1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: My girlfriend's going on a six week backpacking trip. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 2: With her ex. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 3: That feels like a little bit too close for comforting. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: Six six six weeks back with a weekend isn't even 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: like on the table. 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: I mean they're really close. They're like friends. Oh yeah, 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 3: like best friends. 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: Like same tent, kind of close for warm. 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: My girlfriend and I dated for half of twenty twenty two, 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: then broke up after about a year and a half apart. 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: We got back together last winter, and I've been together 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: again for about three months. During that year we were apart, 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: she had a relationship with a coworker who she was 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: also living with. She called it a situationship. By the way, 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: this comes from error prop on the arsash Okay storytime Bredditt. 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: So also during that year, they backpacked several hundred miles 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: of the PCT together, which which my friend. 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: Just did several hundred miles. That's intense. You did a 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: little like backpackag Yeah, I did the Colorado Trail, yes, 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: four fifty to fifty miles. Yeah, I said little, but that's. 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: A massive A little bit. I got much closer with 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: the verson I went with. 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 4: I'm sure my boy logan. 24 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 5: Oh, logan, yes, yeah, I remember crossing the country with 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 5: my boy Rax and. 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: You get close, you got you know, there's a lot 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: of time to kill. 28 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: They both moved to separate cities last fall after the hike, 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: but decided to remain friends and made plans to return 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: to hike another several hundred miles of the PCT this 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: upcoming summer. My girlfriend and I started talking again last fall, 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: about one month after they parted ways. While we were talking, 33 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: she invited me to join them over the summer, and 34 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: I planned to join for part of it about four weeks. 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: She never mentioned that they had any romantic relationship while 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: telling me about our time living with him plus his family, 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: or her time backpacking with him. I thought they were 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: just friends. 39 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: Yikes, yikes, it's such a red flash. So who's the 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: rebound in this situation? Yeah, it's kind of a double rebound. 41 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: Double rebound. 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 5: Well, technically they are friends, but she just forgot the 43 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 5: like first half of it. 44 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: They're just really friend any type of situationship means like 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: it's more about the stuff than it is about like 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It means you're not committed 47 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: to like the person, you're committed to their body a 48 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: six week long hike what did You Do personality. 49 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Pretty soon after officially getting back together a few months ago, 50 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: we were discussing boundaries and I told her explicitly that 51 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: I expected her to tell me if she had any 52 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: romantic history with any friends who are currently still in 53 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: her life, especially if me and her were going to 54 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: spend time with said person. She acknowledged how I felt, 55 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: and I appreciated it, but didn't mention anything about them. 56 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 5: Wait, so it's just her and the ex. 57 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to join. 58 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: But so he's like, hey, before we go on this trip, like, 59 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: you're gonna tell me if you've been roman any of 60 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: your friends. And she's like, I'm so glad you let 61 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: that boundary be known to me. Yeah. 62 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: A month later, we were discussing how the summer hiking 63 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: trip would go with the three of us. They would 64 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: be hiking without me for the first couple a few 65 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: weeks or tent nice and cozy. We were discussing the 66 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: tent situation. 67 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: You could sleep outside op yah, and she. 68 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: Mentioned wanting to sleep in a separate tenth in him 69 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: during the part of the trip that it was the 70 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: two of them. I was confused and asked why since 71 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: it made sense for them to share a tent, splitting 72 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: the weight of a two person tent, and then me 73 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: and her could have and then me and her could 74 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: have our own tent. When I joined them. 75 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: You're driving her into the arms of another lover. 76 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: He's like, why do you want your your own tent? 77 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: Just share? Yeah, just share a sleeping bag. 78 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: The clothes, actually, why wear any She seemed kind. 79 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: Of on the idea of them sharing, but didn't tell 80 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: me why. In retrospect, it seemed like she likely she 81 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: likely she herself wasn't comfortable with the idea of sharing 82 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: a tent with a former partner without telling me their history. 83 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: It seems like that's the opportunity to be like, No, 84 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: the reason I want to share this tent is because 85 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: of x y Z. 86 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 3: Like she's already had the opportunity when he made his boundaries, 87 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: and now she's like and now, I imagine like fels she 88 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: feels like the secret has kept and she'll to look 89 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: back in his eyes. Now she must keep the secrets. 90 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: She recently they told me about their history, and I 91 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: am very hurt. Of course, everyone has a right to 92 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: their own past, and I don't want or need to 93 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: know every detail of every guy she's ever been with. 94 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: But I feel very betrayed that she would hide her 95 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: history with someone that she was going to spend so 96 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: much alone time with and invited me to spend time 97 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: with them without telling me. To me, it feels very 98 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: relevant to know this information when it comes to former 99 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: partners who are currently in both of our lives in 100 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: a big way, spending one und percent of every day 101 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: together for six. 102 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: Weeks, It's just so ridiculousiculous it gets worse. 103 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: I directly told her I felt this way, but she 104 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: ignored me and omitted the information. I'm really hurt by 105 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: what is happening and feel like it would be hard 106 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: to trust her moving forward. From her perspective, I can 107 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: understand that she was afraid I would break up with 108 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: her after hearing this. She wouldn't want to tell me, 109 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: But I don't know why she would be worried about that. 110 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with being friends with 111 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: your exes. She is good friends with another AX of hers. 112 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: She would put him at one or two in terms 113 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: of closest friends told me, and I'm totally fine with it. 114 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: One or two has got a history, she collects a history. 115 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: At this point, you're in like a poly relationship. 116 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 6: You know, well maybe maybe well you could be you 117 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 6: be friends with axes though right Sam. 118 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: You could be friends with excees, but not one or two? 119 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: Well right now, it depends on how long ago and how. 120 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: Often how the relationship You're spending six weeks with them. 121 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm unsure about how to think about our future and 122 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: would love to hear some outside. 123 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 2: Opinions and there is an update. What do you think 124 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: my instincts are? 125 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: What are your instants? 126 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: Why do the sixth week hike? 127 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: Because they're one and two. 128 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 2: He's like a one or two on her closest friend. 129 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 5: He's trying to get back up to one. 130 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: Who else? 131 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: So she's gonna do it with exactly that person is 132 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: gonna I don't know. I don't know. 133 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: I will say it is weird, but it is really 134 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: hard to find people to go with you on long 135 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: hiking trip backpacking trips. That is true, and they've already 136 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: gone on one before. 137 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: Okay, question for you. Maybe maybe maybe she is one 138 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: of those people that can like like put the line 139 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 3: in the sand and say, hey, like that relationship is 140 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: the past. Now they're just friends. 141 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 7: But I doubt that that guy who's going on that 142 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 7: like multi week trip before the boyfriend comes in is 143 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 7: thinking the same. 144 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 8: Well. 145 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: I think the issue is not necessarily that she's going 146 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: on the strip with her ex. It's that she lied 147 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: about it, and there is something. 148 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: That is the biggest thing. Be She didn't lie about 149 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: the other axes. 150 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: No, And I think, why is she lying about. 151 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: It that way? 152 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: Right? 153 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: Why are you always lie? 154 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 3: Why are you always living? 155 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 5: If she does make that boundary after six weeks, yeah, 156 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 5: to deteriorate, it's gonna be tough for every day. 157 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: Are you gonna be the friend when you come back? 158 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 6: No? 159 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you know there's no service. 160 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: There's so much service on that train that needs to 161 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: be filled. On a hike, yeah, and you better believe 162 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: something's going to come up conversation. Yeah, I'm so happy 163 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: in my relationship. Nothing else. 164 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: You go on a six week camping trip with an 165 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: X if you're happy in your relationship. 166 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: Maybe, but from the get go, yeah. 167 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. I think she wasn't honest, so 168 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: I don't trust her. Update two days later, Oh, I 169 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: talked to her last night about the situation. She was 170 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: very apologetic, and admitted she made a huge mistake and 171 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: betrayed my trust, vowing to never do that again. She 172 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: said the reason she eventually told me was because she 173 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: couldn't hold the guilt in anymore from not telling. Interestingly, 174 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: when I used the word liede, she argued with it 175 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: at first, claiming she didn't lie, but then quickly changed 176 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: her mind when I pushed her on it. I asked 177 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: why she felt she needed to not tell me about 178 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: her with him. She said it was because she knew 179 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: I was going to get mad. 180 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: But that's just me. Did that just means you don't 181 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: have the courage to say the truth. Yeah, you can't hate. 182 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: I hate say that's like I didn't want to make 183 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: sure that's a Disney Channel plot. 184 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: I thought you were like I didn't want to tell 185 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: you that I killed your family because I didn't want 186 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: to make you mad. 187 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: I knew you always gonna She pointed out something that 188 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: she felt confused about whether I wanted to know about 189 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: their history or not. Liar, don't play oh way. I 190 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: wasn't sure if you wanted to know. 191 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 3: Also, Bell Conkling says, I went on a trip with 192 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: an ex and now we're married, so. 193 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: That does not help her case because earlier, in the 194 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: same conversation that I told her I wanted to know 195 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: which of her friends were exes months ago. I also 196 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: cut her off when we were talking about our year 197 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: apart and she started a sentence with I had a 198 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: lot of I got uncomfortable and interrupted her, saying that 199 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: I didn't need to know that. I regret how I 200 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: acted in that moment. I didn't yell or get mad, 201 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: but I was uncomfortable and shut down the conversation about 202 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: that topic. I should have let her finish her sentence. 203 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: At least I feel like in that scenario, you say, oh, 204 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: I had some situationships, not like I had a. 205 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 8: Lots to at least six weeks, and it probably made 206 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 8: her feel that I was overly sensitive about her past. 207 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: She said, because of this, she thought I didn't want 208 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: to know about the hiking friend from last year. To me, 209 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: it just feels like there's no inconsistency not wanting to 210 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: hear your partner say I slept with a lot of 211 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: people in the year we were apart, and wanting to 212 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: hear them say I slept with the guy who I'm 213 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: friends with and we're about to hike with for four weeks. 214 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, those are different things. It's like you don't need 215 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: to give all the gory details. 216 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: Of like, hey, just one of those relationships. 217 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: Because like all the other situationships don't have any effect 218 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: on the current relationship, but this one does because you're 219 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: bringing him in to the mix of relationships and friendships 220 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: that you have around your partner. 221 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 222 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: Also, if she actually thought I didn't want to know 223 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: their history, why did she feel so guilty not telling me? 224 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: That's the question. I would also like to point out 225 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: that a relationship in twenty twenty two ended when I 226 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: dumped her unexpectedly and I treated her very coldly the 227 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: night we broke up. 228 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 5: Wait, you dumped her unexpectedly. 229 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we already knew that they broke up. 230 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: Oh, they broke up once before. 231 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's when she had all the situationships. I 232 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: had a lot of pent up feelings about how she 233 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: was treating me that year. I can totally see how 234 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: her fear of being dumped suddenly again had kept her 235 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: from wanting to mention her relationship with this guy. It 236 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: would make sense that she was afraid of me abandoning 237 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: her again. At this point in the conversation. I was 238 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: understanding of what she did. She apologized in a way 239 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: that felt genuine, and I felt like we could work 240 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: through it. Then I started digging a little deeper to 241 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: see if I was still missing anything about the situation. 242 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: Oh no, see that, this is this is what happens. 243 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: You're getting, You're getting the trust dissolving and breaking away, 244 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: because that's what happened. Like, yeah, dissolving, morse blood an 245 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: alien that we watched, Wow. 246 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, ruined, that's fine. 247 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,479 Speaker 3: Everyone knows they have acid. 248 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: Of course. 249 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 3: No, it's okay, have you seen it yet? 250 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: It's really I'm not going to watch it. 251 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've never I think and cried. 252 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: I can't see horror movies unless there's like more than five, 253 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: Like there's got to be a squad. There is a 254 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: squad going to a horror movie. Oh you mean like 255 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: we squatted up. Yeah, that's good, that's good. 256 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: And I were the only people screaming. 257 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: Everyone else is like, but they were really screaming. 258 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, well was I forgot to mention it in my 259 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: last post. But a few weeks ago she told me 260 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: that her ex basically bailed on the hike for the summer. 261 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: It was very like he wouldn't be able to go 262 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: whoa switch up? Well, she told me at the time 263 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: it was because he couldn't afford it. Around the same time, 264 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: she also complained to me that he wasn't texting her back, 265 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: and she was annoyed because she felt like he didn't 266 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: want to be friends with her anymore now that they 267 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: didn't live in the same city, thinking they were only 268 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: of her friends. I thought that made sense. I would 269 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: feel sad if my friends didn't talk to me much 270 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: after moving. Yesterday, when I confronted her about all this, 271 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: I asked again why he couldn't go on the hike, 272 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: and she said again it was because he couldn't afford it. 273 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: I asked her if she believed him, and she said yes. 274 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 3: I think it's because he's trying to move on. 275 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like I can't do this. Yeah, I need 276 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: to get over you. Oh he's girlfriend. 277 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: But is she and lying again she's in a relationship. No, yeah, 278 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: that's like, why would you subject yourself to that? 279 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: Would you do that? Then I asked her if he 280 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: was okay with her inviting me on the trail. She 281 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: revealed that he actually didn't like the idea of me coming. 282 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: Dude wants to get back in. 283 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: He's six weeks alone, woo. And then he finds out 284 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: that her boyfriend's coming. 285 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 3: He's like, oh, but after six weeks, he's got time 286 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: to lay the foundation down. 287 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 5: Sam can go miles with that. 288 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: That happened, but he was mainly bailing because of money. 289 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: I asked to read their text message conversation about it, 290 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: and she agreed. In their text conversation, her ex at 291 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: first pointed out to her he couldn't afford the trip, 292 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: but then he also brought up that he didn't like 293 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: the idea of hiking with me. He said he felt 294 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: jealous even though he knows her and him were just 295 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: a temporary thing last year, and he wished I wasn't 296 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: join joining them on the trail because the PCT was 297 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: their thing. 298 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 3: Oh agenda, So the boyfriend is the temporary guy. 299 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: Wait no, wait wait wait wait wait wait Guys like 300 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: I know what we had was temporary, but I still 301 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: don't want your boyfriend to come on this trip because 302 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: there and it's like okay, ikey. 303 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: I thought she was telling him the current boyfriend is. 304 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: No, this is the this is the he's trying to 305 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: make moves trying to make moves. 306 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: There were a lot of words, but he was using 307 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: phrases like I feel a pit in my stomach and 308 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: things along those lines. He also said he felt like 309 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: a placeholder since the temporary relationship was sandwiched between me 310 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: and her first dating in twenty twenty two and then 311 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: getting back together. 312 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: This dude, this dude needs to grow up yeah and 313 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: say no, I'm not coming. Yeah, Like he needs to 314 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: be like you know what, y'all dor, Yeah, if you 315 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: want to go on the side, go on the tike. 316 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: He's not going to be with me. 317 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: Dude, you are the placeholder. 318 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like she's completely just using him as 319 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: like backup. 320 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. She told him that she was upset that he 321 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: couldn't disentangle their past relationship from their current friendship. 322 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: Come on, it's hard for people to do that. 323 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: That is something that is hard. She agreed with him 324 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: that the hiking the PCT was indeed third thing, and 325 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: said that she wished I wouldn't come because she felt 326 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: like I wasn't a great partner for the trail that's 327 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: messed up. 328 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: I am a trail of life. 329 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: I am faster than them, and she said she thought 330 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: I might get impatient, or at least that she could 331 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: hike alone with him for the first half and then 332 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: alone with me for the second half so that we 333 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't have to meet. 334 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: This is a challenger. 335 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: The situation was finally made clear from reading their mess 336 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: She wanted to keep this guy in her life, even 337 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: though he wasn't over her. He confessed all this to 338 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: her a month ago, and she kept it a secret 339 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: from me. She lied to me about the nature of 340 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: the relationship because she knew I wouldn't be okay with 341 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: them being friends, given that there was still something there. Also, 342 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: a few months ago before we were officially dating again 343 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: but just talking every day. When she initially asked him 344 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: if I could join their hike this summer, she didn't 345 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: use my name my friend. 346 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: Oh that was great delivery. 347 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: Oh this is before they were officially dating again, a 348 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: bill ouch. This was another lie bi omission, this time 349 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: to her ex to prevent him from knowing the truth 350 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 1: about the whole situation. Obviously, eventually she told him him 351 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: I was the friend, and then later he decided he 352 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: didn't want to During the cold conversation that night that 353 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: the point I was making was that her omitting their 354 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: history in order to protect herself hurt my feelings and 355 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: made me not trust her. And during the conversation last night, 356 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: she tried again to omit information to protect herself. When 357 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: she claimed that he only bailed because he didn't have 358 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: enough money, I wouldn't have even known that he still 359 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: had romantic feelings about her if I hadn't asked to 360 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: read her texts. Because she omitted that again, I dumped 361 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: her after that. I respect myself too much to stay 362 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: in a relationship with someone who was comfortable repeatedly lying 363 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: to my face in order to get her way. So 364 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: true snaps, especially about such an important topic so early 365 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: on in the relationship. To those who gave insightful, nuanced advice, 366 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: thank you. I learned a lot from this entire situation 367 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: and know how to handle these topics better and future relationships. 368 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: The one person who suggested that I asked to read 369 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: their texts, I can't thank you enough for helping me 370 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: dodge this bullet and that oh there is a little 371 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: bit from ope, oh relevant comments, Oh might be really relevant. 372 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I think like this is just too many 373 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 3: red flags in a row. 374 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: It's so cut and dry. 375 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: It's like you got to exit that relationship. 376 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, leave it now, have some self respect. 377 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: To gosh. 378 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: No. 379 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: One seven Lots of seven says, how did she react 380 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: when you broke up with her for the second time? 381 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: She went on the PCT you did the right thing, man. 382 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: She was never going to tell you the full truth 383 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: and figuring it all out was all the proof you 384 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: needed that you'll never be able to trust her. But 385 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 1: Opie says she tried to convince me not to for 386 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: a while, saying she would change and we could work through. 387 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 2: This and stuff. 388 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: She also lamented how we were perfect on paper because 389 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: of similar hobbies and didn't know what to do now 390 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: with this large painting she had just made for me 391 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: for a valid type's day. You didn't know what to 392 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: do with this large painting she had just made for 393 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: me for a valid The other guy. It's us on 394 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: the in the background. The other guy he is there, 395 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: but I can paint him out, no huge emotional display 396 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: because she probably predicted this was going to happen. Ever 397 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: since I found out Monday. She then went on to 398 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: kind of pivot the conversation into how really this situation 399 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: was both of our faults because I didn't cultivate environment 400 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: where she could feel comfortable stuff. 401 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: Guess lees. 402 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: Based on how swiftly I ended things between us last time. 403 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: I just don't care anymore and want this person out 404 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: of my life forever so I can move on. And 405 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: that is the end of this tale. 406 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 5: Out of this relationship, Like why does she want it 407 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 5: so bad. 408 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 3: So she can have someone to go on the PCT with? 409 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: Literally the other guy? 410 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 7: Is it? 411 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 5: But the other guy would? 412 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 3: She wants to want? 413 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: You need a backup? 414 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 3: Everyone always knows exactly you an emotional backup where media 415 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 3: okay is She's for the trails. 416 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: He's for to try. 417 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: He's for the trails, not just for the streets. 418 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 6: Woo. 419 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 3: And I think that's where that episode ends. 420 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: It is but if you love us, make sure. 421 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: To subscribe We love you and. 422 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: Riley. Can you assign that one to Nina? Mm hmm 423 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: thanks baby cakes? 424 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 2: All right, let's way my buy. 425 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 4: I think. 426 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: I can stay for us like a right? I have 427 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: forty minutes? 428 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty story. 429 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 5: By Sam. 430 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: Don't mean to go there. 431 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 5: It's not similar there. 432 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: You're you're too close to me? Done done that? 433 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: Know me? 434 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: Sam? 435 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 9: Could you take the Boxer the Infinity b are you 436 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 9: on notion. Uh wait, don't Riley, I want to hear it. 437 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: Oh, Josephine Madola Berquez, thank you for the twenty seven 438 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: second she wants to get in deed. Sophia Colonne says, 439 00:21:54,440 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: some people need attention. Mom called me. My mom has 440 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: called me twice. No, it's fine. My niece's eye drops, 441 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: my lips should happened, grabbed my chapstick in my room? 442 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: I mean, Rick, how old are Anthony and Riley? Wouldn't 443 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: you like to know enough? 444 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 9: Yeah? 445 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: Old enough? 446 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 4: Am I? 447 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 3: No? 448 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 4: I could be. 449 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: He's older than us and younger than Sam. 450 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: Oh I won't. 451 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: This is not my story to tell. 452 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: When a mommy and a daddy. Oh yeah, I was. 453 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad you saw that. Saw I caught. 454 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: I caught that, and I caught you catching that. 455 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: And I appreciate that because if no one had seen that, 456 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: I would have been said. 457 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: It's one of those things. Yeah, it was, tree falls 458 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: in the voice. Does it really? If you have no 459 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: idea what yet? So if you're caught chapstick, it was impressive. 460 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: I saw it, noticed TLDR. 461 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: Thanks, all right, let's get into this next story. 462 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: This is an episode from Deep Within the Archives. 463 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: Time for okop relash. 464 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: I refuse to give my sister any of my six 465 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 3: million dollars inheritance. 466 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 4: And here's why, man, you better have the best dang 467 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 4: reason ever in a history of planet Earth. 468 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: The reason is it's my money. 469 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 4: What else are you gonna do? 470 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 3: Get away from my gold? I'm a freaking dragon, and 471 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit on my horse. 472 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 4: I'm screwede you making do count in my coins. 473 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: If I don't have all my six million, how am 474 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 3: I gonna dive from a diving board into its I 475 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: female twenty four, have four siblings, Max male thirty one, 476 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 3: Lisa female twenty, Chris male twenty, Emily female eighteen. Emily 477 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: is disabled, and because of that, my parents dedicated themselves 478 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: one hundred percent to her, leaving the rest of us 479 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 3: defend for ourselves. When Max left for college, I became 480 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: the main caregiver for my siblings. In all household chores 481 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: were my responsibility. I want to make it clear that 482 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: Emily's disability does not stop her from functioning like any 483 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 3: other person, and she doesn't require any assistance or supervision 484 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: or twenty four to seven care. I love to actually 485 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 3: know what the discaplise I was just about to ask, 486 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 3: I wonder what it is ADHD. However, my parents have 487 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 3: always spoiled or rotten, and she is very rude, mean 488 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: and entitled. My parents raised her with a mentality that 489 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 3: her disability means she's allowed to do whatever and everyone 490 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: needs to bend backwards for her, which is probably not 491 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: a great parenting style. My grandparents passed away three years 492 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: ago and I inherited everything approximately six million dollars. 493 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 4: Wow, golly a lot. 494 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 6: That's just imagine you just got every billion dollars. I mean, 495 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 6: when everything is six million, you know everything could be 496 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 6: two paper clips. 497 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: They were very well off. 498 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 6: I know. 499 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: The reasons I received all of it are because of 500 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: the following one. When my parents were sick, Max contacted 501 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 3: them after almost ten years of silence because he wanted 502 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: to know how much he will receive. 503 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 4: Nice how se a plus move, bro. 504 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: Two they were very aware of how my mom treated 505 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: me and my siblings and she was disowned. Three they 506 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: are very religious, and Lisa came out as by at 507 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 3: fourteen and Chris came out as gay at seventeen. 508 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 6: So they're not the Basically, the grandparents are homophobic and 509 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 6: not giving the right Wow, Okay. 510 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: I went to North Carolina with my parents after I 511 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: moved for college, and when Lisa and Chris started college, 512 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 3: I offered to cover all of their living such educational 513 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: expenses as long as they do well in school. Okay, 514 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 3: they gladly accept it. Okay, nice, that is good. 515 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 4: That's a good start. 516 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 3: I also helped my bff Lola start her own business. 517 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: That's kind of nice. 518 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 4: I mean, that's didn't need to do that. That's cool move. 519 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 3: I haven't spoken to my parents in six years. I 520 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: haven't blocked them, they just never called or texted. This year, 521 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 3: Emily started college and she burned out all of her 522 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: college fund in less than four months because she's a 523 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 3: spoiled brat and bags are more important than rent. But 524 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: the louis though, the louis. My disability is not being poor. Oh, 525 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: I don't know how to conserve my cash. In addition, 526 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 3: she's doing horrible in school because she isn't even attending 527 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: her classes and she will most likely be expelled or 528 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 3: held back. 529 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 4: Oh dang. 530 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 3: My mom called me two weeks ago, not to ask, 531 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 3: but demand that I do the same for her as 532 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 3: I do for Lisa and Chris. I said no, because 533 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 3: growing up, I was literally a slave for her and 534 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 3: my parents. I'm helping Lisa and Chris because the only 535 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: ones that treated me as family. I ended up calling 536 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: by telling her that for eighteen years, Emily was their 537 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: only So now they have no right to demand anything 538 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: from the kids that they practically abandoned. Dang, Now I'm 539 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 3: getting from everyone except li Syncres because I'm causing unnecessary drama. 540 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: I'm causing a rift between Emily and her siblings. Emily 541 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 3: will be the only one without a degree. It's not 542 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 3: really my money, and my grandparents would want me to 543 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 3: help her, then why didn't they leave anything to her? 544 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 2: Fis? 545 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 3: But I mean, I don't know if I can really 546 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: justify the grandmas and grandparents because they're kind of homophobic. 547 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 3: That's true, so you know, family is family, and I 548 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 3: should help my little sister. It's not her fault that 549 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 3: my parents were bad parents to me, true, but she 550 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 3: doesn't do anything to change her behavior. She's disabled, and 551 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: it's not okay to discriminate. I feel like I'm doing 552 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: the right thing, but everyone is telling me I'm not 553 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: so am I the a hole. There is a little 554 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 3: update giving some clarification, but quick input what do you think? 555 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: And also all of you and also anyone listening and 556 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: also anyone watching, what do you think? What would you 557 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 3: do in this situation if you got six million dollars 558 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: and it was only to you, would you just run 559 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 3: to an island? Would help her family? What would you do? 560 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 561 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 6: I think Opie is pretty much that that not the 562 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 6: a hole and and is seems to be the angel again. 563 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 4: Would love to know what the disability was and also, 564 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 4: uh was it? 565 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 1: Uh? 566 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 6: Lisa and Chris those were the two people that were 567 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 6: not straight that didn't receive so. 568 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 3: Max Max is the one that uh called it was 569 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 3: like how much money I get? And it was to 570 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 3: sound Lisa and Chris were the like like bisexual and guy. 571 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 6: Right, So yeah, yeah, I'm almost a little bit like, 572 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 6: I'll just say this one thing before moving on, Like 573 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 6: you just you got six million. 574 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 4: And you only paid for school. I'm like, I know, 575 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 4: maybe a little more. Maybe I don't, I don't know. 576 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: I would know. I would like split a little bit more, a. 577 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: Little bit more. 578 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 4: Maybe, I mean, maybe that's to come. That's what I'm thinking. 579 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: Maybe she just wants to be a constant benefactor in 580 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: their life. For like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, but 581 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 3: that's what I'm thinking of right now. Okay, So for 582 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: the Q and A, which is actually kind of interesting, 583 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: we get some updates. Right What disability does she have? 584 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: OPI doesn't know. My parents never told me, and when 585 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: anyone asked, they would get very defensive. So, like, is 586 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: it what is the disability if it doesn't require like, 587 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: I feel like it's good for family to know. Is 588 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: it a physical disability that you can see? 589 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 6: I totally, I totally understand, not like wanting to explain 590 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 6: yourself to everyone, But I don't know. 591 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 4: I'm curious why. 592 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. Okay, So I guess OPI doesn't know 593 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: at all about the disability. I just want to know 594 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: what it does. Does it do anything interesting? Can Emily 595 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: get government assistance? No, because she doesn't have any documentation 596 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: that a test she is disabled. My parents were fighting 597 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 3: with doctors because they all refuse to sign any document 598 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: that said she had disabled. Okay, it sounds like Emily 599 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 3: eight disabled. How much is Emily actually spending? 600 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 4: Well? 601 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: She renewed her closet, purchased a very expensive car, and 602 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 3: partied until she dropped. For reference, my parents have high 603 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 3: paying jobs and Emily's college fund was five hundred and 604 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 3: eighty seven thousand dollars and she booted that in four months. 605 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah what, Yeah, it's crazy. Oh my wow? Did me 606 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: and my siblings have a college fund? 607 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 8: No? 608 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 3: FYI writing these, I'm starting to question if my sister's 609 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: actually disabled or if it was just what my parents 610 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: wanted to believe. My family thinks she was disabled because 611 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: she did not learn how to walk until she was five, 612 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: and she didn't talk until she was seven. And then 613 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: this is the juiciest update of all. Oh there's a 614 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: juicy update. Okay, okay, my mom called a few minutes 615 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 3: ago to tell me Emily is pregnant, so I need 616 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 3: to help her. 617 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 4: Oh my god, Oh my god. 618 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: I blocked them all. It's a fake pregnancy lmao. 619 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 4: Oh oh wow coercion. 620 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 3: I'm so confused because it's started like the family has 621 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: a family just been lying about Emily's disability, and it's like. 622 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 6: Why unless they're like, I mean, look, we have people 623 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 6: on all the time that are like crazy and do 624 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 6: things for unexplicable reasons. 625 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: But still none of the doctors wanted to say that 626 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 3: she had a disability. 627 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 4: That's crazy to me. 628 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: That's weird. That's weird. We'll break this down a little 629 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: bit more, but please let me know what you think. 630 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 3: Do you think that Opie's sister Emily actually has a disability? 631 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: Do you think OPI has to give Emily any money? 632 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: Please let us know in the comments below. John, who's 633 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 3: the a hole? Who are the angels? What do you think? 634 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: What would you do? 635 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 6: Op pretty much the angel seems seems like, seems like 636 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 6: Opie's kind of kind of given back where it should be. 637 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 6: Grandparents a holes because like cutting out the family family 638 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 6: because of homophobia and like other. 639 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 4: Things like I ain't rocking with that. The parents a 640 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: holes for sure, for not like I totally. 641 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 6: Get like you kind of have to if you do 642 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 6: have a truly disabled family member, you do have to 643 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 6: spend probably more time and attention there. But also, you know, 644 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 6: any parent that loves all their children is gonna give 645 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 6: some sort of you know, love and attention elsewhere. 646 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 4: And it doesn't seem like they did. 647 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 6: And then yeah, at the risk of being crowned the 648 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 6: rage and ablest if doctors are refusing to say. 649 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 3: That you're disabled, I don't know, I really don't know 650 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: where that leaves you. I feel like you might not 651 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: be disabled. Who are we to say? The real test 652 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 3: is what that comment say? Yes, so please put in 653 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 3: the comment story one and excited to read through it? 654 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I'm excited to read through another story for you. 655 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: Okay, let's do it. 656 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 4: We have another inheritance story, but this one evolves a 657 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 4: Nigerian Prince sam Oh. 658 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 3: Yeah,