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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rutfresh Radio, bringing you the

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Speaker 1: latest reports from the Whitetail Woods, presented by First Light,

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Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.

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Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Casey Smith and Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to rutfresh Radio. I'm your host, Casey Smith. November

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Speaker 2: is coming to a close, but does that mean the

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Speaker 2: rut is over? No way, There's still plenty of ways

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Speaker 2: to capitalize on cold fronts and buck movement this time

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Speaker 2: of year.

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Speaker 3: This is rutfresh. Let's go.

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Speaker 4: What's happening all my woods people. My name is Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 4: I'm your host, one of your hosts, and Casey Smith

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Speaker 4: is here. This is rutfresh Radio is brought to you

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Speaker 4: by first Light Gear. Today we're back on the Nebraska

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Speaker 4: Furniture Mark.

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Speaker 3: Hey how about that?

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Speaker 2: And by the way, uh speaking first like year, it

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Speaker 2: is Black Friday Week. I don't know if y'all know that,

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Speaker 2: but the capitalist society we live in has.

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Speaker 3: Pushed this single day into like a lot of day.

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Speaker 4: Be careful with how you say that, because my wife

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Speaker 4: just walked in and if you say Black Friday week.

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Speaker 3: That means you're a week from Black Friday.

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Speaker 2: She thinks that it'll be Black Friday in a week,

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Speaker 2: you knows.

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Speaker 3: Monday week or whatever. Oh yeah, it's been Monday week.

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Speaker 3: You know, I actually understand that. But I understand it.

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Speaker 2: I just like being difficult because I got in me

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Speaker 2: as as does your wife.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Como, oh, como. Yeah, that's where it comes from. She

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Speaker 2: got that bird creek. But this is rough Fresh Radio.

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Speaker 2: We ain't gonna talk about too much that stuff, but

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Speaker 2: go check out the meat eater website, first lat website,

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Speaker 2: all that stuff for some great Black Friday deals. Follow

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Speaker 2: us on social she can see some more detail about

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Speaker 2: that stuff. You know, we're going to try to do

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Speaker 2: this week is be real funny and not talk about

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Speaker 2: sales too much and hopefully that y'all like that.

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Speaker 4: But hey, you know, here's the thing. Black Friday is

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Speaker 4: a good chance to get things you need. That's guarantee you.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is me telling you what I got.

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Speaker 4: We're sitting in a house that we bought a I

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Speaker 4: built this house a couple of years ago, and we

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Speaker 4: bought our appliances on Black Friday and had and just

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Speaker 4: left them in storage for months. We didn't move until

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Speaker 4: May or whatever.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: So that was my wife. She's also very smart, even

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Speaker 4: though she says Monday Week and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: She that was her idea.

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Speaker 4: But my point is, if you think you can dish

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Speaker 4: out a little money and you may not use this

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Speaker 4: stuff until next year, it's still going to be good gear.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's or worth.

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Speaker 2: You know, some of your most expensive pieces are gonna

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Speaker 2: be the late season pieces because they have the most

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Speaker 2: material and you can buy them right now, still use

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Speaker 2: them in late season, and they're gonna be a lot more,

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Speaker 2: lot less expensive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that way, So go check out all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: I'm all about discounts, man, I guarante gum to you.

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Speaker 4: I can't be I mean, that's if inflation is too

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Speaker 2: You know, I've been heck, got my eye on a

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Speaker 2: few pupews and I'm waiting until this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna pull the trigger. No, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's you know, FBI's listening right now, so I can't

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: There is a cold front sweeping the nation, sweeping, maybe

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Speaker 2: not the nation. You know, col fronts are weird. I

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Speaker 2: really don't understand how it works for the Northeast. Thankfully,

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Speaker 2: we do. Got a report from Pennsylvania this week on here.

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Speaker 2: I don't cold fronts. I don't know how they hit

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. So if you've got some information on that,

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Speaker 4: However, generally, for what the plains the Midwest Texas, we

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Speaker 3: Mountain cold fronts. Ie, those are the best.

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Speaker 4: How far they carry that? And do they stop at

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean, it just depends on

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Speaker 4: And what's going on in the Gulf, which we could

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Speaker 3: Still you know, have no better clue what's going on.

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Speaker 2: There's a that will help a lot of the hunting,

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Speaker 2: because you know, we had that huge coal front moved

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Speaker 3: They dude, I've been working on that video today. That's

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Speaker 3: pretty sick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna come out seeing I'm trying to get

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Speaker 4: out before Thanksgiving before yeah, oh hot dog. Plan is

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Speaker 4: to have it out when this podcast releases.

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Speaker 3: Hot Dog.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, we're gonna link to the Element channel below

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Speaker 2: you can go watch me kill my biggest South Dakota

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Speaker 2: buck by far, like one of my biggest bucks. I

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Speaker 3: He's a toad.

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Speaker 2: They just doing I don't even know if you'd call

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Speaker 2: spot and run. But anyways, it's cool. You all enjoy

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Speaker 2: the video, I think. But since then, the weather's not

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Speaker 2: being very conducive to white tails. It's been pretty tough.

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Speaker 2: The rut has I don't think it's as slow as

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Speaker 2: We've had some really good reports, especially last week. I

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Speaker 2: But it's still been pretty warm. It's not been like

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Speaker 2: to get that this week of Thanksgiving. So if you

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Speaker 2: to be pretty encouraging, like it's it's not a lot

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Speaker 2: of fun to be a Debbie Downer to be down

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Speaker 2: the dumps too much, right, Tyler.

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Speaker 4: No, been there, Yeah, but I'm fixing to be because

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be doing all these Thanksgivings, like sitting there

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Speaker 2: A report from Oklahoma this week, which isn't a very

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a good report. It's a good report.

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Speaker 2: The the how would you say that action in Oklahoma

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Speaker 3: Got to eighty one day. It was it was rough.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, You're about to be in Oklahoma during a cold front, yeah,

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Speaker 2: doing Thanksgiving and there's gonna be big Bucks splashing through

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Speaker 4: Don't you think for a second, I'm not taking my

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Speaker 3: I didn't think about it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think my wife's gonna let it

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Speaker 2: She's like driving my life, she won't know the morning

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, she's a lot like your life in

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Speaker 3: that matter for sure. So you can get the journey.

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Speaker 3: Is gonna be awake. She's tiny. You can carry her

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Speaker 3: morning person. There you go, thanks, dip. Yeah you're I

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Speaker 3: mean she actually is not tiny anymore. Yeah, I've realized.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, dick, She's gonna be solid. My anniversary is

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Speaker 3: And it was cold the day you got married. It

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Speaker 2: And so like we went to Southeast Oklahoma on her

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Speaker 3: Just bamby, just chasing baby's dad trying to find a

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Speaker 2: But uh yeah, So all that to say is to

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Speaker 4: Is the rut shifting or used to your coincidence here?

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Speaker 2: If you were to hear I think that we don't

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Speaker 2: radio and say the second and third week in November

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Speaker 2: even though we all know from like you know, Bill

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Speaker 2: Winkie kills a lot of big Dear Marjorie kills a

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Speaker 2: the time right for peak chasing. So what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Exactly? Are we missing out on? Like?

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Speaker 2: Do we do not understand that when we perceive rut movement,

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Speaker 2: push movement, the deer find their hot dose so fast

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Speaker 4: I also wonder there's a bunch of big buck killers

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Speaker 4: they usually have a property that a big buck exists

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Speaker 4: And I wonder if these guys like that, like the rut,

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Speaker 4: like it because it gets deer moving, But it is

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Speaker 4: also those earlier dates also are before a the fighting

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Speaker 2: But anyways, there's gonna be some good reviews for US

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Speaker 7: think we're just a couple of days away from that sure,

445
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,520
Speaker 7: because they weren't really.

446
00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,080
Speaker 5: Responding to rattles, you know what I mean.

447
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 7: And normally when a buck is like heavy, when they're

448
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 7: when they're heavy, like even when they're on lockdown and

449
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,240
Speaker 7: you start rattling, they'll get up and go, you know,

450
00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 7: looking around to make sure there's no bucks around, you know,

451
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,840
Speaker 7: to just chase them off. But these bucks weren't even

452
00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,679
Speaker 7: really responding to the rattle yet, so they were just

453
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,399
Speaker 7: I think they were still in that like looking for

454
00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 7: a hot dough mode, you know, just you know, still

455
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 7: like playing. They're playing, keeping their wind right, not really

456
00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 7: making any big mistakes, because that was the thing. We

457
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,239
Speaker 7: couldn't get a buck to make a mistake, you know,

458
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 7: he was still going to get his wind right right.

459
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 7: But I think I think that this week is the

460
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 7: week to do it. I think if you're gonna go

461
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 7: hunt these bucks and do like all days, since this

462
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 7: is the time.

463
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,360
Speaker 4: Yes, sir man, that's what I'm talking about. That's uh,

464
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 4: I feel the same way. We've talked to a lot

465
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 4: of people from across the country and uh, myself, I've

466
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,399
Speaker 4: been in three states last week, and it seems like

467
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 4: that with kind of like the hot weather the first

468
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 4: couple of weeks in November, it's been it's been just

469
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 4: kind of like just real even Keel and I feel

470
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 4: like you get a little weather here pretty soon around

471
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 4: this Thanksgiving holiday and things are gonna really bustle you.

472
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 4: So with that in mind, in the next week, if

473
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 4: you had to guess, you know, a number one to

474
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 4: ten for buck movement in Pennsylvania, what would you think

475
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 4: it's gonna be?

476
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 7: Oh man, I'm probably I'm saying like a seven or

477
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 7: an eight that gonna be.

478
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna I think, I really do.

479
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 7: And I think because what happens is they got this

480
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 7: that little rifle season that kicks off, so they get

481
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 7: a little bit spooky. But once that's over, you know,

482
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 7: they get like a two three day period to settle down,

483
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 7: they're gonna be They're gonna.

484
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 3: Be on it.

485
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 5: It's gonna be good.

486
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 7: I So catch an acorn patch, sit on a saddle,

487
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,959
Speaker 7: find it, find a dope, like just do you do

488
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 7: your research and look at an area where you think

489
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 7: those might be bad and get down win from that,

490
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,679
Speaker 7: and you'll catch them. You'll catch some bucks looking for

491
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 7: for their next dough because I think they've bred.

492
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 5: I think they've bred their first dough now and now

493
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 5: it's there, they're gonna be ready, yeah, for another They're

494
00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,919
Speaker 5: gonna be ready like they're gonna be looking for it.

495
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 5: That's right, man, where you're gonna cut him screwing up?

496
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 5: You know?

497
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that's what that's what we need a lot

498
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,719
Speaker 4: of times. Man, we're not good enough to get them

499
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 4: when they're on their game. We got to get them

500
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 4: when they're off the game sometimes. But man, thank you

501
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 4: for the report, Derek. I hope you have more success

502
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 4: this year.

503
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 3: Man.

504
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 4: It looks like you've already done that a little bit.

505
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 4: And uh, I'm real happy for you, man. I hope

506
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 4: that it keeps going well for you. Thanks for hopping

507
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 4: on the phone with us.

508
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me guys.

509
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 4: Right now, I've got Dylan Dawson from on X. He's

510
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 4: just straight up a killer man. I mean he will

511
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 4: shoot at elk side unseen antlers and it'll end up

512
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 4: being at three fifty you know what I mean, So

513
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 4: they're bigger.

514
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 3: What's going on, dude?

515
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, thanks thanks for having me on.

516
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, the elk sight unseen this year being a three

517
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 9: fifty is that was a good kickoff to the year.

518
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 9: So sometimes you just got to take those when when

519
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 9: they're handed.

520
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 4: To Yeah, so you've been out in Montana hunting some

521
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 4: deer and you ended up with one of the mule

522
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 4: deer types, right.

523
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 9: Yep, I shot one of the meal deer types this year,

524
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 9: so Montana. You know, for anybody listening who's not familiar,

525
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 9: you basically get an a tag that allows you to

526
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 9: hunt white tail or meal deer. So depending on what

527
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 9: the state you're in. Honestly, pretty much most of the

528
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 9: state that I've hunted, man.

529
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 8: It's like.

530
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 9: Fifty to fifty some areas, you know, seventy thirty and

531
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 9: vice versa.

532
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 8: But there's pretty much white tail and meal deer what

533
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 8: seems like everywhere.

534
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 5: You know.

535
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 8: I'm from eastern Montana.

536
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 9: I currently live in western Montana and so I travel

537
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 9: you know, pretty much from Idaho to North Dakota every year,

538
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 9: whether I'm hunting elk, deer or whatever. So it's, uh,

539
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 9: it is pretty cool because you're not really stuck to

540
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 9: one species or the other.

541
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 8: Sure, and some years, like you know.

542
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 9: Whitetail are doing better their populations and some of your

543
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 9: meal deer are doing better.

544
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 8: And it seems like I'm kind of fifty to fifty.

545
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 9: Ever since I've been twelve and able to hunt here

546
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 9: in Montana, seems like I probably shot I've probably shot

547
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 9: a few more meal deer than white tail.

548
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 8: But it's pretty pretty down the middle.

549
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, So as far as that herd goes this year,

550
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 4: does it Does it look good out there? Or are

551
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 4: you seeing a bunch of deer moving around right now?

552
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

553
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 9: This past week I've been hunting pretty hard. I've got

554
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 9: one more week to go. A lot of tags are filled.

555
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 9: Actually we build two tags. Yesterday my wife shot a

556
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 9: really nice buck. I was with my cousin when he

557
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 9: shot a really really heavy white tail, just a really

558
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 9: old old white tail, really big basis just having gnarly,

559
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 9: gnarly buck.

560
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 8: But yeah, man, it's it's been good I've seen a

561
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 8: lot of deer chasing.

562
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 9: Both meal deer and white tail, but particularly this past week.

563
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,959
Speaker 9: Like white tail, I've seen a lot of bucks like

564
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 9: singling out does and literally running them for like a mile.

565
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 8: We we came over the hill.

566
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 9: We were driving to a new spot a few days ago,

567
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 9: and came over the hill and I was like, oh, man,

568
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 9: there's a deer, you know, scooting across the field. And

569
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 9: at first I kind of thought she was running from us,

570
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 9: and I threw up the binos, and twenty yards behind

571
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 9: her was a pretty nice buck, like, you know, mid

572
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 9: one thirties, not a shooter, but just a respectable deer

573
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 9: that you want to look at. And I mean quickly

574
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 9: I realized they were not running from us, that that

575
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 9: buck had that dough on full tilt across the stubble

576
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 9: field and they got to the end of it.

577
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 8: He caught up to her and turned her.

578
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 9: The other way, you know, one of those deals where

579
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 9: they're acting like a quarter horse is like figuring out

580
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 9: which way they're going to go. And then he ran

581
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 9: her basically half a mile half a section back the

582
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 9: other way. So I've seen a lot of bucks chasing,

583
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 9: like single dose and like a little pocketed doze three

584
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 9: or four doors over there, but he's interested in obviously

585
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 9: that one that's hot, and I think there's some.

586
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 8: Hot dos right now.

587
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: So you're doing a lot of gun hunting out there,

588
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 2: and right now it is you know, gun seasons are

589
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 2: opening up or are open across the country. If you're

590
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: trying to capitalize on that kind of buck movement where

591
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 2: they're pushing dose and and running like crazy, what's your

592
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: setup going to be?

593
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: Like?

594
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 9: So a lot of times what I prefer is to

595
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 9: get up high if the country allows, and sit and

596
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 9: kind of just let things happen.

597
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 8: So four or five days ago, my dad and I hiked.

598
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 9: Up to this high point and it's all kind of

599
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 9: egg land where we were, So there's a lot of

600
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 9: white tail country.

601
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 8: There's koolies, so it's white tail and melier country.

602
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 9: Again, it's kind of one of those spots fifty to

603
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 9: fifty you don't know what species you're going to run into,

604
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 9: and uh, it's just really good habitat for both. But

605
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 9: we hiked up to this this knob and really this

606
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 9: knob is only probably you know, fifty vertical feet above

607
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 9: anything else around us, right, but it gives us at

608
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 9: least an opportunity to glass three sixty and kind of

609
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 9: just let the deer move to us. Sitting on that now,

610
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 9: we had a mature meldier and a mature white tail

611
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 9: buck that were just straight cruising.

612
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 8: They weren't chasing does they weren't with those. I spotted

613
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 8: both those.

614
00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 9: Deer from man shoot almost mild to maybe the meal

615
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 9: there was probably a mile and a half away, and

616
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 9: both of them ran. They didn't trot, they weren't walking crews,

617
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 9: and they ran from where I spotted them to within seventy.

618
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 8: Five yards of us.

619
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 3: Oh that's cool.

620
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 9: It's actually pretty funny because both of them, this was

621
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 9: like an hour and a half apart from each other,

622
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 9: and they took almost the exact same path by us.

623
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 9: And they're just crazy looking for those So I really

624
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 9: like to get up high and sit because had we

625
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 9: have been walking around and you know, moving a little

626
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 9: bit more, those deer would have ran within fifty to

627
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 9: seventy five yards of us. But we were able to

628
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 9: let them do their thing instead up high watching them

629
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 9: for a long ways coming.

630
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 8: We knew, we knew they were both really mature deer.

631
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 9: But I was able to watch me the spotting scope

632
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 9: run from that far away to again under one hundred

633
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 9: yards seventy five yards and know that, you know, we

634
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 9: weren't going to shoot either one of those bucks. But

635
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 9: you know, if you're walking koolies and whatever, it's just

636
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 9: it's it's doable. It's you know, you might shoot a

637
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 9: really nice deer like that, but you're also trying to

638
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 9: judge them as their you know, their tails down and

639
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 9: running in the bottom.

640
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 8: Of the coolie at that point.

641
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,719
Speaker 9: So sure, I like to get up high and use

642
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 9: the glass, and especially this time of year when they're

643
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 9: moving around searching for dose.

644
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, and you're a killer man, So this is

645
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 4: this is good information, man. And you know, Casey and

646
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 4: I have probably known you since twenty seventeen or so. Man,

647
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: we appreciate friendship and everything like that, and and just

648
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: the supportive on X over the years. Man, We really

649
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 4: has meant a lot to us. Thanks for hopping on

650
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 4: the phone with us. Before you go, though, we got

651
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 4: to have a We've got to have a rating here.

652
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: So on a scale of one to ten, what does

653
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 4: the buck movement look like in the next week in

654
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 4: your opinion.

655
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 9: Yeah, based on what I've seen this past week, and

656
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 9: even just like yesterday, it seems like it's only gotten better.

657
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 9: We here in Montana, we had a cold snap like

658
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 9: probably three to four weeks ago where it got really

659
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 9: really cold, like zero or below, had.

660
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 8: Quite a bit of snow.

661
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 9: It's warmer now, so I was kind of nervous that

662
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 9: it was gonna kind of shut off the rut. But man,

663
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 9: the last couple days what I've seen, that is not

664
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 9: the case. I would say out of one to ten,

665
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 9: seven point.

666
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 4: Eight, very specific, that's like my great average man.

667
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: Actually college. Probably I was a little bit smarter in

668
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: high school.

669
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 2: We appreciate the info, man, the and the good rating.

670
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: It gives us a lot of optimism. Thanks dude.

671
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I appreciate you guys. Thank you.

672
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: This is Byron Horton with white Tail Experience, and he

673
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: has been chasing him all over in Ohio.

674
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 10: What's up, dude, Dude, I just got through my big

675
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 10: push and uh we're we're regrouping today.

676
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good man.

677
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: I'm glad that you're able to kind of woo saw

678
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: and bring it all back in. That's it's a necessary

679
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: thing sometimes after a big rut push. Do you feel

680
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: tired do you feel like that you achieved something? Do

681
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: you feel like you went and did the thing, or

682
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: do you still feel like there's things that are undone.

683
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 10: So I feel like I saw the whole rut. I

684
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 10: saw casing, the cruising, the close encounters, missed my shot opportunity.

685
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 10: I saw it all. So I'm at peace with it.

686
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 10: But I'm not gonna lie. Man, I really want to

687
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 10: kill something.

688
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: I think you will. I know you did.

689
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 5: You're a killer.

690
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: So this past week, you know, you said you spent

691
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: a lot of time out there.

692
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 3: What was kind of the major emphasis?

693
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: You know, that's kind of like, I guess what most

694
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: people consider like the second ish week of the rut,

695
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: you know, and things are kind of changing.

696
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: What were the deer doing?

697
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, so I actually think Ohio is a touch behind.

698
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 10: I'll call it the core Midwest. Like I feel like

699
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 10: last week's our peak. Traditionally, I have always taken we'll

700
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 10: call it, like the seventh through the fifteenth as better

701
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 10: than the first through the seventh. Just as far as

702
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 10: seeing do your seeing Bucks personal encounters, generally the weather

703
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 10: is a little better for the most part. But yeah,

704
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 10: I literally last week saw it all. You know, Bucks

705
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 10: dogging does four pointers running loose everywhere? It was a

706
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 10: great time.

707
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: So were you hunting you know, travel corridors, pinch points,

708
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 4: or where you spending more time like near food sources

709
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: of some sort.

710
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 10: So I would say I am much more of a

711
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 10: let's let's hunt the doze in the betting areas with

712
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 10: maybe like an extra terrain type feature. I generally hunt

713
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 10: the big woods, you know, more and more steeper terrain.

714
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 10: So like I like what I call compounding features, maybe

715
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 10: like a hog back meets the dough betting type habitat

716
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 10: and generally too I was I had scouted some doughs

717
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 10: of late October, so I kind of knew where my

718
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 10: dough groups were and that was the plan, and that's

719
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 10: what I ran. I would hunt scrapes too. I guess

720
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 10: that was my second most popular ambush point cloud like.

721
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: That, man, how do you find those doughs? You said

722
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: you're scouting? Does how you finding them?

723
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

724
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 10: A lot of times so trail cams late October. I

725
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 10: spent four days literally just walk in and yes, how

726
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 10: I'd bump some doz. Yes, I would pull some cards

727
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 10: and be like, oh there's doze in here. On regular basis,

728
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 10: deer poop, just beating down tracks more just like stuff

729
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 10: telling me they're in here a lot more frequent. And

730
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 10: obviously when you're boots to ground, you're seeing the habitat

731
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 10: of this looks like dough betting, Like I'm not going

732
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 10: to make up some crazy term, this is where the

733
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 10: do's bed.

734
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're looking at thickets and stuff that you

735
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: see and you're like, okay, they're in there.

736
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, thickets, maybe some grasses, maybe points where the sun

737
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 10: hits the first thing in the day kind of stuff that.

738
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

739
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, that and deer poop. Honestly, collections of deer poop,

740
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 10: collections of beds, that kind of thing.

741
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 3: So you spent some time hunting scrapes. How effective was that?

742
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 10: Ooh? So I had multiple hunts where I had doze

743
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 10: come in bebop the scrape even at like eleven noon,

744
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 10: and one time it was like gray lightish, and I'm like, okay,

745
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 10: I know what should happen the next twelve twenty four hours,

746
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 10: and I'd see some two and a half year olds.

747
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 10: I just didn't have a shooter kind of follow that

748
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 10: dough or read the script my trail cams told me.

749
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 10: I hunted scrapes on wrong days if you will.

750
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: I did the same thing last week. Man, it just

751
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: hurts down deep inside.

752
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.

753
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 10: One of my best encounters was on a scrape that

754
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 10: was the sixth sense buck where he came over this

755
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 10: like bluffy point and he's looking over this bottom for

756
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 10: what felt like forever, and yep, he just said, I'm

757
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 10: not going to go down to that scrape today and

758
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 10: he's fifty yards from it.

759
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 4: So in the next week or so, would you still

760
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: focus on some of the things were we were focused

761
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: on this week, so like dough betting and maybe scrapes,

762
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 4: or would you take what you learned this past week

763
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 4: and apply it to next week and change things up.

764
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 10: The final week of November, I'm going to go a

765
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 10: little bit more heavy terrain pinch type hunts, where like

766
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 10: I just want to collect giglines of movement, and then

767
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 10: I would still hunt scrapes. I get a lot of

768
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 10: pictures of you know, bucks recirculating their little circuit and

769
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 10: they got to figure out where the doose are that

770
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 10: are still high or about the pop and so I

771
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 10: was still hunting scrapes, but maybe a little bit more

772
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 10: emphasis on the best hogbacks point of the whole Mountain.

773
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good stuff, man.

774
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: So if you had rate the upcoming week on a

775
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: scale of one to ten on buck movie, what would

776
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: you call it.

777
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 10: I'm still gonna go seven seven point five. We got

778
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 10: one warm day, but I'm still pretty high for the scale.

779
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: We're getting some decimals this week. We got that's cool.

780
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and dude, seven seven point five is a good number, man.

781
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: So it's still a good time to be in the

782
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: woods in Ohio. Byron, We appreciate the report.

783
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 10: Man, absolutely both.

784
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: This is Eric Gentry.

785
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 4: He's also known as Oklahoma Gentry because he's been out

786
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 4: in Oklahoma doing some hunting.

787
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: Eric. What are you doing man, Man?

788
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 6: Just driving up to Illinois to see some family for Thanksgiving?

789
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: Eric with the element Eric? Ye? Sweet?

790
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: So Eric's Eric's going to Illinois. He might have Illinois

791
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 4: report for us next week, but he's got Oklahoma one

792
00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 4: this week. After eating Thanksgiving noodles this case. So apparently

793
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving noodles are a thing, but we don't know what

794
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 4: they are. Eric does, and I think some of the

795
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 4: more heart of the Midwestern people might understand it, but yeah,

796
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 4: some will. Yeah, there's something about it with cream and

797
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 4: chicken on top. That's what I think it is.

798
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: No, so enough of the culinary experience here at the Midwest. Eric,

799
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: you hunted kind of the west, just you know, west

800
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: of the Midwest.

801
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: I guess you'd say in Oklahoma this past week.

802
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: I might have seen you there, but we wanted to

803
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 2: get your take because you actually had some action.

804
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: Did you do you feel like you had a good hunt? Man?

805
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 5: It was I don't know. It was tough.

806
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 6: The first time ever got a tag there and it

807
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 6: was some of the toughest hunting I've done. There's just

808
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 6: not a lot of public land. Uh, there's a big

809
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 6: deer being killed on private but I mean there's a

810
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 6: lot of hunters around, and I don't know if there

811
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 6: was the warm weather and a combination of a lockdown,

812
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 6: but it was tough.

813
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: I had to lock down.

814
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 5: Well.

815
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 6: One morning I had a pretty good buck encounter, but

816
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 6: he was lockdown with the dough and he would not

817
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 6: leave that dough side anything she was doing, he was doing.

818
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: Did you try to think sixty nine or what? No.

819
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 6: I tried the old snort weez but that that didn't work. Yeah,

820
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 6: it got her attention and she kind of stared around

821
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 6: for at least an hour and.

822
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: How are you making your moves up?

823
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: There? Was it off of trail camera data or like

824
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: the stuff you were seeing or what was going on?

825
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, we were watching the trail cameras and kind of

826
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 6: deciding what we want to do. We were hunting bed

827
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 6: to feed patterns because we cameras just weren't giving us

828
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 6: a lot of data and a lot of the pictures

829
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 6: were at night, so it was really tough.

830
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, case you hunted a near a scrape though at

831
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: one point, right, how'd that pan out?

832
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: Well, it was like a thing where I feel like

833
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: the lockdown was going on, like Eric says, and the

834
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 2: like bucks will come off dose and they'll move through,

835
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: maybe hit a scrape or two. And uh, the one

836
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: day we weren't on the scrape, a buck came through

837
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: that I would have shot, and then after that it

838
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: was just nothing.

839
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 4: So would y'all both agree pretty unpredictable movement? Yeah, man, absolute, Like,

840
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 4: if you think about it, this time of year can

841
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 4: be awesome. It's a feast or famine deal. Right, it's

842
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: Eric either eating a bunch of pizza because they're killing.

843
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 10: Deer or.

844
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly getting ready for Thanksgiving, you know, but it's

845
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 4: it is It's like you you might sit there and

846
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 4: not see anything because you got a bunch of duck

847
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: bucks that are locked down in an area, and then

848
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, if you're sitting at the right

849
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 4: scrape or you're sitting in the right you know, uh,

850
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 4: you know. Or if a deer wants to act like

851
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: he wants to be on public land for a little

852
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 4: bit instead of private land like, then it could be

853
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 4: one of the.

854
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: Best days of your life. What do you think the

855
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: limiting factor was this past week, Eric Man, I don't know.

856
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 5: I don't know.

857
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 6: It's tough to say. Really, I couldn't tell you. It

858
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 6: was my first time hunting Oklahoma.

859
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 3: So you think that really cooler temperatures would help.

860
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. I think.

861
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 6: I think they're gonna come out of this lockdown phase

862
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 6: and potentially hit scrapes again, and so you might be

863
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 6: able to see in a little bit better movement here

864
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 6: which week or so.

865
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: I don't look at Elon's weather app like you.

866
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 2: Do, but I do have a fairly reliable one.

867
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 8: Tyler's on it now, Oh is he?

868
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: Oh it's pretty. It's just mainly the graphics are cool teslas.

869
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: So I have been looking.

870
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: I just you know, I'm old school, right, kind of

871
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: boomer ish, you know, it's boomer center state right. Definitely

872
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: look at the weather Channel app and it's all it

873
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: always does me, right, you know. And it seems as

874
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: if we have a cold front rolling through parts of

875
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: the central US, including Oklahoma. What you think that's gonna

876
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: change what you could see in daytime?

877
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think so.

878
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 6: I think, Like I said, I think they're gonna once

879
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 6: the cooler tens hit, he might hit the scrapes again

880
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 6: and start looking for another dough.

881
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 4: Cool so on a scale of one to ten, and

882
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 4: then next week.

883
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 6: I'd hate to give that typical Midwest answer.

884
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 3: You know, they'll do it. They'll be good, could be bad.

885
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 6: But I'd honestly probably give it a six.

886
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 5: He did it.

887
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 3: He did it. He's in the Midwest. That's why I

888
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 3: did it, dude.

889
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 8: That's right.

890
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: I'm still here in Texas to be a seven or

891
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: eight probably.

892
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 6: I'm telling you right now, though here in Illinois, like

893
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 6: it is going crazy. As soon as I cross the Mississippi,

894
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 6: there's deer in the fields at noon twelve thirty and

895
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 6: as I'm sitting here, I'm on a busy road, right

896
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 6: now and like there's at least twenty cars on this road.

897
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 6: Give you an idea of how busy it is. And

898
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 6: there's a small patch of woods across from me. And

899
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 6: like literally five seconds ago, a doe is running down the.

900
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 5: Side of the road.

901
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: Ooh man, but head to leave Texas. That's right, you know, Well, doe.

902
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: Hope you have a marry Thanksgiving. If that's what people say,

903
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. Very thankful Thanksgiving or thankful to have

904
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: you in our lives. And thank you for the report.

905
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 5: Sir, appreciate it.

906
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: Thanks guys closed it out with the Midwest six from

907
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: Eric Gentry.

908
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: How about that?

909
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: But including that some pretty positive reports from around the

910
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: country for deer movement. Man, I think that people are

911
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 2: catching on like this is a good time of year

912
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: to kill a big deer. You say that all the time.

913
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving week is like the time.

914
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 3: Huh, that's what I mean.

915
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: I've had some really good hunts around that time of year,

916
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 4: and I remember I had a long hunt one time.

917
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 4: I may have talked about this last week, but you know,

918
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 4: we went from the Thanksgiving time period late Thanksgiving into December.

919
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 4: When I shot a deer early December. That was falling

920
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 4: a big mature dough. So, I mean, it's just one

921
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: of those things, men, where I just don't I think

922
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 4: people give up hope really easy a lot of times

923
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: when you know there's still a lot of good hunting

924
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 4: to be had out there right now, especially with cold

925
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 4: weather coming in.

926
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: Guarantee you, man, I don't want to minimize this part

927
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 2: of this time of year.

928
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 3: It's a great time to reflect. It's a great time

929
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: to be thankful.

930
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: It's a good time to focus on your family and

931
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: your faith and to consider all the blessings you have

932
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: in life, right, because that's what this is about. That

933
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: being said, it is a good time of year to

934
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: get some good stuff on a good deal. Black Friday's

935
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: around the corner by your family that you love, some

936
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 2: Christmas gifts. Go over to the media website and get

937
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: all the kind of stuff that you want to from

938
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: that kind of deal. If you want to get a

939
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: little bit more hunting encouragement, there is a new video

940
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 2: on the Element channel. We'll link to the channel below.

941
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: You can go watch me chase a buck around on

942
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: the ground for dude. Literally, I was on this buck

943
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: for the whole day and then half of another day

944
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 2: like inside of this year, it was wild.

945
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 4: That's all I'm gonna tell y'all. Yeah, So there's lots

946
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: of stuff though coming out. We've been putting trying to

947
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: crank out some video. We've got some Texas public Land stuff.

948
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: We've got you know, Nebraska stuff from earlier this year.

949
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 4: We've been just kind of trying to crank that stuff

950
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 4: as much as possible. In between case. You actually have

951
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 4: an article about saddle hunting, doesn't you.

952
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: I do.

953
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: There's an article on the media website about should you

954
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: hunt from a saddle?

955
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 3: Go check that out.

956
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: There's a pretty funny social media post that Tyler and

957
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: I put out there because humor is what makes this

958
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: world go around right now, man, because there's a lot

959
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: of depressing things.

960
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 3: We like to be funny.

961
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 6: Sure.

962
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: But and then there's a video that goes along with

963
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: that about shooting from a saddle and why you should

964
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: maybe consider it.

965
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 3: Go check that out if you haven't.

966
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 4: Yep, for sure, guys, thanks for listening. This has been

967
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: ret fresh, Keep it fresh.