1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Day number two officially kicking off here at the NFL Combine. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: We're back on radio row inside the Indiana Convention Center 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: with Casey Valley along. I'm Matt Taylor. We're taking another 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: tour stop around the AFC South, this time down south 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: to Nashville, Tennessee, the home of the Tennessee Titans and 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: the voice, the longtime voice of Tennessee, Mike Keith is 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: with us. My good friend. How are you, Matt and Casey? 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: It is good to see you. It's good to be 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: back in Indiana, my wife's home state. Yeah, and to 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: be here at the Combined it best of all to 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: be out of the office. That's that is true. I 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: mean it's beautiful today. It's like seventy here in central Indiana. 13 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: This was fantastic. It's like Nashville. When I got up 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: this morning and went to walk to get my coffee, 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: I thought, oh gosh, it's okay. I can do this day. 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: I think my Friday, it's supposed to be forty. Yeah. Yeah, 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: that's what happens, that bectuation. But at least it's not 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: like eighteen like it was a couple of years, three 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: or four years ago. It's like eighteen and we we 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: literally tried anything we could to not go out. Right now, 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: are you are you glad the Combine stays here or 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: are you sick of this place? We are? I mean 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: for us, it's fantastic. And I understand, you know, the 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: I understand the ramifications of all of it. The NFL 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: wants to move it around. I get it, because that's 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: working with other things that they're doing. I get it. 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: But I also get the standpoint that this place is 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: so good for the teams to be able to have 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: the hotels where they are. I mean, Indianapolis is a 30 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: great downtown. I tell people all the time. I said, hey, 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: if you're looking for like a weekend getaway you and 32 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: your wife, I said, Indianapolis is a fabulous place to 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: go because you can get everywhere you park the car 34 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: one time. Yeah, you can go out to a great restaurant. 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: You can have an adult beverage and walk back to 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: your place not have to worry about you know, uber 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: or left or getting in the car. And so from 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: that standpoint, it's really great. The medical part of it 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: being close by is a big deal. I will tell 40 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: you when we build our new stadium, watch out for Nashville. Listen, 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's it's not just this stuff. It's 42 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: Final four, right, yeah, I mean we told I mean, 43 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: we were talking to the office. We saw the renderings 44 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: in the projected pictures of the new Dome Stadium, and 45 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna that's gonna affect college championship games both basketball football. Uh, 46 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: it's it's a ton of conventions that come to Indianapolis. 47 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: Now Nashville a little bit warmer, lots to do obviously 48 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: with the music scene. It's a very attractive place to be. 49 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: Well it is. And when what they're building, I mean, 50 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: essentially they're building Allegiant Stadium, that's the plan. Okay, So 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: they're building the Las Vegas Stadium in Nashville, and the 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: idea it's gonna be in the parking lots closest to 53 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: the interstate. If you think about being in Nissan Stadium 54 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: to the south end, is that what that is? It's 55 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: actually to the north, so it would be to the 56 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: where's east, Where's theoretically where's the river? The river and 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: can junction with Nissan River is on the north west, Okay. 58 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: The end zones are north and south Okay, and so 59 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: the end zone where Kevin Dyson ran on The Music 60 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: City Miracle just to give you some some context. As 61 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: a bills person walks was Bawn touchdown. Um, sorry about that, 62 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: but that was the north end zone. Okay, So the 63 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: parking lots to the east, closest to the interstate is 64 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: where they're going to drop that stadium yet. Yeah, and 65 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: it's really being built. And what everybody understands is what 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: Nissan Stadium did for our community twenty five years ago. 67 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: They think this stadium will take it to a totally 68 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: different level. It's not retractable roof because the feeling is, 69 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, with the technology with the roofs as they are, 70 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: like the one in Los Angeles, the one in Minneapolis 71 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: with that to ethel, I don't know anything about it. 72 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: You know, that translucent feel. It's it's gonna be outside. 73 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna feel like you're outside. And they're gonna do 74 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: some things with the windows on the end and the 75 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: doors and all of that. And they think it's going 76 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: to be a really nice thing. Talking about being ready 77 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six if people listen to us talk 78 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: about it. However, we're saying keep twenty twenty seven in 79 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: the back of your mind, because they're gonna be very 80 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: cognizant of keeping the cost where it is projected to be. 81 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: And so in order to do that, they're saying, hey, 82 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: it may take us three extra months to get what 83 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: we need to build it. So we're we're gonna think 84 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: about cost rather than being on a deadline. Yeah, we're 85 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: gonna just do it right, do it right, you know 86 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's and that's the whole thing. 87 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: So you're reading twenty twenty six everywhere. The media has 88 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: not completely picked up on the Titans big hint, which 89 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: is think twenty slow your roll and yeah, so I 90 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: think you know Nashville for the SEC championship game, for 91 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: the National Championship games. WrestleMania has already said, if Nashville 92 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: builds it, we will come in twenty twenty seven. Then 93 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, the super Bowls are options. Well, when 94 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: Nashville put on the Draft in twenty nineteen, the way 95 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: they did what changed everything and what they realized about 96 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: Nashville is because we're an event community with the music business, 97 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: The city and county work together no matter who the 98 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: political leaders are the city and we have metro government, 99 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: so there aren't two local governments to deal with. We 100 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: just have one local government. The state works well with 101 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Metro and they put this thing on and it was flawless. 102 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: The you know, not only from just the execution but police. 103 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: You know, people felt safe and truthfully that the job 104 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: Indianapolis did with the Super Bowl, that was something that 105 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: has been sighted. You know, that's they're saying, Hey, Indianapolis 106 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: did such a great job. Nashville potentially has that same ability. So, yeah, 107 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: Nashville will be in the mix. I mean, we're not 108 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: going to be New Orleans and get a Super Bowl 109 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: every four years or something. But why why couldn't you though, 110 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: if you're in science, if it's a dome stadium, it's 111 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: a state of the art, and if you do it right, 112 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: you've got the perfect destination city plus the amenities to 113 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: match it. Well, it's it's in a I mean the 114 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: location is so good, which is like Indianapolis is such 115 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: a good location for the combine. It's an easy place 116 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: to get to, right, Nashville is also an easy place 117 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: to get to. Yeah, it's not an easy place to 118 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: get around sometimes when you're in it. No, right, I'll 119 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: just leave it at that. No, you have to know 120 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 1: the secrets. Yeah, that you have to understand the understand 121 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: and you have to be willing to walk, which is 122 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: the real secret of all. If you're willing to walk 123 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: a little bit. That downtown is easy to traverse. So 124 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: many people, though, get there and want to take their 125 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: car everywhere and try to park. Not a good play. Yeah, Hey, 126 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: I want to doule back to something you said. This 127 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: is off the wall. But how many times a year 128 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: do you hear your call of the Music City Miracle 129 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: um nineteen ninety nine? Correct, Yeah, twenty two, twenty three 130 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: years um, because it happened in January of two thousand. Yeah, 131 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: ten times. Now, how many times do I hear people reference? 132 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: Do you still remember doing it? I mean, that's one 133 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: of them. Never remember doing it? Really, I didn't remember 134 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: doing it thirty minutes after it happened. That's what's so bizarre, man, 135 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: is I didn't I didn't know what I said. Yeah, 136 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm getting a coke. I've had I've had moments. Oh 137 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: I know, I'm getting scary. I'm getting a coke and 138 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, oh Lord, what did I say? How did 139 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: I handle this right? And it turn out okay? And 140 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: then I hope, and then I went back and I 141 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: heard it. It's like, Okay, I mean, that's not bad. 142 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: The screaming part at the end is not my favorite, 143 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: but it was. It was pretty accurate. So you're like, 144 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: it was a moment, that's for sure. It was a moment. 145 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: And what was so wild about that is, Casey, we 146 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: were in our first year in that stadium as the Titans, 147 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: and we had had a tough move, Yeah, because the 148 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: team knew that they were in negotiations to move in 149 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: August ninety five, So they played the ninety five season 150 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: in Houston with that hanging over their heads, and then 151 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: they played the ninety six season in Houston knowing the 152 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: team was definitely moving. Yeah, And so to say people 153 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: were unenthusiastic about the team would have been the understatement. 154 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: You know, everybody talks here about the Mayflower thing, the 155 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: Mayflower moving vans. You would much rather have that than 156 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: what our organization went through. In ninety seven, we played 157 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: in Memphis. Memphis had been shunned by the NFL. They 158 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: thought they were getting either the Jacksonville or the Carolina franchise. 159 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: Everybody did you know, because they had been bidding for years. 160 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: They had had a World Football League team, they had 161 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: had a USFL team. We're getting a team. Then they 162 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: don't get it, and our organization says, hey, you're not 163 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: getting this team, but we're gonna come play there for 164 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: two Yeah. Well so that didn't work, and they and 165 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: they took that last year that they were supposed to 166 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: play there and played at Vanderbilt, who was really not 167 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: interested in HOSTINGUSH And it's a thirty eight thousand seat 168 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: stadium and they really did not want us. The mayor 169 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: at the time more or less guilted them into taking 170 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: us on, saying, well, they're not part of the community. 171 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: They don't know. I mean, he came out in the 172 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: paper and next thing you knew, we were getting to 173 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: play at Vanderbilt instead of Memphis. But that didn't go well, 174 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: so he got four years. It's college football stay, yeah, yeah, 175 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: it always back then. Oh well, I mean, Tennessee's as 176 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: hot as it has ever been in the history of 177 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: the program. Peyton Manning had just finished win the national 178 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: championship in ninety eight. They're they're forty five and five, 179 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: which is the four year stretch. That's just it's crazy town. 180 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: And uh, I leave to the Sea. Four months before 181 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: they go play the National Championship game and their longtime 182 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: announcer announces he's retiring. Boy, so I'm looking good. Yeah, 183 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: I tell you you talk about well, yeah, you should 184 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: have lived at home with a woman who was really 185 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: happy about it too. People are saying, I bet people 186 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: were calling you stupid for making that move. I said, 187 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: oh no, not pete family member. My grandfather played for 188 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: General Neil and at Tennessee. My family's all from Knoxville. 189 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: I was born in Knoxville. I was with John Mooreden 190 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: there for eleven years. I mean, I'm part of that 191 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: whole thing. And eight days after I leave, he announces 192 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: he's this is his last year. And then they win 193 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: the National Championship. I'm sitting there on my gut punch. 194 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: Oh dude, I'm sitting there on my couch watching them 195 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: play the National Championship game. And for thirteen days before that, 196 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: all my buddies, yeah, who are just total. I don't 197 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: know the nice way to say it. They give me 198 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: the business. Let's put it down. Yeah, there's another way 199 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: to say it. I'm not but so they're calling me 200 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: from Arizona and it's eighty degrees and they're playing all 201 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: the best golfers. We're going to TPC today and they're 202 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: eating it. All these fantastic lines Hermosa and all these 203 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: great restaurants we had in Mexico. They're taking pictures. They go, 204 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: we'll send you the pictures. Of course you couldn't do 205 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: it on a fune then, but they're like, oh, we 206 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: got a whole roll of pictures. We're got to drop 207 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: in the mail team. Okay, I'll see him in two weeks. Casey. 208 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: Three hundred and sixty eight days after that, the Music 209 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: City Miracle happened. Wow. Yeah, so it vindicated. Yeah, there's 210 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: some my family members still don't think so, but um, yeah, 211 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah. I mean it was that's right. 212 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: It's a national football League. And when I told people 213 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: that at the time, people in Tennessee didn't realize that. Yeah, 214 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: they didn't understand. They're like, well people, So I do 215 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: an appearance with Jeff Fisher and in two thousand and 216 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: somebody says, hey, if the Valls played the Titans, who 217 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: would win? And I'm like, are you serious? And this 218 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: guy honestly thought he'd have to think about it. He 219 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: said the Titans would win. Forty two to nothing. They 220 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: would be a running clock in the second half, right, 221 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's a different thing. They get it now. Yeah, 222 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, they understand the difference now. And what I 223 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: hoped would happen in my hometown, in my home state 224 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: is that Friday nights would be a big deal, Saturdays 225 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: would be a big deal, and Sundays would be a 226 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: big the biggest deal. Right. Yeah. Well, but but the 227 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: whole thing, I mean, football is what we do. Yeah, 228 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's our thing in Tennessee. You do basketball too, Yeah, 229 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: we have other sports. We have some good basketball, really 230 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: good baseball state, I mean a lot of good things 231 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: like that. But football is really what we do and 232 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: it's what people build their lives around. Because you know, 233 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: if you if you had no pro sports back in 234 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: the days where it was just radio or during the depression, 235 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: you you rallied around the things that you had. I mean, 236 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: you might listen to the Yankees on the radio, but 237 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: the things that you had it was football. And so 238 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: in general, Neilan was at Tennessee and just Neely was 239 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: at Vanderbilt, and I mean there are a lot of 240 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: things that went on and it extends to high school. 241 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we're not Texas. We don't have forty thousand 242 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: at a high school game. But I mean, people plan, 243 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna do the tailgate, We're gonna do all of 244 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: these sorts of things. And so it's not just the men. 245 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: It's not just the men folk watching the football. It's 246 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: it's all. It's the moms, the sister, it's the kids. Um. 247 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: Churches now planned to get out at eleven fifty five. Um, 248 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: we see that was a friend day. Go turn on 249 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: Mike Keith on the radio. Well on their way home. 250 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: Then they turned the TV. Yeah, um, but I'll take 251 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: him for that twenty minute, right, But but the whole 252 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: thing was, Um, I mean, the minister takes off his watch, 253 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: lays it down, and he knows he's gonna be He's 254 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: gonna be off at eleven fifty four because he wants 255 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: to go see the game. And people at the church 256 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,239 Speaker 1: will turn on the game and have a meal afterwards 257 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: and watch the game. I mean, it's a it's a 258 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: it's more than a sport to us. It's part of 259 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: our lives. Yeah, And that's why having the opportunity I 260 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: had at Tennessee and having this opportunity is so wonderful 261 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: because you know, what we do is part of people's 262 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: routines and bringing people together. It's really an awesome thing. Yeah, 263 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: all right, Well with that said, yeah, with me telling 264 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: you all about the history, because I could sit there 265 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: and talk about that Davy Crockett, how about Johnny applese 266 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: Johnny apple See how much? What are his ties to Nashville? No, see, 267 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: I could talk about that stuff all day. But with 268 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: the importance that you just talked about that, the Titans 269 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: now have the stranglehold they have in Nashville within that 270 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: sports scene. We suffered through it in Indianapolis last year. 271 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: How tough was that seven game slide to end the season? Mike? 272 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: What happened? Brutal? Yeah, we lost to Cincinnati Thanksgiving weekend 273 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: in a game we could have won, led for the 274 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: majority of the game, they scored in the fourth quarter, 275 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: beat his twenty to sixteen, and we walked out of 276 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: that stadium very fearful, very fearful that it could go 277 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: the wrong way. Um because we were so fragile. M 278 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: Tannehill's hurt. Um. The offensive lines have been a mess 279 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: all year. We never once had our five guys together 280 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: in the secondary. That we're supposed to be the five guys, 281 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't start a game seven team games. 282 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: The five guys who the first week of camp were 283 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: projected to be the starters did not start one game together. 284 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: We've used one hundred and seventy seven players the last 285 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: two Yeah. In the in the twenty twenty one season, 286 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: the injuries were numerous, but it was like, Okay, this 287 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: guy's out, but you still have this guy, this guy 288 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: and this guy. Well, this time around, it was losing 289 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: entire groups and we thought it could go wrong in 290 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: a hurry. It went Wronger, I don't know if that's 291 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: worth I think it's more wrong. Yeah, Um, it went 292 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: more wrong than we ever could have anticipated. And it 293 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: was tough. You know, it was really really tough, and 294 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: there were a lot of changes that we felt like 295 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: we're coming. We were in a position, you know, fired 296 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: the general manager in early December, and he was he 297 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: was let go largely because we new. I can't speak 298 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: for the owner, but I think the timing of it 299 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: had to do with the fact that we have so 300 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: many big offseason things we're having to deal with. The 301 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: cuts that we made last week are just the first 302 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: part of what we're having to deal with. So it's 303 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: a time of change, chaking up offensive staff. Really an 304 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: interesting time when you talk about the injuries. That's I mean, 305 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: injuries hit every team and sometimes as you see with 306 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: the Titans, it's been a couple of years like that. 307 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: Is it one of those things where you're just waiting 308 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: for your turn where you can finally say, is there 309 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: something that you see as an overwhelming reason that the 310 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: injuries are happening? Or is it just bad luck? Bad luck? Yeah? 311 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: And the turf, right, they change the turf. So right, 312 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: So here's the deal. I don't know how much you 313 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: believe into that, but I believe. I believe there's something 314 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: to it, right enough that I'm supportive of artificial surface 315 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: at Nissan Stadium. And I'm a guy grass grass, grass, 316 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: give me grass. I believe every sport was meant to 317 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: be played on grass. I get it, that's in my heart. 318 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: But Nissan Stadium has such a problem with the grass. 319 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: After we get out of warm weather, I mean, it discintegrates. 320 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: We've tried everything we've brought in. I mean, we have 321 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: some beautiful golf courses in Middle Tennessee all over the state. 322 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: Some of the best really that you'll find in the South. 323 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: And we brought in their turf people and we've tried everything, 324 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: and if you play us in August, September, October, pretty 325 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: good surface. Once you get to November, weren't Once that 326 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: first freeze hits, we can't grow grass. And once the 327 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: days get shorter, when the time changes, the stadium with 328 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: how it's set, just does not get much sunlight on 329 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: the field. And so our surface was horrible. It was 330 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: so inconsistent. You'd have these ruts. I mean a lot 331 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: of times they just had to paint it green, but 332 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: you would it was not a consistent play surface. I 333 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: say to those who opposed turf, okay, fine, I will 334 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: say the turf is better than when I started covering 335 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: the business and they were playing on tartan turf, which 336 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: was essentially concrete. But would you rather have a consistent 337 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: playing surface or would you rather play on grass that 338 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: has divots, holes, you slip all of these sorts of things. 339 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: I think that's the rational. Back to the question about injuries, 340 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: thought of the injuries have been in some sort of 341 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: game action, whether it be in practice or in the games. 342 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: So if a guy twists an ankle, you know, if 343 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: if a guy like Ryan Tannehill has an ankle injury 344 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: where somebody wraps him up in a weird way, that 345 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do right with the surface or whatever. 346 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: So only ten percent of the injuries were really kind 347 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: of soft tissue things like that. Now they're examining everything 348 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: thing they can do there. The turf is meant for 349 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: that with the idea that hey, guys, we're gonna give 350 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 1: you a more consistent playing surface, but most of it 351 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: has just been inexplicable. If you've if you see the numbers, 352 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: you say, somebody's got to get fired, and you're like, now, 353 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: if you take them for what they are and understand 354 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: the situation instead, what you say is, wow, this team 355 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: has had some awful luck. I mean just awful, and 356 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: maybe that turns in It's funny about the Titans. It's 357 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: probably gonna turn in a way that it's going to 358 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: help them so much in a season where maybe they're 359 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: not supposed to be there. You know, maybe in what's 360 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: considered rebuilding or looking at it a different way, they're 361 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna be the healthiest team going down the stretch, 362 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: and maybe it will give them a chance speaking Jacksonville 363 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: was like, right, yeah, a great point. Speaking of bad luck. 364 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: Part of that injury puzzle last year it was Ryan 365 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: Tannehill at the ankle. I'm sure that factored into the 366 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: seven game slide, no doubt about that. Is he back 367 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: next year? Is he up for a contract restructure? What 368 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: are your expectations at quarterback? I think he's a quarterback. Okay, 369 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: Now what the contract? What goes on with the contract? 370 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, because I I can't know 371 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: what the new GM Ran Carthon thinks. I can't know 372 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: what Mike Vrabel thinks in a personnel way, and he 373 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: clearly has a bigger personnel role than he did when 374 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: John Robinson was a general manager, and he's got more 375 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: of a voice, no doubt. So what does that mean contractually? 376 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. He's in the last year of a contract. 377 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: What does he want? You know? What does he come 378 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: to them and say, I'm not gonna show up on 379 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: April seventeenth? If yeah, I don't know, Yeah, I mean 380 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: that's a that's a fair question. But do I think, 381 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: as we talk in early March, that he is the 382 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: Titans quarterback in twenty twenty three? Yes, they do, and 383 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: I think it's the right thing. He's played really well 384 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: overall for the Titans. He especially played well when he 385 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: had a good offensive line and when he had more 386 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: weapons to catch the football. Now, with that being said, 387 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: is that at all to do with what you saw 388 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: out of Malik Willis? I know he was very raw 389 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: thrown into a tough situation. But when you look at 390 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: what happened, I mean at the end of the I 391 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: mean Josh Dobbs was starting and it was a guy 392 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: that they had just picked up. So when you look 393 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: at it that way, is that at all in play 394 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: when you talk about Tannehill. No, No, I don't think so. 395 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: Malik is a separate issue Malik. When they got Malik 396 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: in the third round, they were really thrilled because they 397 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: had invested a third round pick and somebody they thought 398 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 1: might have a skill set to be their long term answer. 399 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: They knew that Malik needed time. They knew it, and 400 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: from every single aspect, Malik having to play last year 401 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: was unfair to Malik. I mean it just but they 402 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: knew if they cut him and tried to get him 403 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: through to practice squad, they would lose it. So the 404 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: choice was especially with how tight the Titans cap was. 405 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: They couldn't keep three quarterbacks, so they made him the backup. 406 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: And that wasn't really what they I mean, you take 407 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: those chances and you're saying, hey, we can take this chance. 408 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: Ryan tanney Hill never gets hurt. Yeah, but that's not 409 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: a and people are like, boy, that was a bad person. No, 410 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: it's not you. Everybody takes chances. I have to. And 411 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: if they's a salary cap, that's it. And if they 412 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: pay off, you're brill And if they don't, look at 413 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: the Rams, I have a first round pick until twenty 414 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: thirty seven. Yeah, you know. And they want a super Bowl, 415 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: they want the Super guesses. I tell you what if 416 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: you told me I could win the Super Bowl and 417 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: the next year I'd go five and twelve five, Yeah, 418 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: I'll take it. I want I want to want to 419 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: help a party. Yeah, I mean we'll have a parade. 420 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: I can do things to make me forget I've a twelve. 421 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: I'll just go home and put on my championship gear 422 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: and walk around the house watch highlight. This is me. Yeah, 423 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: but you um, you know it's it's it's funny, Malik. 424 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: This is where Malik won people, and I told Rancarth 425 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: on this story, um so Josh. They come to him 426 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: and they say, listen, we're gonna play Josh Dobbs last 427 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: two games. And he says, I understand. And so what 428 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: does he do on the sidelines. He's helping Josh Dobbs. 429 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: What's he doing in practice? He's helping Josh Dobbs. He's saying, 430 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: I get at this moment, this is the best thing 431 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: for me and for the football team. It's not that 432 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to play right, It's that I get it. 433 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: Malik gets it. Malik is the first guy had to 434 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: practice every day. I mean, we've had guys. You've had 435 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: guys anybody in the NFL. You see you see them 436 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 1: and you hear them talk and you're like, boy, you 437 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: don't get this is a job. You don't get it. 438 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: You're coming out there and you're thinking, I was the 439 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: star in high school, I was the star in college 440 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: and I'm still I mean, you see it at various positions, 441 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: but we've had it at quarterback. You've had it at 442 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: quarterback and the guys with a lot of talent and 443 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: then they're worker bees, and Malik Willis is a worker bee. 444 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: And that, to me, gives him a chance. I don't 445 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: know if he's the answer, don't know. I'm not writing 446 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: him off. I'm not making any prediction that it's gonna 447 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: that he's gonna be Johnny Unitis or Steve McNair or whoever. 448 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. All I'm saying is he has 449 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: given himself a chance, and I think the Titans will 450 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: hopefully see a lot of growth in this offseason from me, 451 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: great kid, a fabulous kid, no doubt, no doubt. Final 452 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: one from me, Mike, when it comes to the focal 453 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: point of the offense and really the focal point of 454 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: like the culture within Tennessee, it is We're gonna dominate 455 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: you up front. We're gonna win with play action, We're 456 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: gonna rind you down, We're gonna win the last four 457 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: minutes of the game. Obviously, the epicenter evolved that is 458 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. How much longer can he be that he's 459 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: certainly one of the still one of the best running 460 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: backs in the game, But how much longer can they 461 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: afford to give him twenty to twenty five carries a game, 462 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: given where he's at right now in his career. I 463 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: mean I think you, I think with somebody like him, 464 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he's already made it longer than he should have. 465 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean, let's face him with that workload, right that 466 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: well and you got what you mean? Or yeah, absolutely, 467 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: with DeMarco Murray showing him how you go about this 468 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: at first and then him taking over. I mean he's 469 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: been the guy for five years now. Yeah, and it's remarkable. 470 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's I mean he's twenty nine years old. 471 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: By all rights, this should be over right. At a 472 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: certain point for a running back, it just ends. Yeah, 473 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: it's the stranger. It's like shows over right. It's like 474 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: one day you don't know when it is. One day 475 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: you're on the side of the stadium and doing commercials 476 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: and you're you're an all Pro, and the next day 477 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: and you don't know. So my feeling, Matt is you 478 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: just right, And that's what he wants. He wants the ball. Yeah, 479 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: It's like if he's on the team and you're paying 480 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: him the money, hand him the ball. I mean you don't. 481 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: You don't put Lebron James on the floor to throw 482 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: the ball in bound. And that's not what I'm suggesting. No, No, 483 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: nobody is talking about it, But I'm saying how much long? Right? Right? Yeah? 484 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, But I'm saying, if you're the 485 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: tight for sure and he's on your roster, I think 486 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: you're still building around him at this point. So one 487 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: final for me. You mentioned earlier the cuts that were 488 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: made last night. Definitely a big offseason for the Titans. 489 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you lose Taylor Lawan, Robert Woods, Randy Bullock, 490 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, sounds like there's going to be more 491 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: to come. How important is this off season because we 492 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: talk about the AFC South Jacksonville won last year. They 493 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: look like they're on the come, but teams like the 494 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: Colts and the Texans kind of in that rebuilding, it's 495 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: still definitely up for grabs. So how important is it 496 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: for the Titans to kind of be able to write 497 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: that ship this off season. It's funny because I was 498 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: here last year and I was talking to the Jaguars 499 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I think you guys can 500 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: win eighty nine games this year. And I think that's 501 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: the situation with the Texans and the Colts too. I 502 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: don't think either team is that far away. And I 503 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: think that's the scary thing is that Jacksonville's not going 504 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: away now. They're gonna have some cap things they have 505 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: to deal with in the next couple of years. But 506 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: they're in there. They're starting to be in their window 507 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: that windows open. The window has now opened. Because here's 508 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: the most important thing. They think they're good. The moment 509 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: you start thinking you're good is a huge help because 510 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: it's not an overconfidence thing, it's a belief thing. Yeah, 511 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's key for the Titans because 512 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: as long as Mike Vrabel is, they're they're not doing 513 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: rebuilding right. Vrabel's as good a coach as there is 514 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: in the league. He is really really I've been around 515 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of them, and he is really special. I mean, 516 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: you see it. You talked about all the injuries, so 517 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: the last couple of years crazy and they're in it 518 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: in every game. They're in it in every game. And 519 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: that's him and you know, philosophically, he's just he's got 520 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: the stuff. So what they're in the process of right now, 521 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: Casey's they're trying to retool the four cuts. Last week 522 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: there were no surprises. Lewan's only played twenty one games 523 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: in three years. You can't go into a season counting 524 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: on him because the minute. The thing that killed the 525 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: Titans down the stretch is that by week two Lwan 526 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: and Harold Landry were both out for the season, and 527 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: that was thirty million dollars in capri. So roughly one 528 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: six one seventh of your cap was gone in two guys. 529 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: And you're not having that happen and win something big unfortunately, 530 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: so they'll go get a left tackle answer the kicker. 531 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: Bullock couldn't make anything longer than really forty five yards 532 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: on a consistent basis. The game's different. You've got to 533 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: be able to make fifty five to sixty yard kick. 534 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: You got to do it. It's part of the game now. 535 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: Most important offensive stat now is points per possession. And 536 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: if you can try a three when you would otherwise 537 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: have to pooch punt or go for it on fourth 538 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: and eight, and you can make it right, then suddenly 539 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: you're changing the game. Zach Cunningham didn't play for US. 540 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: He was hurt three different times. He didn't play for US, 541 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: and Robert Woods did a nice job, but he was 542 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: not the answer he was supposed to be. Remember, he 543 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: was traded for to be a j Brown second would 544 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: have looked a lot different in that role instead of 545 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: having to be the one. Robert Wood still a good play, Yeah, 546 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: but he's not that kind of player that he was 547 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: being paid for. So that was that was not a 548 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: surprise one one final final one on promise. I know 549 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm waiting on I understand. Yeah, but it's you look 550 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: at the Colts and how they evaluate their last couple 551 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: of seasons, things swept by Tennessee the last couple of years. 552 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: Why do you think Tennessee has been able to simply 553 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: just play their best, make enough plays, eke out these 554 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: games against the Colts, and do the Titans. You talked 555 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: about Mike Vrabel to the Titans view the Colts as 556 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: their chief rival, maybe they get up more for the Colts. 557 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't. That's not vrabel style. You know. I don't 558 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: think he's gonna do the whole rival thing. He really, 559 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: he's not big on that. I've brought stuff up like 560 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: that to him in the past and I thought he's 561 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: gonna smack me. Yeah, you don't, and you don't want 562 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: that because he's a big man. He's a big man. Um. 563 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean, in some ways you could answer the question 564 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: for me because you swept Us for what nineteen years 565 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: in a row, and it wasn't with Peyton Manning. I mean, 566 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: we never beat in true luck. I just think you 567 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: get in sequences where you you have something that maybe 568 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: the other team doesn't quite have for some reason. I 569 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: don't know what it is, and you're just in a 570 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: position that when you've been winning against them, you feel 571 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: confident going in to the second half of the fourth quarter, right, 572 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: And I think that's where the Titans have been in 573 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: this series. But you know, we had beaten Jacksonville. Jacksonville 574 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: had not swept Us since two thousand and five, so 575 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: they did last year. I mean we had We've had 576 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: some good luck recently, very recently against the Colts. We've 577 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: had a lot of luck against Jacksonville. And that was 578 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: over Yeah, yep, over yep. Uh. Times change, no doubt. 579 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: It's so it's it's not like Alabama Tennessee, where where 580 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: Alabama beat you fifteen straight years. You kick a knuckleball 581 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: forty yard or if you rush the field, yeah, what's 582 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: wrong with it? Yeah? Then ripped the goalposts in the river. Brother, 583 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: you put it, you put it, You put a pin 584 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: on Google map. Let me just let me just let 585 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: me just say something here to people, to your listeners. 586 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: The throwing the goal post in the river, that's tradition. 587 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: People are these people around the cutty like you're stupid. 588 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: People took the goalpost down the river, you know, like 589 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: a book, like they don't know. That's what we have 590 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: a little history. Come on now, we're the tenth winning 591 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: US program in college football. Yes, I'm being I'm being 592 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: some all right, my brother. I appreciate you than hitting 593 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: the reset button with Mike Keith on the Tennessee Titans 594 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: here at the combine, Micha. Always appreciate your time, man, 595 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: best of luck, Love you guys, thanks for having me.