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Speaker 1: we come. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Yes, I am Rashaan McDonald,

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Speaker 1: and you are listening to money making Conversations. Great show,

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Speaker 1: people of color are winning. We're winning in entertainment, we're

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Speaker 1: the subject of my next guest in this new book,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Good morning. I know he just landed in

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Speaker 1: of lost it before charities, he said this the husband

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Speaker 1: music producer who was kind of a philander himself, and

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Speaker 1: and now she wants to preach. But isn't that something

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Speaker 1: how offsprings of spiritual leaders or offsprings of you know,

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Speaker 1: in many churches, how often you do see the children

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Speaker 1: corporation absolutely absolutely. That's why I feel deserving to to

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Speaker 1: to to inherit the business. That's why it's so important

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Speaker 1: to listen to this look at this show this season,

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Speaker 1: because I felt that I was just gonna let you

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Speaker 1: know this, you know, this season to meet Lyn. When

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Speaker 1: I look at the characters are fully developed. Now, you know,

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Speaker 1: Grace got issues with a J. Nor now knows that

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Speaker 1: a J is his son and he knew nothing about that,

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Speaker 1: you know, dealing with that, you know. You know, now

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Speaker 1: the bishop trying to get back with you because you're

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Speaker 1: living in the same matchion. Charis are trying to get

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Speaker 1: our house and they can sell some land. Charity now

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Speaker 1: she's she's spying. She's the spy because Phil has assured her.

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Speaker 1: Once she gets once they kicked Grace out, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be head pastor and he's gonna move up to a

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Speaker 1: p I know. So now Charity has this Jezebel slash

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Speaker 1: Judi spirit all over. I don't know. Oh Lord, these children,

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Speaker 1: I love it. I tell you, Lady may, I want

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Speaker 1: to thank you for coming on my show. You know,

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Speaker 1: I am a fan of you and I'm a fan

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Speaker 1: Along with me when you when you're on Instagram, because

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Speaker 1: working on this show this season. Lynn, Thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on my show, Money Making Conversations. Money Making Conversations

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Speaker 1: Your health plays a major role in your success. What

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Speaker 1: with the money making Conversations. Coach Jesse Thompson, Good morning. Hello,

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Speaker 1: so exciting to be a part of this conversation. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're not about just creating generational wealth for generational health,

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Speaker 1: so this is an important conversation today. Well that's why

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Speaker 1: I started. Your health plays a major role in your success, Yes, sir, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: yes sir. Well you're talking to an all time bad

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Speaker 1: eater here, so uh so we're gonna help you out,

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Speaker 1: help me my wife she's over there, she's trying. She's trying,

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Speaker 1: you know, but and I keep breaking her down because

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna I'm refusing to do the

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Speaker 1: right thing, but I do the right thing periodically. But

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Speaker 1: great having you on the show. My first question want

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Speaker 1: to Coach Jesse Thompson. How did your journey lead you

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Speaker 1: to being coach Jesse Thompson. Well, first, please feel free

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Speaker 1: to just call me Coach Jesse because the Thompson makes

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Speaker 1: it even longer, so that saves some time. Like I

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Speaker 1: understand you people might google. I want to let everybody

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Speaker 1: know what I'm talking to it first. The rest of

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Speaker 1: thee will be Coach Jess appreciated. Well, you know, it

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Speaker 1: started out with my own help struggle with sean um.

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Speaker 1: It was battling, you know, as one of the of

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Speaker 1: black women who battles five words by age fifty. And

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Speaker 1: you know, this is not just an epidemic that affects

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Speaker 1: Black women, but it affects up to women at large.

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Speaker 1: So this is a female epidemic, okay, but when you

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Speaker 1: look at us as Black women, it affects up to

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Speaker 1: nine of us because it affects as disproportionately. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: and I bet them. I battled fibroids, uterine fibroids, which

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Speaker 1: are small, small um tumors that form in the uterine

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Speaker 1: lining or inside the uterus um. But you know in

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Speaker 1: many places in the uterus um specifically, they cause things

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Speaker 1: such as um telvic pain um, heavy heavy severe bleeding

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Speaker 1: that is really more hemorrhaging to a meat that causes

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Speaker 1: anemia um as well as you know, severe conditions that

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Speaker 1: even lead to cardiac arrest um. And the critical thing

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Speaker 1: here is that it is an epidemic, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: know it was when I was battling it. So I

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Speaker 1: battled them for fourteen years, and ten of those years

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Speaker 1: actually battled in fertility that was caused by the fibroids

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Speaker 1: I saw myself. I ended up UM, I ended up

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Speaker 1: at actually experiencing twelve surgeries, five of them major surgeries.

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Speaker 1: Five of them were four or five boys, and five

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Speaker 1: of them were for complications from those five boys. And

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Speaker 1: because of the infertility that the five birds were causing,

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Speaker 1: my husband and I struggled, as I said, to conceive. UM,

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Speaker 1: we had a devastating miscarriage. And October is actually Pregnancy

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Speaker 1: and Instant Loss Awareness month. UM, So I really I'm

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Speaker 1: sharing love for those women who the day actually is

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Speaker 1: October fifteenth is the day and the month is October.

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Speaker 1: But I know what it's like to lose a child, um,

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Speaker 1: And many people don't even realize how that mentally breaks

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Speaker 1: you down in this whole process. It's just a whole

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Speaker 1: other animal, you understands. So we underwent five IVF cycles

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Speaker 1: to try to conceive. And that's a real financial blow rashan,

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Speaker 1: because you know, advanced reproductive technologies such as in vitro

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Speaker 1: fertilization are not typically especially when I was doing it, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, more than years ago, it was not covered

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Speaker 1: by insurance, and we had to come out of pockets

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Speaker 1: sometimes ten fifteen m twenty dollars at a time in

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Speaker 1: the stam So you can see how financial stress um

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Speaker 1: only really it multiplied the overall effect of what we

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Speaker 1: were going through health wise. Um. And you know, finally

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Speaker 1: we conceived as the result of our fifth IF cycle.

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Speaker 1: And even then after we thought, you know, oh we're

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Speaker 1: in the we're in we're in the clear now um

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Speaker 1: At at twenty one weeks, you know, my doctor actually

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Speaker 1: sat across the table from me and at at a

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Speaker 1: regular consult um and said to me that we needed

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Speaker 1: to consider terminating our pregnancy. That took us ten years

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Speaker 1: to achieve at that time. So Rashan, you can imagine,

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Speaker 1: I remember that moment. I can always put myself back

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Speaker 1: in that moment, and I remember something bizing up within

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Speaker 1: me as a woman of faith and saying no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: we are eavers, We are people of faith, and we

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Speaker 1: didn't struggle in battle for ten years to not give

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Speaker 1: this baby a chance. We believe in miracles. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: six weeks later, I was admitted to the hospital because

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Speaker 1: the condition worse. And then it was because Rashaun, the

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Speaker 1: fire woods had grown and they were now competing with

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Speaker 1: the baby for the life by life store which is

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Speaker 1: a blood so literally it was sipening off the blood

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Speaker 1: supply that was supposed to be going to the child.

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Speaker 1: So the condition was something called fetal growth restrictions. The

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Speaker 1: baby was not growing enough. Right, So here we are,

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Speaker 1: they're telling me everything. This baby is not supposed to

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Speaker 1: be here. This baby is not supposed to live. But

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Speaker 1: you know, as I said, we have prayer worries all

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Speaker 1: as our faith. Yes, and even though even at the

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Speaker 1: last minute on the delivery table, you know, my heart

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Speaker 1: stopped on the delivery table, but we both made it

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Speaker 1: through and I was happy to say that we gave

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Speaker 1: birth to my new for amazing miracle baby via Madison,

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Speaker 1: which means purposeful warrior because she's literally that she epitomizes

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Speaker 1: that on September eighth, two thousand eleven, at two and

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Speaker 1: a half pounds. Well, I know where the baby or

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Speaker 1: new child, uh we did for me. Give your future

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Speaker 1: gives you a sense of clearly understanding your purpose and

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Speaker 1: the positivity and watching that this is a blank slate

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Speaker 1: that you brought into the world. Anything that you that

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Speaker 1: what you're giving this child is what's going to determine

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Speaker 1: their future. All the emotions, all the structure. So our congratulations, congratulations,

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Speaker 1: thank you. And you know what, Sean, what was the

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Speaker 1: crazy thing is that when I birthed her, she birthed

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Speaker 1: me into my work and purpose. Because when UM the

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Speaker 1: first year of our life, Essence magazine did a profile

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Speaker 1: on our story called My Fertility Journey, and it went viral.

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Speaker 1: For Sean, it was women all over the world pouring

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Speaker 1: in comments and sharing it and telling me, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for sharing your story. Your story has given

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Speaker 1: me hope. You don't know I've had this many surgeries.

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Speaker 1: I've been trying to concede for this long. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: right now. You don't understand. I was ready to give up.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing, and they had been suffering in

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Speaker 1: silence because remember, I thought it was just my own

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Speaker 1: personal health. I didn't know an epidemic and epidemic. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know that millions of women were battling this because

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Speaker 1: we were talking about it right so here it was

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Speaker 1: this now gave me awareness of how and how ethic

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Speaker 1: this was. And I was like, wait a minute, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, where are the marches, Where are the you know,

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Speaker 1: the the awareness UM campaigns, and where the campaigns? You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, this is affecting women seventy of

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Speaker 1: women at large, what in the world. And I started

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Speaker 1: to do advocacy work for Shan. I started to you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: participate in congressional briefings and and and on panels and

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Speaker 1: alongside g y n s. And what I realized at

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Speaker 1: that time and that it was it was the same

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Speaker 1: story that they were telling, was the same story they

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Speaker 1: had been telling me, that we don't know what causes it,

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Speaker 1: we don't know, it just happens. And I said, that's

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Speaker 1: not that's not it can't be true. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Rashwan that just said it to me, And

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Speaker 1: I said a prayer. I remember, I said, sitting up

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Speaker 1: in my room where I said, God, this can't be right.

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Speaker 1: Can you can I be part of the cure? And

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Speaker 1: I remember heusly, like literally at that time, I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize it, but the fire words were still coming back again. Okay,

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Speaker 1: after I had my daughter right and I came to

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Speaker 1: this point where finally traditional medicine failed me. Rashaan, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but the food is becoming engaging to people like me,

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Speaker 1: that you're winding up, that you're becoming a sellable and

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Speaker 1: marketable to the general public now. And it's really interesting

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Speaker 1: because big money now big money, because it's really interesting

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Speaker 1: because the people made this change. You know what I said,

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Speaker 1: we don't want, you know, this product that has all

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Speaker 1: this sugar. We don't want this fried food, and so

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00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: we want to know what the calories are, what exactly

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Speaker 1: are we eating at these various restaurants put it on

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Speaker 1: the menu so we know. So we as a people

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00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: decided we want to know. And so the industry to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: we can't keep fooling them now, like you said earlier

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00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: about that medicine, we can't keep fooling We gotta start

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00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: telling them. And then they said, okay, now long do

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Speaker 1: we have to start telling them because they're not even

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Speaker 1: buying the product that we are forcing on them, Like

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Speaker 1: we're saying, this is your only option to eat this

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Speaker 1: type of food or this type of candy or this

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Speaker 1: type of cake. We're going to have to adjust our menus,

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Speaker 1: adjust our our products on our store shaps to say

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Speaker 1: we hear you, here you are, and that's why our

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Speaker 1: person like me enjoying the impossible burger, which they have

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Speaker 1: they have the wall Burgs has an impossible burger Burger

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Speaker 1: King when all these places, but I've been at Burger

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Speaker 1: King three times. It's great. I enjoyed. I'm about to

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Speaker 1: go get a double. You know, I'm getting double. I'm

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Speaker 1: double burger? Oh my lord, Well, let me let me

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Speaker 1: chime in on that. Right. So you know, everybody's on

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Speaker 1: their journey. And this is the thing. I think people

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Speaker 1: diseases are at epic proportions right now in terms of

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Speaker 1: what can we do about it? Because traditional medicine really

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Speaker 1: has really been about treatment and not prevention, right, And

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Speaker 1: the money is in the treatment, the money is not

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Speaker 1: in the cure. But we know when you change what

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Speaker 1: because you let your body do the work it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to do. But so what we say to people is,

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody is on a journey and what we

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Speaker 1: know about food that actually is your medicine. You want

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Speaker 1: to use foods that are non hybrid, foods, that are

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Speaker 1: not synthetic, foods that are all natural, they're non gmo, right,

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Speaker 1: plant based foods. Those foods actually help your body do

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Speaker 1: the reverse work. This help help kiss your body into

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Speaker 1: It's not all good. Okay, slow down, Yeah, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: But I'm going to give you a bigger picture because

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Speaker 1: it's a good first step to eating that. You know,

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Speaker 1: all of this, somebody I could eat ox tails every day.

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Speaker 1: I got engaged at a Tony Rowan rib plate. That

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Speaker 1: was my life, you understand I'm saying so for me,

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Speaker 1: I needed that I when I finally realized that my

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Speaker 1: health was on the line and what power was in

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Speaker 1: my hand to change it? Rashan, when I realized, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, the food is not entertainment. The food is

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Speaker 1: my medicine. Okay. When I started to understand that, I

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Speaker 1: went hardcore and I read the benefits of it, and

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Speaker 1: so are all of our clients. Okay, but the key

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Speaker 1: thing is understand that people are trying to get their foods,

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Speaker 1: that things like impossible burger and beyond meat. You have

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Speaker 1: to be careful in terms of being long term on them.

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Speaker 1: You may say, you know what, I'm trying to taste

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Speaker 1: this to see can I even can I even try?

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Speaker 1: Can I do yesterday? So I'm trying to diversify. I

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Speaker 1: know what you're saying, Yes, sir, listen. And it's a journey.

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Speaker 1: It's a journey. One of the some of the best

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Speaker 1: best calls I had. I'll have a brother. Oh I

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Speaker 1: did it, Jessee, I did it. You know, I stopped

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Speaker 1: this is it. And it's the first step for you

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Speaker 1: even thinking differently. You know, then you you you put

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Speaker 1: want you to do is to start saying, okay, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute now, really understanding what those labels means. You know,

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Speaker 1: because because it just has the VEGN label doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: it's healthy. Like you know, the that that name you

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Speaker 1: talked about has something called glutamic acid. You know those burgers,

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Speaker 1: and they can they can cause glutamate. They can cause

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Speaker 1: for your body, for somebody who's coming from where you

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Speaker 1: Tasha Evans and I love to eat a great restaurant

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Speaker 1: this was Sean mcgonne. I'm empowering your You listen, I

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Speaker 1: who to talk to, who to meet, and what's the

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, get into conversation, something happens.

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Speaker 1: They forget right down what is important to you. Because

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Speaker 1: what's important to you will have value for you as

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Speaker 1: long as you can find it. If you can't find

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Speaker 1: what is valuable to you, they will not have any

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Speaker 1: value to your success. Now money and education. Education and money.

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Speaker 1: People tell you that if you get a college degree,

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Speaker 1: it would lead to a better life, But what they

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Speaker 1: don't talk about is the money involved in that process.

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Speaker 1: So many levels, my next guest has helped hundreds of

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Speaker 1: thousands of students make smart decisions with their money, relationships,

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Speaker 1: and education. He's a national bestselling author and travels the

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Speaker 1: country as a Ramsey personality spreading his encouraging message to

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Speaker 1: have teens and young adults start their lives off right.

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Speaker 1: His latest book Depth, Debt Free Degree Not just this month.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations. Anthony O'Neill man. Good morning,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me on, sir, appreciate the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Where are we calling you? Where are you calling in

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Speaker 1: from my friend man? Right now? I'm gonna book to her, So,

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Speaker 1: I mean Los Angeles, California today and tomorrow. Then we

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Speaker 1: fly out to Denver, Colorado, then from there to Houston.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just out here traveling the world trying to

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Speaker 1: spread this message and help a lot of parents and

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Speaker 1: young people as much as the pots we can. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know we were I just left Houston, Houston. This

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Speaker 1: is my well. I was born and raised at a

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Speaker 1: home in Houston, so I know that's a great, great

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Speaker 1: place to eat. I'll be in Los Angeles on Friday,

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Speaker 1: so we're kind of like missing ourselves. I would not

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Speaker 1: be in Denver. Denver, Colorado. It's Colorado, my favorite state.

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Speaker 1: I love the weather, they I love the views in Colorado.

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Speaker 1: So you're going a lot of places that I enjoy,

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Speaker 1: which means that you change. I'm looking forward to Denver

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Speaker 1: to see the people, but not for the weather. It's

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Speaker 1: snowing in Code I black brother. I don't know whether

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Speaker 1: I black brother do, but I love that code. I

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Speaker 1: used to photo the if you dress like me, Mr O'Neill,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't going to Denver because brother, I got some clothes.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about you in this book, man. I read

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Speaker 1: it and I enjoyed it, and uh. I had a

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Speaker 1: twenty two year old daughter who's in college. She's a junior.

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Speaker 1: I brag about it because she's a National Honest Society student.

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Speaker 1: But of course she has her dad, and her dad

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Speaker 1: is paying for her education, so she's not hitting in

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Speaker 1: these moments where you have to concern yourself about debt free. Now,

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Speaker 1: dad went to college and I had some grants that

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Speaker 1: allowed me to go through college and then I work

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Speaker 1: part time at night, so I left college debt free.

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Speaker 1: I had no issues about credit card problems and things

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Speaker 1: like that. So I clearly understand there is an issue.

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Speaker 1: Their companies on TV right now to tell you if

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Speaker 1: you give it, we can we can get you out

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Speaker 1: of college debt. There people to the politicians trying to

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Speaker 1: create formats where you can walk away from the debt.

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Speaker 1: So this book and this conversation you're having is a

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Speaker 1: national epidemic. I'm gonna use the word epidemic that people

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Speaker 1: are trying to figure out how they can fix it.

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Speaker 1: What is your book telling us what to do? Talking

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Speaker 1: about that? Well, my book is really much pretty much

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Speaker 1: the step by step process to how we can get

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Speaker 1: our young people into college and through college debt free.

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Speaker 1: We got one point six trillion dollars and student loan debt.

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Speaker 1: They average graduate with about thirty five thousand dollars and

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Speaker 1: student loan debt. But then the fifth of our students

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Speaker 1: will graduate with a hundred thousand allars or more. You know,

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Speaker 1: so many people relying on the government for the student

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Speaker 1: loan forgiveness program and all this other type of stuff,

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Speaker 1: but here's my thing, and we need to start taking

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Speaker 1: ownership for ourselves. And I graduated UM High School thirty

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Speaker 1: five thousand. I wasn't dead homes before the night before

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Speaker 1: I was nineteen years old and took out ten thousand

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Speaker 1: all student loans, and nobody really explained to me what

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Speaker 1: exactly will these loans do for my future? And so

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Speaker 1: just after doing a bunch of research and just really

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Speaker 1: diving in with my team and I'm you know, we

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Speaker 1: literally came up with the process of saying, here, here's

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Speaker 1: a step by step process on how you can get

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Speaker 1: your child into college and through college debt free. This

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Speaker 1: is not just an encouragement book. This is from seventh

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Speaker 1: grade through twelfth grade. If you follow this plan, your

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Speaker 1: child will go to school debt free. Right now. The

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Speaker 1: interesting thing before we started off, all right, it was

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Speaker 1: uthing what what is they gonna asker this coomercial because

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Speaker 1: they caret popping up? What is a Dave Ramsey personality

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Speaker 1: because it's mentioned as part of your credits. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, So Dave Rany, the financial group, mentor

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Speaker 1: of Minds and UH and and the pretty much the

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Speaker 1: leader of my current career. UM You know, everyone knows

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Speaker 1: Dave Ramsey for the number two, number three talk radio

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Speaker 1: show in the world, and so he's bringing in personalities

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Speaker 1: who will help spread his message in our own messages.

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Speaker 1: You know, Dave is preparing to for successions. Whenever he

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Speaker 1: plans to retire or whenever God transitions him. He wants

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Speaker 1: to make sure that his company, um and his message

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Speaker 1: can still reach the world. So there's five of us.

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Speaker 1: You have his daughter, that you have Chris Hogan, Ken Coleman,

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Speaker 1: Chrissie right, then you have myself and then we're all

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Speaker 1: in different different spokes. I would say I'm in the

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Speaker 1: team Millennial and African American space is really helping young

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Speaker 1: people avoid debt, get out of debt, and build wealth.

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Speaker 1: Then you have Chris Hogan's who's focused on helping people

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Speaker 1: retire millionaires and in the NAT Spoken and Kim Coleman

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Speaker 1: helping young people get into their dream jobs and careers.

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Speaker 1: So we're all in our different spaces. Uh. Dave Ramsey

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Speaker 1: is the head of personality. You know, we have nearly

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Speaker 1: a thousand team members there in Nashville, Tennessee, and we're

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Speaker 1: just here to help people be good stewards of their money,

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Speaker 1: become debt free, can just build wealth and leave a

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Speaker 1: legacy rather than dying with debt and just living paycheck

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Speaker 1: to paycheck, Which is great because I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: that explained because a lot of people try. He's a mentor,

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Speaker 1: but now he's a business relationship as well, which is

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Speaker 1: really good. Now, how did you come across creating this

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Speaker 1: relationship with someone like a Dave Ramsey? You know? For me,

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Speaker 1: I was pastoring in Jacksonville, Florida, had the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: serve up beneath the Great Bishop Rudolph mckessick Jr. In Jacksonville, Florida,

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Speaker 1: about nearly thirty thousand members, and they're what I was

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Speaker 1: doing was taking my message into high schools and two

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Speaker 1: colleges and traveling around the world speaking for people like

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Speaker 1: Bishop titt Jake's, Bishop Eddie Loan before he passed out

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00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: the cryftlo dollars, some big names UM, and just really

853
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: spreading the message of life skills to young people from

854
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: a spiritual perspective and grew one of the largest youth

855
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: ministries UM urban youth ministries in the world. And so

856
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: with building something and such as that and traveling as

857
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: much as I was traveling, I was getting different opportunities

858
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: from different people, UM, and Dave Ramsey was one of them.

859
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: Him and his team was looking for a good millennial

860
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: guy to somebody spread the message. UM. And then they've

861
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: seen this young, sharp African American man who made some mistakes,

862
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: who's a flawed brother, but he still has a passion

863
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: to help people, but the godfearing message. And they asked

864
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: me to come in and I joined the team five

865
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: years ago. Actually. Okay, Now, early on in your book,

866
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: when you talk about your father and you talk about

867
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: how you will have benefited you to go to school,

868
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: the g I playing on the y. So my father

869
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: served thirty five years in the army, and so I

870
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: had my father's g I bill. We didn't know anything

871
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: about college, we didn't know anything about scholarships, but I

872
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: have my father's g I bill that I also had

873
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: a partners scholarship from the NFL, the National Forensics League.

874
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: So when I went up to college, I honestly didn't

875
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 1: need a dime for school, but I took out ten

876
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: thousand dollars just to fund my lifestyle. I know, and

877
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's it's crazy, you know, Like

878
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: I said, I saw my friends the card and the clothes,

879
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: the food, you know, the apartment and not realizing that,

880
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: guess what, somebody's gonna ask for this and you may

881
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: not have that, you may not have the full time

882
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: job to be able to pay it back. But god,

883
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: you're living great. Let's go. Oh man, I had a blast.

884
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: You know. I was treating all the young ladies out

885
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: to eat. I was putting rims on the car. You

886
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: know I had it. But you know you're right. You

887
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: know I'm looking at you on the cover. Here got

888
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: your Shanola, watch you on and everything. I'm looking at you, brother,

889
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, because I gotta know list so I know

890
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: you got. I know you got styled. I know I

891
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: know you understand that swag conversations and let me ask

892
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: you this, like, you know, I just finished a big

893
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: contract with National Guard and and one of the things

894
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: was about you know, they'll pay for the college education

895
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: and served close to home weekend warrior. I didn't see

896
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: anything like that. It's part of your book or any

897
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 1: of the reserves or any of the all National Guardians

898
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 1: as an option to be able to go to them,

899
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: to be able to enlist and be allowed them to

900
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: pay for the education. Any reason why you didn't choose

901
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: to put any of them into your book, Well, no,

902
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: they're they're briefly in the book. I didn't do a

903
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: full chapter on the Army reserve or about the military.

904
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: I get sell different options and different opportunities to do it. Um.

905
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: A lot of people are aware of what the army

906
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: and the military brings to the table um clearly in

907
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: the book. What I really wanted to do was just

908
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: give everyone a clear route option um and all of

909
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: the options. So I couldn't afford to go through every

910
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: single thing, but we do mention and we do have

911
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: a quick page or two in the book about what

912
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: will the army in the military provide um for that

913
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: as well. Let's start mis huge component of it though,

914
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, Let's let's talk about the book and who

915
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: you're reaching and things like that. Start from the beginning. Okay,

916
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: we talked about your story and an eighteen homeless You know,

917
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: you you built a huge ministry, you're reaching millennials, and

918
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: what is the number one mistake that a person in

919
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: college about to go to college, graduate from college is

920
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: doing with their finances. Well, there's two things I would say.

921
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: The top two things, the top two mistakes that I'm

922
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: seeing with young people today and even parents is that

923
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: they're taking out student loans. They do not have a

924
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: vision and a plan for their life. So I always

925
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: tell people up front, if you really want to go

926
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: to college, let's go to college. And if you want

927
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: to go to college debt free, we gotta take debt

928
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: off of the table, and we gotta have a vision.

929
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: We gotta have a plan for what we're going to do.

930
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: And so, really, if this book is important to me

931
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: to promote for you, because if you don't start telling

932
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: people the responsibility of finances at the early age, they

933
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: become horrible adults. Yeah, they really do. And that's something

934
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: that you know, set Ramsey Solutions and myself and my

935
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: team are really just passionate about doing because I didn't

936
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: have the education. I was just told go to schollege,

937
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: get get a seven hundred credit score, um, and you'll

938
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: be successful and get a good job. When all of

939
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: my mentors from Dave Ramsey, Mark Cuban, it's like, man,

940
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: forgetting credit score, Let's get get money in your bank account.

941
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: You know, let's be just be debt free. Let's just

942
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: go after our dreams has build wealth, and we're on

943
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: a mission not just with this book, just even with

944
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 1: you know, we have one out of three our high

945
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: schools have our high school curriculums where we're trying to

946
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: bring this information down to the middle schools and high

947
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: schoolers while they're in school, so that way when they graduate,

948
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: they know how to budget, they know the difference between

949
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: a credit card and debit card. They can start purchasing

950
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: homes at an early age. They can start investing at

951
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: age eighteen nineteen and building up the row four one

952
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: K the roth Ira. So what you're saying, you and

953
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: I are on the same page that we have to

954
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: make sure that we don't owe anybody, and we gotta

955
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: make sure where he's getting this information out to our

956
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: young people earlier on. But it also starts by getting

957
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: this information to their parents, which is why I wrote

958
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: this book, because they are the number one influences in

959
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: their lives. Absolutely, Anthony states, that's Anthony who's speaking on

960
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: the phone stage. There are three main ways to pay

961
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: cash for college, saving money, finding money, and work, And

962
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: that's what this book amounts to and also putting forth

963
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 1: effort and realizing that look at look at your future,

964
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: post graduate, look at your future, not at the moment,

965
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: but down the line. And I think that was a

966
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: natural thing for me that I picked up along the way.

967
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: And so if I can figure out a way to

968
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: not spend money on the bigger picture, spend money on

969
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: the smaller picture, which will get me to the bigger picture.

970
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: I understood that with victory at hand. And now I'm not.

971
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: I grew up in the era where I wasn't not

972
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: driven by social media. I was not driven you. No, hey,

973
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: I was when I was born in rotor Ridale telephones. Okay,

974
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: so that's when. That's the era that I've lived through.

975
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 1: And I've been fortunate to live through all these different

976
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: breaks of technology to know that the system that I

977
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: lived under works today. And that's what you have in

978
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 1: this book, Anthony, I really really, this is a book.

979
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: I'm recommending um. And if you come through Atlanta Police,

980
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: let me know in your book to it so I

981
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: can come by and see you, and uh tell my

982
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: followers to come by and buy your book or buy

983
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: it online. But you are you got something, my friend,

984
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: and you keep winning me. I appreciate you, man, I

985
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: really appreciate the opportunity to share this message and I

986
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: love what you're doing too. Man. Thanks for all what

987
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: you're doing for our people, in our culture and this

988
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: entire world. Well, Money Making Conversations about you. You know,

989
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: if I don't have wanna tell people saying make America

990
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: great again, it starts with individuals like you, and it

991
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: starts with shaying that individuals like us people will color

992
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: have value. And if you don't promote the value of

993
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: a process, then guess what you're then you'll be. A

994
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: different picture will be painted about you and uh as

995
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: you toured this country as I've toured it many many years,

996
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: and I will continue tour in the future. Different shades

997
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: will allow people to think of you differently. Mr O'Neil,

998
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on my show. I will promote

999
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: this book. Tell your crew to send me some banners

1000
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: so I can put on all my social media and

1001
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: we'll keep winning. Thank you, Mr Neil. Money Making Conversations

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1003
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