WEBVTT - Inside the Hardest Job Application Process in the World

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<v Speaker 1>sense that the voter is going to throw you out.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine that that in a workplace environment where you're always

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<v Speaker 1>a little concerned that the boss is scrutinizing you, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got half the office is always against you and

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<v Speaker 1>working on ways to throw you out. It's a unique job.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to game Plan, a show about our lives at work.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Rebecca Greenfield, a reporter for Bloomberg where I cover

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<v Speaker 1>the workplace, and I am Sam Grobert, a writer at

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg business Week magazine. And since it's election season, we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to lean into that and we are doing

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<v Speaker 1>an election theme episode. Who are we to shy away

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<v Speaker 1>from the allures of this beautiful election season? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody cares about anything else, including us. So this week

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<v Speaker 1>we are talking about the hardest job application in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>which is running for president of the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's basically what it is. It's somebody going in

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<v Speaker 1>front of three million people and saying, please hire me,

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<v Speaker 1>and and the best person obviously gets the job, like

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<v Speaker 1>it works in the actual application, total meritocracy every time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>As we've talked about in a previous episode, the hiring

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<v Speaker 1>process in the corporate world has its flaws and doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>always lead to the best person for the best job,

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<v Speaker 1>and the same as probably true for running for presidents. Perhaps.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure everybody has heard some crazy stories about the

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<v Speaker 1>hoops that companies like Google or Facebook make their applicants

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<v Speaker 1>jump through with crazy questions and quizzes and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Those compare not at all to the rigors and the

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<v Speaker 1>insanity really of running for the presidency the United States. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>To get a better sense of how ridiculous it actually is,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked to campaign managers who worked with Marco Rubio,

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Cruz, Bernie Sanders, and Rand Paul and these are

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<v Speaker 1>the ways that they described the process. Ran for president

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<v Speaker 1>is like taking your your personal diary, your resume, your

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<v Speaker 1>entire life history and putting it out in front of

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of millions of people and saying pick me, pick

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<v Speaker 1>me a baseball guy and I used to be an umpire,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would equate it to being an umpire where

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<v Speaker 1>you have to start perfect and get better. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be like a like a reality TV show, or you

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<v Speaker 1>walk through fire into a shark's mouth. Every four years,

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<v Speaker 1>people choose to go through this insane election process. But

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<v Speaker 1>the more we talked to campaign managers, we realized is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot like the job application process that we all

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<v Speaker 1>go through, but of course a million times crazier. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>how okay, So when we're thinking about the regular person

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<v Speaker 1>job application process, the first step is to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you're even qualified for the job, right. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to know yourself, you have to know the position. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to make sure that those things both make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And if there's something that might dis qualify you, like

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<v Speaker 1>a gap in your resume or a really incriminating social

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<v Speaker 1>media post, it's probably the time to deal with that

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe not proceed. And candidates basically do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Jeff Row, campaign manager for Ted Cruz. I would

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<v Speaker 1>start with an immediate, deep dive background investigation in their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first thing. What at some point in this

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<v Speaker 1>campaign or we're gonna have to deal with So what

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<v Speaker 1>is the culture of the campaign. What should people who

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<v Speaker 1>joy in the campaign? What should there priorities and which

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<v Speaker 1>what what will they be joining? What are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to get? What's your value proposition for supporting this candidate?

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<v Speaker 1>And it really becomes kind of a branding and marketing

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<v Speaker 1>deep level strategy. Once you've scrubbed your record clean, you've

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<v Speaker 1>made yourself as presentable as possible, you're going to want

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<v Speaker 1>to put yourself out there. You have to start talking

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<v Speaker 1>to people. Even though it is not exactly like our

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<v Speaker 1>job application processes, that is kind of how the job

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<v Speaker 1>application process starts. For anybody, you network, you do some networking,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's exactly what the presidential candidates do, at least

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<v Speaker 1>according to Jeff Weaver, who is Bernie Sanders campaign manager.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit like networking. You're bending the metaphor

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But there is only one company, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the American public. And the question is where are

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<v Speaker 1>they and what are they looking for? The question is

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<v Speaker 1>are you a good fit for what the American people

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<v Speaker 1>are looking for at a given a moment in in

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<v Speaker 1>our in our nation's history. You know, you really have

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<v Speaker 1>to do uh, really honest self value about whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>the person at this particular time in history that the

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<v Speaker 1>American people will respond to. So the thing about this

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<v Speaker 1>process is even at the very beginning, once you begin it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a full time job, right. It's in addition to

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<v Speaker 1>the job you probably already have, just like when you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a job yourself. And that to me just

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like it places extraordinary stresses on your day to

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<v Speaker 1>day existence. Yeah, it obviously does when you're applying for

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<v Speaker 1>a job you and me, and it definitely does when

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<v Speaker 1>you're applying for the job of president. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how Terry Sullivan, who was Marco Rubio's campaign manager,

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<v Speaker 1>explained it to us, just just ridiculously growing it a

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<v Speaker 1>bang on their courtyard Marriott room door at five am

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<v Speaker 1>because the Fox News has set up for a live

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<v Speaker 1>TV hit in the room next door, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to go over and you a smile and look away

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<v Speaker 1>can alert it by six am in the morning in

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<v Speaker 1>some hotel room in Iowa and get ball questions whiz

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<v Speaker 1>that you and then booth you're out and you're down

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<v Speaker 1>in the lobby, cramming in whatever free breakfast you can

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<v Speaker 1>before you're onto the next event. You get four or

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<v Speaker 1>five speeches a day, always in multiple cities, but often

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<v Speaker 1>in uh in multiple states. You generally are checking into

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<v Speaker 1>your hotel room at eleven o'clock twelve o'clock at night,

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<v Speaker 1>ready to do it all over again. And and you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's something that's striking is working for marcar Roullo.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a guy who's got a real life.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be on the phone with his kids, face timing

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<v Speaker 1>with them good night, you know, every night, will be

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<v Speaker 1>on to the next event, or helping with their homework

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<v Speaker 1>or things real world things like that, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the issues around the house. The water heater stopped working

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got to stop and deal with that. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're running for president United States. So it is a

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<v Speaker 1>very demanding job that lasts from when you wake up

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<v Speaker 1>to when you go to sleep. But you also have

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<v Speaker 1>the same real life things to deal with that you

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<v Speaker 1>would if you weren't writing for president. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of your world stops. All the campaign managers

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<v Speaker 1>we talked to described similarly insane schedules, which isn't really surprising. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they basically all we're saying, oh, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just a marathon or a sprint. It's a marathon

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<v Speaker 1>and a sprint. Yeah, it's not kind of you know

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<v Speaker 1>reality for all of these people pursuing this office, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like not even possible to do everything that you

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<v Speaker 1>need to do to properly apply for the job, which

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<v Speaker 1>is very frustrating, and yet here you are and everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>watching you do it. Here's Chip Englander, who worked on

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<v Speaker 1>the Rand Paul campaign, describing a little bit more of

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<v Speaker 1>that slog. Typically, you have fundraising demands, which can involve

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<v Speaker 1>both phone calls and in person stuff. There's the meeting

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<v Speaker 1>of the voters, right the rallies and the meet and greets.

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<v Speaker 1>There's individual press demands, interviews and the interviews and the such.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's the logistical demands, you know, going through the

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<v Speaker 1>schedule or these events. Are these the things that we

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<v Speaker 1>want to do, But then because of the presidential campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do all of these things everywhere. So

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<v Speaker 1>all of the sounds insane to me, and you and

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<v Speaker 1>I have talked about how we don't under stand how anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone like our two candidates right now who are

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<v Speaker 1>pushing seventy people, do this without completely burning out. If

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the stress, you go through on your

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<v Speaker 1>own job search and maybe the rounds of interviews that

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<v Speaker 1>you have. I mean, it's very easy to start to

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<v Speaker 1>feel mentally and physically exhausted. And you know, look, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a spry forty two year old, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>these people are darned close to twice my age, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing it on the road through different time zones,

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<v Speaker 1>totally freaked out and still have to look totally perfectly polished,

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<v Speaker 1>although obviously not always in the case of some candidates. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and the campaign managers had a couple of different

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<v Speaker 1>strategies for how they deal with this. One of them

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<v Speaker 1>was to try their hardest to get the candidates to

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<v Speaker 1>not work sometimes. And here's Jeff Row on how he

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<v Speaker 1>did that. Trying to have a can'd rest is key.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sleep as a weapon in a campaign, And

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<v Speaker 1>so you try and keep your candon weaponized. So you

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<v Speaker 1>warm them up with a small group setting, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you go into one on one and phone calls one

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<v Speaker 1>on one individually in person, and phone calls means that

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<v Speaker 1>it's fact. The matter is, when you run for president,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hand to hand combat. You're one of these voters

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<v Speaker 1>one at a time. But it's important in a campaign

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<v Speaker 1>to try and keep at a minimum of ten and

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<v Speaker 1>then if you can twelve hours of essentially no interpersonal

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<v Speaker 1>contact so they can actually be a human for a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes. Today, when candidates get tired of when they

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<v Speaker 1>make mistakes, there's another thing candidates can do to help

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<v Speaker 1>them through some low energy times, and that's to have

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<v Speaker 1>a really well developed stump speech. And if you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>gone through multiple interviews, you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>You sort of have a prepackaged line or ten about

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<v Speaker 1>yourself that you're gonna just use over and over again,

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<v Speaker 1>because of course, to the person who's hearing it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the first time for them. And the benefit of this,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, is that you can do it pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>in your sleep. In Sanader Sanders a case, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he relied very heavily on on a pretty exhaustive stump

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<v Speaker 1>speech that talked about, you know, a whole lot of issues.

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<v Speaker 1>It was quite lengthy by the end of the campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>probably an hour and a half hour and forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>But his use of a sort of standard stump speech

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<v Speaker 1>allowed him to do many more events than a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other candidates because you know, even when tired, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he had used that speech so many times

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<v Speaker 1>he was very familiar with it. All happens when the

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<v Speaker 1>this process, and you did all the networking, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have miraculously not burned out, and you wrote a cover

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<v Speaker 1>letter and a resume, and you you did it all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll make it to the final step of the process.

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<v Speaker 1>As which for regular job applicants like me and you,

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<v Speaker 1>it is an interview, and for candidates it is also

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<v Speaker 1>an interview of sorts, but one that's in front of

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<v Speaker 1>nine million people. The debate here's Terry Sullivan on that

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like you're sitting across from one person who's

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<v Speaker 1>doing the hiring. You're sitting across from millions of people

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<v Speaker 1>doing the hiring, and honestly a lot of them don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what they want. It is not as cut and

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<v Speaker 1>drive as Okay, here's here's the job description for this

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<v Speaker 1>job that we're hiring for. We need you to do X,

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<v Speaker 1>or we need you to do why. It is much

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<v Speaker 1>more an emotional connection. This is someone just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>live in your living room on the TV set for

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<v Speaker 1>the next four years. It's not just qualification driven. It's

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<v Speaker 1>personality driven. And you'd rather have someone that you can

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<v Speaker 1>drink a beer with than someone that necessarily knows all

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<v Speaker 1>the answers to all the questions, you know. Back of

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<v Speaker 1>The funny thing to me about these debates is that,

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<v Speaker 1>in many ways we talk about them the same way

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<v Speaker 1>people talk a little bit about job into views. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this idea and job interviews that what are you

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<v Speaker 1>looking for? Are you looking for culture fit, somebody you

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<v Speaker 1>get along with, somebody you like, someone you can see

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<v Speaker 1>working at the company, somebody who also likes ping pong?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are you looking for somebody who has the skills?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean ideally both, sure, but maybe one colors the

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<v Speaker 1>decision more than it should. That's right, And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing we've seen in politics, right, there's always

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of proverbial who would you rather have a

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<v Speaker 1>beer with as opposed to who is the most knowledgeable

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<v Speaker 1>and competent individual on matters of policy. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some really talented people that get passed over for this

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<v Speaker 1>job because they seem a little awkward. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you could argue that this was the two thousand twelvers

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<v Speaker 1>in a nut show. Robney was a guy and came

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<v Speaker 1>in for the job interview. You saw his resume, it

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<v Speaker 1>was spot on perfect for the job, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, you just didn't feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>identified with him as much as you did the other applicant.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just someone I'm hired for a job

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<v Speaker 1>with someone I want to live with. This ide of

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<v Speaker 1>picking a president based on style was something that all

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<v Speaker 1>the campaign managers we talked to almost had a problem with.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, somebody brought up how Donald Trump sniffing and

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton's glances got more media time than the answer

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<v Speaker 1>on isis for example, And yeah, you can see how

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't great. And this sort of increased role of

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<v Speaker 1>the media, which eventually starts to change the very character

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<v Speaker 1>of the process so it's no longer actually serving the

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<v Speaker 1>same goal anymore. It's somebody who can be sort of

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<v Speaker 1>more entertaining might have an advantage, which you also see

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<v Speaker 1>that a little bit in job interviews, that like the

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<v Speaker 1>hail fellow well met can sort of slide his way

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<v Speaker 1>into jobs that the otherwise better served by other people

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<v Speaker 1>like the man who interviews Well, we'll get the job

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<v Speaker 1>even if he can't do the job, which obviously is

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<v Speaker 1>not what we want for our coworkers or our president. No,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all, But that was just one of the

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<v Speaker 1>problems that our campaign managers had with the process. Here

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<v Speaker 1>are a couple others. The an inordinate amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>that is required to run a campaign makes it prohibitive

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<v Speaker 1>for many many, I think, very qualified people to run

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<v Speaker 1>for president of the United States. So that's the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing I would change. I would create some kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, public financing system that was sufficiently generous that

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<v Speaker 1>an unknown candidate could get his or her name out,

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<v Speaker 1>but also prevented uh the overwhelming advantage that establishment candidates

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<v Speaker 1>have in terms of being able to fundraise, And obviously

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<v Speaker 1>that fundraising doesn't guarantee them success, but it certainly gives

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<v Speaker 1>them a big leg up in the interview process. And

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<v Speaker 1>the second thing I would say is that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we really need to have and you know, the media

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<v Speaker 1>plays a role this obviously popular culture does, but we

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<v Speaker 1>really need to return to a focus on the issues

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<v Speaker 1>and positions of the candidates rather than a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the either personal issues or the sort of style points.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, not everybody in life is a saint.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously Donald Trump is is the anti saint,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, his behavior is so egregious that

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<v Speaker 1>it's disqualifying. But there are a lot of other people

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<v Speaker 1>who I'm sure have had missed at tax deadline or

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<v Speaker 1>have had some personal failing in their life. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think there are a lot of really good and qualified

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<v Speaker 1>people who really don't want to have that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>dragged out and become the focus of a campaign. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think we we just qualify a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>really good people from running for public office by overly

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on you know, personal foibles, the impact of the

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<v Speaker 1>news cycle and the power of the media in politics.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's gonna have to be something done. Maybe we're

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<v Speaker 1>in an ally er cycle that won't happen again because

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is Trump and Clinton is Clinton. But I'm afraid

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<v Speaker 1>that this is the first of what will be the

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<v Speaker 1>likeliest of scenarios. Which is the number one indicator of

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to win a presidential campaign, particularly in the primaries,

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<v Speaker 1>listed in the general, particularly in the primaries, is who

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<v Speaker 1>gets the most media share. We spend in our campaigns,

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<v Speaker 1>and presidential campaigns in general, spend truly almost your entire campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>outside of fundraising, working on how you're impacting the media share,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you get the attention? And it killed in

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<v Speaker 1>the primary system when when you have thresholds for debate

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<v Speaker 1>stages and you have to get to a certain debate,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to get to a certain percentage, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>advertise grassroots funder. You just can't. You can't buy enough

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<v Speaker 1>media in a primary to move your numbers. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to get more media share. Ted Cruz was not going

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<v Speaker 1>to make the debate stage, the first debate stage. He

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<v Speaker 1>was right, He's right on the bubble. He publishes a book,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was, you know, of some sort of symmetrical

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of the campaign because it was the candidate he

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about his book, But it was negligible in

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<v Speaker 1>the polling until The New York Times left him off

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<v Speaker 1>the best seller list and say didn't sell enough books.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we had a huge fight with the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times. Every media outlet covered it for entire ten

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<v Speaker 1>days completely. Over the fourth July weekend, his poll numbers

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<v Speaker 1>moved three point three points because of all the attention

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<v Speaker 1>in the media share and we make it the main

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<v Speaker 1>stage comfortably. Now that's kind of ridiculous. Well, we all

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<v Speaker 1>have to shorten the campaign process, but you just can't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. This is a big job we're hiring for

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to put parameters on it and on the

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<v Speaker 1>application process isn't helpful. And just letting it be raw

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<v Speaker 1>and be very open, I think is the is the

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<v Speaker 1>best way to do it. And it's almost a darkwinning

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. A survival of it is. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that we should just accept the flawed process for

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. I don't agree with that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that there's something to be said for surviving

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<v Speaker 1>the process and that being a mark of your ability

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<v Speaker 1>to be president. Yeah. I mean, if you think about

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<v Speaker 1>all the things we've been talking about in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and all these campaign managers have been saying, running for

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<v Speaker 1>president is a test of a candidate's ability to be

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<v Speaker 1>a CEO, to delegate sponsibility, to handle different issues under

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<v Speaker 1>a pressure filled environment, and do all of that at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time and project an image of authority and leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you can do all of that, one

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<v Speaker 1>would hope that you can carry those skills into the

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<v Speaker 1>Oval office. And if you can't, well maybe then the

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<v Speaker 1>oval office isn't right for you. Yeah. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the first step to showing that you're qualified to being

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<v Speaker 1>president is being elected president exactly. And now it's time

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<v Speaker 1>for half big takes. Half fake takes. Half big takes

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<v Speaker 1>are when we say some opinions right here on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right as opposed to all the other opinions we've

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<v Speaker 1>been saying. Right, No, those are well researched. Oh right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right, right right? Half opinions is what we

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<v Speaker 1>say on half bakedings. All right, so let me just

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<v Speaker 1>drop this in here for a second. Fellas, here's what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear from you in the men's room.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it what you did there, that's right. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>into the chit chat. I'm not going to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>how your day's been going or what you're working on. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>not the time for that. If you feel the need

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<v Speaker 1>to offer any sort of verbal anything, the only acceptable

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<v Speaker 1>thing you can say is this, Hey, I think nobody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to talk in the bathroom mail or not true,

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<v Speaker 1>not true at all. Some people look at it as

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<v Speaker 1>a tremendous opportunity, feel uncomfortable and they don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>It's real simple. Not if you want, Hey, if you must,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, and that's it. I've definitely agree. I agree. Great, great,

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<v Speaker 1>half big take. My half big take is about the

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<v Speaker 1>fun topic of passwords. I was just asked to change

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<v Speaker 1>one of my three thousand passwords and I started working

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<v Speaker 1>here where everything on the same password, and now all

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<v Speaker 1>ten things I signed into are all different things. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't use old passwords. I'm running out of passwords. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very strang us full. Basically, I want a solution. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my half big take. I'm really looking forward to fingerprints. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's going to ultimately get us where we

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<v Speaker 1>need to be, where the password doesn't matter anymore. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I want something to just not have to remember all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things. I know there's like password software. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been using a little bit of that, but it's still

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<v Speaker 1>just a band aid over a much bigger problems. Act

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<v Speaker 1>fix the problem. That's my half big take, and this

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