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Speaker 1: What's going on, man, Not too much.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited. It's my time of year, all right, love it.

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Speaker 3: We are not going to bore you with a lot

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Speaker 3: of quarterback talk today. We're gonna driving a lot of

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Speaker 3: the other positions. We've done quarterback with a lot of

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Speaker 3: the other guys. So I'm gonna start with this. If

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Speaker 3: you're the Giants, and let's say you can get a

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Speaker 3: quarterback in free and so you're not worried about quarterback

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Speaker 3: in the draft, and you can sit there and you

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Speaker 3: can choose between Abdul quarter and Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 1: Who are you taking? Why?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: I always take rush first, I mean, but I also

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Speaker 4: am thinking I'm gonna go through the pro.

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Speaker 2: So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna work through

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Speaker 2: my division first.

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Speaker 4: So on my division, you know, I've got Jaden Daniels,

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Speaker 4: which is he's gonna be a problem for years to come.

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Speaker 4: You got Dak Prescott, uh and they're kind of they're

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Speaker 4: still filling themselves out why.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. They could really change quite a bit

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Speaker 2: over the next three years. But we'll see. You can

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Speaker 2: never go wrong with rush.

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Speaker 4: And but you know, if you go cornerback, all right,

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Speaker 4: you got Terry, I got a guy to guard Terry McLaurin.

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Speaker 4: I got a guy for Ceedee Lamb if he's still there.

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Speaker 4: I got a guy for aj Brown or Devonte Smith.

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Speaker 4: I don't really think there's a wrong answer. I think

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Speaker 4: the big difference here is Abdell Carter is within the

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Speaker 4: parameters of a typical early pick physically, and Travis Hunter

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Speaker 4: is thin five ish and so you know, I think

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Speaker 4: that's that's my problem there is that I don't want

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Speaker 4: him to break down. You know, how many snaps do

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Speaker 4: you think Travis Hunters had over the last two years?

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Speaker 2: I take a guess, I'll say you a typical year.

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Speaker 4: A typical year is going to be like for a

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Speaker 4: for a wide receiver, will be something like six hundred

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Speaker 3: They play so many games. Now I play, say probably

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Speaker 3: last three years. I play, say about last two years,

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Speaker 4: Twenty six hundred, that's good. Twenty six hundred is the

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Speaker 4: equivalent of four years of college football. I look at

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Speaker 4: snap counts for players. When I see three thousand, you've

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Speaker 4: played a ton of football. If you get a lot

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Speaker 4: of these guys are sixteen, seventeen, eighteen hundred snaps. Travis

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Speaker 4: Hunters played twenty six hundred snaps. There's a lot of

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Speaker 4: snaps where he's a corner. Hey, there's no action, sure,

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Speaker 4: but it's it's the fact that he's he's put a

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Speaker 4: and tear, but there's just been a lot ask of him.

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Speaker 4: So now when he gets to the NFL, if he

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Speaker 4: make him tackle, They're gonna make him tackle running backs.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be battling bigger, more physical cornerbacks. And if

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Speaker 4: you want to roll him over to wide receiver, you

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Speaker 4: know he'll take less of a pounding a wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: But but I think that with Travis Hunter, you know,

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Speaker 4: where do you have more value? It may differ from

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Speaker 4: team to team, right, but we can find find wide receivers,

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Speaker 4: good ones in the second and third round. You can't

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Speaker 4: find guys with his ball skills and instincts. They are

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Speaker 4: really hard to find. He's going to be a really

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Speaker 2: Corner allth of us had it as a corner too.

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Speaker 2: We agree with you, Yeah, we're with you.

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Speaker 1: And then the other part about it is this cornerbacks

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Speaker 2: High level of the position. Yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 4: And so anytime you're looking at a position, you want

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Speaker 2: Second day two. So if I'm looking.

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Speaker 4: At a rusher, this is a great year for rush

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Speaker 2: If I'm the Giants.

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Speaker 4: three to four rounds of the draft. If I want

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Speaker 4: and it better do it early. Yeah, So you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of the same mind. I'd rather find two

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Speaker 1: Same theory lands And he knows how much I love

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Speaker 1: Mason Graham. I think he's one of the top five players,

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Speaker 1: top three players in this draft, nine quarterbacks. But when

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Speaker 2: See, I don't think he's special.

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Speaker 4: And this is what I mean. I'm going to say

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Speaker 4: that word. I don't say elite special, and I damn sure.

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Speaker 4: I don't say generational all the time like the young

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Speaker 4: people do now where everybody is generational, Like what generation?

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Speaker 2: What are you talking?

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Speaker 1: You can't have a generational guy every year by definition.

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Speaker 4: So I think Mason Graham is the safest, one of

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Speaker 4: think Mason Graham's going to be a very good, productive

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Speaker 4: he's no better than Walter Nolan. To me, but he

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Speaker 4: may be a better pro, but he's not more talented

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Speaker 2: Tra No, he's not.

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Speaker 4: And Walter Nolan is more explosive as a rusher too.

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Speaker 2: So I'm with you on this. Mason Graham to me,

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Speaker 4: So my only the only thing I'm saying is I'm

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Speaker 4: who ends up being a starter. Now, the same impact level, No,

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Speaker 2: That's what you're doing. You're sliding in different directions to

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Speaker 4: Or it's like a Madden game where you can you're

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Speaker 4: that I have available to me. You're doing that with

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Speaker 4: a draft too. You have a certain amount of picks

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Speaker 4: and you say, what is the best conglomeration of players

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Speaker 4: I can get with these with these picks with the

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Speaker 4: highest total grades that we have on our.

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Speaker 2: On our board. Hoddle up and get in here.

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Speaker 4: If you're lined up here, you gotta go over the

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Speaker 1: How do we make that happen? I don't know?

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Speaker 3: Who's your favorite Day two defensive tackle?

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Speaker 1: That that that that you really like?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, day two defensive tackle. There's a lot of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: someone to go next to Dexter Lawrence. Let me make

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Speaker 4: Okay, next to Dexter Lawrence. Oh Man, I'm going Tyleek

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Speaker 4: I think there's a good chance. It depends on the run.

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Speaker 4: How deep the run on defensive tackle goes. I think

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Speaker 4: it's going to be close, So I think Tyler. I'll

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Speaker 4: give you a few names, TYLERK Williams. I think Alfred

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Speaker 4: And I would say maybe even trading back and you

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Speaker 2: He can rush. He played if you go well, look

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Speaker 2: They played him a defensive end and he was dominant.

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Speaker 2: They had spin moves and he had like why does

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Speaker 4: I think Josh Farmer is another one. Did you stick

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Speaker 4: and you just let and you just bully everybody. You say,

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Speaker 4: no fly zone in the middle of this defense. So

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Speaker 4: you know, everything you're doing in the draft is how

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Speaker 4: those are That's the decision making process.

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Speaker 2: Typically the gems are rolling.

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Speaker 1: Through another very thick position is running back, although not

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Speaker 1: so much at the top, a little bit more down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's only a couple of guys that separate themselves. So

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Speaker 1: if you're the Giants and you want to pair someone

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Speaker 1: with the Tyrone Tracy running back room, who was one

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Speaker 2: I love Tyrone Tracy.

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Speaker 4: If you want to pair somebody specifically with Tyro, we're

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Speaker 4: We want to be physical. So we're gonna do one

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, is that what you want? You tell me

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it's no more fun than watching a

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Speaker 2: That's who I think crosses Lance.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, my friend, always a pleasure to see.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it again.

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Speaker 3: Go to the Combine tracker on NFL dot com. All

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Speaker 3: of Lance's reports are there. I have stolen your drink

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Speaker 3: kick off live for continuing cover from the NFL Combine

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Speaker 3: in Indianapolis.