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Speaker 1: Long story short. My fiance thirty five male, and I

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Speaker 1: with his family, so we were excited to tell them

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Speaker 1: They were all thrilled, with the notable exception of his

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Speaker 1: younger sister twenty nine female. By the way, this comes

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Speaker 1: from usso unexpected on the r slash okay storytime subreddit.

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Speaker 1: So she and I have always been pretty close, so

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Speaker 1: I was surprised to see her soaking around and looking

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Speaker 1: and I chalked it up to a bit of jealousy

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Speaker 1: based on interactions he's had with her before, and tried

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Speaker 1: out with our family. In February. I asked her and

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Speaker 1: my fiance's brother's wife to be too of my bridesmaids.

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Speaker 1: The latter was over the moon, while his sister said

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Speaker 1: oh cool and didn't really show any signs of happiness. Again,

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Speaker 1: tried to ignore, but was still starting to sting a bit.

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Speaker 1: What up her? But why is she being on moody?

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Speaker 1: Not a wedding ring, but she wishes. Then we get

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Speaker 1: into April, we moved into a new house and had

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Speaker 1: two weeks after our wedding. What and they were on

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's crazy. We were floored because that's

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Speaker 1: generally pretty close in timing for an immediate family wedding.

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Speaker 1: They weren't engaged yet, and the big kicker, we are

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Speaker 1: taking a three week honeymoon, so we wouldn't be able

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Speaker 2: Girl, what's the on and off boyfriend saying in all this,

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Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I'll be there summer, but I will

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Speaker 1: So we got to get this over quick. We were

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Speaker 1: She was hurt that we wouldn't be going to her wedding,

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. We ended up having a candid conversation about

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Speaker 1: instead of getting engaged at the beginning of the December,

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Speaker 1: Like my fiance originally planned. Why did that matter? Why?

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Speaker 1: Be on the honeymoon. Yeah, Like, she's literally not gonna

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Speaker 1: Sister then left without saying goodbye, and then the following morning,

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Speaker 2: If you don't put a stop to it and like

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Speaker 1: She's going to keep doing it. He's very hurt by

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Speaker 1: always tearing the family apart. We know where the drama

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Speaker 2: I mean, you could invite her to the wedding, but definitely,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I should be her bridesmaid because I

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Speaker 1: I'm so done with her acting like a victim or

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Speaker 1: But that is the end of that story, So we'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time. My brother in law called our

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Speaker 1: How can it steal attention If it's ugly, it's a

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Speaker 1: You can refer to me as Mina if you want sure.

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Speaker 1: My brother in law, let's call him Jake, proposed to

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Speaker 1: saying how Emma was upset because we tried to upstage

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Speaker 1: What insane selfish.

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Speaker 2: We were both confused by this, but I thought maybe

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Speaker 2: I just let it go. But oh, if if I

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Speaker 2: Whenever I was asked how I felt or baby names,

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Speaker 2: You know, Emma and Jake suck, but you know I

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know what to do, but I was mad.

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Speaker 2: At this point, I'm done and fed up with this crap,

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Speaker 1: Just tap her profile there's a little bit left. But

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Speaker 1: that's okay. Your wedding, like it's still about you. You

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Speaker 1: stop from just because your wedding is happening. Like your

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Speaker 1: that's cool too. There's a little bit left, alright, let's

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Speaker 1: see it. Because one of Emma's bridesmaids got engaged and

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Speaker 1: It was a crap show of a wedding, and many

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Speaker 2: A lot of people are still mad at them for this,

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Speaker 2: we should have acted like adults.

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Speaker 1: That's funny.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you should take your own advice and stuck around

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Speaker 2: instead of causing a scene. I don't think they started

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Speaker 2: the scene though, whatever. I guess we'll see heru on

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Speaker 2: the holidays. But for right now, I have my son

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Speaker 2: But I thought you guys might want to hear this

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Speaker 2: very interesting story.

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Speaker 1: And that is the end of that.

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Speaker 2: Man oh man, what a tale, man oh man. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just like maybe low con act with these people. They

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say something I'm forgetting Is it about

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Speaker 1: they're really just thinking like all press is good press,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's bad attention. Yeah, I'm going

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Speaker 1: no one likes you anymore. Everyone freaking hates you. No

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Speaker 1: That is the end of that story. So we'll see

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Speaker 1: you next time. My boyfriend's mother is jealous of our relationship.

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Speaker 1: I want to go low contact. Just do it, do it.

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Speaker 1: I twenty six female, have been dating my boyfriend Brad

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Speaker 1: The real secret is the where, what, how? What of

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Speaker 2: By the way, way, this comes from HGB sixty eighty

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Speaker 2: to see how it all pans out. Brad's family and

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Speaker 2: of four girls. We're all very close knit. My parents

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Speaker 2: and include Brad in group chats about almost all family

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Speaker 2: As we have been dating, his family is currently scattered

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Speaker 2: at all. Being different is okay, but the mom is

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Speaker 2: other things, undermining our relationship and establishing that she is

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Speaker 1: And this is his mom. That's what I was about

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Speaker 2: A couple months ago, we were with a group of

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but Brad has given me these misguiding

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Speaker 2: She then said, there isn't a world where I get

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Speaker 1: Him if she's concerned. Yeah, if he's not gonna tell

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Speaker 2: up at the grandparents house about ten minutes before we

434
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: had to leave. She was flustered getting dressed, and I

435
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 2: noticed she had put her wedding ring back on When

436
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 2: she said hi to her, he still technically husband. You

437
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,959
Speaker 2: could see her get visibly more flustered and upset, and

438
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 2: then when saying hi to her sister in law, she

439
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: became more upset. She walked to another side of the

440
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 2: house and I followed her and gave a hug. She

441
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 2: broke down a bit, saying how she feels like a

442
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 2: stranger around all of these people, and all they were

443
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 2: saying is thank you for coming.

444
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 1: But where else would she be?

445
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: She said she knows it's not about her, though, and

446
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: I gave her another hug and said that doesn't mean

447
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 2: it isn't hard. So if she needs anything this weekend,

448
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 2: to let me know. I thought I earned brownie points

449
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 2: and was so wrong. Ay yai yai, just trying to

450
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 2: be nice. The wake was weird with her. I was

451
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 2: only there as a support system for Brad and any

452
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 2: other family member who needed it. I would keep my distance,

453
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 2: pay my respects, and make conversations when appropriate. She was

454
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 2: seen draped over her still husband sobbing. Would push your

455
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 2: adult children towards the casket to pay even more respects

456
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 2: although they already had, and would grab Brad's arm and

457
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: rape over him or got eyed him away when in

458
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: conversations with me.

459
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: It was weird. It feels like this weird, jealousy, weird,

460
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: like she's like having control over like all her kids' stuff.

461
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: It's like gross. Who rove up?

462
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 2: There came a time Brad needed a break from all

463
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: the family, friends and family, so we went to the

464
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 2: break room. Momentarily, Julie followed. Julie get out of there.

465
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: As we were walking, the funeral director grabbed me and said,

466
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 2: how they're bringing in another dead person in the hallway,

467
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 2: so to avoid it that.

468
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: Person come this way. Watch out, there's another one, another

469
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 1: one covin. We gotta keep it moving.

470
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: About three minutes later, Brad tried to get through the hallway.

471
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: I tried to stop him so he didn't get in

472
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: the way or have to see another corpse, but Julie

473
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 2: stopped me before I said anything. She told me to

474
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 2: stop falling Brad around like a puppy dog, and that

475
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,479
Speaker 2: he's in good company surrounded by his friends and family.

476
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,239
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, tell that to a mirror. Why

477
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 1: don't we look at a mirror. Why don't we tell

478
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: that to herself? But let's be so real. I am

479
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: his friends and family. The rest of the weekend consisted

480
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: of rude comments in front of family members to the

481
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: point where uncles and aunts on Brad's dad's side would

482
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: pull me aside and ask if we have a good relationship.

483
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: I would lie and say yes. Family members would approach

484
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: Brad and I saying how proud they are of us

485
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: for our new place together and the life we were building,

486
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: and I saw her scoff twice in the corner about

487
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: this while looking at us. She randomly passed by me

488
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 1: at one point and called me so rude under her

489
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 1: breath for no reason that was obvious to me. She then,

490
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: at the.

491
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: Burial, while everyone was quiet and the casket was literally

492
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 2: getting lowered, came and asked me why my face was

493
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: like that? Probably because she's freaking sad and they're at

494
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: a funeral, and why I look so upset in otherwise

495
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: complete silence. Hmmm, I don't know, Julie. Maybe because I'm

496
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: watching the final moments of a burial while my boyfriend

497
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: is crying next to me.

498
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: I just didn't respond. She also did other weird things

499
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 1: that weekend, like asked the kids and her still husband

500
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: to take a family photo at the family graveyard after

501
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: the burial, and then posted on social media. She's like

502
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: just at the graveyard with the fam it's like her.

503
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: Be real goes off and it's like her, and then

504
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: like the casket, it's like, oh, I want to know

505
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: if anyone's been posting a be reels at the graveyard.

506
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,959
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure people have.

507
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: Following all of that, paired with the previous comments about engagement,

508
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: I felt I had to talk to Brad about it all.

509
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: I didn't bring it up though, for a couple of

510
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: weeks until he was done mourning his family member. He

511
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: was oblivious to some of it, as men are, but

512
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: notice some of it too, and said he was so confused.

513
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: He said, it makes no sense why she's acting like this.

514
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: So I blatantly asked if she knew about engagement stuff,

515
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: which he said she had told her right before this

516
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 2: all started. By the way, you can tell us that

517
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 2: you're going to join us live every WEEKDA at three

518
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 2: pm PSD on YouTube just to have her rofile.

519
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: And there is a little bit left to the story.

520
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: But what do we do here?

521
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you have to directly tell your

522
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: partner and say, hey, like your mom's being really weird

523
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,719
Speaker 2: and making me uncomfortable, and hope that he can go

524
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: and have a conversation with her, Yeah, and.

525
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: Like, I feel like you can just be like, hey,

526
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: does she like usually talk to people like this or

527
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: like first second, I'm I was thinking, like, you know,

528
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: maybe the boyfriend would be like off if you're I

529
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 1: don't know, seeming like you're saying something bad about the mom.

530
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: But I feel like you could just be like, hey,

531
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: like your mom like said this to me today. That

532
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: was a little weird, Like, wasn't it. You know, Like

533
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: like I feel like that totally be fine. I think

534
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: so too, And hopefully the boyfriend would understand that that's

535
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: also weird. I mean, if he's about to be your

536
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: like life partner, you would hope that he can stand

537
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: up to you against his mom. And you just kind

538
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: of see like if my mom usually talks like that,

539
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: if she's kind of like that with everyone, or if

540
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: it's purely personal, Yeah, purely she hates you.

541
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: I asked how she reacted to him, and Brad said

542
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: she exclaimed how excited she was for me to become

543
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: part of the family, so it makes no sense. He

544
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: also doubled back, saying when she says Brad is in

545
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: love with her, that he's not, and that he loves

546
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 2: her how his son should love his mother but is

547
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: in love with me, he said. Next time he notices

548
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: her being cocoa for cocoa buffs like this, for the

549
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: sake of our future, he is going to say something

550
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: then there I hopefully get her to chill out and

551
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: respect me more. With the engagement probably creeping up on me,

552
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: I just get so nervous that I now have years

553
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: and years of her mental torment to look forward to.

554
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: Should I wait for him to address her when the

555
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: next thing happens, or should I squash all of this

556
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: now and have as adult of a conversation as she

557
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: can have and set some boundaries early.

558
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: I think you.

559
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: Should wait for him because she might like hate you more.

560
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: If you have a conversation with her.

561
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: Definitely get his input on it, and maybe he can

562
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: talk to her a bit first. I mean, I think

563
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: it's good to have that conversation with her. I think

564
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: so just the order of things, like maybe they just

565
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: don't come right out and be like, hey, you're weird.

566
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: Let's figure this out, like you know, feel around a

567
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: bit first. But that's the end of that story. We'll

568
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: see you next time. My neighbor is asking for my

569
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: spicy picks, so I exposed him to his wife. Oh,

570
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: exposed like the spicy pics the double expose. Buckle up.

571
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: This is going to be a long one. I'll need

572
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: to add some context so the story makes sense. Context.

573
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: Me twenty nine female, and my husband Will thirty are

574
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: currently going through divorce. Not related to this story, but

575
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: this happened during our separation while we were going to

576
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: therapy to try to work things out. My neighbors, both

577
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: mid forties male and female, have three kids fourteen male,

578
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: twelve female, and five female, and the neighbors are swingers.

579
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: This is important. Later we'll call those two Angie and Jacob.

580
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: Twelve female has some mental health issues that is important

581
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: to the story as well, but I will not be

582
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: going into detail with what's wrong. By the way, this

583
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: comes from slow adhesiveness eight nine three on the Okay

584
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: storytime separated. So back in twenty twenty one, my husband

585
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: and I moved into an apartment complex close to my

586
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: parents because my mom helps me out with my son

587
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: eight male from previous relationship a lot. Since I work

588
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: from home, I work early in the morning, so I

589
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: would take my dogs out of the park every morning

590
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: where Jacob would be leaving for work. At the time,

591
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: I didn't know what unit he lived in, but we

592
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: would just exchange hello, good morning, and be on our way.

593
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: In the afternoon, there would be a woman on the

594
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: second floor smoking overlooking the sidewalk to the dog park

595
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: with five female where the little girl would always yell

596
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: down to me that she loved my dogs. This went

597
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: on like this for a few weeks. Will Angie and

598
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: I finally all met officially one night when she came

599
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: down and dogs ran up to her. Dogs have a

600
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 1: good sense of character, and the two of us are

601
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: always on edge about meeting new people for a number

602
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: of reasons.

603
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 2: And that was the start of our friendship. And when

604
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: Jacob and I said that we had met already but

605
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: never talked beyond the good mornings, we would invite them

606
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: over for dinner and vice versa. One night, we're all

607
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: sitting around talking about things, and that's when they told

608
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 2: us they were part of the swinging community.

609
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: Oh, that was all lead up to this.

610
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: They're taking a swing right now based.

611
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: On how will and I act in dress. They thought

612
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: that we were also part of it, but quickly found

613
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: out we are not, Or maybe they hoped we have

614
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: friends who are also, but we ourselves talked about it

615
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: but decided not to pursue it. They were respectful of

616
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: our choices and never brought it up again. Fast forward

617
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: a couple of months and a few not super important

618
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: things happened to bring us all closer friends, including Angie

619
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: basically saving my life. She found me unresponsive on my

620
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: bathroom floor, with my door unlocked and my son home.

621
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: I had knocked on their door earlier to ask Jacob

622
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: if he or Angie would help me get my son

623
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: ready for school, and he told me she would go

624
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: check on me at some point. I don't remember much

625
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: about the day, but the doctor said I was in

626
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: really bad shape.

627
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: When the paramedics brought me in, Angie had gotten into

628
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: my phone and called nine one one and my mother

629
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: and will to get home to the situation. From that

630
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: point on, I put that Dan woman on a pedestal.

631
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: I respected her on such a deep level and saw

632
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: her as the sister I wish I had. I found

633
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: myself always spending time with her and her children. I

634
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 2: loved them as if they were my own, and I

635
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: still do so. Not having contact with them stinks. We

636
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: all had each other on Facebook, phone numbers and Snapchat.

637
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: Now here's where the issues started. In twenty twenty three,

638
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: Will's grandmother passed away, and then exactly seven days after

639
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: my father lost his battle with cancer.

640
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: Oh.

641
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: This was the catalyst of mine and Will's relationship deteriorating,

642
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: as we were not emotionally available for each other, as Will

643
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: felt that every time he came to me for comfort

644
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: that I would turn the attention on myself. Dude, my father.

645
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: I thought we were sharing our grief, but I was wrong,

646
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: and I went to Angie with all of my issues.

647
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: We would sit on her couch for hours and just

648
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: talk while Jacob was in the other room. My father

649
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: left me a good sum of money, so I paid

650
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: out the remainder of our lease and my family moved

651
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: in with my mom to help maintain the house because

652
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: it was massive. But I would still go over to

653
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: their apartment all the time. After we sold the house

654
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: and moved into another across the street from the apartment complex,

655
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: crap hit the fan and my husband and I started

656
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: the separation. Now, it wasn't uncommon for Jacob to send

657
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: me things on Snapchat. Why do you guys have Snapchat?

658
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Maybe? Why do adults have. I don't know, maybe.

659
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: Anyone have Snapchat.

660
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: Personally, I don't see the need for Snapchat anymore. Normally

661
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: it was videos or picks of their dogs or kids.

662
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: But after I made it known that Will and I

663
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: were separated, Jacob started paying a little too much.

664
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: Day to me.

665
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: But I was grief stricken because of the separation and

666
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: losing my dad in the same year, so I ignored

667
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: most of it. But every time I would have a

668
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: selfie on my snap Story, he would have something to say,

669
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: I know someone like that.

670
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: Is there literally here for the selfies? No.

671
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: Every time I would post something on like my Instagram story,

672
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: I have this one person who would always just hor no,

673
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: be like.

674
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: Wow, youok great? Yeah, I you look great in that.

675
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

676
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, thank you, thanks, thanks for sending

677
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: that for the eighty seventh day in a row. Person.

678
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: I never replied to.

679
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: Nothing incriminating, but it was all the time. It also

680
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: wasn't uncommon for me, Angie and Jacob to always hug

681
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: when saying goodbye or to comfort my grief. I wear

682
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: a lot of crop tops because I'm comfortable in my body,

683
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: so I'm used to always having a hand on my skin.

684
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me. But what did bother me is

685
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: that Jacob would deliberately start getting handsy when I would

686
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: give him a hug, to the point he would put

687
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: them up the back of my shirt. That was the

688
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: moment I started realizing this was not okay. During the

689
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: time of my separation, they started having issues with their

690
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: middle child to the point she needed help outside of

691
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: her parents and had a few stays at a youth facility.

692
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: I didn't want to add to their issues, and I

693
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: just chalked it up to he just needed comfort also,

694
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: But I stopped allowing him to hug me after that.

695
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: At one point, I was talking to Angie about a

696
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: vampire themed boudoir photoshoot I was going to be doing

697
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: with a friend. For those who don't know, boudoir is

698
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: a style of dress where we are dressed in lingerie.

699
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: But mine consisted of partial nudity.

700
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: Wait, that's what boudoir means.

701
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like.

702
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: I thought boudoir was just like another way to say bedroom.

703
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: My friend was female, as was the photographer, but I

704
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: only told this to Angie. However, Jacob was home, but

705
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: in his room. A few more weeks go by, without

706
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: much incident from him, beside snap met messages at inappropriate

707
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: times of the day, like two or three in the morning.

708
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: I finally started noticing the red flag.

709
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: Well, also, that's not during the day, that's night.

710
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: That's a night.

711
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: Those are night snapchats.

712
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: As time went on, he started making more outwardly flirty

713
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: comments to me, but I would always redirect the conversation

714
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: back to you know, his wife, but he kept at

715
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: it with his behavior. I started going over less and less,

716
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: but when I was there, I made sure not to

717
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: be alone with Jacob. I still loved Angie and the kids.

718
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: So I wasn't gonna let him ruin that for me.

719
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: When I finally let my husband know what was going on,

720
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: because I was handling this all myself, there was a

721
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: text exchange between me and Jacob where I finally shut

722
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: down his crappy behavior. When I got my photos back,

723
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: they were absolutely beautiful, but there was definitely some nudity

724
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: in them, so very very few people have seen the gallery.

725
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: Not even Angie has seen them. At this point, Jacob

726
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: and I had barely spoken. I would leave him on

727
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: red or not respond to his snaps. He and my

728
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: son share the same birthday, so I did send him

729
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: a happy birthday message, and that was the last thing

730
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: I had said until he messaged me late at night

731
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: one day he was sad. Why don't you go tell

732
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: your freaking wife that?

733
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, boohoo, I'm sad, not my wife.

734
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: Immediately I thought something was wrong with his daughter because

735
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 2: she was back in the facility, so I responded to him,

736
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: asking what was up? I was wrong about what I

737
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: thought was up?

738
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no no.

739
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: He said he was sad because he wanted to see

740
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: the gallery. So I finally had enough and proceeded to

741
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: tell him why he was not allowed to see them,

742
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: and how by asking shows how little he respects his wife.

743
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: On top of how dare he use my separation as

744
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: an excuse to try to get me into their weird

745
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: throuptle lifestyle. But he basically kept begging me to send

746
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: him the gallery, knowing full well there were spicy photos

747
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: of me and a friend. This guy sucks. A few

748
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: days later, Angie thought she had COVID, so I left

749
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: a rapid test outside and texted both of them, where

750
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: Jacob responded with yet another flirty comment that was ignored.

751
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: Once again, I think this behavior is outright not okay.

752
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: Oh no, this is just like a gross, cringey way

753
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: to try, which she might not look at you, yeah,

754
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: or be interested in you. Icky, Sorry, your husband is

755
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: a cringe.

756
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: We were in the PTA together and I wanted to

757
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: handle the situation as delicately as possible. I started making

758
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: remarks on how Jacob's behavior was making me uncomfortable and

759
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: maybe she should talk to him. That's yeah, that's bring

760
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: it up.

761
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

762
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: Boy, did I soon find out that both of these

763
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: bees were great gray.

764
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: So they were both in on it.

765
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: Will had texted Jacob saying he had seen all the

766
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: messages between me and him, and he had until morning

767
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: to tell Angie everything before he does it himself. Well,

768
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: this de lulu a man, somehow spun the story that

769
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 2: I was the one chasing after him and offered to

770
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: send him the gallery, even though he didn't have any

771
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: proof of that. This bandhie of a woman decided to

772
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: call Will and go off on him, saying, oh, he

773
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: needs to make me back off of Jacob and stop

774
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: flirting with him, but there's text proof.

775
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 3: Didn't they want that though? Didn't they want this? I

776
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: don't know. Didn't they want this? Will?

777
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: Was obviously confused because I had showed him the text

778
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: exchange about the photos and how I was never reciprocating

779
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: his advances while also redirecting the conversations back to his wife.

780
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: But all of your conversations should be redirected back to

781
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: joining us live every week did three pmpst justab her profile.

782
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: She told Will that the last message there was because

783
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: of us was the happy Birthday message I had sent,

784
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: but he had deleted everything that followed jokes on him.

785
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: I had my receipts.

786
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: I already wanted to go no contacts, so I blocked

787
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: them both on everything already.

788
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: So I strategically took screenshots of our text exchange with

789
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: the happy Birthday message and everything below it, sent them

790
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: to Will, and he texted them to her. Somehow, it

791
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: was still my fault, and she even went as far

792
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: threatening to beat my butt the next time she saw me.

793
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: That's insane to say to someone who was your friend

794
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: and you were really close to and saved your life

795
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: and your kids were friends.

796
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 3: Well, didn't you read she was clearly trying to steal

797
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: her husban.

798
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, you forgot about that by aggressive of trying

799
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: to take her husband let me tell you that I

800
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: quit the ptas so fast and removed any mode of

801
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: contact we had.

802
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: They still owe me money, but the amount I lent

803
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: them doesn't break the bank, so I'd rather cut my

804
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: losses than take them to small claims court. If I

805
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 2: don't see them ever again, it would be too soon.

806
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll ever be able to update

807
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: this post is I don't know if there was any

808
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: follout between the two of them, but I can imagine

809
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: the damning evidence I had set Ang's way definitely caused problems.

810
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: So am I the ale here or did I do

811
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: the right thing by exposing him?

812
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 3: And edit?

813
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: I forgot to write this, but the only reason I'm

814
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: running this out now is because the homeboy tried readding

815
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: me on Snapchat at four in the morning three days ago.

816
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: He never changes, He's consistent.

817
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: You know exactly what you're getting, No, p.

818
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: You're obviously not the a hole. You had creepy neighbors

819
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: who were trying to get your spicy picks and then

820
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: blamed you for it.

821
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: Just cut them off, simplified your whole life by just

822
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: being like and blocked out of my life. Our Karen

823
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: neighbor won't stop trespassing, so we reported her report report

824
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: you're off your property. I female twenty four, moved into

825
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 3: a new flat with my boyfriend Nate, male twenty seven,

826
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: just over two and a half months ago due to

827
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: our old house being riddled with mold.

828
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: Oh that's not riddled. Not a good fiddling, and you're riddling.

829
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: The area is so nice and quiet, and we have

830
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: a lovely garden with a cozy sheltered area and a

831
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: nice sized area that we're converting. So it's messy currently.

832
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from forest Gremlin thirteen on

833
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: the r slash okay story times up reddit. We have

834
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: such a vision to make a fairy garden with lights

835
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: in a pond with tiny mushrooms everywhere, and the vision

836
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 3: will take time. However, the walkway is clear and everything

837
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: is generally okay, which is relevant. We are in an

838
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 3: upstairs flat with a back garden, while our neighbor Karen

839
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: female fifty eight, has a front and a back garden. Okay,

840
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: legally she has access through our gardens during emergencies only,

841
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: so we were told before we signed our contract with

842
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: the estate agent. Fair enough, I can deal with that.

843
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 3: What emergency will there be in Wales too much rain.

844
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 3: So on with the story. So about six weeks ago,

845
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: Nate and I were home one Saturday and Karen came

846
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: strolling through our garden without a care in the world.

847
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: Thankfully I was inside, as I sometimes have the rage

848
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: of a dragon. Nate said he'd asked what she was doing,

849
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 3: and she said she had right of access through our garden.

850
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: He said that that was only during emergencies, and she

851
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: laughed at him and disagreed, and said our garden must

852
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: be clear for her to be able to come through.

853
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 3: She then left, continuing with her day, leaving our gate open.

854
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 3: The audacity of this woman already. Later in the afternoon

855
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: I caught her coming through our garden and leaving the

856
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: gate open. So I popped out of the door and

857
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 3: politely asked her to close it and put the bolt across.

858
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: When she came through, she seemed shocked to see me.

859
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 3: Weeks go by and we noticed dropped clothing having been

860
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 3: picked up, which is that. That's kind of her, But

861
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: why was she in our garden.

862
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: She's always in your garden.

863
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: Out of our garden, Karen, you have your own front

864
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: and that garden. We say nothing and are chatty when

865
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: we see Karen. I tend to sneak off and leave

866
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 3: Nate because I cannot be doing chatting for so blooming long.

867
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: We notice old grass spread on our path from a lawnmower.

868
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: We have no lawn, but say nothing, as we obviously

869
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: don't expect her to take the lawnmower through her house.

870
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: We're decent enough people most of the time. Nate and

871
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 3: I both ride motorbikes and they're precious to us, along

872
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 3: with a lot of expensive tools. And not so long ago,

873
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 3: someone stole my plant pots but dumped my plant.

874
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: I bet it was the freaking care the neighbors.

875
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 3: Karen was just like, I hate your plant so ugly.

876
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: I just want the pots. I'm taking the plants because

877
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: they're gross. We decided to get security cameras for peace

878
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 3: of mind when we're at work. We had a suspicion

879
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: Karen was snooping in our garden due to the above,

880
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: but today absolutely confirmed it. And I have such glee

881
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: typing that around am. Nate decided to turn the camera

882
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: through his phone app and minutes later, what does he

883
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: see Karen in our garden? Not only is she just

884
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: walking through, she's feeling our rubbish full on Fondle Dondele.

885
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: Nate called me right away, but neither of us could

886
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 3: view the near two minute long clip on the app.

887
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: All day. I tried to view that clip, but it

888
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 3: wouldn't load. The suspense was worth it, trust me. Nate

889
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 3: and I got home around five thirty pm and watched

890
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 3: the video of our neighbor feeling our rubbish. She walks

891
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 3: into the garden through her back gate and has a

892
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: good nosy round to make sure our motorbikes were out,

893
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: and she continues to look around, shaking her head like

894
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: a tick in disgust.

895
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: At what she's seeing.

896
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: She turns around and looks at our recycling bins and

897
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: starts to feel the rubbish inside a good old squish,

898
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: and she keeps doing this, looking around the bags and

899
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: then feeling again. She takes another long hor look in

900
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: absolute repulse before leaving. Nate and I, we're so mad.

901
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: Our privacy in our garden was being invaded, but are rubbish.

902
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 3: I tried calling one oh one, which is the non

903
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: emergency helpline for the police, but the wait was very long,

904
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: so I tried my estate agents, but no joy there either.

905
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: I decided to go and speak to Karen to see

906
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: what she was doing. Nate was listening from the window above,

907
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: and I went downstairs calmly. I knocked on the door,

908
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: and I had in my hand a piece of paper

909
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: with my name and number, as well as Nate's. The

910
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: look of anxiety in her face. Caught red handed, the

911
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: conversation went horrendously wrong. I asked if she could clarify

912
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 3: why she was in the garden today, and she said

913
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 3: she was looking at her electrical box. Granted there are

914
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: tomato plants and garden tools in front of it. If

915
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: she had asked, we would have moved them. I asked her, then,

916
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: why was she feeling our bins and she straight out

917
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 3: lied and said she hadn't. I asked again and said

918
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: I saw her do it as we have. She admitted

919
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: to just touching the bag, just touching my bot. I

920
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: said that I could see her feeling the can and

921
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: trying to see what was in the rest of the bag.

922
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: She became so defensive and I said it was just

923
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: a bit peculiar and I could help with anything. She said,

924
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: You're well, you do a lot of peculiar things too.

925
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: The look of anxiety and anger all at once in

926
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: Karen's squished face, I asked what peculiar things did I do?

927
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: She avoided the question and blew up black Vesuvius. She

928
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: said she knew what I was trying to do, and

929
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 3: to go away with my silly little notebook paper with

930
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 3: my number. I tried to explain what it was for,

931
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: so if she needed to come through and things were

932
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 3: in the way, she could let us know and we

933
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: would move them out of her way. But before I

934
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: could finish my sentence, she started shouting at me to

935
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: grow up.

936
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: And stop being silly, and then shut the door in

937
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 1: my face.

938
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: I posted the paper through her door, half worried she'd

939
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: snap my fingers off. She didn't. I didn't know what

940
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 3: to do, so I spoke to an officer at one

941
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 3: oh one and explained the situation. She offered to send

942
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: an officer to speak to her if we felt that

943
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: she was doing it to harass us. I kindly declined

944
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 3: and thanked the officer for the advice. I felt sending

945
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 3: an officer around was too drastic. I kind of agree

946
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: with you, yeah, she fondled dondeling. I really don't know

947
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 3: what to do next. Every little noise I'm on edge

948
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: that it's her in our garden again, any advice. I

949
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: spoke to the estate agents this morning and explained what

950
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: had happened. They Person one seemed distant to respond to

951
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: what I said, if that makes sense. They admitted that

952
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 3: the situation was strange. I sent them the footage like

953
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 3: they asked, and waited for a callback, and nearly six

954
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 3: hours later, no call back. I was sidetracked all day

955
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 3: and was fizzing inside at the thought of Karen's little

956
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: mits in our business yesterday. So I called the estate

957
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: am back again. They again, a second person seemed reluctant

958
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: to say much. I got the feeling that they knew

959
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: more than what they were saying. I explained the situation

960
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 3: again to person two and they just asked whether Karen

961
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,959
Speaker 3: owned the flat. After some searching online, there's not much

962
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 3: on rental history, so it's looking like she's the owner.

963
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: They said they were going to contact her family first

964
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 3: and then go around to see Karen on Thursday, and

965
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: then Lady too would come and visit Nate and I.

966
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 3: I thought that was a bit odd because of GDPR reasons.

967
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 3: Why would they go to her first before talking to her.

968
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: After thinking and stewing on these events for a while,

969
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 3: I started to think that the estate agents knew the

970
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: previous tenants had experienced similar issues, and that's why they

971
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: were distant to the topic at first. I'm now a

972
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: sitting goose and will wait for further developments. Thank you

973
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: all for the comments so far. They are very helpful,

974
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: and we have a second update. So just to recap

975
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: that first uphall basically the best thing. I was working

976
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 3: from home this afternoon and Karen paid me a visit,

977
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 3: wanting to talk. She was all smiley and full of

978
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 3: life today, as if she hadn't rudely slammed the door

979
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: in my face two days before. I said, as plainly

980
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 3: as a water cracker, that I was working, literally talking

981
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: to my manager on the phone, and she could come

982
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: back later once Nate was home. She continued to talk

983
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 3: to me, saying that she didn't know Nate and myself

984
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 3: very well, nor did we know her very well, and

985
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: that she wanted to clarify some things. Oh, we got clarifications, ain't.

986
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: Got some conversation happening.

987
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 3: I repeated that she should come back later, and she

988
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: asked why. I straight out said I didn't want to

989
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: talk to her alone. She turned from smiles, sunshine and

990
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 3: rainbows to fairly serious. Then she said she'd reported me

991
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: to the council and advised I proceed further through the

992
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 3: letting agents. I shouldn't have fueled the conversation, but I

993
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 3: stoopid did, telling her I'd already contacted the letting agents

994
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: and they'd be coming to see her tomorrow and that

995
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 3: i'd cause one oh one non emergency police for advice.

996
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: Her face dropped. I wish we had a door cam too,

997
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: so I could replay her facial change. She didn't know

998
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: what to say other than that was asked and efficient

999
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: of me before walking away, saying there was no problem here.

1000
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: Oh she was like, okay, that was pretty efficient.

1001
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 3: To go. She got out gamed you.

1002
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: She literally miss battle, but you will not win the war.

1003
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: Nate said that he'll go and see Karen once he's

1004
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: home from work. We're concerned as what she has reported

1005
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 3: us for. All we can think of is the occasionals

1006
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: Devil's letters for balancing my mental health I have ADHD,

1007
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 3: or the fact that we have had a bonfire for

1008
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 3: the last two nights. We will find out, I'm sure

1009
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 3: Update number.

1010
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: Three, My goodness what a tail?

1011
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: Who do you. Let's just guess whose side gets taken here,

1012
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 3: Op or Karen's because.

1013
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: She owns the place.

1014
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: But also I do think that you have to give

1015
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: certain amount of like for warrant, at least in the US,

1016
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: for a warning to letting people know when you're coming

1017
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: out to the property.

1018
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm guessing that the police take Op's side. It's been

1019
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: a few weeks, but today's interaction has fueled me. If

1020
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: you didn't see my previous posts, it's in this feat.

1021
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: The last update I gave on the original post was

1022
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 3: that sour kraut Karen from downstairs came to see me

1023
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: wanting to talk, but I refused until Nate was home. Anyway,

1024
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: she didn't come back to see us. The estate agents

1025
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 3: still haven't been to see us either, as they're looking

1026
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: for her family. Very suss to me onwards with the

1027
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 3: story for context, we have an outdoor fire every night

1028
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 3: that it's not raining. Rains a lot here, especially this year.

1029
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: The rear garden does not get any direct sunlight after

1030
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: five thirty PM due to the tall trees blocking the

1031
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 3: sun as it goes down before sunset. A few days

1032
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 3: after the last encounter with Karen, it's a dry evening. Oddly,

1033
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: she put her washing out at seven thirty pm, even

1034
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: though there was no sun, they wouldn't dry overnight. It's

1035
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 3: also odd as she is never outside at this time

1036
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: of night, and this is important. We left it until

1037
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 3: eight thirty pm, and the washing was still outside, so

1038
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: Nate decided to go downstairs and let the crazy lady

1039
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 3: know we would be having a fire outside at nine

1040
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: thirty pm. This gave her an hour to bring her

1041
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: clothes in. Nate knocked on the door, but no answer.

1042
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: He gave it a few minutes and knocked again. I

1043
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: was placed by the upstairs window listening, and she opened

1044
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 3: the door and Nate politely said, oh, hello, just let

1045
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: you know we'll be having a fire at nine thirty.

1046
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: She slammed the door in his face before he could

1047
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: even finish talking. Nate said, her face became so screwed

1048
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: up and annoyed as soon as he said the word fire.

1049
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: We found the whole interaction so hilarious we couldn't help

1050
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 3: but laugh. After discussing with each other, Nate and I

1051
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 3: came to the conclusion that she'd put her washing out

1052
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: to stop us from having a fire. I'd been talking

1053
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: outside the day before about what constitutes as a statutory

1054
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: nuisance in regard to outdoor fires and affecting neighbors. Drying

1055
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 3: washing due to fires was in the list. Karen thought

1056
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: she was being clever by putting her washing out, but no, no, no,

1057
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 3: we'll beat you with kindness. Since then there was there's

1058
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 3: been no washing on the line after five pm. A

1059
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 3: couple of weeks go by, and it brings us to today.

1060
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: I was leaving the flat this morning at ten am

1061
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: to go to Sally's. I bought hair yesterday from Tesco,

1062
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: but only one box had the cream color, so my

1063
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 3: hair's currently half neon orange and half bleached. I look

1064
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: my own state of crazy. As I was locking the

1065
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 3: gate to leave, I hear someone shout Oi, and I

1066
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: turned to see Karen stood on her doorstep and her pajamas,

1067
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 3: looking like an old hen with ruffled feathers. She does

1068
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 3: not look happy. I reply with it's good morning, not Oi,

1069
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 3: to which.

1070
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,959
Speaker 1: She shouts back, it's oi to you.

1071
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 3: Before I could say anything back, she starts ranting about

1072
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: how I'd been doing something every day for the past

1073
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: two weeks, but she was shouting so much and so fast.

1074
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: I didn't really have any idea what she was on about.

1075
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: I tried to ask, but.

1076
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: She slammed the door.

1077
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 3: Nate came running outside to see what was going on,

1078
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 3: and I explained the situation loudly so if anyone was listening,

1079
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 3: they'd be sure to hear. Before I left, I asked

1080
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: Nate if he wanted anything from the shop, as I

1081
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: was going to find a bag of polite manners to

1082
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 3: post through her letter box as Karen had clearly lost hers.

1083
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 3: I'm not too sure what I've done every day for

1084
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: the past two weeks, but I look forward to finding out.

1085
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 3: We've informed the estate agents, but they probably won't do anything.

1086
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: I really do think that the estate agents know something

1087
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 3: about Karen. They're not telling us as to why they

1088
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 3: would need to find her family before talking to her.

1089
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 3: In addition to this, the male neighbor from downstairs who

1090
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 3: will call Terry, approached me after my first fire breathing

1091
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 3: battle with Karen. Terry walked up to me as I

1092
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: was leaving for work in the morning and asked me

1093
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 3: what time I finished work these days. What a weird

1094
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 3: question to ask with no context. I politely said, it

1095
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 3: varies on the day. Depending on the workload, which is true.

1096
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 3: Something else that is also true is that you can

1097
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 3: join us live on YouTube every weekday at three pm PST.

1098
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: Just tap our profile. Tap it.

1099
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 3: All I gotta do is tap it. My advice at

1100
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: this point, because now there's another guy getting into the

1101
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: mix here asking you about when you go to work,

1102
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 3: get all your ducks in a row and find out

1103
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: the exact rights that you have as a renter or

1104
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 3: a leaser, whatever you call it, over there.

1105
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: Exactly, and then you know at anytime you notice that

1106
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: she's breaking one of those dogs, can you man it?

1107
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: Take it to the popo.

1108
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 3: So Terry went on to say that the council were

1109
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: coming out about railings. I don't know why I needed

1110
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 3: to know that, but I did come home earlier than

1111
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: usual that day. It wasn't the council that came around

1112
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 3: to sort his railings. They had come with the police

1113
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 3: to raid my other neighbor's house after kicking the door

1114
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 3: in for the devil's lettuce. We think Karen Terry and

1115
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 3: A B Word from Number thirteen had this plan with

1116
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: the police and didn't want either of us to know

1117
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 3: or see or wanted us to be affected. But needed

1118
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 3: to know what time we were home. I say this

1119
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: because I watched from the window for nearly two hours

1120
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: the police outside. One officer went to every house and

1121
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 3: flat on the estate with a fly or leaflet of

1122
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 3: some sort, but not ours. I mean every house in

1123
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 3: flat and not ours. And that is straight up end

1124
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: of that. Damn No.

1125
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: It ended with them.

1126
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 3: Being like story and the police story ends with like

1127
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 3: they're using the police to evict people in our place.

1128
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 3: This is a hole, and nothing else After that.

1129
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: I hope they're okay, Yeah.

1130
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 3: Well, if you've got anything that they can evict you

1131
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: or arrest you, for get it out of there. Because

1132
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 3: these people are plotting to come for you. I'm gonna

1133
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 3: send this old lady to Fondle Dondel jail.

1134
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: Our neighbor is so annoying, so I decided to be

1135
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: petty after moving out.

1136
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 3: Such a little bit of Tom.

1137
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 1: Penny Petty in the playlist. This was a big step

1138
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: on my long journey of the recovering people pleaser that

1139
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: I am. The thing you have to know before I

1140
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: get into the story. When I was a kid, ten female,

1141
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: I lived in an apartment where the downstairs neighbors were

1142
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: batcrap crazy about every little noise we were making. We

1143
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: were tiptoeing from room to room, turning down the volume

1144
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: of the television, avoiding putting our music onto loud, not

1145
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 1: running or jumping, et cetera. We were putting an honest

1146
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: effort to accommodate the comfort of their ears. By the way,

1147
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: this comes from a Craig cat lady on the Ochus

1148
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: start time sub So we lived above those hell spawned

1149
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: for two and a half year years.

1150
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: One year of calls from the landlord to say we

1151
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: were making too much noise, only one year because after

1152
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: that he realized they were exaggerating. In two and a

1153
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: half years of the neighbors banging on their ceiling because

1154
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: we dared walking instead of flying from room to room.

1155
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: All that time marked me enough into thinking that every

1156
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 2: knock at a building was a neighbor complaining.

1157
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: About my existence. Back to the present, my two and

1158
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: a half years fiance thirty three male Will and I

1159
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: thirty female. I've been living in a family and pet

1160
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: friendly apartment building for two years. The first end of

1161
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: year holiday we had there, we came back from a

1162
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: Christmas night at my mom's a little after midnight. My

1163
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: partner and I were having a regular conversation about fifty

1164
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: dB between decibels between the two of us at fifty

1165
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: centimeters from the microphone, very specific numbers.

1166
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 3: As an audio engineer, I've ever heard one in my life.

1167
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: I know because I measured with a decibel meter to

1168
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: make sure we were not exaggerating. Mind you, the building

1169
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: was made with concrete, usually pretty good for soundproofing. Well,

1170
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: the lady from my childhood came back to haunt me

1171
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: when I heard someone under us banging their ceiling with

1172
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 2: the broom for a good ten seconds. I automatically felt

1173
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 2: bad by people pleasing reflex but also very angry. Will,

1174
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: being non confrontational, said to ignore and not stoop down

1175
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: to their level. Even if I felt petty, I listened.

1176
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 2: It happened a few more times over a few months

1177
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 2: here and there, until one day at about one am.

1178
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: Will was snoozing on the couch while watching Ambiguous Amphibian

1179
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: at a very low volume on YouTube, and I was

1180
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: sitting in front of my computer, crocheting and listening to

1181
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: music with my headphones. I got up because I remembered

1182
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: that my electric car was done charging and I had

1183
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: to bring it back into the garage. I go to

1184
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: the bathroom, put on pants over my pajama shorts, my coat,

1185
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: get out of the apartment, close the door. When I

1186
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: hear hi, Hello, Hi, Hi ooh. I turn around, very

1187
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: surprised to see someone in the hall this late. After

1188
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 2: exchanging a few words, he makes me understand that there

1189
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: was a noise complaint against us. I said, what noise?

1190
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: Come in, see what racket we're actually doing. You didn't

1191
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: want to come in, even if I insisted two times

1192
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: so he could finish his complaint report. I asked if

1193
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 2: it was coming from downstairs, and he just said I

1194
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: am not allowed to say, but his face told me

1195
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: what I wanted to know. Well, I suppose they realized

1196
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: complaining to the landlord of the building didn't solve anything,

1197
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: because we didn't hear a thing from them until a

1198
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: month and a half ago. And you know what, I

1199
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 2: didn't give a single little rabbit turd because we just

1200
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 2: bought our first house.

1201
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: Yay, huzzah. You don't have to worry about your neighbor

1202
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: nemesis anymore.

1203
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 3: That's right.

1204
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: Unless they move into your walls, you'll be You're messed up.

1205
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: After that, we signed the deed a month ago and

1206
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 2: took over the house two weeks after in mid September.

1207
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: We started packing boxes in mid August and moving things

1208
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: around a little bit more than usual. Now they're making

1209
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: more noise right after work. Little by little. When we

1210
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: took over the house, we ended up spending more time

1211
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 2: at the house, making long days painting the walls from

1212
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 2: ten am to twelve am to make it our own.

1213
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: So we were tired and the only thing we did

1214
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 2: at the apartment was sleep and take showers. The day

1215
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 2: before the move, Friday night, we did end up packing

1216
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: the last few things until ten pm, but nothing that

1217
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: caused much big noise. And there it was the same

1218
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: banging increasing the pressure in the crock pot containing my frustration.

1219
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: It's about to boil.

1220
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: Over my frustration. Crock pot is at maximum pressure.

1221
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: I kept doing what I was doing. If they did

1222
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: complain to the owners again, all I know is no

1223
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: one knocked at the door to tell us. After a few.

1224
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: Days setting up most of our things in the house,

1225
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: we had to go back to the apartment to paint

1226
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: walls back to white or like gray. It was about

1227
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: three pm when I decided to make the day less

1228
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: long and boring, so I put on some music on

1229
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: my speakerphone and started singing while painting. I have a

1230
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: college degree in singing, so I don't think I'm the best,

1231
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: but I really don't sing like a scrap rap What

1232
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: does that mean? Then, when I'm about to do some

1233
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: brushing at the bottom of the wall, I pushed the

1234
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: step stool away with my foot, making a significant noise

1235
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: on the floor. Oops, and sit. When I tell you

1236
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: two point four to three seconds later, it might have

1237
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: been sooner.

1238
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: The monkey played bongo on their.

1239
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,959
Speaker 3: Ceiling, I'd just play it right back. Yeah, just start,

1240
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: just start bum bum bum bun I go boom boom

1241
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 3: boom boom boom.

1242
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: Literally just match them. Do you like the have you

1243
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: seen Doctor Who Midnight episode? Just start copying them, you

1244
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: know when they're like tapping on the walls.

1245
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: And I know exactly what you're doing. Yeah, And then

1246
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: I well, we're not going to get into that. We're

1247
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 3: not godding, we're not going to get into a recap

1248
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: of an entire Doctor Who episode.

1249
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: Remember all that frustration that I didn't unleash all those

1250
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: previous times, I didn't care anymore. I bang back.

1251
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 2: We did that a few more times until Will came

1252
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: out of the other room to scold me, saying, you

1253
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: didn't want to have problems on the last day we

1254
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: were there. Laws here allow you to make more noise

1255
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: than normal for renovation until seven pm. I knew we

1256
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: were fine, but I stopped.

1257
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: It made me more mad. I listened again. As I

1258
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: kept painting the walls, I felt more and more of

1259
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: the urge to unleash petty me. I told myself, I

1260
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: will get the last word in another way. All of

1261
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: those times where I felt little because walking from my

1262
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: bathroom to my bedroom was inconveniencing some other stranger. I

1263
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: was done, by the way, you should never be done

1264
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: with joining us live every week toad three pmpst just

1265
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: to our profile.

1266
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 3: Do it.

1267
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: There's a little bit left. But what do you think

1268
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: O piece going to do here?

1269
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 3: I think this is one of those times where like

1270
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: you're totally like, this is an annoying thing, and you

1271
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 3: are not necessarily inherently wrong for like being petty about it.

1272
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: Also, they're like about to leave, Yeah, they're about to move.

1273
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 3: Fine for your own piece, in your own head, I

1274
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: feel like this is way better to not care at

1275
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 3: all about, which is you know, it's like I think

1276
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 3: maybe a little privileged to be like, well, just don't

1277
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 3: care about it, yeah, or like I've been caring about

1278
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 3: it for a year and it's like this is something

1279
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: I care about. But it's like, I mean, yeah, it'd

1280
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 3: be funny to do something petty back, but be funny.

1281
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: I guess it's do we take the high road or

1282
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: do we take the funny one.

1283
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just can't imagine being so miserable to be like,

1284
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 3: you stop making noise up there. It's like either living

1285
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 3: in an apartment where there's a people above me. I'm

1286
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: a no, they're gonna make noise.

1287
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: They have to. They've gotta make noise. You just have to.

1288
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: If you're living below someone, you gotta be prepared for

1289
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of noise.

1290
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1291
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: When we were ready to leave and everything and everything

1292
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: was packed in the car to go home, I forgot

1293
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: the broom and the apartment. I went back up, took it,

1294
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: went to the down the stairs to the second floor

1295
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: where the monkey lived, and I carefully slipped a little

1296
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: note that I had thoughtfully written in the mail trap

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Speaker 1: of their apartment to my patient, civilized, understanding ex neighbor,

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Speaker 1: If by any chance you ever get the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: go f yourself, you should really take it. So it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: They didn't go the noisy route. They just went you're

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Speaker 1: the worst. Here's a note. I feel like that's I

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Speaker 1: think that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like I was imagining like they were gonna

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Speaker 3: like do like some sort of orchestrated like and I

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Speaker 3: was like, it's like, we really need to do this.

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Speaker 3: You can get your vengeance or whatever. But it's like

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like it's you're just

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Speaker 3: spending more energy on that and you're becoming more bitter

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Speaker 3: about it. It's like the only person who's really receiving

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Speaker 3: any negativity from that is just you.

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Speaker 2: Will didn't know I had done that, and when I

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Speaker 2: came back to the car, I let him know two

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Speaker 2: hours after we got home, and he just said, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: what is done is done. I still watch the Facebook

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Speaker 2: page of the neighborhood I used to live in in

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Speaker 2: case they would post and complain like most people of

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Speaker 2: that Facebook group do well. I would just eat popcorn

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Speaker 2: reading the comments. But unfortunately the post never happened. And

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Speaker 2: that is the end of that story. They've got their

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Speaker 2: own house now. No one's living underneath them,