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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out

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Speaker 1: with us. We are spanning the country today. Buck in

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Speaker 1: New York City. I am in LA for the week

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl getting closer and closer. Brams and Bingals going

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Speaker 1: head to head. We have been breaking down so many

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Speaker 1: crazy stories out there, the Canadian trucker battle and what

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Speaker 1: it means for freedom in this country. Stacy Abrahams with

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Speaker 1: one of the dumbest moves of any Southern politician in

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Speaker 1: modern history that I can think of, at least related

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Speaker 1: to COVID making the decision to get her picture taken

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Speaker 1: wearing no mask while she's surrounded by kids all wearing mask.

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Speaker 1: Will continue to talk about that, the Joe Rogan implosion

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Speaker 1: at Spotify and what it means going forward for cancel culture.

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Speaker 1: And also so much of the mainstream media deciding to

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Speaker 1: cover for China related to the Winter Olympics being underway,

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Speaker 1: even if many of you are deciding to tune them

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Speaker 1: out as the Winter Olympics are setting all time record

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Speaker 1: blows for viewership. As we have ever seen before. But

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Speaker 1: I want to start with this. We talked some buck

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Speaker 1: about Joe Rogan in the first hour and late last night.

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Speaker 1: For some of you who may have missed this, Spotify

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Speaker 1: CEO came out and basically wrote a long form piece

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Speaker 1: where he essentially said, Hey, we're going to contribute one

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars more towards different I guess less distributed

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Speaker 1: potentially minority programming. But I was having a conversation, like

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Speaker 1: I bet a lot of you were as well, about

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Speaker 1: cancel culture in the wake of would Be Goldberg and

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Speaker 1: sort of the chaos of the past week and everybody

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Speaker 1: coming for Joe Rogan, the Rock who a lot of

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Speaker 1: you know, Dwayne Johnson initially comes out and says that

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Speaker 1: he's supportive of Rogan, and then he changes his mind.

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Speaker 1: And then people start going through all of the Rocks

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Speaker 1: comments over the years and pointing out that he said

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Speaker 1: a lot of questionable and I'm using my quotation mark

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Speaker 1: fingers there things over the years in WWE and online.

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Speaker 1: A lot of clips. Buck, I know you saw this.

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Speaker 1: Howard Stern, who now is in the good graces of

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Speaker 1: unbelievable language in multiple skits. Those video feeds were circulating

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, and so I had this conversation with my wife,

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Speaker 1: and I bet a lot of people out there did

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Speaker 1: as well. Spotify is interesting. Are you a subscriber to Spotify? Buck?

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Speaker 1: Do you pay for a subscription on Spotify right now?

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Speaker 1: I do? Okay? So, I mean they have like a

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Speaker 1: hundred million people out there who subscribe to Spotify. My

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Speaker 1: wife would greatly prefer the iHeart app. However, my wife

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Speaker 1: will look a lot of times because she does she

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Speaker 1: does training and everything else to see what songs are trending.

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Speaker 1: And she pointed out that while people are supposedly outraged

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Speaker 1: by Joe Rogan, well over half of the top artist

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Speaker 1: songs or their rap music or whatever else with virtually

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Speaker 1: no discussion of it at all. And even if you

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Speaker 1: is in it was discussing well, so fascinating was the left.

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Speaker 1: If you remember, Buck, do you remember the two Life

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Speaker 1: crew battle that went all the way to the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court over what was and was not considered to be

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Speaker 1: explicit lyrics. Even back in the day, if you remember

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Speaker 1: only should this guy be censored, many of them are

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Speaker 1: that now they are the censorious forces in our culture.

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Speaker 1: Because I don't believe Clay that this was ever rooted

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Speaker 1: structure that they then seek to supplant with their own.

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Speaker 1: You look at leftist, I mean by the way we're

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Speaker 1: like somebody who advocates for democracy, you know, one vote,

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Speaker 1: and just on the usage of the word that we're

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Speaker 1: little bit like you know, the way that you you know,

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Speaker 1: you have to mask up on playing or else. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can't say this word in any context if you

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Speaker 1: out of you know, public life, and everyone saying you're

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Speaker 1: horrible and a racist. And when I say, in any context,

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Speaker 1: as you what I've talked about Court Stenographer reading back,

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Speaker 1: people will get upset at someone you are to replace

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Speaker 1: the word you're not allowed to say. I disagree in

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Speaker 1: principle that there can be words that some people are

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Speaker 1: And other people if they even say the word not

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Speaker 1: in a context as a pejorative or to attack somebody,

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Speaker 1: if they merely quote someone, their life should be destroyed.

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Speaker 1: This is about power, friends, This is about who has

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Speaker 1: it and who does it. Because you cannot believe in

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Speaker 1: the First Amendment and free speech as a principle and

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Speaker 1: crazy when you think about it. And there's no other

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Speaker 1: But buck when I wrote my most recent book, I

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Speaker 1: quoted Muhammad Ali. It's called Republicans by Sneakers too, and

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Speaker 1: And my editor said, hey, are you sure you want

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Speaker 1: The goal is to talk to people as adults and

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Speaker 1: buck where I would say, I'm so fascinated by sort

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Speaker 1: Howard Stern, if you watch private parts, if you studied

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Speaker 1: anything that he did, he was wildly more offensive than

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Speaker 1: anything Joe Rogan has ever said. I think what happens

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Speaker 1: is the culture has evolved. Howard Stern knows all the

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Speaker 1: things that he did in his past. He sees the

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Speaker 1: power of cancel culture. And I believe a guy like

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Speaker 1: Howard Stern has made a calculated decision to go far

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Speaker 1: we'll call woke insurance. Because if he's out there saying

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Speaker 1: then he believes that the cancel culture maniacs are not

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Speaker 1: about today, Clay, whether it's COVID madness or cancel culture

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Speaker 1: and the impact of remember the woke control the apparatus

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Speaker 1: We need a counter strike against the madness of the

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Speaker 1: last few years. And I really think in many ways

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Speaker 1: lib he's a climate change obsessed you know, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: And was a fan in the early days of Biden.

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Speaker 1: And he's going to shut down COVID Clay. He just

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Speaker 1: to be. And I'm not even sure you can say

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Speaker 1: these days it really is a free country. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: why twenty twenty two is so important. Buck, That's why

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two needs to be an utter destruction because

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Speaker 1: there have to be consequences for your kids having to

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Speaker 1: There have to be consequences for the labeling of essential

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Speaker 1: the propaganda. And I wonder on some level, hey, is

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Speaker 1: this coming from Disney, that they're so stupid that they

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Speaker 1: would even make that argument and that nobody would push

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Speaker 1: back against it. There are two very big components of

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Speaker 1: all this that I think when everyone, when all of

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Speaker 1: our people right now listening with us across the country,

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Speaker 1: keep in mind this all it all adds up right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's on principle that's ridiculous. It shows

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Speaker 1: what a bunch of phonies they are. But you have

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Speaker 1: to remember the whole point of so much of the

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Speaker 1: corporate virtue signaling that went on, let's say, with Black

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Speaker 1: Lives Matter as a movement was built around two things,

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Speaker 1: virtue signaling and fear right. You get points for this

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Speaker 1: among your peers in America. People think if you're you know,

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Speaker 1: the executive who's running a company and you put out

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Speaker 1: a statement. I remember some of the companies I can't

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Speaker 1: even well, I feel like, you know, tide makes the

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Speaker 1: detergent and you know, oh yeah, I mean they were

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Speaker 1: we stand with some Black Lives Matter. I got an

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Speaker 1: email from Chewy, you know, because we buy stuff for

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Speaker 1: our animals, Like, do I need to know what the

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Speaker 1: pet food company thinks about Black Lives Matter? So we know.

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Speaker 1: But it's important to establish this because we know that

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Speaker 1: corporate America does pretend that it will mobilize on purely

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Speaker 1: human rights and humanitarian grounds. But it's a fraud. And

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Speaker 1: that's why the China thing is so interesting because whether

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Speaker 1: it's ESPN or any number of other companies, and we're

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Speaker 1: talking about what's going on in China to the Chinese

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Speaker 1: people in terms of the repression, the one child policy,

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Speaker 1: for sterilization. You add on top of that all of

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Speaker 1: that as well, and that's been going on for decades,

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Speaker 1: the mass starvation of Mao's Great lead Forward and the

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Speaker 1: Great Famine in recent memory, folks, this is back in

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Speaker 1: the sixties. This isn't that long ago. You add all

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Speaker 1: this together, the crimes of the Chinese Communist Party, and

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Speaker 1: you say to yourself, this is a monstrous regime and

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Speaker 1: is still doing monstrous things today. Why not speak out

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Speaker 1: against them? Well, because the corporations that mobilize in support

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Speaker 1: of BLM, they want to look cool in front of

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Speaker 1: their friends and peers, and they also don't want to

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Speaker 1: lose access to the Chinese market. Point here being, they

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Speaker 1: don't take a stand out of bravery, they're actually taking

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Speaker 1: a stand out of self interest. And all these companies

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Speaker 1: that sit there now and say nothing about China are

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Speaker 1: just exposing at some level they're cowardice actually, because why

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Speaker 1: not why not do something here? Why not say that

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Speaker 1: what's going on in China is reprehensible? At least put

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Speaker 1: out one of those what do you say, Chew? You know, Chewy.

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Speaker 1: At least Chewy should put out a we stand with

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Speaker 1: human rights in China, so we know where Chewi stands

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Speaker 1: on that issue. But no, apparently not Buck. By the way,

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Speaker 1: does this stun you as somebody who hasn't paid a

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Speaker 1: lot of attention to sports like you would expect maybe

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Speaker 1: a conversation like that to take place on MSABC or

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Speaker 1: CNN with one of their guest experts. But ESPN, this

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Speaker 1: is ostensibly a sports network and they are totally espousing

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Speaker 1: Chinese propaganda, and many people out there watching it are not,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, like really paying attention to geopolitical issues,

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Speaker 1: which to me makes the propaganda land even better, right,

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Speaker 1: because you aren't realizing the impact of what you're hearing. Oh,

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Speaker 1: of course, and this is why the control that the

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Speaker 1: left has of entertainment and of Hollywood and of sports media,

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Speaker 1: which I have learned a lot, you know, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I also remember a lot of conservatives who are saying,

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Speaker 1: c claia, I understand in respect that you want to

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Speaker 1: fight for something you love. You you don't want to

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Speaker 1: hand over. You don't want to hand over the NFL

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Speaker 1: and the NBA to the woke mob to ruin and

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Speaker 1: destroy forever. I get that. I never had quite a

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Speaker 1: love for these things. So when I see what's going

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Speaker 1: on here, I'm just I'm out right. I choose, I

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Speaker 1: choose to non participate in those things. And remember there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of people in the right who felt

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Speaker 1: that way about two years ago, and they're no, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: you know now, it's all fine. But sports media is

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Speaker 1: absolutely an effective tool for propaganda because a lot of

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Speaker 1: people don't realize that they're being preached to all these issues,

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Speaker 1: when we push back, it's, oh, come on, he's just

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Speaker 1: a sports guy, or gal, oh come on. With John Stewart,

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Speaker 1: it was I'm just a comedian man. There are people

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Speaker 1: you know they You know, John Stewart was clown nose on,

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Speaker 1: what to talk about just a few minutes we're talking

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Speaker 1: would be fantastic guests for the Bill Maher show will

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Speaker 1: be my third. And uh, I mean I enjoy it

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Speaker 1: because I never get to fight with libs on air anywhere.

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Speaker 1: They won't they won't have me anywhere. I love Really,

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Speaker 1: it allows it right. It's really one of the only

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Speaker 1: this stuff. And anyway, here is Bill Mahr though on

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Speaker 1: how the China situation. We just played that guy what's

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Speaker 1: here's Bill Moore saying, yeah, China is a confusing situation

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Speaker 1: for the woke left because he isn't remember when the where.

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Speaker 1: If you call it the Wuhan coronavirus, it was racist.

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Speaker 1: You criticize China at all in any respect, it's racist.

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Speaker 1: Here's more, Americans don't think China should be hosting the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: And you know it's funny. I was mentioning, can't get

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Speaker 1: grinder anymore. In China They're are putting wagers into camps.

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Speaker 1: It's a nineteen eighty four a surveillance state. It's just

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Speaker 1: so much wrong with China, and yet it's an issue

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Speaker 1: that really confuses the woke because Chinese are Asians and

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Speaker 1: Asians are not white, so if you criticize them, it's racism.

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Speaker 1: That's really where we are with the level of thinking

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Speaker 1: all Democrats by the way, and leftist. It's one that

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Speaker 1: you know, Bill has to always play this. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's he's speaks the truth, but then he takes some

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Speaker 1: shots at Trump people or whatever. These are Democrats who

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Speaker 1: have that feeling and have that can fusion. But his

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Speaker 1: analysis of their confusion, Clay is correct. That is why

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Speaker 1: they don't correct. Buck. Remember it's all been whitewashed now.

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Speaker 1: But when Trump announced the travel ban with China, what

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Speaker 1: racist the travel ban, which by the way, has been

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Speaker 1: she didn't do it. Remember when she went to Chinatown.

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Speaker 1: Buck early in the talk about COVID and like was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: follow her into Chinatown so that she could send a

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Speaker 1: Asian people. Remember when early in twenty twenty one they

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Speaker 1: into oh, this is Asian hate. And then they realized

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Speaker 1: It was going to be white supremacy is not just

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Speaker 1: That Asian hate storyline didn't have the right perpetrator, and

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Speaker 1: factor's in if, for instance, Germany, which is what happened

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Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty six, Buck, if we were seeing this

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Speaker 1: they're the master race. It must you're will be Goldberg.

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Speaker 1: You don't realize the racial component. But China paints them

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Speaker 1: China virus. It was racist to talk about the fact

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Speaker 1: that this came out of a Chinese lab and they

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Speaker 1: don't know how to respond to this genocide. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: about the Super Bowl week that is going on with

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Speaker 1: Jay Glazer at the National Football League inside for Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports NFL pregame studio show. And also are they gonna

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Speaker 1: make the COVID restrictions go away forever or just a

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Speaker 1: little while. We'll discuss this coming up. Stick around Sleet

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth