WEBVTT - I Choose Me

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<v Speaker 1>It's nine o one with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, you guys, this is

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<v Speaker 2>another episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Not just another episode. This is the episode. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a this is a big Kelly Taylor episode. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of kissing going on.

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<v Speaker 4>I have comments.

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<v Speaker 2>You have so many comments. Wait do you want you

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<v Speaker 2>want to give your comments now?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, no, wait, Johan take order.

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<v Speaker 4>I have two that will hook people in listening. Hook

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<v Speaker 4>on Tory slash Donna. I'm real sick of that ass. Ray,

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<v Speaker 4>WTF you need to get away from him?

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<v Speaker 2>Sing it sista Jenny slash Kelly. Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>What is going on that.

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<v Speaker 4>You have a boyfriend named Brandon and you are fully,

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<v Speaker 4>fully making out with Dylan Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so scared for you. I was like, what

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<v Speaker 3>if someone comes by then knows you guys, what.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's Papa Razzi on that beach?

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<v Speaker 3>She wouldn't even.

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<v Speaker 4>Really feel bad or weird or awkward about it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it felt natch, felt so natched. I just did it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Kelly just did it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes in life you just have to go with it.

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<v Speaker 3>You were in the moments.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, two things that need to really be addressed.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to address them. Because this is season five,

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<v Speaker 2>episode thirty, Hello Life, Goodbye Beverly Hills. It aired May seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety five.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Big Sweets synopsis. It's the ultimatum herd

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<v Speaker 3>around the world. Kelly is forced to choose between the

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<v Speaker 3>bling bling of Brandon's ring and a ticket to Paradise

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<v Speaker 3>with Dylan McKay. Ooh. Meanwhile, Jim and Cindy are leaving

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<v Speaker 3>for Hong Kong, and Andre leaves the she once knew

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<v Speaker 3>and Donna starting to realize Ray's abusive behavior is really

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<v Speaker 3>taking a toll.

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<v Speaker 4>Just starting to realize.

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<v Speaker 2>Directed by James Whitmore, Junior, I have things to say

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<v Speaker 2>about that and written by the beautiful Jessica Kleine and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit by Steve Osterman. Writing good, very good, writing,

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<v Speaker 2>very memorable, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, where to begin? Go through it all?

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<v Speaker 5>I have one more thing I really want to address.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your third thing? You'd like to address?

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<v Speaker 4>Him? Andrea kissing everyone on the lips?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, Hi, herpees and COVID, herpees.

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<v Speaker 3>And COVID, So I got this that was pre COVID.

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<v Speaker 3>What was that? SARS? What was that back then?

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<v Speaker 2>That was herpes, herpes and more herpes.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, so many lips to say we get

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<v Speaker 3>through ten years unscathed. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. And Nona Arenda had herpes and she

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<v Speaker 2>kissed me all the time. I don't know how I

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<v Speaker 2>made it.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's just jump back to.

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<v Speaker 4>You buy Vale Tres.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you could send some over please, thanks. Episode

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<v Speaker 2>recap what we're starting in a weird foreign place for

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<v Speaker 2>and get it. And I didn't know what was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you did it. We're starting at

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<v Speaker 2>the travel agency where Dylan is buying a romantic vacation

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<v Speaker 2>package for two and the second person is Kelly Taylor.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought maybe it was going to be doctor Molly Campbell.

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<v Speaker 4>Wasn't presumptuous, so presumptuous things.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what a travel agent? Do you guys know her?

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<v Speaker 3>She's somebody? No, I mean, well we're all somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know who the travel agent was, but a great.

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<v Speaker 3>Question went on to become someone.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have her on my list of guest stars.

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<v Speaker 4>Seems expensive for a whim too, because he doesn't know

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<v Speaker 4>you're coming, and usually that stuff's not refundable.

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<v Speaker 2>How expensive? Yeah, a trip around the world never been

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<v Speaker 2>then back then? Well, how expensive is one? Now I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to know.

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<v Speaker 5>One hundred grand, now fifty grand.

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<v Speaker 4>Then that's just my absolutely not hire a good guess.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it takes ten grand to go to Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean so higher, so higher. Yeah, one hundred grand,

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<v Speaker 4>then two hundred grand, now three hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Do I hear three hundred I'll take it for five

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<v Speaker 3>hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>He has four millions, so he doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I would advise him to start caring because your four

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars is going to go pretty quick. If he's

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<v Speaker 2>spend a night like.

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<v Speaker 3>This, it feels like an episode of Cribs. It's going

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<v Speaker 3>to go fast.

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<v Speaker 2>He needs to make some investments.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I gotta go. Well, he thinks he's making

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<v Speaker 3>an investment in the future, Great, hand him over to me.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think you know you are his investment in

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<v Speaker 3>the future.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's still a kid living on a prayer.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, so we don't we don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>he's thinking. But we're going to go ahead and go

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<v Speaker 2>onto the Walls house where Jim gets a phone call

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<v Speaker 2>and he's so blown away by this off of this

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<v Speaker 2>offer that he got of a promotion and a two

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<v Speaker 2>and a half time raise.

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<v Speaker 4>Seriously, that's a big raise. Let's think about that. What

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<v Speaker 4>do we think Jim's making right now? Too hundy?

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<v Speaker 5>And now he's gonna be making six hundy.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, he was not making two hundred thousand dollars a

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<v Speaker 2>year in nineteen ninety five.

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<v Speaker 4>That seems too high.

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<v Speaker 2>Your numbers are off.

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<v Speaker 3>To It does seem high. But they live in Beverly

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<v Speaker 3>Hills in the flats.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he doesn't even pay for that house. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a company expense because they moved.

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<v Speaker 3>Him there, remember, Yeah, and we know what corporate housing

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<v Speaker 3>looks like. Just like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they just gave him a little, a little help.

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<v Speaker 4>They probably don't for the moving truck.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's definitely making a lot more.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you see Brandon like, hey, I loved it and

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<v Speaker 5>then he's all stop stop.

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<v Speaker 2>That was cute the way they were doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jim looks real tired in that scene. He looks tired.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been stressed, you guys, this is fair. He thought

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<v Speaker 2>he was getting the act. You really did, But no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>he is moving to Hong Kong. That's like crazy did

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<v Speaker 2>you guys hear the completely inappropriate music they played when

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<v Speaker 2>they mentioned the Hong Kong?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh jeez, I missed that.

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<v Speaker 4>But do you guys remember though, like, did they want

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<v Speaker 4>to leave? Was there?

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<v Speaker 3>What did they want to on a hit series? They

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<v Speaker 3>were like, please let us here?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so this was they were asked too.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't seem like yeah, sorry, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, my first note was yay at the Walshes.

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<v Speaker 2>I love seeing them. I love seeing them in their kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>I love seeing her cook, I love seeing him walk

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<v Speaker 2>in his suspenders. I don't know what I wou.

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<v Speaker 4>Without it, I would have kept them around.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was the last episode for No, this is

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<v Speaker 2>not their last episode.

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<v Speaker 5>Next week and then.

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<v Speaker 4>They do come back is next week? No, it's sort

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<v Speaker 4>of part two.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, when's the party?

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<v Speaker 5>The house is for sale? That's not that's all next week.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a party in this episode, though, like we

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<v Speaker 2>had two parties.

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<v Speaker 3>She had parties. I know, I got a little sick

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<v Speaker 3>of them. I'm not gonna lie. I wanted to keep

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<v Speaker 3>seeing her, but I was like they could have done

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<v Speaker 3>something a little more fresh.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't understand why there were more than one party.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, why was that?

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<v Speaker 4>What? There was your party? Oh no, pardon me.

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<v Speaker 5>There was the school party. There was the actual.

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<v Speaker 4>Peach pit we're driving away moment. That wasn't exactly a party.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the after dark what about hmm, there wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>party inside the peach pit. That's when they were there

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<v Speaker 2>was That was.

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<v Speaker 4>The goodbye So I wouldn't know if I'd call that

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<v Speaker 4>a party. They were picking up their breakfast to go

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<v Speaker 4>it was. It was there for the lip kisses.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, I mean or on nine o two zero

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<v Speaker 3>as we reference it, it's a party because yeah, everyone

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<v Speaker 3>in the same spot. It's a party. Saves money. Cool.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that they went back to West, which we'll

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<v Speaker 5>talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's get back to it. You guys the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>We go from Hong Kong to the beach where Kelly

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<v Speaker 2>is hanging out with Dylan. First of all, not real

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<v Speaker 2>good at that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh see, you were being harsh on yourself. I was

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<v Speaker 3>super impressed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I thought you were good.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, oh, she's gonna fall, and then she did.

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<v Speaker 5>Were you a rollerblader at the time, Who.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't It was the mid nineties. Everybody rollerbladed on that

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<v Speaker 2>very piece of land right on that strip, right in

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<v Speaker 2>front of that beach apartment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was real. Then I got nervous when they

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<v Speaker 3>showed you because you were going slow, but then it

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<v Speaker 3>looked like it went from your POV and you're going

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<v Speaker 3>real fast.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was out of control pretty much. But thank god,

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan catches me and falls under me so perfectly.

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<v Speaker 5>In a romantic public moment for a girl who has

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<v Speaker 5>a boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>For everyone to see.

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<v Speaker 3>That was weird, though, like cohesive because I can picture

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<v Speaker 3>you and I know you, and you were probably laughing

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<v Speaker 3>and wanting to be aggressive because you're being funny, and

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<v Speaker 3>it could have ended a different way.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that was one of those situations where

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, how are we going.

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<v Speaker 5>To do this?

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<v Speaker 2>We should work it out. I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be good or not, and what if

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<v Speaker 2>I get hurt? And Luke was like just roll the

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<v Speaker 2>camera yeah, and then he's like, just skate towards me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll catch it over.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, now you're gonna catch me, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it worked out. She falls, They start making out,

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<v Speaker 2>and Dylan surprises her with the trip the tickets that

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<v Speaker 2>he looked that is. It's weird because it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 2>that shocking or surprising to Kelly.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, it's very odd.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very odd.

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<v Speaker 3>She's playing it cool. I mean, how she's supposed to react.

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<v Speaker 2>But she, well shouldn't she say, Oh, I'm dating Brandon.

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<v Speaker 4>This is weird.

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<v Speaker 3>I just couldn't stop staring at how beautiful you looked.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't care what was coming out of your mouth.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just like, ah, I would like to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about how At the time, I also didn't think it

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<v Speaker 4>was weird, and then now I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye. Well, at the time you were just like oho,

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<v Speaker 2>well was she supposed to be like different?

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<v Speaker 4>Woo?

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<v Speaker 2>And such good kisses? I'm really those I felt those kisses.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean for you. I felt those kisses for you.

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<v Speaker 2>How many years later is it now?

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty two?

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty No?

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, twenty nine, sorry, nine, twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels weird, yeah, twenty nine years.

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<v Speaker 4>Later, twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not great at math.

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<v Speaker 2>Still gives me the feels.

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<v Speaker 3>We've learned that today.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, can I go to a limb that you and

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<v Speaker 4>Luke or Kelly and Dylan have a hint more sexual

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<v Speaker 4>chemistry than Kelly and Brandon.

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<v Speaker 2>Duh.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, saying, Okay, I'm just saying I don't mean to

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<v Speaker 5>be captain obvious.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say no. But I think they

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<v Speaker 2>both have good you know stuff there that's just different.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you should marry him right now, Dylan, because

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<v Speaker 4>you should marry Brandon.

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<v Speaker 5>He's more stable.

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<v Speaker 3>Too young, well too.

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<v Speaker 5>Young, of course, we're getting out of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's let's go to the peach pit where Ray dude,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy being his usual d bag self.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you sure I feel like it? This episode took

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<v Speaker 3>a drastic turn. Oh, to prove a point.

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<v Speaker 4>He's hideous in this episode, but it goes.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he's been a little douchey, but like he.

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<v Speaker 5>He pushed you, and he pushed you in the motel room.

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<v Speaker 5>This guy sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>They know what's coming now. The writers are fine. They're like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what the next episode is going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta get to it.

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<v Speaker 4>If this was now, everybody would be like, get away

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<v Speaker 4>from him.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And like I think at the time, we were like, oh, Ray,

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<v Speaker 5>it's kind of cool. What the hell was wrong with me?

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<v Speaker 4>That guy sucks so bad?

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<v Speaker 2>But you can tell that Donna really is seeing it now,

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<v Speaker 2>and but she doesn't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Tory's space is a little bit Donna's right now, Like Torri,

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<v Speaker 4>you're like a little bit like for Ray when it's

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<v Speaker 4>like that guy sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm, say it, say it?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you want me to say? Say? Ray sucks?

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<v Speaker 3>Ray sucks, raise a bad guy?

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, Tory, do you think Ray sucks? Wait?

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<v Speaker 3>Does Tori he sucks?

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<v Speaker 2>Or does Donna think he's Both were the same, You're not,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's something else.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm concerned that Tory slash Donna is still giving

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<v Speaker 4>this guy a shot.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, this guy sucks so hard.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard in something to just leave no matter if

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<v Speaker 3>it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we all know that now about Tory slash Donna.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Oh what are you saying at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>At the time, Yeah, Donna really like like Kelly never

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<v Speaker 4>would have stayed with a guy like Ray at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>She would have been like get or Claire would have

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<v Speaker 4>been like beat it.

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<v Speaker 3>Even hindsight, like they wrote the character of Ray based

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<v Speaker 3>on my real life and that bad boyfriend I had Jack.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Valerie would have stayed with that tool too,

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<v Speaker 4>because Dylan and Ray treat her badly and she's always going.

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<v Speaker 5>Back for more.

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<v Speaker 3>The years line up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that they I mean, that would have

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<v Speaker 2>been really clever pro I was saying in apropro for

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<v Speaker 2>them to like, but maybe they have realized on something

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<v Speaker 2>so bad happening in your life, yeap, that they would

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<v Speaker 2>write that into the show. I mean, I would think

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<v Speaker 2>that they would have had a little bit more but sensitivity.

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<v Speaker 4>It tracks for Donna.

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<v Speaker 3>It's oddly listening to like he puts me down. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh my god, this is exactly what I

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<v Speaker 3>used to say about that boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 5>And Missus Martin does first.

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<v Speaker 3>So even if they didn't plan it it, nobody caught that,

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<v Speaker 3>like ooh.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and yes Martin treats Donna badly, so she's just

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<v Speaker 4>mirroring what she has experienced growing up. Missus Martin is

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<v Speaker 4>always criticizing and like doing weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>This is getting weird.

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<v Speaker 5>It's getting weird. We need Mollie.

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<v Speaker 2>We need Mollie to hypnotize you so that we can

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<v Speaker 2>go back in your life and figure out what the

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<v Speaker 2>fudge is happening.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's Missus Martin. If I'm gonna say, it

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<v Speaker 4>always starts.

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<v Speaker 2>With the mom come on such an easy. I resent

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<v Speaker 2>that remark now as a mother. I'm like I said

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<v Speaker 2>to my girls the other day, when am I going

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<v Speaker 2>to hear about your therapy sessions? About all the ways

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<v Speaker 2>I've messed you up? But it always does go back?

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<v Speaker 3>It always did, Mom.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, your kids will blame you, Tori for anything wrong

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<v Speaker 4>in their lives too.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course they blame me every day. What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 3>But that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So she invites Ray to Andrea's goodbye party, and he

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<v Speaker 2>refuses to go because he doesn't like them. He asks Donna,

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<v Speaker 2>if he made her choose between her friends and him,

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<v Speaker 2>what would she do?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>What choice would she make? Donna? Which choice would you make?

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<v Speaker 4>Ray?

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<v Speaker 2>Are your friends?

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<v Speaker 3>I had this conversation over and over in real life.

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<v Speaker 3>I always chose you. Are you happy?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I am not to use the most obvious term in

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<v Speaker 4>the world. But he's a bit of a gas lighter too.

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<v Speaker 2>The worst that sucks. Then we're going to go on

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<v Speaker 2>into the Walsh house. There were well, of course, tells

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon immediately, hold on, hold your hat, just gip something

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<v Speaker 2>very important.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, we did you and Val.

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<v Speaker 4>When Val comes over to borrow the notes, she sees

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<v Speaker 4>the tickets.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did you leave the tickets? She walked in. Why

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<v Speaker 3>didn't you jump up and move the tickets?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Kelly didn't seem very surprised at all to

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<v Speaker 2>have val just walking into her bedroom like that.

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<v Speaker 5>She didn't really seem concerned that she saw the tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>She's very like relaxed that day. Yeah, I was exhausted

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<v Speaker 2>from all that fresh air and rollerblading and making out AnyWho.

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<v Speaker 2>Back at the Walls house, Valerie of course tells Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>immediately and Kelly are She like literally runs there and

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<v Speaker 2>says they are taking a trip around the world, and

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<v Speaker 2>she tells, it just kills me that you're fooling around.

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<v Speaker 2>That she's fooling around on you like this, It kills me.

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<v Speaker 3>Kills her pains. She's right there if he needs someone.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's just creepy to me now that she's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>put her sits on Brandon, is she I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like it Dylan's house. Brandon comes over. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so Brandon finds out. He goes straight to Dylan's house

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<v Speaker 2>to confront Dylan, and he tells him, I know you

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<v Speaker 2>love her, but they have a special connection and he

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<v Speaker 2>will never understand.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll hold on first, he puts on his best actually

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<v Speaker 3>nice fitting h tweed blazer to go over to Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to wear a blazer when you're gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>over to a friend's house confronts.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes him look a little tougher.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks good, it look good. I thought they got

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<v Speaker 3>I thought they were gonna get into it like way.

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<v Speaker 2>I was hoping there are gonna be some action there.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't Brandon Moore fired up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know those those two they don't ever really fight.

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<v Speaker 2>They just talk.

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<v Speaker 4>About Yeah, and it's not it's not his nature to

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<v Speaker 4>suddenly be all crazy about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But yet, well, I wish he had gotten a little

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<v Speaker 3>more in his face. I wish he had done something. See,

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<v Speaker 3>here's the thing that makes me sorry. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 3>say I want Kelly with Dylan is moments like that

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<v Speaker 3>when Brandon it's like fight or flight, and he's a

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<v Speaker 3>flight guy. He doesn't like he's gone standing like I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted him to go to fight for his girl and

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<v Speaker 3>not fight like just something like be.

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<v Speaker 2>A little more aggressive a little Yeah, and those.

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<v Speaker 4>Two are the worst set of friends of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just like, who is what I guess that

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<v Speaker 2>they're I mean they're not. Kelly is not very good

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<v Speaker 2>friends to Brenda. Brandon's not very good friends too Dylan.

0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Kelly's not a very good boyfriend a girlfriend, Dylan's not

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<v Speaker 2>a good friend of it. It's a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of yeah in primetime series, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta have those triangles to make yeah people interested.

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<v Speaker 2>So then we go back to the beach where Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>surprises Kelly with a new pair of roller blades.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is the second time that made me

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<v Speaker 3>not root for Brandon, like.

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<v Speaker 2>That he gives her a pair of roller blades.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's going to be something clever, like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, something.

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<v Speaker 6>For her trip to be like, so she'd be like, what.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean, like a luggage. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what I literally thought at first. And I was like, Oh,

0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.000
<v Speaker 3>it's too small. What's gonna It's gonna be something clever,

0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:45.280
<v Speaker 3>new roller blades from my girl.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, Oh, I mean, apparently you're the roller

0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.199
<v Speaker 4>blading queen of the world and we just didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, he just slotted her in. Remember he

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<v Speaker 3>used to roller blade. Who was that girl that had bandags?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Huh?

0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:06.879
<v Speaker 4>Oh, my god, great memory, great memory, the short haired girl.

0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:07.560
<v Speaker 5>From the beach club.

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<v Speaker 3>That one.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, a really good marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>So the truth comes out here Kelly lets him know,

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<v Speaker 2>or he lets her know. I'm not sure how that

0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:21.840
<v Speaker 2>happened that he knows about the trip around. Kelly admits

0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:26.080
<v Speaker 2>that she still has feelings for Dylan well oh, and

0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.280
<v Speaker 2>says Brandon didn't have to buy her a ring to

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<v Speaker 2>prove his love.

0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Well right by that ring? Like what went into that?

0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Like that was a quick turnaround?

0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, where was the money for that?

0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:40.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it looked like a carrot.

0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:46.000
<v Speaker 5>That's not cheap. Maybe it was grandma's ring. We don't know.

0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:48.119
<v Speaker 3>That's what I wanted to think of her though, like

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<v Speaker 3>because it was just so out of the blue.

0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:51.840
<v Speaker 2>It's so generic it was.

0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:54.760
<v Speaker 3>And then a ring at the pawn shop next door,

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<v Speaker 3>like what.

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<v Speaker 5>It just was? Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what then he asks her to marry him and

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't say yes, and she doesn't say no.

0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.680
<v Speaker 4>She doesn't have to say yes right away.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you just put it on.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't say yes right in a way, if

0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.480
<v Speaker 2>they don't say yes right away, people, it's a no.

0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:18.640
<v Speaker 2>It's like just remember that for the future. You're right,

0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.160
<v Speaker 2>it really is if they have to think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Third ding against Brandon. He's okay with that. He knows

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<v Speaker 3>that she says no, and he's like, well, whenever you

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<v Speaker 3>decide to put it on, it's like, that's just like,

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<v Speaker 3>really what he.

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<v Speaker 4>Was doing, if I may say in college terms, he

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<v Speaker 4>actually was pinning her because I don't think he either

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<v Speaker 4>was ready to get engaged, but he wanted to be

0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:44.040
<v Speaker 4>engaged to be engaged, So really he should have just

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<v Speaker 4>gone to the sorority and pinned her.

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Or he could have said it was a commitment ring

0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:50.280
<v Speaker 3>yeah or yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels like he wasn't ready either.

0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:54.760
<v Speaker 2>And no to double down though, he invites her to

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<v Speaker 2>move into his house when his parents want to.

0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Go to Hong Kong, Like that sounds sexy.

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:02.159
<v Speaker 2>They're just gonna pretend to be married people in the

0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:03.680
<v Speaker 2>old Walsh bedroom.

0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.760
<v Speaker 3>Because that's where you want to be. Leave your beautiful

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:08.320
<v Speaker 3>beach apartment right.

0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:14.879
<v Speaker 2>To go into Jim and Cindy's old pad. Also, I

0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:16.680
<v Speaker 2>was at the point where I was like, wait, they're

0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:19.240
<v Speaker 2>just gonna keep that house and let Brandon and vow

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<v Speaker 2>live in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's coming, that's you'll find out about that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's next. The ranger.

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:28.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you find out the house.

0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so at the pea pad ray approaches value.

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<v Speaker 4>People have asked you please not called that anymore. Just

0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:36.600
<v Speaker 4>let me know what the people say. Oh okay, they

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<v Speaker 4>want you to one with pea pad.

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<v Speaker 2>Hyeez, thanks for letting me know. You could have shot

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.720
<v Speaker 2>me a text. You could have maybe emailed me that.

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<v Speaker 2>No on the air. Why why don't they like me to?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>It irritates those.

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<v Speaker 3>Are the irritates them.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure That's not the only thing I do that

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<v Speaker 2>irritates them. I'm just you know, I was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make a cute little thing. But if you guys don't

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<v Speaker 2>like it, I will never say it again.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that Look, a few people may not like it,

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<v Speaker 4>but those that do like it maybe haven't spoken yet.

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<v Speaker 4>So you do what feels right to you, and right

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<v Speaker 4>pea pad is peach pit after dark.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Wait, I gotta say something though, So if they're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about it, they're talking about it, don't lose it, correct.

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<v Speaker 5>They It definitely has made been question. Great point. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>it's it's called branding.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go. I don't like to discs and we

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<v Speaker 3>wee pads did it ages ago? But you were next

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<v Speaker 3>in line and now keep it pad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wherever wherever it is, you know that place.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Ray approaches Valerie to tell her that he is afraid

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 2>David and Claire will spill the beans to Donna. Valerie

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<v Speaker 2>tells him his personal life isn't her problem?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, she's just so classic.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, can I say tons tons of people love Valerie?

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<v Speaker 5>They are they are there in the comments, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, who doesn't. They always love the bad girl.

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<v Speaker 2>They love that.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, yeah, I'm still.

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<v Speaker 4>Iffy on her iffy.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys notice in this episode there were a

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<v Speaker 2>number of very odd close up angles on most of

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<v Speaker 2>the cast at some point innocent.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's why I noticed it because I literally can see

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<v Speaker 4>everyone's lipstick so much.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just too close and even the boys dry lips.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the scene where it was very prominent. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not sure we've discussed yet on the porch of the

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<v Speaker 4>beach apartment with the two of you talking the lipstick.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I was like, who directed this and why are

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<v Speaker 2>they so close up?

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<v Speaker 3>But some of them I liked, Like some I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's intimate, it's great. I didn't like when I saw myself,

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<v Speaker 3>but that it was done too because I'm paranoid about it,

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<v Speaker 3>but like, very.

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<v Speaker 4>Close, I could see in your eratry.

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<v Speaker 3>Ew Oh good if that's what you were looking at

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<v Speaker 3>in the fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot to say that when Val comes over to

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Kelly's room and just walks right in like she owns

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<v Speaker 2>the place and talks to her like that, I would

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<v Speaker 2>have beat that b I was like, who in hell

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<v Speaker 2>does she think she is? This girl talking to Kelly

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor like that?

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<v Speaker 3>How'd she get in? Like everyone just walks in, Like

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<v Speaker 3>the door is always unlocked.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we just leave it unlocked.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's not safe, considering there was a rapist that

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<v Speaker 4>came in, but okay, yeah, okay.

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she just walks walks right in. You know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching this with Dave and he said to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I am losing respect for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>He was confusing the characters like people do sometimes, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, why would Kelly be kissing Brandon and Dylan?

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<v Speaker 5>Many have that question?

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, many.

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<v Speaker 4>Do, and so nonchalantly that's the thing, almost like it's okay, but.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys, let's let's go back to when Kelly and

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.479
<v Speaker 3>Dylan were first together, and Brenda was there and they

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<v Speaker 3>were just kissing Freeland on campus. Ye, Like, I feel

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.680
<v Speaker 3>like there's never with characters like uh oh, we got

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 3>to try to I guess I know.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, And you switched from Dylan to Brandon quite quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I think that's the exciting part though, for the audience,

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 2>for the viewers to be like, oh, they're gonna get caught.

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 4>Someone's gonna see me, right, and we don't have to

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<v Speaker 4>wait a long time for the next one.

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<v Speaker 2>So we go back to the to the beach house

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<v Speaker 2>and Kelly shows Donna her new engagement ring and tell

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<v Speaker 2>l and her lipstick and tells her that Dylan has

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 2>offered her a trip around the world. And Donna says,

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't leave Brandon for a fling.

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, why would Donna a fling? Though?

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:14.959
<v Speaker 2>Right, I thought the same thing.

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 4>Well, Dylan is not as stable as Brandon, like that

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 4>is correct.

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:25.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but still her best friend in the whole world

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 2>knows the complicated nature of that relationship the act, she

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 2>would never call it a fling.

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<v Speaker 4>Anywhow who, Tori, who do you think Donna really does

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 4>want her?

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 3>With? Knowing Donna probably Brandon.

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 5>That's the impression I get, Jenny, is that your take?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably?

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just because she thinks it'll be like a better, safer,

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 3>stable life for her.

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<v Speaker 2>And and this is the scene too where Donna tells

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 2>finally confides a little better. We see her confiding a

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:06.160
<v Speaker 2>little bit in Kelly about how her relationship with Ray

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 2>is not feeling great.

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Kelly, this was actually a good.

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Scene, very good advice where she said go with your heart.

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Go here.

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, something totally lame that.

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Really doesn't help. First you tried, you said not to

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 3>lose yourself, right, but then you did say go with

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 3>your heart because you asked me and I said that

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to be with him. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 3>I Kelly would never do that either. She'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you're right, she wouldn't get away.

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 2>From I don't like the way he treats you and

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 2>get away from him. Yeah she would not.

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Kelly would never do that back, never have.

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<v Speaker 4>It's actually a very good scene that if it was

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<v Speaker 4>not shot so close up. Sorry there's a frog in

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 4>my throat, But if it was shot so close up

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 4>it would have been better.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't understand that.

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, actually hurt the scene, I don't want

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 4>to be.

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Because you're talking focused on the words, You're like focused.

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 5>On your lips and the.

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Makeup and the makeup and the pores and the like.

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 2>It's just like I don't want to see that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was, Yeah, I got very distracted from the actual

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 4>like my parent bite, like the writing was quite good

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 4>in that scene was like, yeah, but it was, and

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 4>I sort of missed some of it. I watched it again.

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 4>It's fine.

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Dylan comes over to see if Kelly has made up

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 2>her mind because the playing leaves in four days, and

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>that's when he spots the engagement ring and she said, oops,

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 2>I forgot to take it off.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, nobody's worried about finals. Brandon was like a tiny bit,

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 4>but like, aren't y' all in finals and you're just

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 4>dealing with like life's most dramatic situations.

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Fins can't choose when life happens.

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh, and of course Dylan and Kelly start making out

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 2>there too.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, it's so weird.

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 3>It's weird.

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 4>Wait, I forgot to mention Brandon's awkward highlighting of the

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 4>book during the awkward scene when Valerie just rips the

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 4>band aid off and tell him tells him you're basically

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 4>like going around the world with your ex boyfriend.

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 3>He washa highlighting.

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 4>He's just like bag highlighting.

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 3>I was staring at her out but I wasn't a

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 3>fan of that outfit. Which outfit?

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 6>It was like the beige right, yeah, swe no vest

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 6>I wish I wouldn't let it.

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 3>No, it was like a was it ribbed? Remember when

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 3>those wrens like a.

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 4>Little they do.

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 5>Put her in sort of some tan and it matches.

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know the whole thing. I usually like her

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 3>outfits a lot. I didn't love it. Sorry, I was

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 3>focused on that.

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 2>And then it's cute because Donn and Clara watching them

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>from inside, it's funny. They're like, uh, really interested in

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 2>what's happening out there.

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 4>And Donna, oh yeah that was good?

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and then that was good tells Donna that she

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 2>could do so much better than Ray and Donna gets

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 2>defency what Yeah, I was.

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Too focus on her brown lips.

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 4>If you were Claire, would you tell her.

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 3>Stick I didn't like that color?

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 4>If she sorry, no, please go go because.

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 3>She had a crush on Dylan. Who didn't who didn't?

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 5>That was true?

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 4>But if you were Claire and you know this guy sucks, Like,

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 4>is Claire not being a good friend by not telling

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 4>her like your dude sucks?

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>She should tell her by now.

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 5>Or an anonymous note, something.

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 4>Like anonymous note or David needs to tell her. Somebody

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 4>needs to say this guy.

0:31:55.080 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh, No, who tells her? No, one tells her.

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 4>We're not there yet.

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Back at the wallsh House, Jim and Cindy tell Brandon

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 2>and Valerie that they have decided they are going to

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 2>move to Hong Kong.

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 4>And how could they not for two and a half times?

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 4>So the money is rich.

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Now money, it's the money, Cindy, okay with that, like

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 3>moving across She's.

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 4>Got her doctorate or whatever it is. Remember, they're like,

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 4>she's got her master, she could teach classes, like all

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, she's just.

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Like she only speaks English though.

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 5>So random, but okay, it's not forever.

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 2>And then Brandon just tells them nonchalantly that he's proposed

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 2>to Kelly.

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 5>I mean, that was totally bizarre, and of.

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Course Valerie is upset about that news. Then we go

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 2>to the party. I guess it's a party.

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 7>It was a seven art What it is?

0:32:55.400 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 3>The question what vows? Like undying love for Dylan, Like

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 3>that's over. She's just like focused on Brandon and that's

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 3>not What is upsetting is that Kelly and Dylan might

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 3>go away together. Everything about Dylan.

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 4>I think she's in a real dither about all of it.

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 4>If I may, I think she's just all pod.

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I would be too.

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 3>I just want her to mention it though I wanted

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:23.479
<v Speaker 3>her to get gels.

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 4>I feel like she's mentioning it in her face, Like

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 4>we're seeing that in her face all the time.

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Just how yes, she's you can tell she's a little

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 2>stressed about it all.

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like a scow slash devil in there, and.

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 3>She's just tired because she's saying for finals and working

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 3>really hard.

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 2>As a badass boss bitch at the peak.

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 4>Right, Okay, now THEO goodbye lunch.

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 2>This is yeah, this is the first of the goodbyes,

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 2>and everybody's kind of gathered.

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 4>Brought like macaroni salad to a fold out table in

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 4>the quad in the middle of school.

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, was that fun for her? Is she like that?

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Probably? Oh?

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and she's blindfolded the blindfold that was exciting.

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh and they're Honda.

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 5>That was their Honda looked like an accord.

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, but everybody's there, even missus t.

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 4>That was yeah, that was like oh.

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 2>And then Gil Gil Gil's back, who knows why. It's

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 2>literally if you blink you miss him.

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know he always had that weird attraction thing

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 4>that wasn't with Andrea, so I thought, oh.

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 2>Remember, And of course Brian and Dylan were no shows.

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:49.439
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, which is just absolute unbelievable because that does there

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 8>are her two besties, they're both coming, they're both coming,

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 8>They're gonna suck it up.

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 4>And then how about when she comes over and says,

0:34:58.239 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 4>I know what's going on?

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:00.879
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm.

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 5>He told me, it's just.

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 4>Like, oh my god, what's happening?

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 2>And then Ray, oh, it's like a.

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 4>That was the deal breaker for me in front of everyone.

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:14.240
<v Speaker 5>Every Thank you, Jenny.

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 3>It was so Kelly Taylor's two polos this episode and

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 3>then raise yellow polo? Did he borrow that from Kelly

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 3>from one of the rollerblating scenes? What was going on?

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:24.240
<v Speaker 3>I was so solo?

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Who would wear a p I mean.

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 3>You you wear polos twice in this episode?

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Are sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 4>Good. I love polos. But this was Ray's lowest low

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 4>for me, lower than the push, which was horrendous.

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:39.280
<v Speaker 3>What him wearing a yellow polo.

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 4>Like him just being of everybody. It's embarrassing. He's violent,

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 4>he's absolutely abusive.

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 5>It's so bad.

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 4>It's so bad. And also for some reason, I have

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 4>that like diarrhea feeling when couples fight in public and

0:35:56.520 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm with an earshot where I can't handle that.

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Like wait, what's the diarrhea feeling?

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 4>I just hate when couples are having a spat in public.

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, God, like I don't feel uncomfortable.

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:14.479
<v Speaker 5>I'm so bad.

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 4>And it's just like, Donna, you're back at your school.

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 4>There's young, impressionable high schoolers seeing you crying like I'm sorry,

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.919
<v Speaker 4>you're right, Like I just hated it.

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh when she runs after him, somebody should have stopped her.

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:31.879
<v Speaker 2>They just stare at her. They just stare at her

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 2>and let her run off. After this, I know, just.

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 4>Say to him Sea and he and she's like no, right, no,

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 4>like it's so.

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 2>That like and then he's like, I'm so sick. I

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 2>hurt you and you're spoiled rich friends. He's so venomous, like.

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.959
<v Speaker 4>And then he's like I won't be cough, like it's

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 4>so awful.

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, she says, don't call me.

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 4>I won't.

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 5>Like it's so triggering and terrible that I'm like.

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:02.760
<v Speaker 3>This is because you know that feeling when like someone's

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 3>doing that to you and you're like being and then

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 3>a panic and then you just get pushed. So you're

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 3>just like, fine, don't call me, and then they're like

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 3>I won't and you're like, no, I didn't mean it.

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 4>It goes from begging. It's like there is there's that

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 4>fine line between begging and then like fine, Like it's.

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:24.359
<v Speaker 3>Just so I wonder it's take her two little pink

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.879
<v Speaker 3>baby breads off and like throw him at him. She walked.

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I would have been a good start.

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 4>This is the pink skirt with a white crop polo.

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, yeah, well you were wearing a polo too.

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh ah.

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:43.840
<v Speaker 4>There's no coming back for me with Ray. He is done.

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 4>He is here.

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 2>This is the last time we see him in this episode.

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.359
<v Speaker 3>Correct, I didn't know where you're going with that, Like.

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 5>He'll be back.

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 4>No, he sucks. Yeah, like they wrote him really really sucky,

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 4>and watching it now.

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 5>Is just like awful.

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like now going back, like we all know what

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, no spoilers, but what ends up happening. But

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, in years the writers still saying the producers

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 3>are like, oh, we wanted to then make him redeemable.

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:18.399
<v Speaker 4>That was happen.

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 3>But now watching it back from this point, like you're like, ah,

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 3>you couldn't have gone back.

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 4>You could never redeem this guy. And the craziest thing

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 4>is he joins he's in the opening credits. Next season,

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 4>it freaking blows my name. They make him.

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 5>A regular on the next seat.

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 3>He could.

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:42.799
<v Speaker 4>Yes, he is a regular in the starting credits, and

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 4>it's like, this guy, you.

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 5>Have made him.

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 2>He really shouldn't have been in the opening credits. I'm

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 2>going to say that right now.

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 5>Because he's worse than Valerie and.

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Because he's he's abusive physically and mentally abusive. Valerie is

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 2>just a dirty, rotten scoundrel.

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.280
<v Speaker 4>But but he's got.

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:04.240
<v Speaker 5>Bad.

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 3>But you could see like how we so often are

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 3>like you know, Jenny, Kelly, Tory, Donna, Like you could

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 3>see how people were like Ray Jamie, and it's like

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 3>further thing that's like the opposite, like the kindest human

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 3>and so that is unfortunate.

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 5>That's such a good point.

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 4>It's like knowing that makes me want to revive his career,

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 4>although I hear he's quite happy as a.

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 5>Fireman, so it doesn't matter. But its empty pardon me

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 5>emt but.

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Still getting defense.

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:43.959
<v Speaker 5>It also makes me Donna would chase after him. That's

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 5>so Donna, and I'm like, Donna, stop it.

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 2>I think she's gonna learn. Ultimately, does Donna learn in

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 2>the series?

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 4>But find out well, obviously, like she marries she has

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 4>a no, she doesn't remember the wedding anyway. Nope, Okay,

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:06.280
<v Speaker 4>that's amazing.

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, okay. So we go to the wash house

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 2>and again Valerie is trying to convince Brandon that Kelly

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 2>has manipulated him and she's stringing him along, and she

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 2>tells Brandon that she hopes Kelly chooses Dylan because he

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 2>deserves better.

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just gag me.

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean it could be a true statement, yes, but.

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 5>She's like making a move for Brandon, which is so creepy.

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:31.879
<v Speaker 3>But only because Dylan didn't want her.

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't even imagine Brandon and.

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:42.720
<v Speaker 3>Steve want Valerie together. Steve gets no one and wants everyone.

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 2>He'll get someone. Don't worry, Okay, I remember that but

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I honestly didn't disagree with val in this.

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, her words are true.

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:57.839
<v Speaker 2>Here we are back at the beach house and Kelly

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:00.800
<v Speaker 2>and Donna are having a heart to heart and Donna's

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 2>complaining about how selfish Ray is, and Kelly says Brandon

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 2>and Dylan are both selfish in their own ways. Too interesting.

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:08.479
<v Speaker 4>Take.

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Didn't we already go through the scene.

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel like we did.

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:13.399
<v Speaker 4>But that's okay, we didn't touch on that. I'm glad

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:15.839
<v Speaker 4>you brought that part important. Yeah, I'm glad you brought

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 4>that up.

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 2>And then Kelly does dispense some you know, usable advice.

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 2>She says, don't lose yourself, which is what happens in

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 2>these kinds of relationships.

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Any relationship. It's so hard. I thought for a young gal.

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 3>It was very like inspirational that Kelly and evolved, that

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 3>Kelly was able to see that both the men that

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 3>she loves that they're selfish. And yeah, I don't know.

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 3>I was like, that's a really cool thing what she's

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 3>saying right now, because as you can see, Donna just

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 3>defends her men, but you are, like mine, have some

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 3>moments that are not so great too.

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's well said.

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 4>And it was a good take that Kelly was a

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 4>too astutely ascertain m hmm, I mean.

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I do I agree with you. I feel proud somehow

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 2>that Kelly was taking this time to really weigh, you know,

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 2>whether she was kissing both of them or not. She

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 2>was really trying to make the right decision and she

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 2>was really considering it. And also, yeah, yeah, very self

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:31.360
<v Speaker 2>aware and aware to see that they're both so selfish

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 2>right now. They're both trying to get her and they

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:39.440
<v Speaker 2>don't really care about her. I want to win the challenge?

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 4>Are they trying to win?

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a great, great point. Yes, I mean I

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 3>do believe they both love her, but in this moment,

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 3>it's ego and pride that's taking over. Yeah.

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 2>So this is the final goodbye for Andrea and Jesse

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 2>the peach pit, where the whole crew surprises her to

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 2>say one last goodbye.

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 4>And this did not feel like Andrea was saying goodbye.

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:13.280
<v Speaker 4>This to me was Gabrielle saying goodbye.

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 3>Correct, hmm.

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 5>Didn't nobody thinks.

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it was mixed because I I could feel

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:24.840
<v Speaker 2>just from my watching me in that scene, I felt

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 2>like I was feeling like, oh no, gaps leaving and

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't like this.

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 3>Didn't you feel like that? Everybody was like, this is

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 3>so sad. I definitely cried personal I cried.

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:37.279
<v Speaker 4>I did two.

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 5>I did too. I cried too.

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:44.359
<v Speaker 2>M she drives away and she has flashbacks of all

0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:45.760
<v Speaker 2>her memories of West Bevererly.

0:43:46.000 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 7>God, but we to talk about each individual goodbye, each

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 7>individual kiss the kiss.

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 4>So when you guys are watching that, we were like,

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 4>oh wow, she's a real lip kisser.

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a little weird.

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we already knew that.

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 4>But I think it started with a nat kiss and

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 4>that kind of was like, oh wow, okay, all right,

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:23.839
<v Speaker 4>and then the kisses went all the way around.

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 2>All around. Yep, well that's how you say goodbye in

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Beverly Hills. Then, oh, you guys. I saw Mark Espinoza

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 2>at a a thing at the mission where we were

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 2>serving food together him. Yes, we were amazing serving cobbler together,

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 2>like dishing out cherry cobbler and I he looked amazing. No,

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:54.839
<v Speaker 2>I'll get to that. First of all, I walk up

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 2>to him like this clothes, I'm like hi, and he

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 2>looks at me, has no idea who I am, no one,

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, Hi, Hello, hello Mark I and

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 2>literally I was like, it's me Jenny.

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 3>He literally took his glasses on.

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 2>You didn't believe me, then put his glasses on, and

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 2>then he was.

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Like, oh no, no, no, I.

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Swhere that happened.

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 4>You look exactly the same.

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, it doesn't matter. He didn't recognize me. So for

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 2>the rest of our our time slot there in the cobbler,

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:33.240
<v Speaker 2>I kept accident like probably eight.

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 4>Times, and I liked that you were serving cobbler though.

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 2>Wait, first I was serving cobbler with.

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 3>Color Feldman.

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 4>What do you tell what other celebrities were there?

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 2>This is iron Zering.

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, wait, tell me about Corey Feldman.

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I was okay, first it was me and Corey Feldman.

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 2>I got there and Corey was already serving the cobbler.

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 3>And did you recognize him?

0:45:57.719 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 4>Did he know you? Of course?

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 2>And I they were like you you help out Corey

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:06.760
<v Speaker 2>in this cobbler section. I was like, okay, hi, Corey,

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:10.319
<v Speaker 2>It's I'm Jenny and it was awkward and he was like,

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 2>oh hey. Then he gave me a hug and introduced yourself.

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Everyone in the whole world knows who you are.

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 2>But when you're upsetting you that look they're they like

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 2>they don't recognize you. I get really nervous and then

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 2>I have to like compensate.

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 3>That's like an ego thing when people do that. He

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 3>was so nice, so nice. Okay, he's nice.

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 5>He's nice.

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 2>He is so nice. He is very unique that he's

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 2>a very unique individual, and he was extremely pleasant to

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:43.760
<v Speaker 2>everybody there. So it was a very very big year coming.

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 4>There's a very viral about his music. Was it about

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:48.799
<v Speaker 4>his music? A lot?

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:50.240
<v Speaker 2>He's got a lot coming out.

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 4>Viral documentaries.

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Jerry O'Connell and Corey singing stand by me on

0:46:57.520 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 5>the Talk.

0:46:58.800 --> 0:46:59.760
<v Speaker 4>It's worth a watch.

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:02.839
<v Speaker 2>He's real sweet and he has a really nice son too,

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 2>who was Oh yeah, it was fun anyhow, Sorry we

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 2>have gone off topic.

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:09.360
<v Speaker 5>No, it's all good bit of trivia.

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:11.320
<v Speaker 4>Corey Fulman was one of in one of the Friday

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 4>the Thirteenth story.

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 3>Okays, Tommy, Tommy Jurgons and then in the next one

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:20.800
<v Speaker 3>he's older.

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, yep, yeah, yeah, I'm glad you know. Okay, Jenny,

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 4>back to the the moment we've all been waiting for.

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Wait, wait, wait, I want to tell you more. He

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:34.440
<v Speaker 2>was for some reason we got talking about the quiet

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 2>on the set documentary. Oh no way, So this is

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:40.720
<v Speaker 2>like yesterday, this is all while serving the cobblers.

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 4>What was this for Easter?

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:43.239
<v Speaker 5>When were you?

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 2>And he was saying that he had had he had

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 2>made a documentary back in the nineties and there was

0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:58.440
<v Speaker 2>some very similar content. Yeah, and that people the powers

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 2>that be shut it down and didn't release his documentary.

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah what was in his documentary? And I was like,

0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:09.799
<v Speaker 2>that has got to come out?

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:13.759
<v Speaker 4>Did he name names? M tell me later? I need

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:14.319
<v Speaker 4>to know later.

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So hopefully that documentary will come out. Yeah.

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Is he planning on it coming out?

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:26.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to see that. He's probably seen Yeah,

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:27.880
<v Speaker 3>he's seen that ship.

0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, okay, sorry sorry sorry back to that was

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 2>worth it.

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 5>And just so you know, the people like our tangents,

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 5>so don't you worry about that.

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:41.399
<v Speaker 3>Mark Damon Espinosa might not like this one, but you know.

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:46.680
<v Speaker 5>But bravo for everybody helping out on Easter. That makes

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:47.320
<v Speaker 5>me so happy.

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you guys. Here's the thing though, this is his

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 3>final appearance ever, so we didn't know again.

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:58.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because I know how they end up. Wait, what

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:01.280
<v Speaker 4>you don't know what happens with Jesse and Andrea.

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:03.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's still coming. I thought I'm missing.

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:06.799
<v Speaker 4>Well she comes back. So no, No, Andrea comes back

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:12.759
<v Speaker 4>a couple of times, and we learn they eventually they

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 4>do get divorced. I don't want to ruin it.

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 2>They're so happy right now in their Honda on the

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:18.279
<v Speaker 2>way to you know.

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 4>I know they're really in love now, but it does

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:25.799
<v Speaker 4>not last summer ever. Now the moment we've all been

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:26.439
<v Speaker 4>waiting for.

0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Jane and the lips that, but that's your moment.

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:34.360
<v Speaker 4>Look. I look deep into that, and I was like,

0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 4>do I see it? Do I see it?

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 4>I do?

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 3>You saw it?

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 4>I see that they have a they could have worked.

0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 5>It could have worked.

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 3>You still maintain that in the peach.

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 4>I will maintain.

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:46.919
<v Speaker 5>That, Thank you, Tori.

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:51.320
<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, despite people disagreed.

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:52.880
<v Speaker 3>With you on some level, I was just wondering, you

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 3>saw it today today, this episode. Yeah, I did in

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:56.959
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety five.

0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Dude, Wait, do you said people in the real world

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 2>agree with you that they really do?

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 4>They care for my take? Yeah? No, the majority.

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:09.840
<v Speaker 3>There might be a couple and I get in trouble

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:10.800
<v Speaker 3>for agreeing with you.

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 4>No, they don't take it back. You're just you're being

0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 4>a nice friend. They really understand it's my take, and they.

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Do not thumbs down on that one.

0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they think I'm an idiot, but I stand on.

0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna I'm not backing down.

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I say, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do with Pepad

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 2>then I'm not going to back down saying it because

0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 2>of you. You've inspired me. Aby Yeah, okay. So everyone

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 2>scatters off and it's left with Kelly. Oh the funniest thing.

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 4>That was a slow scattering yeah.

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:47.759
<v Speaker 2>And Steve's is standing there and he's like, what does

0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 2>he say something?

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:52.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go turn in paper, probably not gonna get

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:53.360
<v Speaker 4>me as good of a grade.

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 2>But literally no one is listening and no one responds,

0:50:57.640 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 2>and he just walks off.

0:50:59.360 --> 0:50:59.959
<v Speaker 5>Nobody cares.

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 4>Was waiting for like one of the biggest moments in

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 4>the show's history, and he's just got to get out

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 4>of the scene with his term paper.

0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yep.

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:10.759
<v Speaker 2>So Kelly says, hey, guys, can I talk to you?

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 6>Yes?

0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 2>And they both look bent out of shape when she

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:17.479
<v Speaker 2>asks them to talk, like like they don't want to talk,

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 2>which was a little weird. I mean, one of them

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:22.759
<v Speaker 2>just ask her and marry and the other ones it's

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:24.439
<v Speaker 2>just weird the way they're acting.

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:24.960
<v Speaker 5>Like they're so baby.

0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:25.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 3>Do you think they're just nervous that they're gonna get

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:28.040
<v Speaker 3>turned down?

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 4>I guess she tells Bachelor too. It's such a Bachelor

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:34.680
<v Speaker 4>moment because you've got them both there together with their

0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:37.520
<v Speaker 4>roses and you're like, who's gonna get it?

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:41.880
<v Speaker 2>And that dress, the long black dress with the flowers.

0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh nice?

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:45.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And immediately the scene's iconic because I've watched it

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 4>five hundred times on TikTok, so you know exactly what's happening.

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Yep. She tells Brandon that she can't accept the ring,

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 2>and she tells and he so he starts to turn away, Yeah, rejected,

0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:00.879
<v Speaker 2>and then she says wait and she tells she can't

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:04.480
<v Speaker 2>go on the trip with him, and that's when she says,

0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:07.799
<v Speaker 2>I've made my choice. I choose me.

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh. It is the most dramatic Bachelor finale ever. I'm

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 4>not gonna lie.

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 2>They should do that.

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:15.920
<v Speaker 4>They should do that.

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 5>Somebody up there should just be like and right, Brad

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:23.400
<v Speaker 5>Womack did that.

0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:27.239
<v Speaker 2>But it was the first I mean, that was the

0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:32.040
<v Speaker 2>moment that I didn't didn't even really understand that. I

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:36.400
<v Speaker 2>remember Jessica Klein, who wrote the line, talking to me

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:38.360
<v Speaker 2>about it beforehand because I was like, I don't know

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:43.760
<v Speaker 2>about this line. Seems weird and I didn't feel comfortable

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:47.879
<v Speaker 2>saying it because it was such an it was so definite, you.

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 5>Know, and it was Yeah, it's very unique.

0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where she came up with it, but

0:52:57.680 --> 0:53:00.640
<v Speaker 2>it was pretty Yeah. It was a pretty important moment

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:03.759
<v Speaker 2>in the development of Kelly. And I think it was

0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:07.120
<v Speaker 2>the first time that a lot of young girls who

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:12.880
<v Speaker 2>were growing up with the show and watching the show realized, whoa, Yeah,

0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Kelly just chose her. I can choose myself, right, Yeah,

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:18.759
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's why it's resonated so much with

0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:19.520
<v Speaker 2>so many people.

0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:21.800
<v Speaker 4>It's very ahead of its time.

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:29.000
<v Speaker 5>If it was today, it's much more of course. Back then,

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 5>I think it was so like whoa, we didn't.

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:35.080
<v Speaker 3>Know how to choose ourselves back then that it even

0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 3>was a choice.

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:41.239
<v Speaker 2>And especially with the two hottest dudes around town.

0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:44.880
<v Speaker 5>Exactly, that's exactly right.

0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:47.800
<v Speaker 2>I literally was like, oh, no, is this the right choice?

0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:51.879
<v Speaker 2>This is very I don't know about this.

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:55.320
<v Speaker 5>It's prolific the right word, it's very prolific.

0:53:55.360 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 1>It's very like, wow, oh yeah, and it just really

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 1>it seems so scary too watch yeah it to be

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 1>so definite about something and so standing your ground in

0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:15.920
<v Speaker 1>front of these two guys who are both trying to woo.

0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:18.080
<v Speaker 5>Her, and it sticks with you.

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 4>I definitely thought about it after then, and now like

0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 4>you're like, oh wow.

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:28.600
<v Speaker 2>And that's crazy too, because you know, we meet fans

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 2>all the time and they talk to us about their

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:34.960
<v Speaker 2>favorite episodes and their favorite outfits and their favorite lines.

0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 2>And Donna Martin graduates for Tori, and it's always I

0:54:38.760 --> 0:54:42.279
<v Speaker 2>choose me for me. And I have women now that

0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:45.320
<v Speaker 2>are like that say that, Like I was watching the

0:54:45.360 --> 0:54:48.360
<v Speaker 2>show and that gave me the strength and the courage

0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 2>to say I could choose myself.

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:52.200
<v Speaker 5>And I have amazing at.

0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:54.600
<v Speaker 2>The cons, Like I have one woman who got I

0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Choose Me tattooed on her arm right here while I

0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:01.240
<v Speaker 2>was watching at the oh wow, oh wow.

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 3>While you were watching.

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, she had me write it on her arm,

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:09.320
<v Speaker 2>sweetest lady, and I do have good writing. I didn't

0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:11.759
<v Speaker 2>do it very good though. It was some of my

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:16.360
<v Speaker 2>worst handwriting. And then I got word that she was

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:19.120
<v Speaker 2>over at the tattoo booths. Apparently they have tattoo booths. Wow,

0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:21.920
<v Speaker 2>he's calmed sometimes and she was getting at tattooed. So

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:23.839
<v Speaker 2>I went over there and held her hand. Oh, and

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, I'm sorry, that's not very nice handwriting.

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 4>But she did you realize like, was it after it

0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:34.640
<v Speaker 4>aired that it was a big deal or was it

0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:36.439
<v Speaker 4>years later that you're like, oh wow?

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I really think it was years later that it truly

0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:43.400
<v Speaker 2>resonated me. And it wasn't even until recently when I

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:48.600
<v Speaker 2>was like exploring that idea of like going back to

0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 2>move forward, you know, and like embracing all the things

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:56.800
<v Speaker 2>in my life in my past, the experiences of that

0:55:56.800 --> 0:56:00.759
<v Speaker 2>that I've had the big moments like thinking about that

0:56:00.800 --> 0:56:03.320
<v Speaker 2>stuff in order to move me forward, because so often

0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:05.600
<v Speaker 2>people want to move forward and they don't want to

0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:08.120
<v Speaker 2>deal with their past. They don't want to associate with

0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 2>their past. They want to move on and be something

0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:13.040
<v Speaker 2>new and be something different. But I was like, I

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 2>really love, you know, so many things in my past,

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Like I want to embrace some of them and bring

0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:19.799
<v Speaker 2>them into my future. So this was one of those

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:22.920
<v Speaker 2>things that really came through for me. And then I

0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:24.759
<v Speaker 2>just started talking about it more and more and like,

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:29.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, doing what I can to get this message

0:56:29.080 --> 0:56:34.760
<v Speaker 2>out there too. Girls, women, guys, anyone that choosing yourself

0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:35.880
<v Speaker 2>is an option.

0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:39.000
<v Speaker 4>Feels like it would be wonderful if you could give

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:42.759
<v Speaker 4>the message to Donna. And I wonder if that's if you.

0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Could give the message to Toy right now.

0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:49.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I give it to you all the time you do,

0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 2>she does, mm hmm.

0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:59.000
<v Speaker 4>Choose your feels intentional that she's so in the opposite

0:56:59.239 --> 0:57:03.160
<v Speaker 4>you mean Donna, Yeah, that Donna. In this episode there's

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 4>this scene where she is so not choosing herself.

0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:10.840
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know that it ever comes back for Donna.

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:11.799
<v Speaker 5>I don't think so.

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:16.520
<v Speaker 4>No, not like, not like as momentous as it does

0:57:16.600 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 4>in this episode.

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:21.720
<v Speaker 2>For you in myself weird or crazy or maybe a

0:57:21.760 --> 0:57:22.560
<v Speaker 2>little unstable.

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:23.160
<v Speaker 3>But I was.

0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 2>After I say I've made my choice, I choose me,

0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I say, but I'll love you both till the day

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I die.

0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I love that line too, Yes, And I was.

0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Like, that.

0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Is so true for Kelly, but that was also so

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:42.919
<v Speaker 2>true for me for Jenny. Like of those two men

0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:45.240
<v Speaker 2>in front of me that I'd worked with for five

0:57:45.320 --> 0:57:49.760
<v Speaker 2>years now and loved so much in each in different ways,

0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:53.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, like definitely, you feel the same way. We'll

0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:54.680
<v Speaker 2>love each other till the day we die.

0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:57.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all of us so true.

0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Even if we don't you know, jibe, or we're not

0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 2>getting along or whatever, it is, like there's still that

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:09.080
<v Speaker 2>core of like love and connection that can never.

0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Be called trauma bond.

0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:12.680
<v Speaker 4>No, I'm just kidding.

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:13.880
<v Speaker 3>I had to take a nice moment.

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:16.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad you bring that up, Jenny, because that line

0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:20.600
<v Speaker 4>is not as famous as the I Choose Me, But

0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:21.880
<v Speaker 4>I love that line.

0:58:22.160 --> 0:58:24.320
<v Speaker 3>And did you add that line or is that written?

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:25.439
<v Speaker 5>Oh, that's a great question.

0:58:25.440 --> 0:58:26.560
<v Speaker 3>I can picture you adding that.

0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh, that's such a good question.

0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:33.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:35.680
<v Speaker 2>That might have come out of the discussion of me

0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:40.280
<v Speaker 2>feeling out like this is such a bold statement.

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:42.160
<v Speaker 5>Oh, that gives me chills.

0:58:42.720 --> 0:58:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that was something that they added to sort of

0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:49.440
<v Speaker 2>like take the sting off of that line. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody was encouraging her one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Donna was saying, go be a Brandon, yeah, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Andrea was saying get the brass ring.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesse said, choose the cobbler.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, it's just it's a great moment.

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<v Speaker 2>In the in the history of the show, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was very, very proud and honored to be a part

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a real, real high for the show.

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<v Speaker 5>It's really good.

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<v Speaker 3>It almost mean I don't want to say it, but

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<v Speaker 3>like as soon as I heard that line, I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>those are That's like, that's one of our most iconic

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<v Speaker 3>lines ever. Like what happens now? Where do we go

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<v Speaker 3>from here? Is there are there any others left? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And I also felt like this was such a high

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<v Speaker 2>for the show. And then I also felt that like

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<v Speaker 2>what's gonna what where do we go now? Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if she's not with Brandon or she's not with Dylan,

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<v Speaker 2>am I gonna want to watch this?

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<v Speaker 3>Like you No, you're not because you're not.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people are like, yeah, because you make some bad calls.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a lot of boyfriends coming up, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll see what happens. I don't know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>But this was a very crescendo of the series.

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<v Speaker 3>So did it jump the shark?

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<v Speaker 5>After the most people think it's one more season.

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<v Speaker 4>Until it jumps the show?

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<v Speaker 3>One more six is okay? What defines that season that

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<v Speaker 3>makes it it lasted another?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. That's a great question. I think we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have to analyze it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that we will. We will analyze it.

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<v Speaker 4>Bravo to both of you in this episode, because both

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<v Speaker 4>of you had major stuff, very opposite but really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think this is a good episode. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>guys want to rate.

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<v Speaker 3>It at all?

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<v Speaker 5>It's obviously ten?

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<v Speaker 2>Ten?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, obvious really is always will be.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's true, Torri always will be where some of

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<v Speaker 4>them ebb and flow or you change your mind over

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<v Speaker 4>the years. This is a real ten.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's a two parter.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's more to come.

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<v Speaker 2>There's more to come.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the next part the season finale?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh okay, so but wait the next episode? Season five,

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<v Speaker 2>episode thirty one ps I Love You Part one?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, So we have two more.

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<v Speaker 3>Two more episodes, you guys, I'm sorry, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>this season should have ended here. Yeah yeah, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>ended on Kelly's line, like that's it for the season. Boom,

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<v Speaker 3>go out on the high note. Now I'm confused. What's happening? Okay? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>To see, like, what's going to be the season finale?

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<v Speaker 2>The Walshes leave, Well, everybody do your homework watch episode

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<v Speaker 2>five Nope, Season five, episode thirty one ps I Love

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<v Speaker 2>You Part one and we will talk about it next

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<v Speaker 2>week