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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and this is our number two of the

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Speaker 2: Drive and Matt, I don't know if you saw this,

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Speaker 2: and it came out a couple of days ago. But

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Speaker 2: friend of the show, Cynthia Freeland, let's put out her

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Speaker 2: first official mock draft.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure she has a different spin on it's

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Speaker 3: Hers is very analytically driven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a different kind of look at the

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Speaker 3: That's a different curveball for us for the segment. Let's

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 2: So let's look at what Cynthia has.

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Speaker 3: Sure we joined us in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: She does usually she does. Yeah, that's why she's a

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Speaker 2: friend of the show.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So she has the Tennessee Titans at one taking Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's quite possible, or trading out or

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Speaker 2: Yeah. At two, she has the Browns taking Abdull Carter.

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Speaker 3: Okay, again quite possible, I mean, especially if Garrett's gone.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, at three, she has the Giants taking cam Ward.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's actually my exact same three so far too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're analytically driven with you ye draft. At four,

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Speaker 3: I think going O line there makes a ton of sense,

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Speaker 2: but they're probably going to have to dip into the

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Speaker 3: No, it's not gonna be cheap at all. Right.

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Speaker 2: At five, the Jacksonville Jaguars take John A. Barron going

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Speaker 3: Okay, I love him. I love him too. I mean,

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Speaker 2: At nine, she has the New Orleans Saints taking Shador Sanders,

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Speaker 2: Thirteen, the Dolphins take Malachai Starks, the safety out of Georgia.

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Speaker 3: No, they're thinking he's gonna make like twenty million years.

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Speaker 2: At fifteen, the Falcons stake Jaylen Walker the other Georgia

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Speaker 2: The Bengals at seventeen take Tedoroe McMillan, the Arizona wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: At eighteen, the Seahawks take Donovan Jackson, offensive lineman from

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Speaker 2: At twenty one, she has the Patriots taking a Mecca

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Speaker 2: At twenty three, the Packers take Walter Nolan, defensive tackle

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Speaker 2: At twenty four, the Vikings take Benjamin Morrison Notre Dame cornerback.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine, the Commanders take Luther Burden, the third wide

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of a chlorin and nobody else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in this scenario, I'm taking Walter Nolan.

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Speaker 3: It's like, this guy's got all the upside in the world.

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Speaker 2: It's the planet theory. Yeah, watch super big guys who

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Speaker 2: To me, Grant's going to be the guy who could

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. He could go to the if

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Speaker 2: Davis is a guy, And I know I've gotten this

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Speaker 2: No, what do you go thirteenth or something like that.

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Speaker 3: let's sit down with this guy and show him five plays.

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Speaker 3: Than there wasn't more all right, because he's capable. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson except no imitations. And Matt nick Shook

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Speaker 2: has put out his final quarterback rankings for the twenty

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Speaker 3: Seeds draft him I got okay, ran all.

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Speaker 2: Guy, all fifty nine players, fifty nine who started at

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Speaker 3: I guess we'll say I didn't know what the number

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Speaker 2: Number fifty nine, who Deshaun Watson that.

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Speaker 3: I bet he's not the worst quarterback that played terrible.

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Speaker 2: Seven games he averaged five point three yards per attempt.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at least this year. There wasn't like the

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Speaker 3: Ye, but oh he was horrible. Their offense was the

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Speaker 2: Uh fifty eight Tommy DeVito, that's who he is.

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Speaker 3: I guess he started the last game with I mean,

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Speaker 2: He had played in seven games, completed fifty one point

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Fifty five he's now a member of your Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Jake Hayner.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he's pretty terrible.

444
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 2: Forty six point two of his passes.

445
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 3: He looks like a high school player to me. Yeah,

446
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 3: I mean, or a coach.

447
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 2: Fifty three is Desmond Ritter.

448
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 3: He's flat out terrible too, and we talked about bad accuracy.

449
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 3: I don't think he's ever going to get it.

450
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 2: Fifty two Trey Lance.

451
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 3: Gotta. I mean, I don't know if his story is written,

452
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 3: but he hasn't done anything.

453
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 2: There's several chapters.

454
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, they're pretty deep into it now.

455
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 2: Fifty one Bailey's appy.

456
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's no worms right at all.

457
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 2: Fifty Brandon Allen with the forty nine ers.

458
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 3: I'll trying to think team on that one.

459
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Speaker 2: That's why I mentioned it.

460
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad that I didn't realize he was even

461
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 3: their number two. Yeah. Uh.

462
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 2: Forty nine Josh Dobbs started the game for the forty

463
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 2: nine Ers this year.

464
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 3: I root for him, but that's who he is. Forty

465
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 3: eight Tanner McKee. I think he's got a chance to

466
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 3: stick in the league. That's the first one. I'm have

467
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 3: a little bit of optimism for forty seven. Can he

468
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 3: pick it? I'm glad they put him next to each

469
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 3: other because I'm not sure the Eagles don't like McKey Betters.

470
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,199
Speaker 2: Forty six Jimmy Garoppolo.

471
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 3: He could be shot, probably will be in the league again,

472
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 3: but it's getting the point where that's a question. Yeah.

473
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 3: Same with Wentz for that matter.

474
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 2: Forty five Drew Locke.

475
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 3: A couple teams have liked him in the offseason and

476
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 3: pursued him, and I don't understand.

477
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 2: Why you don't get it. Yeah, yeah, at forty four

478
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 2: Jacobe Burssette.

479
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 3: I had higher hopes at one point, but I'm a fan.

480
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 3: He could be my backup all day long.

481
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Speaker 2: Five point one attempt.

482
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: He doesn't move well enough, part of the problem.

483
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 2: At forty three Andy Dalton.

484
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 3: He had a short stint there when he relieved Young

485
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 3: and did okay. At forty two Mac Jones, it wasn't

486
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 3: horrific for the jag See now, if somebody had said

487
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 3: the Steelers had called the Jaguars about mac Jones and

488
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: I don't think he's under contract, but no, he's up.

489
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, But if somebody had said, well, the Steelers inquired

490
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: about mac Johnes, that would have been more believable.

491
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 3: That would be more believable because it's not a one

492
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 3: hundred bazillion dollar cappit. He's another one though that he

493
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 3: doesn't move well enough.

494
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything has been just right around him. Forty one

495
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph.

496
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Speaker 3: That's fine. How about who he is? He's the fortieth

497
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: best quarterback out there.

498
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 2: At forty Joe Flacco.

499
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Speaker 3: I don't know that Levis was better than Rudolph.

500
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 2: I don't know that he is either. Number of the production.

501
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 3: Wasn't no, right, that's fine with Flacco. He's another one.

502
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: I wonder if he's gonna be back.

503
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Speaker 2: I disagree with this one a great deal. Thirty nine

504
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler.

505
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 3: It'd definitely be lower. I think there's a good chance

506
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 3: he's their starter next year. Yeah right, he's that's how

507
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 3: you tank.

508
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: Not good. No, in his defense, they had no weapons

509
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,239
Speaker 2: around them.

510
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: Oh no, the receivers at that point were bad.

511
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: He just he happened to be better than Jay Hayner.

512
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 3: Exactly, you know. And I'd rather take my chance with

513
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: Rattler than Hain. But that was a question there for

514
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. Who we start in between these two?

515
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: And it was his rookie year. I mean he's not Yeah,

516
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 3: he'll be in the league for a while. At thirty

517
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 3: eight Cooper Rush. That's a solid backup. That's a Rudolph

518
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 3: like backup that you can win games with. I mean

519
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 3: he was forced to play more than you want.

520
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: He had nine fumbles in twelve games.

521
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: Really, it's a lot. That's a lot.

522
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: Thirty seven Daniel Jones. Okay, well he'd be higher or

523
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 2: lower than that.

524
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Speaker 3: Next year. He's gonna I bet he gets in games.

525
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't have any doubt about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

526
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: kind of who he is. Thirty six Gardner minshew, Yeah,

527
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: that's that neighbor, is what he is? Uh, thirty five

528
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson.

529
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: That's fair, It's that's absolutely fair.

530
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: I mean you get eleven game sample this year.

531
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't like I mean that rookie year. He

532
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 3: didn't finish one game.

533
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty seven point seven percent completion percentage or eight

534
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: touchdown passes, twelve interceptions and oh, by the way, nine

535
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: fumbles and eleven.

536
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 3: It was benched, you know, like Bryce Young and wasn't

537
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 3: really better when he came back. Yeah, he had some

538
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 3: highlight plays, but they were all like week one. Yeah,

539
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: I was remember all the bombs that.

540
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 2: Like Piers Yeah, uneven and yeah, every once in a

541
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: while he'll hit one.

542
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: But I still think he's their opening day starter next year.

543
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they what they spent on him. Yeah, that

544
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that he's any good.

545
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't, but it does make me a little

546
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: crazy that you draft him. You have to know he's

547
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Speaker 3: a project. Yeah, you know, boy, he is.

548
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: Thirty four is Tyler Huntley.

549
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: That might be rich.

550
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 2: That's pretty rich for me again, at right, five games

551
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: completed sixty four point seven percent of his passes, which

552
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: is fine.

553
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's all sideways Minshew or Rudolph maybe.

554
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: Three touchdown passes, three interceptions, one hundred and thirty five

555
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 2: rushing yards, and six fumbles.

556
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 3: I know he's not great, but I'd put Daniel Jones

557
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 3: over every name we've mentioned so far.

558
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's.

559
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: Had success as a starter.

560
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: Put him over this next guy at thirty three, Will Levis. Yeah,

561
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is better than Will Lewis.

562
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I mean if you told me one of

563
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: those two had to lead the Steelers next year, I'm

564
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: taking Daniel go ahead. I mean, it's not I'm driving.

565
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: I'm driving my car into the mane. Uh. Thirty two

566
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Speaker 2: Jamis Winston.

567
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: I almost said Levis is Winston? Is Winston a starter

568
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 3: in the league next year. I'm leaning towards Jess because

569
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: thirty two names are hard to come by. I know,

570
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: you know, I'm at least he's going to be him

571
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 3: and Jackson Dark battling it out, you know, one of

572
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 3: those type of deals. I still think he can win games. Yeah,

573
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 3: he can also lose you games. Yeah, I mean he's

574
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 3: shown that over the course. I mean, he's not a

575
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: young man, least his tenth year in the league, and

576
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 3: he has shown that he is a roller coaster ride. Yeah,

577
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 3: and which.

578
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: Sometimes it is not so much fun.

579
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: And I'm sure he's been brought up to you as

580
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 3: you know, bring him here. Tomlin could not handle nor

581
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: should he. No, for the way the Steelers are constructed,

582
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 3: not here, I'm not aware though, I'm not sure either.

583
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 3: And maybe he holds place down for the Jets, you know,

584
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 3: and they kind of tack it or you know.

585
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty one Malik Willis.

586
00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 3: They managed him well. Yeah, I think he's a semi

587
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: success story considering how well turnovers last year appeared in

588
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: seven games. That's the beauty of It's lose it for him.

589
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would.

590
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 3: I mean, if I would take my chances to win

591
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 3: a game with Winston or Jones over oh.

592
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've done it more than him. But yeah,

593
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: I think.

594
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 3: But what he put on tape wasn't bad.

595
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: But you have to play a very specific way with him.

596
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

597
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: Thirty Michael Pennix, small sample size.

598
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: I think people got a little too excited about him.

599
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 3: It wasn't all of roses, no, but it's a good start.

600
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: And showed some flashes.

601
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

602
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: Twenty nine Aiden O'Connell.

603
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 3: It's about who he is too.

604
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I mean, i'd take him over Minshew right now,

605
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, right now, he's He's the Raiders

606
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: opening day starter if they don't do anything. Twenty eight

607
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. I think the numbers, the overall numbers, look

608
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: better than actually what he did on the field.

609
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 3: There were some highlights. I mean, if you just went

610
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 3: to highlight tape, you'd think he's on ten.

611
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: But the low lights are just I mean some of

612
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: the well, the sacks, game management and things of that

613
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: nature were not good.

614
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 3: I know he was a great prospect and I understand that,

615
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: but the USC everybody blamed him the terrible lineman. I'm like,

616
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: USC can't get lineman. Maybe it's a down year for

617
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: USC lineman, but yeah, it's not like he's at Kent

618
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 3: playing Ohio State every week. I mean, he should have

619
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: adequate lineman at USC.

620
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: And he took a ton of a ton of sacks,

621
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: ten fumbles. Now, he had twenty touchdown passes and six interceptions,

622
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: but let's right, I think he had a five touchdown

623
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: pass game or so.

624
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: There was a game or two where it's like, Okay,

625
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: so he's.

626
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: Figured it out. Then you watch him later in the

627
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: season you're.

628
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: Like, I'm not particularly worried about his career. But it

629
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: wasn't the best first chapter. He wasn't smooth sailing, no,

630
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: by any stretch. And the offensive coordinator got fired halfway

631
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: through the year or two. I mean, yeah, head coach got.

632
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: Fired twenty seven justin Fields.

633
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: I think I'd take him over everybody mentioned, you know,

634
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: for what they did last year. I mean, I'd rather

635
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: go forward with Caleb Williams, but that's not the question.

636
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, at twenty six, Trevor Lawrence, it's been rough. It's

637
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: been rough, bad year.

638
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 3: He's had a bad stretch. I mean, you can explain

639
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: a lot of it away, but there's some bad tape

640
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: and turnovers and are problematic.

641
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just inconsistent, and you would expect by now,

642
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: I mean he's this was year four.

643
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: He needs to be a step ahead of that.

644
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: You would expect, you know, for a guy who was

645
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: had drafted as highly as he was, that he would

646
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: be more like, he's closer to Sam Bradford than he is. Actually,

647
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: he'd be better off being Sam Bradford.

648
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: It's funny rob Sam Bradford because I almost just did,

649
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: because the first four years of Bradford's career were similar.

650
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: They're not the same type of player, but I could

651
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: be the prosecuting attorney or the defense attorney and have

652
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: probably an equal case. You know, like they've had to

653
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: overcome a lot, but they sure what we thought they

654
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: were with the first overall pick. No, you know, like

655
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: I'm hoping Caleb Williams doesn't do the same thing, you know,

656
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: but that's not uncommon.

657
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: Twenty five is Kirk Cousins.

658
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: There was a stretch he wasn't so terrible. I mean,

659
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: it's easier. Remember you look at them, just the final numbers.

660
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: I bet they're decent.

661
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: Fourteen games, sixty six point nine percent completion percentage, thirty

662
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: five hundred passing yards, twenty eight touchdowns, six interceptions. Yeah,

663
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm they him with five hundred and thirty one rushing yards.

664
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: That is a mistake. There's a way it had to

665
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: be like, it had to be closer to fifty three.

666
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way they sign.

667
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: Up for twelve rushing touchdown. I don't know whose stats

668
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 2: they got in there for Kirk Cousins.

669
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: That is, he didn't have five hundred and thirty one

670
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: rushing yards and twelve touchdown rushing in his career. In

671
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: his career, I wonder if his passing numbers are correct,

672
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: then he was at the wrong face on the I

673
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: think he'll be one of the thirty two starters. I'm

674
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 3: not implying the Steelers should grab him at the league minimum,

675
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: but I bet he's one of the thirty two stars.

676
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: I would guess, so, Yeah, he also might be shot.

677
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: It could be at twenty four. Derek Carr, it's about right.

678
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: I like him slightly more than that, but I mean.

679
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: If you just look at his final numbers again, you're

680
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: just looking at the numbers. It was ten games, sixty

681
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: seven point seven percent completion percentage, twenty one hundred and

682
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: forty five passing yards, seven point seven yards per attempt.

683
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: I mean he was throwing it down the field a little.

684
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: Bit to Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Shaheed.

685
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: Fifteen touchdown passes, five interceptions, seventy one rushing yards, one

686
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: rushing touchdown, only three fumbles. I mean he took care

687
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: of the football.

688
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: The back of his football card always looks a little

689
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: bit better than what tape. Yeah, yeah, mean, it just

690
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: always is with him because there's a lot of third

691
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: that he throws at the five yards downfield. And but

692
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: I still think he should probably be a little higher

693
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: on that list. I mean, he's a professional starting quarterback.

694
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: I bet a lot of those numbers came those first

695
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: two weeks. Remember those first two weeks they put up

696
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: like eighty points. Yeah, and took the world by storm.

697
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: And then but the best offense ever and then yeah,

698
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: right right, yeah, But if we say this about Rattler

699
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: and those guys too, he didn't much around him the year.

700
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: Everybody early in the year they did that, they did,

701
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: they did.

702
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: Twenty three Russell Wilson, I'd.

703
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: Have him of everyone listed didn't end great, we all

704
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: know that. Yeah, accuracy is better than you think. I'd

705
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: probably have him higher.

706
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: Twenty two Aaron Rodgers.

707
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: He finished a lot better than people wanted to remember

708
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: and their their season was shot. But his last couple

709
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: of games padded his stats a bit, but they count.

710
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's also the king of the one yard touchdown passing.

711
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: Some of those that get those touchdown passes.

712
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: Up, I think Wilson had a better year, yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah.

713
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: Twenty one Drake May. Now that's a tough you, val.

714
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a fan of Drake May. I love him.

715
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be, you know, a good quarterback.

716
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: Was nothing around you though, he's still.

717
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: In thirteen games through ten interceptions, that had nine fumbles, like.

718
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, there's still a lot of volatility to him.

719
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: And yeah that was even true in North Carolina. I

720
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: mean that's who he is. I would love to build

721
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: a team around him. But if you were just evaluating,

722
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: he'd be lower in the list. I don't know if

723
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: the Steelers win more games with him than they do Wilson,

724
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

725
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, now again, if it's who you want to have

726
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: moving forward.

727
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: Okay, as much highering the list.

728
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: R twenty.

729
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: Started slow but ended up being quite a success story.

730
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of his bad numbers of those

731
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: first couple of weeks.

732
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think it's just very much the offense.

733
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: That he's more of a risk taker though than like

734
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: a car And he's a much better athlete.

735
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 2: No, he's a better athlete than I thought, Yes for sure. Yeah.

736
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: Uh nineteen Dak Prescott, Oh, how mean games did he played?

737
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 3: Eight? Oh? I would think it was like five or six.

738
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: In eight games, he threw for nineteen hundred and seventy

739
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: eight yards, averaged six point nine yards per pass attempt,

740
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: eleven touchdowns, eight interceptions, say, and also had four fumbles.

741
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: It seems like a million years ago since he.

742
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: Played, so he basically averaged a turnover and a half

743
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: per game.

744
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it was high this year. Usually it's

745
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: not that insane. I don't know where I put him.

746
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: It wasn't great, though, No, it wasn't eighteen is tua

747
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: that goo vy loa?

748
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 3: They had no running game.

749
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: That's about fair seventeen Kyler Murray.

750
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I bet Arizona's not thrilled about that.

751
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: I think they would be either. Yeah, like he to

752
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: take him number one overall. And if you look at

753
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: his rankings per year, twenty nineteen, he was thirteenth, twenty twenty,

754
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: he was ten twenty twenty one, he was eighth twenty

755
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: twenty two, sixteens, twenty twenty three, twenty third.

756
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: I feel like he needs to be eighth, tenth, twelve to.

757
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: Be Yeah, you know now, I think they're probably happier

758
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: with him than maybe what the Jaguars are with Trevor

759
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: Lawrence right.

760
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: Now, probably, but I kind of trust Lawrence. If any

761
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: either one's going to ever be a top eight guy. Yeah,

762
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 3: that I think Lawrence that still is a better chance.

763
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: Kyler seems like he is who he is.

764
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: That's he's kind of plateaued.

765
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and his size is a problem.

766
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sixteen Bryce Young, Wow, I don't know if I

767
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: have Bryce Young this high.

768
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: The beginning was so bad.

769
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: The beginning was really bad. So he got bat for

770
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: Andy Dalton.

771
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: He finished at about sixteen.

772
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: He played Okay, it wasn't like, oh, his groundbreaking, but

773
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: sixteen is.

774
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: The last two months or so. We're quite good. We're

775
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 3: sixteen ish. Yeah, if you look at the whole body

776
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: of work, I mean he was like fiftieth. Yeah.

777
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: I don't know that he's necessarily out of the woods yet.

778
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: I mean towards he is, I think he's better. Yeah,

779
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: but he might be closer to Kyler Murray than he is. Yeah,

780
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: breaking into the top ten.

781
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: I agreed with that. I don't know if he's going

782
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: to be ever a top ten guy.

783
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: Fifteen CJ.

784
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 3: Stroud I feel for him a little bit, but he

785
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 3: was as much of the problem as he was the answer. Boy.

786
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 3: They couldn't pick up a blitz or a stunt or

787
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 3: do anything. I'm not worried about him.

788
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: Fourteen Bruck Purty Fair wasn't as good this year's.

789
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't.

790
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't have all the weapons around him, and

791
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: suddenly he didn't look like the second coming of Tom Brady.

792
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: I don't know a problem where he's ranked though, No,

793
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: that's fine. Yeah.

794
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: Thirteen is Sam Darnold.

795
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: That's fair.

796
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 2: I mean his highest ranking in his career. He's twenty

797
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: four to twenty six, thirty six, forty two, thirty eight,

798
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: fifty five thirteen. Hut hut.

799
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: I'm not going to hold the last two games against

800
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: him so much. I mean he had fifteen very very

801
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: good games.

802
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: Twelve is Gino Smith.

803
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: That's fine. I think he's criminally underrated, so that's about

804
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: where he belot of interceptions though for guys. They didn't

805
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: run the ball with a lick either.

806
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: Which is surprising because they have two good backs.

807
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: They do, but interior line is bad and I think

808
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: their college coordinator was over matched.

809
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: Eleven Justin Herbert.

810
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he needs to be five, but that's about where

811
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: he was this year. Yeah, plays a lot of injuries.

812
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: Ten is Jordan Love.

813
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: They need him to be a little higher too, but

814
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 3: I think he's trending there. Yeah, too many mistakes. Yeah,

815
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: he's a bit of a roller coaster.

816
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: Nine Jalen Hurts.

817
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know how much they're gonna wait the

818
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 3: super Bowl and yeah, it's not just a regular season award.

819
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: I imagine it came out to talk about this.

820
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: He shouldn't have been the MVP of the super Bowl.

821
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: No, but you would have given it the sweat.

822
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: You would have had to pick somebody off that defense.

823
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 3: That's the thing is they all kind of cancel each other.

824
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 3: There's not one that stood out more than the other. Yeah,

825
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 3: other Hurts played a fine.

826
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: It's probably been my vote.

827
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, in mine too.

828
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: But eight Matthew Stafford.

829
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the lowest I would have him.

830
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 2: Seven Patrick Mahomes.

831
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: That's kind of season he had. Yeah, I mean, no

832
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 3: deep presence.

833
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: He did finish with forty six hundred passing yards and

834
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: thirty one touchdowns. K we're talking about this.

835
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah right, and that is kind of a

836
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: down years.

837
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: His lowest, lowest ranking in his career.

838
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: Still pretty good. Yeah.

839
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 2: Six Baker Mayfield.

840
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: He had a really good year. There's still two. He's

841
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: closer to Gino the volatility. Eighteen games, he had sixteen

842
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: interceptions and fourteen fumbles, and that reared its head in

843
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 3: the playoffs, like, yeah, they're playing well and then all

844
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 3: of a sudden he decides to jam the ball into

845
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: the cross, like into it. Somebody wouldn't be real comfortable

846
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 3: if he was my starting quarter. No, no, I mean

847
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: you could do a lot worse.

848
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: He had a good season. I'm not taking anything away

849
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: from him. But six, No, No, I had a Patrick Mahomes, Right, I.

850
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: Mean I would have ahead of her.

851
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: Would you rather play against?

852
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah? Right?

853
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 2: Five Jayden Daniels, every bit of it. Four Jared Goff, I'd.

854
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: Probably have Daniels had a golf. Yeah, it's pretty good

855
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: factor in the running.

856
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: Three Joe Burrow.

857
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. The top three I think are heads above everybody

858
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: else for what they did this year.

859
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: To Josh Allen and one Jackson.

860
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, those three had the best three years easily.

861
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: Hard to believe. Like Lamar in twenty twenty one was

862
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: fourteen and twenty twenty two was twelve.

863
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 3: Where was Alan? I bet he was really low a

864
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: year or two.

865
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: Allen's gone thirty Two's rookie year eighteen five, three four to.

866
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 3: Two now two top five every year. Yeah, okay, it

867
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 3: was Mahomes one one, one, one, one eight.

868
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 2: Like Mahomes was, uh, you're looking at let's see here.

869
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: Mahomes didn't start again that. They didn't rank him in

870
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: twenty seven ten. Yeah, one two three, seven, one three.

871
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: So he's only been one twice. Really, it can be

872
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: only one. It's like the Highlander.

873
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: I mean there's some Brady years in there. Rogers won

874
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: an MVP or two in that stretch. Yeah, I mean

875
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 3: people have big years. Yeah, so Lamar was MVP right

876
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: a year ago. Yeah, it's hard to be number one,

877
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: it is.

878
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: It is, as we find out, only one team gets

879
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 2: to win the Super Bowl and only one quarterback gets

880
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: to be ranked number one.

881
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was Nick Shook's rankings. It's not easy rank, No,

882
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: it's not. It's a project. There.

883
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: You're talking about some guys that have some very short windows,

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Speaker 2: and even like Dak Prescott worthy, but King ranking Bryce Young. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you have to look at the entire picture there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, some guys got to play into the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: some didn't. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyways, let's get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Driver on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and now I will be

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Speaker 2: back to finish up the show right after this.

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Speaker 3: At least.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and uh, this is the Drive. And you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was thinking about combines. It's not

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Speaker 2: going to be the combine week and then I misspoke.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and leave us comments. Matt, looking here at

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Speaker 2: the salary cap status here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: For the teams in the league, I mentioned that the

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Speaker 2: Patriots have a lot of cap space one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty one million dollars in cap space.

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Speaker 3: Pretty crazy.

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Speaker 2: They have fifty four players currently under contract. So you

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Speaker 2: have some other teams out there. For example, Vegas is

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Speaker 2: at ninety two million, they also have fifty four players

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Speaker 2: under contract.

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Speaker 3: Wash number under contract matter it matters.

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Speaker 2: For example, Washington has forty six players under contracts, but

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Speaker 2: they have the third most salary cap space at seventy

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Speaker 2: nine point five, but you have eight fewer players under

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Speaker 2: con track.

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Speaker 3: So therefore I think they have like twenty eight free

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Speaker 3: agents that played prominent levels or something like that too.

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Speaker 3: Some of these dudes under contract aren't going to make

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Speaker 3: the team.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers our fourth with sixty five million dollars in

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Speaker 2: cap space. They have forty five players under contract.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's sort of a low number. Two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get Chicago with sixty four point eight million dollars,

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Speaker 2: they have forty eight players under contract. The Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 2: have sixty three million dollars in cap space. They have

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Speaker 2: sixty players under contract.

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Speaker 3: Wow, good for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again no, not all stars, and so there's

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Speaker 2: going to be more cap displacement and signings. And this

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Speaker 2: guy goes So they actually have more cap space than

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Speaker 2: what you might think because.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, again, I forget exactly the verbage for it, but

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Speaker 3: it's really your top fifty three obviously the matters. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if you're the sixtieth guy, you're not counting against the cap,

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Speaker 3: even though you are right now, because you're not on

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Speaker 3: the team.

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Speaker 2: You know, Minnesota has fifty eight point six million dollars,

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Speaker 2: they have fifty four players under under contract. Detroit has

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Speaker 2: fifty not the right one, not the right ones. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Detroit has fifty three players under contract, fifty five million

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Speaker 2: dollars in cap space. Tennessee has forty nine points eight

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Speaker 2: but they have forty eight players under contract. So if

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Speaker 2: we get to the Steelers, the Steelers have thirty seven

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Speaker 2: point three million dollars, this according to spot track right now,

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Speaker 2: right right, but they have fifty eight players under contract.

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Speaker 3: That's a big number.

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Speaker 2: That's a big number.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you're gonna have some signings. When you sign

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Speaker 2: a guy, there's gonna be that cap displacement where Okay,

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Speaker 2: this guy who's on the camp for one point two million,

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Speaker 2: well we signed this guy for four We really know

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Speaker 2: he gets bumped off. Yeah, you really only took it

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Speaker 2: three point eight million or two point eight million dollars

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Speaker 2: in cap space, and.

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Speaker 3: They have a lot of dudes that are definitely gonna

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Speaker 3: be a camp next year. Yeahah, that is a big number.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that part.

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Speaker 2: The Saints, as we mentioned, sixty million dollars over the

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Speaker 2: cap their last their last, but they do have sixty

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Speaker 2: one players under contract.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, okay, but again they can't just cut like if

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Speaker 3: they cut their top ten, it doesn't help them most

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Speaker 3: expensive guys on their roster.

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Speaker 2: They actually lose money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they do. I mean because the way they

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Speaker 3: just kick the can down, the credit cards are max

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Speaker 3: to the gills.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland's in the same boat exactly. Cleveland's thirty four million

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Speaker 2: dollars over the cap. They have fifty nine players under contract.

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Speaker 2: But again, though some of those guys don't help them

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Speaker 2: financially by cutting them. No, they're gonna have to go

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Speaker 2: back to the bank of Deshaun Watson again and maybe

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Speaker 2: kick the can down the road even farther and have

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Speaker 2: more avoidable year. They're gonna eat that contract for it

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Speaker 2: was a four year deal. They're going to end up

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Speaker 2: paying him for twelve years.

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Speaker 3: Probably, right. I guess it came out today with no surprise.

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Speaker 3: Garrett said he would restructure his contract to help facilitate

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Speaker 3: a trade.

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Speaker 2: He wants out, But yeah, he's going to have to

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Speaker 2: do that to make it viable for Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: I can't stress enough what bad shape the Browns and

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Speaker 3: Stints are.

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Speaker 2: Seattle is nineteen point three million dollars over the cap,

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Speaker 2: Buffalo is eighteen point nine million dollars over the cap.

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Speaker 2: Miami fifteen point eight million dollars over the cap with

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Speaker 2: only with only fifty players signed.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it makes you think about Tyreek and Metcalf and

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Speaker 3: some of these teams are gonna get a little desperate

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Speaker 3: here in the coming week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one thing, like these other teams that are

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Speaker 2: way over the cap have sixty players under contract. Miami's

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Speaker 2: way over the cap.

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Speaker 3: They have fifty.

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Speaker 2: They have ten fewer than the other teams that we've

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Speaker 2: talked about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and those guys aren't well some of them I

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Speaker 3: guess are rookies in lower deals. But still there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of million dollar contracts in there.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta's over the cap, Dallas is over the cap, Tampa

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Speaker 2: Bay is over the cap, and Houston is over the cap.

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Speaker 3: I don't even think cutting Kirk Cousins gives them relief either.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it does either, because they just signed

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Speaker 2: him and he gave him you know, right, right right,

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Speaker 2: They just got a dead mind, like the bullet exactly. Yeah. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk more about that as we get closer to

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Speaker 2: like the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: A lot of these teams are going to manipulate that stuff,

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Speaker 3: of course.

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Speaker 2: And right now we're talking about estimated cap space. We

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Speaker 2: won't know for sure until the actual number comes out

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Speaker 2: here in the next couple of weeks. With these teams

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Speaker 2: that they don't even know exactly what they're dealing with.

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Speaker 2: Tracked wonderful work, but it's not it's not exact science.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the league off right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyways, that's going to do it for today's show.

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Speaker 2: So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

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Speaker 2: on site making sure everything sounds great and running the

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Speaker 2: Justin Miller hotline, and for Tevin Dandridge here making sure

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Speaker 2: our video on YouTube looks great. Best you can do

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Speaker 2: with this, best he can do with it. Anyways, I

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Speaker 2: am Dale, Lolly. We thank you for listening to this

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Speaker 2: edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.