WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Wednesday, February 3 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:09.400 It's Wednesday where he fairs. This is Jaguars Happy Hour 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:17.560 and now number fifteen World Acts throwing people to watch. 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:25.880 Jay Peace, Shad welcome in. It's Wednesday, Jaguars Happy Hour, 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:30.480 j P. Shadrick, John Oser, senior writer Jaguars dot Com 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:34.279 and Bucky Brooks NFL media analysts. And here we are 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.800 in the off season. We've got a lot to discuss 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:41.880 this week. We've got coordinator hires, reported position coach hires 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.480 to to delve through all the reports. Nothing official as 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.960 of the taping of this podcast. Some senior Bowl standouts. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.879 Both you guys are in Mobile but now, Bucky, you 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.680 were in l A. But we'll cover that in just 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.560 a moment. The quarterback off season carousel has already started 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:02.200 around the league and Super Bowl is Here is Super 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.560 Bowl Week and the Chiefs are joining the COVID list 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:11.279 because of haircuts. But get into that coming up, all right, guys, 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:17.360 Urban meyern I wanted an elite staff and their names 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.959 popping out now reported names again, nothing official until the 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.880 team announces it. But the reporters are Daryl bevil Is 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:28.360 the offensive coordinator, Brian Schottenheimer the passing game coordinator, and quarterbacks. Coach. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:32.080 Let's start there on offense, guys. This is where the 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:33.720 focus will be in the off season because of the 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:38.440 quarterback situation, Bucky. So these really have to be right now. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:40.640 They do have to be right. I think what's interesting, 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.560 um when you bring on Daryl Bebo, and I think 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.399 it's important to lump and Brian's Schottenheimer. I think it's 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:50.080 important for Jaguars fan to understand that both of these 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:55.080 coordinators have had success working with young quarterbacks. If you 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.680 go back and look at Daryl Belbo obviously in Seattle 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.960 with Russell Wilson and how this team, that team was 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:02.600 able to get to the Super Bowl with a young 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.960 quarterback who was playing more as a game manager early 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.959 who evolved into being a playmaker later in his career. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.720 If you go to the Jets, this name is going 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.440 to make maybe some guys cringe. But Brian Schottenheimer was 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.840 on that stuff. I think when they had Mark Sanchez 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.240 and what they did with Mark Sanchez when they went 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.240 to a couple of ANFC championship games and those things. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.880 And so to me, what his signals is that Urban 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.919 has a plan for how they're going to play early. 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.519 I think it's gonna be a run heavy team that 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.920 plays physically, and they're gonna try and teach the quarterback 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:36.920 to make sure they take care of the football. But 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:38.960 if you do those things, you can win a lot 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:42.680 of games. JP. You can cringe all you want at 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.840 the name Mark Sanchez, but you know I covered Colts 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:50.760 teams uh when Sanchez was young that lost to Mark 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.720 Sanchez and the Jets when he was I don't know 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.440 if he was playing at a high level, but they 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.400 were winning with it, so clearly Schottenheimer knows what he's 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:03.600 doing on that front. I thought it was interesting the mix, meaning, 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.519 you know, they can all do everything, but Bevil is 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.079 a little bit more known for being a run guy, 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:14.280 Schottenheimer more for being a past guy. A good balance there. 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:18.320 It certainly sounds like Schottenheimer will be, you know, quarterback 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:22.359 coach slash passing game coordinator. Doesn't sound like they're hiring 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:26.520 a true quarterbacks coach. Schottenheimer is a guy. He's been 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:30.760 around the league long enough where he's certainly deserves more 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.880 of a title than straight quarterbacks coach if you're going 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:35.560 to play that. I don't know that they care that 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:39.480 much about titles, but it's you know, all of the 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:44.240 concern when Urban was first hired was the whole college coach, 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:48.640 college coach college. Well, this is an experienced staff now, 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.960 you know. I assume that he will be listening and 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.720 telling these guys, hey, tell me what I don't know. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.320 You guys are the NFL guys. He's got a lot 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.120 of NFL experience to tell him what he doesn't know. 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.640 You have a bunch of low ego guys. I can 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.000 say this about having known Bryan since he was younger. 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:08.200 Obviously I played for his dad, Marty in Kansas City. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.080 He understands what winning looks like. And I think when 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:13.840 you go all the way back and you put it 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.720 all together, all of these coaches have come from winning 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.719 programs and they went at a high level. I would 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:23.599 say Revel and Shotenheimer probably exposed their most winning in Seattle. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.040 But they understand what it looks like. And I think 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.160 as Urban is kind of kind of filling his way 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.520 around the NFL game, they certainly can help him in 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.880 that regard. But I don't think you can underestimate the 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.200 amount of experience that they're going to have on that 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.839 side of the ball, and also in that quarterback room. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:45.000 I think for a young quarterback who is bright or whatever, 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.520 I think they will help him transition very very quickly 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.200 to being able to play it right away. They've also 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.800 got guys JP who have worked with each other and Bucky, 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.400 you may no more detail about this than I do, 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.080 but correct me if I'm wrong. Bevil Schottenheimer, wide receivers, 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:03.800 coach have been together, They've been on staffs bare minimum. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:07.400 They know each other. How important is that sort of knowledge, Bucky, 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.480 when you're trying to put together a staff. Oh, I 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.240 think I think it's very important because you want to 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:13.560 make sure that everyone is speaking the same language. I 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.240 think the one thing that is really clear, especially if 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:17.960 you have a young team, because remember the Jacks are 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.280 very very young, you don't want mixed messages in different 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.480 position rooms. You don't want one person saying one thing 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.240 and we're gonna call it this way, and another person 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.240 saying something else and it's termed a different way. You 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.560 want everyone to be on the same page. And I 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:35.360 will give credit um to Urban for putting together a 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:40.120 staff where every there there's a level of synergy from everybody. 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.120 We're talking about the offensive of the ball, but even 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.400 on defense, there's a level of compatibility and everyone kind 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.440 of understands it. I think early on, when you're dealing 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.920 with young guys, you want the coaches to be able 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:52.880 to stand in the front of the the room very confidently 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.400 and do the teaching so that everybody understand it and 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.480 you don't have any gray areas or or vagueness to 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.840 what is being asked and installed. I had one more 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.800 question for Bucky JP if go yeah, um, you know, 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.520 we followed teams JP and I followed the league, but 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.440 most of our studying is about the Jaguars, So I 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:18.839 know Bevil, uh. I don't know personally Schottenheimer. I haven't 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:20.799 talked to him since I was covering with the University 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.560 of Florida when he first transferred there. I did a 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.080 story on it, which makes me old and you know, 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:30.200 frankly him old too. But define what Bevil's gonna bring 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.560 in terms of everybody associates him with Seahawks offense, you know, 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.279 but what would you say that he's bringing to the 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:42.720 table that Urban loves. You know, here's the thing, like 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.520 now everything is so blended. I would say both of 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:49.679 these guys no West Coast offense and some way shape 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.440 or form, they've kind of moved away from that. If 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.640 they as they've gotten more experienced in the National Football League, 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.919 they know the running game and they understand how to 0:06:57.920 --> 0:06:59.800 marry the run game, but the past game, which is 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:02.479 very very important because for the defense you want it 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:07.000 all to look alike. I think their experienced with young quarterbacks, 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.159 they understand how to take some of the pressure off 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.120 of the quarterback in terms of how they call the game. 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.000 The thing that would be interesting as we get closer 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.600 to it if we ever get privy to the play 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.160 calls in the verbage In the past, I know Schottenheimer 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.600 and Beba like their play calls could be very verbose, 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.720 and you just wonder have they evolved to the point 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:30.480 where they've been able to cut some of that down 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.520 so guys can play fast and free without having to 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.920 learn all of the extra stuff that each and every 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.320 term signifies when you use it in a play call. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:47.520 Gruden with hopefully, hopefully not hopefully they learn how to 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.680 scale it back, because the key to getting the young 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.360 guys to play fast is so they can just understand it, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.440 they can get it and they can go and with 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.200 so many young players, it's different when you have a 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:03.280 veteran skills that skill set of players, or a veteran 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.640 offensive line, and in a young quarterback, that's one thing, 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.040 but everybody's young, like they all the babies and newbies, 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.360 So you just want to make sure that everyone can 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.240 understand it so they can have to ground running when 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.480 they do take take the field. All right, let's look 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:20.400 to the defensive side now. Joe Cullen is reportedly the 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.200 defensive coordinator and a former defensive line coach here in 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:28.600 Jacksonville's last year was my first season here, John, I 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.520 think your second season back here. You can hear him 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:35.680 a mile away. He's got a distinctive approach and voice, 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.640 and he's been a d line coach ever since then. 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.679 Before then obviously in the NFL, this is his first 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.680 go around as a coordinator, and John, it's good to 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.240 see him back around in this environment and I'm curious 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.120 how that will translate to the front of the defensive 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.120 room for the first time. John, Well, it's you know, 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.400 I have no doubt and I'm not in I'm not 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.040 in meetings every No, I didn't play the game, but 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.880 if if you're around coaches, you get a feel for 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:06.520 guys who are going to be comfortable in front of 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.480 the room. Look, the only reason Joe Colin hasn't been 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:13.520 a coordinator already is the off field stuff, which everybody 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:18.360 who follows this note He's more than qualified. This chance 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:22.000 to be a coordinator is long overdue for him. I 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:23.800 have no doubt that he can get in the room. 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.240 You know, I know from football people that I talked to, 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.200 from guys who can watch tape and study x AS 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:35.720 and knows he is in an above good, elite pass 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.240 rushing coach. What I care about with the coach are 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.360 his guys going to respond to him? Are they going 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.480 to buy in? If you've met Joe Colin once, you 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:49.400 know players are gonna love playing for him, Absolutely love 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.840 playing for him. But it's not like he's soft on 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.599 him JP. This is a guy who was built to 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.480 be a coach. He can be tough on guys. Players 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.560 love him. Players are fiercely loyal to this man. I 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.360 have no doubt he can coach pass rush. He's gonna 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.760 have his eye on that part of it. But to me, 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.240 you know, I would be stunned if Joe Colin is 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:13.160 not a high end level defensive coordinator. This guy was 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:17.000 born for this job, and it's overdue, not John. I 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.160 think John brings up great points in terms of the 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.120 de leicship ability. Coming from Baltimore. They're going to have 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.400 all the tricks and gadgets up front to really be 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.840 able to attack, pass protection, stop to run, and do 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.960 those things. I think everyone who has come out of 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:35.160 that Baltimore system understands how to really tricked the offense 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.840 against the run and the past. The most important person 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.560 on this defensive staff will be whoever is responsible for 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.280 the secondary. I know it's been reported that Chris ash 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:50.360 may come. Typically defensive coordinators come from either linebacker spots 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:54.000 or secondary spots because they look at the game from 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.600 back to front. And because the NFL is a pass 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.280 heavy game, you have to be able to make sure 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.560 that you have coverage. And so because um as John 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.360 alluded to, he Joe come is gonna be so focused 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.800 on the front, someone has to make sure that they're 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.160 able to tie in the back in the coverage to 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.600 fit what his imagination is dreaming up for what they 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.720 want to do with the front seven. And so the 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:22.320 secondary coach, if they hire an additional cornerbacks coach, they 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.319 have to be great teachers, and they also have to 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.320 be great tacticians because they have to sit in the 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.040 room when the coaches are getting together and make sure 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.679 that it all marries and that it sound because you know, 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.440 the play calls on the other side of the field 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.800 are also great when it comes to the X and os. Yeah, 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:41.959 and that's the other trick to once they get into 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.400 the personnel side of this thing, it's not like there's 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.600 a lot of experience back there that's going to be back. 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.480 I mean, Henderson's in the second year, he didn't play much. 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:54.560 Who knows about d J. Hayden the safeties, uh what, 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:58.760 they had eleven different lineups in the secondary last year. Well, 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:00.839 you know that's you know, know what's gonna be out 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:05.000 there to work with. No, that's that's that That's why 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.280 it's going to be really really interesting because when urban 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.200 Meyer was at Ohio State, and I know the game 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.840 isn't the same in terms of college to the pro, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.320 but one of the things that they wanted to do 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.680 is they evolved from being a team that played man 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:22.120 to man all the time where they're playing like quarters 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.560 cover four will He talked about where your corners are 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.760 pressed and they're kind of locked up on their guy 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.880 and then the safeties are hovering around ninety yards from 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.200 the box to being more of a cover three team, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.280 a vision and break team. Meaning if you can envision 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.360 what the Indianapolis Coast did where they played zone as 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:43.080 on the quarterback, athletic players reacting to the vision of 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:47.520 the quarterback and making quick reactions, that's what they evolved to. 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:51.760 Which version of coverage and defense will we see with 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:55.040 this young team? In my mind, because they're so young, 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.920 it has to be something that's fairly easy for them 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.560 to digest and you can kind of rick it up 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.880 with your pre snap disguises. What you want the scheme 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.240 to be very very easy for them to understand so 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:10.120 they can play fast. Yeah, I wonder JP and Bucky. 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.319 You know, I don't know how these guys will look 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.719 at it, because we really haven't talked to very many 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.680 people to to know what they think about personnel, and 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.480 they're not even into personnel yet. But C. J. Henderson, 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:26.160 you would think as a starter beyond that in the secondary, 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.280 you know. I I'm not saying the guys who were 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:33.080 here now can't start, but I don't think there's anybody 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.760 who's a lot to be a starter in this secondary. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.640 Perhaps C. J. Henderson, although he played what six seven 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.600 games JP, you assume he's a lot because the draft position. 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.480 You assume he's a lot because of talent. Beyond that, 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.960 you know, I think all bets are off back there. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.280 So I agree with Bucky whoever is coaching those guys, 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.120 the ability to mesh what the rest of the defense 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.880 is doing, but the ability to make sure these guys 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.360 can play and come in because you're gonna be dealing 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.160 with But I would assume you would sign at least 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.360 one guy back there. I'd be surprised if there's not 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:08.640 a safety veteran safety sign. But it's all gonna be new. 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:10.920 There's that could be any cohesion with this bunch, you 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:15.120 wouldn't think. So it's uh that area. To me, They've 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.199 got two areas to build a defensive tackle and maybe 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.960 the entire secondary. Yeah. Now, the good thing in this 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.560 year's draft, like there are a number of young cornerbacks 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.640 and stuff that you can find. But in looking I 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.280 was I was looking up some notes that I had 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.880 on Chris Ash like I would anticipate you can see 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:32.400 a lot of man to man in the back end, 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.480 some form of it, like we can think about quarters 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.680 in those things. Because the Baltimore Ravens did a lot 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.360 of that um kind of stuff with the players that 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.240 they had. Marlon Humphrey was pressed up a lot. You 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.320 would see Marcus Peters playoff, but it was a lot 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.560 of man to man coverage, and so that means you 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.560 have to really be committed to getting a level athletes. 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.640 There are some who would tell you that man to 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.360 man is probably the easiest thing to teach because it's 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.200 a cat defense. You've got that cat and wherever he goes, 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.400 you follow. So then it's a matter of of of 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.640 kind of understanding how to handle the pics and those things. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.240 The New England pages have done it for years, and 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.160 they've done it with lesser athletes because that's what they do. 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.480 They live in it. And so when you think about 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.200 Urban Miri and those relationships, he may want to put 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.560 in something that's pretty simple to install, and you just 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.560 really work on getting better through repetition and trying to 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.120 bring in a level athletes to play in those respective 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:26.320 positions outside. Is it easier Bucky to quote play fast 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:30.040 and man when you're a kid? Um? I think so, 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.680 And I think it's easy to play fast and man 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.840 because here's the thing. Um, when you play man the Man, 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.800 it can take a toll on your legs because every 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.520 day in practice you're running around, you're chasing the GPS 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.480 is going to go bananas because you just you're just 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.000 running a track meet every day. But when you have young, 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.600 fresh legs, you can do that. And when you play 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.040 man the Man, what you do is you eliminate some 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.880 of the easy throws that we see teams living with, 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:57.600 some of the bubble screens, some of the r p 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.840 O stuff. It takes part away. And so if you 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.360 can get another player, so you have C. J. Henderson 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.040 on one side, you're going to get another man to 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.160 man corner, whether that's a veteran or a young guy. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.880 You put those guys in and normally when you try 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.480 and play this style, your two best players are your 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.920 cornerbacks and then you build other nine guys after that. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.000 And so that's what Urban did it Ohio State, That's 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.280 what he did at Florida. It's always worked for him. 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.280 Of later those big profile things, I think he certainly 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.600 want to see if you can do that initially in 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.600 Jacksonville and then if they have to change their change. 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:32.920 But I think that's probably the mindset coming into it. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.840 You can get corners this year at thirty three, right, 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.240 but yeah, you can get corners, and the thing will be, um, 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.800 do you want long corners, ranging corners? What style corner 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:44.920 do you want? But you absolutely can get those guys. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.200 I meant three, they're going to have their picks. So 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.640 it's a good time to do it. And we kind 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.040 of have to be able to live with some of 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.680 the growing pains early when you have a bunch of 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:56.760 young guys on the field, because they're going to make 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.080 their mistakes. But as Irvin said, if I can make 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.360 it where they're playing, we're letting this effort and they're 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.760 playing fast. They can't overcome some of their mistakes with 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.560 their effort. All right, This Jack Bars Happy Hour on 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:12.040 a Wednesday. J P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, John Osier. By 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.200 the way, should we keep this named happy Hour? I 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.400 think this thing aired at eight am, so I don't know. 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:26.679 Somewhere somewhere in the world, right, what what shall we 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:31.159 name this? Johnny gotta the ideas well. I'm not very happy, 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.440 so it's uh. I've always struggled with the name to 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:38.800 start with. Um, Yeah, I hadn't thought about it whole. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.880 It's uh, it's really an opportunity. I think we should 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.440 lean on Bucky's expertise. I think we should play something 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.360 off that name. I mean, he is the guy, he's 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.240 the star of the show. Star. I don't I don't know. 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:53.040 We can't use sticks because that part is brand No. 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.080 I kind of I kind of feel like I kind 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.320 of feel like I kind of feel like we're in 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:02.399 a huddle. How about the season behind the Oh no, 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:04.040 we don't want to do that. We did it all 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.080 last year. We did it all last year. We don't 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.639 want to be behind the change anymore. We don't have 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.480 to be in a two minutes the entire moving forward. 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.400 We're moving forward. Okay, Well, here's all we'll do. We'll 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.240 throw somebody's out in like a Twitter poll and see 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.640 what the people think, and then we'll come back next 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:23.879 week with a different We've got a few more topics 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.880 to get to today before we get out of here. Um, 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.200 Senior Bowl. You guys are both covering the Senior Bowl. John, 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.760 you were over there, Urban and Trent Bulky we're not 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.159 over there, but you're over there. And a lot of 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:40.480 Jaguars scouts obviously were involved over there this week Bucky 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:44.080 were covering on television from that room you're in right now. 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:48.920 I think was a different angle different, right, I mean, 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.480 how different is that when you're covering it but you're 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.760 not even there. Uh, it was a lot different. But 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.479 I will say this JP, I was a lot warmer. 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.160 I didn't have to worry about out what's the daily 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.560 weather report going to be? Like? I just clicked on 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.760 the light, turned on the monitor, and I was able 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.920 to watch practice. It looked like it was pretty though, 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.439 Like the weather looked like it was nice. Um the 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:14.080 new stadium that they played in Man nice. That was 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.119 a nice stadium. So it was cool. I mean, it 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.719 was good to see. I'm actually excited that they were 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:21.280 able to get it done because I was one of 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:24.040 those that I couldn't imagine how they were going to 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.840 make it happen with all the NFL personnel coming in, 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.680 all of the players coming from all over the country. 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:31.800 But they over there, they were able to do it, 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:33.600 and to do it without a hit. She was pretty good. 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.400 Tell you how they did it. Yeah, And a few 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:39.560 thoughts because I come at it from a different angle 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:41.320 when we go to the Steamer Bowl JP. As you know, 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:44.800 we are there and we talked to some of the 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:49.119 college players, but we're really not watching that event the 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:52.360 same way maybe Bucky is. It's why it's so important 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:55.640 to have Bucky, you know, involved, was because he's watching players, 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:59.200 he's breaking down film, he's watching these guys in the field. 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:03.879 When we're there, we're pursuing Jaguar stories. So most of 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:05.560 what I did the Senior Bowls, you know, j P 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:08.560 talk to people about the Jaguars, trying to talk to 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:13.920 some UH scouts, people who understand the game and can 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.080 provide that insight. Most years we wind up talking to 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.960 Bucky over there. You know. So you've been up. I 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:27.040 just logged up this podcast insider tip. I just almost 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:30.360 logged off, so um. But I can tell you why 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:35.000 it worked because the NFL people involved, we're committed to 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:37.480 making it work. And what I mean by that is 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:40.800 for fans who've never been there, the Senior Bowl is 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.080 what I call it garb Fest, meaning you can't walk 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.800 down the streets of Mobile and not see people in 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:50.040 their NFL guarden. And I'm talking from the time you 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.160 wake up anytime they're not at practice, you're you're seeing 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:55.400 on the streets of Mobile. We all know because we've 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:58.200 been there. You see them out at night, if you're eating, 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:00.879 you see them hanging out. It is a convention and 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.760 there's a couple of night spots that I've never been 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:05.720 to JP. I think it's a couple of I don't 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:09.400