WEBVTT - Miles Mikolas joins CT 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:06.760 Welcome back to Cardinal Territory. 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:09.440 I'm your host, Katie wu here with the very special 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:12.520 guest Miles Michaelis is our player interview today. We are 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:15.480 recording on Monday, April fourteenth, but you are seeing this 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:19.720 on Wednesday, April sixteenth. Miles one of my personal faves. 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:21.360 Always great to see you. Thank you so much for 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:22.120 doing this today. 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:24.840 Thanks for having me on a little a little bit 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:26.400 of free time before I head into the field. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.280 So I thought this would be this would be fun. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.880 Yeah, I think so let's just go right into it. 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.880 Your your fresh off a bounce back start, five innings, 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.960 three yearn runs, and we've talked to like all spring 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.839 and early season about the things that you're doing differently 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:45.240 this year in terms of sequencing and essentially sounds weird 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.599 not throwing as many strikes. Is that a difficult concept 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:50.720 for you to fathom at first? 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:55.080 Maybe a little bit, because you know, I grew up 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:59.720 watching baseball a certain way and like reading certain you know, 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.080 I had, you know, when I was in middle school, 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.760 in high school, I had all the pitching books, you know, 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.440 the Leo Mazzoni and the Noan Ryan Pitcher's Bible and 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:09.360 all those things. 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:12.680 And even in some of those books. 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:14.559 Like they talk about like those two one two counts, 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.040 you know, hitters are vulnerable. Hitters are vulnerable. A lot 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.040 of guys are just trying to put the ball in play. 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.520 And you can throw a quality pitch fairly close or 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.039 in the strike zone on the edges, and you know, 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:27.919 I feel like the hitters approach. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.520 Guys used to not like to strike out. So you 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.720 saw a lot of like just oh, I want to 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:34.080 put it in play kind of. 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:35.840 Some of the two strikes, guys just trying not to 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.640 strike out. And if you're nibbling at the edges of 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.880 the zone and throwing strikes in those counts and the 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.760 guy hitting has that mentality, you know, you're throwing quality pitches, 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.840 quality strikes, and he's popping up and he's grabbing out 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.400 and rolling over. But the way the game has changed, 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.520 the way they with analytics and they value guys and 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.720 they value players, guys don't have like a two. A 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:02.280 lot of players don't have this two strike. I don't 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.920 want to strike out, like check swing. There's a handful 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:06.760 of guys, we know who they are. You know, they 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.440 back it up with two strikes. They're just trying to 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.160 sheet stuff, you know, down the first baseline, stand alive 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.400 waist and pitches. But most guys are still trying to 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:17.760 get off their a or you know, aus type swings 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.600 even with two strikes, you know, trying to do damage 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.160 and stuff like that. So all of a sudden, throwing 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.720 pitches that are you know, anywhere close to the zone. 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:28.920 It's it's almost like not even worth it. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.600 So so like for the philosophies and things to change 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.520 is different. It's also interesting to be around the game 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:42.400 long enough to see those those shifts. And you know, 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:46.840 I've you know, drafted an nine you know, minor leagues 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:51.119 debut in twelve, so it's been you know, thirteen years 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.120 since my big league debut and I had my little 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.360 Japanese hiatus, and this is my ninth here in the league. 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:01.000 But I can only imagine the the changes that you know, 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.919 the guys before me, like Wainwright and YACHTI saw from 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.359 you know, two thousand and six, you know to two 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.080 thousand and twenty five, how much the game change. So 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.240 it's it's an interesting thing to be a part of 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.240 something I kind of embrace a little bit. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.320 Yeah, And that's a great point. I mean, it's it's 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.600 hard to stay in this league. It's hard to return 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.920 to this league after some hiatuses if you will. Yeah, 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.160 I think what what people forget is like the longevity 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.040 of this league says something about who you are as 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.680 a pitcher and what you do. And it's adaptability that 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.760 keeps you in this game. It can be really hard 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.519 to tell a picture. Hey, you need to stop throwing strikes, 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.600 which I know is not exactly crazy, but to simplify it. 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:42.200 And and it's it's not to say I'm not throwing strikes, 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:47.520 but I would rather have swinging strikes then because a 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.640 lot of guys also aren't looking anymore. They're not they're 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.680 not you know, anything close. Let a rip kid as 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.920 opposed to this, like you know, and there's there's older guys. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.760 There's older guys where you can throw that like o 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.680 too fastball, like down and away for the zone and 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:05.600 they'll just get it to you. 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.600 They're like, that's not my pitch. I'll give it to you. 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:12.280 And but but the majority of the league is you know, 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:13.880 if it's close, I'm swinging. 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.440 So all you have to do is like be close. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.200 You know, guys are on guys are on green from 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:21.000 from the get go. 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.120 As a majority, I think, so. 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.720 How do you incorporate what this new style? It's not 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.480 like a necessarily new style of pitch. And we talked 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.440 about this on Saturday, Like you've had swing and miss 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:33.200 in your game before. 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:34.960 It's just finding a different way to get there. 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:40.240 Yeah, and then and it's it's you know, with it's 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.560 another shift in the game, right because. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.200 It it all works together. 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.719 Right, So if I want to throw, you know, I 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:49.839 want to throw seven innings. 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:50.919 I want to throw nine innings. 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.120 I wanna through the whole game. They're not gonna let 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:56.279 me throw one hundred and twenty pitches unless it's like 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.960 a no hitter, right, They're gonna let you get two 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.599 hundred like wherever that is five innings, six. 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:03.440 Innings, seven innings. 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:06.160 If you're getting past one hundred pitch, it's like a 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.279 complete game shutout. Or you know, you're the ace, and 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.279 it's the playoffs, even the ace in the playoffs guys 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.599 getting pulled after one hundred pitches because bullpens are so stacked. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.560 I mean, the you know you've got guys coming in 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.800 the sixth seventh. It an't throw ninety seven to ninety 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.640 eight hundred miles an hour on some teams, and it's like, sure, 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.680 I'll get through five or six innings on one hundred pitches, Like, 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:29.919 you know, do. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:31.920 You have to be happy with that now? 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:36.839 I mean, when I came back in twenty eighteen, you know, 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.719 blessed with having a guy like Weno on the staff 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.600 and he's got all his one liners. You gotta go seven, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.800 you know, if you want the win, you gotta go seven. 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.359 Like that's the mindset. And he came up in the 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:51.160 early two thousands, mid mid you know, two thousand and six, seven, 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.240 eight nine, and there was that men title like you're 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.839 going seven innings regard, and that was almost like regardless 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:01.480 of how many pitches you're throwing, you're going hundred hundred 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.640 and ten hundred and twenty. They were just letting dudes go. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.320 With the injuries and stuff and all the information that 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.239 they're having and the way that they're you know, going 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.760 about it with everyone you know, doing what they're doing. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.640 You know that's changed and you just don't see it 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.640 as much. And it's you know, if I want. 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.599 To throw one hundred pitches, like I sidetracked back to 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.600 my ooser point, if I want to get seven in 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.080 in's and I only have one hundred pitches. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.279 I have to get some quick outs. I need contact. 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.440 And if I get a guy oh two, waste one 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:33.840 in the dirt, that's one two. 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.720 Maybe he'll chase a fastball up. Now it's two two. 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.000 Now it's you know, now he's battling. I'm battling. Now 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:41.120 I have to finish. Get that. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.839 So maybe I'm throwing something on the corners and he 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.280 fouls one or two off, and then maybe he takes 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:47.920 a close pitch and all of a sudden, I went 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.680 from O two and now it's full count and I've 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.680 thrown seven pitches chasing a strikeout. Now I have to 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.400 throw something where he's got weak contact, or maybe he 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:01.200 strikes out looking finally, or he just he doesn't want 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.039 to walk. He wants to hit so bad. I throw 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.080 like a slider in the dirty, swings at it. Maybe 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.160 they get the strikeout, maybe he grounds out, pap up 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.560 gets a hit. But either way, I've now seven or 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.040 eight pitches, when before I was like, oh two, Oh, 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:15.760 I'll throw like a little curveball down the way. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.120 Maybe in the strike zone he's off balance. 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.000 Maybe I sequence it right, and here's like my chopper 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:22.920 to short there's an out in three pitches. 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:23.480 I love that. 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.240 There's a time for that, and there's a time for 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.720 not that guy on third base, guy on second base, 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.640 two outs, go for the strikeout. 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:34.600 Don't let him put it in play, don't let him 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:35.000 bloop it. 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.840 So I think there's there there is a whole nuance 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:40.640 to it as a whole picture, like am I chasing 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.080 strikeouts from the get go? 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:44.960 Yes, I'd love to strike out everyone. 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:49.040 Every picture would say that I'd love to strike out everybody, 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.000 but that's not. 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:51.800 Always the case. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.560 And you know, you see guys rack up pitch counts 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.840 quick now because it's six or seven pitch to everybody 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.840 and he strikes out or walks or you know, gets 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.160 to full counter to two before the guy rolls over 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:07.600 or pops up. 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:09.520 Yeah, that's a good point. 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.360 And it's just everything. 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:15.040 It's like everything compounds, and it's where do you want 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.840 to be? I want to throw so many innings, but 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.640 if I'm giving up runs early because I'm trying to 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.760 do things on less pitches, well, I'm never going to 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.240 get to the six inning anyway, because I gave up 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.040 a couple of runs and now the bullpen's in the 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.280 game because the game's tight, it's a one run game, 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:35.520 as opposed to I got through five innings. 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.000 Great, Like you know, am. 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:41.240 I happy with that seven six years ago? No, because 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.160 I want to go seven because everyone, you know, everyone 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.200 wants to throw two hundred innings. 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.160 You know, or more like you want to be a workhorse. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.000 But what what teams are looking for? 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.720 That's that's more rare, and that's like more you know, 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:01.880 more difficult than ever to to hit, you know, numbers 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.560 like that. Teams are almost really just looking for you know, 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.080 they would love us six or seven innings, but if 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.600 you give them five innings or six innings of you know, 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:12.760 one two, three run ball and they can get the 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:16.680 bullpen involved and hope the offense clicks. You know, analytics 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:18.520 are saying like that's great and it and you know, 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.840 maybe it comes at the expense of you know, bullpen, 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.520 like using more bullpen you know, bullpen arms and stuff 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:28.320 like that. But you know, the what what teams want 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.920 I think is even changing. I think that's some of 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.040 the the overall issue with with baseball. 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:36.400 Yeah, I think that's I think you're spot on, because 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.720 this is not like you know, when I was growing up, 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.960 if you will, in high school and watching guys Adam's 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:42.440 gonna hate this. When I was watching Adam Wayne right 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.920 in high school, it was so. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.680 Was I in high school. So was I. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:49.560 There we go, see I'm not as bad. 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.240 It'd be seven innings, and now you're seeing more of 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.040 the five and dive is considered a good start because 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:56.640 there are It used. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.520 To be five and dive. It's not five and dive anymore. 0:09:58.520 --> 0:09:59.480 It's like pat them on the back. 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:03.480 You know. It's like, straight up, if you went five 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.880 innings with maybe even like eight strikeouts, that threw one 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:10.960 hundred pitches. Now, guys in the mid two thousands would 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:12.480 have been like man element five things. 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.800 They said, Hey, those strikeouts are great. I like it. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.400 I gave up to five innings. You know, it's you know, 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.400 you give your team a chance, is your starting pitcher, 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.959 keep your team in the game as long as you can, 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:28.480 and ideally save the bullpen from getting you know it 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:36.000 emptied out ideally, But yeah, it's things change. 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:37.200 Times are changing. 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.120 I want to get into a little bit about where 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.680 you're at physically right now, how do you feel you're pitching? 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:43.679 But first we got to do our first abage of 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.200 the day. So let's hear from our friends at. 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:48.440 PHG AJ it is time for people to get some 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.480 new clubs, and to do that they need to go 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.640 to their local PXG for a fitting, right. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.520 No doubt. I was there today, I've been there before. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:57.720 Last time I was there, they gave me this killer gap. 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.320 You look at that sweet spot, Scott, it is warm now. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.280 That is right in this sweet spot right there. So 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.840 I went and got new clubs today, new irons. But 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:06.760 more importantly, I got this bad boy. I got me 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.080 a new putter. This is my old putter. 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:08.600 It's on order. 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.480 Yes, that's my putter cover PXG Mustang putter. Now I'm 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.319 going to the Allen putter. They talked me into it 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.440 because I was draining some putts today. Bob, the guy 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.240 who helped me out. He helped me with my irons. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.720 You got them ted up perfectly. But then we went 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.360 to the putt and green. I was draining them putts 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:23.960 because that's the most important part of golf. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:28.280 PXG fittings are fun. Schedule you're fitting today, as you 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.000 can hear from AJ for a limited time, you could 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.080 save up to twenty percent on your entire order. Head 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:37.120 over to pxg dot com slash foul that's pxg dot 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.360 com slash foul to save up to twenty percent on 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:44.040 your entire order. Pxg dot com slash foul restrictions apply 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:45.559 see site for details. 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.559 Perfect segue. Because you're a golf guy, but only during season. Correct, 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:51.840 you don't golf in the off season? 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.800 Yeah, I you know, you only have I tell people 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:55.040 a lot. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.640 You have time for like one hobby in the off season, 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.240 even less than half a hobby if you have a 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.760 family in the off season. So my off season hobby 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.240 is fishing, but my end season hobby is mostly golf 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.240 because it's harder to find places to fish, you know, 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.160 when you're bouncing across the country. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.480 Okay, so who's your like go to teammate that you 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.520 play with? Do you have an ideal foursome? Like, what's 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.600 your ideal golf day on the road? 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.920 You know, ideally I like to get up early. My 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.120 most ideal golf on the road ever, has I think been. 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:37.320 We're playing Texas and the hotel we stay has a golf. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.240 Course on premise. Yeah, so like you just wake up. 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.040 You know, eat breakfast and go downstairs or even just 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.320 go play around at golf at eight o'clock, be the 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.200 first one out, and I'm the first one in at 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:52.400 like ten thirty. And I can need a late breakfast 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.439 and not have to go anywhere. But I like to 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.440 get up, get out early it's not too hot, and 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:57.800 played a lot of golf in summer. 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.079 Get it early, it's not too hot. And you know, 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.720 the foursome has changed over the years. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.079 From when I got here, I had the pleasure of 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.880 playing with guys like Adam Is a tremendous golfer, Bud 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.480 Norris one of the better golfers I've ever played with, 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:20.040 you know, Holland Waka Long. I mean, we had we 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:24.040 had some good some good golf groups in the past. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.719 And now it's a little bit different. There's not as 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:30.800 many golfers, but people are willing to go golfing. 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:35.559 Andre Is is like learning to golf, so he's fine golfin. 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.280 He's fun to take golfing. You know, Hellsley. 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.440 Is getting better at golf. If it's an off day, 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:48.040 the position players will get involved. Not as a great golfer, Sonny. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.440 I think of the guys I know that will beat 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.559 me on a golf course is probably like Sonny and Aeronauta. 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:55.240 Oh. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.200 I was not familiar with Sonny's game. I knew Nolan 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.520 was good. Sometimes he is really good, and I was 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:02.800 really good golfer. I don't notice about Sunny. 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:08.120 Sunny is a really good golfer. Steven Mattz can hit 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.200 the golf ball like a country mile. He got three 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.440 homers in the show. He swings right handed. And we 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:15.959 golf the other day and I was like, hey, man, 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.559 if if you approached golfing like your bullpen. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.400 You know you might be. He's like, He's like, no, man, 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.000 I see that ball sitting there on the team. I 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:24.960 just got to smash it. I'm like, all right, I 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:26.360 like that. I like that style. 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.920 Yeah, I'm that way most of the time. 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.160 But if my score gets two out of hand, I 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.840 try to try to rein it in a little bit. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.560 But we've got some good golfers. Everyone will golf a 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:42.480 little bit. Lars Siani, you know some other guys I 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.400 haven't golf with. Lebby said he's pretty good at golf. 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:48.080 I needn't get him on the golf course. That would 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:51.320 be fun. I just like being outside. You you know, 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.600 you wake up on the road. Some places are tough. 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.280 We're gonna we run up in the Mets in a 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.560 couple of days. That's a tough You know, you're in 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.840 the city. If you're gonna play golf, it's like taking. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.920 An hour to get there. You gotta get It's tough. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:07.680 You ALUs have to if you're gonna play golf in 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.240 New York, you have to really like go out out 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:13.160 of Long Island and then just hit City Field on 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.040 your way back in and then just take everything back 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.640 with the bus at night before. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.280 Except I left my clubs at the front. I went 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:22.800 out to satish Long Island. 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:24.720 I'm not bringing my clubs to the press box on 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:25.960 the subway, Are you kidding me? 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.880 It was I was linked to work. It was fun though. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:36.400 Yeah we got Yeah, and then I think Sonny has 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.200 has some really nice golf line up for us in Atlanta, 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:40.640 so I'm excited about that. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:43.040 Yeah. 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.880 It's like I said, I'd rather I'd rather be outside. 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.000 And every once in a while I'll go on like 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.640 golf now and just whatever course I can get. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.040 It's closed, if it's a dog track, if it's nice 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.680 not nice, I don't really care. Sometimes I show up 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.080 and I have someone with me. It's just like I 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:03.120 got like the random Yeah, who was it? It was 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.840 like last year and it was the you know, the. 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:07.640 Like the sixty five year old guy who plays the 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.840 course like every Wednesday for like the last twenty years, 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:13.680 and he's got the first tea time out and he 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.800 goes off by himself. But I signed up for too 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.440 because I'm trying to get and just golf with random guy. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.040 It's nice. I met him USU. He was a pretty 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:20.520 nice guy. 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:21.680 That's how you make friends. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.200 You'll have to you have to update me on how 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:24.960 the golf in Atlanta does. I don't know if you've 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.120 ever played golf with Pedro. He's been a victim on the. 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.960 Show's Good Golfer, but. 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.400 No one posted good shots. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.960 I think he's sandbagged me once, like the first time. 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:35.480 He's like, oh, I'm not in good at golf, Like 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.680 I'm not really good, And he had his first ball 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:39.600 like right down the mill and I was like, you lie, 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:41.520 people lying snake. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.160 Well there there's been a lot of a lot of 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.280 posts on Instagram on Twitter of all of his bad shots, 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.680 and he is he's he said it does. He doesn't 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.240 think it's very fair because no one ever posts the 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.600 good shots, but I don't know I get to one. 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:54.960 But apparently, yeah. 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:57.680 No one posts a picture of a minnow. It's always 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:58.440 a guy with the marlin. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:16:58.720 Right. 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:03.360 That's right, Miles, Where do you think you're at right now? 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.440 I mean, I know twenty three and twenty four did 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.280 not go the way you wanted, both from a team 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.560 performance and a personal performance. We'll call that Boston start 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.960 out the window. But I really thought on Saturday there 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.200 were some a lot of good things to look forward 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.280 or just to spin off of, especially coming after that 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:18.840 first inning. 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.280 Yeah, you know, you know, it's always nice to see 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.640 like weird swings when you throw some pitches, like guys 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.280 like the weird check swings or you know, guys not 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:29.800 seeing it. 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:31.000 I think maybe I was hiding. 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:34.680 The ball better the other day, you know, staying close 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:35.640 a little bit longer. 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.120 But you know, my you know, physically, my. 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:43.560 Body everything, everything feels great, which is one of those 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.760 things like you know, you do you want to like 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.720 be pitching great, but like maybe like you don't feel good, 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:52.800 like your body heards, you're like pitching through things, but 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.680 pitching the good or you know, I had a rough one, 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.439 but other than that, I feel good about my stuff. 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.960 I like my stuff, and like, physically I feel really good, 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:05.119 So I know that, you know, things will only tread 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:06.080 in the right direction. 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.040 Like I'm not battling anything. I'm not really battling any. 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:13.960 Like unnormal soreness as far as like throwing or baseball goes. 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.240 So I know that just as the season progresses, and 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.920 you know, there's like a running joke, my best fastballs 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:22.920 will come in August. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:27.240 Actually, yeah, you can actually go. 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.760 I've actually I've looked, because you know, every year you 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.280