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Speaker 1: What's up. It's way up with Angela yee. I'm here

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Speaker 1: and Jasmine Brand is here. I call you. Your name

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Speaker 1: is not really Jasmine Brand, that's your website, but Jasmine

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Speaker 1: from the Jasmine Brand is here, and Vernon Davis is here.

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Speaker 1: Actor extraordinary Vernon Davis. But um, you know we're here

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Speaker 1: to talk about you're in a movie that you're in,

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Speaker 1: which is exciting. The ritual Killer. I'm a little nervous

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Speaker 1: Like you have to go really deep and dark those

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Speaker 1: They said vernon, let me see, let me see you

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Speaker 1: That's not the craft, you know, because because when you crying,

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Speaker 1: your contracts? Like Queen Latifa cannot get killed in a movie? No,

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Speaker 1: I did my own stuns in the Ritual Killer. Okay,

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Speaker 1: like going broke because of bad investments. That's because they

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Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing or what they look for.

424
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Speaker 1: You just have to know what to look for and

425
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 1: what questions to ask, and what's what's available to you,

426
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Speaker 1: like um twenty percent discount, you know you want to.

427
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: I tend to go with companies that already have the momentum,

428
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Speaker 1: companies that have maybe have fifteen twenty million dollars valuation,

429
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Speaker 1: because if you invest in a startup, there's really no

430
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Speaker 1: you can't really tell what's going on. You don't know

431
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Speaker 1: what they expect. They're starting from the ground up. Why

432
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Speaker 1: do that when you can get in on something that

433
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Speaker 1: has momentum, And that's what I do. I try to

434
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Speaker 1: look at that and then and you know, I asked

435
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Speaker 1: what the what the exit strategy is? And I also

436
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: want to know how many employees they have? Just all

437
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: the right questions that you need to ask. And once

438
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Speaker 1: you understand how that works, and once you know who's

439
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: on who's on the board of advisory, who invested, then

440
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 1: that tells you a lot. If if I wh why

441
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: invest in the company? Um, if there's nobody it's like minded,

442
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,439
Speaker 1: or if there's an accredited investor that I know of,

443
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to. If that's not happening, I don't

444
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 1: want to invest in this company. But then you feel

445
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 1: more comfortable when you're like, oh, this person has a

446
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: successful track successful track record, they've invested in these other

447
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, companies that have done well, so I can

448
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Speaker 1: I can see that they've done their research. There's a

449
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Speaker 1: better chance. And do your own research too. Yeah, you

450
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 1: do your own research too, and then you it's all

451
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Speaker 1: who who's who's who's bringing it to you? Right right?

452
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Speaker 1: Who's Yeah, because you know how many people probably be like, Yo,

453
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Speaker 1: I got an idea, man, this idea. Can you give

454
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Speaker 1: me some money for this? All I need is if

455
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 1: it's an idea, I'm not investing that, I'm not investing. Yeah,

456
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm not going to invest in that I did unless

457
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 1: it has a twenty MILLIONAR evaluation. What's the biggest mistake

458
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Speaker 1: you've made business ever? The biggest mistake that I made

459
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Speaker 1: in business ever? Because you seem like you're really good

460
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: in business like making I mean I learned from me.

461
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: I learned through experience. I just learned just learning. Okay,

462
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: so you've never made any really big, big business mistakes.

463
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I have. I invested in this Ponzi scheme,

464
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: but I was just showing them. It was a it

465
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: was a bunch of athletes in it. Oh, be careful

466
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: when there's a bunch of athletes. You know, you lost

467
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. I lost a lot of money.

468
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Speaker 1: I lost about five hundred thousand. Yeah, there's guys that

469
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 1: lost millions. Yeah, but I wasn't. I I've always been conservative,

470
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Speaker 1: so I didn't put that much money in. Okay, Well,

471
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Speaker 1: you know what, that's a good life. Less it is,

472
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: and like sometimes those losses, but teaches you not to

473
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: make those mistakes again. Exactly. I bet it'll never happened again. Either,

474
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: It'll never happen again. It'll never happen again. Never happened again.

475
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Speaker 1: All right, Well again, tell us all the things that

476
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Speaker 1: you have coming up, because I know you have a

477
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: few different film projects. I sell you posting about it.

478
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 1: So let us know what we can look forward to

479
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: seeing Vernon Davis in Gosh, I think about that. I

480
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: want to prepare. Um, it's all running together. I'm saying,

481
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: the new one. You have, the new one with Morgan Freeman.

482
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: That's yeah, the new one, Tonic plan B Tonics coming out,

483
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: planing B. They Senior year, Senior year. Yet everything you say,

484
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: literally Gunner with Morgan Freeman that I'm about to hit to.

485
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Speaker 1: I actually have another movie that I'm flying to Lanta

486
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Speaker 1: on Saturday to shoot. Okay, last minute, it's like one

487
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: of those last minutes. Some A list is in it.

488
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna plug myself in. Come on some A list.

489
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: You gotta they gotta. You gotta build yourself up with

490
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Speaker 1: good people, are you absolutely right? Yeah? You learn and

491
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Speaker 1: you learn from them. So I take those those films

492
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: when they come across. Um. Also have a production company

493
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: called Workhorse Cinema in Tipton, Georgia. My partners, we did

494
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: We've done like for Bruce Willis movies out there. Damn.

495
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: That's how I started working with Bruce too. We did

496
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Speaker 1: Day to Die and Ali Okay, so I'm excited about that.

497
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: That's we always, you know, we always have some unique

498
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: projects coming through. Have you got a chance to talk

499
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: to him and or speak to him Bruce? Oh yeah,

500
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: that's my man. You could tell Bruce yeah, yeah, yeah.

501
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: We We spent a good We spent some great deal

502
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: of time together on set. He was he was phenomenal, phenomenal,

503
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: but he was going through some of the things that

504
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: he's dealing with. It was kind of winding down, but

505
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 1: he was. My experiences with him, you know, I wouldn't

506
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: trade it for anything. He was. He's just a beautiful person.

507
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: It's just beautiful. I was picking his brain watching them

508
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: on set and just seeing how he just jumped into

509
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: to those scenes so fast. It was amazing. Yeah, people

510
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: don't understand when somebody is so good at acting. You

511
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: don't even see the effort that it takes right because

512
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: they're too good at it, so it's so natural you

513
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: notice people look bad though you do. It's supposed to

514
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: look easy though, right, because then you're doing it right. Yeah,

515
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: it's supposed to look easy, but it looks like it's

516
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: a lot of effort. You're like, yeah, a lot of effort.

517
00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: But like to say, if you put the time and

518
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: if you look at time and everything, it's all about

519
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: being subtle. It's all about, you know, having it come

520
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: from the inside rather than the outside. And once you learned,

521
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: once you learned the twos, the techniques, and you'll be okay,

522
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: I got to learn. Well, thank you so much for

523
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: coming through. We really do appreciate it, and we want

524
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: to make sure everybody goes and watches the movie. We're

525
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: actually gonna I'm gonna make Jasmine watching even though she

526
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: don't like a scary movie. I love it The Ritual

527
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: Killer and stream that movie on BT plus two because

528
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: that looks good. Yes, um, Brianna A message from Brihanna.

529
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: Yea ya gotta check out this new song coming out

530
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: of call Phone. You're gonna appreciate it. Oh yeah, I

531
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: had this girl that I was dating. I had this girl,

532
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: this girl that I was dating. She us to go

533
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: through my phone all the time while I was sleep.

534
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting on I had this beat tone. Pie

535
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: sent me this beat tone. Pet my music producer, Right,

536
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: he sent me this beat and I was like, gosh,

537
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: okay phone, I ain't gonna do my phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

538
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: dope me and threeal black girl black on to come up.

539
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: He's amazing. You gotta hear you, gotta hear him on

540
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: this track. I thought I did good. Yeah, go back

541
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: to the phone, don't very releaf. Why is she? How

542
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: did she get in your phone? Well, she would go

543
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: through she was She would just go through my phone

544
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: and not when I was She didn't have a password

545
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: or anything on it. No, we trusted each other. And

546
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: what was she seeing when she went through your friend nothing.

547
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: She couldn't find anything because I wasn't just doing anything,

548
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: wasn't doing anything. I guess that's why. I guess that's

549
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: why she thought she could go through my phone because

550
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: I was giving her the password to my phone. But

551
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: she'd be up at night like this, and you caught her.

552
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm just like, what's going on? So

553
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: then I was like, I need to get line two.

554
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: Line two is a different line on my phone. So

555
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking to my grandmother. My mother say we have

556
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm having a conversation about her conversation. Yeah, she don't

557
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: need to see that because she can take it another way.

558
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: So I just bought line two. So on the on

559
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: the music, you hear me talk about line two. Isn't

560
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: ready to do break up over that? Ye still together?

561
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: Unfortunately we broke up over there. Um so I live

562
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: in DC. So we were listening to your song You're

563
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: from the DNB. Yeah so yeah, so um it does

564
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: everything go have like a go go field to with

565
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, not everything. That's that's how it

566
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: started out, because that's the that's how it grew up.

567
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: I grew up. Okay, where you where'd you where'd you

568
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: go to school? Go to school in Maryland? I went

569
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: to school in Washington, d C. Okay, in proper d Okay,

570
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: I got you people got no, yeah, very particularly okay.

571
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I have a house in northeast by

572
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: Fort Tide metro State, yes, right now, and then I

573
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: have an apartment um in southeast but like by Eastern Market.

574
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's what it's DC Proper. Yeah, but not

575
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: the it's like it's like the like the clothing line

576
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: DC Problem, DC Proper. Yeah, but no one. We were

577
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: so proud of your d because it's so all right. Okay,

578
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: so you're gonna put together a whole project, you think. Yeah,

579
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: we got an album called Showtime. Okay, you gotta hit

580
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: the music. Man of music is awesome. A lot of people,

581
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Yeah, that was my first That

582
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: was my first song. It kind of gave me wallet vibes.

583
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, like

584
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: pretty girls, she's so excited, You're like, okay, we like

585
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: they told me I did a song. I get Jay

586
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: told me produced something for me too. And Young Droe Okay,

587
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: that's my guy. Young Joe is like, yeah, he's the

588
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: studio just cracked. Tone, had to had to hook, and

589
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: he just came and started putting it out like this

590
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: is crazy. That's when I first started. I was like,

591
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: these dudes, just put piece of this together. This crazy

592
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: where happened? You're doing what you love Now we see

593
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: all the passion when you talk about the music, when

594
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 1: you're talking about the right. Yeah. No, it's very important

595
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: because you know somebody's favor phony. I guess it's important

596
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: and time to tell you see over time, like you

597
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: you tell you know someone serious about something, They're gonna

598
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: keep on going. They're not gonna give up. I feel

599
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: like he could turn into a killer at any second

600
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: right now on that. Thank you so much though, honestly,

601
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: and congratulations, Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. Where up