1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Well, we'll come in to your city, don't way gets 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: saying you a conscious will be entire high. 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: And if you want a little banging again, you come 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: along people that were sending out the criminals that the 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: illegal aliens coming from their countries were taking them back, 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: and they're going to take them back fast and if 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: they don't, they'll pay a very high economic price. 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 3: And arrest of quote fifty illegal aliens right there, Alex. 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 4: Yep, we call them undocumented immigrants. 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 5: To understand, I'm so sorry I could do something they 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 5: don't know what to do. 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 4: Fredom is back in style. Welcome to the revolution. 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: Will come in to your city, don't way are get tals. 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 6: And saying you a conscious. 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 5: The New Sean Hannity Show, more me I'm the scenes, 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 5: information on freaking news, and more bold inspired solutions for America. 17 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 7: All right, thanks Scott shan An hour two Sean Hannity Show, 18 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 7: eight hundred and nine point one. Shawn is a number 19 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 7: if you want to be a part of the program. 20 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 7: We go back to President was just in the Oval 21 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 7: Office dealing with and he's right about this. We don't 22 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 7: know whether the DEI hiring practices of p Buddha Judge 23 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 7: and the Harris Biden administration had any impact on this 24 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 7: particular case. We just don't know. We just know that 25 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 7: under Buddha Judge that they came up with language. It 26 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 7: was on the website of the FAA up until the 27 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 7: twenty second of January this year that they did have 28 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 7: up there very specific language that said people that suffer 29 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 7: severe intellectual disability, psychiatric problem, and other mental and physical 30 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 7: conditions under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled out 31 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 7: the agency's website. Now, does that mean in any way 32 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 7: that this impacted what happened in this case. 33 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 6: Nobody knows. We don't know. 34 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 7: But the President went on to say what I was 35 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 7: saying is is that those criteria should not be a 36 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 7: factor in hiring anybody that is an air traffic controller 37 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 7: or works in the FAA. And now, learning from John Solomon, 38 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 7: just thenews dot com. The mid air collision between this 39 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 7: American Airlines passenger jet and this Army Blackhawk helicopter was 40 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 7: preceded by months of near misses at airports all across 41 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 7: the country, as well as increasingly shrill warnings that the 42 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 7: nation's air traffic control and safety system was stretched to 43 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 7: the limit, and regulators acknowledged this that in twenty twenty 44 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 7: three there were nineteen serious their description near missus at 45 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 7: US airports and that they could have been catastrophic, one 46 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 7: of the largest totals that we've had in years. And 47 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 7: only fourteen months before what happened last night at Reagan National, 48 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 7: the FAA received a safety expert report that warned America's 49 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 7: air traffic control system is suffering from quality control issues, 50 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 7: staffing shortages. That's putting safety at risk. Now, what was 51 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 7: the president's point? He goes, you need various the top 52 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 7: people in these positions. And you know, he said he's 53 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 7: going to get to the bottom of it immediately, and 54 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 7: these DEI practices are finished. You have to hire the 55 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 7: best people for the job. That's all there is to it. 56 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 7: And you know, things like this can be avoided, and 57 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 7: we want them to be avoided anyway. Joining us now 58 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 7: to discuss John Scott is with us, of course. John 59 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 7: hosts The Fox Report every Saturday and Sunday six pm 60 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 7: on the Fox News Channel. Been a colleague of mine 61 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 7: my entire time at Fox News. He's a private pilot himself. 62 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 7: Marine Corps Colonel William Bernard Dunn is with us, a 63 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 7: military attack helicopter pilot who has flown in and around DC. 64 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 7: We welcome you both to the program. John, I'll start 65 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 7: with you. You've been a pilot for a long time. This 66 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 7: has been a passion of hers for a long time. 67 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 8: It has. Yeah, I've loved aviation since I was a kid. 68 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, let's talk about you know, first of all, John 69 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 7: Solomon's report is very alarming to me. There have been 70 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 7: all these near misses and at historic levels at airports 71 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 7: around the country. You know, that seems to now be 72 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 7: looking back in hindsight at the Canary and the coal mine. 73 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 7: But things like this really can be prevented if we 74 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 7: take proper control of the skies. This is a preventable accident, right, and. 75 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 8: Just about every aviation accident is preventable. You know. It's 76 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 8: rarely the situation where one thing happens that causes a 77 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 8: flight to go down. It's not, you know, normal for 78 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 8: a plane to go up in the wing, falls off 79 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,559 Speaker 8: or something like that. If usually, one small mistake leads 80 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 8: to another, leads to another, leads to another. And I 81 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 8: think some of that is clearly visible in what happened 82 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 8: last night and I'm sure it will be outlined in 83 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 8: the eventual in TSB report. 84 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, and then let me bring in Marine Corps Colonel 85 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 7: William Bernard Dunn. Every aircraft has what's called a t 86 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 7: CAST system, a traffic collision warning system, and I'm just 87 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 7: a little bit surprised because in helicopters and in any 88 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 7: jet in this particular case, they have very sophisticated avionics 89 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 7: and warning systems, and the redundancy is very and you 90 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 7: would imagine at some point that both the helicopter and 91 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 7: the airliner jet were being worn by the system and 92 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 7: somehow something didn't work in this case. Any theories of 93 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 7: what might have happened, or is this like most cases 94 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 7: when you have a crash, as usually, is pilot error 95 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 7: or it could be air traffic control error. 96 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, Sean, thanks for having me. I watched the video 97 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 9: today of the impact. You know one thing, if you 98 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 9: have a TACASS and you're in an airport area, you 99 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 9: know that TACAST is going to be going off over 100 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 9: and over again. And it's very logical that sometimes a 101 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 9: pilot becomes very insensitized to it and may even turn 102 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 9: it off, which would not be necessarily unusual in this 103 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 9: instant the TCASS. What should have prevented this aircraft misapp 104 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 9: is the pilot seeing the other aircraft and the air 105 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 9: traffic control. And I am not pointing fingers at anybody, 106 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 9: but I have flown Cobra aircraft right around Reagan National 107 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 9: Airport before, and normally, when you're flying a helicopter out there, 108 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 9: you'll have a limitation of being you have to stay 109 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 9: one hundred feet below, or at least when I flew 110 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 9: out there. 111 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: They did. 112 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 9: This aircraft was substantially higher than that and actually flew 113 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 9: right in the flight path of the jet. So the 114 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 9: pilot should have been able to see it, and the 115 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 9: crew should have been able to see it as well 116 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 9: as the aircraft controller should have made sure they had 117 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 9: clear avoidance. 118 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean and us in every case, correct me 119 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 7: if I'm wrong. The jet that is on a track 120 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 7: towards a landing and descending about the land they always 121 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 7: have the first right to continue their flight. It would 122 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 7: be the obligation of the helicopter pilot to get out 123 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 7: of the way, would it not. 124 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 9: It would absolutely, And in aviation, the aircraft that's the 125 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 9: most maneuverable has got the requirement or separation and so 126 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 9: the helicopter's way more maneuveral, substantially more maneuverable than the jet, 127 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 9: and the jets on a path that they can't maneuver 128 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 9: very well without. 129 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 7: And the air and the jet has the right of 130 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 7: way under FA rules right absolutely. 131 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 9: And they're both they both should have been under positive control. 132 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 9: I heard that there has been calls to the helicopter 133 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 9: and they didn't respond, which could have meant they were 134 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 9: dealing with something inside the cockpit. And we don't have 135 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 9: voice data re quarters in our military aircraft, which I've 136 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 9: been pushing for for some time. We need to get 137 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 9: them in there. That alone could have told us what 138 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 9: happened in this particular incident. 139 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 7: A couple of Now, what is your reaction, John Scott, 140 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 7: The fact that the jet, the airplane had the right 141 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 7: of way under FA rules, and especially since it was 142 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 7: on an approach for a landing. 143 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 8: It absolutely did. And there is a frozen zone if 144 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 8: you will, above an airport anywhere anywhere below or I'm 145 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 8: sorry above the three degree glide slope angle that incoming 146 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 8: aircraft have, and they have the right of way. The 147 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 8: chopper was on what's called Route four along the east 148 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 8: bank of the Potomac River there supposed to be limited 149 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 8: if they are flying north of the Woodrow Wilson Bridge 150 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 8: supposed to be limited to a maximum of two hundred 151 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 8: feet basically above the river. The impact took place at 152 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 8: about three hundred and fifty feet, so the chopper was 153 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 8: definitely higher than it should have been. Now, it was 154 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 8: a gusty night. It was clear, but it was gusty, 155 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 8: and it can be difficult to hold altitude in very 156 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 8: gusty conditions. That's one of the factors that's going to 157 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 8: be involved here. But Colone Dunn, I wanted to ask you, 158 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 8: did your military helicopters have the tea caass system. I 159 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 8: was speaking to a friend who used to fly top 160 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 8: gun for the Navy and then became a commercial pilot 161 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 8: for years. Is excellent pilot, but he said he is 162 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 8: of the opinioner of the belief that the military craft 163 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 8: do not have teacasts and therefore would not have been 164 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 8: able to talk to the American jet. 165 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 9: Well, my Cobra did not have tea casts. I know 166 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 9: some of the trainer aircraft in the Navy and the 167 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 9: Marine Corps do have tea casts, and like I say, 168 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 9: the teacast in this scenario for the helicopter would not 169 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 9: have done much good. In my mind, it would have 170 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 9: done a lot for the airliner. But the helicopter's low 171 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 9: to the ground, and if you're in a you know, 172 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 9: if you're in an airport setting, there's multiple airplanes flying, 173 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 9: taking off, flying around, and especially in the DC area, 174 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 9: it's just gonna become overwhelming. So I don't know if 175 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 9: this particular black Hawk had it. I do know that 176 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 9: some of my peers that have flown aircraft with teacasts 177 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 9: will turn it all the way down or shut it off. 178 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 9: In some aircraft, I'm assuming you can shut off. I 179 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 9: don't know, But if they shut it off, obviously it 180 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 9: does no good. But because that noise is saturating the cockpit, 181 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 9: which is what deep the causes of a mishap is 182 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 9: cockpit saturation. 183 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: Right Cornold. 184 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 7: Let me ask you Pete Heegsa's comments that the military 185 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 7: does dangerous things, it does routine things on a regular basis. Tragically, 186 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 7: last night a mistake was made. I think the President 187 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 7: is right, there are some sort of elevation issue that 188 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 7: we have immediately begun investigating into DoD How do you 189 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 7: interpret that. 190 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 9: There's no doubt in my mind that this was an 191 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 9: avoidable mishap. As as John mentioned, most mishapps when you 192 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 9: when you peel back the onion, they are avoidable. The altitude, 193 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 9: you know, any quality pilot should be able to hold 194 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 9: altitude even in the worst conditions. And Pete Heigsseth, Secretary Heisath, 195 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 9: said that this was an experienced crew doing an annual training. 196 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 9: So I know plenty of pilots that have flown in 197 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 9: terrible conditions and they can hold their altitude. So other 198 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 9: than a situational awareness blip inside the cockpit, it causing 199 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 9: the climb. You know, I don't see that they couldn't 200 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 9: hold because of gust or wind unless there was an 201 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,119 Speaker 9: emergency in the cockpit, which the investigation will hopefully determine 202 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 9: and hopefully they'll figure out what exactly went wrong. 203 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 7: When you look at the video, John Scott, and this 204 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 7: is very common. By the way, the helicopter was sort 205 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 7: of perpendicular and maybe requested. For example, I would not 206 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 7: be uncommon for a bird or chopper to cross a 207 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 7: runway with permission of the air traffic control and that 208 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 7: they'd be cleared for that, and thinking it was an 209 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 7: inactive runway or the helicopter pilot got his position wrong. 210 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 7: I don't you know, we don't know the answer to 211 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 7: any of these questions at this point. But the last 212 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 7: reported position the airplane was just outside the runway. It's 213 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 7: possible or is it possible the helicopter was cleared and 214 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 7: on the adjacent a runway and somehow things got mixed up. 215 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 7: I mean, at that point do we have to begin 216 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 7: to look at air traffic control and see if they 217 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 7: played a part in this. 218 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 8: I think there will be blame to go around, eventually, 219 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 8: assessed Sean. We talked about the fact that the air 220 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 8: traffic control called out to the helicopter and did not 221 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 8: get a response. Well, I have since learned that the 222 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 8: systems or the monitoring systems that we rely on in 223 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 8: the news business too, you know, to give us those 224 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 8: air traffic recordings, they are not allowed to monitor the 225 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 8: military frequencies, the UHF frequency. When when the tower calls, 226 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 8: when they key their mic, they are broadcasting both on 227 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 8: military UHF frequencies as well as civilian VHF frequencies. So 228 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 8: the fact that the tower called and did not and 229 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 8: we did not hear a response from the chopper is 230 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 8: completely understandable because it's not allowed to record those UHF responses. 231 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 8: Now I have heard the response on a UHF frequency, 232 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 8: and the chopper pilot was saying, yes, I see the CRJ, 233 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 8: and I will I believe he says it's a bit garbled, 234 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 8: but he says, I'll maintain visual meaning I'll maintain visual 235 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 8: contact and stay out of his way. 236 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 6: Wasn't there also an instruction to fly behind the jet? 237 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, and as soon almost as soon as that 238 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 8: instruction took place, as soon as it was given, that's 239 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 8: almost the moment the impact happened. So I think that 240 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 8: he was looking at the wrong aircraft. The chopper crew 241 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 8: was looking at the wrong aircraft, thought they were well 242 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 8: clear of it and didn't see the aircraft that hit them. 243 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 8: The other thing, Sean I would just say quickly is 244 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 8: that air traffic control was not very precise. They normally 245 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 8: should say, you know PAP twenty five, which was a 246 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 8: call sign in the chopper, do you have the traffic 247 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 8: at your twelve o'clock. They didn't say that. They said 248 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 8: do you see the CRJ And the chopper pilot said yes, 249 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 8: But again he was probably looking at the wrong jet. 250 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 9: Give you the last word, Colonel, you know I agree 251 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 9: with that assessment. I have been I took off on 252 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 9: an alta Cottam airfield in Iraq one day, and I 253 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 9: got clearance to take off at the same time air 254 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 9: traffic control authorized the sea seventeen the land on the 255 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 9: opposite runway, and the only way we didn't hit was 256 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 9: just a little bit of luck and a little bit 257 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 9: of grace of God. I think we're going to find 258 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 9: out that in this instance, it's going to be a 259 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 9: either mistaken aircraft, like hey, I see it, but I'm 260 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 9: looking at it, and we use very specific terms in 261 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 9: the cockpit. You know, I see the bird is not acceptable. 262 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 9: See the aircraft on final is how you would have 263 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 9: reported that. I've heard the President's discussion about potential DEI. 264 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 9: I pray that had nothing to do with it. If 265 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 9: it did, every American should be outraged if they had 266 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 9: anything to do with this missive in any form work. 267 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 7: It didn't say for sure, but he did point out 268 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 7: we went back and looked at the DEI regulations implemented 269 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 7: by Pete Boodha Judge and the Harris and Biden administration, 270 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 7: and I got to tell you that it's it's it's 271 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 7: kind of alarming. You know, I would not have ever 272 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 7: imagined that they would have directives as they did. You 273 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 7: know that mandate people would psychiatric problems and severe intellectual 274 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 7: disabilities and mental and physical conditions. 275 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 10: Uh. 276 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 7: You know, b be given special consideration for hiring in 277 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 7: such important jobs. And I'm all in favor of non 278 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 7: discrimination against anybody, but this is a job that required 279 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 7: the best person, and those considerations I don't think would 280 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 7: factor in. But there's no indication, as I said, that 281 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 7: this has been a factor here. We appreciate both of you. Colonel, 282 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 7: Thank you, John Scott, always a pleasure, my friend. 283 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 6: Thank you. 284 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 7: Anyway, the President was in the Oval office. We'll tell 285 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 7: you about that when we get back a much more 286 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 7: straight ahead. 287 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 5: Exposing government waste and abuse of your liberties every day. 288 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 6: Sean Hannity is on right now. 289 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 7: By twenty five till the top of the hour, eight 290 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 7: hundred and nine four one, Shawn a number. You want 291 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 7: to be a part of the program. I love to cook. 292 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 7: I find it relaxing and I like to cook to perfection. 293 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 7: I'm a perfectionist when it comes to cooking, and if 294 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 7: something does not come out the way I intend, I'm 295 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 7: not that happy. I get pretty pissed off, but I 296 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 7: don't have to worry about it anymore because of technology. 297 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 7: And it's brilliant and it's inexpensive, and you're going to 298 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 7: enjoy it and all your friends and family. You're going 299 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 7: to think you went to culinary school by the time 300 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 7: you cook your next meal for that. And it's called 301 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 7: chef iq sense. You know the feeling when you make 302 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 7: I don't know, maybe making pork ribs or pork chops, 303 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 7: or even just a cheeseburger or a steak, or maybe 304 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 7: a favorite fish or chicken, whatever it happens to be, 305 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 7: and when it's perfect, it's no better feeling. And this 306 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 7: is why chef i q Sense is so great. It's 307 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 7: a modern, completely wireless cooking thermometer. It's like a probe. 308 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 7: You just take it, you put it in whatever you're cooking, 309 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 7: and it ensores eliminates any possibility of undercooking or overcooking 310 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 7: your food. 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Look, 331 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 7: it's predictable everything that has gone on, as I told 332 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 7: you on Monday and Tuesday this week. Just buckle up 333 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 7: because this is gonna be the Democrats reverting to form. 334 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 7: We see it both in the state run legacy medium 335 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 7: mob and we see it with Democrats Democrats are angry. 336 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 7: They went from a state of utter shock and confusion 337 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 7: and they've now entered a different stage of I don't know, grief, 338 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 7: call it whatever you want to call it. 339 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 6: And they're in the. 340 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 7: Anger stage, the rage stage even And you see this 341 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 7: on display, and I predicted it what happened this week 342 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 7: and the hearings with RFK Junior and Tulsi Gavard and 343 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 7: with Cash Fattel today. 344 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 6: And by the way, they're not really laying a hand 345 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 6: on them. 346 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 7: They just they just they love to hear themselves speak 347 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 7: and yell and scream and not let these people give 348 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 7: an explanation. Know what do they care about context or 349 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 7: texture to a comment that they may have made in 350 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 7: the past. But all of that is predictable, it really is. 351 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 7: I was watching, you know, RFK Junior taking more questions today. 352 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 7: You know, they never paid attention to him, saying there's 353 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 7: no such thing as Republican children are Democratic children. There 354 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 7: are kids, sixty six percent of them are damaged. I'm 355 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 7: not here for a position. I don't need this. I 356 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 7: have a great life. I want to do this because 357 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 7: we need to fix it. But you do have people, 358 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 7: you know that are receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars 359 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 7: and sanctimoniously screaming at at Robert F. Kennedy Junior. It 360 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 7: gets a little nauseating. Let's go to the hearings. This 361 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 7: is Robert F. Kennedy Junior, you know, saying that that 362 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 7: you know being attacked by Democrats and then saying there's 363 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 7: no such thing as a Republican child or a Democratic child. 364 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 11: Will you commit not to fire anyone in the health 365 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 11: arena who currently works on protecting Americans from cyber attacks 366 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 11: in their healthcare files? 367 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 4: I will. 368 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 3: I will commit not firing anybody who's doing their job. 369 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 11: Based on your opinion, based upon your opinion, or your 370 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 11: political legenda, or mister Trump's political. 371 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 4: Job based upon my opinion. How are you supportive of this? 372 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: I've had nothing to do with you supportive of these ones? 373 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 4: I'm supportive of vaccines. 374 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 11: Are you supportive all these this clothing which is militantly 375 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 11: anti vaccine? 376 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: I am supportive of vaccines. 377 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 3: I'll comply with all the ethical guides, not the question you. 378 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 8: And I have said. 379 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 4: You're asking me. You're asking me, not the super vaccine companies. 380 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah you are, That's exactly what you're doing Look. 381 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 4: No one should be fooled here. 382 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 3: When I launched my campaign, it was about uniting Americans, 383 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 3: Democrats and Republicans. There's no issue that she's unite it 384 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: more than this chronic health epidemic. There's no such thing 385 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 3: as Republican children or Democratic children. 386 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 4: These are our kids. 387 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 3: Sixty six percent of them are damaged. I'm not here 388 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 3: because I want a position or a job. I have 389 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: a very good life and happy family. This is something 390 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 3: I don't need. I want to do this because we're 391 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 3: going to fix it. 392 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, you cannot just the reality. America 393 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 7: has a health problem. America has an obesity problem. America 394 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 7: has a diabetes problem. America has you know, coronary artery 395 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 7: disease problem, a cancer problem America. You know, if you 396 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 7: look at the numbers, well you know why the men 397 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 7: in Japan lived ten years longer than American men. And 398 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 7: I understand that a lot of people they don't want 399 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 7: to put in a lot of people don't care about 400 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 7: their diet. Fine, Robert F. Kennedy was clear, he's not 401 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 7: taking away your McDonald's, your Kentucky Fried Chicken, and I 402 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 7: eat these things occasionally. 403 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 6: I don't need it. Every day because I. 404 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 7: Want to be a little healthier, and but you know, 405 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 7: we can do better. We can also have a healthcare 406 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 7: system that does better, that does more preventative medicine. We're 407 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 7: not using modern technology. We're not using telemedicine anywhere near 408 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 7: the level we need to. These health care cooperatives, we're 409 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 7: not using them. We're not using medical savings accounts anyway. 410 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 7: That's why we brought back our friend from Wichita, Kansas, 411 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 7: doctor Josh Umber. He's been watching these here hearings, but 412 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 7: he's also not successfully employed concierge care at very affordable rates. 413 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 7: He started it in Wichita, now he's bringing it nationwide. 414 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 7: And he also has helped you know, I think well 415 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 7: over one thousand other medical groups to open up the 416 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 7: concierge care. In his case, there's no deductible, no copay. 417 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 7: At the time it may have gone up, I don't know. 418 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 7: It's fifty dollars an adult, ten dollars per children, unlimited doctors' visits, 419 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 7: twenty four hour availability of a doctor, no network restrictions. 420 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 7: Payments go directly to you. Payments can be used for 421 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 7: any expense, full transparent pricing. You're going to roll any 422 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 7: time you know, and you couple that with maybe a 423 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 7: catastrophic plan and you're on your way. You're gonna have 424 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 7: a lot better care than what Obamacare offered you. Anyway, doctor, 425 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 7: i'mber welcome back, sir, how are you hey? 426 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 10: Thank you very much for having me on, And of 427 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 10: course our hearts go out to the families of the 428 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 10: people that went, you know, perished in this plain accident. 429 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 10: A very terrible situation, very close to home. 430 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 4: But no thank you for. 431 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 7: It's close to home. But my understanding is they flew 432 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 7: out of Wichita, Is I correct? 433 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 10: They sure did, and thankfully no one that we're directly 434 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 10: connected with. But I'm sure as we learn more we'll 435 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 10: find connections between people we know now. 436 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 7: Wichita is full of great people and it's a tight 437 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 7: knit community, as you know. And yes, our hearts go 438 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 7: out to all these families. We've been talking about it, 439 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 7: you know, we just talked about in the last half hour. 440 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 7: It's just terrible and it's sad to see, and we've 441 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 7: we've got to bring safety back to the sky. But 442 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 7: I also want to make America healthy again, and I 443 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 7: don't believe America is doing anywhere near the job that 444 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 7: it's capable of doing. 445 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 10: You know, watch these Senate hearings. I was struck with 446 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 10: this idea that we agree on really a lot more 447 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 10: across these political parties than we disagree on and understandable. 448 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 10: They're very concerned about vaccines, and I'm a strong supporter 449 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 10: of pediatric vaccines and whatnot. But that's just a small 450 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 10: portion of this. 451 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 7: Do some kids have negative reactions? You're the medical doctor, 452 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 7: not me. Two vaccines? Is the mercury in vaccine? Is 453 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 7: there any connection as some claim to autism? 454 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 10: Or no? 455 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 8: No? 456 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 10: I mean one, They've removed the mercury from the vaccines, 457 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 10: and the studies are overwhelmingly supportive of the fact that 458 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 10: these don't cause that autism. 459 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 7: And really, are we over vaccinating people? For example? You 460 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 7: know now they you know years ago you only had 461 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 7: a few vaccines. Now you've got my understanding is well 462 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 7: over one hundred. 463 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 10: Well, I think it's a risk based analysis. Right, you 464 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 10: take the plane and the FA has I think a 465 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 10: record number of years without a civilian mortality, and then 466 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 10: this so but that now we have an incident and 467 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 10: now we want even more protection. So you know, what 468 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 10: number of sick kids are we willing to accept a 469 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 10: very small number, and we don't want infectious disease spreading 470 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 10: through through our country. But again that goes to the 471 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 10: larger example of how do we make our country healthy again? 472 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 10: And both sides, like he said, this is not Republican 473 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 10: or Democratic patients. There's just patients, just people, and a 474 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 10: sick person has one dream, right, And I love that 475 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 10: quote because even though we may disagree on some things, 476 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 10: we can agree that the system needs to be fixed. 477 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 10: And Republican and Democrat centers both brought up problems with 478 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 10: Medicare and Medicaid and they have different ideas of a solution, 479 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 10: but they both want it fixed. They both want healthcare 480 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 10: to be easier, faster, cheaper better. So if we start 481 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 10: looking at it like that, then I think we can 482 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 10: unite around ideas like direct primary care, direct health insurance, 483 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 10: that we deserve a ten x improvement in healthcare quality 484 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 10: and affordability, accessibility, and if we can have a private 485 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 10: space race, I think we can eliminate copase. 486 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 6: All right, quick break, welcome back. 487 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 7: More on the RFK hearings and alternatives to better health 488 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 7: will continue more with doctor Josh Umber, the head of 489 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 7: Atlas Direct. It is a healthcare cooperative now that has 490 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 7: going gone nation wide is started in Wichita, Kansas. More 491 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 7: on that on the other side. Can we continue now 492 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 7: with doctor Josh Umber talking about RFK and his hearings 493 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 7: and talking about alternatives to traditional medicine. Eight hundred nine 494 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 7: foot one. Shawn is a number at List Directors, the 495 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 7: company he is building out nationwide out of Wichita, Kansas. 496 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 7: There's nothing really that the government is running particularly well. 497 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 7: Their best argument would be the Defense Department, but there's 498 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 7: a lot of ways for auden abuse there. 499 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 6: But you know, government involvement. 500 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 7: Medicare is headed for in solvency, as is social security. 501 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 7: Our schools are a disaster. They can't keep law and 502 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 7: order in towns and cities. I don't put a lot 503 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 7: of faith, hope and trust in the government. However, I 504 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 7: do want this audience to know that there are better 505 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 7: options out there and Atlas MD, would you put together 506 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 7: now call that list direct because you're now bringing it nationwide. 507 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 7: Is a whole different way of looking at healthcare. Tell 508 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 7: us what the difference is. 509 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 10: Well, I think it's a smarter way of doing it. 510 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 9: Right. 511 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 10: I'd like to say the government's not. 512 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 9: Bad, they're just bad at it. 513 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 10: They don't have a mechanism in place to necessarily drive 514 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 10: things to better pricing, better efficiency the way the market does. 515 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 10: And we just don't use the market in healthcare. And 516 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 10: I appreciate the argument that healthcare is very important it 517 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 10: should it be market based, to which I would say, yeah, 518 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 10: so important, it has to be market based. 519 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 7: So let's say if I signed up for your plan 520 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 7: that you started in Wichita, which was locally where adults 521 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 7: paid fifty dollars a month access to a doctor twenty 522 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 7: four to seven, most of most medical procedures could be 523 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 7: taken place ten dollars a month for kids, you got 524 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 7: a ninety percent discount on any prescription medicines that you'd 525 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 7: need because you negotiated personally directly with pharmaceutical companies, so 526 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 7: people wouldn't have to go to that local pharmacy. And 527 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 7: what's the difference between what you started in Wichita with 528 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 7: what you're now bringing. 529 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 4: Nationally, Well, that's the best part. 530 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 10: It's nearly the same. Now we're helping thousands of doctors 531 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 10: do their own version of our clinic, so prices might 532 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 10: vary from clinic to clinic, but we've never changed our 533 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 10: prices since we started in twenty ten. What insurance company 534 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 10: can say that, right, But then we are able to 535 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 10: negotiate better than the government, Like, how is that possible? 536 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 10: If Walmart has a four dollar a month list, we 537 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 10: have a four dollars a year list. That's just like 538 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 10: you said, you want your listeners to know there is 539 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 10: a better way. And if we can't fix the price 540 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 10: of health insurance until we fix the price of health care. 541 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 10: But once you do that, once you find a way 542 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 10: to have fifty dollars a month unlimited visits, home visits, 543 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 10: work visits, telemedicine visits, no code pays right, people hate copays, 544 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 10: and so a good business model removed. 545 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 7: What happens if you get the cancer that lasts for 546 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 7: ten years, What happens if you get the bad accident 547 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 7: that keeps in the hospital for a year. What happens 548 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 7: if you know you have the heart attack or a 549 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 7: stroke and you need long term care? 550 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 10: Well you know what that's That's exactly what insurance is for. 551 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 10: Is for the big, scary, unpredictable things. Now, most insurances 552 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 10: won't cover you for a year, but even Medicare doesn't 553 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 10: do that, right, And so you're when you're designing an 554 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 10: insurance plan. It's tricky. You've got to say how much 555 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 10: risk are you willing to take? But Amy Finkelstein MacArthur 556 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 10: Genius Grant Award winning Eutonomous has a great book, We've 557 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 10: Got You Covered, and in there from twenty twenty three numbers, 558 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 10: she mentions less than one percent of the people account 559 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 10: for thirty forty percent of health care spend. But even 560 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 10: they only spend around one hundred thousand a year in healthcare. 561 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 10: So the numbers who spend way more than that are 562 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 10: miniscule relative to everything else. So we deninne a smart 563 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 10: plan that covers everybody for the common stuff and then 564 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 10: tries to add insurance supplement for hey. 565 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 7: I just urge people to open their minds, health care cooperatives, 566 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 7: health savings accounts, catastrophic care for big things. If God 567 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 7: forbids something horrible happens and there are solutions and RFK 568 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 7: Junior raising questions. He's pointing out what we all know, 569 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 7: the system sucks and is broken and our healthcare and 570 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 7: then do everything you can do in your own life 571 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 7: to have better health. Doctor Josh, we appreciate you. You're 572 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 7: thinking out of the box, and I wish the government 573 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 7: would listen to you more. Eight hundred ninety four one 574 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 7: Shawn is our number if you want to be a 575 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 7: part of the program.