Speaker 1: It's nine o one with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, you guys, this is
Speaker 2: another episode.
Speaker 3: Not just another episode. This is the episode. This is
Speaker 3: a this is a big Kelly Taylor episode. A lot
Speaker 3: of kissing going on.
Speaker 4: I have comments.
Speaker 2: You have so many comments. Wait do you want you
Speaker 2: want to give your comments now?
Speaker 3: No? No, no, wait, Johan take order.
Speaker 4: I have two that will hook people in listening. Hook
Speaker 4: on Tory slash Donna. I'm real sick of that ass. Ray,
Speaker 4: WTF you need to get away from him?
Speaker 2: Sing it sista Jenny slash Kelly. Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: What is going on that.
Speaker 4: You have a boyfriend named Brandon and you are fully,
Speaker 4: fully making out with Dylan Listen.
Speaker 3: I was so scared for you. I was like, what
Speaker 3: if someone comes by then knows you guys, what.
Speaker 2: If there's Papa Razzi on that beach?
Speaker 3: She wouldn't even.
Speaker 4: Really feel bad or weird or awkward about it.
Speaker 2: No, it felt natch, felt so natched. I just did it.
Speaker 2: I mean, Kelly just did it.
Speaker 3: Sometimes in life you just have to go with it.
Speaker 3: You were in the moments.
Speaker 5: Yeah, two things that need to really be addressed.
Speaker 2: We are going to address them. Because this is season five,
Speaker 2: episode thirty, Hello Life, Goodbye Beverly Hills. It aired May seventeenth,
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 3: This is the Big Sweets synopsis. It's the ultimatum herd
Speaker 3: around the world. Kelly is forced to choose between the
Speaker 3: bling bling of Brandon's ring and a ticket to Paradise
Speaker 3: with Dylan McKay. Ooh. Meanwhile, Jim and Cindy are leaving
Speaker 3: for Hong Kong, and Andre leaves the she once knew
Speaker 3: and Donna starting to realize Ray's abusive behavior is really
Speaker 3: taking a toll.
Speaker 4: Just starting to realize.
Speaker 2: Directed by James Whitmore, Junior, I have things to say
Speaker 2: about that and written by the beautiful Jessica Kleine and
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit by Steve Osterman. Writing good, very good, writing,
Speaker 2: very memorable, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: Yes, where to begin? Go through it all?
Speaker 5: I have one more thing I really want to address.
Speaker 2: What is your third thing? You'd like to address?
Speaker 4: Him? Andrea kissing everyone on the lips?
Speaker 2: I know, Hi, herpees and COVID, herpees.
Speaker 3: And COVID, So I got this that was pre COVID.
Speaker 3: What was that? SARS? What was that back then?
Speaker 2: That was herpes, herpes and more herpes.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, so many lips to say we get
Speaker 3: through ten years unscathed. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. And Nona Arenda had herpes and she
Speaker 2: kissed me all the time. I don't know how I
Speaker 2: made it.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's just jump back to.
Speaker 4: You buy Vale Tres.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you could send some over please, thanks. Episode
Speaker 2: recap what we're starting in a weird foreign place for
Speaker 2: and get it. And I didn't know what was happening.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you did it. We're starting at
Speaker 2: the travel agency where Dylan is buying a romantic vacation
Speaker 2: package for two and the second person is Kelly Taylor.
Speaker 3: I thought maybe it was going to be doctor Molly Campbell.
Speaker 4: Wasn't presumptuous, so presumptuous things.
Speaker 3: I know what a travel agent? Do you guys know her?
Speaker 3: She's somebody? No, I mean, well we're all somebody.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't know who the travel agent was, but a great.
Speaker 3: Question went on to become someone.
Speaker 2: I don't have her on my list of guest stars.
Speaker 4: Seems expensive for a whim too, because he doesn't know
Speaker 4: you're coming, and usually that stuff's not refundable.
Speaker 2: How expensive? Yeah, a trip around the world never been
Speaker 2: then back then? Well, how expensive is one? Now I'd
Speaker 2: like to know.
Speaker 5: One hundred grand, now fifty grand.
Speaker 4: Then that's just my absolutely not hire a good guess.
Speaker 2: No, it takes ten grand to go to Hawaii.
Speaker 4: I mean so higher, so higher. Yeah, one hundred grand,
Speaker 4: then two hundred grand, now three hundred.
Speaker 3: Do I hear three hundred I'll take it for five
Speaker 3: hundred dollars.
Speaker 5: He has four millions, so he doesn't care.
Speaker 2: I would advise him to start caring because your four
Speaker 2: million dollars is going to go pretty quick. If he's
Speaker 2: spend a night like.
Speaker 3: This, it feels like an episode of Cribs. It's going
Speaker 3: to go fast.
Speaker 2: He needs to make some investments.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I gotta go. Well, he thinks he's making
Speaker 3: an investment in the future, Great, hand him over to me.
Speaker 3: But I think you know you are his investment in
Speaker 3: the future.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's still a kid living on a prayer.
Speaker 2: I don't know, so we don't we don't know what
Speaker 2: he's thinking. But we're going to go ahead and go
Speaker 2: onto the Walls house where Jim gets a phone call
Speaker 2: and he's so blown away by this off of this
Speaker 2: offer that he got of a promotion and a two
Speaker 2: and a half time raise.
Speaker 4: Seriously, that's a big raise. Let's think about that. What
Speaker 4: do we think Jim's making right now? Too hundy?
Speaker 5: And now he's gonna be making six hundy.
Speaker 2: Wait, he was not making two hundred thousand dollars a
Speaker 2: year in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 4: That seems too high.
Speaker 2: Your numbers are off.
Speaker 3: To It does seem high. But they live in Beverly
Speaker 3: Hills in the flats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he doesn't even pay for that house. It's
Speaker 2: a company expense because they moved.
Speaker 3: Him there, remember, Yeah, and we know what corporate housing
Speaker 3: looks like. Just like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just gave him a little, a little help.
Speaker 4: They probably don't for the moving truck.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's definitely making a lot more.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: Did you see Brandon like, hey, I loved it and
Speaker 5: then he's all stop stop.
Speaker 2: That was cute the way they were doing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim looks real tired in that scene. He looks tired.
Speaker 2: He's been stressed, you guys, this is fair. He thought
Speaker 2: he was getting the act. You really did, But no, no, no,
Speaker 2: he is moving to Hong Kong. That's like crazy did
Speaker 2: you guys hear the completely inappropriate music they played when
Speaker 2: they mentioned the Hong Kong?
Speaker 5: Oh jeez, I missed that.
Speaker 4: But do you guys remember though, like, did they want
Speaker 4: to leave? Was there?
Speaker 3: What did they want to on a hit series? They
Speaker 3: were like, please let us here?
Speaker 4: Okay, so this was they were asked too.
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like yeah, sorry, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I hate it.
Speaker 2: I mean, my first note was yay at the Walshes.
Speaker 2: I love seeing them. I love seeing them in their kitchen.
Speaker 2: I love seeing her cook, I love seeing him walk
Speaker 2: in his suspenders. I don't know what I wou.
Speaker 4: Without it, I would have kept them around.
Speaker 2: So this was the last episode for No, this is
Speaker 2: not their last episode.
Speaker 5: Next week and then.
Speaker 4: They do come back is next week? No, it's sort
Speaker 4: of part two.
Speaker 3: Yes, when's the party?
Speaker 5: The house is for sale? That's not that's all next week.
Speaker 2: We had a party in this episode, though, like we
Speaker 2: had two parties.
Speaker 3: She had parties. I know, I got a little sick
Speaker 3: of them. I'm not gonna lie. I wanted to keep
Speaker 3: seeing her, but I was like they could have done
Speaker 3: something a little more fresh.
Speaker 2: I didn't understand why there were more than one party.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why was that?
Speaker 4: What? There was your party? Oh no, pardon me.
Speaker 5: There was the school party. There was the actual.
Speaker 4: Peach pit we're driving away moment. That wasn't exactly a party.
Speaker 2: Oh the after dark what about hmm, there wasn't a
Speaker 2: party inside the peach pit. That's when they were there
Speaker 2: was That was.
Speaker 4: The goodbye So I wouldn't know if I'd call that
Speaker 4: a party. They were picking up their breakfast to go
Speaker 4: it was. It was there for the lip kisses.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I mean or on nine o two zero
Speaker 3: as we reference it, it's a party because yeah, everyone
Speaker 3: in the same spot. It's a party. Saves money. Cool.
Speaker 5: I love that they went back to West, which we'll
Speaker 5: talk about.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get back to it. You guys the beach.
Speaker 2: We go from Hong Kong to the beach where Kelly
Speaker 2: is hanging out with Dylan. First of all, not real
Speaker 2: good at that.
Speaker 3: Oh see, you were being harsh on yourself. I was
Speaker 3: super impressed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought you were good.
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, she's gonna fall, and then she did.
Speaker 5: Were you a rollerblader at the time, Who.
Speaker 2: Wasn't It was the mid nineties. Everybody rollerbladed on that
Speaker 2: very piece of land right on that strip, right in
Speaker 2: front of that beach apartment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was real. Then I got nervous when they
Speaker 3: showed you because you were going slow, but then it
Speaker 3: looked like it went from your POV and you're going
Speaker 3: real fast.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was out of control pretty much. But thank god,
Speaker 2: Dylan catches me and falls under me so perfectly.
Speaker 5: In a romantic public moment for a girl who has
Speaker 5: a boyfriend.
Speaker 2: For everyone to see.
Speaker 3: That was weird, though, like cohesive because I can picture
Speaker 3: you and I know you, and you were probably laughing
Speaker 3: and wanting to be aggressive because you're being funny, and
Speaker 3: it could have ended a different way.
Speaker 2: I just think that was one of those situations where
Speaker 2: I was like, how are we going.
Speaker 5: To do this?
Speaker 2: We should work it out. I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is going to be good or not, and what if
Speaker 2: I get hurt? And Luke was like just roll the
Speaker 2: camera yeah, and then he's like, just skate towards me.
Speaker 2: I'll catch it over.
Speaker 3: You're like, now you're gonna catch me, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it worked out. She falls, They start making out,
Speaker 2: and Dylan surprises her with the trip the tickets that
Speaker 2: he looked that is. It's weird because it doesn't seem
Speaker 2: that shocking or surprising to Kelly.
Speaker 4: Correct, it's very odd.
Speaker 2: It's very odd.
Speaker 3: She's playing it cool. I mean, how she's supposed to react.
Speaker 2: But she, well shouldn't she say, Oh, I'm dating Brandon.
Speaker 4: This is weird.
Speaker 3: I just couldn't stop staring at how beautiful you looked.
Speaker 3: I didn't care what was coming out of your mouth.
Speaker 4: I was just like, ah, I would like to talk
Speaker 4: about how At the time, I also didn't think it
Speaker 4: was weird, and then now I do.
Speaker 2: Ye. Well, at the time you were just like oho,
Speaker 2: well was she supposed to be like different?
Speaker 4: Woo?
Speaker 2: And such good kisses? I'm really those I felt those kisses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for you. I felt those kisses for you.
Speaker 2: How many years later is it now?
Speaker 4: Thirty two?
Speaker 2: Thirty No?
Speaker 5: No, no, twenty nine, sorry, nine, twenty nine.
Speaker 2: It feels weird, yeah, twenty nine years.
Speaker 4: Later, twenty eight.
Speaker 5: I'm not great at math.
Speaker 2: Still gives me the feels.
Speaker 3: We've learned that today.
Speaker 4: Okay, can I go to a limb that you and
Speaker 4: Luke or Kelly and Dylan have a hint more sexual
Speaker 4: chemistry than Kelly and Brandon.
Speaker 2: Duh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, saying, Okay, I'm just saying I don't mean to
Speaker 5: be captain obvious.
Speaker 2: I just want to say no. But I think they
Speaker 2: both have good you know stuff there that's just different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you should marry him right now, Dylan, because
Speaker 4: you should marry Brandon.
Speaker 5: He's more stable.
Speaker 3: Too young, well too.
Speaker 5: Young, of course, we're getting out of ourselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's go to the peach pit where Ray dude,
Speaker 2: this guy being his usual d bag self.
Speaker 3: Are you sure I feel like it? This episode took
Speaker 3: a drastic turn. Oh, to prove a point.
Speaker 4: He's hideous in this episode, but it goes.
Speaker 3: I know he's been a little douchey, but like he.
Speaker 5: He pushed you, and he pushed you in the motel room.
Speaker 5: This guy sucks.
Speaker 2: They know what's coming now. The writers are fine. They're like, yes,
Speaker 2: you know what the next episode is going to be.
Speaker 2: We gotta get to it.
Speaker 4: If this was now, everybody would be like, get away
Speaker 4: from him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And like I think at the time, we were like, oh, Ray,
Speaker 5: it's kind of cool. What the hell was wrong with me?
Speaker 4: That guy sucks so bad?
Speaker 2: But you can tell that Donna really is seeing it now,
Speaker 2: and but she doesn't know what to do.
Speaker 4: Tory's space is a little bit Donna's right now, Like Torri,
Speaker 4: you're like a little bit like for Ray when it's
Speaker 4: like that guy sucks.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, say it, say it?
Speaker 3: What do you want me to say? Say? Ray sucks?
Speaker 3: Ray sucks, raise a bad guy?
Speaker 4: Wait, Tory, do you think Ray sucks? Wait?
Speaker 3: Does Tori he sucks?
Speaker 2: Or does Donna think he's Both were the same, You're not,
Speaker 2: and that's something else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm concerned that Tory slash Donna is still giving
Speaker 4: this guy a shot.
Speaker 5: Yes, this guy sucks so hard.
Speaker 3: It's hard in something to just leave no matter if
Speaker 3: it's good.
Speaker 2: I think we all know that now about Tory slash Donna.
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh what are you saying at the time.
Speaker 4: At the time, Yeah, Donna really like like Kelly never
Speaker 4: would have stayed with a guy like Ray at the time.
Speaker 4: She would have been like get or Claire would have
Speaker 4: been like beat it.
Speaker 3: Even hindsight, like they wrote the character of Ray based
Speaker 3: on my real life and that bad boyfriend I had Jack.
Speaker 4: I think Valerie would have stayed with that tool too,
Speaker 4: because Dylan and Ray treat her badly and she's always going.
Speaker 5: Back for more.
Speaker 3: The years line up.
Speaker 2: I don't think that they I mean, that would have
Speaker 2: been really clever pro I was saying in apropro for
Speaker 2: them to like, but maybe they have realized on something
Speaker 2: so bad happening in your life, yeap, that they would
Speaker 2: write that into the show. I mean, I would think
Speaker 2: that they would have had a little bit more but sensitivity.
Speaker 4: It tracks for Donna.
Speaker 3: It's oddly listening to like he puts me down. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, this is exactly what I
Speaker 3: used to say about that boyfriend.
Speaker 5: And Missus Martin does first.
Speaker 3: So even if they didn't plan it it, nobody caught that,
Speaker 3: like ooh.
Speaker 4: Yes, and yes Martin treats Donna badly, so she's just
Speaker 4: mirroring what she has experienced growing up. Missus Martin is
Speaker 4: always criticizing and like doing weird stuff.
Speaker 2: This is getting weird.
Speaker 5: It's getting weird. We need Mollie.
Speaker 2: We need Mollie to hypnotize you so that we can
Speaker 2: go back in your life and figure out what the
Speaker 2: fudge is happening.
Speaker 4: I think it's Missus Martin. If I'm gonna say, it
Speaker 4: always starts.
Speaker 2: With the mom come on such an easy. I resent
Speaker 2: that remark now as a mother. I'm like I said
Speaker 2: to my girls the other day, when am I going
Speaker 2: to hear about your therapy sessions? About all the ways
Speaker 2: I've messed you up? But it always does go back?
Speaker 3: It always did, Mom.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your kids will blame you, Tori for anything wrong
Speaker 4: in their lives too.
Speaker 3: Of course they blame me every day. What do you mean?
Speaker 3: But that's okay.
Speaker 2: So she invites Ray to Andrea's goodbye party, and he
Speaker 2: refuses to go because he doesn't like them. He asks Donna,
Speaker 2: if he made her choose between her friends and him,
Speaker 2: what would she do?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: What choice would she make? Donna? Which choice would you make?
Speaker 4: Ray?
Speaker 2: Are your friends?
Speaker 3: I had this conversation over and over in real life.
Speaker 3: I always chose you. Are you happy?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I am not to use the most obvious term in
Speaker 4: the world. But he's a bit of a gas lighter too.
Speaker 2: The worst that sucks. Then we're going to go on
Speaker 2: into the Walsh house. There were well, of course, tells
Speaker 2: Brandon immediately, hold on, hold your hat, just gip something
Speaker 2: very important.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we did you and Val.
Speaker 4: When Val comes over to borrow the notes, she sees
Speaker 4: the tickets.
Speaker 3: Why did you leave the tickets? She walked in. Why
Speaker 3: didn't you jump up and move the tickets?
Speaker 2: I mean, Kelly didn't seem very surprised at all to
Speaker 2: have val just walking into her bedroom like that.
Speaker 5: She didn't really seem concerned that she saw the tickets.
Speaker 2: She's very like relaxed that day. Yeah, I was exhausted
Speaker 2: from all that fresh air and rollerblading and making out AnyWho.
Speaker 2: Back at the Walls house, Valerie of course tells Brandon
Speaker 2: immediately and Kelly are She like literally runs there and
Speaker 2: says they are taking a trip around the world, and
Speaker 2: she tells, it just kills me that you're fooling around.
Speaker 2: That she's fooling around on you like this, It kills me.
Speaker 3: Kills her pains. She's right there if he needs someone.
Speaker 2: No, it's just creepy to me now that she's gonna
Speaker 2: put her sits on Brandon, is she I don't know,
Speaker 2: it seems like it Dylan's house. Brandon comes over. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: so Brandon finds out. He goes straight to Dylan's house
Speaker 2: to confront Dylan, and he tells him, I know you
Speaker 2: love her, but they have a special connection and he
Speaker 2: will never understand.
Speaker 3: We'll hold on first, he puts on his best actually
Speaker 3: nice fitting h tweed blazer to go over to Dan.
Speaker 2: You want to wear a blazer when you're gonna go
Speaker 2: over to a friend's house confronts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 2: It makes him look a little tougher.
Speaker 3: It looks good, it look good. I thought they got
Speaker 3: I thought they were gonna get into it like way.
Speaker 2: I was hoping there are gonna be some action there.
Speaker 3: I wasn't Brandon Moore fired up.
Speaker 2: I don't know those those two they don't ever really fight.
Speaker 2: They just talk.
Speaker 4: About Yeah, and it's not it's not his nature to
Speaker 4: suddenly be all crazy about it.
Speaker 3: But yet, well, I wish he had gotten a little
Speaker 3: more in his face. I wish he had done something. See,
Speaker 3: here's the thing that makes me sorry. I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: say I want Kelly with Dylan is moments like that
Speaker 3: when Brandon it's like fight or flight, and he's a
Speaker 3: flight guy. He doesn't like he's gone standing like I
Speaker 3: wanted him to go to fight for his girl and
Speaker 3: not fight like just something like be.
Speaker 2: A little more aggressive a little Yeah, and those.
Speaker 4: Two are the worst set of friends of all time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like, who is what I guess that
Speaker 2: they're I mean they're not. Kelly is not very good
Speaker 2: friends to Brenda. Brandon's not very good friends too Dylan.
Speaker 2: Kelly's not a very good boyfriend a girlfriend, Dylan's not
Speaker 2: a good friend of it. It's a lot.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of yeah in primetime series, right.
Speaker 2: You gotta have those triangles to make yeah people interested.
Speaker 2: So then we go back to the beach where Brandon
Speaker 2: surprises Kelly with a new pair of roller blades.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the second time that made me
Speaker 3: not root for Brandon, like.
Speaker 2: That he gives her a pair of roller blades.
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be something clever, like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, something.
Speaker 6: For her trip to be like, so she'd be like, what.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, like a luggage. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: what I literally thought at first. And I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: it's too small. What's gonna It's gonna be something clever,
Speaker 3: new roller blades from my girl.
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, I mean, apparently you're the roller
Speaker 4: blading queen of the world and we just didn't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, he just slotted her in. Remember he
Speaker 3: used to roller blade. Who was that girl that had bandags?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 4: Oh, my god, great memory, great memory, the short haired girl.
Speaker 5: From the beach club.
Speaker 3: That one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a really good marriage.
Speaker 2: So the truth comes out here Kelly lets him know,
Speaker 2: or he lets her know. I'm not sure how that
Speaker 2: happened that he knows about the trip around. Kelly admits
Speaker 2: that she still has feelings for Dylan well oh, and
Speaker 2: says Brandon didn't have to buy her a ring to
Speaker 2: prove his love.
Speaker 3: Well right by that ring? Like what went into that?
Speaker 2: Like that was a quick turnaround?
Speaker 5: Yeah, where was the money for that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looked like a carrot.
Speaker 5: That's not cheap. Maybe it was grandma's ring. We don't know.
Speaker 3: That's what I wanted to think of her though, like
Speaker 3: because it was just so out of the blue.
Speaker 2: It's so generic it was.
Speaker 3: And then a ring at the pawn shop next door,
Speaker 3: like what.
Speaker 5: It just was? Really?
Speaker 2: Like what then he asks her to marry him and
Speaker 2: she doesn't say yes, and she doesn't say no.
Speaker 4: She doesn't have to say yes right away.
Speaker 3: Like you just put it on.
Speaker 2: If you don't say yes right in a way, if
Speaker 2: they don't say yes right away, people, it's a no.
Speaker 2: It's like just remember that for the future. You're right,
Speaker 2: it really is if they have to think about it.
Speaker 3: Third ding against Brandon. He's okay with that. He knows
Speaker 3: that she says no, and he's like, well, whenever you
Speaker 3: decide to put it on, it's like, that's just like,
Speaker 3: really what he.
Speaker 4: Was doing, if I may say in college terms, he
Speaker 4: actually was pinning her because I don't think he either
Speaker 4: was ready to get engaged, but he wanted to be
Speaker 4: engaged to be engaged, So really he should have just
Speaker 4: gone to the sorority and pinned her.
Speaker 3: Or he could have said it was a commitment ring
Speaker 3: yeah or yeah.
Speaker 4: It feels like he wasn't ready either.
Speaker 2: And no to double down though, he invites her to
Speaker 2: move into his house when his parents want to.
Speaker 3: Go to Hong Kong, Like that sounds sexy.
Speaker 2: They're just gonna pretend to be married people in the
Speaker 2: old Walsh bedroom.
Speaker 3: Because that's where you want to be. Leave your beautiful
Speaker 3: beach apartment right.
Speaker 2: To go into Jim and Cindy's old pad. Also, I
Speaker 2: was at the point where I was like, wait, they're
Speaker 2: just gonna keep that house and let Brandon and vow
Speaker 2: live in it.
Speaker 4: Well, that's coming, that's you'll find out about that.
Speaker 3: That's next. The ranger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you find out the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so at the pea pad ray approaches value.
Speaker 4: People have asked you please not called that anymore. Just
Speaker 4: let me know what the people say. Oh okay, they
Speaker 4: want you to one with pea pad.
Speaker 2: Hyeez, thanks for letting me know. You could have shot
Speaker 2: me a text. You could have maybe emailed me that.
Speaker 2: No on the air. Why why don't they like me to?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: It irritates those.
Speaker 3: Are the irritates them.
Speaker 2: I'm sure That's not the only thing I do that
Speaker 2: irritates them. I'm just you know, I was trying to
Speaker 2: make a cute little thing. But if you guys don't
Speaker 2: like it, I will never say it again.
Speaker 4: I think that Look, a few people may not like it,
Speaker 4: but those that do like it maybe haven't spoken yet.
Speaker 4: So you do what feels right to you, and right
Speaker 4: pea pad is peach pit after dark.
Speaker 3: Okay. Wait, I gotta say something though, So if they're
Speaker 3: talking about it, they're talking about it, don't lose it, correct.
Speaker 5: They It definitely has made been question. Great point. Sorry,
Speaker 5: it's it's called branding.
Speaker 3: There you go. I don't like to discs and we
Speaker 3: wee pads did it ages ago? But you were next
Speaker 3: in line and now keep it pad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wherever wherever it is, you know that place.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Ray approaches Valerie to tell her that he is afraid
Speaker 2: David and Claire will spill the beans to Donna. Valerie
Speaker 2: tells him his personal life isn't her problem?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's just so classic.
Speaker 4: Also, can I say tons tons of people love Valerie?
Speaker 5: They are they are there in the comments, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, who doesn't. They always love the bad girl.
Speaker 2: They love that.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I'm still.
Speaker 4: Iffy on her iffy.
Speaker 2: Did you guys notice in this episode there were a
Speaker 2: number of very odd close up angles on most of
Speaker 2: the cast at some point innocent.
Speaker 4: Here's why I noticed it because I literally can see
Speaker 4: everyone's lipstick so much.
Speaker 3: It's just too close and even the boys dry lips.
Speaker 4: It was the scene where it was very prominent. I'm
Speaker 4: not sure we've discussed yet on the porch of the
Speaker 4: beach apartment with the two of you talking the lipstick.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I was like, who directed this and why are
Speaker 2: they so close up?
Speaker 3: But some of them I liked, Like some I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: it's intimate, it's great. I didn't like when I saw myself,
Speaker 3: but that it was done too because I'm paranoid about it,
Speaker 3: but like, very.
Speaker 4: Close, I could see in your eratry.
Speaker 3: Ew Oh good if that's what you were looking at
Speaker 3: in the fine.
Speaker 2: I forgot to say that when Val comes over to
Speaker 2: Kelly's room and just walks right in like she owns
Speaker 2: the place and talks to her like that, I would
Speaker 2: have beat that b I was like, who in hell
Speaker 2: does she think she is? This girl talking to Kelly
Speaker 2: Taylor like that?
Speaker 3: How'd she get in? Like everyone just walks in, Like
Speaker 3: the door is always unlocked.
Speaker 2: I guess we just leave it unlocked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not safe, considering there was a rapist that
Speaker 4: came in, but okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she just walks walks right in. You know what.
Speaker 2: I was watching this with Dave and he said to me,
Speaker 2: I am losing respect for you.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: He was confusing the characters like people do sometimes, and
Speaker 2: he was like, why would Kelly be kissing Brandon and Dylan?
Speaker 5: Many have that question?
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, many.
Speaker 4: Do, and so nonchalantly that's the thing, almost like it's okay, but.
Speaker 3: You guys, let's let's go back to when Kelly and
Speaker 3: Dylan were first together, and Brenda was there and they
Speaker 3: were just kissing Freeland on campus. Ye, Like, I feel
Speaker 3: like there's never with characters like uh oh, we got
Speaker 3: to try to I guess I know.
Speaker 5: Well, And you switched from Dylan to Brandon quite quickly.
Speaker 2: Also, I think that's the exciting part though, for the audience,
Speaker 2: for the viewers to be like, oh, they're gonna get caught.
Speaker 4: Someone's gonna see me, right, and we don't have to
Speaker 4: wait a long time for the next one.
Speaker 2: So we go back to the to the beach house
Speaker 2: and Kelly shows Donna her new engagement ring and tell
Speaker 2: l and her lipstick and tells her that Dylan has
Speaker 2: offered her a trip around the world. And Donna says,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't leave Brandon for a fling.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, why would Donna a fling? Though?
Speaker 2: Right, I thought the same thing.
Speaker 4: Well, Dylan is not as stable as Brandon, like that
Speaker 4: is correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but still her best friend in the whole world
Speaker 2: knows the complicated nature of that relationship the act, she
Speaker 2: would never call it a fling.
Speaker 4: Anywhow who, Tori, who do you think Donna really does
Speaker 4: want her?
Speaker 3: With? Knowing Donna probably Brandon.
Speaker 5: That's the impression I get, Jenny, is that your take?
Speaker 2: Probably?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just because she thinks it'll be like a better, safer,
Speaker 3: stable life for her.
Speaker 2: And and this is the scene too where Donna tells
Speaker 2: finally confides a little better. We see her confiding a
Speaker 2: little bit in Kelly about how her relationship with Ray
Speaker 2: is not feeling great.
Speaker 4: Yes, Kelly, this was actually a good.
Speaker 2: Scene, very good advice where she said go with your heart.
Speaker 3: Go here.
Speaker 2: I don't know, something totally lame that.
Speaker 3: Really doesn't help. First you tried, you said not to
Speaker 3: lose yourself, right, but then you did say go with
Speaker 3: your heart because you asked me and I said that
Speaker 3: I wanted to be with him. I don't know that
Speaker 3: I Kelly would never do that either. She'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: you're right, she wouldn't get away.
Speaker 2: From I don't like the way he treats you and
Speaker 2: get away from him. Yeah she would not.
Speaker 3: Kelly would never do that back, never have.
Speaker 4: It's actually a very good scene that if it was
Speaker 4: not shot so close up. Sorry there's a frog in
Speaker 4: my throat, But if it was shot so close up
Speaker 4: it would have been better.
Speaker 2: I didn't understand that.
Speaker 4: I don't know, actually hurt the scene, I don't want
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 3: Because you're talking focused on the words, You're like focused.
Speaker 5: On your lips and the.
Speaker 2: Makeup and the makeup and the pores and the like.
Speaker 2: It's just like I don't want to see that.
Speaker 4: It was, Yeah, I got very distracted from the actual
Speaker 4: like my parent bite, like the writing was quite good
Speaker 4: in that scene was like, yeah, but it was, and
Speaker 4: I sort of missed some of it. I watched it again.
Speaker 4: It's fine.
Speaker 2: Dylan comes over to see if Kelly has made up
Speaker 2: her mind because the playing leaves in four days, and
Speaker 2: that's when he spots the engagement ring and she said, oops,
Speaker 2: I forgot to take it off.
Speaker 4: Also, nobody's worried about finals. Brandon was like a tiny bit,
Speaker 4: but like, aren't y' all in finals and you're just
Speaker 4: dealing with like life's most dramatic situations.
Speaker 3: Fins can't choose when life happens.
Speaker 2: Oh, and of course Dylan and Kelly start making out
Speaker 2: there too.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's so weird.
Speaker 3: It's weird.
Speaker 4: Wait, I forgot to mention Brandon's awkward highlighting of the
Speaker 4: book during the awkward scene when Valerie just rips the
Speaker 4: band aid off and tell him tells him you're basically
Speaker 4: like going around the world with your ex boyfriend.
Speaker 3: He washa highlighting.
Speaker 4: He's just like bag highlighting.
Speaker 3: I was staring at her out but I wasn't a
Speaker 3: fan of that outfit. Which outfit?
Speaker 6: It was like the beige right, yeah, swe no vest
Speaker 6: I wish I wouldn't let it.
Speaker 3: No, it was like a was it ribbed? Remember when
Speaker 3: those wrens like a.
Speaker 4: Little they do.
Speaker 5: Put her in sort of some tan and it matches.
Speaker 3: I don't know the whole thing. I usually like her
Speaker 3: outfits a lot. I didn't love it. Sorry, I was
Speaker 3: focused on that.
Speaker 2: And then it's cute because Donn and Clara watching them
Speaker 2: from inside, it's funny. They're like, uh, really interested in
Speaker 2: what's happening out there.
Speaker 4: And Donna, oh yeah that was good?
Speaker 2: Yes, and then that was good tells Donna that she
Speaker 2: could do so much better than Ray and Donna gets
Speaker 2: defency what Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: Too focus on her brown lips.
Speaker 4: If you were Claire, would you tell her.
Speaker 3: Stick I didn't like that color?
Speaker 4: If she sorry, no, please go go because.
Speaker 3: She had a crush on Dylan. Who didn't who didn't?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: That was true?
Speaker 4: But if you were Claire and you know this guy sucks, Like,
Speaker 4: is Claire not being a good friend by not telling
Speaker 4: her like your dude sucks?
Speaker 2: She should tell her by now.
Speaker 5: Or an anonymous note, something.
Speaker 4: Like anonymous note or David needs to tell her. Somebody
Speaker 4: needs to say this guy.
Speaker 3: Oh, No, who tells her? No, one tells her.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: We're not there yet.
Speaker 2: Back at the wallsh House, Jim and Cindy tell Brandon
Speaker 2: and Valerie that they have decided they are going to
Speaker 2: move to Hong Kong.
Speaker 4: And how could they not for two and a half times?
Speaker 4: So the money is rich.
Speaker 3: Now money, it's the money, Cindy, okay with that, like
Speaker 3: moving across She's.
Speaker 4: Got her doctorate or whatever it is. Remember, they're like,
Speaker 4: she's got her master, she could teach classes, like all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, she's just.
Speaker 3: Like she only speaks English though.
Speaker 5: So random, but okay, it's not forever.
Speaker 2: And then Brandon just tells them nonchalantly that he's proposed
Speaker 2: to Kelly.
Speaker 5: I mean, that was totally bizarre, and of.
Speaker 2: Course Valerie is upset about that news. Then we go
Speaker 2: to the party. I guess it's a party.
Speaker 7: It was a seven art What it is?
Speaker 3: The question what vows? Like undying love for Dylan, Like
Speaker 3: that's over. She's just like focused on Brandon and that's
Speaker 3: not What is upsetting is that Kelly and Dylan might
Speaker 3: go away together. Everything about Dylan.
Speaker 4: I think she's in a real dither about all of it.
Speaker 4: If I may, I think she's just all pod.
Speaker 2: Yeah I would be too.
Speaker 3: I just want her to mention it though I wanted
Speaker 3: her to get gels.
Speaker 4: I feel like she's mentioning it in her face, Like
Speaker 4: we're seeing that in her face all the time.
Speaker 2: Just how yes, she's you can tell she's a little
Speaker 2: stressed about it all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a scow slash devil in there, and.
Speaker 3: She's just tired because she's saying for finals and working
Speaker 3: really hard.
Speaker 2: As a badass boss bitch at the peak.
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, now THEO goodbye lunch.
Speaker 2: This is yeah, this is the first of the goodbyes,
Speaker 2: and everybody's kind of gathered.
Speaker 4: Brought like macaroni salad to a fold out table in
Speaker 4: the quad in the middle of school.
Speaker 2: I mean, was that fun for her? Is she like that?
Speaker 3: Probably? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's blindfolded the blindfold that was exciting.
Speaker 2: Oh and they're Honda.
Speaker 5: That was their Honda looked like an accord.
Speaker 2: Right, but everybody's there, even missus t.
Speaker 4: That was yeah, that was like oh.
Speaker 2: And then Gil Gil Gil's back, who knows why. It's
Speaker 2: literally if you blink you miss him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know he always had that weird attraction thing
Speaker 4: that wasn't with Andrea, so I thought, oh.
Speaker 2: Remember, And of course Brian and Dylan were no shows.
Speaker 8: Yeah, which is just absolute unbelievable because that does there
Speaker 8: are her two besties, they're both coming, they're both coming,
Speaker 8: They're gonna suck it up.
Speaker 4: And then how about when she comes over and says,
Speaker 4: I know what's going on?
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 5: He told me, it's just.
Speaker 4: Like, oh my god, what's happening?
Speaker 2: And then Ray, oh, it's like a.
Speaker 4: That was the deal breaker for me in front of everyone.
Speaker 5: Every Thank you, Jenny.
Speaker 3: It was so Kelly Taylor's two polos this episode and
Speaker 3: then raise yellow polo? Did he borrow that from Kelly
Speaker 3: from one of the rollerblating scenes? What was going on?
Speaker 3: I was so solo?
Speaker 2: Who would wear a p I mean.
Speaker 3: You you wear polos twice in this episode?
Speaker 2: Are sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Good. I love polos. But this was Ray's lowest low
Speaker 4: for me, lower than the push, which was horrendous.
Speaker 3: What him wearing a yellow polo.
Speaker 4: Like him just being of everybody. It's embarrassing. He's violent,
Speaker 4: he's absolutely abusive.
Speaker 5: It's so bad.
Speaker 4: It's so bad. And also for some reason, I have
Speaker 4: that like diarrhea feeling when couples fight in public and
Speaker 4: I'm with an earshot where I can't handle that.
Speaker 2: Like wait, what's the diarrhea feeling?
Speaker 4: I just hate when couples are having a spat in public.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, God, like I don't feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 5: I'm so bad.
Speaker 4: And it's just like, Donna, you're back at your school.
Speaker 4: There's young, impressionable high schoolers seeing you crying like I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: you're right, Like I just hated it.
Speaker 2: Oh when she runs after him, somebody should have stopped her.
Speaker 2: They just stare at her. They just stare at her
Speaker 2: and let her run off. After this, I know, just.
Speaker 4: Say to him Sea and he and she's like no, right, no,
Speaker 4: like it's so.
Speaker 2: That like and then he's like, I'm so sick. I
Speaker 2: hurt you and you're spoiled rich friends. He's so venomous, like.
Speaker 4: And then he's like I won't be cough, like it's
Speaker 4: so awful.
Speaker 3: Well, she says, don't call me.
Speaker 4: I won't.
Speaker 5: Like it's so triggering and terrible that I'm like.
Speaker 3: This is because you know that feeling when like someone's
Speaker 3: doing that to you and you're like being and then
Speaker 3: a panic and then you just get pushed. So you're
Speaker 3: just like, fine, don't call me, and then they're like
Speaker 3: I won't and you're like, no, I didn't mean it.
Speaker 4: It goes from begging. It's like there is there's that
Speaker 4: fine line between begging and then like fine, Like it's.
Speaker 3: Just so I wonder it's take her two little pink
Speaker 3: baby breads off and like throw him at him. She walked.
Speaker 2: I would have been a good start.
Speaker 4: This is the pink skirt with a white crop polo.
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, well you were wearing a polo too.
Speaker 3: Oh ah.
Speaker 4: There's no coming back for me with Ray. He is done.
Speaker 4: He is here.
Speaker 2: This is the last time we see him in this episode.
Speaker 3: Correct, I didn't know where you're going with that, Like.
Speaker 5: He'll be back.
Speaker 4: No, he sucks. Yeah, like they wrote him really really sucky,
Speaker 4: and watching it now.
Speaker 5: Is just like awful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like now going back, like we all know what
Speaker 3: you know, no spoilers, but what ends up happening. But
Speaker 3: you know, in years the writers still saying the producers
Speaker 3: are like, oh, we wanted to then make him redeemable.
Speaker 4: That was happen.
Speaker 3: But now watching it back from this point, like you're like, ah,
Speaker 3: you couldn't have gone back.
Speaker 4: You could never redeem this guy. And the craziest thing
Speaker 4: is he joins he's in the opening credits. Next season,
Speaker 4: it freaking blows my name. They make him.
Speaker 5: A regular on the next seat.
Speaker 3: He could.
Speaker 4: Yes, he is a regular in the starting credits, and
Speaker 4: it's like, this guy, you.
Speaker 5: Have made him.
Speaker 2: He really shouldn't have been in the opening credits. I'm
Speaker 2: going to say that right now.
Speaker 5: Because he's worse than Valerie and.
Speaker 2: Because he's he's abusive physically and mentally abusive. Valerie is
Speaker 2: just a dirty, rotten scoundrel.
Speaker 4: But but he's got.
Speaker 5: Bad.
Speaker 3: But you could see like how we so often are
Speaker 3: like you know, Jenny, Kelly, Tory, Donna, Like you could
Speaker 3: see how people were like Ray Jamie, and it's like
Speaker 3: further thing that's like the opposite, like the kindest human
Speaker 3: and so that is unfortunate.
Speaker 5: That's such a good point.
Speaker 4: It's like knowing that makes me want to revive his career,
Speaker 4: although I hear he's quite happy as a.
Speaker 5: Fireman, so it doesn't matter. But its empty pardon me
Speaker 5: emt but.
Speaker 3: Still getting defense.
Speaker 5: It also makes me Donna would chase after him. That's
Speaker 5: so Donna, and I'm like, Donna, stop it.
Speaker 2: I think she's gonna learn. Ultimately, does Donna learn in
Speaker 2: the series?
Speaker 4: But find out well, obviously, like she marries she has
Speaker 4: a no, she doesn't remember the wedding anyway. Nope, Okay,
Speaker 4: that's amazing.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay. So we go to the wash house
Speaker 2: and again Valerie is trying to convince Brandon that Kelly
Speaker 2: has manipulated him and she's stringing him along, and she
Speaker 2: tells Brandon that she hopes Kelly chooses Dylan because he
Speaker 2: deserves better.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just gag me.
Speaker 2: I mean it could be a true statement, yes, but.
Speaker 5: She's like making a move for Brandon, which is so creepy.
Speaker 3: But only because Dylan didn't want her.
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine Brandon and.
Speaker 3: Steve want Valerie together. Steve gets no one and wants everyone.
Speaker 2: He'll get someone. Don't worry, Okay, I remember that but
Speaker 2: I honestly didn't disagree with val in this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, her words are true.
Speaker 2: Here we are back at the beach house and Kelly
Speaker 2: and Donna are having a heart to heart and Donna's
Speaker 2: complaining about how selfish Ray is, and Kelly says Brandon
Speaker 2: and Dylan are both selfish in their own ways. Too interesting.
Speaker 4: Take.
Speaker 3: Didn't we already go through the scene.
Speaker 2: I feel like we did.
Speaker 4: But that's okay, we didn't touch on that. I'm glad
Speaker 4: you brought that part important. Yeah, I'm glad you brought
Speaker 4: that up.
Speaker 2: And then Kelly does dispense some you know, usable advice.
Speaker 2: She says, don't lose yourself, which is what happens in
Speaker 2: these kinds of relationships.
Speaker 3: Any relationship. It's so hard. I thought for a young gal.
Speaker 3: It was very like inspirational that Kelly and evolved, that
Speaker 3: Kelly was able to see that both the men that
Speaker 3: she loves that they're selfish. And yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's a really cool thing what she's
Speaker 3: saying right now, because as you can see, Donna just
Speaker 3: defends her men, but you are, like mine, have some
Speaker 3: moments that are not so great too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's well said.
Speaker 4: And it was a good take that Kelly was a
Speaker 4: too astutely ascertain m hmm, I mean.
Speaker 2: I do I agree with you. I feel proud somehow
Speaker 2: that Kelly was taking this time to really weigh, you know,
Speaker 2: whether she was kissing both of them or not. She
Speaker 2: was really trying to make the right decision and she
Speaker 2: was really considering it. And also, yeah, yeah, very self
Speaker 2: aware and aware to see that they're both so selfish
Speaker 2: right now. They're both trying to get her and they
Speaker 2: don't really care about her. I want to win the challenge?
Speaker 4: Are they trying to win?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great, great point. Yes, I mean I
Speaker 3: do believe they both love her, but in this moment,
Speaker 3: it's ego and pride that's taking over. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So this is the final goodbye for Andrea and Jesse
Speaker 2: the peach pit, where the whole crew surprises her to
Speaker 2: say one last goodbye.
Speaker 4: And this did not feel like Andrea was saying goodbye.
Speaker 4: This to me was Gabrielle saying goodbye.
Speaker 3: Correct, hmm.
Speaker 5: Didn't nobody thinks.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was mixed because I I could feel
Speaker 2: just from my watching me in that scene, I felt
Speaker 2: like I was feeling like, oh no, gaps leaving and
Speaker 2: I don't like this.
Speaker 3: Didn't you feel like that? Everybody was like, this is
Speaker 3: so sad. I definitely cried personal I cried.
Speaker 4: I did two.
Speaker 5: I did too. I cried too.
Speaker 2: M she drives away and she has flashbacks of all
Speaker 2: her memories of West Bevererly.
Speaker 7: God, but we to talk about each individual goodbye, each
Speaker 7: individual kiss the kiss.
Speaker 4: So when you guys are watching that, we were like,
Speaker 4: oh wow, she's a real lip kisser.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we already knew that.
Speaker 4: But I think it started with a nat kiss and
Speaker 4: that kind of was like, oh wow, okay, all right,
Speaker 4: and then the kisses went all the way around.
Speaker 2: All around. Yep, well that's how you say goodbye in
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. Then, oh, you guys. I saw Mark Espinoza
Speaker 2: at a a thing at the mission where we were
Speaker 2: serving food together him. Yes, we were amazing serving cobbler together,
Speaker 2: like dishing out cherry cobbler and I he looked amazing. No,
Speaker 2: I'll get to that. First of all, I walk up
Speaker 2: to him like this clothes, I'm like hi, and he
Speaker 2: looks at me, has no idea who I am, no one,
Speaker 2: And I was like, Hi, Hello, hello Mark I and
Speaker 2: literally I was like, it's me Jenny.
Speaker 3: He literally took his glasses on.
Speaker 2: You didn't believe me, then put his glasses on, and
Speaker 2: then he was.
Speaker 3: Like, oh no, no, no, I.
Speaker 2: Swhere that happened.
Speaker 4: You look exactly the same.
Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't matter. He didn't recognize me. So for
Speaker 2: the rest of our our time slot there in the cobbler,
Speaker 2: I kept accident like probably eight.
Speaker 4: Times, and I liked that you were serving cobbler though.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wait, first I was serving cobbler with.
Speaker 3: Color Feldman.
Speaker 4: What do you tell what other celebrities were there?
Speaker 2: This is iron Zering.
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, tell me about Corey Feldman.
Speaker 2: I was okay, first it was me and Corey Feldman.
Speaker 2: I got there and Corey was already serving the cobbler.
Speaker 3: And did you recognize him?
Speaker 4: Did he know you? Of course?
Speaker 2: And I they were like you you help out Corey
Speaker 2: in this cobbler section. I was like, okay, hi, Corey,
Speaker 2: It's I'm Jenny and it was awkward and he was like,
Speaker 2: oh hey. Then he gave me a hug and introduced yourself.
Speaker 3: Everyone in the whole world knows who you are.
Speaker 2: But when you're upsetting you that look they're they like
Speaker 2: they don't recognize you. I get really nervous and then
Speaker 2: I have to like compensate.
Speaker 3: That's like an ego thing when people do that. He
Speaker 3: was so nice, so nice. Okay, he's nice.
Speaker 5: He's nice.
Speaker 2: He is so nice. He is very unique that he's
Speaker 2: a very unique individual, and he was extremely pleasant to
Speaker 2: everybody there. So it was a very very big year coming.
Speaker 4: There's a very viral about his music. Was it about
Speaker 4: his music? A lot?
Speaker 2: He's got a lot coming out.
Speaker 4: Viral documentaries.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jerry O'Connell and Corey singing stand by me on
Speaker 5: the Talk.
Speaker 4: It's worth a watch.
Speaker 2: He's real sweet and he has a really nice son too,
Speaker 2: who was Oh yeah, it was fun anyhow, Sorry we
Speaker 2: have gone off topic.
Speaker 5: No, it's all good bit of trivia.
Speaker 4: Corey Fulman was one of in one of the Friday
Speaker 4: the Thirteenth story.
Speaker 3: Okays, Tommy, Tommy Jurgons and then in the next one
Speaker 3: he's older.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yep, yeah, yeah, I'm glad you know. Okay, Jenny,
Speaker 4: back to the the moment we've all been waiting for.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, I want to tell you more. He
Speaker 2: was for some reason we got talking about the quiet
Speaker 2: on the set documentary. Oh no way, So this is
Speaker 2: like yesterday, this is all while serving the cobblers.
Speaker 4: What was this for Easter?
Speaker 5: When were you?
Speaker 2: And he was saying that he had had he had
Speaker 2: made a documentary back in the nineties and there was
Speaker 2: some very similar content. Yeah, and that people the powers
Speaker 2: that be shut it down and didn't release his documentary.
Speaker 2: Yeah what was in his documentary? And I was like,
Speaker 2: that has got to come out?
Speaker 4: Did he name names? M tell me later? I need
Speaker 4: to know later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So hopefully that documentary will come out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Is he planning on it coming out?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to see that. He's probably seen Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's seen that ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, sorry sorry sorry back to that was
Speaker 2: worth it.
Speaker 5: And just so you know, the people like our tangents,
Speaker 5: so don't you worry about that.
Speaker 3: Mark Damon Espinosa might not like this one, but you know.
Speaker 5: But bravo for everybody helping out on Easter. That makes
Speaker 5: me so happy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys. Here's the thing though, this is his
Speaker 3: final appearance ever, so we didn't know again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I know how they end up. Wait, what
Speaker 4: you don't know what happens with Jesse and Andrea.
Speaker 3: Oh that's still coming. I thought I'm missing.
Speaker 4: Well she comes back. So no, No, Andrea comes back
Speaker 4: a couple of times, and we learn they eventually they
Speaker 4: do get divorced. I don't want to ruin it.
Speaker 2: They're so happy right now in their Honda on the
Speaker 2: way to you know.
Speaker 4: I know they're really in love now, but it does
Speaker 4: not last summer ever. Now the moment we've all been
Speaker 4: waiting for.
Speaker 2: Yes, Jane and the lips that, but that's your moment.
Speaker 4: Look. I look deep into that, and I was like,
Speaker 4: do I see it? Do I see it?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: I do?
Speaker 3: You saw it?
Speaker 4: I see that they have a they could have worked.
Speaker 5: It could have worked.
Speaker 3: You still maintain that in the peach.
Speaker 4: I will maintain.
Speaker 5: That, Thank you, Tori.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, despite people disagreed.
Speaker 3: With you on some level, I was just wondering, you
Speaker 3: saw it today today, this episode. Yeah, I did in
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2: Dude, Wait, do you said people in the real world
Speaker 2: agree with you that they really do?
Speaker 4: They care for my take? Yeah? No, the majority.
Speaker 3: There might be a couple and I get in trouble
Speaker 3: for agreeing with you.
Speaker 4: No, they don't take it back. You're just you're being
Speaker 4: a nice friend. They really understand it's my take, and they.
Speaker 2: Do not thumbs down on that one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they think I'm an idiot, but I stand on.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm not backing down.
Speaker 2: I say, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do with Pepad
Speaker 2: then I'm not going to back down saying it because
Speaker 2: of you. You've inspired me. Aby Yeah, okay. So everyone
Speaker 2: scatters off and it's left with Kelly. Oh the funniest thing.
Speaker 4: That was a slow scattering yeah.
Speaker 2: And Steve's is standing there and he's like, what does
Speaker 2: he say something?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go turn in paper, probably not gonna get
Speaker 4: me as good of a grade.
Speaker 2: But literally no one is listening and no one responds,
Speaker 2: and he just walks off.
Speaker 5: Nobody cares.
Speaker 4: Was waiting for like one of the biggest moments in
Speaker 4: the show's history, and he's just got to get out
Speaker 4: of the scene with his term paper.
Speaker 3: Yeah yep.
Speaker 2: So Kelly says, hey, guys, can I talk to you?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 2: And they both look bent out of shape when she
Speaker 2: asks them to talk, like like they don't want to talk,
Speaker 2: which was a little weird. I mean, one of them
Speaker 2: just ask her and marry and the other ones it's
Speaker 2: just weird the way they're acting.
Speaker 5: Like they're so baby.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you think they're just nervous that they're gonna get
Speaker 3: turned down?
Speaker 4: I guess she tells Bachelor too. It's such a Bachelor
Speaker 4: moment because you've got them both there together with their
Speaker 4: roses and you're like, who's gonna get it?
Speaker 2: And that dress, the long black dress with the flowers.
Speaker 3: Oh nice?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And immediately the scene's iconic because I've watched it
Speaker 4: five hundred times on TikTok, so you know exactly what's happening.
Speaker 2: Yep. She tells Brandon that she can't accept the ring,
Speaker 2: and she tells and he so he starts to turn away, Yeah, rejected,
Speaker 2: and then she says wait and she tells she can't
Speaker 2: go on the trip with him, and that's when she says,
Speaker 2: I've made my choice. I choose me.
Speaker 4: Oh. It is the most dramatic Bachelor finale ever. I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: They should do that.
Speaker 4: They should do that.
Speaker 5: Somebody up there should just be like and right, Brad
Speaker 5: Womack did that.
Speaker 2: But it was the first I mean, that was the
Speaker 2: moment that I didn't didn't even really understand that. I
Speaker 2: remember Jessica Klein, who wrote the line, talking to me
Speaker 2: about it beforehand because I was like, I don't know
Speaker 2: about this line. Seems weird and I didn't feel comfortable
Speaker 2: saying it because it was such an it was so definite, you.
Speaker 5: Know, and it was Yeah, it's very unique.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know where she came up with it, but
Speaker 2: it was pretty Yeah. It was a pretty important moment
Speaker 2: in the development of Kelly. And I think it was
Speaker 2: the first time that a lot of young girls who
Speaker 2: were growing up with the show and watching the show realized, whoa, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Kelly just chose her. I can choose myself, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I think that's why it's resonated so much with
Speaker 2: so many people.
Speaker 4: It's very ahead of its time.
Speaker 5: If it was today, it's much more of course. Back then,
Speaker 5: I think it was so like whoa, we didn't.
Speaker 3: Know how to choose ourselves back then that it even
Speaker 3: was a choice.
Speaker 2: And especially with the two hottest dudes around town.
Speaker 5: Exactly, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2: I literally was like, oh, no, is this the right choice?
Speaker 2: This is very I don't know about this.
Speaker 5: It's prolific the right word, it's very prolific.
Speaker 1: It's very like, wow, oh yeah, and it just really
Speaker 1: it seems so scary too watch yeah it to be
Speaker 1: so definite about something and so standing your ground in
Speaker 1: front of these two guys who are both trying to woo.
Speaker 5: Her, and it sticks with you.
Speaker 4: I definitely thought about it after then, and now like
Speaker 4: you're like, oh wow.
Speaker 2: And that's crazy too, because you know, we meet fans
Speaker 2: all the time and they talk to us about their
Speaker 2: favorite episodes and their favorite outfits and their favorite lines.
Speaker 2: And Donna Martin graduates for Tori, and it's always I
Speaker 2: choose me for me. And I have women now that
Speaker 2: are like that say that, Like I was watching the
Speaker 2: show and that gave me the strength and the courage
Speaker 2: to say I could choose myself.
Speaker 5: And I have amazing at.
Speaker 2: The cons, Like I have one woman who got I
Speaker 2: Choose Me tattooed on her arm right here while I
Speaker 2: was watching at the oh wow, oh wow.
Speaker 3: While you were watching.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, she had me write it on her arm,
Speaker 2: sweetest lady, and I do have good writing. I didn't
Speaker 2: do it very good though. It was some of my
Speaker 2: worst handwriting. And then I got word that she was
Speaker 2: over at the tattoo booths. Apparently they have tattoo booths. Wow,
Speaker 2: he's calmed sometimes and she was getting at tattooed. So
Speaker 2: I went over there and held her hand. Oh, and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm sorry, that's not very nice handwriting.
Speaker 4: But she did you realize like, was it after it
Speaker 4: aired that it was a big deal or was it
Speaker 4: years later that you're like, oh wow?
Speaker 2: I really think it was years later that it truly
Speaker 2: resonated me. And it wasn't even until recently when I
Speaker 2: was like exploring that idea of like going back to
Speaker 2: move forward, you know, and like embracing all the things
Speaker 2: in my life in my past, the experiences of that
Speaker 2: that I've had the big moments like thinking about that
Speaker 2: stuff in order to move me forward, because so often
Speaker 2: people want to move forward and they don't want to
Speaker 2: deal with their past. They don't want to associate with
Speaker 2: their past. They want to move on and be something
Speaker 2: new and be something different. But I was like, I
Speaker 2: really love, you know, so many things in my past,
Speaker 2: Like I want to embrace some of them and bring
Speaker 2: them into my future. So this was one of those
Speaker 2: things that really came through for me. And then I
Speaker 2: just started talking about it more and more and like,
Speaker 2: you know, doing what I can to get this message
Speaker 2: out there too. Girls, women, guys, anyone that choosing yourself
Speaker 2: is an option.
Speaker 4: Feels like it would be wonderful if you could give
Speaker 4: the message to Donna. And I wonder if that's if you.
Speaker 3: Could give the message to Toy right now.
Speaker 2: Oh, I give it to you all the time you do,
Speaker 2: she does, mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Choose your feels intentional that she's so in the opposite
Speaker 4: you mean Donna, Yeah, that Donna. In this episode there's
Speaker 4: this scene where she is so not choosing herself.
Speaker 2: But I don't know that it ever comes back for Donna.
Speaker 5: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: No, not like, not like as momentous as it does
Speaker 4: in this episode.
Speaker 2: For you in myself weird or crazy or maybe a
Speaker 2: little unstable.
Speaker 3: But I was.
Speaker 2: After I say I've made my choice, I choose me,
Speaker 2: I say, but I'll love you both till the day
Speaker 2: I die.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that line too, Yes, And I was.
Speaker 3: Like, that.
Speaker 2: Is so true for Kelly, but that was also so
Speaker 2: true for me for Jenny. Like of those two men
Speaker 2: in front of me that I'd worked with for five
Speaker 2: years now and loved so much in each in different ways,
Speaker 2: you know, like definitely, you feel the same way. We'll
Speaker 2: love each other till the day we die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of us so true.
Speaker 2: Even if we don't you know, jibe, or we're not
Speaker 2: getting along or whatever, it is, like there's still that
Speaker 2: core of like love and connection that can never.
Speaker 3: Be called trauma bond.
Speaker 4: No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: I had to take a nice moment.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you bring that up, Jenny, because that line
Speaker 4: is not as famous as the I Choose Me, But
Speaker 4: I love that line.
Speaker 3: And did you add that line or is that written?
Speaker 5: Oh, that's a great question.
Speaker 3: I can picture you adding that.
Speaker 5: Oh, that's such a good question.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That might have come out of the discussion of me
Speaker 2: feeling out like this is such a bold statement.
Speaker 5: Oh, that gives me chills.
Speaker 2: Maybe that was something that they added to sort of
Speaker 2: like take the sting off of that line. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: And everybody was encouraging her one way or the other.
Speaker 2: You know, Donna was saying, go be a Brandon, yeah, uh,
Speaker 2: Andrea was saying get the brass ring.
Speaker 3: Jesse said, choose the cobbler.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, it's just it's a great moment.
Speaker 2: In the in the history of the show, and I
Speaker 2: was very, very proud and honored to be a part
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a real, real high for the show.
Speaker 5: It's really good.
Speaker 3: It almost mean I don't want to say it, but
Speaker 3: like as soon as I heard that line, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: those are That's like, that's one of our most iconic
Speaker 3: lines ever. Like what happens now? Where do we go
Speaker 3: from here? Is there are there any others left? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're saying, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I also felt like this was such a high
Speaker 2: for the show. And then I also felt that like
Speaker 2: what's gonna what where do we go now? Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: if she's not with Brandon or she's not with Dylan,
Speaker 2: am I gonna want to watch this?
Speaker 3: Like you No, you're not because you're not.
Speaker 4: Some people are like, yeah, because you make some bad calls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of boyfriends coming up, and.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see what happens. I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: we'll see.
Speaker 4: But this was a very crescendo of the series.
Speaker 3: So did it jump the shark?
Speaker 5: After the most people think it's one more season.
Speaker 4: Until it jumps the show?
Speaker 3: One more six is okay? What defines that season that
Speaker 3: makes it it lasted another?
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's a great question. I think we're
Speaker 4: gonna have to analyze it.
Speaker 2: And that we will. We will analyze it.
Speaker 4: Bravo to both of you in this episode, because both
Speaker 4: of you had major stuff, very opposite but really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think this is a good episode. Did you
Speaker 2: guys want to rate.
Speaker 3: It at all?
Speaker 5: It's obviously ten?
Speaker 2: Ten?
Speaker 3: Yeah, obvious really is always will be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, Torri always will be where some of
Speaker 4: them ebb and flow or you change your mind over
Speaker 4: the years. This is a real ten.
Speaker 3: But it's a two parter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's more to come.
Speaker 2: There's more to come.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is the next part the season finale?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Oh oh okay, so but wait the next episode? Season five,
Speaker 2: episode thirty one ps I Love You Part one?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, So we have two more.
Speaker 3: Two more episodes, you guys, I'm sorry, but I think
Speaker 3: this season should have ended here. Yeah yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 3: ended on Kelly's line, like that's it for the season. Boom,
Speaker 3: go out on the high note. Now I'm confused. What's happening? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 3: so what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: To see, like, what's going to be the season finale?
Speaker 2: The Walshes leave, Well, everybody do your homework watch episode
Speaker 2: five Nope, Season five, episode thirty one ps I Love
Speaker 2: You Part one and we will talk about it next
Speaker 2: week