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Speaker 1: Finn, You're a kicky girl and I'm a nasty gal.

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Speaker 2: to season four or four, Episode four of Dirnely Guys.

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Speaker 2: It's a production by Heart Radio. It's a podcast we're

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Speaker 2: taking deep to have into American chair conscience. It says Thursday,

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Speaker 1: It's also National Kiyanti Day. To compare that with some

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Speaker 2: Cheese Pizza Day. Okay. I hope Lazy Mom's Day was

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Speaker 1: In nineteen fifty seven by Rick Stebling.

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Speaker 1: I guess this National Lazy Mom's Day again.

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Speaker 3: And it was a conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was a lot of fun conversation about

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Speaker 2: Second, Rachel, We're doing fine.

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Speaker 1: SOULDI for that Heart of Glass. Okay, been a Minnehannah

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Speaker 1: Good morning, good morning, Good morning, Finn. Gotta say bit

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Speaker 3: This is just some Yeah, it's a it's like a show,

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Speaker 3: Oh best times to visit Japan I looked up recently?

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Speaker 2: Good good, good, good good. That's good. That's a real way.

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Speaker 2: Edward Edwin Jonker, How's how's the celebrity or you know

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Speaker 2: a person who I'm watching on something? Height is always

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Speaker 3: But he looks great doing it, and that is ultimately

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Speaker 1: What I've heard, the trajectory you've been on, coming from

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Speaker 2: But I think we can in this one instance. Yea, say,

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Speaker 1: That main should be posted on Maine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, you know, you know this whole thing.

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Speaker 2: All right, quickly, we'll move on to the next thing.

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Speaker 3: Something I think is underrated is I just finished watching

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Speaker 1: That's that's when I kept asking my parents about an

443
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: X Men movie as a kid.

444
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, when are they going to make the movie?

445
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 5: Or this?

446
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: When's the movie? Like you gotta wait, gotta wait?

447
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,959
Speaker 3: Have a potential recommendation for kids, and well Dragon ages

448
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 3: yeah great. And then also there is another show called

449
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 3: The Dragon Prince and I'm sorry, like my hyperfixation is animation.

450
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: I watch it all the time, so I could go

451
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: on and on and on.

452
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

453
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, The Dragon Prince is amazing and it's a lot

454
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 3: of TV. I think it's like seven seasons, maybe even more,

455
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 3: but it's pretty dragon heavy, and they talk and they

456
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 3: have personalities not.

457
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: All an out here too.

458
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really great. It's actually one of the producers

459
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: I think of Avatar, the Last Airbender made thish Okay,

460
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 3: I see a Parallel might have been one of the

461
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 3: creators too, But the voice of Sokka is the main

462
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: character in this show and it's great. It's also I

463
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 3: think like not enough people watched it. But that's how

464
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: I feel about Like all of my underrated things are

465
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 3: just animated shows that no one's heard of. Like Infinity Train,

466
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: Oh my god, is the best show ever. I just

467
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: found out a mutual friend of mine wrote on it.

468
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 3: I had no idea and it's so good, but you

469
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: can't find it anywhere because it was lost in the

470
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 3: merger of like Warm.

471
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: One of those Yeah, fucking there's so many fucking shows

472
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: like that.

473
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: And it's so many animations too. Like a couple of

474
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: my favorite shows are just nowhere to be found now,

475
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 3: right Infinity Train, Summer Camp Island, and I would literally

476
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying, don't torrent, No, no one torrent ever except

477
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: for maybe.

478
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: If you do want to watch these shows, then you should.

479
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: Except for Metal, you really shouldn't because of like that's

480
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: really bad to do. But yeah, or find or find

481
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: maybe some people from the crew and vemo them some

482
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: money out of guilt.

483
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: You know, you should yeah, actually that's the sweet thought.

484
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: I'll yeah, sorry, I just bit torrented the whole series.

485
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: Here's like thirteen bucks. Can you slip that amongst everyone?

486
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: So, did you steal from the oil industry? Yes? Then

487
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: why would you steal from the film indo? I said, yes,

488
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: all right, the first flock. I gotta stop using the

489
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: oil industry. That's the worst example. Let's from the cops.

490
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break. We'll come back, talk overrated

491
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: and get into some news. And we're back and Finn,

492
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: we do like to ask our guests on this show,

493
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 2: in addition to what's something you think is underrated, what's

494
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 2: something you think is overrated?

495
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, I was thinking about this a lot

496
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 3: over the last couple of days, and I was trying

497
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 3: to come up with something more interesting. But the answer

498
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: I kept on coming back to is just chocolate.

499
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: Wow, chocolate in general.

500
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, chocolate and being right were the two things that

501
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: that kept on popping up for me.

502
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: Do you think you're right about this take about chocolate

503
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: being overrated?

504
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 3: I honestly don't care either way. It is good you're liberated.

505
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: I'm liberated. I like being wrong. I like admitting when

506
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, and I like failing at stuff.

507
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I gotta go to that therapist. You're

508
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: talking about the big blue building on Fountain, right, Yeah,

509
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: that's the one. Yeah, okay, I'm gonna blue building on Fountain.

510
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 6: Yeah.

511
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 3: My therapist is really cool. He's been in a lot

512
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 3: of Mission Impossible movies.

513
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: That's sick, okay, so encouraging her lot of energy, like

514
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 2: almost an overpowering amount of energy.

515
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: It has the energy of someone who sicks too, but

516
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: is ultimately five seven five.

517
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 6: Yeah.

518
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see in person, you don't know it. You

519
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: like most actors that I see in person, I'm like, wow,

520
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: much smaller than I was expecting. Tom Cruise walked past him.

521
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: I think he might have been hovering a few inches

522
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: off the ground, so that might.

523
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: Have me Nicole Kidney, she hovers. Oh yeah, yeah, she's

524
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 3: gonna never see her toes touch the ground.

525
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: She has fucking ourra She moves through wat she moves

526
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: through the earth like in a Spike Lee floating shot.

527
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: This is funny because you asked about Mars Attacks. There's

528
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: a there's a character in Mars Attacks. There's like this

529
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: big alien woman and she like when she moves, you

530
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: don't see her take steps like she's wearing a long

531
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: dress and she just glides.

532
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: That's it.

533
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: That was what Nicole Kimmer was doing ye when I

534
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: saw her anyway. But chocolate, really, yeah, chocolate, I don't know.

535
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 3: I mean it's good and I'm not saying it isn't,

536
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: but I think people are just obsessed with it and

537
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 3: it freaks me out. Sometimes it's just like like, yeah,

538
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 3: it's good, but could you shut the fuck up for

539
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 3: a second.

540
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: Wait, what's give me an example of someone who is

541
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: obsessed with chocolate that is feeding this over it up.

542
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't like chocolate that much, but I

543
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 3: can't be that it's good. But then people are like

544
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: are dying for it, like they want chocolate cake. It's

545
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: double fudged chocolate with chocolate frosting. And I'm like, can

546
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 3: we take a breath? Like can we throw some some

547
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: like vanilla butter cream on here?

548
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: No?

549
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 3: As they wear yeah, and then they me hard and

550
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 3: I don't understand.

551
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 4: Know.

552
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: There's like chocolate stores, Like I walk into a chocolate

553
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: store and I'm like, okay, yeah, but it's all chocolate.

554
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: What is there?

555
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: There's a chocolate dispensary in Echo Park that's like called this,

556
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: and so many people walk in thinking that it's a week.

557
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: They're so wet like weed chocolate, and I'm just like,

558
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: that's how they get your ass.

559
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: It's chocolate.

560
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: It's for people, purveyors of chocolate. And you want the

561
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 2: people who are already high to then go into the

562
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: chocolate store. Then people trying to get high, but maybe

563
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: like they'll remember by some miracle that they went into

564
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: the chocolate store after they find the real dispersery. Yeah,

565
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: I'm making a joke about.

566
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: Munchies, you got, Yeah, the monkeys. I have been there though,

567
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: and I was just like, these are all just chocolate, chocolate, right,

568
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: And the one thing they I was I was like

569
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 3: excited to try. They had a shot of chocolate of

570
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: like melted chocolate and and you know what, it was

571
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: just chocolate, you know, like it was And I think

572
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: that I personally, y'all got it right the first time,

573
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: Like a chocolate bar is great, put it on it's more,

574
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: that's fine, but it's gone too far and I have

575
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: to put my foot down. I do think chocolate is overrated.

576
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: This ends today.

577
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one time I had something that was chocolate

578
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: that was new and I was like, oh, okay, that's

579
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: something different was when I went to Spain, like and

580
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: they drink hot like they're hot chocolate.

581
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: Did you like a churo out there? I was like, oh,

582
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: this is a fucking vibe kind of half hot chocolate,

583
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: half like melted chocolate. It was like so rich, thick. Yeah, yeah,

584
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: it's you're basically doing dippies.

585
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: Now look at us, we're going off like a couple

586
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: of Chocolate's what I'm talking about. Like this is bring

587
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 4: up on someone's podcast that chocolate's overrated and they're like, actually,

588
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: that makes me think about how fucking good chocolate different.

589
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: It'll change your life.

590
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: It's it's it's unexpected.

591
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 7: You think it's going to be a solid, but it's

592
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 7: it's drinkable and you can dip your chiro into it

593
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 7: and achiro. This is what I'm talking about. Like people

594
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 7: are obsessed with chocolate and that's fine. It's just I

595
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 7: personally think it's. Yeah, it doesn't do much for me.

596
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: It does remind me of like people who are like

597
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: I don't eat, Like, I wouldn't waste my calories on

598
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: a sweet thing like that unless it has weed in it,

599
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: you know, like that that's a just specific things. Yeah, calorie, yeah, yeah,

600
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: being like, well, that's a that's wasted if it doesn't

601
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: have weed in interesting. You know people who are like

602
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: weed in everything. I don't know. Maybe I just know

603
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: like a couple of people like that.

604
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've.

605
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: Been listeners, he's not taking shots of me, because that's.

606
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: Not I'm not You're not a weed food consumer.

607
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't need to eat weed all the time.

608
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: That's like I don't even like. I don't even like

609
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: edibles because they just make me sleepy. I don't get

610
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: like those that I see other people off edibles.

611
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the ya relationship to weed? Are y'all out here?

612
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: Weed and I have been in love since junior high?

613
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah we're sweethearts. Yeah we were sweethearts.

614
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: Bout your sweethearts? Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And

615
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: I'm sober so I don't partake. Also, when I wasn't

616
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: sober and I smoked weed, I would have a nervous

617
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: breakdown every time, and I kept doing We powered through

618
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: a Jackie because I wanted to be cool.

619
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: I will be a pothead if it's the last thing

620
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: I do.

621
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: I just want to be chill, like everybody else. You

622
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: just age so fast because of the stress. Every time

623
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: I smoke weed, I age like a president. Oh my god,

624
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: you are so like Lincoln in eighth grade.

625
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: I I feel that I stopped h smoke looking about

626
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: it a year ago. But I'm I'm sober, and yeah

627
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: I do. I do miss it sometimes, But uh, I've

628
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 3: never had that inkling to like. I don't. I don't

629
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: like edibles. They always freaked me out. They made me

630
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: feel crazy. Yeah, I don't know.

631
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: No, you're on the right track.

632
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: You're on your way to being becoming a quarter fin

633
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: and then you want to focus on that.

634
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: You stay off the weed. You got beautiful hair, You're

635
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: going to be an LSD become.

636
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: Next time we have Finn on, they might be a

637
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: quarter Poe entirely.

638
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: My therapist did give me actionable items, and so every

639
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: day I'm one step closer.

640
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: Let's do that quarter affirmation every morning.

641
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: You are a quarter.

642
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: You are you are even though I'm not a quarter.

643
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: I wholly and completely accept myself even though I'm not

644
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: a quarter yet, I wholly and completely accept myself.

645
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: Now that's a quitter's mentality. You just have to nuts

646
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: you got to do it. You need. You got to

647
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: accept yourself, and that's part of the e f T.

648
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, like my other what was the under underrated thing

649
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: or overrated like failing?

650
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, being right?

651
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 3: Being right is overrated.

652
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, that's true. Love. I love to admit

653
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: that I'm wrong. Yeah, I love to learn that I'm wrong,

654
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: and then yeah.

655
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: I love to learn from the listeners I'm wrong, and

656
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: then I ignore it exactly because my ego cannot handle it.

657
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah, No, I get it. I think I

658
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: kind of like the process. I do feel like dumb,

659
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: so it is it is helpful to kind of embrace that.

660
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. The only people I

661
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Speaker 2: trust are people who can admit that they're dumb a

662
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Speaker 2: lot of the time. Oh yeah. Well, one thing you

663
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Speaker 2: can do when if somebody is saying something that suggests

664
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Speaker 2: that you're wrong, is you can drown them out with

665
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Speaker 2: a jet engine. Is something that I've seen attempted fairly recently,

666
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: such as on Wednesday afternoon, when a group of women

667
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Speaker 2: that have suffered abuse from Jeffrey Epstein and Gilane Maxwell

668
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: held a press conference with representatives Thomas Massey and Rocanna

669
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Speaker 2: to speak out talk about that some for the very

670
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Speaker 2: first time, and yeah, it was powerful.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean every person that spoke, they were

672
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Speaker 1: all urging members of the House to back the discharge

673
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: petition that Thomas Massey is trying to get through, basically

674
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Speaker 1: saying like, if they get enough signatures, they can force

675
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Speaker 1: a vote and put everyone in the House like to

676
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: a vote to be like, are you going to release

677
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Speaker 1: the Epstein files?

678
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 3: Yes?

679
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 2: Or no? I Mean, I don't know what that will

680
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Speaker 2: do long.

681
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: Term, but hopefully enough people will support it. And that's

682
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: what was one of the points of this press conference

683
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: was to actually bring these survivors out to humanize them,

684
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Speaker 1: to show that this is not a fucking hoax. These

685
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: are human beings that suffer untold fucking horrors with Epstein,

686
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: Maxwell and all of the associates, and you know, all

687
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: of everything that these women said was like really powerful

688
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: about how like the lack of transparency and justice has

689
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: like prevented them from like being able to move forward

690
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: with their lives and like even be able to so

691
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: many things are hazy to them because of the trauma

692
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: that like they are having trouble piecing together what even

693
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Speaker 1: happened to them. And like I said, many emphasize that

694
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: Trump's like hoax defense is just bullshit because what they

695
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: experienced was very real and requires justice swiftly. But in short,

696
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: the press conference was a blow to Trump and the

697
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: idea that this whole saga is some kind of Joe

698
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: Biden's smear campaign. But like you said, Jack, Trump was

699
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: probably not doing well with the idea of these people

700
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Speaker 1: speaking publicly because you ordered to fucking military jets to

701
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Speaker 1: do a flyover near the capital as a way to

702
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Speaker 1: interrupt them.

703
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Speaker 2: Is that like that that's definitely that's just so yeah,

704
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: it's just like so transparent. I don't know. Again, Like

705
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 2: I've talked before about like I took a week off

706
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: of the show and came back and like the first

707
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: thing that hit me is just like how obviously guilty.

708
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: Everything he's doing is like being against the release of

709
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Speaker 2: the files just from the start. It's like so just

710
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: suddenly being like, actually, I don't think we should release

711
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: him at all. It is like so wild to do.

712
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 2: To use your power as the commander in chief of

713
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Speaker 2: the military to stage military jet flyovers to drown out

714
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: the words of victims that you are implicated in is

715
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: just like, I don't know.

716
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 3: It's the behavior of a middle school boy who knows

717
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: he's losing an argument, where you start saying that, yeah, really, like,

718
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: won't let you finish your sentence.

719
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: I'm plugging my ears with jet engines. I can't hear you.

720
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Speaker 1: I have f eighteens flying over strategic flyover during this,

721
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: Like it was known days before though too, that this

722
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Speaker 1: was going to happen alongside this press conference. So like

723
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: when it happened, it was just really fucking just menacing

724
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Speaker 1: and disturbing. So the timing was wild too. So here

725
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play a clip from Shanta Davis, one of

726
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: the survivors, being asked, you know, whether or not she

727
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Speaker 1: was asked like someone from the press, like, can someone

728
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Speaker 1: you speak about Epstein and Maxwell? How they said that

729
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: they knew Donald Trump? And she s gets up to

730
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Speaker 1: the podium to begin to speak, and then we get

731
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Speaker 1: a bit of a military Hey, how are you My first.

732
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Speaker 6: Trip to the Palm Beach residence, I drove there from

733
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Speaker 6: the airport with Glenn Maxwell and the Jeffrey and Elynn

734
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 6: were always very boastful about their friends, their famous or

735
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 6: powerful friends, and his biggest brag forever was that he

736
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 6: was very good friends with Donald Trump. He had an

737
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Speaker 6: eight by tim framed picture of him on his desk

738
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Speaker 6: with the two of them, like they were very close.

739
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Speaker 1: So you can hear a little bit of that. So

740
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Speaker 1: it gets even like that was just like the tail

741
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Speaker 1: end of one because prior to that, Sorry, just real.

742
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 2: Quick, do you have any like eight by ten framed

743
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: pictures of you and your friends? I mean I think, like,

744
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess it's a question. Are you

745
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: a person with like pick like desk pictures, like a

746
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 2: lot of pictures on your desk.

747
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: No, I'm not a desk picture person, but I have

748
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, before the house burned out, we have like

749
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: a hall of friendship photos where like all the homies

750
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Speaker 1: were represented in photographs on your desk, not on my desk,

751
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: but in but very prominently in my home to know,

752
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: like these are the important people in my life.

753
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Speaker 2: On your desk feels like that is where people have

754
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Speaker 2: the leicture.

755
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Speaker 1: That's yeah, yeah, I have, Yes, I have the geist

756
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: child and her majesty. Yeah, my wife and child. That

757
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: those are photos that I have.

758
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: This is what I have on my picture that on

759
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: my desk. That's it. It's me and my wife my kids.

760
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 3: Right, And can I also say, like that's a normal

761
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 3: size eight by ten is crazy eight by ten?

762
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: That's printer paper like a four by six.

763
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, just some massive print out like you

764
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: have to special order that.

765
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, bigger. I want people to really know

766
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: how good of friends we are. So just before that,

767
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: Anushka to Georgio is another survivor, spoke about how appalled

768
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Speaker 1: she was to hear that Glenne Maxwell was transferred to

769
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: Club fed you know, like a super low security prison,

770
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Speaker 1: in a move that, like, given the crimes that she

771
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: was convicted of, violates every procedural, procedural norm and regulation

772
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: that exists, like within the president yeah, within the you know,

773
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: thecarcial system of the United States. This is her speaking

774
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Speaker 1: and very again strategically.

775
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

776
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: The jets are flying over constantly, but it's it's interesting

777
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: when she's speaking specifically, and I'll get to that in

778
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: a moment.

779
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 8: After this, I was horrified when I found out not

780
00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 8: only had Helen Maxwell been transferred to what it's called,

781
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 8: you know, a low security it's really is like a

782
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Speaker 8: like a holiday camp.

783
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 5: And then afterwards I got a notification from the Department

784
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Speaker 5: of justice telling me that this was going to happen

785
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Speaker 5: when it had already happened, this woman abuse children.

786
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Speaker 2: That's loud enough that literally everybody inside there's like thirty

787
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: people inside the frame of this news press conference, and

788
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: everybody is like looking up. That's a yeah, Like I

789
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: obviously this is coming through a microphone that is like

790
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: supposed to be drowning out background noise, and still it's

791
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: like deafening. And to be there in person, it seems

792
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: like it was just overwhelming, like chest rattling.

793
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just menacing to hear those plans

794
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: just fly over. But again the flyover brief, it didn't

795
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: deter these women. And Annushka de Georgio happens to have

796
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: a very specific relationship to Trump because she was introduced

797
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: to him by Gallaine Maxwell in nineteen ninety seven. And

798
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: at the time the press in the UK was talking

799
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: about this relationship between this woman and Donald Trump. It

800
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: was like Trump's britt, Trump's brit of all right, just

801
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: weeks after ditching his second wife, America's best known billionaire,

802
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has fallen under the spell of a twenty

803
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: year old English girl. Yeah, yeah, she's a witch, imply

804
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: that she's a witch.

805
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: What the fuck are they talking about?

806
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: So then the way it was written about in the nineties,

807
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: it's just now like now, knowing what we know, it

808
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: sounds so ominous. So quote Trump met London model and

809
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: a Nushka de Georgio at a party in Manhattan. Several

810
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: American millionaires already had their eyes on her, but she

811
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: was there with Robert Maxwell's daughter, Gilaine, who was introduced,

812
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: who has introduced several of her attractive friends to the

813
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: property developer. The article goes on to say, quote Trump

814
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: flew Madame Maxwell, which you're like, what wow? So they

815
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: know sure, and the model south to the Sunshine State,

816
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: where all three enjoyed a happy weekend together. When they

817
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: returned to New York and Nushka was installed in one

818
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: of Donald's many apartments.

819
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Speaker 3: There, Jesus Christ installed as crazy word.

820
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: That's not you don't install a person, You install furniture,

821
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: you install software.

822
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: You can install an armed guard. I feel like I've

823
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 2: heard it in that context before, like they've installed armed guards.

824
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 2: That the you know, you don't you don't install.

825
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: I guess maybe could be a human being, but serves

826
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: a very specific singular function. Yes, exactly, which is just anyway,

827
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: and then you know she spoke like she testified against

828
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: Gallaine Maxwell she was basically being abused by Jeffrey Epstein,

829
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: and after that, Epstein just handed her over essentially.

830
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: And this is someone who has has.

831
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: A story to tell, for fucking sure, just reading that

832
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: thing about how the three of them were kicking into

833
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: Florida and then later she was installed in one of

834
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 1: his apartments. I mean, That'ssari like rather than the DOJ

835
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: like asking the convicted predator doing Jim Maxwell, ask.

836
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: Him Maxwell what her version of events is. We have

837
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: victims who have like said they're victims.

838
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: As to them, who's above board not the person who's

839
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: the perpetrator of the crime. Anyway, It's it was a

840
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: very very fucked up moment. But again, I mean this

841
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: just all of this has brought even more emphasis and

842
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: more pressure now on Republicans to sort this out, and

843
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: they're trying everything they can, Like they're just doing like

844
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: the Oversight Committee like released a statement that sort of

845
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: like it wasn't really like a lawful resolution. But it's

846
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: like the DOJ will release the documents because we asked

847
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: them to at a time that they want it's like

848
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: very It's not like Kawhi Leonard's like, you know, contract, yeah,

849
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: treat Flaker. It's like if they feel like they can

850
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: opt out at any time. So there's nothing really binding

851
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: about this, but at least we get to say we

852
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: did something.

853
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it's a he couldn't look any more guilty.

854
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: And then like you hear that story and it's like, well,

855
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: so there's a trafficking victim that was introduced in quotes

856
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: to him by the trafficker in question, Like, what else

857
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: do you possibly need? Like, I don't understand how this

858
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: is not blaring from the front pages of every fucking newspaper.

859
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, no, it's wild how fast the conversation around

860
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: this has died down to me, like it should be

861
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: everywhere all the time.

862
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it definitely died down in like

863
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: the little the six or four weeks last four weeks

864
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: or so, when Mike Johnson hit the panic button and

865
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: was like, get everybody out of DC because we can't.

866
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Speaker 1: We don't want to be asked any more to pass

867
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Speaker 1: something or vote on something related to the evacuated the building. Basically, yeah,

868
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Speaker 1: And now that they're back, though, i'd say, the pre

869
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: Sure campaign is right back where I guess it is,

870
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 1: but we'll see what.

871
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it's getting as much pick up.

872
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: I'll say that, like, I think you're right, finn It

873
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 2: feels like it's died down in terms of the mainstream

874
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: media's pickup of it.

875
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: And they're because who knows what threats are being thrown

876
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: around by this administration already. I mean, you've already seen

877
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: We've already seen newsroom after newsroom capitulate to the administration,

878
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: and even what you hear from Congress people saying that

879
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 1: Trump is personally calling people to be like, don't even

880
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: fucking think about voting for this shit. Yeah, you can

881
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: only imagine what kind of other intermediaries they used to even.

882
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 2: Chill the press even more, right, the press already pretty chill.

883
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: So that's very chill. Yeah, chill. All right, let's take

884
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about bad

885
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 2: things the phone, our phones are doing to us. We'll

886
00:45:53,440 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: be right back and or back and just two slightly

887
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: related stories about things, bad things smartphone doing to our

888
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: brain and bad things smartphone doing to our assholes. Okay,

889
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: so apparently it significantly raises the risk of getting hemorrhoids.

890
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: According to a study, Those described in a CNN article

891
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: that presumably a lot of people read while sitting on

892
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: the toilet.

893
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: Oh so not just using a smartphone will give you hemorrhoids.

894
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 2: It's sitting on the toilet with it. Yeah, using it?

895
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 3: Well, okay, is it sitting on the toilet specifically or

896
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: is it just like sitting anywhere?

897
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: I think they're specifically sitting on the toilet. Reportedly, quote,

898
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: regular smartphone use on the toilet was associated with a

899
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: forty six percent greater risk of having hemorrhoids because apps

900
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: are designed to distract us and people are losing track

901
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: of time. And sitting on the toilet for a long

902
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: time is especially bad because the open toilet seat compresses

903
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: the rectal area.

904
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: There's nothing underneath there just to support your rectum, so

905
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: it's just a light to push.

906
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: Your rectal floor. Is getting a get to rouse? Yeah,

907
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: And this is related to this other story I saw

908
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: recently about the growth of executive function coaches to fix basically,

909
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: you know, they're like, well, all of a sudden, we're

910
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 2: seeing people who have worse ability to follow through on tasks,

911
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: and like basically executive function is this new term for

912
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: our brain's ability. It's like they consider it like our

913
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 2: brain's air traffic controller that can like kind of juggle

914
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: tasks and allows you to do a job where there's

915
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 2: like multiple important tasks and you have to like choose

916
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: which one to do.

917
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, like impulse control and just keeping track of shit, right.

918
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, keeping track of things like navigating friendships on top

919
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: of your job on time. People are like feeling very overwhelmed.

920
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: And in the past, so this was usually used to

921
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: describe like a deficiency in people with ADHD and people

922
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: like on the spectrum, and they found that these executive

923
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: function coaches could help people, like when you would give

924
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 2: them an executive punk, a coach that focused on executive function,

925
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: it would like help them improve. But now like everyone

926
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: is having these same problems, and it seems pretty obvious

927
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: to me that it's because everyone is working all the time.

928
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: An on call in the middle of the night, Like

929
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: it's like that used to be the thing that you

930
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: would see it in movies, where like it was a

931
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: cop would get a call.

932
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: In the middle of the night, or like a CIA officer, yeah,

933
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: or the president or just.

934
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 3: Robin Williams and any of his characters.

935
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: Robin Williams would have just a red phone. That was like,

936
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: we've got to get Robin Williams on the phone. But

937
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 2: now we all have that like red phone on them,

938
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: you know, on the desk that like and it can

939
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: ring at any time and you're like, oh, there's an emergency.

940
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: And now it's funny. The article that's writing about this,

941
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: I think was in like Business Insider, and so they

942
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: keep kind of going back and forth. The description is like,

943
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: you know, we have more distractions today than ever, like

944
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: kind of fault is partially our fault. You know, we're

945
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: digitally We're just a digitally distracted bunch of silly billies.

946
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, just since everyone wanted to design algorithms

947
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: that keep people stuck to their phones God.

948
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: And cut off your IV drip of tiktoks to do

949
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 2: your job.

950
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 3: They they got me good though. I was kind of

951
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: like very anti smartphone before twenty twenty, and then lockdown

952
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: happened and I was just lonely. So I got an

953
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 3: iPhone and I have not been the same since.

954
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: Oh you were off the iPhone prior to lockdowns?

955
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: I well, yeah, but it wasn't like I did have

956
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: an iPhone at like before then, and then I switched

957
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: to like a dumb dumb phone. Wow, and that was

958
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: great and I actually loved it. And I haven't been

959
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 3: able to justify going back to it though, because like

960
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: this article is saying, like the scaffolding of workplace environments

961
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 3: that I'll designate start and end times is like gone

962
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 3: now yea, So I feel this pressure, and I think

963
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 3: everyone does to feel like available for work stuff, oh

964
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven, or even for like friendships too,

965
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 3: Like it was really nice having this stupid phone because

966
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: it was so hard to text, and I would just

967
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 3: call people and I would make plans and then I

968
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 3: would meet at that place at a certain time, and

969
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 3: it just there wasn't a lot of changing of plans

970
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 3: or if someone canceled then I'd just be alones somewhere

971
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 3: for a bit. And that was actually nice too.

972
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: That's okay, you get a little bit of alone time.

973
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 2: We were just talking about this trend that I was

974
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: listening to another podcast where they were talking about people

975
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: like sharing their location so that friends can like track

976
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: the location of other friends, and it was like they

977
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: were they were At first, I was like, oh, they're

978
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: gonna talk about how weird that is. And then the

979
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: two hosts of the show were like, yeah, and we

980
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: do that and that's like normal, but you just like

981
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: can't be a weird stalker about it. I'm just like

982
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: even that like feels like extra being on all the time,

983
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: Like just always having everybody like have access to you

984
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 2: anytime you want. Feels like like rough environment for a

985
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: human brain to exist in.

986
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: I don't we already live in like a metaphorical panopticon,

987
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: so to make it the real thing to be like no,

988
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: and they know where I am at all, I'm always

989
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: being watched is a little whatever.

990
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I do that.

991
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: Her majesty is always like can you share your location

992
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: with me? And I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah. But then

993
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: she's like you didn't leave the house at all, And

994
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck is this?

995
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: Like I'm on trial here by the fucking I'm cooking

996
00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 2: spaghetti for the baby.

997
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: I had to do working things sorvy.

998
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: I mean, they do talk about the how COVID really

999
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 2: like they're like, COVID happened. It taxed adults executive functioning

1000
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: because like now we no longer have like a at

1001
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: work division. It's like we're always kind of at work.

1002
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: But then after COVID they say that, you know a quote,

1003
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: modern life is stretching everyone's mental capacity to the brink.

1004
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: The experts I spoke with point to the endless interruptions

1005
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: and cheap dopamine hits of our digital devices as one

1006
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 2: obvious culprit, like in addition to research suggests that the

1007
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: digital world can warp our perception of time, which would

1008
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: logically affect how well we manage our time, which, yeah,

1009
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: that makes sense. These are like the apps are designed

1010
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 2: by people who like in the past used to do

1011
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: psychological experiments on like rats and shit, Like now they're

1012
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: designing apps to make it so that we can't tell

1013
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 2: how much time has passed. Like the the weirdest experience

1014
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 2: I've ever had, I think it was the angry like

1015
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: playing Angry Birds when that was the thing and like

1016
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: the late aughts and like just being like, oh my god,

1017
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: like forty minutes just disappeared and I didn't notice it

1018
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: at all. Like it's just like it was like time

1019
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: traveling TikTok.

1020
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: I definitely time travel on TikTok, which yeah, I'm not

1021
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm not proud of how many times I've gotten the Hey, motherfucker,

1022
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,479
Speaker 1: you've been scrolling an awful lot. Maybe put this shit down.

1023
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: Like even the fucking dope dealer.

1024
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 3: Was like, hey, come on, man, give it the TikTok

1025
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 3: apps say that.

1026
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1027
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: Like one of the next videos that would come up

1028
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: was like from the TikTok community thing where someone was like, hey,

1029
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: just remember you know when you're scrolling a lot to

1030
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: take a break or whatever, And I'm like, what the

1031
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: fuck an hour, fifteen minutes has gone by.

1032
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: You've got a beard? Yeah, the yeah, but I don't know. Yeah,

1033
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: it's in addition to you know, this thing that used

1034
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: to be reserved for like the hardest job in the

1035
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: world of like being president, like the red phone on

1036
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 2: your desk, like you also have a casino in your

1037
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: pocket with like apps for work and like media consumption

1038
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: and like all these things like those are all designed

1039
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: to addict you and just like get you lost, like

1040
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: lose you in time and space.

1041
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: So it's it's funny when they go like modern life,

1042
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: it's like you're talking about late stage capitalism.

1043
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, fucking assholes, that's what don't Let's thanks for

1044
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 9: the euphemism, But like people are being ground to dust

1045
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 9: for nothing, and like in other times, and maybe your

1046
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 9: wages were actually substantial, then at least you could like

1047
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 9: do something because you had some kind of excess income

1048
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 9: to like blow your steam off.

1049
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: But now people have to have multiple jobs just to

1050
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: fucking get by, and you're on call all the time,

1051
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: Like maybe talk about that rather than your company being

1052
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: like and we're giving out yoga mats on Monday, so

1053
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: come by. Yeah, exactly, we love it. We love a

1054
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: wellness program.

1055
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: They do talk about the wellness programs article.

1056
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 3: It spooks me how these apps too are Like like TikTok,

1057
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 3: I didn't use until when they were when it was

1058
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: like going to be banned. Yeah, I downloaded it because

1059
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: I was like, I want to see what this is

1060
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 3: like everyone loves it and I won't have the risk

1061
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: of being addicted to it because it's about saying to

1062
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 3: be banned, right, But obviously that didn't happen, and I

1063
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 3: downloaded it, and now I'm addicted to TikTok. But it's

1064
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: wild to me how every third TikTok is an ad

1065
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: and yeah, there's a shop within the app, like I mean,

1066
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 3: Instagram is addictive too, but it's it's not a little

1067
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 3: more selling to me, Like the way TikTok is like

1068
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 3: put your credit card in this app, oh right, now,

1069
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 3: press the button and you can buy a new hair brush,

1070
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: which I did, you know, Like Instagram will be like

1071
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 3: your hair Yeah, Instagram now go to their website to

1072
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: go by the thing where we're still a buffer.

1073
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even now like people are live with their

1074
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: TikTok shops, like where you can just go on your

1075
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: own like handheld QVC show where you're watching somebody's oh

1076
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: fucking candy or whatever. I'm luckily every third video. Yeah,

1077
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: I've I've definitely weaned myself off of the tiktoks as

1078
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: at least when I was like peak tiktoking, like at

1079
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. That was a bad run. That was

1080
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: a bad run for me.

1081
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's uh yeah, so I don't know. It

1082
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: just feels like a thing that I always like, my

1083
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 2: my most hopeful self is like we're gonna look back

1084
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 2: on this the way we did smoking and be like, man,

1085
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 2: I can't believe we did that to ourselves. But I

1086
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: also like, I don't know, like I could also see

1087
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 2: it just being like worse and worse and like we

1088
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: look back on this and be like, oh, those are

1089
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: the good old days before everything was so seamless that

1090
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: we just like lived in Wally universe where it was

1091
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Speaker 2: just like we were constantly in a slipstream of like consumption.

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00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I see it's slowing down because I

1093
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean, when you think about it, it's replacing so

1094
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: many quote unquote normal human things we used to do,

1095
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: like socialize or like fucking even like read books. Like

1096
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: there was a new thing about how Americans are falling

1097
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: off like with reading so quickly. It's like wild, Like

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00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: I think there's a study it was twenty eight percent

1099
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: of people who've read for pleasure in two thousand and four.

1100
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: It's at sixteen percent in twenty twenty three. And it's

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00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, it just keeps falling off. It keeps

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00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: falling off, Like people don't even read for pleasure in

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00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: the UK.

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00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: Eighteen percent of people read for pleasure in the twenty

1105
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: three in the United States.

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00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 3: Jeez, that's bleak.

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00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Twitter counts right, I can read.

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00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, twit was that was a veriable.

1109
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: I mean, because it's like many it's because it's not

1110
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: just like the technology, it's also like our education system,

1111
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: like it's multifaceted, it's purely not that. But like I

1112
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: also see now how people like are they just find

1113
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: pleasure from their phones? Yeah, and that's such a fucking

1114
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: grim reality.

1115
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 3: We're saying something earlier about like how it's replacing normal

1116
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 3: daily activities, like the availability through smartphone, and I definitely

1117
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 3: found that, Like when I stopped, I did try to

1118
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 3: go back to a dumb phone, but it's almost impossible,

1119
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: like the way that work, it works for people, and

1120
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 3: like social life works for people, you really are removing

1121
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 3: yourself from the way everyone's functioning now and right right

1122
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 3: it is a pretty isolating thing, is what I discover it.

1123
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 3: And it can work if you're okay with that, But

1124
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 3: also like everyone else is assuming that you're on the

1125
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 3: same wavelength as them, like you're able to be in

1126
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 3: an I message group chat, or you're going to hit

1127
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 3: them back on Instagram if they invite you to something

1128
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 3: like there, it's really hard to maintain a social life

1129
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 3: without a smartphone. It's just you have to do it

1130
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 3: so differently and the world doesn't built for that anymore.

1131
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: Or I don't like how I'm or how I did it,

1132
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: like pre smartphone in high school, like there's that one

1133
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: friend who always knew what was going on, so that Hey,

1134
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: what's going on.

1135
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: I'm not on Instagram? Can you tell what's happening this weekend? Okay, Okay,

1136
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. I used to laugh at Jenine

1137
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: Garoffalo because she was like I remember in the aughts,

1138
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 2: she was like the last person I had heard of

1139
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 2: who was like, yeah, I don't really go online, I

1140
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: don't mess with like digital anything. I was like, okay, Jenny, Okay.

1141
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: Tom Hanks from Castaway sounds good. And now I'm I

1142
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: am that person where I'm just like I mean, I'm not,

1143
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: but like I be that and like, oh that is

1144
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: like that sounds right to me. That's like that is

1145
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: the ideal. I mean it's not possible, but.

1146
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: Well, I think we're so much of the digital era

1147
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: has allowed people to lose their teather to like the

1148
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: real simple things that keep us present as human beings. Yeah,

1149
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: you know where people are experiencing like moments of nature

1150
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: through a phone screen. When I get like when you

1151
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: in a city or something, it's not as readily available

1152
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: to you, but there are just certain sensations that you

1153
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: get from your body from just being present that are

1154
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: so fulfilling in a way that I feel like we

1155
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: lose track of shit like that, and it's so easy

1156
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: to get swept up in well that the nonsense I'm

1157
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: seeing on my phone is my entire reality, when like

1158
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: if you just look up and around you, that's not

1159
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: what's unfolding in front of your eyes. It's something completely different,

1160
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: And I think reminding ourselves of that is so fucking important.

1161
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: We talked last week about how there's these AI kitten

1162
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: videos that are just like a series of images of

1163
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: this really chubby, adorable orange cat, not always like they

1164
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: don't always look exactly the same, but like it's something

1165
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: that the AI is iterating on and like you just

1166
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: like see horrible things happen to the cat, like really

1167
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: sad things. Well, like people are feeling like this outpourent people,

1168
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: like a lot of the reposting of it, These are

1169
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: going like hugely viral, and a lot of the reposting

1170
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: of it as people being like, uh not me, like

1171
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: crying at this video of this chubby cat that's clearly AI.

1172
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: And I was like I had this really like bleak

1173
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: vision of like outside of if you're like completely looking

1174
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 2: at this from the outside, it's like we're cut off

1175
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: from each other and from like interaction with nature, and

1176
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: so we have robots making videos that are just like

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01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 2: milking us of our normal human interactions like that. It's

1178
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: like a fucking like mechanical like calf's mouth that is

1179
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: like milking a cow and like a milking factory, and

1180
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: like we're just sitting there being like I feel the

1181
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: emotion and like moving forward with that shit. And it's

1182
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: just like that, and they're doing it to extract like

1183
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: our feelings but also like extract time from us so

1184
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 2: that we stay we're expressing this natural human emotion and

1185
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 2: we're like, okay, that is where I get that emotion

1186
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: now and stay there. Yeah, exactly right by things.

1187
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, slippery fucking slope, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1188
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: oh no, we're fully.

1189
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: We're mid uh, we're right in the middle of the

1190
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 2: slippery you.

1191
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: Know when you see somebody like slipping on ice and

1192
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: like the first because they haven't quite gone down. We're

1193
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: like maybe on that third step where you still think

1194
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: you got it.

1195
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 2: Man, We're we are parallel to the ground.

1196
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 3: We are once we.

1197
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: Actually hit our head terribly five years ago, and now

1198
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: we still we're.

1199
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 3: Slipping on the bump bump the size of a grapefruit

1200
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: on our forehead. Yeah yeah, screaming down the hill.

1201
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: There's a there are two birds flying around our house,

1202
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: flying around our heads.

1203
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think we need to bring back being bored,

1204
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 3: sitting sitting outside, staring at nothing.

1205
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm still I'm always impressed when I don't

1206
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 1: have my phone, and I'm just not even like being

1207
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: like high or anything, like I can just purely be like, Okay,

1208
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: I've been staring at this thing for like five minutes

1209
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: and it's just like a tree.

1210
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: Great, let's move on.

1211
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: Let's move on because that Oh god, it's time to

1212
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: feel bad for these kids, man, Jack. We got to

1213
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: protect these kids.

1214
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 5: Man.

1215
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying, but it does feel like you're

1216
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 2: just like, I don't know, it's like a losing battle, right,

1217
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 2: not a losing battle necessarily, but yeah, like I think

1218
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: about that. There's this Onion headline that's like a quote

1219
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 2: unquote cool dad exposing his kids to like a bunch

1220
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: of cultural references that will have them completely cut off

1221
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: from their generation. It's like a dad showing his kids,

1222
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: like stop making sense with the talking heads, And I

1223
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: think about that all the time because I'm like, am

1224
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 2: I doing that because I'm not letting them like play

1225
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: rollblocks and shit like that. But like I kind of

1226
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck, Like I don't know, yeah.

1227
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 3: I think don't give a fuck about that. Yeah yeah,

1228
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 3: I mean not making sense.

1229
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, trippy because like I said, my mom took

1230
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: me to see a fucking Italian art film about a

1231
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: famous Castrado singer. My dad showed me David like you know,

1232
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: fucking Naked Lunch and eraser Head when I was way

1233
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: too young I was, and but they also like didn't

1234
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't fucking with video games still like late in

1235
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: the game because they weren't buying me that shit. But

1236
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: the things I still think about, like with like great

1237
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: admiration and love and appreciation was just all this different

1238
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: shit that I was exposed to, because that completely expands

1239
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: what you think, like that the the deck of possibilities

1240
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, in your mind, like especially with art and

1241
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: things like that.

1242
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's ere like.

1243
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: I can't believe I was exposed to this, these kinds

1244
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: of human human artistic expression as a child, Like you

1245
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: really fucking kept me on the wrong foot my entire life.

1246
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think showing your kids stop

1247
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: making sense is totally good. You start showing the Max

1248
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: Headroom clips the.

1249
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 2: Shit that even I don't think is cool. Finn. Such

1250
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: a pleasure having you. Thank you so much for staying

1251
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: with us for so long. On the daily side, guys,

1252
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: where can people find you? Follow you? Hear you all

1253
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: that good stuff?

1254
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. Y'all are wonderful.

1255
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 3: My name is Argus. It's uh that on all the

1256
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 3: all the things. I I'm about to put out some

1257
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 3: music too, so if you want to listen to that,

1258
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 3: it'll just be my name. Got an album coming out.

1259
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 2: Completely not kids bop, No, it's.

1260
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 3: Adult spop now I'm trying to Yeah. And then of

1261
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 3: course I got the podcast One of Us with Chris

1262
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 3: Renfro and that is being released every week, so if

1263
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 3: you want to check that out, it's an improv interview

1264
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 3: podcast and it's very silly and fantastical.

1265
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: Chris artistic director now yeah, yeah, Chris is the artistic

1266
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: dress director at UCBC b l A.

1267
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 3: Congrats to Chris.

1268
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 2: Congrats to Chris, and we big give a big congrats

1269
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 2: to Chris Renfro.

1270
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 3: Fives for Chris Refro.

1271
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: Going to do more on this episode. We fucked up.

1272
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 2: We're you know, our our marketing team is you know

1273
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,439
Speaker 2: telling us incorporate more booms into our show. We don't

1274
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: have a marketing team.

1275
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 3: Finn I give you all five booms.

1276
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: We thank you for That's what we've been looking for.

1277
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.

1278
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 3: A work of media? Yeah, yeah, I've been listening to

1279
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 3: the album Live at Revolution Hall by Adrian Linker, and

1280
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 3: it is like forty to fifty songs and a lot

1281
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 3: of them are just like lo fi cassette recordings or

1282
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 3: live performances on stage and.

1283
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 2: It's really good.

1284
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and it's very slow and a little boring.

1285
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, get you something something to sit with for

1286
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 3: an hour and a half if you've got the timer,

1287
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 3: attention span.

1288
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 2: Wonderful miles Where can people find you? Is there a

1289
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 2: working media you've been enjoying?

1290
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Sophia and

1291
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: I will be back with for twenty Day Fiance next week,

1292
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: so you could count on that. A work of media

1293
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying is at Rogers naf dot besky Dot

1294
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: Social posted Florida man appoints himself chair of the twenty

1295
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: twenty eight Olympics. Who does that? And it's a photo

1296
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: of Hitler? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's so.

1297
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 2: That's so. You can find me on Twitter, Jack Underscore

1298
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 2: o Brian on Blue Sky Jack ob the number one

1299
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: working media I've been enjoying. I don't know did I

1300
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 2: shout out Josh Sharp's show today that I saw when

1301
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: I was back in New York.

1302
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: I think I might have forgotten too, maybe not with me.

1303
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: So funny. Everybody who is in New York should go

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Speaker 2: check that shut out. It's so funny. It's in it's

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Speaker 2: also in the West Village, and it's right next to

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Speaker 2: one of my favorite pizza places in New York, Bleaker

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Speaker 2: Street Pizza. So you can make a great night of it.

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Speaker 2: You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at

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Speaker 2: Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram. You

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Speaker 2: can go to the description of this episode wherever you're

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Speaker 2: listening to it, and there at the bottom you will

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Speaker 2: find the footnotes where we link off to the information

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Speaker 2: that we talked about in today's episode. We also link

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Speaker 2: off to a song that we think you might enjoy, Miles,

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Speaker 2: is there a song that you think that people might enjoy?

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Speaker 1: Continued to listening to Antone Exem's musical career. The former

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Speaker 1: NFL safety turned like psych pop musician who is again

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Speaker 1: I think making the to me the best music I've

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Speaker 1: heard from a former professional athlete, especially a football player.

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Speaker 1: This is like one of his early tracks called Dark

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Speaker 1: Kept Secret, and it feels like a demo for like

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Speaker 1: a TV on the radio track or something just really chill.

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Speaker 2: His vocals are really cool, very tune day like.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Dark Kept Secret by Exem e Xum.

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Speaker 2: We will link off to that in the footnotes. The

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Speaker 2: ap Apple podcast. Wherever you listen to your favorite shows,

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Speaker 2: that's going to do it for us this week. We're

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Speaker 2: back on Saturday with the highlights from the week the

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Speaker 2: Weekly Zeitgeist, and then back on Monday with a whole

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Speaker 2: last episode of the show and we will talk to

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Speaker 2: you all then have a great weekend.

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Speaker 3: Bye.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Zeit Guys is executive produced by Catherine Law.

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Speaker 3: Co produced by Bee Wang.

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Speaker 1: Co produced by Victor Wright, co written by J M

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Speaker 2: Edited and engineered by Justin Conner,