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Speaker 1: This episode end conversation is powered by I do say this.

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Speaker 2: Is my first Live IRL podcast, which is really exciting,

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Speaker 2: so thank you guys. It was the amazing Rich Paul.

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Speaker 2: I get to hand Rich Paul my first gift. So

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Speaker 2: I know some of you in the room, I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: familiar with the pie. But you know, the attention of

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Speaker 2: the podcast is always about you know. I really believe

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Speaker 2: that the things that we learn in our lives, and

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Speaker 2: all the lessons in our lives really are given to

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Speaker 2: us as gifts to learn more about ourselves, but also

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Speaker 2: to inform and to lift people up.

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Speaker 1: So lucky me is here now. Lebron wrote the opening.

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Speaker 2: He said, it's amazing to see my brother in full

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Speaker 2: stride and for everyone else to see what I always

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Speaker 2: saw in him. So when you flip through these pages

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Speaker 2: and you witness the kind of pain that we felt

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Speaker 2: growing up, don't flinch hard times make us stronger. That

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Speaker 2: really kind of defined why you wrote this book, Is

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Speaker 2: that right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I wanted to write something with intent. There's an education

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Speaker 3: in learning through other people's experiences. And I know for

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Speaker 3: a fact everybody in this room, but just anywhere you're

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Speaker 3: going to align with a sentence a chapter, a page,

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Speaker 1: Like what was the hardest and most I don't know

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Speaker 3: I think just getting to my mom and her struggles.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's tough and I lost both my parents,

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Speaker 3: but having to relive that time, because you know, when

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I had built this this wall because.

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Speaker 3: I you know, I would go six seven months without

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Speaker 1: That didn't exist for me. So were you a sad kid? No?

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a sad kid because I wasn't really a kid.

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Speaker 1: I was a hustle I was at five.

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Speaker 2: No, something that just sad with me. In One of

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Speaker 2: the takeaways is the way that you talk about your parents, right,

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Speaker 2: because there are a lot of struggles. There is dysfunction,

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Speaker 2: there is drug addiction. You talk very openly and honestly

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Speaker 2: and even though you didn't live with your dad because

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Speaker 1: It feels like from the way you tell the story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, my dad was my hero, so that was that.

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Speaker 3: You know, he was just such a man's man. I

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Speaker 1: But one thing my dad did too, for all of us.

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Speaker 3: He sat us down and he said, your mom is sick.

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Speaker 3: And over time, when my mom did did clean out

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Speaker 1: Actually I was at peace.

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Speaker 2: We think about so, you know, in real life and

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Speaker 2: hearing about your family life and your mom and your dad,

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Speaker 2: do that? What is the thing that gets you you?

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Speaker 2: I don't know that spares you from that and that

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Speaker 1: I'm not really a well you know, I'm not really

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Speaker 3: I've never been like A'm not a complainer.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't complain about anything that's raining for what. No,

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Speaker 1: we'll try what's try it? Right now, I'm complain about

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Speaker 1: something I can't. I don't know what you can playing?

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Speaker 1: Can you? Nothing? Really?

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Speaker 3: Outside of my new assistant, I'm saying, like, I complain

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Speaker 3: He's getting better, Guys, I don't want to don't be

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Speaker 1: I just you know, I just you even said he's

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Speaker 3: A lot of it also came from I didn't have

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Speaker 3: really nobody to complain to it. He'd be like boy

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Speaker 3: I'm going to really complain to So I just built this,

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Speaker 1: And then what has complaining ever actually solved.

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Speaker 2: That's funny because I was just gonna be about to

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Speaker 2: And so I was curious about what it taught you

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Speaker 1: Flags like what.

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Speaker 3: Insecurity I think people I think in our business, at least,

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Speaker 3: if you're going to be successful, be successful in everything.

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Speaker 3: I just think that just because you get paid a

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Speaker 3: And I think that oftentimes the people around a lot

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Speaker 2: Don't you think people get addicted to winning too. They

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Speaker 2: get addicted to success, addicted to so you become successful,

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Speaker 2: your agency is doing well, then it's like how do

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Speaker 2: then disregard, like you say, all the things that you

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Speaker 3: Never, I've never sat in success at all because again,

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Speaker 3: when you read the book, our neighborhood didn't allow us

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Speaker 3: It's a different dynamic, so I never came with that.

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Speaker 3: It's just not it's just not in me. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you may be mad at the leather jacket. I got

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Speaker 3: onto something that you know, wear some jackets. That's but

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Speaker 3: that's not definitely you know what I'm saying. Like, so

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Speaker 2: But the book, first of all, Lucky Me, which is

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Speaker 2: inspired by this jay Z.

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Speaker 1: Song, my favorite Jazus. If what is the bar from

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Speaker 3: I mean, the third verse is crazy. The bar, I

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Speaker 1: Right, let's get the picture. Let me act like you

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Speaker 1: tell you saying something real because you just but it

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Speaker 3: When he says, niggas see me in the streets and

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Speaker 3: you dissect that. But Jesus is heaven bound, So how

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna receive anything? Y'all portray the ground next time,

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Speaker 1: Don't grieve for me.

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Speaker 3: You know he talks about and he said, as my

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Speaker 3: Like if you just listen to those bars, that wasn't

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Speaker 3: what was that ninety seven, We're in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: It still resonates. But the hook in itself is what

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I was told since I was four years old, everything

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Speaker 3: world so cold, like that's that's real all that's that's

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Speaker 3: not rapping, that is real life And that's what the

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Speaker 1: So, but I was also being.

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Speaker 3: Very sarcastic too with the title, because some idiots think, like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure he's met a lot of friends over

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Speaker 2: his life, right, I don't have to you.

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Speaker 2: If I knew that, if somebody was a real hustler,

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Speaker 3: New addition made the best song? You gotta be able

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Speaker 1: He's like, yes, there's you're twenty four and what was

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Speaker 3: But the thing about it is if you make it

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you something we never panied.

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Speaker 3: No, we were, I mean we were definitely taught wrong

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Speaker 3: So you know, the goals were so small back then.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just I'm still learning a lot, but

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Speaker 1: And I've seen that, you know, throughout and so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then on top of not being vulnerable, it's

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Speaker 3: It's very difficult for you guys to really because you

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Speaker 3: And so I had to learn I had to feel

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm just saying in terms of like holistically,

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Speaker 2: And the vulnerability, how does that happen? Like do you

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Speaker 1: Are you good at that now or you're still struggling?

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Speaker 2: The only the thing I'm curious about it because in

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Speaker 3: I got emotional to you. Yeah, I got emotional form.

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Speaker 3: It's like a cat walking like what the.

440
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 2: What is? Sometimes we're more sensitive as women sometimes.

441
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: Everything and you accomplished and been through. It's a smart question.

442
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 3: Do you feel a whole at what point in your

443
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,120
Speaker 3: life did you real.

444
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: M that's the one part question. No, I don't feel whole.

445
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 1: I feel I have a lot. It's a great question.

446
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: The way it is a great question. I have so much.

447
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 3: I haven't done a lot, you know in retrospect, so

448
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 3: at least I don't feel that way. I feel like

449
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 3: it's so much room for growth. But in terms of

450
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 3: do I feel whole, No, I don't. I don't necessarily

451
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: feel whole. Do I feel inspired and driven still and

452
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 3: still in the moment? Yeah, I'm still in the moment

453
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 3: for sure.

454
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 4: When if you grew out of the environce that you

455
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 4: grew correct, what did you do in order to stay

456
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 4: motivated with all the chaos that was kind of going

457
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 4: around in your life?

458
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: Like what was it?

459
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 4: And it was like, Okay, I'm going to stay motivated

460
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 4: and continue to thrive to success.

461
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: What would you What did you do?

462
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 3: I stayed true to myself, you know, I didn't try

463
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 3: to fit in for the sake of fitting in. I

464
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 3: found people that we had like minded interests, but also

465
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 3: had some sense with the interest, you know, just playing

466
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: common sense and kind of I had great friends growing

467
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 3: I didn't really hang with like slept rock type of people,

468
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 3: and it helped me. It really helped me not fully

469
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 3: block out the noise because it's right in your face.

470
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 3: But we also didn't do stuff just for the sake

471
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: of doing it, if that makes sense, And so I

472
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 3: was always into sports. I was always in the fashion

473
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: I was always I wasn't a real raw ride type

474
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 3: of person. I'm still not that, and so because of

475
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 3: that and in a lot of ways, it saved me

476
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 3: from situations. So definitely one hundred percent. Yeah, the same

477
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: by the way, the same people then, it's the same

478
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: people now, at least the ones that's still here.

479
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

480
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always say that. I always say that to

481
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 2: my kids too. The wrong people we talked about that

482
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: in the poddle of time. The wrong people in your

483
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: circle could literally be the difference in your life, could

484
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: literally ruin your life.

485
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 3: Or a lot of it comes with you knowing who

486
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: you are too and not feeling the need to have

487
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 3: to impress somebody or or gain somebody else's well I

488
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: would I would say, they're they're validation. And if you

489
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: look back on it, the people a lot of people

490
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 3: look for people's validation and they're not even valid.

491
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially at this time, it's a weird thing.

492
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, why would you be looking for their validation

493
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: and their ticket isn't even punch Like it's a weird dynamic.

494
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: But whatever. Oh yeah, we asked that every episode. Thank

495
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: you for the reminder my love. Oh how happy? I'm honest. No,

496
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: we do this every episode.

497
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: Usually it's my introduction to conversation because it opens up

498
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: why your number is what it is. But on the

499
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 2: scale of one to ten, because we use this as

500
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: a check in, I said, hey, man, how are you?

501
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm fine.

502
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: Instead of that, you ask your friends or you ask

503
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: people you care about on a scale of one to ten. Today,

504
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: right now, how happy are you? I asked Evan that

505
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: when I walked in today, you told me what today?

506
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: You are seven?

507
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: Seven and a half today I said I was six

508
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 2: because I was annoyed. No, I'm definitely up to eight

509
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: and a half nine now Rich has lifted me up today.

510
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say. I would say a nine.

511
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, And the only reason why I'm not at

512
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: ten is because there's so many you know, I'm just

513
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 3: a driven person. So I would sound crazy to myself

514
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, just then I would be whole,

515
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 3: like he's said. Never then I would be contradicting myself.

516
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 3: So that lets you know I'm not condicting myself. No,

517
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 3: I would say a nine. I'm in a great space, like.

518
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: All day or just or just today or always all day? Yeah, always.

519
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: Is that a constant state for you? Nine? No, can't

520
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: be a nine constant thing like holistically, like every day

521
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: you're at a nine of I'm happy.

522
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: Today at some point in time. Yeah, yeah, I mean

523
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: it might dip depending on what happened somebody, you know.

524
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: But but I don't really let people interfare with my happiness.

525
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 3: I worked too hard to get here. I should I did.

526
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah nine wow, Yeah, I.

527
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: Mean, but don't get me wrong, I'm human.

528
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: So if it could dip to like, it's not dipping

529
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 3: past six, but I'll play within that six to nine space.

530
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: Now. I do get pissed off that dumb ship. You know.

531
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: That's the only thing that really really pisses me off.

532
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 3: Everything else is pretty motivated. But like when you do,

533
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah.

534
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: Not myself doing today? Yeah, not that for you? Yeah, true? Sorry,

535
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: what do.

536
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: We got more rushes I have to pick up? No,

537
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: we could do it after it's blast. We could do

538
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 2: like two more.

539
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign the books too, if it's oh amazing.

540
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi, sure, it's a small intimate room.

541
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: You don't need to.

542
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 3: Mic thanks for being here, my name even pay you

543
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: all mess. I want to know what.

544
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: Is your morning?

545
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 4: Routine or some spiritual practices or tangible tactics that we

546
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: can use implement in our daily lives to just keep

547
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 4: us sustaining that motivation.

548
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: And moments move forward.

549
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: Well, I have a new morning routine. It's a new

550
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: morning routine, not my workout. I work out every morning.

551
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: I get up very early, though, like five in the morning.

552
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: I get up at like five, yeah, sometimes four thirty.

553
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: Between four thirty and five, I get up, but I

554
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: work out at seven thirty. And then of late, I

555
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: get into sunda, as my friend Bob would say, sauna,

556
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 3: and then I get in the cold, which I just

557
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: started doing that. I wouldn't necessarily say, jump right into that.

558
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: That's tough. I did. I did. I was at vv's house.

559
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: I did thirty four degrees two twenty eight in asana

560
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: and thirty four degrees in the cold. It was what

561
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 3: it does for man ouch. No, I'm saying, yeah, that

562
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 3: is that was that was crazy. It's not that and

563
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: my house is not that cold like that. But that

564
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: was some That was crazy. But but I did it though,

565
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: and I didn't think I was going to do it.

566
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: But it just tells you how strong the mind is.

567
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: And by the turn. The third time, I because we

568
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: did this three times hot cold hot. By the third time,

569
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 3: I was put my whole face in it at thirty

570
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: four degrees.

571
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: So that was really but.

572
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 3: I felt amazing, So I started I kept doing it,

573
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: so I do do that, and then after that is

574
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: zoom nation.

575
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: After that it's not zoom nation.

576
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: Everything is a damn zoom sure, And you know, in

577
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: a good way. And we had a lot of internal

578
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: meetings and you you know you have.

579
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you something about what she said

580
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: about that, because you talk about discipline a lot in

581
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: the book too. What is the Is there something in

582
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: your head that because we all tell ourselves things. What

583
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: is the story we tell ourselves to get whatever done?

584
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: When you when you're managing that discipline that you have,

585
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: is there something that you tell yourself? Is there a

586
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: trick to the discipline?

587
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: Is there? Well?

588
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: When I when I used to so the discipline really

589
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: comes from dice shooting, like.

590
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: I was looking for my son thing my son to

591
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: take away. It's not I wasn't. That's what I'm gonna

592
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: get to it though.

593
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: It's like so I used to practice the same shot

594
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: over and over and it's no different than somebody be

595
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: in the backyard going hi or three two one and

596
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: he hits the shot. I did that with dice, just

597
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: over and over and over again. If I got on

598
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: punishment didn't matter. I would just practice more and whatever.

599
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: And then it led to obviously, you know, I did

600
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: the same thing jump shooting. The discipline also comes within

601
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: the willingness too, because you have to be willing to

602
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: be disciplined or to discipline yourself, and then you and

603
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: then you just compound those habits and if you practice

604
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: doing things the right way, they become routine.

605
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.

606
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: I just think the words sometimes the words we tell

607
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: ourselves help us, like if I'm off track, like you say,

608
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: off my square, yeah, sometimes, or if I if things

609
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: are not going right, I'll tell myself, uh, you're maybe

610
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: you're doing it for yourself too much.

611
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe how do you put it out? How do

612
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: you put that energy outword? How do you serve?

613
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: How do you so I'll take it out of the ego,

614
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: take it out of coming inside for me, like something

615
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: that I want, I want that, I want that to

616
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: be mine. I want to conquer that, and then it

617
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: doesn't happen. Then what do you tell yourself to keep going.

618
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: The thing sometimes I tell myself to keep going is

619
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: it's not about you get out the way, because you.

620
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, there's no room for complacency. I

621
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: try not to ever get complacent ever.

622
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, good practices, and you've implemented.

623
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: For your thing.

624
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: No, I've been trying to meditate a little bit here. Yeah,

625
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: I did a few times. It was actually good. No phone,

626
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: no nothing, just no TV on or nothing, just for

627
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: like twenty minutes to start today. I've done that a

628
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: few times.

629
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: It's good.

630
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: Works out, okay. I mean, you know, it's just hard

631
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: to do all the time.

632
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: But it was good. Good, it was good. It's good.

633
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: I should try. I'm gonna try more often. It's gotta

634
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: be good. There's nothing that bad that could come out

635
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: of that.

636
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: And I'm just saying, but there's something you could do,

637
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: like you know, yeah, it's just like a word and

638
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 3: you just yeah, but it was good. Oh my god,

639
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: I don't know why I had to start. Is CJ

640
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: still here?

641
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: Can I tell this story about us being at that

642
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: house the other day and him telling us the thing

643
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: that you that he gave you. You know what I'm

644
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: talking about can I share that? It would be weird

645
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: if you said no. Right, I'm putting on the spot.

646
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: I took young CJ. Here.

647
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: This is CJ.

648
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: Wallace, Christopher wall Okay, we're in Brooklyn.

649
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: Home, you know what I mean? G forever in Brooklyn.

650
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: So we were having a conversation with somebody and he

651
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: was asking him about what he wanted to do. We

652
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: were talking to Tracy Morgan because he's acting. Also he's

653
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: actually a really good actor. Anybody has a lot of

654
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: things he wants to do. So Tracy Morgan asked him,

655
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 2: so what do you so, what do you want to do?

656
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, this fashion and art, I'm doing art

657
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: and I got the acting and I got you ran

658
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: down like ten things Tracy.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tracey is crazy in a good way. He

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Speaker 1: was like, you can't do all that shit.

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Speaker 2: You gotta do one thing and master that and then

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Speaker 2: you could go do whatever else you want to do.

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Speaker 1: But what are you gonna master? You got to pick

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Speaker 1: the one thing to master it. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you needed to hear that, but when he said

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Speaker 1: it to you, it resonated for me. I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh shit, that's actually really good because.

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Speaker 3: That was also said to me, was it yeah, this

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Speaker 3: might have been Was it Tracy Morgan?

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Speaker 1: Was that it kid?

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Speaker 3: No, it was Maverick said it to me. It might

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Speaker 3: have been two thousand and six. He was like, bro,

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Speaker 3: you good at every you one person. I know that

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Speaker 3: you're good at every literally good at everything. But you

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Speaker 3: got to pick one thing and you will be great

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Speaker 3: at that mm because we was we was doing our

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Speaker 3: new offices in Cleveland or something, and we just you know,

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Speaker 3: we talk all the time, and we lived together.

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Speaker 1: We talked even to this day. We talk all the time.

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Speaker 3: But he said that to me because you know, I

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Speaker 3: was coming in and used to hustling.

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Speaker 1: So you're doing it all. We get all.

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Speaker 3: I mean if you yeah, why not you know. And

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Speaker 3: so he's like, yeah, but pick be great at something.

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Speaker 3: If you if you chose one thing, you would be.

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Speaker 1: Great at it. That's what he said to me. So

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Speaker 1: he was right, and so I took that.

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Speaker 3: And but you know, again you talk about having real friends,

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Speaker 3: you know, And it was his willingness to say it

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Speaker 3: and my willingness to be open minded and not so

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Speaker 3: into myself to listen.

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Speaker 1: And that's the approach I took.

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Speaker 2: Bar Well, you got greatness. And you were saying before

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Speaker 2: you wanted to uh impact. Yeah, I feel like the

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Speaker 2: book will impact. I feel the RUP was impacted today

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Speaker 2: but was great.

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Speaker 1: Sure. Thank you guys so much for everything, for your time.

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Speaker 1: You appreciate me. You have a sharp You're gonna sign

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Speaker 1: some books. Yeah, I'm just gonna sign it right here.

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Speaker 2: Really, guys, really be on today though. I really encourage

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Speaker 2: you to take time. I know we all have busy lives,

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Speaker 2: but don't just have the book on your shelf.

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Speaker 1: Really read it.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of gems in there. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of takeaways. It's a beautiful story. And thank you rich

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Speaker 2: today so much for I appreciate we couldn't you know what,

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Speaker 2: we actually could have done a podcast because have been dope.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm not now, I'm not afraid. We talked about

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Speaker 1: it later