't know, dude. This was like as important 983 00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 2: as impressive a breakthrough win as I've seen. 984 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 1: While I would agree with just about all of that, 985 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: I think I I I mean, you asked me all 986 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: about the MMA car becauseho I thought stood out, But 987 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: like nobody did exactly this not granted, a different sport, 988 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: different setup, different you know, it's not apples to apples. 989 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: But the biggest guy, the guy who took the biggest 990 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 1: leap over the weekend was Keyshawn Davis. And to you 991 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: see I'm with you. I was a little bit slow 992 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 1: to the upkeep on this one too. I began to 993 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: really notice it more recently, certainly that Norfolk homecoming he 994 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: had was a big deal and that kind of changed things. 995 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: But that was more about like, oh, what's he gonna 996 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: do as a you know, can this guy sell tickets 997 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: so people gonna show up to see him? What kind 998 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: of star potential does he have? And that was pretty 999 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 1: good right there, building up in his home market. But this, 1000 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 1: to me, would dude, like this was child's play for him, 1001 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: child's play. He looked completely at ease. Dude. It looked 1002 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: like a magician doing tricks, you know what I mean. 1003 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 1: Like he wasn't having to battle through and then find openings. 1004 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 1: He was just you know that, there's that scene in 1005 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,479 Speaker 1: The Matrix where Neo finally understands who he is and 1006 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: Smith comes running down the hall at him, and he 1007 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: just uses the one arm, you know what I'm talking about. 1008 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: He uses the one arm to block all of his punches. 1009 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: It felt like that. It felt like that, It felt 1010 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: like this guy was like like miles ahead and he's 1011 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: only twenty, as you mentioned, twenty five years old, And 1012 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,439 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought the physicality part too, because 1013 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure about his physicality either. BC. He hasn't 1014 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: even grown into his full body yet. He still probably 1015 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 1: has a couple more years of training to really fill out, 1016 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: maybe three more even depending on how you. 1017 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 2: See how he was throwing burnchick. Anytime there'd be a clinch, 1018 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 2: he was throwing back. I mean he was like physically 1019 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 2: he was fighting almost in a Bud Crawford way, where 1020 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,760 Speaker 2: every time there's contact you can see who the stronger 1021 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 2: guy is instantly. 1022 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: When when Bud fought Eryl Spence, I think Errol was 1023 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: again prior to that fight anyway. Obviously, since then, who 1024 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: knows what he is. But prior to that fight, he 1025 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 1: was a bulldozer. He would just ram through everybody who 1026 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: stood in his way. And then when Bud went up 1027 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: against him, he would lean his shoulder into him and 1028 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,280 Speaker 1: you would watch Erroll go flying off of his balance. 1029 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 1: You were like, how is that possible, dude. The fact 1030 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,879 Speaker 1: that Terrence Crawford is in this guy's corner and as 1031 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,439 Speaker 1: a mentor and they've trained together, obviously you can see 1032 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 1: it rub off on him again. It's the meanness. But 1033 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: these guys like these Terrence Crawford guys, and Shakr's not 1034 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 1: quite like this because he doesn't have the same kind 1035 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 1: of popper meanness, but like like Terrence, it's a mastery 1036 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: of the science of boxing with just this you know, 1037 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: absolutely kill or be killed mentality. And you know when 1038 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 1: you combine science with psychopath athletic, you know, mindset, you 1039 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: get these kinds of results where these guys are just 1040 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: absolutely murdering your opponents but physically dominating over them and 1041 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: then doing it in the stylish, almost breezy kind of way. Man, 1042 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see the next few years of 1043 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: Keyshawn Davis's career because it appears to be extremely bright. 1044 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll be with us in just a few minutes, 1045 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 2: but I do want to play one quick SoundBite that 1046 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,399 Speaker 2: he had after the fight, because he brought so much 1047 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,439 Speaker 2: joy to the table, and to hear the pre fight 1048 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 2: interviews that Top Ring played on the broadcast, and to 1049 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 2: hear everything he's been through mentally, family issues, growing up, 1050 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 2: all of that. Like, it's remarkable to see him when 1051 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 2: he climbs the mountain with be this joyful to be 1052 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 2: a advocate publicly for mental health. I couldn't be more 1053 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,280 Speaker 2: into it. Actually, I believe we have him right now, 1054 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 2: so we can go right to key Shaan Davis, the 1055 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 2: businessman who certainly handled his business on Friday night. Keyshawn, 1056 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 2: we are talking you up over here like the next 1057 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 2: big thing in the sport, and you earned every bit 1058 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,280 Speaker 2: of it. I talked about the joy that you showed 1059 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 2: in the ring Friday night. What did this moment mean 1060 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:43,359 Speaker 2: to you? 1061 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 5: Uh? 1062 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 8: I mean a lot, honestly, Man, I'm a world champion, 1063 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 8: you know, like a lot of people, a lot of 1064 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 8: fighters can't say that. A lot of people, you know, 1065 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 8: work hard to get here, it still can't accomplish it. 1066 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 8: So I definitely got to be grateful that God gave 1067 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 8: it his victory in an amazing fashion. 1068 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,399 Speaker 2: Honest Look, there was that to negative during fight week 1069 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 2: when the box full of racism was dropped outside your door, 1070 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 2: and then that's not even a story anymore. But I'm 1071 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 2: interested did that do anything to you mentally? Because I 1072 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 2: predicted that it would only fuel you. There's there's the 1073 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 2: rare fighter that can take that stuff and use it 1074 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 2: as fuel. How were you doing dealing with that heading 1075 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:20,479 Speaker 2: into the fight. 1076 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 8: Well, I know, I know the great ones form under 1077 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,839 Speaker 8: any circumstances. I always tell y'all each fight, I'm gonna 1078 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 8: show you all how great I am. 1079 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 3: God don't know. 1080 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 1: I know. 1081 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 8: That's the ways to a show how great I am. 1082 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 1: Kishan, we were just talking about this twenty five years 1083 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: of age and look like you're really starting to like 1084 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,880 Speaker 1: fill out and becomes like you're pushing Brenchick around a 1085 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,320 Speaker 1: little bit. How much weight have you put on? I 1086 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: should say how much muscle have you put on the 1087 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 1: last couple of years? And honestly, when you think about 1088 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 1: the next two or three years, have you thought about 1089 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: how much bigger you're going to get in what weight 1090 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: classes that might mean for you. 1091 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,399 Speaker 8: I don't really know, like the number of how much 1092 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 8: muscle I put on. I just know I put on muscles. 1093 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 8: I'm twenty five, Like your bone is starting to be 1094 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 8: different and stuff like that. So of course, like I'm 1095 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 8: gonna start hitting my my peak or my prime in 1096 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 8: terms of physicality, you know, But I still got a 1097 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 8: lot more to go to learn inside the ring, so 1098 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,240 Speaker 8: I'm gonna continue getting better and better. But one thirty 1099 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 8: five is still easy for me to make, you know, 1100 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 8: Wednesday I was one thirty four point two and I 1101 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 8: drunk me some coconut whatever before on. 1102 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 3: A scale, you know what I'm saying. 1103 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,919 Speaker 8: So I take that in consideration, Like, dang, I'm still 1104 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 8: making this making this weight like fairly easy. 1105 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see my face. 1106 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 8: I don't look trained or I don't look not energized 1107 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 8: when he pushed me. When he pushed me off the stage, 1108 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 8: I was trying to get on his ass. It's not 1109 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 8: like I had no energy to do all that extra 1110 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 8: stuff too, you know. So I'm very comfortable at one 1111 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 8: thirty five. Surprisingly how big I am. So I'm gonna 1112 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 8: be here for some time. 1113 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 1: I hate to bring it up away, just kind of 1114 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: have to close the book on this. Did Was it 1115 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 1: ever determined for a fact that Tayo fem Lopez was 1116 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 1: the one who sent the what do you want to 1117 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 1: call it? The racist gift box? Right? 1118 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 8: Oh, it's no facts, there's no care. I ain't go 1119 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 8: back and look at the cameras or I ain't. Honestly, man, 1120 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 8: I believe in God, I believe in a higher power man. 1121 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,239 Speaker 3: Whoever did that, they did it, and it is what 1122 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 3: it is. 1123 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 8: Either it was beraching them team or it was TiO. 1124 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,919 Speaker 8: I don't think it's Beachingham team. I literally just dap 1125 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 8: his team up right now. They're respectful people, you know 1126 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 8: what I'm saying. So I really think it was Tia Femo. 1127 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 8: I don't know how he got my room number and 1128 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,839 Speaker 8: stuff like that. I just know how to go about 1129 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 8: moving forward so that won't happen again. 1130 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, very very fair point to sum that up. I 1131 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 2: want to talk about this fight because we have a 1132 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 2: lot of respect for Navarette, I think one of the 1133 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 2: more un heralded fighters in this game, and Barnschik handled 1134 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 2: him breakthrough victory. I think some people were at least 1135 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,439 Speaker 2: expecting this would have been more of a competitive test 1136 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 2: that you would have been tested in certain categories. You 1137 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 2: literally bodied him up and made it look easy. We 1138 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 2: could see the machine in your brain going as you're 1139 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 2: picking up our angles. Well, are you surprised at all 1140 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 2: at how easy against this you know, star amateur with 1141 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 2: the reputation from that Ukrainian team that he has, that 1142 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 2: he had nothing for you on Friday. 1143 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,320 Speaker 8: Honestly, no, I wasn't surprised at all. I wasn't surprised 1144 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 8: at all All week. I was saying I'm a tet 1145 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 8: your body all week I'm just saying in a press 1146 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,919 Speaker 8: conference I was putting at him. I would say'm gonna 1147 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 8: f you up. I knew what I was gonna do 1148 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 8: to him. What people don't give me credit for it's 1149 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 8: my defense. I really have great defense, and I know 1150 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 8: that about myself. So I'm knowing if a guy can't 1151 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 8: hit you, then how is he gonna win? 1152 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 2: And didn't. 1153 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 3: I'm naturally aggressive. 1154 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 8: I like to fight, so I honestly just not to 1155 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 8: too my own horn, bro, But it took work for 1156 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 8: me to work on my defense. It took time for 1157 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 8: me to actually get my defense to this point. I 1158 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,800 Speaker 8: just feel like I got the whole package. 1159 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: Man. 1160 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 8: I got defense, I got offense, I got power, I 1161 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,359 Speaker 8: got speed, I got the wheel to win. I got 1162 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 8: hard I'm smart in there. I could see a punch 1163 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,720 Speaker 8: before he even throw a punch, you know what I'm saying. 1164 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,920 Speaker 8: So I just feel like I'm the full package, and 1165 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 8: y'all just gonna continue to see how great I really am. 1166 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 2: Well, it look like you were going for that knockout 1167 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 2: maybe as early as the second round, and Bowmack was like, 1168 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 2: just be patient. He's almost gotta hold your back a 1169 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, were you thinking that was the 1170 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 2: moment to go for it. 1171 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 8: Once I forgot what round it was. But once I 1172 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 8: see his nose started leaking. Because his nose started leaking, 1173 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 8: I think like in the second round, so you might 1174 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 8: be right. Once I see his nose started leaking, I'm like, okay, 1175 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 8: it's any time now my punches are affecting him. You know. 1176 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 8: So Bomack, me and Bomack got such a chemistry, man, 1177 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 8: like he know when they hold me back and he 1178 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 8: know when it let me go. So anything that he say, 1179 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 8: I'm gonna definitely listen to, you know, but sometimes he 1180 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 8: could be wrong, so we'll be we'll be going back 1181 00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 8: and forth, definitely, like listen to. 1182 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: Can we talk if I may be serial quickly? Can 1183 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: we talk about the body shots? And you mentioned your defense. 1184 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 1: We were just talking about this on the show. If 1185 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 1: you look at the final sequence in round four, right 1186 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 1: he you're right up on him and you're catching all 1187 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: of these shots and then digging to the body right 1188 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: after that. Did you know the body was going to 1189 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 1: be there or was that a read? In real time? 1190 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 8: I knew the body was gonna be there, but specifically 1191 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 8: in that moment, that was just a reaction, and you know, 1192 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 8: you work on things in camp to make them natural reactions, 1193 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 8: and my natural reaction was to block and go straight 1194 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 8: to the body, you know, because that's what we was 1195 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 8: working on for camp, you know. And thank God to 1196 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 8: the B and BT that we had a perfect game 1197 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 8: plan all the time, and the game plan definitely showed 1198 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 8: that night. 1199 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 1: Look and if you if you can, what did what 1200 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: did Bomac say about the victory when it was all 1201 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: over all? 1202 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 3: He keeps saying is dude, I'm so proud of you, dude. 1203 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 8: Everything came from all the things you've been through for 1204 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 8: you to make it here. 1205 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 3: I'm just so proud of you, dude. Keep going, keep going. 1206 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 3: Those words right there, those exact words. 1207 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 2: I love to hear that stuff, Keith Shawnas we look 1208 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 2: at this division right now, we got a full screen 1209 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 2: here of the champions at the moment. I mean, you 1210 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 2: want to talk about Boxing Royalty, WBA, Tank Davis, WBC, 1211 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 2: Shakher Stevenson, the IBF is the legend Vasili Lomachenko, and 1212 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 2: now you with that WBO strap in your opinion, where 1213 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 2: do you fit in right now among these champions in 1214 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 2: this division? 1215 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 8: Well, we all fitting together we are champions. So it's 1216 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 8: not like where I fit in. We all fitting in 1217 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 8: right now. If you look at that list right there, 1218 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 8: you got first of all, keith On Davis. You got cha, 1219 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 8: course Steves, you got Lemichenko. Do you got Javonte Davis? 1220 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 8: It's like, damn, pick your poison? Who would like? 1221 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 2: Whoo? 1222 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 3: Who you wanna fight for this trap? 1223 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 8: Each fight is gonna be twelve round hell or if 1224 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 8: you fight me, you get it knocked out, So you 1225 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 8: better choose wisely. 1226 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You can see the same 1227 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 3: thing about that other Davids. 1228 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. So man, pick your poison 1229 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 8: right now. The one thirty five division is a hot division. 1230 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 8: It's hot and honestly, if you if you really want 1231 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 8: to ask my opinion outside of cha cour Stevenson, I 1232 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 8: want to fight one of those two champions. 1233 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 2: Well, Kishan, let me say it like this. When we 1234 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 2: looked ahead to the start of the new year and 1235 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 2: ranked the fights we most wanted to see, my number 1236 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 2: one was Tank Davis versus a guy you know, well 1237 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 2: Shakers Stevenson. I'm not sure now, no disrespect to chakor 1238 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 2: if I want to sub you in you versus Tank 1239 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 2: is the hot topic on Twitter at the moment after 1240 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 2: this victory. How realistic is that fight for this calendar 1241 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:54,439 Speaker 2: year in your eyes? 1242 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Man? 1243 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 3: You gotta ask him that. Oh, you gotta ask him that. 1244 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 3: It takes to the tango. People. Are everybody heard that 1245 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 3: not knocked? Everybody heard that call out? 1246 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 8: You know, I've been calling this guy out on Twitter, social, 1247 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 8: call him out on ESPN. It takes to the tango, man, 1248 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 8: And I'm not a person that likes to chase after nothing. 1249 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 8: If it's meant for me, then God is God willing, 1250 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 8: he gonna give it to me, you know. 1251 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 3: So I don't want to keep calling this guy out. 1252 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 3: I'm my own champion. 1253 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 8: And at the end of the day, it's a hot 1254 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 8: topic on Twitter because Keshon Davis is a hot topic 1255 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 8: because Keson Davis created his own lane for Keyshawon Davis. 1256 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 8: So I don't need a Javante Davis to make me 1257 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 8: become nothing. All I gotta do is keep doing what 1258 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 8: I'm doing. 1259 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 2: Now. 1260 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 8: If he decides to get in the rig and fight me, 1261 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 8: then oh, pay per view, it's gonna be electrify and fight. 1262 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 8: But it takes to the tango. So I need y'all 1263 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 8: to ask him that question. 1264 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 1: Fair fair enough, by the way. Kind of interesting. You're 1265 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 1: from north You've got Davante from Baltimore, and you got 1266 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Shaker from Newark. All basically East coast guys all killing 1267 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,840 Speaker 1: the one thirty five pound division. Kind of interesting in 1268 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,440 Speaker 1: that way. So let me get your opinion on this 1269 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: if we can. Kishan tell me how Davis versus Lamont 1270 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: Roach goes in about two weeks. 1271 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 8: What you gotta think about Like this, man, when Navarat 1272 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 8: they moved up in foot Baranchick Oh, Navarat, they moved 1273 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 8: up for one thirty to fight a real one to 1274 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 8: thirty five pounder for Errantick Dust to them off east. 1275 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 8: So on a higher level, you got lamont Roach moving 1276 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 8: up fighting a real one to thirty five pounder. 1277 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 3: It typically it typically should be the same, no outcome. 1278 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,920 Speaker 8: Shouts out to lovemont Roach though I know Lamont Roach 1279 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 8: like I know him, I know Tank, but I know 1280 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 8: La mott Roach as well, so I'm not gonna just 1281 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 8: count him out because maybe I'm a little biased. But 1282 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 8: you know, just no one to sport at boxing, man, 1283 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 8: You know, the natural one thirty five pounder should typically 1284 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 8: win that fight. 1285 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 1: And then one more for me if I made Keihan, 1286 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,200 Speaker 1: which is okay, this was February. You already got a 1287 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: world title. Congratulations on that, I mean an amazing, amazing accomplishment. 1288 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 1: But you got the rest of the year. So talk 1289 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: to me. Are we gonna be active this year? You're 1290 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 1: looking for only big fights? Like, how are you thinking 1291 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 1: about the rest of the year ahead. 1292 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 8: Well, first of all, I'm fighting at least two more 1293 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 8: times this year, at least. I'm twenty five, and I 1294 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 8: miss stopping guys. I haven't been going my four rounds. 1295 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,160 Speaker 8: I don't got no cuts on my face, my hands 1296 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 8: not bruised. Though I could go on the ten mile 1297 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 8: run right now. I hit the back like I'm I'm young. 1298 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 8: I'm ready to fight again. 1299 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 3: You know. I only did three four rounds this past week, 1300 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 3: you know, so. 1301 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 8: I'm ready to fight, Like, bring me back out there 1302 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 8: that I can go three more times this year for real. 1303 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 8: But at least I'm gonna go two more times. And 1304 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 8: I definitely want a big name coming in coming into 1305 01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 8: my next fight. Honestly, I really really want to big name. 1306 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 8: I've seen premier boxing champions, you know. PPC No made 1307 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 8: like a little sweet the night that I fought, so 1308 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,760 Speaker 8: I don't know if that was pertaining to Davis or Cruise, 1309 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 8: but either one of those fights I would. 1310 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 2: Love next Wow Pitpull Cruise. That would be something I 1311 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 2: want to close with this, Keishawan, because you give so 1312 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 2: much love to your city and also your family. Your 1313 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 2: two brothers, Kelvin and Keon fought on the same card 1314 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 2: as you. We saw Kean on the undercard on Friday 1315 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 2: in New York, and like you told us in the past, 1316 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 2: he's gonna be a problem in the future. This is 1317 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,439 Speaker 2: what we call it a dB three Davis Brothers three. 1318 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 2: I think that's the acronym you guys got going. Is 1319 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 2: this gonna be a thing where we're gonna see two 1320 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 2: or three of you fight on the same card as 1321 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,959 Speaker 2: much as possible in the future because there's so much 1322 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,919 Speaker 2: talent running through that family right now. 1323 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 8: Oh for sure, bro, Like for sure, man Like, just 1324 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,919 Speaker 8: like you said, Bro, Davis Brothers dB three is three 1325 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 8: of us. You know, I'm the middle brother, my little brother. 1326 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 8: Y'all got the watch this past week six four on 1327 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,040 Speaker 8: forty seven. Kelvin Davis, he fight in March eighth, you know, 1328 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 8: six one, and we all share the same mentality. 1329 01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 3: We all like to fight. 1330 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 8: We all come from the same city, the same mother 1331 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 8: and the same father, the same background. You know, y'all 1332 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 8: see after the fight, how we hugging all we hugging 1333 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 8: each other like this is real. It's not nothing fake 1334 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,280 Speaker 8: when it come to us man. And again, Kean Davis, 1335 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,840 Speaker 8: he he just the boxing world, no Keyan now because 1336 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 8: I've been preaching his name, actually getting to see him. 1337 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 3: Y'all like, Yo, this kid, Nah, he's he's good. He's 1338 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 3: pretty good, you know. 1339 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 8: And then my big brother he fight for intern you know, 1340 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 8: this year and stuff like that. It's not three brothers 1341 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 8: in the sport of boxing that's competing on these high 1342 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 8: levels right now in today's day and never been three 1343 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 8: brothers right now. And I honestly feel like the boxing 1344 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 8: world need to get behind us because we're doing something 1345 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:57,560 Speaker 8: that nobody never seen before and we're living up to 1346 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,560 Speaker 8: pass expectations. 1347 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 2: The future is incredibly right bright for Kishan Davis and company. Kishan, 1348 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 2: thank you for the time, congratulations again on Friday's big win. 1349 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 2: Cannot wait for the future with you. 1350 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 3: Yes, sar, thank you'll, thank you for having me. 1351 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 2: The business man joining us. Uh hell of a victory now, Luke, 1352 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 2: he mentioned it there and we knew the friendship between 1353 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,880 Speaker 2: him and Shaker Stevenson, a title holder in this division. 1354 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,840 Speaker 2: They won't fight each other. You got a uh, you know, 1355 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 2: an Al Joe and Morab type thing going on there. 1356 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,880 Speaker 2: But dude, is there a fight you would like to 1357 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 2: see more for Kishan in the future than Tank Davis? 1358 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 2: I mean I didn't I didn't hate the Pitbull Cruise offering, 1359 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 2: by the way, but what what when you look ahead, 1360 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 2: what's the matchup that would get you excited down the 1361 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 2: road for this kid? 1362 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly the Shakur one too, but I mean 1363 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 1: they're stablemates, so it's not gonna happen probably anytime soon. 1364 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: So it's got to be. I mean, it's like Tank 1365 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 1: seems to have limited time left in the sport. We 1366 01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 1: got to get it against people who can who can 1367 01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 1: thump with him, and it seems like Kishawn is plenty game. 1368 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean there's other ones you could go to, obviously, 1369 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 1: but that is a great opportunity. I mean, if they 1370 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:12,960 Speaker 1: can make that before Tank closes the show, I would 1371 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 1: be delighted. I'll put it. 1372 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that would be such an incredible fight. 1373 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 2: Twenty five years old tank, what has he read about 1374 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 2: thirty right now, right at the absolute mountain top of 1375 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 2: what he has. But we got to see from take 1376 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 2: against Roach. We got to see not only him get 1377 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 2: the win, but see where his head's at after because 1378 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 2: he has been, you know, vocal about a very serious 1379 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 2: thing on his mind, which is he wants to step 1380 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 2: away for a bit to get his head right, to 1381 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 2: remove the trauma of the past that's been following him, 1382 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 2: and we certainly all support that. Also though the guy's 1383 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 2: one of the biggest stars in the sport and you 1384 01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 2: want to see him. So a lot to juggle there, 1385 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 2: but Kishawn broke through and shout out to twenty twenty 1386 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 2: year old excuse me, Abdullah Mason Luke. We love him 1387 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,439 Speaker 2: as a prospect. You've shouted him out. His last fight, 1388 01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 2: he got dropped twice in the first round, but rallied 1389 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 2: back to get a huge ko That was Long Island 1390 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,440 Speaker 2: Luke's fight of the year by the way. He improved 1391 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 2: to seventeen and no on Saturday and he took out 1392 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 2: Manuel Himis, who had just gone ten rounds with Roly 1393 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 2: Romero on that pay per view and Luke he put 1394 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 2: it on him in as as dynamic a young young 1395 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,680 Speaker 2: prospect performance jumping through the screen as you would want 1396 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 2: to see. Dude, this kid is going to be right 1397 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 2: behind Keishawan in terms of getting us to notice him 1398 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 2: sooner rather than later. 1399 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 1: Keishean's a little bit ahead. This is a world title fight. 1400 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,439 Speaker 1: He's obviously doing tremendous things. But as you indicated, like 1401 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 1: Top Rank's got a few things cooking with some of 1402 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,479 Speaker 1: these guys, Dylan Mason probably is going to be, you know, 1403 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 1: behind Keishawn another American star. So like you know, there 1404 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: are some bright spots in American boxing right now. B See, 1405 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 1: He's just we've got to get these guys in big 1406 01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 1: fights and in big in front of big audiences and 1407 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, on home soil as much as humanly possible 1408 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,760 Speaker 1: to really leverage all of this because the talent is there. 1409 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:00,880 Speaker 1: The talent is there. 1410 01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 2: Well, how often do I talk about this new generation 1411 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 2: of young American boxers just want the smoke? Mason is 1412 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,680 Speaker 2: twenty years old. Let's hear from him quickly on what 1413 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:10,799 Speaker 2: might be in his future. 1414 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 3: I said, have one, you know, you got the title 1415 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:13,519 Speaker 3: that he got. 1416 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:17,120 Speaker 7: One, you won a title shot next and that's what 1417 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 7: you're looking for. 1418 01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:18,639 Speaker 3: Oh for sure. 1419 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, whatever comes my way next. 1420 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:21,760 Speaker 3: You know, we still got to work our way up 1421 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 3: there and be relisted. But that comes our way, then 1422 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:24,920 Speaker 3: I'd be ready for it. 1423 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 2: Luke, he wants a title shot next. He's in the 1424 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 2: same division where the champions are Tank, Loma, Shakur and 1425 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 2: Key Sean. This is not bad, not bad, right, not bad. 1426 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 1: It's insane. It's insane. Guy. I hope he can do 1427 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 1: it because he seems like he's got a lot of ability. 1428 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 2: Yes. Also on that undercart, Jared Big Baby Anderson finally 1429 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 2: came back from that knockout lost to Martin mccoley. But 1430 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,640 Speaker 2: when the distance looked kind of flat and uninterested, it 1431 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,160 Speaker 2: was kind of tough to see. I was happy that Ziegers. 1432 01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 1: He looks he looks like BC. He looks like food. 1433 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 1: He looks like food to like anybody who's really good 1434 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,280 Speaker 1: in that division. All these other heavyweights right now, they're 1435 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 1: going to eat him alive. 1436 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 2: You know, something's got to change for him, probably mentally 1437 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 2: in terms of his his want to put in the 1438 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,439 Speaker 2: training and to be in there. Xanders ayas the unbeaten 1439 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:18,959 Speaker 2: junior middleweight dude. He looked good again. He fought Slava Spoemer, 1440 01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 2: the guy trained by Roy Jones Junior, and he brutalized 1441 01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 2: him to the body and scored a late stoppage. There 1442 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,040 Speaker 2: are some haters on there that believe he gets hit 1443 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,720 Speaker 2: too much, Luke, but I'm really watching him closely out 1444 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 2: of Puerto Rico. He's a fun and exciting fighter. But 1445 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 2: you know what was a big story over the weekend 1446 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:38,639 Speaker 2: on his own Arnold Barbosa Junior, the Mexican American, scoring 1447 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 2: a split decision over twelve rounds against Jack Caterall in Manchester, 1448 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,839 Speaker 2: England to pick up the WBO interim strap, which essentially 1449 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,719 Speaker 2: makes him the number one contender for Tao Femo Lopez. 1450 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 2: At one forty, Tao has one hundred and eighty days 1451 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,280 Speaker 2: to make the fight or be stripped. Barbosa has already 1452 01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,600 Speaker 2: said publicly he's willing to unify against Richardson Hitchins if 1453 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 2: that's the case. But let's hear quickly from Barboza first, 1454 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 2: celebrating the win backstage. 1455 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:25,120 Speaker 11: That's my boy, deserve I worked so hard for six years. Good, 1456 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:31,000 Speaker 11: you got an amazing that's fine, bro, congratulations Bro. 1457 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,639 Speaker 2: Now, look, there's too many titles in boxing, and that's 1458 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 2: just a vacant interim strap. But that felt good. That 1459 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,439 Speaker 2: guy's a hard nose, unbeaten boxer who went in there 1460 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 2: on enemy soil and did not get robbed, which was 1461 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:48,639 Speaker 2: great to. 1462 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:52,920 Speaker 1: See, a very very surprising result. I wasn't following in 1463 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:54,760 Speaker 1: real time, but then when I caught everything else after 1464 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 1: the fact and why it was important, I was blown away. Actually, 1465 01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 1: So to your point, you know, not the most prestigious title, 1466 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:01,439 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure which one is in boxing, but 1467 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 1: a hard road to get to even these spots. And 1468 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,040 Speaker 1: congratulations to him. 1469 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 2: Well, Tayo Femo responded to that video of him crying 1470 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,120 Speaker 2: with this tweet that says, hey, it's an interim belt, relaxed, buddy, 1471 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 2: not classified as a world title. I don't care what 1472 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,479 Speaker 2: any of you make it seem. You know who the 1473 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 2: real champion is. Well, Taylor's got one hundred and eighty 1474 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,160 Speaker 2: days to make the fight with Barbosa. Here's Barbosa sending 1475 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:25,480 Speaker 2: a message. 1476 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,760 Speaker 12: Yeah, two females in against back and against corner. You know, 1477 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,800 Speaker 12: now people know why that he's been ducking me man 1478 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,720 Speaker 12: for the past four years, you know, so, so now 1479 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,240 Speaker 12: it's time for him to put up or shut up 1480 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 12: and vacate, man. 1481 01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:36,680 Speaker 2: So let to see what he does. 1482 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,519 Speaker 10: Ring magazine tends you doing to show Alcatraz with female Lopez. 1483 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 1: How coold does that sound for yourself? Man? 1484 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,960 Speaker 12: I think if you put me into a female in Alcatraz, man, 1485 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,160 Speaker 12: that's gonna be an amazing war. 1486 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:48,400 Speaker 3: You know that, that one. 1487 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:49,920 Speaker 2: I'm coming to war, you know. 1488 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,519 Speaker 12: So So my man, my manager is getting on and 1489 01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,599 Speaker 12: trust me, he's going to Saudi. He's probably going straight 1490 01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 12: to Saudi after this. So he's gonna talk to Turkey 1491 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 12: man and see what we can do. 1492 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,640 Speaker 2: So Luke Tao's either going to drop the belt, move 1493 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 2: up to one forty seven and maybe wait for the 1494 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,000 Speaker 2: winner of Bhotsennis against Staniosis, or he can fight in 1495 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:14,400 Speaker 2: May or June on Alcatraz Island for riaddsays, and against Barbosa. 1496 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 2: This is the situation, I believe, and I want to 1497 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,719 Speaker 2: know your opinion. If the Tao from the Josh Taylor 1498 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,639 Speaker 2: and the Loma fight shows up, he's going to defend 1499 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,040 Speaker 2: that title. But if they make this fight and he's 1500 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,160 Speaker 2: that in between Tao Barbosa could be an issue. 1501 01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean, if he's distracted from again, I don't know 1502 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,599 Speaker 1: if he's sent the racist gift box, but if that's 1503 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,479 Speaker 1: where his head is at, he actually did that. You know, 1504 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,920 Speaker 1: we've seen him underperform. We've seen the dude. Tao is 1505 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:49,960 Speaker 1: capable of incredible overperformance as well as shocking underperformances. He 1506 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 1: shows up and you can't believe how vid he is. 1507 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,720 Speaker 1: The BCS you know this too. There are times he 1508 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 1: shows up and you're like, dude, what the fuck is 1509 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,280 Speaker 1: going on here? Like you don't understand any part of it? 1510 01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,400 Speaker 1: So which one you're gonna get makes the whole thing 1511 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:01,800 Speaker 1: kind of exciting in that way. 1512 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm happy for Barbosa. He really fought a smart fight, 1513 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,479 Speaker 2: new when to press on the gas, new when not 1514 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,920 Speaker 2: to Catterall fought well too, by the way, but I 1515 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:14,040 Speaker 2: didn't think he was offensive enough. Let's go to topic number four, 1516 01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,639 Speaker 2: which still stays in boxing and critics are heavily panning 1517 01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,559 Speaker 2: this WBA proposal, which was started by the way by 1518 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,519 Speaker 2: Teo Fimo Lopez and the idea of the return to 1519 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 2: fifteen round boxing fights, maybe in titles only or in 1520 01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,760 Speaker 2: undisputed titles only. So first, let's show the video of 1521 01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:38,559 Speaker 2: Tao Femo being interviewed under a Ring Magazine podcast with 1522 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:39,640 Speaker 2: Steve Kim. Listen to this. 1523 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:41,479 Speaker 1: I want to know something. 1524 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 2: Can we bring some fights to fifteen rounds? 1525 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 3: Mm? 1526 01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 1: Can we? 1527 01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:46,599 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1528 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 2: That might be just some of us I feel for 1529 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 2: the undisputed dispute. 1530 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 3: How about we do undisputed fifteen. 1531 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,680 Speaker 13: Rounds, add three rounds to it, then we'll find out 1532 01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,479 Speaker 13: who the true champions are. I think you're one of 1533 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:04,480 Speaker 13: those true champions. You got two of these and two divisions. 1534 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,360 Speaker 13: Let's get you let's let's get you a third one. 1535 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:08,360 Speaker 2: And let's let's do that. 1536 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,760 Speaker 8: Then I think, I think in honor of the representation 1537 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,439 Speaker 8: of what it really stands for that sanctioning fee of 1538 01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 8: three percent that you guys on charge, right, there's no 1539 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:17,559 Speaker 8: sanction fee. 1540 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:22,520 Speaker 2: Why not three rounds? Extra fifteen rounds? All right to disputed? 1541 01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:27,720 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for joining us. Man. And that 1542 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,040 Speaker 2: was obviously not Steve Kim, Sorry, that was Dougie Fisher 1543 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,879 Speaker 2: of Ring Magazine there. So Luke Tayl makes that suggestion 1544 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,040 Speaker 2: and the next day and by the way, don't don't 1545 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,280 Speaker 2: miss there. How Dougie Fisher was like, Okay, Tayo, let's 1546 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,599 Speaker 2: wrap that up. You're sounding crazy again. But after Tayo 1547 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:45,639 Speaker 2: did this, WBA president Gilberto Mendoza said publicly he's willing 1548 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,880 Speaker 2: to consider the change for high caliber fights only. The 1549 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,799 Speaker 2: comment was vehemently and publicly maligned by just about everybody, 1550 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,360 Speaker 2: from Turkey Ala chkh to the remaining three sanctioning body 1551 01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,919 Speaker 2: heads in the BC, the ba AH in the IBF, 1552 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,160 Speaker 2: and also our own Luke Thomas so Lt. While this 1553 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,679 Speaker 2: feels like a no brainer, can you explain why going 1554 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 2: back to fifteen round title fights in boxing is potentially 1555 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:16,640 Speaker 2: a horrific idea? 1556 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,040 Speaker 1: The number of rounds that need to be there in 1557 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,920 Speaker 1: order to, you know, keep fighters safe. Oh right, I'm here, 1558 01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm here. Can you hear me? You can hear me? 1559 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got you, We got you. 1560 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:39,960 Speaker 1: Everyone. Sorry. The answer is this followed three it round 1561 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,439 Speaker 1: you could have to minimize all fighter safety are to 1562 01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,559 Speaker 1: minimize fight er danger, I should say. The reality is 1563 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,960 Speaker 1: boxing is dangerous, and people die in one round bouts 1564 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,760 Speaker 1: and they die in twelve round bouts. You might be 1565 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,839 Speaker 1: asking you what is the difference between that and fifteen 1566 01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 1: Chelseana brought up a point on the MMA side when 1567 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,639 Speaker 1: they went from three to five round bouts in MMA 1568 01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:02,080 Speaker 1: where you're adding, now, granted a significantly greater chunk, you're 1569 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,800 Speaker 1: adding two ten minutes or two five minute rounds of 1570 01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,240 Speaker 1: ten minutes extra to the bout. But like, the level 1571 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:11,120 Speaker 1: of damage that happens in those bouts goes up exponentially, right, 1572 01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 1: Like they're much more damaging, much more consequential, And that 1573 01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,120 Speaker 1: by itself is kind of bad enough, but we let 1574 01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,439 Speaker 1: it go because it's important for the division, and it's 1575 01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,760 Speaker 1: important for the fights themselves, and it's important for the titles. 1576 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:28,240 Speaker 1: Fifteen rounds is something that boxing used to do until 1577 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,639 Speaker 1: a series event's happened. But most importantly, a guy by 1578 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,280 Speaker 1: the name of Kim duck Ku fought ray Mancini on 1579 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 1: National TV and was basically beaten to death on air 1580 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,519 Speaker 1: and died shortly after the bout itself. But like you 1581 01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:47,320 Speaker 1: can watch him get torn to pieces in these contests, 1582 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:57,200 Speaker 1: in this contest, and you can see him against really really, 1583 01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,679 Speaker 1: really really fucking bad. It was after that that basically 1584 01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 1: people give me hear me, all right, wow, okay. 1585 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,280 Speaker 2: We got you back. A local, we got you back. Okay, 1586 01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 2: We're trying our best here. 1587 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,599 Speaker 1: Sorry. The point I'm trying to make here is if 1588 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing my best in this hotel room. The point 1589 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to make here is we did do fifteen rounds, 1590 01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,559 Speaker 1: and people fucking died doing it in a very visible 1591 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:36,240 Speaker 1: and unnecessary way. Anyone in any of boxing's regulatory apparatus, 1592 01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,559 Speaker 1: whether that's the officiating side or the sanctioning side, who 1593 01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 1: is seriously considering doing fifteen rounds in a boxing contest 1594 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,679 Speaker 1: deserves to be removedved from office, removed from their position. 1595 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,240 Speaker 1: You are not capable of making sound judgment, a ludicrous 1596 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,800 Speaker 1: idea that can only endanger people, and it's just one 1597 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 1: fighter imagining something that sounds cool in theory we see 1598 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,840 Speaker 1: that has no real relationship to the dangers you then 1599 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,519 Speaker 1: secure ortis certainly raised the level of by doing it. 1600 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,719 Speaker 1: In the real world. We saw a guy get beaten 1601 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:14,479 Speaker 1: to death doing this. Revisiting this idea is a non 1602 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:19,719 Speaker 1: fucking starter. It's moronic, it's dangerous, it's bad, and bc 1603 01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,599 Speaker 1: it's not even necessary. You don't even need to add 1604 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 1: basically ten more minutes to a boxing fight. What the 1605 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 1: fuck are we even talking about here? 1606 01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that fight with uh Duku Kim Fate 1607 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,040 Speaker 2: was obviously infamous and he fought like there was no 1608 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,760 Speaker 2: Tomorrow with an unbelievable amount of pride and passion, and 1609 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,360 Speaker 2: obviously it went the way it went. Not only did 1610 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,360 Speaker 2: he die, his mother committed suicide, and then the referee, 1611 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:49,880 Speaker 2: Richard Green shortly after committed suicide, and then Raymoncini was 1612 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,559 Speaker 2: deeply depressed, and it really you know, he would go 1613 01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:53,880 Speaker 2: on to make the Hall of Fame, but that was 1614 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,479 Speaker 2: obviously a major turning point in his career. So uh 1615 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,160 Speaker 2: Luke talked about it. So did Turkey Ala Sheikh with 1616 01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,479 Speaker 2: this tweet, and we know he seems to have the 1617 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,519 Speaker 2: most control of anybody in the boxing right now, and 1618 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,879 Speaker 2: he says, no, I don't support this idea in anyway. 1619 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:08,920 Speaker 2: This is bad for a fighter's health, and I would 1620 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,559 Speaker 2: never be in favor of fights going back to fifteen rounds. 1621 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,439 Speaker 2: In my opinion, even a twelve round fight could be 1622 01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,880 Speaker 2: too much for a fighter's health, but fifteen is out 1623 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,559 Speaker 2: of the question. It would never be allowed to happen. Luke, 1624 01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,720 Speaker 2: he may be running boxing shortly, so it's good to 1625 01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:26,639 Speaker 2: see him say that. And also Promoterludabella, who's long been 1626 01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,000 Speaker 2: very public about his internal struggles that we all go 1627 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,840 Speaker 2: through with this sport and the corruption, and you know 1628 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,479 Speaker 2: the physical price people can pay. He came out in 1629 01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,000 Speaker 2: a response to your tweet and said, shame on the 1630 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,960 Speaker 2: suggestion let's get more barbaric again, when we can't even 1631 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,960 Speaker 2: standardize health and safety protections in this effing sport, let's 1632 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,680 Speaker 2: just kill some more people and scramble more brains. I 1633 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,040 Speaker 2: guess I'm happy, Luke, that that Turkey came out and 1634 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,840 Speaker 2: said that, because, like I said, he's got the most control. 1635 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:58,360 Speaker 2: I hope that wherever this Turkey and TKO takeover happens, 1636 01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,880 Speaker 2: that we get a uf seek commitment to health standards 1637 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,000 Speaker 2: in this so that we can at least clean up 1638 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,040 Speaker 2: that in boxing, you know what I mean. We're gonna 1639 01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,040 Speaker 2: have all this organization. Hopefully it's for the long term 1640 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,240 Speaker 2: good and not a monopolistic nightmare. But hopefully first and 1641 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,840 Speaker 2: foremost they get the safety right so we don't have 1642 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 2: to even have these type of discussions. 1643 01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:21,160 Speaker 1: You know, there's just no this is a terrible idea 1644 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,080 Speaker 1: where I know, we're living in an era where people 1645 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,880 Speaker 1: just want to rip out the copper wiring in their 1646 01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:28,760 Speaker 1: house to see what's behind it, and then like all 1647 01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden, problems emerge. And now we're gonna have 1648 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 1: to solve them. This is something we don't have to do. 1649 01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,160 Speaker 1: There is no need for this. It doesn't change anything 1650 01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,000 Speaker 1: for the positive. Fuck no to all of this and 1651 01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,559 Speaker 1: to anyone who says it, remember their name. They're out 1652 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:42,120 Speaker 1: of their mind. 1653 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,040 Speaker 2: There you go. Let's go to topic number five to 1654 01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,760 Speaker 2: close it out. Look. This Saturday, February twenty second, Ri Odd, 1655 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,959 Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia, Dezone and Turkey A La Sheik are presenting 1656 01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,360 Speaker 2: what has only been marketed and called as the Fight 1657 01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:01,639 Speaker 2: Card of the Century, A supercard with evan intriguing title 1658 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,920 Speaker 2: bouts on the main portion. So, Luke Thomas, kind of 1659 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:10,000 Speaker 2: a two part question and one here, this card's depth 1660 01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:11,600 Speaker 2: is so ridiculous. I don't know if it was you 1661 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,800 Speaker 2: told who told me? But Boxing Scene has rated four 1662 01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:18,519 Speaker 2: of the seven fights on this card five star bouts, 1663 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 2: which is its top rating. The other remaining fights are 1664 01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:25,240 Speaker 2: all four star bouts. Does the quality of this event 1665 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:29,160 Speaker 2: live up to its ambitious title? And which storyline are 1666 01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,679 Speaker 2: you most excited about? So what I'm really asking you, Luke, 1667 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,000 Speaker 2: is is it acceptable to call this the fight card 1668 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,600 Speaker 2: of the century? And what are you most focused in on? 1669 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,559 Speaker 1: I mean, PC there's people who are rightly concerned about 1670 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 1: like Saudi sportswashing and like what the role of that 1671 01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,200 Speaker 1: is going to be going forward, and not even just that, 1672 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 1: like just monopolistic control. Like there's plenty of things to 1673 01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,960 Speaker 1: be concerned about. But if you're just judging the fights 1674 01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,080 Speaker 1: on the card and you're trying to like understand how 1675 01:22:56,080 --> 01:23:00,639 Speaker 1: significant it is, I mean again, maybe you disagree. Any 1676 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,280 Speaker 1: single one of these could be a main event. Any 1677 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,360 Speaker 1: single one of these could be a main event, depending 1678 01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,240 Speaker 1: on how they want to do it. And more to 1679 01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:11,160 Speaker 1: the point, the card is so good BC. The card 1680 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:15,240 Speaker 1: is so good it's actually drowning out the rematch between 1681 01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:19,000 Speaker 1: Better beeB and Bival. There is so much happening on 1682 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:23,519 Speaker 1: this card that there actually isn't that much buzz. I 1683 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:26,080 Speaker 1: mean there is, but there's not you know what I mean. 1684 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,080 Speaker 1: You would have thought that the main event would be 1685 01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:29,840 Speaker 1: like this thing would be like dissecting, and we did, 1686 01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,800 Speaker 1: of course after it happened, but I mean in the 1687 01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:33,639 Speaker 1: lead up to it, we'd be talking about this and 1688 01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:35,280 Speaker 1: that and like all the different things that we learn 1689 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:36,680 Speaker 1: and what can be up at this time, and some 1690 01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,600 Speaker 1: of that is happening. But you have to divert your 1691 01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:42,400 Speaker 1: attention to Big Bang being on this to the return 1692 01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,080 Speaker 1: of Shaquar Stevenson being on this too. By the way, 1693 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,760 Speaker 1: Magro Mob and Virginal Ortiz on this fucking card, and 1694 01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,479 Speaker 1: I'm just I haven't even mentioned I've gone through half 1695 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:55,160 Speaker 1: of it. It is so outrageously stacked that it's ustly 1696 01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:59,839 Speaker 1: hard to process under normal boxing and frankly maybe even 1697 01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:03,280 Speaker 1: any car terms. This is maybe the first boxing card 1698 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,439 Speaker 1: that I've seen that is like, like, you know, even 1699 01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,280 Speaker 1: really good boxing cards we see we'll have two maybe 1700 01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,240 Speaker 1: three good fights, right, you know what I mean? Like that, 1701 01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,960 Speaker 1: that's saying a lot, dude. This one's got what seven 1702 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:15,679 Speaker 1: of these motherfuckers. 1703 01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,599 Speaker 2: And they're all studs. I mean the first one has 1704 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:21,400 Speaker 2: been Joshua Blazzi against Callum Smith. It's like, holy crap, 1705 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,720 Speaker 2: that fight rules too. Let's show this commercial that The 1706 01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,080 Speaker 2: Zone put together. It illustrates what we're looking at here. 1707 01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:30,320 Speaker 14: The Flight Card of the Century Live on the Zone Worldwide, 1708 01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:33,639 Speaker 14: February twenty second, with Belts on the Line all night 1709 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,599 Speaker 14: featuring an epic rematch Better. 1710 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:40,000 Speaker 4: Be a Versus Bivil two for the Undisputed Light Have 1711 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:45,439 Speaker 4: you Eeight Championship to Bob versus Baker defend or de 1712 01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:47,479 Speaker 4: Throne for the world Have you eight Crowns? 1713 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:53,639 Speaker 14: Stevenson versus Schofield, Superstars battle for lightweight World Championship, glory 1714 01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,000 Speaker 14: a Dominis gus you see less heavy hitters meet for 1715 01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:01,960 Speaker 14: the middleweight Championship of the World. Ortez Me versus Medromon knockout, 1716 01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,800 Speaker 14: King's CALLI for the World super Lightweight Thrones, Shang versus 1717 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:10,559 Speaker 14: Cabel Fightings clash for world anyweight domination. To what see 1718 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,200 Speaker 14: versus Smith's Battle of Britain eliminator for. 1719 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:14,559 Speaker 4: A shot at the world title. 1720 01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:19,519 Speaker 14: The Fight Card of the Century February twenty second, with 1721 01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:24,200 Speaker 14: belts on a line all night Fine now at the 1722 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,160 Speaker 14: Zone dot Com slash Boxing. 1723 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,840 Speaker 2: Looke. They deserve us playing that commercial on this show. 1724 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 2: That's that's that's They're not all full title fights, but 1725 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,320 Speaker 2: they're all either a title fighter one that leads directly 1726 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 2: to a big one. The idea of trying to pick 1727 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,519 Speaker 2: which storyline you like best. I think the best storyline 1728 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:42,920 Speaker 2: here is that this card is out of control. 1729 01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,000 Speaker 1: It is indeed completely out of control and to the 1730 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,160 Speaker 1: point where I'm like, I'm you're asking, like, what the 1731 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:52,840 Speaker 1: coolest storyline is I don't even know which way to 1732 01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 1: go with this one. Just the main event alone, just 1733 01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:03,400 Speaker 1: the main event alone, hardb see, it's insane. Just the 1734 01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,840 Speaker 1: main event alone is worthy of opening down between Smith 1735 01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:10,040 Speaker 1: and Black Seas like for every casual fan. But after that, dude, 1736 01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:12,439 Speaker 1: it's this is this is a I don't know, I 1737 01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:13,720 Speaker 1: don't know if they're going to make a card like 1738 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,520 Speaker 1: this again. You know I'm being serious. 1739 01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:17,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. This is so huge. 1740 01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,400 Speaker 2: And maybe I don't know Turkey's plans, but we've always 1741 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,880 Speaker 2: said in boxing, at least we'd like to get an 1742 01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,400 Speaker 2: annual super Bowl card. The idea was always, you know, 1743 01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,559 Speaker 2: all the promoters come together for one card per year. Well, 1744 01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,479 Speaker 2: with Turkey, you can do that. Maybe this is I mean, 1745 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,479 Speaker 2: I know, this is just another big ten pole event 1746 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,719 Speaker 2: which on a year which is going to be filled 1747 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,080 Speaker 2: with them. But we can say what we want about 1748 01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,400 Speaker 2: the other side of dealing with with Turkey and the 1749 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 2: threats of the takeover with TKO, And you know, we've 1750 01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,919 Speaker 2: written about it, we've talked about it. There's more positives 1751 01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,160 Speaker 2: and negatives, and this is a major positive. On Saturday, 1752 01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:51,840 Speaker 2: the winner of that co main event, by the way 1753 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:56,160 Speaker 2: between Dubois and Joseph Parker for that IBF belt. Usik's 1754 01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,519 Speaker 2: ready to you know, to face the winner. So there's 1755 01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:00,960 Speaker 2: so much at stake. I can't wait to see this. 1756 01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,760 Speaker 2: Luke Thomas, are you using the re You want to 1757 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,800 Speaker 2: use the restroom and I'll just like seeah, let me. 1758 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,559 Speaker 1: Go real quickly to the bathroom and I'll be right back. 1759 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,120 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, while Luke heads off to the bathroom, 1760 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,840 Speaker 2: we are going to start our next segment as we 1761 01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:17,280 Speaker 2: put the five. Luke, we've got an echo issue. 1762 01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:19,400 Speaker 4: I'm mute at him. 1763 01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,080 Speaker 2: We're good. Thank you very much, Long Island, Luke, thank 1764 01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 2: you all for dealing with our audio issues. We're doing 1765 01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,920 Speaker 2: our best, but we're getting there. We're getting there. So yeah, 1766 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:31,000 Speaker 2: this card topped a bottom. Absolutely ridiculous. I'm really really 1767 01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,320 Speaker 2: really looking at Obviously the main event is the best 1768 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:38,080 Speaker 2: fight on there, but that Madromov Ortiz fight, uh not 1769 01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,560 Speaker 2: for supremacy at one fifty four, but certainly for a 1770 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,240 Speaker 2: pole position here in a lot of ways, with Arties 1771 01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 2: coming off that fight, a year win over Bow with 1772 01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,960 Speaker 2: Chuck in the run that he's been on in Madromov, 1773 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:52,360 Speaker 2: in that loss to Terrence Bud Crawford really put himself 1774 01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:56,639 Speaker 2: on the map in a major elite way. So damn, damn, 1775 01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:00,000 Speaker 2: damn in a in a I think the one I'm 1776 01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,639 Speaker 2: intrigued by, by the way, is that shaker Stevenson Floyd's Schofield, 1777 01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,160 Speaker 2: which is probably the opposite for a lot of people. 1778 01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,559 Speaker 2: We expect Schofield to get humbled and lose in a 1779 01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,880 Speaker 2: spot where it's probably too much too soon. But he 1780 01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:18,160 Speaker 2: is aggressive. He is sometimes raw and fearless. Buckle up, 1781 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,080 Speaker 2: it's gonna be fun. We're gonna find it out. Let's 1782 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,479 Speaker 2: go to our next topic. We give you the chance 1783 01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:26,479 Speaker 2: every Sunday evening on the social channels of that morning 1784 01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,360 Speaker 2: combat on x and Instagram to send your questions in 1785 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,559 Speaker 2: now a warning you may get heckled if you've got 1786 01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 2: a weird username, and you better come original. This one's 1787 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:47,280 Speaker 2: called DMS from the docks. Alrighty, let's hear the first one. 1788 01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:50,760 Speaker 2: As Luke finishes naked gun style urinating into the microphone. 1789 01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,960 Speaker 2: This is great. Yeah, the first one's coming to us. 1790 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,920 Speaker 2: In very small print from at four to twenty history 1791 01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,000 Speaker 2: Bird shout out to that guy right there. We love 1792 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:03,680 Speaker 2: that guy is k Shawn Davis's career more impressive than 1793 01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:08,240 Speaker 2: Shaquer Stevens currently. Uh, shaquers Stevenson's currently. So here's the deal, 1794 01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:13,080 Speaker 2: South Oregon Bird for twenty history guy, No, he has 1795 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:17,760 Speaker 2: not accomplished more than Shakur, who gets heavily more maligned 1796 01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:22,280 Speaker 2: for getting boot out of his hometown and arena in 1797 01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:26,479 Speaker 2: a wide you know, winn then is necessary. Shakur is 1798 01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:31,120 Speaker 2: a three division champion already and Kishan at twenty five, 1799 01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,080 Speaker 2: just climbed his first major hill there. But I think 1800 01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,120 Speaker 2: the where the conversation shifting is. You heard me in 1801 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,920 Speaker 2: that Kishon interviews say the fight I wanted to see 1802 01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,759 Speaker 2: more than any this calendar year was tanked versus Shakur, 1803 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,320 Speaker 2: And now I think I'm actually ready to sub about 1804 01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:48,200 Speaker 2: Shakoor and put Kishan in. So that doesn't mean that 1805 01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,800 Speaker 2: Kishon has reached a higher level of accomplishment, but I'm 1806 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:56,920 Speaker 2: starting to readjust my you know, five princes, four kings, 1807 01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,919 Speaker 2: six kids, whatever we're gonna call this, these Young America 1808 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,799 Speaker 2: and breakout boxing stars. I thought Shakoor was the boss 1809 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,439 Speaker 2: at the end of this video game, and now I'm 1810 01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,640 Speaker 2: readjusting that. Every time I see Keishaan Davis and I 1811 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,360 Speaker 2: think that's as great of an endorsement as you can 1812 01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,120 Speaker 2: give a young fighter, because I think even through some 1813 01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,920 Speaker 2: of his public warts that Shaquarer Stephen is still the 1814 01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:21,479 Speaker 2: Stevenson is the absolute goods in this game. But Luke, 1815 01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:25,720 Speaker 2: would you agree that that Keishaan's kind of taking some 1816 01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:27,960 Speaker 2: thunder right there? You know what I mean? Like in 1817 01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,680 Speaker 2: this division at the moment, he's grabbing the hype of 1818 01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:31,200 Speaker 2: the division. 1819 01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:36,439 Speaker 1: At the moment, he's got some of Stevenson's flexstabilities. I 1820 01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,120 Speaker 1: mean they're not the same, but he's got some of 1821 01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,400 Speaker 1: his flex stabilities, but he can also punch, and he's 1822 01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:43,559 Speaker 1: as we talked about, it changes the equation a lot. 1823 01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:47,479 Speaker 2: Actually, indeed it does. Let's go to question number two 1824 01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:52,880 Speaker 2: here from at Kiarin underscore Delaney. I mean, one day 1825 01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,800 Speaker 2: we'll figure out how to pronounce that. It's probably like 1826 01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,000 Speaker 2: charras or something. I have no idea. Why do you 1827 01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:02,639 Speaker 2: think the heavyweight division talent pool has regressed significantly over 1828 01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:03,960 Speaker 2: the last number of years? 1829 01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:05,080 Speaker 4: Uh? 1830 01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,160 Speaker 2: In case I get picked by name, it's oh, here 1831 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:11,679 Speaker 2: we go. He put it in there. It's pronounced Kiran, Luke, 1832 01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:17,439 Speaker 2: It's not Sharon Kiiran Delaney. This guy drugs, Delaney has definite, 1833 01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,080 Speaker 2: definitely share. Yeah, Sharon is Karen, thanks for sharing. Luke. 1834 01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,000 Speaker 2: I assume he's talking about MMA where the heavyweight scene 1835 01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:28,519 Speaker 2: is pathetic at the moment. I'm outside of the very 1836 01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,960 Speaker 2: elite who can't fight each other or won't fight each other, 1837 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:36,479 Speaker 2: meaning in Ganu espinal Anne Jones, what do you think 1838 01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:37,360 Speaker 2: about his question? 1839 01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:48,760 Speaker 1: There just hasn't so like these guys like Lesnar and 1840 01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:53,959 Speaker 1: Kane and Carwin, they don't do this anymore. And then 1841 01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:55,960 Speaker 1: the you know which we've lost in some of the 1842 01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,080 Speaker 1: other divisions, but then the Dagistani's kind of make up 1843 01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:00,200 Speaker 1: for it. But there just hasn't been that heavy wait 1844 01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,200 Speaker 1: kind of Dakistani thing going on on the to help 1845 01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,200 Speaker 1: out as like a counter balancing force. So there's just 1846 01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:09,519 Speaker 1: been really poor recruitment of elite heavyweight talent in a 1847 01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,160 Speaker 1: way that just didn't used to be this bad dude. 1848 01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,479 Speaker 1: The heavyweight used to be a lot dude. Even go 1849 01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,360 Speaker 1: back and look at the Strike Force Heavyweight Grand Prix 1850 01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:16,920 Speaker 1: and that wasn't even what the UFC could do. That 1851 01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:21,400 Speaker 1: was just rerepforce. It's crazy. It's crazy. 1852 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. You would think there would be such 1853 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,439 Speaker 2: an evolution of heavyweight's ability in the talent pool being 1854 01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,880 Speaker 2: deeper because guys are actually growing up seeing a path 1855 01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,599 Speaker 2: to it. You know, I can get into amateur wrestling 1856 01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:34,920 Speaker 2: and take my martial arts on the side and you know, 1857 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,120 Speaker 2: go to college or the Olympics, like there's a there's 1858 01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:40,799 Speaker 2: a route to get here. And we're seeing this heavyweight 1859 01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,040 Speaker 2: division get worse and worse. It's not like they're all 1860 01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:45,120 Speaker 2: in boxing, Luke, I don't know where they are. Where 1861 01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:45,840 Speaker 2: are these people? 1862 01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:49,280 Speaker 1: The NFL, the NBA. 1863 01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying Richie Incognito could have been something 1864 01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:54,760 Speaker 2: at two sixty five. 1865 01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,519 Speaker 1: Probably, yeah, probably. 1866 01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:04,400 Speaker 2: Look, you know, thank you Kiron Delaney for your question 1867 01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:08,400 Speaker 2: from somewhere over there in the Scotland, Ireland, Wales area. 1868 01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:13,439 Speaker 2: This next one's from Burner two three nine. Is UFC 1869 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:17,320 Speaker 2: struggling to find top contenders recently we are seeing a 1870 01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:21,920 Speaker 2: lot of champions defending titles and veterans like Cannoneer schooling 1871 01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:26,639 Speaker 2: the up and comers like Roldriguez. Is that is the 1872 01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:28,759 Speaker 2: let me restart? 1873 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:29,599 Speaker 3: That is it? 1874 01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:34,400 Speaker 2: The UFC calendar has them going through contenders too quickly, Luke, 1875 01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,240 Speaker 2: Why are we, according to this man, not I mean 1876 01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,160 Speaker 2: we I don't know if that's true. First of all, 1877 01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:42,439 Speaker 2: is the if you want to say with stars, there's 1878 01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,840 Speaker 2: not enough stars at the moment they're reloading that. Yes, 1879 01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,640 Speaker 2: but there's contenders up the wazoo, is there not? 1880 01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,719 Speaker 1: Well, I mean depends on the division, right, So like heavyweight, 1881 01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:55,040 Speaker 1: there really aren't any two of five that really aren't. 1882 01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:58,360 Speaker 2: Many woman's banda weight, there's nothing going on, Luke. 1883 01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,960 Speaker 1: There's just absolutely fuck all. But some of the other 1884 01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,479 Speaker 1: ones are obviously stacked. It just really depends on what 1885 01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,959 Speaker 1: the division is. And then also like even at lightweight, 1886 01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,640 Speaker 1: there's not a I mean, there's always be contenders, but 1887 01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:14,400 Speaker 1: there's not like a great matchup because there hasn't been 1888 01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:18,599 Speaker 1: that turnover you talked about. Like again, Rodriguez should have 1889 01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,200 Speaker 1: beaten Cannon here, that's what That's how a division, a 1890 01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:25,200 Speaker 1: healthy division normally functions. So there are some issues like that, 1891 01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,679 Speaker 1: But to the point you raised, I would just submit 1892 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:34,679 Speaker 1: these are specific issues. And also, like you know, it's 1893 01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,679 Speaker 1: basically the not entirely, but it's basically the big dudes. 1894 01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,840 Speaker 1: That's that seems to me to be the real problem here. 1895 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:42,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a problem with big dudes at the 1896 01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:47,360 Speaker 2: moment number four comes from Fahi Liom. Yes, we got 1897 01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:53,320 Speaker 2: another Liam Luke, unbelievable, that's like the most popular. He says, 1898 01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:56,160 Speaker 2: what is a fight or fighter that changed your perspective 1899 01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,360 Speaker 2: on how just how tough mentally and physically a person 1900 01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,120 Speaker 2: can be? Luke, I want to jump in quick and 1901 01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:06,880 Speaker 2: say Glover to Schera versus Yeri Prohatska and Jamal Hill. 1902 01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:10,559 Speaker 2: In both of those fights, I had multiple readjustment periods 1903 01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:14,160 Speaker 2: where I'm like, how the frick is this cyborg taking 1904 01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,320 Speaker 2: this damage and just coming back with a smile. 1905 01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. I'm going to go Diego 1906 01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,639 Speaker 1: Sanchez versus Martin Campman, and I've talked about this fight 1907 01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:26,400 Speaker 1: even recently. I think on the show, Dude, Diego Sanchez's 1908 01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:31,120 Speaker 1: face was falling off, was falling off, And there's a 1909 01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,120 Speaker 1: day I don't know if it's still somewhere on fight 1910 01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:35,000 Speaker 1: Pass or anywhere else you see, but there's a video 1911 01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:39,000 Speaker 1: at the time of Lorenzo and Dana visiting Diego backstage 1912 01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:44,160 Speaker 1: getting his face zwn back on, and Diego is just 1913 01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:46,400 Speaker 1: talking about quote a son like his heart the whole time. 1914 01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,200 Speaker 1: It's crazy, Like, dude, that was one of those fights 1915 01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,240 Speaker 1: where I couldn't believe how tough he was, but sure 1916 01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:51,840 Speaker 1: enough he was. 1917 01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,160 Speaker 2: What was that fight with Anthony Smith and somebody's pounding 1918 01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:57,439 Speaker 2: his teeth out? That was a pretty gnarly moment. 1919 01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:01,120 Speaker 1: Glover knocked his teeth. Yeah, he handed the teeth to 1920 01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:01,800 Speaker 1: the referee. 1921 01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's just yeah. I mean I could easily 1922 01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:09,559 Speaker 2: also say, uh, rounds four and five of Hunt Silva 1923 01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,400 Speaker 2: I still lives in my brain as this is any 1924 01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:17,639 Speaker 2: humane Yes. Uh, the final one comes from Spice of 1925 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:22,680 Speaker 2: callinan What is both of your go to orders at 1926 01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,400 Speaker 2: a Mexican restaurant at this point in my life, it's 1927 01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:29,120 Speaker 2: usually straight up Jalisco fajitas every time, and if not, 1928 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:33,000 Speaker 2: I go with the casa berea tacos as a second option. 1929 01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:34,800 Speaker 1: What word does that? See? 1930 01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:46,240 Speaker 2: Uh? Casa berea uh console uh mino Uh yeah, oh 1931 01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,599 Speaker 2: yeah yeah yeah case abirri ya, thank you very much? 1932 01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:54,120 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, uh what's your what's your go to order? 1933 01:36:54,280 --> 01:37:03,479 Speaker 2: See, it's definitely a a tort sandwich. The pork is tremendous, luke, 1934 01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:06,320 Speaker 2: but I'll try to go with the beef. That's but 1935 01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:09,000 Speaker 2: that's you know, not every restaurant will have that, So 1936 01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:13,439 Speaker 2: if not, I will go with the carnea sada burrito. 1937 01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,080 Speaker 2: Does that make me a you know, a gringo? Probably? 1938 01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,479 Speaker 1: Well, the way you describe the torta sounded like you 1939 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,559 Speaker 1: had a plan for banging fat chick. 1940 01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I want to leave it ambiguous, 1941 01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,320 Speaker 2: like where you got to question my motus, you know 1942 01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:27,760 Speaker 2: what I mean? 1943 01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, ILL tell you what. There's this Mexican restaurant 1944 01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:34,400 Speaker 1: I go to now. It's got some Salvadorian cooks, so 1945 01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:36,720 Speaker 1: they kind of remix the menu a little bit. But 1946 01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:39,360 Speaker 1: I have a favorite dish because it's it's it's close 1947 01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:41,320 Speaker 1: to where we take Twoki for some of her after 1948 01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:44,840 Speaker 1: school activities. Yes, and they make this dish called the 1949 01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:49,960 Speaker 1: La Carretta, which is a skirt steak, okay, rice beans, 1950 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, guac, sour cream, the whole bit. And then 1951 01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:57,320 Speaker 1: they also just throw in a free bean and cheese poopoosa, 1952 01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,720 Speaker 1: which is like a look like a like a pancake. 1953 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:06,200 Speaker 2: Sounds like sounds like a torte, you know what I mean. 1954 01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:10,840 Speaker 1: Great dud are like the Salvadory in Number one Food 1955 01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,639 Speaker 1: and in DC. They're super super good because obviously there's 1956 01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:17,080 Speaker 1: a millions. Salvador here. Uh that that dish is my 1957 01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:19,240 Speaker 1: go to. It's the it's the skirt steak with the 1958 01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,160 Speaker 1: with the papoosa and then the of the bean and 1959 01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:24,719 Speaker 1: the cheese. Buddy, Buddy, that is a home run winner. 1960 01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:28,879 Speaker 2: Okay, but if it's breakfast, it's only one thing. Levels 1961 01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:34,680 Speaker 2: Aroanchero's Luke, Okay, it's keto bitch right yeah, all right, 1962 01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,800 Speaker 2: there we go a little more skit You're terrible. That's 1963 01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,920 Speaker 2: our five questions from the d m ors of the week. 1964 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,840 Speaker 2: Thank you. This final segment, though, is where I do 1965 01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:47,120 Speaker 2: everything in my power, using the Internet and your submissions 1966 01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:51,320 Speaker 2: to my Instagram dms to make Luke Thomas uncomfortable and 1967 01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,840 Speaker 2: or laughing. This one's called have you seen this ship? 1968 01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:54,280 Speaker 3: All right? 1969 01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:07,400 Speaker 2: Wow? Who? Luke? Big weekend for Connor McGregor BKFC had 1970 01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:11,439 Speaker 2: he press conference in Italy where Connor says he's ready 1971 01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:12,439 Speaker 2: to knuckle up. 1972 01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:14,280 Speaker 1: For sure. 1973 01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:17,519 Speaker 15: Three time up here, if you're two time up here 1974 01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:21,320 Speaker 15: giving these speeches and leading these men into bottle and 1975 01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,719 Speaker 15: I won't step in there myself tink again for sure. 1976 01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:29,200 Speaker 15: Connor McGregor will fight in Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship, mark 1977 01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:30,360 Speaker 15: my words. 1978 01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,920 Speaker 2: Luke mark his words, yan in on that or what. 1979 01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:40,520 Speaker 1: Couldn't couldn't be left in if there was a contest? 1980 01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:45,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right. Well, Connor, in his professional role 1981 01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:49,639 Speaker 2: as co owner of BKFC, seemed to tease a big 1982 01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,080 Speaker 2: signing coming up for that Bare Knuckle Federation. 1983 01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:55,519 Speaker 15: Stay tuned, we might have something announcement with fad On 1984 01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:56,240 Speaker 15: a million inco. 1985 01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:58,799 Speaker 2: Hey, Fador, we're waiting. 1986 01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:03,800 Speaker 15: Some news might be coming with Paranocle Fighting Championship is 1987 01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:07,000 Speaker 15: signing and acquiring the best fighters of all time. 1988 01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,679 Speaker 2: Luke, what the GFL that's going on here? 1989 01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, Fador is nearly fifty and geriatric 1990 01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:18,439 Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, a legend in the game. 1991 01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:20,320 Speaker 1: Need us say more? But what the fuck are we 1992 01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:20,680 Speaker 1: doing here? 1993 01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:20,760 Speaker 2: No? 1994 01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:21,160 Speaker 1: Thank you? 1995 01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:23,040 Speaker 2: I mean just put him in there against for Doom. 1996 01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,799 Speaker 2: Give him that rematch, Luke, that we've all been waiting for. Okay, 1997 01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:31,360 Speaker 2: I mean, somebody's finally. What do you get when you 1998 01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:34,960 Speaker 2: can bind Connor McGregor, cocaine and firearms? Luke, you get 1999 01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:47,080 Speaker 2: this video? Like have you wor clean the head? 2000 01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,200 Speaker 15: Look at the parle they've seen me on the next 2001 01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:51,040 Speaker 15: see the phone down at the neck two shuts to 2002 01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:51,880 Speaker 15: the neck down the bike. 2003 01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:52,439 Speaker 4: See that. 2004 01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:54,800 Speaker 15: Okay, this fucking thing. 2005 01:40:54,920 --> 01:41:01,200 Speaker 11: That's a beautiful that was great. 2006 01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:08,040 Speaker 2: This hell baby. 2007 01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:12,080 Speaker 15: Gold play to Tommy is like that, can I show this? 2008 01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:14,639 Speaker 2: So wal prepare for the pounds buck. 2009 01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:24,799 Speaker 14: Oh it's a powerful ah wow, Codpless America, God, bless America. 2010 01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:30,639 Speaker 2: Look that video was brought to you by Freedom and 2011 01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:33,599 Speaker 2: it's needless to say that Connor definitely would have taken 2012 01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:37,040 Speaker 2: the Polar Express with Osbourne without question had he enlisted 2013 01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,360 Speaker 2: alongside of you. Right, Oh my god. 2014 01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:41,800 Speaker 1: Right, I'm just glad there was a range stafe the 2015 01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:43,519 Speaker 1: officer there. Let's just put it that way. 2016 01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,280 Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, let's keep it going. It's time for MMA 2017 01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:48,840 Speaker 2: fighters in the wild. And this is not a joke. 2018 01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,960 Speaker 2: This is a real thing. John Jones Instagram Live Over 2019 01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:56,479 Speaker 2: the Weekend. Let's watch it, bun the trip. You can 2020 01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:58,800 Speaker 2: get pissed off disappointed. 2021 01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:02,960 Speaker 3: That he just want to kill it. 2022 01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:15,840 Speaker 2: I mean, look, we could have led the show with 2023 01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,000 Speaker 2: that if we wanted to be morbid. That's really bad. 2024 01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:20,680 Speaker 2: It seems I guess we shouldn't. 2025 01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:23,919 Speaker 1: Be looking for He sounded drunk to you, right, he did. 2026 01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,519 Speaker 2: But I don't know what he's referencing. And who he's 2027 01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,760 Speaker 2: gonna kill, you know, and it's really to try to 2028 01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,320 Speaker 2: it's morbid to try to figure that out, but it's 2029 01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,000 Speaker 2: it's damn dude, damn right. 2030 01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs help. Sounds like he needs help. I mean, 2031 01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm not even doing a bit like. 2032 01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:42,160 Speaker 2: He needs separate from this, Separate from this video. Why 2033 01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:44,240 Speaker 2: doesn't the UFC just strip him? I mean the answer 2034 01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:46,600 Speaker 2: is because they want to make Jones versus aspinall. But 2035 01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:49,480 Speaker 2: if he doesn't want to fight, or he can't physically 2036 01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,599 Speaker 2: accept the fight, like are we at that point yet, 2037 01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:56,000 Speaker 2: just strip him? I mean, you know, GDR got stripped 2038 01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,120 Speaker 2: when she's like, I don't want to fight Cyborg because 2039 01:42:58,120 --> 01:42:59,960 Speaker 2: she's on Royd's you know, They're like, okay, you're not 2040 01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:00,679 Speaker 2: our champion. 2041 01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:04,320 Speaker 1: The interesting, the interesting answer will be if he decides 2042 01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:07,400 Speaker 1: not to fight Aspenal for whatever reason, does the UFC 2043 01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:09,960 Speaker 1: claim that they stripped him or does he claim that 2044 01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,280 Speaker 1: he gave the title back. If we get to that point, it. 2045 01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:15,280 Speaker 2: Would be interesting. Uh More Fighters in the Wild Colby 2046 01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:18,479 Speaker 2: Covington showed up at the UFC Apex and posed with 2047 01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:21,680 Speaker 2: mel Gibson Luke. As we take one step closer to 2048 01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,320 Speaker 2: the Armageddon that is coming in our lives. Luke, Wow, 2049 01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:28,559 Speaker 2: look at these uh common bedfellows. And also Colby was 2050 01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:31,439 Speaker 2: on a live stream when Kamara Usmann refused to talk 2051 01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:31,840 Speaker 2: to him. 2052 01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:37,760 Speaker 10: What is it the somebody? Hey doing man, good to 2053 01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:43,479 Speaker 10: see you. It's a live streak, all right, for sure? 2054 01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:45,439 Speaker 1: You get that. 2055 01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:49,080 Speaker 3: Yes, that was oosning. 2056 01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:49,439 Speaker 6: Guys. 2057 01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:50,840 Speaker 16: He just said, hey man, we're gonna talk on a 2058 01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:52,200 Speaker 16: little bit. I don't think he wanted to talk on 2059 01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:54,559 Speaker 16: the stream because he didn't want to try to hear 2060 01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:56,920 Speaker 16: what he had to say. But yeah, we'll definitely chop 2061 01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:58,479 Speaker 16: it up a little bit. Maybe we'll get a picture, 2062 01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,320 Speaker 16: or maybe we'll just fight. You never know when chaos 2063 01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:05,160 Speaker 16: is in the building, it's unpredictable. He gave me, He 2064 01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:06,800 Speaker 16: gave me a knuckle. You know, I wasn't gonna shake 2065 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:08,400 Speaker 16: his hand. More about the knuckles, you know that's a 2066 01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:12,120 Speaker 16: sign of respect. So no hard feelings, you know, I 2067 01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:12,840 Speaker 16: said my truth. 2068 01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:15,639 Speaker 2: We duked it out. Maybe we'll do get out again. 2069 01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,599 Speaker 16: Whatever the fans want, We're gonna give the fans what 2070 01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:19,439 Speaker 16: the fans want. 2071 01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,120 Speaker 2: Look, I don't think the fans want him around anymore 2072 01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:24,599 Speaker 2: if we're being honest, right, I. 2073 01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,360 Speaker 1: Mean, here's what the here's what the fans want. Turn 2074 01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:29,679 Speaker 1: that stream off. That's what they want, that's what they want. 2075 01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:34,040 Speaker 2: Remember that time Nina Drama cost armand so are you 2076 01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,280 Speaker 2: getting a title shot? When they when they wrestled and 2077 01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:38,320 Speaker 2: it got weird on the video. Well, it got even 2078 01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:55,320 Speaker 2: weirder on Saturday. Watch this. 2079 01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:57,719 Speaker 1: This is I heard my bank because. 2080 01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:06,600 Speaker 6: You I'm back. 2081 01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:09,679 Speaker 2: No, you didn't, my bag my ball? 2082 01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:18,960 Speaker 1: That seemed nice. 2083 01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:27,840 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Look remember that time we covered that 2084 01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:31,400 Speaker 2: press conference with Jake Paul in Hollywood and we were like, 2085 01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:34,680 Speaker 2: what the hell is going on there? Let's listen to 2086 01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,000 Speaker 2: it on Dimitri Bevall, what. 2087 01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,799 Speaker 8: Was your first impression of this country of America? 2088 01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,800 Speaker 9: Yes, uh, when they came there. 2089 01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:49,240 Speaker 13: First of all, what I saw it was Hollywood, you know, 2090 01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:53,240 Speaker 13: and I thought, wow, it's so dirty. 2091 01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:59,240 Speaker 1: I expected Santa Monica. You're right, they can clean it up. 2092 01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:03,719 Speaker 2: Luke, Hollywood's the dirtiest place on earth. Let's be very honest. 2093 01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:08,080 Speaker 1: He's telling the truth. I've said this before. I couldn't 2094 01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:10,960 Speaker 1: believe how young the homeless looked at I. 2095 01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:14,800 Speaker 2: Know, beareful, barefoot and zombie like. It was gross, to 2096 01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,920 Speaker 2: say the least. Let's go I'm square where you can 2097 01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,880 Speaker 2: watch the Super Bowl on a big screen unless you 2098 01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:30,560 Speaker 2: get itchy and want to start kicking field goals. Okay, 2099 01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:32,680 Speaker 2: the local authorities are still. 2100 01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:33,519 Speaker 1: That's not real, is it? 2101 01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:36,800 Speaker 2: I looks pretty real to me, Luke. Okay, you know 2102 01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:38,800 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. They should put a sign out there 2103 01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:40,880 Speaker 2: saying no doing that. But let's keep going here. 2104 01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:42,679 Speaker 12: Huh. 2105 01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:46,080 Speaker 8: I guess I'm not parking on any city streets, if 2106 01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:46,800 Speaker 8: you know what I mean. 2107 01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:57,760 Speaker 2: All right, Luke, You ever fearful that Tukes is gonna 2108 01:46:57,760 --> 01:46:59,599 Speaker 2: grab the car keys one day and just get behind 2109 01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:00,000 Speaker 2: the wheel. 2110 01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:13,960 Speaker 6: Yeah okay, Oh my god, yeah, brother, run them people over. 2111 01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:14,559 Speaker 1: Let them know who. 2112 01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,080 Speaker 2: That was a kid bringing the hurt. Here's some kids 2113 01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:36,559 Speaker 2: getting hurt though. Good stuff right there. Our ko of 2114 01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:39,880 Speaker 2: the week brings us to the backyard. Luke sent this 2115 01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:43,920 Speaker 2: one to us. Holy crab, bah. 2116 01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,840 Speaker 1: Yo, look at this. They got my man posted up 2117 01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:47,280 Speaker 1: on the elbow like he's at the beach. 2118 01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:52,559 Speaker 2: Boh lord, that's a finish. Anything can happen in regional, 2119 01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:57,719 Speaker 2: regional or backyard m m a. Anything can happen. Watch 2120 01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:04,000 Speaker 2: this baseline cameraman. In this next clip, Oh boy, oh boy, sir, 2121 01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,479 Speaker 2: But it gets worse. Watch this for the wind right 2122 01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:17,720 Speaker 2: in the Jewels. Yes, unbelievable. Hey, it's it's time to 2123 01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:21,000 Speaker 2: get fecal on BC's feces. You all remember that time 2124 01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:24,400 Speaker 2: Justine Kish shared her pants in the octagon and became 2125 01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:26,240 Speaker 2: a meme for life. Luke, you remember that, right? 2126 01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2127 01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:30,639 Speaker 2: Unfortunately. Uh, Hey, let's welcome. 2128 01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:30,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 2129 01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:33,760 Speaker 2: If shitting your pants is cool, Luke, you can call 2130 01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,599 Speaker 2: me Jimmy Butler. All right, I mean, what the hell's 2131 01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:37,400 Speaker 2: going on here? 2132 01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:41,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy body? 2133 01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:47,759 Speaker 2: Oh, jim it's like a Sarahgusa style dropping right there. Wow? 2134 01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:53,280 Speaker 2: Is that what we thought it was? 2135 01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:58,000 Speaker 1: Bro? That looks like I don't shit. 2136 01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:03,439 Speaker 2: I think he shot his pants mid layup, which is 2137 01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:07,400 Speaker 2: pretty truman. Oh wow, that is Uh you know what, Luke, 2138 01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,920 Speaker 2: it's I've said it before, I'll say it again. Never 2139 01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:13,320 Speaker 2: trust the fart never never. 2140 01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,920 Speaker 1: Dude wipes, keep him, keep him on hand, dude wipes. 2141 01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:21,280 Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, Luke, I challenge you to a game of battleships. 2142 01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:22,919 Speaker 2: Do you expect? Do you accept? 2143 01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:23,240 Speaker 10: All? 2144 01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:23,519 Speaker 1: Right? 2145 01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:30,040 Speaker 2: Poop down at high noon? There we go. Uh, let's 2146 01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:32,360 Speaker 2: go over to you never know what you'll find at 2147 01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:38,360 Speaker 2: the Goodwill on the uh coffee mulgile. Uh my lead 2148 01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:44,520 Speaker 2: is this medieval nine to eleven humor, Luke, that's unbelievable. 2149 01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:44,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 2150 01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:49,720 Speaker 2: Okay there, and we all know Luke's favorite character in 2151 01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:52,280 Speaker 2: this segment, the weird cake lady. Let's see what she's 2152 01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:57,640 Speaker 2: up to. Okay, she eats the lipstick? 2153 01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:02,440 Speaker 1: All right, this lady. Okay, listen, I try to be progressive, 2154 01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:04,040 Speaker 1: but this woman is a whore. I mean, what kind 2155 01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:04,280 Speaker 1: I say? 2156 01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:08,679 Speaker 2: Wow, Luke, look at the high heel too. 2157 01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:17,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, keep eating your shoe. You're disgusting. You send her 2158 01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,400 Speaker 1: to the gulag immediately. 2159 01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:22,639 Speaker 2: All right, time for your accident of the week. Let's 2160 01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:44,799 Speaker 2: watch this. Oh yeah, that's his teammate. Oh wow you damn. 2161 01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,639 Speaker 2: Let's let's go to you. I think we played this before, 2162 01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:50,000 Speaker 2: but it's worth the second time. 2163 01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,280 Speaker 4: You can't turn the black Cock black. 2164 01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:56,000 Speaker 1: We can't turn the clock back. I know it's after 2165 01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:59,519 Speaker 1: a minute. We can't turn the clock back and turn 2166 01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:01,080 Speaker 1: it back in the mid eighties. 2167 01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:04,600 Speaker 2: Look, if you ever turned the black Hawks back? I 2168 01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:06,280 Speaker 2: mean it's an honest question. 2169 01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:08,280 Speaker 1: Not yet, but you know, the night is young. 2170 01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:11,479 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's head over to What's New and 2171 01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:18,479 Speaker 2: fast Food? Try the new Anus Pound. Oh no, look, 2172 01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:20,880 Speaker 2: look they call that the mc diddy. You know what 2173 01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:25,400 Speaker 2: I mean? All right, Okay, there we go bout. Yeah, 2174 01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:29,320 Speaker 2: all right, Look, I got a great idea for Tuki's 2175 01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:30,320 Speaker 2: next birthday party. 2176 01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:34,879 Speaker 17: I have two red balls and nothing in my ass. 2177 01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:38,280 Speaker 17: I take this first ball, place it in my hand. 2178 01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:44,000 Speaker 17: This second ball goes in my ass. Give a little tap. Well, 2179 01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:45,760 Speaker 17: pap Tella. 2180 01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:52,400 Speaker 2: Portation Look are you progressive enough to hire that gentleman? 2181 01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:54,519 Speaker 2: Or what I mean? What's going on here? 2182 01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:57,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have Tukey in that golf cart run him over. 2183 01:51:57,560 --> 01:51:58,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 2184 01:51:58,120 --> 01:52:01,040 Speaker 2: Thank you very much and more. You know how much 2185 01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:04,160 Speaker 2: I love art and painting. Let's see this easy twelve 2186 01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:18,960 Speaker 2: step process to paint this. It's a masterpiece. It's a 2187 01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:23,160 Speaker 2: master or something. Wow, that is unbelievable. That's where Luke's 2188 01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:26,400 Speaker 2: career is at. Thank you for playing. That's all the 2189 01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:26,840 Speaker 2: issue we have. 2190 01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:30,480 Speaker 1: I can not believe you included that one. I cannot 2191 01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:32,479 Speaker 1: believe you included that. You went for it. You went 2192 01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:32,960 Speaker 1: for it God. 2193 01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:35,640 Speaker 2: Damage, Yeah, you know which is our in itself to 2194 01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:38,240 Speaker 2: go for it like that. Luke, Thank you for trying 2195 01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:41,840 Speaker 2: your best with the tin can in the string. In 2196 01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,479 Speaker 2: terms of being able to hear us, but you know 2197 01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:45,840 Speaker 2: we made it. We made it. 2198 01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I had I have everything, but it's just 2199 01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:50,080 Speaker 1: with the with the hotel. It's tough. I don't know. 2200 01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no problem. 2201 01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:55,040 Speaker 2: Thank you to Shakers Stevenson for joining us, Long Island, 2202 01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:58,639 Speaker 2: Luke of the Main Card Minute and MK fame. Are 2203 01:52:58,640 --> 01:52:59,240 Speaker 2: you there, sir? 2204 01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:03,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, you just said Shaker Stevenson. Though it is Keishaan Davis, my. 2205 01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:07,200 Speaker 2: God, drain park Key Shawn Davis, not you, of course, Stevenson, 2206 01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:10,120 Speaker 2: who I also will be chatting with this week. I believe. 2207 01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:12,720 Speaker 2: Thank you Keishaan, Thank you Long Island. Look you have 2208 01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:15,280 Speaker 2: anything else to say, no, cita, this is your chance. 2209 01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:16,599 Speaker 2: All right, this is your moment. 2210 01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:19,439 Speaker 5: I'll have a bet breakdown later today, another one tomorrow. 2211 01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:21,120 Speaker 5: Tune in Main Card Minute, Thank you very much. 2212 01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:23,799 Speaker 2: Get on that at MCM. There we go, Luke Thomas, 2213 01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:27,800 Speaker 2: any final words from the nation's best and brightest city. 2214 01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:32,639 Speaker 1: Nothing yet, Oh, here we go, Here we go, nothing yet. 2215 01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:35,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone who tuned in today, and we'll have 2216 01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:37,559 Speaker 1: a lot of coverage on Friday for the big boxing card. 2217 01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:38,679 Speaker 1: Should be a lot of fun. 2218 01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:43,040 Speaker 2: Morningcombat at gmail dot com allows you to reach the 2219 01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:46,640 Speaker 2: show merch to come take care of yourselves. Thank you 2220 01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:50,080 Speaker 2: for joining us this week, and you can follow us 2221 01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:52,360 Speaker 2: below if you could like the video and even go 2222 01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:55,639 Speaker 2: as far as subscribing, that would help us out a lot. 2223 01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:59,280 Speaker 2: Thank you for playing for LT This is BC. Take 2224 01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:01,559 Speaker 2: care of your head, take care of your loved ones, 2225 01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:05,120 Speaker 2: don't freeze to death. Winter's almost over and we're out 2226 01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:05,760 Speaker 2: of here. Thank you,