Speaker 1: Found oyster. That's the spot next to Besties that I
Speaker 1: was thinking of found oyster.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oysters freaked me out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not something that I want to have like found,
Speaker 2: you know, I want them very meticulously for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to be raised in captivity. Yeah, oysters, not yet.
Speaker 1: I don want to come upon an oyster.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I just found it out on the sidewalk
Speaker 2: a minute ago. Do you want to know, because that's
Speaker 2: the thing.
Speaker 1: I know vegans who started eating them because someone came through.
Speaker 1: It's like they lack of central nervous system.
Speaker 2: They're oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I remember that whole that whole conversation happening,
Speaker 3: and I just couldn't care less because that I would
Speaker 3: avoid oysters like the deacon.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I only know one person who used that
Speaker 1: to be like, oh I'm meeting that every other vegan
Speaker 1: And I was like, nah, it's still registers. It's like
Speaker 1: a animal because it's in Ah Like no, well, it.
Speaker 3: Just still registers as nasty as fuck to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a snot based food.
Speaker 1: Finn, You're a kicky girl and I'm a nasty gal.
Speaker 1: I like my shit's droopy.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I'm happy for you and think be different,
Speaker 3: and that's a good thing.
Speaker 2: I love that for us. Hello the Internet, and welcome
Speaker 2: to season four or four, Episode four of Dirnely Guys.
Speaker 2: It's a production by Heart Radio. It's a podcast we're
Speaker 2: taking deep to have into American chair conscience. It says Thursday,
Speaker 2: September fifth, twenty twenty five. Feel like to speed run
Speaker 2: this bitch Friday. It's Friday, September fifth, twenty You want
Speaker 2: to work again tomorrow, that's up to you. You're and
Speaker 2: your guy. Nah, we're almighty dollar.
Speaker 1: It's also National Kiyanti Day. To compare that with some
Speaker 1: fava beans. It's National Food Bank Day, National Lazy Mom's Day.
Speaker 2: The fuck does that? Okay?
Speaker 1: National beat Late for Something Day, National.
Speaker 2: Cheese Pizza Day. Okay. I hope Lazy Mom's Day was
Speaker 2: invented by a lazy mom and not like a dad.
Speaker 1: In nineteen fifty seven by Rick Stebling.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look into them, the inventor of the homemade
Speaker 2: lie detector.
Speaker 1: I guess this National Lazy Mom's Day again.
Speaker 2: Huh? What the fuck? Rick? See you later. I feel
Speaker 2: like we needed to speed run this episode because we
Speaker 2: left our guest waiting for a long time and then
Speaker 2: also ended up talking for like twenty minutes for the
Speaker 2: guest before we started recording.
Speaker 3: And it was a conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was a lot of fun conversation about
Speaker 2: snot based foods that maybe we can get into. My
Speaker 2: name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled
Speaker 2: to be joined as always buy my co host mister
Speaker 2: Miles Grass Miles Gray, He's.
Speaker 3: The smoke blood went past A long.
Speaker 2: Time later joined our Heart podcast talking.
Speaker 3: To guys with mister o'brown.
Speaker 2: Second, Rachel, We're doing fine.
Speaker 1: Okay, shout out Hanah ram if you shout a handah
Speaker 1: SOULDI for that Heart of Glass. Okay, been a Minnehannah
Speaker 1: where you've been yal mischief.
Speaker 2: Great to hear from her. I love how just ambitiously
Speaker 2: high you went from the start Heart Glass. You can't
Speaker 2: be like you a smoke bud with like nah.
Speaker 3: It's very castrato of you. I was inspired, Oh thank you.
Speaker 1: I just saw the film Farinelli and was inspired by that.
Speaker 1: That movie is it's I My mom took me to
Speaker 1: this Italian art film when I was seven years old,
Speaker 1: and it's about a castrati uh and I kept asking mom,
Speaker 1: what's happening? What is what are they doing to him?
Speaker 1: Why is he in that white bathtub? It was very,
Speaker 1: very freaky film. And you said you just saw this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you, like just turn eight. No,
Speaker 1: and I was bringing it back. Sorry, I just rewatched
Speaker 1: it because I was like, did I see this? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, my parents, look babysitting was at a premium,
Speaker 1: so like, you're coming with me to see this film
Speaker 1: that's not children.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it was one of those that felt like it
Speaker 3: was maybe a fever dream.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, probably because I'm like, there's no way my mind.
Speaker 1: And then I remember my friend also went, like a
Speaker 1: really close family friend of mine, and we were both like,
Speaker 1: we saw that movie Faranelly right together Faara and Nelly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it was a famous was a famous castrati?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a film about a famous castrato from
Speaker 1: the eighteenth century.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's some spooky stuff. I had this movie that
Speaker 3: I swore I made up, and it's actually a super
Speaker 3: popular movie. But the Batman returns, the one with the pimblem.
Speaker 3: I no, I swear I made it up because I
Speaker 3: just had this intrusive thought all the time of some
Speaker 3: like you know, dripping wet man biting someone's nose off,
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, like you just.
Speaker 2: Had that part in your head.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, certainly that's just a nightmare
Speaker 3: that I conjured up when I was a toddler, But no,
Speaker 3: it is because we had the VHS and I would
Speaker 3: watch it all the time, and I only discovered that
Speaker 3: it was a real moment from cinema until recently when
Speaker 3: I went through all of our old vhs is and
Speaker 3: I watched that and You're like, yeah, it was real
Speaker 3: flash yeaheah. And I was really holding that against myself
Speaker 3: for conjuring such a horrible image, the.
Speaker 2: Black stuff coming like, there's but black stuff that comes
Speaker 2: out of his mouth. It's it's a lot. It's thanks
Speaker 2: a lot, Timber Miles. We're throwing to be joined in
Speaker 2: our third seat by a very talented actor a musician
Speaker 2: you've seen in shows like Queer as Folk and the
Speaker 2: other two come on favorites, one of our all time.
Speaker 2: They also appear in movies. Little slang term I like
Speaker 2: to use for pictures that move moving pictures. Okay, you
Speaker 2: guys have to check these things out. They co host
Speaker 2: the wonderful podcast One of Us with standout guest Chris Remfro.
Speaker 2: On this very podcast, please welcome the multi talented Finn Argy.
Speaker 1: Good morning, good morning, Good morning, Finn. Gotta say bit
Speaker 1: starstruck because I loved you and the other two. I
Speaker 1: couldn't stop laughing at your character, which I thought was
Speaker 1: so fucking genius. Just the whole construction of that character
Speaker 1: fucking took me out.
Speaker 2: So thank you.
Speaker 1: I'd love to be able to thank somebody for the
Speaker 1: laughs face to face.
Speaker 3: So I'm honored. I'm honored. My friend Gilly also wrote
Speaker 3: that character, like Pitch, the character in the show, so
Speaker 3: she is she's to blame for that.
Speaker 2: Ah, thank you. Yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 3: Was so much fun. I lived in New York for
Speaker 3: like four months, and the character, as as you might remember,
Speaker 3: is like kind of in just in the background a
Speaker 3: lot of the time. Yeah, Like I'm not I didn't
Speaker 3: have a lot to do except for be creepy in
Speaker 3: the background of shops. Thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: But it was the best four months in my life.
Speaker 3: I just got to live in New York in two
Speaker 3: days a week. I would stand in the background while
Speaker 3: these incredibly talented and funny actors did scenes in front
Speaker 3: of me. It was it was the Princess track. I
Speaker 3: had the best time.
Speaker 1: I just loved just there was always something getting in
Speaker 1: the way every time. Yeah, wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 3: Carrie just wanted to get it in.
Speaker 1: But yeah, preparing for a role, it's you take your
Speaker 1: craft seriously, you know.
Speaker 3: I really do. No, that was a really fun character
Speaker 3: because I also had this like, prior to doing that,
Speaker 3: I hadn't really done any comedy. I had just done
Speaker 3: heavy dramas, and it felt good to make fun of
Speaker 3: myself a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's so. Are you from Los Angeles? Are
Speaker 2: you from the City of Stars as nobody calls it.
Speaker 3: I grew up a small town called the Splains, and
Speaker 3: I moved to LA when I was fifteen. I actually
Speaker 3: started acting when I was twelve.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, did you move to Did you move
Speaker 1: to the oak Wood when you first.
Speaker 2: Moved out here?
Speaker 3: No, close, though, I moved to what was referred to
Speaker 3: as the Artstone at the time. It's by Ava, of course,
Speaker 3: like every apartment complex. Yes, but it was kind of
Speaker 3: like the oak Wood Light like it was close enough
Speaker 3: and it had the same energy, like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's where I lived.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's what's like one of three places where
Speaker 1: people who move out here to act when they're young
Speaker 1: end up.
Speaker 2: It's one of those. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was the artstone for me, and I loved it.
Speaker 3: Does a dream come true? I moved out here and
Speaker 3: I was doing like little Disney stuff and the intention
Speaker 3: was to be out here for a couple of months
Speaker 3: in the summer and then go back to Illinois because
Speaker 3: it was a month to month apartment. And then I
Speaker 3: just started booking things.
Speaker 2: Too damn successful for that. Illinois Sorry Plains. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: feel like I know that it's a small town. It's
Speaker 2: just I think I've been mispronouncing it day plane or something.
Speaker 3: How French ship you Yeah, I know, yeahs. It's known
Speaker 3: for a couple of things. The first ever franchise McDonald's
Speaker 3: was built there, but there they tore it down.
Speaker 2: Is mentioned in the Uh John Stevens concept album Illinois.
Speaker 3: I don't think the I don't think the town is
Speaker 3: mentioned by again, but there is a reference. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's a whole song John Wayne Gacy Jr. And unfortunately
Speaker 3: he you know, kidnapped people who went to my high school.
Speaker 3: Oh my, he was also arrested in displays. That's where
Speaker 3: the final arrest was made.
Speaker 2: That's that's so two very clown like clown based things
Speaker 2: happening in your hometown, and then you become a third
Speaker 2: a proud tradition. How many podcasts was part of a
Speaker 2: proud clown clown based tradition.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I hate clowns, but I did find myself
Speaker 3: actually inspired by Chris Renfro to do clowney drag so
Speaker 3: that's fun. Yeah, living up to my legacy.
Speaker 2: And did I read that you have some kids bop background?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that was my job singers. Yeah when I
Speaker 3: was twelve.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the only way manager.
Speaker 3: To be the tour manager. And it's crazy, you know,
Speaker 3: between algebra class and that's from gym. But no, I
Speaker 3: made it work. My parents were very supportive. I didn't
Speaker 3: open casting when I was twelve. I just sent in
Speaker 3: a video of me singing and dancing and playing my
Speaker 3: instruments and wearing my I actually did costume changes. I
Speaker 3: changed my Fedora like twice.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was really into sh I thought I was like
Speaker 3: Minnie Jason Moras. Okay, and in a lot of ways
Speaker 3: I was, yeah, except for just not nearly as good
Speaker 3: of a singer. But I was twelve. Yeah, I was twelve.
Speaker 3: I watched that video recently. Yeah, and it is crazy.
Speaker 2: Your VHS rewatch. Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I can't remember why it came up. My friend
Speaker 3: did a sketch at there's this sket show at UCB
Speaker 3: called Asketch and it's just like a monthly hour long
Speaker 3: sketch show. And they did a sketch called adult Spop
Speaker 3: where it's just former kids pop kids who have grown
Speaker 3: up into capitalize on that success, which is the story
Speaker 3: of my life.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sure, so trying to reach those heady highs the early Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's nothing like singing the kids bop version of thrift
Speaker 2: Shop to like really make you feel like you're living
Speaker 2: your purpose. Oh shit, what so, like, do is there
Speaker 2: one that stands out to you as like your peak
Speaker 2: kids bup moment?
Speaker 3: I think it actually was thrift Shop And I'm not
Speaker 3: even joking, Like it was so funny and silly bars
Speaker 3: that every time we performed it, because we did we toured,
Speaker 3: We did like full tours around the country and sometimes
Speaker 3: up in Canada. Uh So that one was always the
Speaker 3: most fun range.
Speaker 1: Can you just can can you just give me the
Speaker 1: lyrics for the chorus into the first verse because I
Speaker 1: only remember, I know that it's twenty dollars. I'm hunt
Speaker 1: looking forward, come up. This is fucking awesome. And then
Speaker 1: then you say like, what up, I got a big cock? Yes,
Speaker 1: Like opening line is walk up in the club?
Speaker 3: Like, what up? I got a big and kids Bop
Speaker 3: changed it to walk up in the club, like whatever,
Speaker 3: I got a hit song.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm so pumped.
Speaker 3: He got some clothes from the thrift shop. There you go,
Speaker 3: this is so awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is really awesome, awesome, Yeah, it's super super awesome.
Speaker 2: Just replace fuck with really and it'll usually work. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I want to reel you.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Kids Bob does choose some crazy songs to cover, though,
Speaker 3: like songs that shouldn't have made the cut, like thrift
Speaker 3: Shop for example. But sometimes it's even it's even more
Speaker 3: like innuendo than that, and they just like throw a
Speaker 3: random word in there and call it a day. I
Speaker 3: know the guy who does it, forty year old gay
Speaker 3: man and he's just having a blast.
Speaker 2: Good for him. Yeah, that must be a great gig
Speaker 2: to just be like I kids bopify regular like hit songs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that is his job, Like there's he's not
Speaker 3: like overseeing well things, it's like that's the thing that
Speaker 3: he does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if you would, I would assume
Speaker 2: it's like an entire factory of people doing that. So
Speaker 2: the fact that it's one person is pretty yay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well maybe there is. There's got to be a
Speaker 3: writer's room actually, now that any think about it, but
Speaker 3: I only knew one.
Speaker 2: Sure. All right, well, Finn, we're thrilled to have you here.
Speaker 2: We're going to get to know you a little bit
Speaker 2: better in a moment. First, a couple of stories we're
Speaker 2: talking about. We're going to talk about Trump trying to
Speaker 2: drown out, the Epstein survivors press conference with jet flyovers,
Speaker 2: specifically one of the survivors that was speaking and has
Speaker 2: an interesting history with him. Also, just any title, any
Speaker 2: headline that starts trump tried to drown ye am assuming
Speaker 2: the worst? Yeah yeah, sorry, I wrote Trump to drown out?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but I was assuming there were
Speaker 2: babies or kittens involved. Maybe we'll talk about smartphones making
Speaker 2: your hemorrhoids worse? Is that plenty more? But even worse possible,
Speaker 2: all that plenty more. But first, Finn, we do like
Speaker 2: to ask our guest, what is something from your search
Speaker 2: history that's revealing about who you are? Oh?
Speaker 3: Goodness, well, I'll see what tabs I have opened. You know.
Speaker 3: What I will say though, is I don't have a history,
Speaker 3: Like I'm just on incognito, so there's nothing saved. Wow,
Speaker 3: not that that's like mostly private or something.
Speaker 2: But I just activated.
Speaker 3: Okay it taps that I have opened right now are
Speaker 3: Edwin Jonker Height. He is playing Hades in Hadestown right now. Okay,
Speaker 3: I think in like Australia or something Australia.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, also, weirdly, I have task Master Australia open.
Speaker 2: Are you going to Australia or are you doing tasks
Speaker 2: for someone who's in Australia show?
Speaker 3: This is just some Yeah, it's a it's like a show,
Speaker 3: a comedy show where comedians do menial tasks and then
Speaker 3: they're in they're performance.
Speaker 2: Got it? Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh best times to visit Japan I looked up recently?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, fall and spring apparently. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: AI Overview has to say about it, Like fucking AI
Speaker 1: is taking my job as a Japanese person, I fucking
Speaker 1: hate it.
Speaker 3: Have you been?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, many times, many many, all the time, all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: Every season.
Speaker 3: I'm really excited to go. My friend lives in Tokyo
Speaker 3: and I have been meaning to visit for years now,
Speaker 3: so I'm very excited.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's it's it's a good time. Although, you know,
Speaker 1: the fascism is creeping back up over there too, a
Speaker 1: lot of japan First nonsense bubbling up again. But anyway,
Speaker 1: no one's safe on this planet, you know, no one's safe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't felt safe in years.
Speaker 2: Good good, good, good good. That's good. That's a real way.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: That's good shock for those of us who have not
Speaker 1: felt safe here after.
Speaker 2: Edward Edwin Jonker, How's how's the celebrity or you know
Speaker 2: a person who I'm watching on something? Height is always
Speaker 2: a fave search of mine. What what'd you find out?
Speaker 1: He was six too, and I was actually surprised because
Speaker 1: they usually cast like people who were at least six
Speaker 1: five to play hades.
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't know why, but that's just a recurring theme.
Speaker 3: So he is, as far as I know, the shortest
Speaker 3: hades to the.
Speaker 2: Shortest hades today.
Speaker 3: But he looks great doing it, and that is ultimately
Speaker 3: what I saw, and he was saying it and he
Speaker 3: looked fabulous, and I was just curious if he was
Speaker 3: six foot seven real?
Speaker 2: Was he giving six foot seven? Yea, like, were you
Speaker 2: like or was he not?
Speaker 1: And that's why you said, let me just look up
Speaker 1: the this is he's not giving me six y five,
Speaker 1: give me two.
Speaker 3: I was guessing like six four in my hearts, so
Speaker 3: I was still off by a bit. But he did
Speaker 3: seem a little shorter than I.
Speaker 2: Was used to.
Speaker 3: It was like I thought maybe it was the angle.
Speaker 3: I couldn't see anyone standing next to him. I think
Speaker 3: that he's trying to keep his height under wraps to
Speaker 3: keep the job of hades.
Speaker 2: No one during the rehearsals. Don't tell him I'm six too, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm standing no one near him.
Speaker 3: It's actually a really weird production where everyone's just sort
Speaker 3: of in the side of the stage even when he's
Speaker 3: not in the scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just doing dialogue from the wings exactly. Because there
Speaker 2: are actors who I feel like present taller than they
Speaker 2: actually are. I do wonder if they cast their friends
Speaker 2: and the people they go out in public with to
Speaker 2: kind of keep that illusion alive, you know. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: how much of your friend group are you basing around
Speaker 2: that kind of mind there towering over you a six
Speaker 2: to two that presents i'd say taller than six too.
Speaker 1: I present as six too. I wear a shirt that
Speaker 1: says I'm six too.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like you to do the people think how tall
Speaker 1: are you six?
Speaker 3: To just have a card, It comes up a lot.
Speaker 3: I'm six to one, and I really resent it because
Speaker 3: I would love to be the size of a quarter,
Speaker 3: like physically and actually.
Speaker 2: The size of a quarter like the coin, the coin, Yeah,
Speaker 2: just just to get around the pocket.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just want to be kind of like
Speaker 3: a like Thumberlina a borrower. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, that's
Speaker 3: my greatest dream. We got to have dreams, I know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And it's important to have unachievable dreams. And I have planned.
Speaker 2: Oh I think you're going to get there. I think
Speaker 2: you're going to get there based on.
Speaker 1: What I've heard, the trajectory you've been on, coming from
Speaker 1: Displaines all the way out to Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, anything you put your mind to
Speaker 2: turn into the quarter with great Yeah, no, it's in
Speaker 2: my future hair. I usually we don't bring up our
Speaker 2: guests hair because then it would put pressure on every
Speaker 2: time we have a guest one to comment on their hair.
Speaker 2: But I think we can in this one instance. Yea, say,
Speaker 2: Finn has incredible.
Speaker 1: That main should be posted on Maine.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm honored, thank you so much. I'm actually about to.
Speaker 2: Cut it all off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, you know, you know this whole thing.
Speaker 3: But this it's been growing out for a bit six
Speaker 3: two now.
Speaker 2: Oh wow? Yeah top not I six Uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm tired of it though it's so hot. And
Speaker 3: I actually I was brave and I turned off my
Speaker 3: AC for sound and I'm dying in here with this main.
Speaker 2: All right, quickly, we'll move on to the next thing.
Speaker 2: What's something underrated?
Speaker 3: Something I think is underrated is I just finished watching
Speaker 3: this show called Dragon Age Absolution, and it's based on
Speaker 3: a video game, and it is so good and so gay,
Speaker 3: and I don't know anyone who's watched it, and I
Speaker 3: was actually really surprised that it was gay. Uh No,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just I watched a lot of
Speaker 3: animation and to get main characters that are gay and
Speaker 3: don't like die immediately after they kiss is so rare,
Speaker 3: especially in fantasy, Like it's this phenomenon. If there are
Speaker 3: gay men in any like genre, they will be like
Speaker 3: star cross lovers and probably won't even get to kiss,
Speaker 3: but you'll just know that they are lovers and it's implied,
Speaker 3: and then one of them will die and that happens
Speaker 3: every single time. It's crazy. So this one was great.
Speaker 3: There's actually like half of the main cast is gay
Speaker 3: and they're out here sucking and fucking and you know,
Speaker 3: fighting dragons. Oh yeah, I loved it, and I don't
Speaker 3: know of anyone who's watched it, and there's only one
Speaker 3: season in six episodes, and I'm pretty sure it's canceled,
Speaker 3: but in the way that Netflix doesn't cancel stuff, they
Speaker 3: just never renew it, right right, right, Yeah, So I
Speaker 3: think people should watch that.
Speaker 1: It's Oh it does a voice on there too, Mort
Speaker 1: Burke's wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty cool. Ashley Birch, yeah, Quitian.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, such a fun character.
Speaker 2: Dragons are really you know, I have a nine and
Speaker 2: a seven year old, and like the most popular book
Speaker 2: series right now with kids that age is Wings of Fire,
Speaker 2: which is just a book series where everyone's dragons, like
Speaker 2: like the characters themselves. Yeah, yeah, dragging, yeah, just dragging
Speaker 2: it all. Yeah, and they're yeah, everybody seems obsessed with that.
Speaker 2: Like I am searching on a fairly regular basis wings
Speaker 2: of Fire adaptation, Like there was a project that was
Speaker 2: in development that like went away, but it's a so
Speaker 2: when daddy is there, like, are we going to get
Speaker 2: a wings Fire? Do you think it'll be? Like when
Speaker 2: I'm in high school? And so I think.
Speaker 1: That's that's when I kept asking my parents about an
Speaker 1: X Men movie as a kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when are they going to make the movie?
Speaker 5: Or this?
Speaker 2: When's the movie? Like you gotta wait, gotta wait?
Speaker 3: Have a potential recommendation for kids, and well Dragon ages
Speaker 3: yeah great. And then also there is another show called
Speaker 3: The Dragon Prince and I'm sorry, like my hyperfixation is animation.
Speaker 3: I watch it all the time, so I could go
Speaker 3: on and on and on.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, The Dragon Prince is amazing and it's a lot
Speaker 3: of TV. I think it's like seven seasons, maybe even more,
Speaker 3: but it's pretty dragon heavy, and they talk and they
Speaker 3: have personalities not.
Speaker 2: All an out here too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really great. It's actually one of the producers
Speaker 3: I think of Avatar, the Last Airbender made thish Okay,
Speaker 3: I see a Parallel might have been one of the
Speaker 3: creators too, But the voice of Sokka is the main
Speaker 3: character in this show and it's great. It's also I
Speaker 3: think like not enough people watched it. But that's how
Speaker 3: I feel about Like all of my underrated things are
Speaker 3: just animated shows that no one's heard of. Like Infinity Train,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, is the best show ever. I just
Speaker 3: found out a mutual friend of mine wrote on it.
Speaker 3: I had no idea and it's so good, but you
Speaker 3: can't find it anywhere because it was lost in the
Speaker 3: merger of like Warm.
Speaker 1: One of those Yeah, fucking there's so many fucking shows
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: And it's so many animations too. Like a couple of
Speaker 3: my favorite shows are just nowhere to be found now,
Speaker 3: right Infinity Train, Summer Camp Island, and I would literally
Speaker 3: I'm saying, don't torrent, No, no one torrent ever except
Speaker 3: for maybe.
Speaker 1: If you do want to watch these shows, then you should.
Speaker 1: Except for Metal, you really shouldn't because of like that's
Speaker 1: really bad to do. But yeah, or find or find
Speaker 1: maybe some people from the crew and vemo them some
Speaker 1: money out of guilt.
Speaker 3: You know, you should yeah, actually that's the sweet thought.
Speaker 1: I'll yeah, sorry, I just bit torrented the whole series.
Speaker 1: Here's like thirteen bucks. Can you slip that amongst everyone?
Speaker 2: So, did you steal from the oil industry? Yes? Then
Speaker 2: why would you steal from the film indo? I said, yes,
Speaker 2: all right, the first flock. I gotta stop using the
Speaker 2: oil industry. That's the worst example. Let's from the cops.
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break. We'll come back, talk overrated
Speaker 2: and get into some news. And we're back and Finn,
Speaker 2: we do like to ask our guests on this show,
Speaker 2: in addition to what's something you think is underrated, what's
Speaker 2: something you think is overrated?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, I was thinking about this a lot
Speaker 3: over the last couple of days, and I was trying
Speaker 3: to come up with something more interesting. But the answer
Speaker 3: I kept on coming back to is just chocolate.
Speaker 2: Wow, chocolate in general.
Speaker 3: Yeah, chocolate and being right were the two things that
Speaker 3: that kept on popping up for me.
Speaker 1: Do you think you're right about this take about chocolate
Speaker 1: being overrated?
Speaker 3: I honestly don't care either way. It is good you're liberated.
Speaker 3: I'm liberated. I like being wrong. I like admitting when
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, and I like failing at stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I gotta go to that therapist. You're
Speaker 1: talking about the big blue building on Fountain, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the one. Yeah, okay, I'm gonna blue building on Fountain.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: My therapist is really cool. He's been in a lot
Speaker 3: of Mission Impossible movies.
Speaker 2: That's sick, okay, so encouraging her lot of energy, like
Speaker 2: almost an overpowering amount of energy.
Speaker 3: It has the energy of someone who sicks too, but
Speaker 3: is ultimately five seven five.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see in person, you don't know it. You
Speaker 2: like most actors that I see in person, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: much smaller than I was expecting. Tom Cruise walked past him.
Speaker 2: I think he might have been hovering a few inches
Speaker 2: off the ground, so that might.
Speaker 3: Have me Nicole Kidney, she hovers. Oh yeah, yeah, she's
Speaker 3: gonna never see her toes touch the ground.
Speaker 1: She has fucking ourra She moves through wat she moves
Speaker 1: through the earth like in a Spike Lee floating shot.
Speaker 1: This is funny because you asked about Mars Attacks. There's
Speaker 1: a there's a character in Mars Attacks. There's like this
Speaker 1: big alien woman and she like when she moves, you
Speaker 1: don't see her take steps like she's wearing a long
Speaker 1: dress and she just glides.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: That was what Nicole Kimmer was doing ye when I
Speaker 1: saw her anyway. But chocolate, really, yeah, chocolate, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean it's good and I'm not saying it isn't,
Speaker 3: but I think people are just obsessed with it and
Speaker 3: it freaks me out. Sometimes it's just like like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's good, but could you shut the fuck up for
Speaker 3: a second.
Speaker 1: Wait, what's give me an example of someone who is
Speaker 1: obsessed with chocolate that is feeding this over it up.
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't like chocolate that much, but I
Speaker 3: can't be that it's good. But then people are like
Speaker 3: are dying for it, like they want chocolate cake. It's
Speaker 3: double fudged chocolate with chocolate frosting. And I'm like, can
Speaker 3: we take a breath? Like can we throw some some
Speaker 3: like vanilla butter cream on here?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: As they wear yeah, and then they me hard and
Speaker 3: I don't understand.
Speaker 4: Know.
Speaker 3: There's like chocolate stores, Like I walk into a chocolate
Speaker 3: store and I'm like, okay, yeah, but it's all chocolate.
Speaker 3: What is there?
Speaker 1: There's a chocolate dispensary in Echo Park that's like called this,
Speaker 1: and so many people walk in thinking that it's a week.
Speaker 1: They're so wet like weed chocolate, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: that's how they get your ass.
Speaker 3: It's chocolate.
Speaker 2: It's for people, purveyors of chocolate. And you want the
Speaker 2: people who are already high to then go into the
Speaker 2: chocolate store. Then people trying to get high, but maybe
Speaker 2: like they'll remember by some miracle that they went into
Speaker 2: the chocolate store after they find the real dispersery. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm making a joke about.
Speaker 3: Munchies, you got, Yeah, the monkeys. I have been there though,
Speaker 3: and I was just like, these are all just chocolate, chocolate, right,
Speaker 3: And the one thing they I was I was like
Speaker 3: excited to try. They had a shot of chocolate of
Speaker 3: like melted chocolate and and you know what, it was
Speaker 3: just chocolate, you know, like it was And I think
Speaker 3: that I personally, y'all got it right the first time,
Speaker 3: Like a chocolate bar is great, put it on it's more,
Speaker 3: that's fine, but it's gone too far and I have
Speaker 3: to put my foot down. I do think chocolate is overrated.
Speaker 2: This ends today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one time I had something that was chocolate
Speaker 1: that was new and I was like, oh, okay, that's
Speaker 1: something different was when I went to Spain, like and
Speaker 1: they drink hot like they're hot chocolate.
Speaker 2: Did you like a churo out there? I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is a fucking vibe kind of half hot chocolate,
Speaker 2: half like melted chocolate. It was like so rich, thick. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's you're basically doing dippies.
Speaker 4: Now look at us, we're going off like a couple
Speaker 4: of Chocolate's what I'm talking about. Like this is bring
Speaker 4: up on someone's podcast that chocolate's overrated and they're like, actually,
Speaker 4: that makes me think about how fucking good chocolate different.
Speaker 1: It'll change your life.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's unexpected.
Speaker 7: You think it's going to be a solid, but it's
Speaker 7: it's drinkable and you can dip your chiro into it
Speaker 7: and achiro. This is what I'm talking about. Like people
Speaker 7: are obsessed with chocolate and that's fine. It's just I
Speaker 7: personally think it's. Yeah, it doesn't do much for me.
Speaker 2: It does remind me of like people who are like
Speaker 2: I don't eat, Like, I wouldn't waste my calories on
Speaker 2: a sweet thing like that unless it has weed in it,
Speaker 2: you know, like that that's a just specific things. Yeah, calorie, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: being like, well, that's a that's wasted if it doesn't
Speaker 2: have weed in interesting. You know people who are like
Speaker 2: weed in everything. I don't know. Maybe I just know
Speaker 2: like a couple of people like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've.
Speaker 1: Been listeners, he's not taking shots of me, because that's.
Speaker 2: Not I'm not You're not a weed food consumer.
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't need to eat weed all the time.
Speaker 1: That's like I don't even like. I don't even like
Speaker 1: edibles because they just make me sleepy. I don't get
Speaker 1: like those that I see other people off edibles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the ya relationship to weed? Are y'all out here?
Speaker 1: Weed and I have been in love since junior high?
Speaker 1: Yeah we're sweethearts. Yeah we were sweethearts.
Speaker 2: Bout your sweethearts? Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And
Speaker 2: I'm sober so I don't partake. Also, when I wasn't
Speaker 2: sober and I smoked weed, I would have a nervous
Speaker 2: breakdown every time, and I kept doing We powered through
Speaker 2: a Jackie because I wanted to be cool.
Speaker 3: I will be a pothead if it's the last thing
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I just want to be chill, like everybody else. You
Speaker 2: just age so fast because of the stress. Every time
Speaker 2: I smoke weed, I age like a president. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: you are so like Lincoln in eighth grade.
Speaker 3: I I feel that I stopped h smoke looking about
Speaker 3: it a year ago. But I'm I'm sober, and yeah
Speaker 3: I do. I do miss it sometimes, But uh, I've
Speaker 3: never had that inkling to like. I don't. I don't
Speaker 3: like edibles. They always freaked me out. They made me
Speaker 3: feel crazy. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: No, you're on the right track.
Speaker 1: You're on your way to being becoming a quarter fin
Speaker 1: and then you want to focus on that.
Speaker 2: You stay off the weed. You got beautiful hair, You're
Speaker 2: going to be an LSD become.
Speaker 1: Next time we have Finn on, they might be a
Speaker 1: quarter Poe entirely.
Speaker 3: My therapist did give me actionable items, and so every
Speaker 3: day I'm one step closer.
Speaker 1: Let's do that quarter affirmation every morning.
Speaker 3: You are a quarter.
Speaker 2: You are you are even though I'm not a quarter.
Speaker 1: I wholly and completely accept myself even though I'm not
Speaker 1: a quarter yet, I wholly and completely accept myself.
Speaker 2: Now that's a quitter's mentality. You just have to nuts
Speaker 2: you got to do it. You need. You got to
Speaker 2: accept yourself, and that's part of the e f T.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like my other what was the under underrated thing
Speaker 3: or overrated like failing?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, being right?
Speaker 3: Being right is overrated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, that's true. Love. I love to admit
Speaker 2: that I'm wrong. Yeah, I love to learn that I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: and then yeah.
Speaker 1: I love to learn from the listeners I'm wrong, and
Speaker 1: then I ignore it exactly because my ego cannot handle it.
Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah, No, I get it. I think I
Speaker 3: kind of like the process. I do feel like dumb,
Speaker 3: so it is it is helpful to kind of embrace that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. The only people I
Speaker 2: trust are people who can admit that they're dumb a
Speaker 2: lot of the time. Oh yeah. Well, one thing you
Speaker 2: can do when if somebody is saying something that suggests
Speaker 2: that you're wrong, is you can drown them out with
Speaker 2: a jet engine. Is something that I've seen attempted fairly recently,
Speaker 2: such as on Wednesday afternoon, when a group of women
Speaker 2: that have suffered abuse from Jeffrey Epstein and Gilane Maxwell
Speaker 2: held a press conference with representatives Thomas Massey and Rocanna
Speaker 2: to speak out talk about that some for the very
Speaker 2: first time, and yeah, it was powerful.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean every person that spoke, they were
Speaker 1: all urging members of the House to back the discharge
Speaker 1: petition that Thomas Massey is trying to get through, basically
Speaker 1: saying like, if they get enough signatures, they can force
Speaker 1: a vote and put everyone in the House like to
Speaker 1: a vote to be like, are you going to release
Speaker 1: the Epstein files?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Or no? I Mean, I don't know what that will
Speaker 2: do long.
Speaker 1: Term, but hopefully enough people will support it. And that's
Speaker 1: what was one of the points of this press conference
Speaker 1: was to actually bring these survivors out to humanize them,
Speaker 1: to show that this is not a fucking hoax. These
Speaker 1: are human beings that suffer untold fucking horrors with Epstein,
Speaker 1: Maxwell and all of the associates, and you know, all
Speaker 1: of everything that these women said was like really powerful
Speaker 1: about how like the lack of transparency and justice has
Speaker 1: like prevented them from like being able to move forward
Speaker 1: with their lives and like even be able to so
Speaker 1: many things are hazy to them because of the trauma
Speaker 1: that like they are having trouble piecing together what even
Speaker 1: happened to them. And like I said, many emphasize that
Speaker 1: Trump's like hoax defense is just bullshit because what they
Speaker 1: experienced was very real and requires justice swiftly. But in short,
Speaker 1: the press conference was a blow to Trump and the
Speaker 1: idea that this whole saga is some kind of Joe
Speaker 1: Biden's smear campaign. But like you said, Jack, Trump was
Speaker 1: probably not doing well with the idea of these people
Speaker 1: speaking publicly because you ordered to fucking military jets to
Speaker 1: do a flyover near the capital as a way to
Speaker 1: interrupt them.
Speaker 2: Is that like that that's definitely that's just so yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just like so transparent. I don't know. Again, Like
Speaker 2: I've talked before about like I took a week off
Speaker 2: of the show and came back and like the first
Speaker 2: thing that hit me is just like how obviously guilty.
Speaker 2: Everything he's doing is like being against the release of
Speaker 2: the files just from the start. It's like so just
Speaker 2: suddenly being like, actually, I don't think we should release
Speaker 2: him at all. It is like so wild to do.
Speaker 2: To use your power as the commander in chief of
Speaker 2: the military to stage military jet flyovers to drown out
Speaker 2: the words of victims that you are implicated in is
Speaker 2: just like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's the behavior of a middle school boy who knows
Speaker 3: he's losing an argument, where you start saying that, yeah, really, like,
Speaker 3: won't let you finish your sentence.
Speaker 2: I'm plugging my ears with jet engines. I can't hear you.
Speaker 1: I have f eighteens flying over strategic flyover during this,
Speaker 1: Like it was known days before though too, that this
Speaker 1: was going to happen alongside this press conference. So like
Speaker 1: when it happened, it was just really fucking just menacing
Speaker 1: and disturbing. So the timing was wild too. So here
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play a clip from Shanta Davis, one of
Speaker 1: the survivors, being asked, you know, whether or not she
Speaker 1: was asked like someone from the press, like, can someone
Speaker 1: you speak about Epstein and Maxwell? How they said that
Speaker 1: they knew Donald Trump? And she s gets up to
Speaker 1: the podium to begin to speak, and then we get
Speaker 1: a bit of a military Hey, how are you My first.
Speaker 6: Trip to the Palm Beach residence, I drove there from
Speaker 6: the airport with Glenn Maxwell and the Jeffrey and Elynn
Speaker 6: were always very boastful about their friends, their famous or
Speaker 6: powerful friends, and his biggest brag forever was that he
Speaker 6: was very good friends with Donald Trump. He had an
Speaker 6: eight by tim framed picture of him on his desk
Speaker 6: with the two of them, like they were very close.
Speaker 1: So you can hear a little bit of that. So
Speaker 1: it gets even like that was just like the tail
Speaker 1: end of one because prior to that, Sorry, just real.
Speaker 2: Quick, do you have any like eight by ten framed
Speaker 2: pictures of you and your friends? I mean I think, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess it's a question. Are you
Speaker 2: a person with like pick like desk pictures, like a
Speaker 2: lot of pictures on your desk.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not a desk picture person, but I have
Speaker 1: you know, before the house burned out, we have like
Speaker 1: a hall of friendship photos where like all the homies
Speaker 1: were represented in photographs on your desk, not on my desk,
Speaker 1: but in but very prominently in my home to know,
Speaker 1: like these are the important people in my life.
Speaker 2: On your desk feels like that is where people have
Speaker 2: the leicture.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, yeah, I have, Yes, I have the geist
Speaker 1: child and her majesty. Yeah, my wife and child. That
Speaker 1: those are photos that I have.
Speaker 2: This is what I have on my picture that on
Speaker 2: my desk. That's it. It's me and my wife my kids.
Speaker 3: Right, And can I also say, like that's a normal
Speaker 3: size eight by ten is crazy eight by ten?
Speaker 2: That's printer paper like a four by six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, just some massive print out like you
Speaker 3: have to special order that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, bigger. I want people to really know
Speaker 1: how good of friends we are. So just before that,
Speaker 1: Anushka to Georgio is another survivor, spoke about how appalled
Speaker 1: she was to hear that Glenne Maxwell was transferred to
Speaker 1: Club fed you know, like a super low security prison,
Speaker 1: in a move that, like, given the crimes that she
Speaker 1: was convicted of, violates every procedural, procedural norm and regulation
Speaker 1: that exists, like within the president yeah, within the you know,
Speaker 1: thecarcial system of the United States. This is her speaking
Speaker 1: and very again strategically.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: The jets are flying over constantly, but it's it's interesting
Speaker 1: when she's speaking specifically, and I'll get to that in
Speaker 1: a moment.
Speaker 8: After this, I was horrified when I found out not
Speaker 8: only had Helen Maxwell been transferred to what it's called,
Speaker 8: you know, a low security it's really is like a
Speaker 8: like a holiday camp.
Speaker 5: And then afterwards I got a notification from the Department
Speaker 5: of justice telling me that this was going to happen
Speaker 5: when it had already happened, this woman abuse children.
Speaker 2: That's loud enough that literally everybody inside there's like thirty
Speaker 2: people inside the frame of this news press conference, and
Speaker 2: everybody is like looking up. That's a yeah, Like I
Speaker 2: obviously this is coming through a microphone that is like
Speaker 2: supposed to be drowning out background noise, and still it's
Speaker 2: like deafening. And to be there in person, it seems
Speaker 2: like it was just overwhelming, like chest rattling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just menacing to hear those plans
Speaker 1: just fly over. But again the flyover brief, it didn't
Speaker 1: deter these women. And Annushka de Georgio happens to have
Speaker 1: a very specific relationship to Trump because she was introduced
Speaker 1: to him by Gallaine Maxwell in nineteen ninety seven. And
Speaker 1: at the time the press in the UK was talking
Speaker 1: about this relationship between this woman and Donald Trump. It
Speaker 1: was like Trump's britt, Trump's brit of all right, just
Speaker 1: weeks after ditching his second wife, America's best known billionaire,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has fallen under the spell of a twenty
Speaker 1: year old English girl. Yeah, yeah, she's a witch, imply
Speaker 1: that she's a witch.
Speaker 2: What the fuck are they talking about?
Speaker 1: So then the way it was written about in the nineties,
Speaker 1: it's just now like now, knowing what we know, it
Speaker 1: sounds so ominous. So quote Trump met London model and
Speaker 1: a Nushka de Georgio at a party in Manhattan. Several
Speaker 1: American millionaires already had their eyes on her, but she
Speaker 1: was there with Robert Maxwell's daughter, Gilaine, who was introduced,
Speaker 1: who has introduced several of her attractive friends to the
Speaker 1: property developer. The article goes on to say, quote Trump
Speaker 1: flew Madame Maxwell, which you're like, what wow? So they
Speaker 1: know sure, and the model south to the Sunshine State,
Speaker 1: where all three enjoyed a happy weekend together. When they
Speaker 1: returned to New York and Nushka was installed in one
Speaker 1: of Donald's many apartments.
Speaker 3: There, Jesus Christ installed as crazy word.
Speaker 1: That's not you don't install a person, You install furniture,
Speaker 1: you install software.
Speaker 2: You can install an armed guard. I feel like I've
Speaker 2: heard it in that context before, like they've installed armed guards.
Speaker 2: That the you know, you don't you don't install.
Speaker 1: I guess maybe could be a human being, but serves
Speaker 1: a very specific singular function. Yes, exactly, which is just anyway,
Speaker 1: and then you know she spoke like she testified against
Speaker 1: Gallaine Maxwell she was basically being abused by Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 1: and after that, Epstein just handed her over essentially.
Speaker 2: And this is someone who has has.
Speaker 1: A story to tell, for fucking sure, just reading that
Speaker 1: thing about how the three of them were kicking into
Speaker 1: Florida and then later she was installed in one of
Speaker 1: his apartments. I mean, That'ssari like rather than the DOJ
Speaker 1: like asking the convicted predator doing Jim Maxwell, ask.
Speaker 2: Him Maxwell what her version of events is. We have
Speaker 2: victims who have like said they're victims.
Speaker 1: As to them, who's above board not the person who's
Speaker 1: the perpetrator of the crime. Anyway, It's it was a
Speaker 1: very very fucked up moment. But again, I mean this
Speaker 1: just all of this has brought even more emphasis and
Speaker 1: more pressure now on Republicans to sort this out, and
Speaker 1: they're trying everything they can, Like they're just doing like
Speaker 1: the Oversight Committee like released a statement that sort of
Speaker 1: like it wasn't really like a lawful resolution. But it's
Speaker 1: like the DOJ will release the documents because we asked
Speaker 1: them to at a time that they want it's like
Speaker 1: very It's not like Kawhi Leonard's like, you know, contract, yeah,
Speaker 1: treat Flaker. It's like if they feel like they can
Speaker 1: opt out at any time. So there's nothing really binding
Speaker 1: about this, but at least we get to say we
Speaker 1: did something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it's a he couldn't look any more guilty.
Speaker 2: And then like you hear that story and it's like, well,
Speaker 2: so there's a trafficking victim that was introduced in quotes
Speaker 2: to him by the trafficker in question, Like, what else
Speaker 2: do you possibly need? Like, I don't understand how this
Speaker 2: is not blaring from the front pages of every fucking newspaper.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, no, it's wild how fast the conversation around
Speaker 3: this has died down to me, like it should be
Speaker 3: everywhere all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it definitely died down in like
Speaker 1: the little the six or four weeks last four weeks
Speaker 1: or so, when Mike Johnson hit the panic button and
Speaker 1: was like, get everybody out of DC because we can't.
Speaker 1: We don't want to be asked any more to pass
Speaker 1: something or vote on something related to the evacuated the building. Basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: And now that they're back, though, i'd say, the pre
Speaker 1: Sure campaign is right back where I guess it is,
Speaker 1: but we'll see what.
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it's getting as much pick up.
Speaker 2: I'll say that, like, I think you're right, finn It
Speaker 2: feels like it's died down in terms of the mainstream
Speaker 2: media's pickup of it.
Speaker 1: And they're because who knows what threats are being thrown
Speaker 1: around by this administration already. I mean, you've already seen
Speaker 1: We've already seen newsroom after newsroom capitulate to the administration,
Speaker 1: and even what you hear from Congress people saying that
Speaker 1: Trump is personally calling people to be like, don't even
Speaker 1: fucking think about voting for this shit. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: only imagine what kind of other intermediaries they used to even.
Speaker 2: Chill the press even more, right, the press already pretty chill.
Speaker 2: So that's very chill. Yeah, chill. All right, let's take
Speaker 2: a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about bad
Speaker 2: things the phone, our phones are doing to us. We'll
Speaker 2: be right back and or back and just two slightly
Speaker 2: related stories about things, bad things smartphone doing to our
Speaker 2: brain and bad things smartphone doing to our assholes. Okay,
Speaker 2: so apparently it significantly raises the risk of getting hemorrhoids.
Speaker 2: According to a study, Those described in a CNN article
Speaker 2: that presumably a lot of people read while sitting on
Speaker 2: the toilet.
Speaker 1: Oh so not just using a smartphone will give you hemorrhoids.
Speaker 2: It's sitting on the toilet with it. Yeah, using it?
Speaker 3: Well, okay, is it sitting on the toilet specifically or
Speaker 3: is it just like sitting anywhere?
Speaker 2: I think they're specifically sitting on the toilet. Reportedly, quote,
Speaker 2: regular smartphone use on the toilet was associated with a
Speaker 2: forty six percent greater risk of having hemorrhoids because apps
Speaker 2: are designed to distract us and people are losing track
Speaker 2: of time. And sitting on the toilet for a long
Speaker 2: time is especially bad because the open toilet seat compresses
Speaker 2: the rectal area.
Speaker 1: There's nothing underneath there just to support your rectum, so
Speaker 1: it's just a light to push.
Speaker 2: Your rectal floor. Is getting a get to rouse? Yeah,
Speaker 2: And this is related to this other story I saw
Speaker 2: recently about the growth of executive function coaches to fix basically,
Speaker 2: you know, they're like, well, all of a sudden, we're
Speaker 2: seeing people who have worse ability to follow through on tasks,
Speaker 2: and like basically executive function is this new term for
Speaker 2: our brain's ability. It's like they consider it like our
Speaker 2: brain's air traffic controller that can like kind of juggle
Speaker 2: tasks and allows you to do a job where there's
Speaker 2: like multiple important tasks and you have to like choose
Speaker 2: which one to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like impulse control and just keeping track of shit, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, keeping track of things like navigating friendships on top
Speaker 2: of your job on time. People are like feeling very overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: And in the past, so this was usually used to
Speaker 2: describe like a deficiency in people with ADHD and people
Speaker 2: like on the spectrum, and they found that these executive
Speaker 2: function coaches could help people, like when you would give
Speaker 2: them an executive punk, a coach that focused on executive function,
Speaker 2: it would like help them improve. But now like everyone
Speaker 2: is having these same problems, and it seems pretty obvious
Speaker 2: to me that it's because everyone is working all the time.
Speaker 2: An on call in the middle of the night, Like
Speaker 2: it's like that used to be the thing that you
Speaker 2: would see it in movies, where like it was a
Speaker 2: cop would get a call.
Speaker 1: In the middle of the night, or like a CIA officer, yeah,
Speaker 1: or the president or just.
Speaker 3: Robin Williams and any of his characters.
Speaker 2: Robin Williams would have just a red phone. That was like,
Speaker 2: we've got to get Robin Williams on the phone. But
Speaker 2: now we all have that like red phone on them,
Speaker 2: you know, on the desk that like and it can
Speaker 2: ring at any time and you're like, oh, there's an emergency.
Speaker 2: And now it's funny. The article that's writing about this,
Speaker 2: I think was in like Business Insider, and so they
Speaker 2: keep kind of going back and forth. The description is like,
Speaker 2: you know, we have more distractions today than ever, like
Speaker 2: kind of fault is partially our fault. You know, we're
Speaker 2: digitally We're just a digitally distracted bunch of silly billies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, just since everyone wanted to design algorithms
Speaker 1: that keep people stuck to their phones God.
Speaker 2: And cut off your IV drip of tiktoks to do
Speaker 2: your job.
Speaker 3: They they got me good though. I was kind of
Speaker 3: like very anti smartphone before twenty twenty, and then lockdown
Speaker 3: happened and I was just lonely. So I got an
Speaker 3: iPhone and I have not been the same since.
Speaker 1: Oh you were off the iPhone prior to lockdowns?
Speaker 3: I well, yeah, but it wasn't like I did have
Speaker 3: an iPhone at like before then, and then I switched
Speaker 3: to like a dumb dumb phone. Wow, and that was
Speaker 3: great and I actually loved it. And I haven't been
Speaker 3: able to justify going back to it though, because like
Speaker 3: this article is saying, like the scaffolding of workplace environments
Speaker 3: that I'll designate start and end times is like gone
Speaker 3: now yea, So I feel this pressure, and I think
Speaker 3: everyone does to feel like available for work stuff, oh
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven, or even for like friendships too,
Speaker 3: Like it was really nice having this stupid phone because
Speaker 3: it was so hard to text, and I would just
Speaker 3: call people and I would make plans and then I
Speaker 3: would meet at that place at a certain time, and
Speaker 3: it just there wasn't a lot of changing of plans
Speaker 3: or if someone canceled then I'd just be alones somewhere
Speaker 3: for a bit. And that was actually nice too.
Speaker 2: That's okay, you get a little bit of alone time.
Speaker 2: We were just talking about this trend that I was
Speaker 2: listening to another podcast where they were talking about people
Speaker 2: like sharing their location so that friends can like track
Speaker 2: the location of other friends, and it was like they
Speaker 2: were they were At first, I was like, oh, they're
Speaker 2: gonna talk about how weird that is. And then the
Speaker 2: two hosts of the show were like, yeah, and we
Speaker 2: do that and that's like normal, but you just like
Speaker 2: can't be a weird stalker about it. I'm just like
Speaker 2: even that like feels like extra being on all the time,
Speaker 2: Like just always having everybody like have access to you
Speaker 2: anytime you want. Feels like like rough environment for a
Speaker 2: human brain to exist in.
Speaker 1: I don't we already live in like a metaphorical panopticon,
Speaker 1: so to make it the real thing to be like no,
Speaker 1: and they know where I am at all, I'm always
Speaker 1: being watched is a little whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean, I do that.
Speaker 1: Her majesty is always like can you share your location
Speaker 1: with me? And I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah. But then
Speaker 1: she's like you didn't leave the house at all, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 2: Like I'm on trial here by the fucking I'm cooking
Speaker 2: spaghetti for the baby.
Speaker 1: I had to do working things sorvy.
Speaker 2: I mean, they do talk about the how COVID really
Speaker 2: like they're like, COVID happened. It taxed adults executive functioning
Speaker 2: because like now we no longer have like a at
Speaker 2: work division. It's like we're always kind of at work.
Speaker 2: But then after COVID they say that, you know a quote,
Speaker 2: modern life is stretching everyone's mental capacity to the brink.
Speaker 2: The experts I spoke with point to the endless interruptions
Speaker 2: and cheap dopamine hits of our digital devices as one
Speaker 2: obvious culprit, like in addition to research suggests that the
Speaker 2: digital world can warp our perception of time, which would
Speaker 2: logically affect how well we manage our time, which, yeah,
Speaker 2: that makes sense. These are like the apps are designed
Speaker 2: by people who like in the past used to do
Speaker 2: psychological experiments on like rats and shit, Like now they're
Speaker 2: designing apps to make it so that we can't tell
Speaker 2: how much time has passed. Like the the weirdest experience
Speaker 2: I've ever had, I think it was the angry like
Speaker 2: playing Angry Birds when that was the thing and like
Speaker 2: the late aughts and like just being like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: like forty minutes just disappeared and I didn't notice it
Speaker 2: at all. Like it's just like it was like time
Speaker 2: traveling TikTok.
Speaker 1: I definitely time travel on TikTok, which yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not proud of how many times I've gotten the Hey, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: you've been scrolling an awful lot. Maybe put this shit down.
Speaker 1: Like even the fucking dope dealer.
Speaker 3: Was like, hey, come on, man, give it the TikTok
Speaker 3: apps say that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like one of the next videos that would come up
Speaker 1: was like from the TikTok community thing where someone was like, hey,
Speaker 1: just remember you know when you're scrolling a lot to
Speaker 1: take a break or whatever, And I'm like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck an hour, fifteen minutes has gone by.
Speaker 2: You've got a beard? Yeah, the yeah, but I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's in addition to you know, this thing that used
Speaker 2: to be reserved for like the hardest job in the
Speaker 2: world of like being president, like the red phone on
Speaker 2: your desk, like you also have a casino in your
Speaker 2: pocket with like apps for work and like media consumption
Speaker 2: and like all these things like those are all designed
Speaker 2: to addict you and just like get you lost, like
Speaker 2: lose you in time and space.
Speaker 1: So it's it's funny when they go like modern life,
Speaker 1: it's like you're talking about late stage capitalism.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, fucking assholes, that's what don't Let's thanks for
Speaker 9: the euphemism, But like people are being ground to dust
Speaker 9: for nothing, and like in other times, and maybe your
Speaker 9: wages were actually substantial, then at least you could like
Speaker 9: do something because you had some kind of excess income
Speaker 9: to like blow your steam off.
Speaker 1: But now people have to have multiple jobs just to
Speaker 1: fucking get by, and you're on call all the time,
Speaker 1: Like maybe talk about that rather than your company being
Speaker 1: like and we're giving out yoga mats on Monday, so
Speaker 1: come by. Yeah, exactly, we love it. We love a
Speaker 1: wellness program.
Speaker 2: They do talk about the wellness programs article.
Speaker 3: It spooks me how these apps too are Like like TikTok,
Speaker 3: I didn't use until when they were when it was
Speaker 3: like going to be banned. Yeah, I downloaded it because
Speaker 3: I was like, I want to see what this is
Speaker 3: like everyone loves it and I won't have the risk
Speaker 3: of being addicted to it because it's about saying to
Speaker 3: be banned, right, But obviously that didn't happen, and I
Speaker 3: downloaded it, and now I'm addicted to TikTok. But it's
Speaker 3: wild to me how every third TikTok is an ad
Speaker 3: and yeah, there's a shop within the app, like I mean,
Speaker 3: Instagram is addictive too, but it's it's not a little
Speaker 3: more selling to me, Like the way TikTok is like
Speaker 3: put your credit card in this app, oh right, now,
Speaker 3: press the button and you can buy a new hair brush,
Speaker 3: which I did, you know, Like Instagram will be like
Speaker 3: your hair Yeah, Instagram now go to their website to
Speaker 3: go by the thing where we're still a buffer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even now like people are live with their
Speaker 1: TikTok shops, like where you can just go on your
Speaker 1: own like handheld QVC show where you're watching somebody's oh
Speaker 1: fucking candy or whatever. I'm luckily every third video. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've I've definitely weaned myself off of the tiktoks as
Speaker 1: at least when I was like peak tiktoking, like at
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. That was a bad run. That was
Speaker 1: a bad run for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's uh yeah, so I don't know. It
Speaker 2: just feels like a thing that I always like, my
Speaker 2: my most hopeful self is like we're gonna look back
Speaker 2: on this the way we did smoking and be like, man,
Speaker 2: I can't believe we did that to ourselves. But I
Speaker 2: also like, I don't know, like I could also see
Speaker 2: it just being like worse and worse and like we
Speaker 2: look back on this and be like, oh, those are
Speaker 2: the good old days before everything was so seamless that
Speaker 2: we just like lived in Wally universe where it was
Speaker 2: just like we were constantly in a slipstream of like consumption.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I see it's slowing down because I
Speaker 1: I mean, when you think about it, it's replacing so
Speaker 1: many quote unquote normal human things we used to do,
Speaker 1: like socialize or like fucking even like read books. Like
Speaker 1: there was a new thing about how Americans are falling
Speaker 1: off like with reading so quickly. It's like wild, Like
Speaker 1: I think there's a study it was twenty eight percent
Speaker 1: of people who've read for pleasure in two thousand and four.
Speaker 1: It's at sixteen percent in twenty twenty three. And it's
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, it just keeps falling off. It keeps
Speaker 1: falling off, Like people don't even read for pleasure in
Speaker 1: the UK.
Speaker 2: Eighteen percent of people read for pleasure in the twenty
Speaker 2: three in the United States.
Speaker 3: Jeez, that's bleak.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Twitter counts right, I can read.
Speaker 3: Yeah, twit was that was a veriable.
Speaker 1: I mean, because it's like many it's because it's not
Speaker 1: just like the technology, it's also like our education system,
Speaker 1: like it's multifaceted, it's purely not that. But like I
Speaker 1: also see now how people like are they just find
Speaker 1: pleasure from their phones? Yeah, and that's such a fucking
Speaker 1: grim reality.
Speaker 3: We're saying something earlier about like how it's replacing normal
Speaker 3: daily activities, like the availability through smartphone, and I definitely
Speaker 3: found that, Like when I stopped, I did try to
Speaker 3: go back to a dumb phone, but it's almost impossible,
Speaker 3: like the way that work, it works for people, and
Speaker 3: like social life works for people, you really are removing
Speaker 3: yourself from the way everyone's functioning now and right right
Speaker 3: it is a pretty isolating thing, is what I discover it.
Speaker 3: And it can work if you're okay with that, But
Speaker 3: also like everyone else is assuming that you're on the
Speaker 3: same wavelength as them, like you're able to be in
Speaker 3: an I message group chat, or you're going to hit
Speaker 3: them back on Instagram if they invite you to something
Speaker 3: like there, it's really hard to maintain a social life
Speaker 3: without a smartphone. It's just you have to do it
Speaker 3: so differently and the world doesn't built for that anymore.
Speaker 1: Or I don't like how I'm or how I did it,
Speaker 1: like pre smartphone in high school, like there's that one
Speaker 1: friend who always knew what was going on, so that Hey,
Speaker 1: what's going on.
Speaker 2: I'm not on Instagram? Can you tell what's happening this weekend? Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. I used to laugh at Jenine
Speaker 2: Garoffalo because she was like I remember in the aughts,
Speaker 2: she was like the last person I had heard of
Speaker 2: who was like, yeah, I don't really go online, I
Speaker 2: don't mess with like digital anything. I was like, okay, Jenny, Okay.
Speaker 2: Tom Hanks from Castaway sounds good. And now I'm I
Speaker 2: am that person where I'm just like I mean, I'm not,
Speaker 2: but like I be that and like, oh that is
Speaker 2: like that sounds right to me. That's like that is
Speaker 2: the ideal. I mean it's not possible, but.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we're so much of the digital era
Speaker 1: has allowed people to lose their teather to like the
Speaker 1: real simple things that keep us present as human beings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know where people are experiencing like moments of nature
Speaker 1: through a phone screen. When I get like when you
Speaker 1: in a city or something, it's not as readily available
Speaker 1: to you, but there are just certain sensations that you
Speaker 1: get from your body from just being present that are
Speaker 1: so fulfilling in a way that I feel like we
Speaker 1: lose track of shit like that, and it's so easy
Speaker 1: to get swept up in well that the nonsense I'm
Speaker 1: seeing on my phone is my entire reality, when like
Speaker 1: if you just look up and around you, that's not
Speaker 1: what's unfolding in front of your eyes. It's something completely different,
Speaker 1: And I think reminding ourselves of that is so fucking important.
Speaker 2: We talked last week about how there's these AI kitten
Speaker 2: videos that are just like a series of images of
Speaker 2: this really chubby, adorable orange cat, not always like they
Speaker 2: don't always look exactly the same, but like it's something
Speaker 2: that the AI is iterating on and like you just
Speaker 2: like see horrible things happen to the cat, like really
Speaker 2: sad things. Well, like people are feeling like this outpourent people,
Speaker 2: like a lot of the reposting of it, These are
Speaker 2: going like hugely viral, and a lot of the reposting
Speaker 2: of it as people being like, uh not me, like
Speaker 2: crying at this video of this chubby cat that's clearly AI.
Speaker 2: And I was like I had this really like bleak
Speaker 2: vision of like outside of if you're like completely looking
Speaker 2: at this from the outside, it's like we're cut off
Speaker 2: from each other and from like interaction with nature, and
Speaker 2: so we have robots making videos that are just like
Speaker 2: milking us of our normal human interactions like that. It's
Speaker 2: like a fucking like mechanical like calf's mouth that is
Speaker 2: like milking a cow and like a milking factory, and
Speaker 2: like we're just sitting there being like I feel the
Speaker 2: emotion and like moving forward with that shit. And it's
Speaker 2: just like that, and they're doing it to extract like
Speaker 2: our feelings but also like extract time from us so
Speaker 2: that we stay we're expressing this natural human emotion and
Speaker 2: we're like, okay, that is where I get that emotion
Speaker 2: now and stay there. Yeah, exactly right by things.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, slippery fucking slope, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh no, we're fully.
Speaker 2: We're mid uh, we're right in the middle of the
Speaker 2: slippery you.
Speaker 1: Know when you see somebody like slipping on ice and
Speaker 1: like the first because they haven't quite gone down. We're
Speaker 1: like maybe on that third step where you still think
Speaker 1: you got it.
Speaker 2: Man, We're we are parallel to the ground.
Speaker 3: We are once we.
Speaker 1: Actually hit our head terribly five years ago, and now
Speaker 1: we still we're.
Speaker 3: Slipping on the bump bump the size of a grapefruit
Speaker 3: on our forehead. Yeah yeah, screaming down the hill.
Speaker 2: There's a there are two birds flying around our house,
Speaker 2: flying around our heads.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think we need to bring back being bored,
Speaker 3: sitting sitting outside, staring at nothing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm still I'm always impressed when I don't
Speaker 1: have my phone, and I'm just not even like being
Speaker 1: like high or anything, like I can just purely be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I've been staring at this thing for like five minutes
Speaker 1: and it's just like a tree.
Speaker 2: Great, let's move on.
Speaker 1: Let's move on because that Oh god, it's time to
Speaker 1: feel bad for these kids, man, Jack. We got to
Speaker 1: protect these kids.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying, but it does feel like you're
Speaker 2: just like, I don't know, it's like a losing battle, right,
Speaker 2: not a losing battle necessarily, but yeah, like I think
Speaker 2: about that. There's this Onion headline that's like a quote
Speaker 2: unquote cool dad exposing his kids to like a bunch
Speaker 2: of cultural references that will have them completely cut off
Speaker 2: from their generation. It's like a dad showing his kids,
Speaker 2: like stop making sense with the talking heads, And I
Speaker 2: think about that all the time because I'm like, am
Speaker 2: I doing that because I'm not letting them like play
Speaker 2: rollblocks and shit like that. But like I kind of
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck, Like I don't know, yeah.
Speaker 3: I think don't give a fuck about that. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean not making sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, trippy because like I said, my mom took
Speaker 1: me to see a fucking Italian art film about a
Speaker 1: famous Castrado singer. My dad showed me David like you know,
Speaker 1: fucking Naked Lunch and eraser Head when I was way
Speaker 1: too young I was, and but they also like didn't
Speaker 1: I wasn't fucking with video games still like late in
Speaker 1: the game because they weren't buying me that shit. But
Speaker 1: the things I still think about, like with like great
Speaker 1: admiration and love and appreciation was just all this different
Speaker 1: shit that I was exposed to, because that completely expands
Speaker 1: what you think, like that the the deck of possibilities
Speaker 1: you know, in your mind, like especially with art and
Speaker 1: things like that.
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's ere like.
Speaker 1: I can't believe I was exposed to this, these kinds
Speaker 1: of human human artistic expression as a child, Like you
Speaker 1: really fucking kept me on the wrong foot my entire life.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think showing your kids stop
Speaker 1: making sense is totally good. You start showing the Max
Speaker 1: Headroom clips the.
Speaker 2: Shit that even I don't think is cool. Finn. Such
Speaker 2: a pleasure having you. Thank you so much for staying
Speaker 2: with us for so long. On the daily side, guys,
Speaker 2: where can people find you? Follow you? Hear you all
Speaker 2: that good stuff?
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. Y'all are wonderful.
Speaker 3: My name is Argus. It's uh that on all the
Speaker 3: all the things. I I'm about to put out some
Speaker 3: music too, so if you want to listen to that,
Speaker 3: it'll just be my name. Got an album coming out.
Speaker 2: Completely not kids bop, No, it's.
Speaker 3: Adult spop now I'm trying to Yeah. And then of
Speaker 3: course I got the podcast One of Us with Chris
Speaker 3: Renfro and that is being released every week, so if
Speaker 3: you want to check that out, it's an improv interview
Speaker 3: podcast and it's very silly and fantastical.
Speaker 1: Chris artistic director now yeah, yeah, Chris is the artistic
Speaker 1: dress director at UCBC b l A.
Speaker 3: Congrats to Chris.
Speaker 2: Congrats to Chris, and we big give a big congrats
Speaker 2: to Chris Renfro.
Speaker 3: Fives for Chris Refro.
Speaker 2: Going to do more on this episode. We fucked up.
Speaker 2: We're you know, our our marketing team is you know
Speaker 2: telling us incorporate more booms into our show. We don't
Speaker 2: have a marketing team.
Speaker 3: Finn I give you all five booms.
Speaker 2: We thank you for That's what we've been looking for.
Speaker 2: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 3: A work of media? Yeah, yeah, I've been listening to
Speaker 3: the album Live at Revolution Hall by Adrian Linker, and
Speaker 3: it is like forty to fifty songs and a lot
Speaker 3: of them are just like lo fi cassette recordings or
Speaker 3: live performances on stage and.
Speaker 2: It's really good.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and it's very slow and a little boring.
Speaker 3: So yeah, get you something something to sit with for
Speaker 3: an hour and a half if you've got the timer,
Speaker 3: attention span.
Speaker 2: Wonderful miles Where can people find you? Is there a
Speaker 2: working media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Sophia and
Speaker 1: I will be back with for twenty Day Fiance next week,
Speaker 1: so you could count on that. A work of media
Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying is at Rogers naf dot besky Dot
Speaker 1: Social posted Florida man appoints himself chair of the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty eight Olympics. Who does that? And it's a photo
Speaker 1: of Hitler? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's so.
Speaker 2: That's so. You can find me on Twitter, Jack Underscore
Speaker 2: o Brian on Blue Sky Jack ob the number one
Speaker 2: working media I've been enjoying. I don't know did I
Speaker 2: shout out Josh Sharp's show today that I saw when
Speaker 2: I was back in New York.
Speaker 1: I think I might have forgotten too, maybe not with me.
Speaker 2: So funny. Everybody who is in New York should go
Speaker 2: check that shut out. It's so funny. It's in it's
Speaker 2: also in the West Village, and it's right next to
Speaker 2: one of my favorite pizza places in New York, Bleaker
Speaker 2: Street Pizza. So you can make a great night of it.
Speaker 2: You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at
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Speaker 2: can go to the description of this episode wherever you're
Speaker 2: listening to it, and there at the bottom you will
Speaker 2: find the footnotes where we link off to the information
Speaker 2: that we talked about in today's episode. We also link
Speaker 2: off to a song that we think you might enjoy, Miles,
Speaker 2: is there a song that you think that people might enjoy?
Speaker 1: Continued to listening to Antone Exem's musical career. The former
Speaker 1: NFL safety turned like psych pop musician who is again
Speaker 1: I think making the to me the best music I've
Speaker 1: heard from a former professional athlete, especially a football player.
Speaker 1: This is like one of his early tracks called Dark
Speaker 1: Kept Secret, and it feels like a demo for like
Speaker 1: a TV on the radio track or something just really chill.
Speaker 2: His vocals are really cool, very tune day like.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Dark Kept Secret by Exem e Xum.
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