1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fred Show. Hey, Jonah, 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: good morning, welcome to the program. How are you. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. Yeah, how are you? 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm doing all right, but trying to help you out 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: here though it's waiting on the phone. So what's going 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: on with this woman? Page? Like, I need to know 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: how you met, about any dates you've been on, and 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: then where things are now, and then how we can help. 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: Obviously we met on the apps. You know most people, 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 3: I guess meeting that way. But you know, we had 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: a great first date. We went out after talking on 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: the after a little while, went out and and you know, 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 3: we went back to my place and I had an 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: even better time. Let's just put it that way, you know, Okay, 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: you know not you know she's uh, and. 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: Then she just straight ghosted me afterwards. 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: Like and what I don't understand is like, you know, 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: we had a good time, we had a great time. 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: If she was to go back to my place and 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: hook up, you know why the ghosting? 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: You know why she goes to me now I'd like 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: to see her again. 23 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: I would say. Most of the time, I've been doing 24 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: this for a long We've all been doing these calls 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: for a long time, So, I mean I would normally 26 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: say when someone on a first date wants to go 27 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: home with you that that's a good thing. So everything 28 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: was good until that point, I guess. But now you're 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: not able to get a hold of this woman. You've 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: called her, you've texted her, you've tried, and she's not 31 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: responding to you at. 32 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: All, not at all, like straight ghosted, which you know, 33 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 3: it's not like anything bad happened. We had a good time, 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: you know, we had fun. Yeah, nothing weird, nothing, you know. 35 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: It was just I don't know, I don't get it. 36 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: All right. Well, look, Jonah, we'll be the judge of 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: that in just a second. Okay, we're gonna find out 38 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: what's going on. We're gonna call Page, see if we 39 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: can get her on the phone, ask some questions. You'll 40 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: be on the phone at the same time. Hey, Jonah, Yeah, 41 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: all right, let's call it Page. You guys met on 42 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: one of the dating apps. You went on a date. 43 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: You felt like it was a successful date, so much 44 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: so she wound up going back to your place after 45 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: the dinner and the drinks or whatever you guys did. 46 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: But you have not heard from this woman since then, 47 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: and it's bugging you because obviously you liked whatever happened 48 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: and liked her and wanted to see her again, and 49 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: now you can't. You can't find her. 50 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 51 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: Have you guys can help me track her down? 52 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: That'd be great. 53 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna find out right now. Good luck. 54 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: Man. Hello? 55 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: Hi is his page? 56 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 57 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: I hate page. Good morning. My name is Fred. I'm 58 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: calling from the Fred Show, the morning radio show, and 59 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: I have to tell you that we are on the 60 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: radio right now, and I would need your permission to 61 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: continue with the calls and cool if we chat for 62 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: just a second. Uh Okay, I know, I know it's 63 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: kind of strange and I'm sorry to sort of barge 64 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: in on your life like this, but you're welcome to 65 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: hang up at any time. We're calling on behalf of 66 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: a guy who reached out to us for help. His 67 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: name is Jonah. Do you remember going on a day 68 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: with Jonah? Yes? I do, all right. Well, Well, he 69 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: described to us what he thought was a really good date. 70 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: He liked you a lot. He did say that you 71 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: guys wandered back at his place. He didn't get into 72 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: detail about that, but he says he hasn't heard from 73 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: you since then, So what's going on? 74 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: Why? 75 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: Why are you ghosting? Jonah? 76 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 6: It looks like, oh my god, this is so embarrassing. 77 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: Okay, yes we went on a date. 78 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 6: But god, I mean I wouldn't normally kiss and tell 79 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 6: like this is mortifying. But it's kind of like why. 80 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: I guess it's a safe place. This is a safe 81 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: place page and he asked us to do this, so 82 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: you're welcome to say whatever you want. Okay. 83 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 6: So after we hooked up, Jonah was so rude, Like 84 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 6: the second we finished, he was up and collecting my 85 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 6: things so that I could get dressed, and he was like, 86 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 6: what's your address? I'll call you an uber? 87 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: Oh what a was it? Fred? Stop it right now. 88 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm not It takes me a few minutes to get 89 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: everything together. Just come on. So okay, so you guys, 90 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: you hook up, you had a good time. Everything is 91 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: fine up until this moment. And as soon as it's over, 92 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, there's your bra okay, and then you know, 93 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: Sam's on his way in the Honda Civic license plate 94 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: one two three four. He'll be downstairs. Yeah no, he well, 95 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: he went for the Uber Comfort. What a guy? Right, extra, 96 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: So it kind of went like that you're saying. 97 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just like it made it feel so cheap, 98 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 6: like like it was so fast. 99 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 5: It was like a flip switch, you know what I mean, 100 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 5: Like like I got the hint and I laughed, but 101 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 5: it just made me feel. 102 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: Like, well, there's Jonah by the way. 103 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 4: Uh, because because we were getting there. I like my bed. Look, 104 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 4: I like my bed to myself, and I was tired 105 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: and that makes me a. 106 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 5: Tool, no, but like why did you invite me over 107 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 5: if there was like a time limit on the evening? 108 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: Like it was just rude. 109 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 3: Look, we were having a good time. I mean, we 110 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: were vibing. Obviously we connected, you know. I mean you 111 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: know where I was tired. I just wanted to go 112 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: to sleep. I mean, I don't understand. 113 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: There's a difference between who might of talk, but there's 114 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: a difference between like wanting to sleep, you know, or 115 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: having an early morning or whatever. I mean, you gotta 116 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: be you gotta be a little more casual about it. 117 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: Like you can't I mean okay, but I mean you 118 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: can get like something, are you still going and like 119 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, the heart's still pumping and it's like uber 120 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: will be here in two minutes. You got to be 121 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more laid back about it. 122 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: I'm a single guy. I'm used to sleeping by myself. 123 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: I used to have some space, and I. 124 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: Mean, I'll be honest, I was just like I was 125 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: just ready to pass out. Man. 126 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: It was a struggle just to call that uber. 127 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 7: But I think for your uber, okay, you need to 128 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 7: tell you that beforehand, though, Like if you're if you 129 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 7: want someone to come over and you want to do that, 130 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 7: like I I feel like that's okay if you want that, 131 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 7: but you definitely need to make the other person aware 132 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 7: of that prior to the you know, I don't. 133 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 4: Know, I looked I wanted you to come over. I 134 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 4: think we had a fun time. 135 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: If I told you I was tired, you might have 136 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 3: not come over, you know what I mean. 137 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 5: Like I'm just saying right, you acted like it was 138 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 5: a business transaction like it was. 139 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: It was really crappy. Like I thought I was being 140 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: a gentleman. I thought I was. I thought I was 141 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: doing like the right thing, you know. 142 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's like I'm like minutes like like slow play, you. 143 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 4: Call your own no. But I didn't say, like, okay, 144 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,559 Speaker 4: why don't you call your own uber? 145 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: No, I was. I thought it was. It was like 146 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: being a g. 147 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: I got you. Look, I get it. 148 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 4: The clothes were everywhere. I got straightened them up, I gathered. Yeah, 149 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: I mean I got them all together for her. You know, 150 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: I was decyed to be. 151 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: I was trying to be a nice and accommodate. 152 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: Ic so as supposed to be. Like two seconds after 153 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: it's over, hey call your own uber. You just went 154 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: ahead and did it for I'll be honest, that is 155 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: casting over right there. That I mean something about raising 156 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: the bar. 157 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: Okay you put it that way. Yeah, But I felt 158 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: like I was doing the right thing at a time. People, 159 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: I was super tired too. 160 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: I was exhausted, you know. 161 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: I mean I will say that. You can say that 162 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: be like, hey, look I'm really tired. I gotta go 163 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: to bed. You know, I got to get up early tomorrow. 164 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: I mean, people can take a hint. But like I again, 165 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: we just did this very personal thing. I wouldn't necessarily 166 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: do this, right, I mean, just say, hey, you know 167 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: you want some water, Like I don't know, I'm just saying, like, well, 168 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: what would you prefer? You don't want me to offer 169 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: you hydration to kick me out at all. But I'm not. 170 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm not kicking anybody out. I'm just saying, like, there's 171 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: a way to do this where I mean, sure, maybe, 172 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: but you can't honestly tell me that every time you've 173 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: hooked up with some other people in the room, that 174 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: every time you hooked up with someone you wanted them 175 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: to stay the night. I mean, I don't think this 176 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: is I think this guy was rude, but I don't 177 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: think this is a signature male move only. I've definitely 178 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: been at women's houses before where they were like, oh 179 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,119 Speaker 1: oh doing the yawning thing. Oh man, oh I'm so tired, 180 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, I wasn't invited to stay, so 181 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going to stay. That happens on the other. 182 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 7: End too, of course it does, but I still think 183 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 7: it's rude from both parties. 184 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true. 185 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 186 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 5: It was like if you had just said all of that, 187 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 5: I would have understood. But it was so like the 188 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 5: second it was over, I was like, okay, bye, see 189 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 5: yourself out. 190 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: Everybody knows you three to five minutes. It's definitely it does. 191 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: I can see why it felt very transactional. I can 192 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: look I understand, and Paige, I totally get it. 193 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't intend it to come across that way. 194 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: Like I said, I thought I was doing it right, 195 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: saying my gathering up your clothes for you. 196 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: I thought it was you know, I mean. 197 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: I was, I was not in my in the right mindset. 198 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 3: But I will say I had a great time. I 199 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: thought you did too. And uh, you know, if you maybe, 200 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: if if you'd wanted to go out with me again, 201 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: I would love to. 202 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that was okay, that was awesome. 203 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: So Page, Look, he I don't know if he really 204 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: is getting it, but he is. Let's say that he's 205 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: accepted that what he did was rude. You obviously liked 206 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: him up until that point. If he promises you to 207 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: be a little more respectful moving forward, Uh, and you know, 208 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: maybe wait a little while before he calls the uber. 209 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: Would you consider going out with him again? 210 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 6: Absolutely not, because I have self respect and I'm not 211 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 6: putting myself in that situation again. 212 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: I get it. It's something to think about something. Something 213 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm just gonna noodle this one for a 214 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: while and you know maybe Okay, Look, it's not gonna 215 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: work out. Jonah she's not interested. 216 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: Paige. 217 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: Uh, thank you for your time. Good luck to you 218 00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: and Jonah as well. 219 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks for triumph