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Speaker 1: Break out the brooms. The Saint Louis Cardinals sweep the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Twins nine to two. How's that for an opening series.

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Speaker 1: I'm Katie Wu, He's Bernne Nicholas. Welcome back to Cardinal Territory.

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Speaker 1: As we record this, it's around seven to fifteenth Central time,

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Speaker 1: Sunday night. There are four teams in Major League Baseball

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Speaker 1: who are undefeated. They are at the Los Angeles Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: the New York Yankees, the San Diego Padres, and just

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Speaker 1: like we all predicted, the Saint Louis Cardinals. Bernie, what

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Speaker 1: a series for these Redbirds.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's never too early to win, especially if

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Speaker 2: you haven't won you know, the past two years, not really,

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Speaker 2: you know, twenty second out of thirty teams in winning

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Speaker 2: percentage in twenty three, twenty four, and so we were

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Speaker 2: all kind of wondering, like, well, you know, the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: said the right things about themselves. You know, we're all together,

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Speaker 2: there's energy, there's enthusiasm, the team's close, the vibes awesome,

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Speaker 2: and that's always good to hear. But I also know that,

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Speaker 2: you know, there were like twenty nine other teams saying

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Speaker 2: the same thing, so right, they really came out and

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Speaker 2: proved the point. They really hate to use the cliche.

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Speaker 2: They really made a statement that a lot of that

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Speaker 2: talk in spring training wasn't just talk. It looked like

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Speaker 2: a really sharp team. It looked like a team that

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Speaker 2: was on point in every area. And we'll get into

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Speaker 2: all that. I don't want to steal all the thunder here,

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Speaker 2: but they I was just kind of like, wow, I

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Speaker 2: mean to it's too soon for me to say this

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Speaker 2: team is. That was a transformation. But they weren't kidding

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Speaker 2: when they talked about the way they felt about themselves

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Speaker 2: going into twenty twenty five. They weren't kidding, at least

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Speaker 2: for the first three games.

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Speaker 1: The intensity I think with this team was evident from

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Speaker 1: the first pitch on Thursday. Sonny Gray comes in really

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Speaker 1: the first half of the Indian six pitches, mows down

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Speaker 1: the Twins. He knows doesn't have as vlo doesn't matter,

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Speaker 1: finds a way to have like an easy, breezy first inning,

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Speaker 1: and Lars new barsats the tone immediately with that single

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Speaker 1: and you know it sounds a little dramatic, but I

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Speaker 1: Thursday's home opener, which I'm an Opening day girl, we

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Speaker 1: know this.

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Speaker 3: I was feeling a little down.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: It was the weather.

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Speaker 1: There was no arch in the grass, which look, I

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Speaker 1: not the groundskeepers, like they worked so tirely to make

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Speaker 1: that happen, but the weather just made it impossible. I

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Speaker 1: missed the start to the Clydesdales. That was my own fault.

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Speaker 1: It was raining, so I thought I had time to

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Speaker 1: all of my favorite things about Opening Day, it's kind

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you the last time I had so

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Speaker 1: much fun watching a Saint Louis Cardinals game. I thought

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Speaker 1: that Thursday home opener embodied every single thing about a

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Speaker 1: good quality Cardinal baseball win. From starting pitcher if way

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Speaker 1: to get it done, even if he didn't have his

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Speaker 1: the charts, you know, Victor Scott making it play, Brendan

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Speaker 1: get to this. My favorite moment was that Nolan Arnado

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Speaker 1: think the Cardinals do a fantastic job. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: it's the best opening day in baseball. But when the

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Speaker 1: and the booze in that stadium for the owners were

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Speaker 1: But you know, it was a forty seven thousand people

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. If I could like throw

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Speaker 2: something in about the booing of Bill Dewett Junior, and

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Speaker 2: you know, especially and I think people get mad at

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Speaker 2: wit let this thing slide. And that's that's on him.

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Speaker 2: The thing that was his baby player development, he just

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Speaker 2: call me a softy but it's opening and it's supposed

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Speaker 2: to be a day to celebration, celebrate Cardinals baseball the

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Speaker 2: past with all the Red Jackets, you know, the World

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Speaker 2: Series trophies, the Pennants are everywhere. You know, this has

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Speaker 2: been such a great franchise under Bill to win. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's eighty three years old. And again I realize that

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Speaker 2: it's his fault that they let the thing, their model,

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Speaker 2: all agree the last few years have been very disappointing,

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Speaker 2: any team in the National League. They you know, four Pennants,

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Speaker 2: I'm not wired that way. I really appreciate the overall

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Speaker 2: then he took you know, he walked calmly over to

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Speaker 2: that's all. Yeah, fans have the right. Yeah, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: It surprised me a little bit just because of what

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Speaker 1: That's your right. And I'm never going to say I'm

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Speaker 1: And we saw three great Cardinal baseball games over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: it's only three games. We saw one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about some Cardinals baseball, if you will.

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Speaker 3: Over the last three.

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Speaker 1: Games, nineteen runs, thirty hits, five homers, Bertie, who are

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Speaker 2: You know? And then the other thing, they're big curse.

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Speaker 2: Last year, you know, two twenty nine batting average of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they took those at bats on their terms, and

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Speaker 2: And that's generally true of all hitters. But that team,

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Speaker 2: It will be much better than it has been. And

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Speaker 3: And it's a different sense of confidence you get.

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Speaker 1: But all things considered, you know, those Twins starters are

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Speaker 2: You know, last year, so many times it's like, well,

433
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Speaker 2: who's going to hit? Can anybody hit? And it's just like,

434
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Speaker 2: you know, no disrespect to Paul Goldsmith Hall of Famer,

435
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Speaker 2: but he was in the two hole way too long,

436
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Speaker 2: and you know he you know, bless him, but he

437
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 2: was just having, by his standards, a really miserable year

438
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 2: and nothing changed Goldie in the two hole, and there

439
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 2: weren't enough options when you had you know, Gorman just

440
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Speaker 2: having his year and Walker having his year and some

441
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Speaker 2: other things going on. I mean, newt Bar being hurt.

442
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 2: It's like they weren't they weren't enough options. So having

443
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 2: tough choices where you're you're probably you're gonna be putting

444
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 2: a good hitter or two on the bench every day,

445
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 2: that's a positive thing, you know, it really is. And

446
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 2: so we have to kind of remember that. I think

447
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 2: Ali's actually done a really good job putting this together.

448
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 2: I think he's got more information now from the front

449
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 2: office in terms of some some finer point info data

450
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 2: on opposing pictures and the strengths or weaknesses of his

451
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 2: based on who that opposing picture is. So they got

452
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 2: some good things going on behind the scenes as well.

453
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Speaker 2: But I just like the complete nature of the entire

454
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Speaker 2: three games. I mean, the run prevention was terrific. The

455
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 2: three starters did a really nice job. Betty was fantastic,

456
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 2: Polonte really fought through some things. He also got some

457
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,479
Speaker 2: swing and miss today too, and then the bullpen was

458
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: just fantastic. So you know, they end up out scoring

459
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Speaker 2: the Twins, you know, nineteen to six, and that's an

460
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: indication of how thorough their domination was in this series. Anyway,

461
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 2: the defense was fantastic. I like the way Ali you

462
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 2: could tell, like we could tell them in the first game,

463
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Speaker 2: the way he's going to play it if he has

464
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Speaker 2: a late inning lead, where he you know, he looks

465
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Speaker 2: for the right moment, not just not just to put

466
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Speaker 2: Siani in there, but also to get Pages in there

467
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: and just move some pieces around where he has his

468
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 2: best defensive alignment out there for the last couple of innings. Now,

469
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Speaker 2: he may not be able to do that every single time,

470
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Speaker 2: but olli Oli was really sharp. I mean, he he

471
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Speaker 2: had a plan and he had plans for any type

472
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Speaker 2: of scenario, and it looked good. He had a really

473
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Speaker 2: good series. Now you know, again, got one hundred and

474
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Speaker 2: fifty nine to go, so we'll see. But uh, I

475
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: thought it was really really important for the Cardinals to

476
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Speaker 2: get off to a good start for many many many reasons.

477
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Speaker 2: Business at the box office, right, keep getting giving their

478
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Speaker 2: fans something wow, a little bit of a wow factor.

479
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 2: But also just the Cardinals last season got off to

480
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 2: a terrible start at home. They lost, right, remember that

481
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Speaker 2: White Sox series.

482
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, do you remember the White Sox series.

483
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Speaker 2: So they lost four out of their last excuse me,

484
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Speaker 2: four out of their first six series at home, and

485
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 2: their record in those series was six and eleven, and

486
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: that put them in a hole. And it was they

487
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Speaker 2: were trying, they were trying to climb their way out

488
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Speaker 2: of that for a long time, and they could get

489
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Speaker 2: to five hundred, and then they stayed at five hundred,

490
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Speaker 2: you know. And that's why, you know, the people that

491
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Speaker 2: are already saying, well, totally, you know, let's early, let's

492
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Speaker 2: calm down time. Well, first of all, you know, we're

493
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Speaker 2: talking about I'm talking about fans. I'm sticking up for them.

494
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Speaker 2: They shouldn't. Why should they have to calm down. They

495
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Speaker 2: saw great baseball for three games, and they.

496
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Speaker 3: Saw the car Yeah a long time here.

497
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so you saw a team you wanted,

498
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Speaker 2: a team that would look different, played different, think different,

499
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Speaker 2: perform different. You saw it at least for three games,

500
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Speaker 2: so it got your attention. So I don't like all

501
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Speaker 2: these you know people out there. It's only one series,

502
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 2: yeah you know, so so what then what would have

503
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Speaker 2: happened if they would have lost three or lost two

504
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Speaker 2: out of three.

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Speaker 1: That would be a disaster exactly.

506
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Speaker 2: So when when you had such a terrible start at

507
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Speaker 2: home last season and that puts you in a deficit,

508
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: pa Is, you never really could overcome. It's really important

509
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: for this team. And by the way, the Angel series

510
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: is another test, but it's really important for this team

511
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: to get off to play winning baseball, especially at home.

512
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Speaker 2: And if they come out against the Angels and they

513
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Speaker 2: lose two out of three, they lose a series. Then

514
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Speaker 2: all of our happy talk, which is well founded based

515
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Speaker 2: on the three games we just saw, all that happy talk,

516
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Speaker 2: it'll be the volume on that'll be turned down a lot.

517
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Speaker 2: So they got to go out and take care of business.

518
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Speaker 2: That's the thing you get no one's going to take

519
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: them totally seriously, including nationally. And I understand unless they

520
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: do this not necessarily a sweet but unless they do

521
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Speaker 2: this over and over and over and over against like

522
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Speaker 2: Tony LaRussa, I could quote his most repetitive statements. They're

523
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Speaker 2: like embedded in my brain. You know, he talked about

524
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Speaker 2: boy telling your team side. He says, like we just

525
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Speaker 2: you know, all we got to do is win series.

526
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Speaker 2: So it's the only thing matters. Win series. You keep

527
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 2: winning series, you're gonna have a really good year. Just

528
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Speaker 2: win series. Don't worry about well, well we failed it.

529
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Speaker 2: We didn't get a sweep there. We could have just

530
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Speaker 2: win this series. Win a series, stack them up, stack

531
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Speaker 2: them up. And it's true, it's really true. Win series.

532
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Speaker 2: And so they got their season off to a good

533
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Speaker 2: start by doing that. Now they got to do it

534
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Speaker 2: again against a team. It's not very good correct.

535
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Speaker 1: Winning teams win series. That's something that we all know.

536
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: We've heard so so many times. And Sandles Cardinals did

537
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Speaker 1: what they were supposed to do this weekend, took care

538
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Speaker 1: of business against the Twins. I agree with you, the

539
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: absolutely should take the series against the Angels. Some tough

540
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Speaker 1: pitching I don't want to diminish that Tyler Anderson's a

541
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Speaker 1: good arm cacuchie. Obviously it's a big signing for them,

542
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Speaker 1: and we all know about Kyle Hendricks, so we'll see. Yeah,

543
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Speaker 1: but I agree, I.

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Speaker 2: Do no, I can't help. I got to get I

545
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Speaker 2: got to get a little what's the word, I don't know,

546
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: maybe being a jerk. Okay, that's fine. So everything's rolling

547
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: really nice, and then it's like, oh, here he comes

548
00:25:54,760 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 2: and smiles michaelness. So michaelas yeah, So I hope uh,

549
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: And I'm being sincere because you know, everybody so down

550
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: on him. It would be kind of funny if he

551
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: comes out and pitches this great game. But if they

552
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 2: win three in a row and he comes out and

553
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: it's kind of one of those wah wah you know

554
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: starts by him, that'll definitely kill the buzz here, right,

555
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 2: that will.

556
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Speaker 3: Create a different kind of buzz for me. And here's

557
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Speaker 3: here's I like Miles.

558
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Speaker 1: He's been nothing but kind to me and just a

559
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: total pro. And the now five years that we've worked together,

560
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Speaker 1: I found it so funny that in Spring Miles michaelis

561
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: and Steven Matt's Michael mcgreeby too, But I'm the starters

562
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Speaker 1: that we knew we're going to make. The team looks

563
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: by far the best, and fans are out and Matt's

564
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: by the way, was fantastic today. Four innians, one hit

565
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: ball picked up his first career save. First of all,

566
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Speaker 1: I didn't really register that he was able to not

567
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Speaker 1: just save for me until ninth inning, where I was like,

568
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: wait a second. I was doing the math and I

569
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: was like, wait, are you gonna pick up the savior?

570
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: So we'll see. We'll see about Miles. I understand fan frustration.

571
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Speaker 1: I think that's more after you have the two disappointing

572
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: seasons that he has. But hey, everyone else has stepped up.

573
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: We're about positive vibes this week on Cardinal Territory, So

574
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: we'll see. But yeah, Bernie, I think, just from a

575
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: personal standpoint, I really enjoyed being at the ballpark this weekend.

576
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: Spring training was long, but kind of going through it,

577
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: and I was joking to my family and friends after

578
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 1: Thursday's game, I was like, I enjoyed Opening Days so much.

579
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: I think that baseball game just cured my depression. And

580
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: while it was a slight joke, I really just feel

581
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: like a different energy covering this team right now, because

582
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, I've feed off the fans. I've worked for

583
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: the fans essentially, and you know this well as your

584
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: many many years as a sports writer. It's so much

585
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: more fun and well, I don't have a rooting interest

586
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: in the team, that's not my job, nor can it be.

587
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: Delivering fun stories to the fans is so much more

588
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: rewarding and fun for me because I feel like we're

589
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: just building more camaraderie and we're experiencing this together. And

590
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: I had so much fun just this whole series, like, Hey,

591
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: who who are these guys? What's going on?

592
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: Is this the same most.

593
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: Cardinals team that we know and sometimes love before fans?

594
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: So that was exciting for me.

595
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 2: I hear you.

596
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 3: It was just really fun to be back at the ball.

597
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 2: Bar, you know. And I've been doing this for so long.

598
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm almost like when I mentioned how long I've been

599
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: doing this, I'm kind of like, oh man, did I Hey,

600
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: did we have we looked at those cemetery pots? No,

601
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: I'm only kidding. I'm interjecting some like like twisted self

602
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: deprecation there. So anyway, but I know I've seen you've

603
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: been around here doing this a long time. And that's

604
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: why I truly loved what you just said. And I

605
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: give you one hundred percent approval on that. Because our

606
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: jobs are misunderstood, and that's okay. But my great memories

607
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: and the things that I have cherished over the last

608
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: forty some years doing this, it's all about successful teams

609
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: and great players and great performances, and whether it be

610
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: the Old Dome with the greatest show on turf rams

611
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: when the Blues won the Stanley Cup in twenty nineteen,

612
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: all the great Cardinals teams, all the Hall of famers,

613
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: and all the history that's on display all the time.

614
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: It made you feel great to walk into the stadium.

615
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: It made you feel great to sit in the press box.

616
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: It made you feel great to be able to tell

617
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: the stories, to kind of capture the moments. I mean,

618
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: the night of Game six of the twenty eleven World Series,

619
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: thank goodness for you know, online journalism. At that time.

620
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: I was in the press box because I knew that

621
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Speaker 2: we couldn't I couldn't sum this up like in terms

622
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: for like a print edition. It just was no time

623
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Speaker 2: I sat in that press box. I was so keyed

624
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: up after that game, and I just kept writing and

625
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: writing and writing because I'm like, no, the fans who

626
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: they deserve the best I can give them, you know,

627
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: because I'm excited. I want them to share my excitement.

628
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: We all share in it together. And I left the

629
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: press box that night at like three forty five in

630
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: the morning because I was just determined to write a

631
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Speaker 2: piece that would just kind a rise to the moment

632
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: of what we just observed. Right, So I'm glad, see

633
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: you prompted me to just give a testimonial here, But no,

634
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: I'm totally in synch with you on that stuff. I mean,

635
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: I never got into this business to cover failure. I

636
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: got this business to cover all the great things I've

637
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: been blessed to cover, you know, Joe Montana, Michael Jordan, Olympics,

638
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I can't even tell you how

639
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: many great things I've witnessed. And that's why I, as

640
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: a little kid, that's why I wanted to do this

641
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: for a living, you know, not to be miserable. Not

642
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: to be miserable.

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Speaker 1: Right So anyhow, I mean, hey, I didn't take this.

644
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: See was Cardinal's job for mediocre baseball? That was not

645
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Speaker 1: what was one of the decision makers. In my mind,

646
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Speaker 1: it was wow, this is such a historic franchise with

647
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: a past fan base and a high expectation for winning.

648
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: I mean I would have gone anywhere. Don't get me wrong.

649
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: I was twenty four frush out of college and didn't

650
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: have a job. But to have the same as Cardinals

651
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: and to get that assignment as my first major league beat,

652
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean it goes to everything you just said. You

653
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: do it because of the success stories. I love sharing

654
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: it with fans. I think it makes it's closer. My

655
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: favorite night at work was Albert Poohle siting hitting seven hundred,

656
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: and I was I actually remember my first gut feeling was,

657
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: oh shit, I have to make sure the story is good.

658
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: I have to make sure this story is good. So

659
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: he's like circling the bases and I'm watching Albert take

660
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: it all in and I'm trying to capture the scene

661
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: for the story. But there's like this pit in my stomach, like,

662
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: you cannot mess this up. This is the most important

663
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: story for the Cardinals in years. You better make sure

664
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: that story delivers. And I actually did not fall asleep.

665
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: I found the story obviously quickly, but I didn't fall

666
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: asleep that night until five am, because I was just

667
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: so overwhelmed by the opportunity of being there in that

668
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: moment and having the privilege to share that with fans

669
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: and share that connection and be a part of baseball

670
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: history in my own small way. So I don't know,

671
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: I think I got a little sentimental this this weekend,

672
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: just as because I was back and sharing baseball with

673
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: all you siccos out there, and it's just really fun

674
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: to five years in have a community established here Saint

675
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: Louis and you guys are you guys are different?

676
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: Hey, pool Albert pool Holes caused me many a sleepless nights,

677
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: but in a good way that you just referred to

678
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: the Brad Lidge home run. Also that three home run

679
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: World Series game, you know where he just uh, I

680
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,719
Speaker 2: know we did. We didn't. We're not doing like go

681
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: down memory lane on this. But I remember pool Holes

682
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: got into like media was all mad at him because

683
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: he didn't show up to talk after Game two. The

684
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: Cardinals lost in the off day and so this was

685
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: big national people ripping them and everything. It's just unprofessionally,

686
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: need to show up. And I told Joe Buck, I said,

687
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: you know, you've been watching him, I said, you just

688
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: and he came out and he was kind of testy

689
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: before in the off day, and I remember talking to

690
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: Joe Buck around the cage and I said, you know,

691
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: you know it, and I know it. This guy is

692
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: going to go off because when he some people, when

693
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: they're mad, it works against him. Pootholes always channeled that

694
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: to just where you all better just stand down. You

695
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: have no idea, and that's what he did on that

696
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: Saturday night game that was so anyway. Yeah, but that's

697
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: but again, see you and I are in this totally

698
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: the same wavelength. I mean, that's why even at my age,

699
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: as long as I've been doing this, those moments still

700
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: really matter to me. They're so great and you just

701
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: want more and more and more in them. People some

702
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: people seem to think, seem to think that when it's

703
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: negative it's better. You know, the media likes the negative stuff. Hey,

704
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: I know all those years of the Post Dispatch, whether

705
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: in print sales and also online traffic through the roof

706
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: when the team was good through the roof, right, and

707
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure you're fine and out the same

708
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 2: thing you found because you've had both experiences good and

709
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: bad with the Cardinals. So anyway, yet, man, you gosh,

710
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: I love your attitude. Yeah, I do. It reminds me,

711
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: it reminds you, It reminds me of somebody. Oh go ahead,

712
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I cut you off. I cut you off.

713
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: No, we're all good, Bernie. This is I say this

714
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: a lot, but I feel like we we resonate with

715
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: each other and how fun. This is another thing I

716
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: just like about sports media, and I promise we're gonna

717
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: get back to the Cardinals.

718
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: Just the connections that you make online.

719
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: It's it's been I don't have I don't think I

720
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: have a platform. I know I don't have a platform

721
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: or a career without the online social media, whether it's Twitter, YouTube,

722
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: the athletics.

723
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 3: So I'm very grateful.

724
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: And another thing I was very grateful for was this

725
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: moment because baseball is about cool moments. Here, So let's

726
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: walk through what my favorite moment of the Cardinals series was.

727
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: And there were a lot. Give me one second. Sure,

728
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: there we go almost there. Oh yeah, I did it

729
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: right home on it.

730
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: Let's talk about our star of the series, presented by

731
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: Fandel's Sports Network or Player to watch if you will.

732
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: So I had a hard time choosing one player could

733
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: have gone Lars new Bar, could have gone Victor Scott

734
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: the second. But this moment right here, Nolan Arnado, bottom

735
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: of the eighth Cardinals up four to three home opener,

736
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: turns on ninety eight high and inside for a patented

737
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: Nolan Arnaudo pull side homer. And it was such a

738
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 1: fun moment because the fans had responded to him all day.

739
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: The second he came out on bus Stadium on that truck,

740
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: you knew because they you heard it, and they cheers,

741
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: followed him around the warning track. He was announced up

742
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: at home plate, huge crowd before his first abat same thing,

743
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: huge crowd reception, and then he does this and delivers

744
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: that key insurance run and to get that curtain call

745
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: from the fans, given all that Nolan has been through

746
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: over the last four months, and he has handled it,

747
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: both him and the team like true professionals, and that's

748
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: really hard to do in this day and age.

749
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: Either side could have gone sideways. For him to have

750
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: that moment come.

751
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: Cluesch in a big spot and then be rewarded with

752
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: a curtain call, and he felt like he was rewarding

753
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: the fans. And this is one of the cooler moments

754
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: I've seen at bus Jadum and I loved this for Nolan, I.

755
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: Thought it was awesome. I thought it was touching. I

756
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: also love to see that guy happy and smiling and

757
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: sort of his energy, you know when he's happy, Like

758
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 2: you can just see all the younger guys are really

759
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: happy and they're kind of feeding off each other. It's

760
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: such a cliche. Couldn't think anything better to say there,

761
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: but just to see Aronato after that with you know,

762
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: the chest thump, you know, hitting his heart, sending it

763
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: to the fans, that show of emotion was just really

764
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: really strong stuff. And you know, you're you look at

765
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: him and you're like, he's been so tormented here the

766
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: last couple of years. He puts himself into a state

767
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: of torment because he's so intense. He hates failure, his

768
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: own failure, he hates the team failure, and there is

769
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: a there is a spirit there that just wants to

770
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: get out, not to get out of Saint Louis. Obviously

771
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: he had a chance and he said.

772
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: No, he's still here.

773
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: Right, but there's a spirit in him that just wants

774
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 2: to be released, you know, it wants to be released.

775
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: And this happy man, this positive energy guy. That whole series,

776
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: he looked like that guy, and you just hope that

777
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: that stays. For his sake, the team's sake, the fans sake.

778
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 2: You hope that that stays. That spirit. He just wants

779
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: that positive energy pouring out of him. You hope that

780
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: that stays. It can't happen every day, but like just

781
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: so to speak, day week after week after week after week,

782
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: it's it'll be a much better team to be a

783
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: much happy your team. And can I ask you a

784
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 2: question about that? I know you probably want to wrap

785
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 2: it up, but I always like to ask you questions,

786
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: which is, you know, the Newt Bar and iron Otto

787
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: relationship is obviously a really strong one because they're boys

788
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 2: and so cal it during the offseason working out together

789
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: and stuff. But how much do you think the young

790
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: players now that Goldie's going And by the way, I'm

791
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: not blaming Goldie for anything, but I'm just saying the

792
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: dynamics have changed. Do you sense that he is the

793
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: young players and their vibe and their energy and the

794
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: fun they're having. Do you do you think that that

795
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: has rubbed off him in any way?

796
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: I think he's learning to embrace it. I think he's

797
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: he came into twenty twenty five understanding, like, hey, this

798
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: was a very wild offseason. Thought I wasn't going to

799
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: be here. I still am. The optics are much different,

800
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: the expectations are much different from when I first was

801
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: traded here, from when I decided to opt back in.

802
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: And there's no use pouting about it.

803
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let these kids teach me how to

804
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: relax a little bit.

805
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 3: And like he said, Nolan not it doesn't relax.

806
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: He's not one of the best in the game, the

807
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: third basement of this generation, because he relaxes. All right,

808
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: this dude is taking practice hacks at like two am

809
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: in his hotel room.

810
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 3: His teammates will tell me.

811
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: And I think what he's done is he's learned, like, hey,

812
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: you know what, I can't control what this team is doing,

813
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: but I can control how I'm reacting to things, and

814
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: I can control playing loose, and I can control whether

815
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: or not I'm a better baseball player. And I thought

816
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: Thursday's moment was was so healing for him. And I'm

817
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: not sure that's a word he would ever use, but

818
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: maybe this is like the emotional woman in me, because

819
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: he I've never seen him. He's not like a flashy guy.

820
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: There's no ego there. Really, He's always very respectful in interviews.

821
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: But for him to get that curtain call and put

822
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: the hand to the ear sally like I want to

823
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: hear more of it, like let me hear you. That

824
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: was so cool, Like that's salververtion went hard for me.

825
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: I think he needed that from the fans, and I

826
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: think that's helped him realize, Hey, guess what, they still

827
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: want me here. Things did not go the way that

828
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: I've thought it was going to go where the team

829
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 1: thought it was going to go, But this city still

830
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: wants me here, and this city still knows I have

831
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: a lot left to prove.

832
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 3: And I think he needed that.

833
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: So you combine the fan reception with guys like you

834
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: know new Bar Obviously, he's very tight with Pedro Pajes,

835
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: mix Siani, just that group keeping him young. I know

836
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: him and Mason have a nice relationship on that side

837
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: of the infields. I think that's really going to help him.

838
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: And I'm excited to see what Nolan Arnando does this year.

839
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: I think it could be a big year.

840
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: For him and I would and I'll be very quick

841
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: with this, you know, because you nailed the right choice there.

842
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: But I would I would go with Lars Newbar is

843
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: my MVP, because he's simply Ali Marmeld did the right

844
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: thing by putting him at the top of the lineup

845
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: and the very first at BET. He set the tone

846
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: for that whole series, and he kept setting the tone

847
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 2: over and over and over again, including defensively as well.

848
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: And I know we're not going three dep here, but

849
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 2: I would give the bronze medal to Victor Scott.

850
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, man, what a fun series. Yeah, what

851
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 3: a fun series for Victor.

852
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: Talk about a game chater with speed and you know,

853
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: the situational hitting, and then all of a sudden, the

854
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: three run jack.

855
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: Yet catch in game one, save the game, you know, And.

856
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: You know what, Bernie, that's not a I was talking

857
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: to Ollie Marmel about this with other reporters. I'm not

858
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 1: sure if that's a catch that Victor Scott makes last year.

859
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: I mean from you could tell the work that he's

860
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: been putting in with John Jay. If you look back

861
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: and you look at the metrics and you watched it

862
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: in real time, I knew he was going to get

863
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: there because of his jump, the first step, jump quickness,

864
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: the route efficiency, and good players make that catch regardless,

865
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: great players make that catch on their feet.

866
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: He got there on his feet.

867
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: He didn't lay out, he didn't have to because he

868
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: had such a good read on it. He had good

869
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: initial reactions, great speed. Obviously, he's worked his butt off

870
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 1: to be able to make those plays and saved a run,

871
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: potentially saved the game, and it was really great to

872
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: see for Victor. So I think our podium is pretty stacked,

873
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: no no doubt.

874
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: And they were the whole team collectively just put on

875
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: a great show in those three games. They never trailed.

876
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: I mean, they were tied for a few winnings. I

877
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: think it was like four innings maybe they were tied.

878
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: The whole series never trailed, I mean, and even when

879
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: they were tied, it's like there was no panic, no

880
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 2: freak out. They just kept, you know, maintaining that focus

881
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: that we both addressed, and it was just good stuff.

882
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: It was just really really good stuff, and it leaves

883
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: you wanting more, and that's a positive thing, you know.

884
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: Luckily for us, we have one hundred and fifty nine

885
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: more to go, and including tomorrow for a three game set.

886
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 1: Against the Los Angeles Angels. Bernie any closing thoughts before

887
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: we call it a night.

888
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm good. I mean I think we covered

889
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: it all. I just think I would just listen. Man,

890
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: it's what I think. Doesn't matter. But for I can

891
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: relate to people that were sort of predicting, you know,

892
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: gloom and doom for the Cardinals. Okay, there was every

893
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: reason in the world to think it was not going

894
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: to be much of a season. And by the way,

895
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: maybe it'll turn out that it won't be. But I'm

896
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: challenging people, or maybe I'm encouraging people that if you

897
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: were really down on this team, you were down on

898
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: all these players, well, this guy will never stay healthy,

899
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: this guy's not going to hit, this guy's not going

900
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 2: to do that. It's okay to have those opinions. I've

901
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: had a lot of them myself. But it's like, if

902
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: they come out and they're different than you thought they were,

903
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: and that's individual players the team as a whole, and

904
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: embrace it, enjoy it, have fun with it. This is

905
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: why we all love sports, right, this is why we

906
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: all have a favorite team. So don't do what like

907
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: sports writers do. Some sports writers do when they make

908
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: a prediction and the like the a team's going to

909
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 2: be bad or whatever, and then the team's a lot

910
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: better than the predictions. It's almost like the writers take

911
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: it personally, you know, they're like, yeah, they're like nasty

912
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: about it. You know, there is like doing the yeah

913
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: butt thing. You know, all its now, embrace it, enjoy it.

914
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: The players don't own the team. The players aren't John Mozilak.

915
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: The players are trying to do their best for the fans.

916
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: So when they're giving you a great show, embrace it,

917
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 2: enjoy it, be happy. If they don't, then you can fuss,

918
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: then you can raise Hell, that's fine too, right. But

919
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: when there's good times, because it's been a tough couple

920
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: of years, when there's good times, just roll with it

921
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: and laugh and enjoy it, you know. Otherwise I don't

922
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: know what the point is exactly.

923
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: It's a long summer. Might as well enjoy it. I

924
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: know I enjoyed this last weekend. I'm hoping that we

925
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: have a lot more fun over the course of the

926
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: next six months. But that's the beauty of baseball. You

927
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: just never know. Yeah. Sant Louis Cardinals back in action

928
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: against the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. I just wish

929
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: it to go buy Anaheim, but maybe that's the California

930
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: and me. I could see my trout play in person,

931
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: which is something I've only seen one time, and I

932
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: may or may not have been over served at an

933
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: Oakland A's game, so I totally remember it.

934
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 3: I'm really excited for this.

935
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: And on that note, well we're about to well, let's

936
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: wrap it up. Bernie to say it was Cardinals three

937
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: and oh.

938
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: Who would have thought?

939
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: Back in action at Bush Stadium tomorrow night for Bernie Micheless,

940
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm katiebu this is Cardinal territory. We will talk to

941
00:44:58,920 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: you next week.