1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of the Clay, Travis 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show, known to many of you as 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck Show. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: Same show. Very important. 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 3: We've got a lot to talk to you about on 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 3: this lovely Friday. I cannot believe how close Thanksgiving actually 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 3: is already. We will get into some debates and discussions 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: in the next few weeks about cobbler, for example, and 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: some of the most delectable, the most delectable of dessert treats. 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: Some of you Southerners are going to get are gonna 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 3: get fired up again as we discuss your favorite various 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving sides. I don't even know what they are. Sometimes 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 3: there's these these funky names. We will have discussions about 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: all of that and also some very important things that 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: are going on, no doubt about that. 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Like first up, we got Trump. 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: The White House has struck new trade deals with four 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: countries Ecuador, Guatemala, El Salvador, and Argentina to lower tariffs 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: on select goods like beef and yes, Clay coffee, Thank you, 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: Crocket coffee, because we did look into getting coffee from Hawaii. 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: Like everything else in Hawaii, it is muy expensivo. It 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 1: is very Is that actually how you say it in Spanish? 23 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't even know it is very probably not probably, 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: This seems unlikely, but it's I think I just made 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: that's not. I don't speak any Spanish, so I feel 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: good about the MOI, but I don't know right I'd 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: leaned into the MOI. But the rest of it I 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: took French and Arabic in school, so you can make 29 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: of that what you will. Anyway, there's these new trade 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: deals BS for Crocket coffee. That's always exciting too. 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: Go subscribe Crocket Coffee dot com because the tariffs are 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: gonna affect the price of coffee, just like it's affecting 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: a lot of other things right now. 34 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Uh. 35 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: You see, you've also got jd Vance weigh in on 36 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: the housing crisis. Pete Hagseeth, the Secretary of I have 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: to keep saying it just so that it gets redone 38 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: in my mind, you know, so that everyone doesn't have 39 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: to keep on sending in. 40 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: It's the Secretary of War now, I know. But it's 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: been a long time. And I used to work with 42 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: DoD folks, and I used to I used to brief 43 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: the Secretary of Defense on occasion it's not really something 44 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: that comes that naturally to me, so I'm working on it. 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: But Hegseth has announced an operation to remove narco terrorists 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: from our hemisphere, so it feels like that is something 47 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: that is going to be heating up. We've already discussed 48 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: some of the deployments of US military forces into the 49 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: Caribbean way more than we've seen in a very long time. 50 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: And then, of course, Clay, we have the designation of 51 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: Antifa abroad as an international terrorist organization. 52 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: That's something we should discuss. But first stuff. 53 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: I did want to just dive into this Caroline Levitt 54 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: off the top rope here on the Schumer shutdown, and 55 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: I do think it will be known increasingly to everybody 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: as the Schumer shutdown, because it was very much pushed 57 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: by Chuck Schumer and some of the Democrats around him. 58 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: But here is the White House Press Secretary at play. 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: Cut one, President Trump and Republicans slacked Chuck Schumer and 60 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 4: the entire Democrat Party. After forty three days of Chuck 61 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 4: standing out there trying to bravely hold the country hostage 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: and inflict massive pain on the American public, Chuck got 63 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: absolutely nothing. 64 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 5: And now the knives are out for him. 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 4: The Democrat Party is in complete disarray, and the truth 66 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 4: is they have been for ten years since President Trump 67 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: came on the political scene. They ran Senator Jillibrand and 68 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: Senator Mansion out of town. Now they're running Chucky Schumer 69 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: out of town. It's too bad. He turned into a Palestinian. 70 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: He did it for nothing. 71 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: There you go. That was last night on Fox. Clay. 72 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: I do think that. 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: The Democrat this is a big l for them. This 74 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: is a big loss going up on the board. Although 75 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: they could point to these elections, I think they were 76 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: going to win those elections anyway. Honestly, I don't think 77 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: there were any surprises. This is Democrat states, or at 78 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: least Democrat momentum in a place like Virginia. 79 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: I think Jay Jones is the only one where you 80 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: look at and you say, boy, this was disgusting. I mean, 81 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: the attorney general who said that he wanted to kill 82 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: a political opponent's kids and piss on their graves. I'm 83 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: not sure what the official standard for behavior is, but 84 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, you know, that's a tough one 85 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: to get past. And I think candidly, I don't think 86 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: Republicans would have voted for someone who said that. I mean, 87 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of evidence. You can go to 88 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: Alabama for instance, where the Democrat candidate won. 89 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 5: Remember Roy Moore. 90 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: There were the hit pieces that came out against him, 91 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: the judge that would have won, and then the Washington 92 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: Post came out and had a story about his alleged 93 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: involvement with young girls. And I'm not trying to re 94 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: litigate that case in any way. I'm just saying in Alabama, 95 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: which is a deeper red state, as a result, a 96 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: Democrat ended up winning that Senate seat. That was Republicans 97 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: saying yeah, we can't roll with this. I think good, decent, honorable, 98 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: reasonable Democrats should have said, yeah, we'll stick with Jason 99 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: miaras he's already the existing attorney general, and we shouldn't 100 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: reward people who say things like what Jay Jones said. Now, 101 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: the dark side of that election is some Democrats actually 102 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: may have voted for him because he said that, which 103 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: is meaning, you know, not only were they looking past 104 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: what he said, some of them said, you know what, 105 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: I agree with him. There was a great Trump Derangement 106 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: syndrome article in Yesterday's Wall Street Journal, Buck saying that 107 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: it basically meets all the clinical definitions of it. Was 108 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: a psychiatrist basically walking through that Trump derangement syndrome is 109 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: real that and not in substantial number of people out 110 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: there have lost the ability to be rational and reasonable 111 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: in any way based on their antipathy for Trump. And 112 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: I think that's true for a lot of people out there, 113 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: and it happened in the Ags race. 114 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 3: I think it's also really important to note that my book, 115 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: which is coming out in February, which is called Manufacturing 116 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: Delusion and available for pre order right now on Amazon, 117 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: Clay goes into exactly that how do you make people 118 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: politically crazy, as in delusional and not able to see reality? 119 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: And clearly Trump derangement syndrome is the most apparent manifestation 120 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: of that that we see right now. There was the 121 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: COVID madness, there's the trans stuff, There's a whole bunch 122 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: of things, but there is a clear ability and it, 123 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: unfortunately is very prominent in America these days to make 124 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: a lot of people really nuts in the service of 125 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: a political agenda to believe crazy things. And that is 126 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: very scary because it is when people believe untrue and 127 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: crazy things that terrible things happen to societies. Go get 128 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: the pre order now. Manufacturing delusion, that's what we call it. 129 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: That's what I just did. 130 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: Right before this show, I did a fun Zoom podcast 131 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: show with Will Caine, who obviously has this show on 132 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: Fox News now your longtime friend, but we talked a 133 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: lot about the delusion. If you had been a diehard 134 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: sports fan, Buck, I think you would have seen so 135 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: much of the delusion going on in the world of sports, 136 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: and certainly saying men can be women as part of it. 137 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: But even just going through it was fun to kind 138 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: of go through some of these crazy stories. Over the 139 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: last week, there have been a lot of just justy 140 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: smalllette style stories made up in sports Lebron for instance. 141 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: For those of you out in LA, you'll remember this. 142 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: It almost gets no attention. He I think, falsely claimed 143 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: that somebody scrolled a racial slur on his twenty million 144 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: dollar mansion in LA, the Brentwood area of LA. And 145 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: I went through and did an investigation, called the police, 146 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: asked for police reports, the kind of things that someone 147 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: who is in media should do, and the LA police 148 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: just dropped that case and said we'd have found no 149 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: evidence that there was ever a crime committed. Most people 150 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: have no idea that happened, because at least Fox News exists. 151 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: In the world of politics, the New York Post exists, 152 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: there are entities that will kind of go in Shepherd 153 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: and look into stories like these. Now OutKick does. Certainly 154 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: there are hardly anything in sports where people will actually 155 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: ask these questions and say, wait a minute. Lebronesse small 156 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: letted that entire racial slur on the Gate store. Yes, 157 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: I think the evidence is that he did, but because 158 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: nobody covered it, it is kind of just a vanishing story. 159 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: Remember the Bubble Wallace noose story that everybody was like 160 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: hysteria for sure, absurd that NASCAR was super racist and 161 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: that some guy decided, Hey, I'm gonna send a message. 162 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: We're going to have a noose in Bubble Wallace. And 163 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: then the FBI got called in the FBI and they 164 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: did a big investigation, and they were like, this has 165 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: been here for years, and it's actually a common way 166 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: to tie ant. That was the conclusion. It's just I 167 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: think these things would tie in well with your book. 168 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I hope we're coming out of them, but 169 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit afraid that we might not well. 170 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: I even there's even a whole trans chapter and of 171 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: course deal with the Riley Gain situation, and that guy 172 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: who was a girl who's or pretended to be a 173 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: girl to swim, and the fact that people go along 174 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: with this stuff. And I'll say this, the fact that 175 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: people sit around and pretend like Donald Trump is Hitler 176 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: is crazy. And then that there are news shows where 177 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: they still talk about the rise of fascism and they 178 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: speak about Trump in a way that is meant to 179 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: terrify emotionally and psychologically weak people. Now I mean that 180 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: it is not meant to amuse them. It is meant 181 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: to terrify the psychologically weak in the audience of the 182 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: New York Times the other and there's a lot of 183 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: neurotic people often confuse IQ with psychological strength. Not true 184 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: at all. A lot of very high IQ people actually 185 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: have tremendous difficulties dealing with the world around them. Yes, famously, 186 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: you could see like that guy Nash from a Beautiful 187 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: Mind if we've seen movies about this, others the correlation 188 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: between even genius and delusion and psychological issues. Howard Hughes, 189 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: I mean, there's all kinds of stuff right where you 190 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: can point to this and see My point here is 191 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: that there are a lot of very psychologically fragile people 192 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: who have coalesced. And this is true if you look 193 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: at things like heavy SSRI usage, you look at rates 194 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: of self described depression, anxiety, all this clusters on the 195 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: left side of the political aisle, and so their media 196 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: apparatus is constantly feeding into their neuroses and their actual 197 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: phobias they have. 198 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: There are trumphobic people out there. I had a friend 199 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: in college, a good friend of mine. 200 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: Who is always a lib. He texts me, He's like, 201 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 3: what are you going to do when the stormtroopers are 202 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: pulling you and like your friends off the street. And 203 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 3: I felt bad for him, Like, you really think that 204 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 3: that's going to happen? You live in an alternate universe. 205 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: They really do. And the delusional nature of this, I 206 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: think many of you. Here's the positive. I think there 207 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: are tons of you out there listening right now that 208 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: have come to see the truth. And I think every 209 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: day and every week and every month, we add a 210 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: few more people out. 211 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 5: There insanity world. 212 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: And the reason that I would be optimistic about this, 213 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: some of you would say, Okay, Clay, what are you 214 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: basing that optimism in the number of people who didn't 215 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: vote Trump in twenty sixteen that by twenty twenty four 216 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: did vote Trump. It is an extraordinary increase in Trump's support. 217 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: And you know, you go back to twenty sixteen, I 218 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: think it was sixty four million ish people voted for 219 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. A lot of those people over the years 220 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: ahead have have passed away. So we probably have added 221 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: twenty million Trump voters between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four. 222 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: That's a sign that sanity will win. But boy, it's 223 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: been a battle, buck. And that's what I come back 224 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: to and just look at optimistically, is we probably have 225 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: seen between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four around twenty 226 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: million of you, many of whom are listening to us 227 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: right now. 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The Team forty seven podcast Sundays at noon 252 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: Eastern in the Clay. 253 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 5: And Buck podcast feed. 254 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get 255 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: your podcasts. Welcome back in Play, Travis buck Sexton Show. 256 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: We are rolling through the Friday edition of the program, 257 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: and really stock market I when I saw it open. 258 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: I know that a lot of you may not follow 259 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: the stock market from minute to minute, but I do, 260 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: and uh, it looked like it was going to be 261 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: a rough day in the stock market. I'm just looking 262 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: up at CNBC right now, and if you checked where 263 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: the stock market was at nine am Eastern in your 264 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: and where it is right now at twelve thirty, it 265 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: has had a massive move towards the positive where we 266 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: may well be challenging all time records yet again by 267 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: the end of the week, which is pretty extraordinary. And 268 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: it comes back Buck to I think the central question 269 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: as we move into twenty twenty six is not only 270 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: going to be where the economy is, but to what 271 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: extent do people start top to bottom, whether you're super 272 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: rich billionaire or somebody who is really living paycheck to paycheck. 273 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: You and I can speak to the paycheck to paycheck living. 274 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: Never have experienced the super rich billionaire life. I mean nice, 275 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: but do people start to feel it? Because the biggest 276 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: challenge here, I think is if you're trying to message 277 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: bidenomic style something that people don't feel when it comes 278 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: to daily cost or daily experience in their life, it 279 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: can make you feel out of touch. And so I 280 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: think the central challenge of twenty twenty six is to 281 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: what extent do people start to feel better about the economy. 282 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: Democrats are right, because they hate Trump, They're going to 283 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: pretend that things are awful. But those middle of the 284 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: road voters that will decide who wins the House, who 285 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: wins the Senate, how do you win those guys and gals. 286 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: To me, that's the biggest question as we start to 287 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: look towards the start of twenty twenty six, Well, we 288 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: certainly need to hear more, I think from this administration 289 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: about what the economic message, what the plans are for 290 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Twenty twenty five has been very good. 291 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: I know people are worried about prices and feeling that pinch, 292 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: but that is something that was inherited. If I tell 293 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: you that the Biden administration had the worst inflation in 294 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: forty four, zero forty years, it's going to take more 295 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: than a year for people to feel like wages have 296 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: kept up with that. But they've been moving in the 297 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: right direction, and certainly the overall markets housing markets, the 298 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: situation with the tariffs. There's a lot to feel positive about. 299 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: But I do think Clay here, I'll put it this way, 300 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: front page of your favorite New York Times today, at 301 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 3: least on the website, a whole piece on how MAGA 302 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: is getting a little fed up with all the Trump 303 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: globe trotting and focus on other countries there or not. 304 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 2: I will tell you I have heard. 305 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 3: From the faithful, both those with platforms and just everyday 306 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: folks that they're a little frustrated with some of that 307 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 3: right now too. 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Clay. 336 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in here to Clay an Buck. 337 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 3: We're talking about how the political scene is playing out 338 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 3: right now in the aftermath of the down and jd 339 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: Vance Vice President doing a really phenomenal job, and I 340 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 3: feel very positive about the future of MAGA, the Republican 341 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: Party America. First, all that stuff not just with JD. 342 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 3: Marco is doing a great job as Secretary of State. 343 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: Scott Bessen is a Treasury secretary. There's a lot of 344 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 3: really top tier political talent that Trump has surrounded himself with. 345 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: And I'll just say this the biggest difference I think 346 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: between other than maybe some focus and the being touched 347 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 3: by the hand of God to save Trump's life so 348 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: that he could win that election. I mean, there's a 349 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: lot of things, but there's a big difference in the 350 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 3: teams this time around versus if you looked at a 351 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: year into Trump's first term in battle with the Russia collusion, 352 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 3: lie a lot of people around him that you know 353 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 3: weren't right for the job. You couldn't really trust them. 354 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 3: There were problems. This time around, the team is excellent, 355 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: and I think JD. Vance is right at the top 356 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: of that list, which is good because he's a vice president. 357 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 3: Here is JD talking about how the shutdown was much 358 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: ado about nothing and Democrats they own it, play. 359 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 5: It longest shutdown on history. 360 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: Can you tell me what the point of all that was? 361 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 6: I wish that I knew, Sean, because here's what the 362 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 6: Democrats actually accomplished. They caused a lot of stress for 363 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 6: our troops. They made our traffic controllers not get paid. 364 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 6: They caused a lot of flight cancelations, They had a 365 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 6: lot of people thinking they weren't going to get their 366 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 6: food benefits, all for literally nothing, Sean, because we could 367 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 6: have struck this exact deal forty five days ago. In fact, 368 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 6: we met with Hakeem Jefferies and Chuck Schumer and said 369 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 6: we will pass this exact deal. 370 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 5: They said no. 371 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 6: They put the American people through a ton of pain 372 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 6: and suffering for nothing. And we knew this was going 373 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 6: to happen, Sean. We knew the President of United States 374 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 6: said every single day. Eventually the Democrats are going to 375 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 6: realize this is an absurd position. We've got to reopen 376 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 6: the government. 377 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 5: And that's what they did. 378 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 2: I clay one part of this. 379 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: Just as we look on what happened here, imagine the 380 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: disillusionment of the Republican voter base if the Democrats were 381 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: six if they had caved on this. So we've got 382 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: a Republican president, Republican majority in the House. In the 383 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: Senate previously agreed to spending level that was only ever 384 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: in place because of a quote emergency under Biden. The 385 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: American rescue plan and they can just make this demand. 386 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: I mean, in retrospect, it was the whole thing was absurd. 387 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 1: They have just made themselves into such a reflexively anti 388 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: Trump party that there is a benefit in being the 389 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: most anti Trump Democrat. There isn't actually a tangible political 390 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: result that is beneficial though, Right, So this is one 391 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: of those things where we were talking about Jasmin Crockett, 392 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: and I do think it's an interesting conversation. Jasmin Crockett 393 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: can have for herself a successful brand that she has 394 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: created that simultaneously makes the larger Democrat brand worse, and 395 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: that's not really. 396 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 5: What you want, right. 397 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: The goal is for you to be the rising tide 398 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: that lifts all boats. 399 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 5: MAGA. 400 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: I think Trump has very rarely when he's been on 401 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: the ballot harmed anybody else on the ballot around him. 402 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: And in fact, you can go look at the most 403 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: contentious states right, the seven toss up states. Trump, if 404 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: he had gotten the exact same support that he did 405 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: for all these other candidates, we'd have fifty seven or 406 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: fifty eight senators in Washington right now, right, Trump one Arizona, 407 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: the Senate candidate did not Trump one Michigan. The senate 408 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: candidate did not Trump one. Wisconsin, the senate candidate did 409 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: not Trump one. Nevada, the senate candidate did not Trump 410 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: won Georgia. So far, the senate candidates have not right 411 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: seeing a pattern. So Trump is the rising tide now. 412 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes Dave McCormick our friends and was able to get 413 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: across that line in the toss up state of Pennsylvania. 414 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: But by and large ticket splitters actually voted Trump and 415 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: then they were more likely to vote Democrat. Jasmine Crockett, 416 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: please run for Senate in Texas, Jasmine, I hope they 417 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: clipped this. 418 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 5: I hope this goes right to you. 419 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: You are the candidate Texas Democrats need. You are the 420 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: voice of the oppressed in the state of Texas. No 421 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: one else can make the case like you can. 422 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 5: Please run. Clip that. 423 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: Share it with Jasmine. Okay, here's why, Buck. That would 424 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: be a disaster because she would motivate a tiny fringe 425 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: of the Democrat base, which is leading her to prominence, 426 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: but she would actually drag down the overall Democrat party 427 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: ticket around her. And I think one of the challenges 428 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: that Democrats have is being reflexively anti Trump works in 429 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: making you more popular in the Democrat Party, but actually 430 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: destroys the Democrat Party's brand on a larger context when 431 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: it comes to winning in states where it's tough. And 432 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: so I don't know who can thread that needle. Who 433 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: can be just kind of media mediocre Trump right, like 434 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: he's not hitler as a Democrat, so that you could 435 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: straddle that ability to grab the middle road voters. Maybe 436 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: it's Scretchen Whitmer. I don't know how that will play 437 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: out in and I think she's awful, by the way, 438 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: but she's shown up and been public at Trump press conferences. 439 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: She hasn't been running from him, if that makes sense. 440 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: And so I wonder can anybody nail that thread that 441 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: would make them a viable candidate twenty eight going forward. 442 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 3: If you were to take Joe Biden and reverse the 443 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 3: tape about thirty years something like that, twenty something years. 444 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 3: I think that Gavin Newsom and Joe Biden are actually 445 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 3: from this. They came off the same assembly line. I 446 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 3: think that his real skill. And you can say, oh, 447 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: but Biden always played Biden Delaware as blue as blue 448 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: can be, has been for a long time. It's why 449 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 3: Joe Biden can get elected to the Senate for forty years. 450 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 3: I think that Gavin Newsom is preparing, and I know 451 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: we see that. We see it the same way that 452 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 3: he's going to be the guy for them. But I 453 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 3: think that he'll be able to use political bsing skills 454 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: to get over a lot of the real policy deficiencies 455 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: and challenges that exist as a result of his governance 456 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: of California. So I still think that O'Reilly, uncle Bill. 457 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 3: He disagrees with us on this one. We may be 458 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 3: carving up a delicious steak. I've never seen Bill in 459 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: an apron work in the grill. This might have to 460 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 3: happen out there on Strong Island, Uncle Bill on the grill. 461 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 3: I think that Gaven neusim's because to your point, it's 462 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 3: about you see someone like a Jasmine Crockett. Yes, I 463 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: think she's managed to build a brand for herself, but 464 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 3: I think there are limitations on that brand because of 465 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 3: our raise it. But someone like Aavin Newsom, he'll play 466 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 3: the game man and he'll say whatever he has to 467 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: say to whatever audience, and he'll say it pretty well, 468 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 3: and he'll be slick about it. Biden, we think of 469 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 3: now as the doddering old fool. He's kind of a 470 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 3: just a political wind up toy for a long time. 471 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 3: I mean, well, put aside the puppeteer stuff of his 472 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: later life, but I just mean he'd go and he'd grin, 473 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: and he'd say the stuff he had to say to 474 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: the people he had to say it to. Very newsome 475 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 3: esk in that respect, you know. 476 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: Has a sociopathic ability to falsely connect with people. I 477 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: just I don't know, right, So I'm already looking ahead 478 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: to twenty eight. We should probably play at some point 479 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: in the show, we will the clips from JD Vance 480 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: talking about twenty eight because he's starting to talk about 481 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: his political future going forward, and he said, Hey, at 482 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: some point after the mid terms, I'll sit down with 483 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: President Trump and talk about with him what my plans are. 484 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: And there's always the possibility of, you know, there being 485 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: some wild card candidates out there, because I do think 486 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people will run. And lord knows, I mean, 487 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: look at what happened in February of twenty twenty when 488 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: COVID suddenly showed up in an election year. There's any 489 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: number of crazy things that can happen as we move 490 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: towards that twenty twenty eight universe. I just think it's 491 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: going to be the Democrat side. Will there be a 492 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: lane for someone who's not crazy, because Joe Biden took 493 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: that lane and got the nomination, or is it going 494 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 1: to be a huge cadre of people competing in that 495 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: Jasmine Crocket crazy lane because that's what the party wants 496 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: in the party. 497 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: I think the Democrats need someone who the left knows 498 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: is actually a leftist. 499 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: This is the Obama playbook. 500 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 501 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: In the case of Biden, it was they knew that 502 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 2: he was the trojan horse. They knew that he was. 503 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: A false flag essentially like, oh, I'm a moderate. 504 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: No one thought that. Everyone knew the advisors were going 505 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 3: to be on the show, and the advisors were a 506 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 3: bunch of comedies. Same thing with Obama, except they thought 507 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: Obama was going to be making the decisions. But Obama 508 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: was even able to pretend to be something else on 509 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: some key issues to get elected that the Democrat base knew, 510 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, he's not really going to do that though, 511 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 3: or he's not really going. 512 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: To view things that way. 513 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 3: And you know gay marriage, for example, being one of 514 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: the most prominent ones where he just said, yeah, I 515 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 3: changed my mind on that, and I think that that 516 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 3: was known all along that he would do that. So 517 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom, I think has that same skill set to 518 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 3: pretend to be something else. But back to the affordability issue, 519 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 3: which I know is something that is on a lot 520 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: of people's minds right now. Because look, I'll just say this. 521 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 3: My father in law is here today. Carrie and him 522 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: are actually at home depot right now working on some plantings, 523 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: you know, doing the things that that people do. 524 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: I have no I feel badly by the way I 525 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: have no. 526 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: I am not helpful. He is like he can, he 527 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: could build a house. I mean, he has built houses. 528 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: So he just shows the Archer house and fixes all 529 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: sorts of thoris that are broken. It's he's the father 530 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: in law with the tool belt who's just like, well, 531 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: you need to take a few sprockets and connect him 532 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: into the uh the flux capacitor and then you just 533 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: take this over thing here and you know, bang bang bang, 534 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, it works amazing. I have no idea 535 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: what he's doing. 536 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 4: Father. 537 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: Laura's dad is also able to fix anything. And he 538 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 1: will show up and Laura will have a list of 539 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: things that she needs fixed and he'll just walk around 540 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: and fix him. I feel bad like he's trying to 541 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: include being in and tell me like how he's fixing 542 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: the things too. And I'm saying, yeah, like I know 543 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: what's going on, Clay, I have nophisticated enough to even 544 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: understand what's going on. I'm the same, I have no idea. 545 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: He's using tools that I've never even seen before. I'm like, 546 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: what is that? 547 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: What is that thing? 548 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 5: That thing? 549 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: It looks like you use that to open like, uh, 550 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: you know a that of whale oil in the eighteen sixties, Like, 551 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: what is this? 552 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: I don't even know what this is? 553 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: Anyway, here is here is a moment though where he 554 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: or there was a moment though where he came in 555 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: said I just bought milk. He's making coffee this morning 556 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: at the house Crockett obviously, and. 557 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: I just bought some milk. 558 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 3: And he's like it was like eight dollars and I 559 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: just that actually is crazy. 560 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe it was. 561 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: Seven seventy or something whatever, but gallon of milk is 562 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: almost eight bucks here in Florida. 563 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: And this is at publics. This is not at some 564 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 3: this is not at shade fancy fancy. This is just 565 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: a grocery store in my neighborhood. Things have gotten really expensive. 566 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: That that is a real thing that people should be 567 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: annoyed about because it is government policy. Were not at 568 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: a milk shortage, No, one hundred percent. And I think 569 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 1: this is again where Biden was so bad some of 570 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: you out there historically. I think the best analogy is 571 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: how long did it take for the inflation from Jimmy 572 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: Carter to burn out in public anger? And unfortunately you 573 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: just got used to what things cost and then people 574 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: were able to adjust. JD went right into this with 575 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: Sean last night, like cut twenty here, where he's saying, look, yes, 576 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: prices are high. This does take some time to adjust 577 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: Play twenty for. 578 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 6: A lot of people out there, Sean, who are saying 579 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 6: things are expensive, and we have to remember they're expensive 580 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 6: because we inherited this terrible inflation crisis from the Biden administration. 581 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 6: But you've already seen signs that things are getting better. 582 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 6: The price of eggs has gone way down. The price 583 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 6: of energy has gone way down, the price of gasoline 584 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 6: has gone way down. And as we know, when the 585 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 6: price of energy goes down, that starts to filter out 586 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 6: into the entire economy. But that also takes a little 587 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 6: bit of time. 588 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: It's truere you go and I think again, for those 589 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: of you who lived through the worst worst inflation of 590 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter, you and Ibock were so young. Was it 591 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four when you suddenly started thinking, Okay, the 592 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: Reagan economy is starting to take quite certainly, when he 593 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: won forty nine states, it's a pretty good sign that 594 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: people were voting with their pocketbooks. Then, But when do 595 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: people get used Because I'll be honest, I've never lived 596 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: through this. I'm still frustrated with what things cost because 597 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: you have in your mind what something should cost and 598 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: then you get a bill and it's way more than that, 599 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: and it makes you angry. And the big challenge, and 600 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: again I've said it, is you can't really dial that 601 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: back once price increases are embedded. You just have to 602 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: slow down the increase and then slowly people get used 603 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: to it. 604 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 3: I mean, do you feel like the Saltan of Brunei though? 605 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 3: When you buy Chick fil A for your kids these days, 606 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 3: it's like one hundred bucks. 607 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 5: I mean it's crazy. 608 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Like when I'm looking, when I'm sitting there 609 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: thinking to myself when I'm going through the drive through 610 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: and I see like I pull up and they're like, 611 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: that'll be sixty four dollars. I'm like, sixty four dollars. 612 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: Used to be, you could go into a restaurant, sit 613 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: down and have a meal and it would be like 614 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: sixty four dollars for my family. Now it's a fast 615 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: food meal. And by the way, this is one of 616 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: the challenges these fast casual chains are having in general, 617 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: is they're not much more. 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Every 636 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: dollar helps, don't wait be the difference IFCJ dot org 637 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 3: or call eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ Keeek. 638 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 6: Out with the guys on the Sunday Hang with Clay 639 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 6: and Buck podcast, a new episode every Sunday. 640 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get 641 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 642 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: We will take some of your calls eight hundred and 643 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: two A two two eight A two. We're also going 644 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: to head out to California. Talk to our buddy Steve 645 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: Hilton at the bottom of the next hour. He's running 646 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: for governor as a Republican, and we wanted to talk 647 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: somewhat Buck about the fact that all of that area 648 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: that was burned in the wildfires, it's now been roughly 649 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: ten months or so since that happened. There's been almost 650 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: no rebuilding that has been allowed to take place at 651 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: all there. If you wonder what is going on why 652 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: people are so fed up with Gavin Newsom's leadership. That's 653 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: a lot of Democrats, Republicans, Independence people who live in 654 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: that LA area that lost their homes. We had Adam 655 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: Carolla on to talk about this because he has a 656 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: place and has lived in that area his whole life. 657 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: I do think that this is a major issue. We'll 658 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: talk about that with Steve Hilton. 659 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 2: Also. 660 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 1: President Trump has posted on the Jeffrey Epstein story as 661 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: it appears more of those investigatory files are going to 662 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: be released soon, and he is saying something that you 663 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: and I have been talking about for a long time. 664 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 1: Why And I'll read that for you at the top 665 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: of the next hour. But something to think about this 666 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: part of this story that has never added up for 667 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: you or me, is how in the world did Jeffrey 668 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: Epstein get so filthy rich. Most people who become seven 669 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: eight hundred million dollar wealth billionaires, there's a big ticket 670 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: win that they had. They had an ownership and a 671 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: big company. They sold some a set that's tangible that 672 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: you can look at and say that's never been the 673 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: case with Epstein. How did he go from having virtually 674 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: nothing to being worth in the neighborhood of five six hundred, 675 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: seven hundred million dollars. 676 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 5: What happened there? 677 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 1: Trump saying, let's look at the banks and figure out 678 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: what they knew about the transactions there and the money 679 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: that was moving in and out of his accounts. 680 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 3: Yep I think that's the right move for Trump. Say, 681 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 3: you know what, if we're going to do this, let's 682 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 3: really do this everybody. Let's see who knew what and when, 683 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 3: because I have every confidence that none of this goes 684 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 3: anywhere near a problem for Trump personally. But some of 685 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 3: these financial big wigs and some of these banks, and 686 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 3: what were they doing with this guy? Play very interesting. 687 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 3: Trump takes us into that direction. We'll talk about it 688 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 3: coming up.