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Speaker 3: My name is who?

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Speaker 2: I love you guys, love you, love you, love you

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Speaker 2: your podcast stars now.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, they're like, do we get to talking

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Speaker 2: So? I love you See you in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: They're so cute.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear her? Burt?

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Speaker 1: How old? How old was she.

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Speaker 2: Six and a half? And then her sister's eight and

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Speaker 2: a half?

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Speaker 1: Such a great age?

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Speaker 2: What is yours? Nine?

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Speaker 1: Ten? He just turned?

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Scott Patterson, aimal and podcast one of them productions, iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: iHeart Media, iHeart Podcast Seeds seven, Episode twenty LAURLILRELEI.

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Speaker 3: I loved it. It was good.

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Speaker 1: That's everybody. Just calm down, Just calm down. Let me

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Speaker 1: get through this. My intrepid crew, Amy Sugarman, Danielle Romo,

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Speaker 1: Suzanne French And there's Scott Patterson right there, Hi, Scott,

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Speaker 1: how you doing? Uh? Tara? Where's Tara is Tara.

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Speaker 4: She'll be here soon.

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Speaker 2: She's going to be in the room with you, Daniel.

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Speaker 4: We're going to be trading places for.

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Speaker 2: She's coming in and then I'm gonna have.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, musical.

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Speaker 4: I know it's gonna be musical. Fourth A.

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Speaker 4: Can I? Yeah, it's Ryan Seacrest's dressing room, but we're

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Speaker 2: Sullivan's Crossing. Is it a trailer or a dressing room.

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Speaker 2: What's band camp other than something funny from American Pot.

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Speaker 4: This is Season seven, Episode twenty Lorelai Lorelei Air date

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Speaker 4: May one, two thousand and seven. With Rory fretting over

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Speaker 3: kind of changed her personality or changed her perspective. I'm

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00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 3: just saying it's not something brand new that happened in

441
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 3: this episode. It happened several seasons ago and has been gradual.

442
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 3: But I you know, I think definitely a lot of

443
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: people are on board with you in that opinion.

444
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So imagine all the mothers and daughters watch the

445
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: show together, bonding over this show, repairing their relationships or

446
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: just bonding even deeper with great relationships, and they're worshiping

447
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: this show, right, and that's what mothers and daughters have

448
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: been doing since two thousand. Okay, generations of younger aspirational

449
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 1: girls bonding with their mothers watching these two characters. And

450
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: to do this to that character and to disappoint the

451
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: fan base to that degree on such a deep level,

452
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: I think is not a good idea. I just I

453
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: am not I'm not down with it. I think it

454
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: was a bad, bad.

455
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 2: Choice, Juzanne. Do the fans think that the character was

456
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,959
Speaker 2: ruined kind of along the seasons of Gilmour Girls or

457
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: with the movies? Because I really feel it in the movies.

458
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: I would agree with you, Amy.

459
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 5: I think that if it was left here with Rory's storyline,

460
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 5: I would have been not happy. But I think that

461
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 5: it was ruined more with the movies. Yeah, for me,

462
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 5: that was just ever razy.

463
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people I think there's a

464
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: spectrum of opinions, obviously, but a lot of people think

465
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 3: it really started much earlier than that, when she slept

466
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,239
Speaker 3: with Dean and she was like, oh why Dean, like,

467
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: you know, to have Dean because he was her boyfriend first,

468
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 3: and then it kind of snowballed from there and then

469
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 3: once she was hanging out with Logan and now she's

470
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 3: stealing yachts. She would never have come up with the

471
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: idea to steal a yacht if she wasn't with Logan,

472
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: like the children would never have come up with that idea.

473
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: But she sure thought of the idea to sleep with

474
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: Dean all on her own. So my thing is like,

475
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: the character is not perfect. Rory has flaws. Sorry if

476
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: I sound so loud, Rory has flaws. That being said,

477
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: those flaws, I was sort of like, those were intriguing

478
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: teenage twenty something flaws. This is sort of.

479
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: Just it's a different show. It's a different show thing

480
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: for me, it's a different show.

481
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: I didn't mind the sleeping with Dean or the yacht stealing.

482
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: Found it kind of interesting to the character. I was like, oh, okay,

483
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: she's making mistakes. This is sort of like this girl's

484
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: going to get a job, and she's too smart to

485
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: have turned down a job betting on another. That's not

486
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 2: what the decision Rory would have made. Yeah, what's it

487
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: the saying too in the hand is worth? What is

488
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: that one.

489
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: In a basket is worth one one two in the

490
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: hand is worth?

491
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what, don't cut off your face despite

492
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 2: your nose.

493
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: No, don't cut off your right, don't throw.

494
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 3: The baby out with the bath water, right, But yeah,

495
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 3: I mean I guess I just figured for that. The

496
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: rest of fellowship specifically, there's only four people in the

497
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: entire country, right, right, I'm not mad to put all

498
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: her eggs in that basket. But she did, and so

499
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 3: now she's going to have to do you with the

500
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 3: fallout from now?

501
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: So what now I've lost lost our track here.

502
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 3: I know, we like went off on a tangent.

503
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: We're on the opening scene.

504
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 5: It's so funny because I message Jack.

505
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, where are we so I can jump in.

506
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: She's like we just started and I was like, okay,

507
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: but anyway, Yeah, So we were just talking about that

508
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: first scene where she's at dinner with them. Oh yeah,

509
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: good scene, but good scene. Happy to see the grandparent gilmore.

510
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 5: Nice to see Richard doing better.

511
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not so like not so annoying, not ch acoustic

512
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: with each other. It's like, oh that was I was

513
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: not into that.

514
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. And not a lot of Emily in this No, No,

515
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: isn't it odd to have Emily in a scene and

516
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: she doesn't say that much. That's true.

517
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: So then we go to uh Luke's diner and Lorlai

518
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: walks in, and Babbett and Miss Patty are whispering because

519
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: they're saving their voices for their I thought it was

520
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: funny when she's they said they were trying.

521
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: That was funny.

522
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 3: Actually, I was like, I think that ship has sailed.

523
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: That was funny. They were great in this episode.

524
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: They were They really stole the whole thing.

525
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the hat.

526
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 3: So laurel I notices.

527
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 2: Luke is back when totally.

528
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 3: And he kind of gives her funny look like why

529
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: are you staring at me? So that was a cute scene.

530
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: And then so then they talk about the boat trip

531
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: that Luke is planning.

532
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: With waitman, is this this Caesar scene? No with Todd Low. No,

533
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: that's not the okay.

534
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: This is this is when Laurli comes and she sits

535
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: at the counter.

536
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: And he gets her coffee and.

537
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: She gets her coffee and you can tell the cup

538
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: is empty because it sounds.

539
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't empty, It just I didn't fill it

540
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: all the way.

541
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then she gives him some advice about April,

542
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: like you know, stop at a hotel and let her

543
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: take a shower and go to this restaurant. So there

544
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: was a cute song or scene ending with the song.

545
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: And then yeah, now Luke and Laurel are all right,

546
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 1: what are they doing now? They're sniffing each other. Yes,

547
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: that's a good descript They're getting this in again, aren't they?

548
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: Like they're both kind of trying to poke the bear

549
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: and see if it's going to work.

550
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: It's like, is it on? Could it be on again?

551
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: What's happening? I think it might be on? I'm not sure. Yeah.

552
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: I thought it was good. I liked the banter where

553
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: she's all the nautical terms and he's like stop it.

554
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: It was so funny. It was great. It was very old.

555
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: It's it's as Danielle Romo would say, it's very season

556
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: three and four. Yeah.

557
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: I like how they try to scale each other's walls.

558
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: I think that's that creates a wonderful tension, you know.

559
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

560
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and then we go to Paris and Rory's

561
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: apartment and Paris has all those other Yale kids medical

562
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: school and they've got the obscene cake.

563
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was actually funny. It was actually funny.

564
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: It was it was did you just like you could

565
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 3: see the cake on the table like you couldn't.

566
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: I was not mad at that whole scene because it

567
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: was like different and it's the Paris I sort of

568
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: enjoy it was all good.

569
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just it was just so Paris that they

570
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: got a naked guy cake because from an erotic bakery,

571
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: because they couldn't find a cadaver cake.

572
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: Is this where we find out Rory has gotten rejected

573
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: at yet another job.

574
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: Yes, San Francisco Chronicle Chicago could have is a Chicago

575
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: Tribune Chicago Chronicles Chicago?

576
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: You have a letter?

577
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: Nailed it research? I attributed to research.

578
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: Also, like is it eighteen forty two? Who's getting letters

579
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: on jobs? Like that? Is so not literally I'm sorry,

580
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 2: but that's not how That's not how it works in

581
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: the two thousands. If you didn't get a job, Yeah,

582
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: we actually had phones back then and people called you

583
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: or they didn't, like, they don't even tell you when

584
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: you don't get a job, right, you just get here.

585
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: You're certainly not getting a letter. But anyway, who needs

586
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: to be This.

587
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: Was all speaking of phones. This is the same scene

588
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: where she goes and tries to call that woman at

589
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: the providence of the job that was pretty cringe. I

590
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: felt bad for her because clearly she was just like

591
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: grasping at straws because now she's freaking out about what

592
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: is she going to do? But still like you just

593
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: don't do that.

594
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: And also most people actually don't have a job like

595
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: the minute they graduate. And also she could go back

596
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 2: to school too, that is an option for her. So

597
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know why she's not like going, well,

598
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: maybe I'll go to graduate school of journalism just like

599
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: Paris is doing. It's like she obviously has good grades, right,

600
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 2: and I don't think it'd be too late. I don't know.

601
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: It's just not tracking for me, but I can I

602
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: can shut up about it.

603
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: The whole scene wasn't tracking for me. I didn't think

604
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: it was funny because I'm not accepting that storyline. I'm

605
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: not accepting it. I want to see Paris rejected it

606
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: from every school. I want to see her in debt.

607
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: That's the character I want to see in Desperate Straits,

608
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: because I think that's where the comedy comes from. We

609
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: see Paris. Yeah, actually, when she's in high stress and

610
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: when she's not getting what she wants.

611
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: I actually agree with you, it would have been better.

612
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, her karma is not that she gets you know

613
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: what I mean? It's also fun everybody and then calms

614
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: her down. We don't want to see her calm down.

615
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: It would have been kind of fun if Rory gets

616
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: the job and Paris, who we all expected to get

617
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: it into twenty schools, is like, gets rejected from everywhere,

618
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: and it's the first time Paris is you know, although

619
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: we did see it when she didn't get into Harvard,

620
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: but whatever, But that would have been interesting.

621
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, a successful New York Times employed Rory getting into

622
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: the program. Consoling a manic Paris who didn't get in

623
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: anywhere is what I want to see. It's just a

624
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: better ride for me. It's more comedy.

625
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would I kind of agree. I would like

626
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: Rory to not be sort of getting rejected from everywhere.

627
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

628
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: Are we doing it again? We're rewriting the show, Yeah we.

629
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: Are, and they people don't love when we do that.

630
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: They don't like that, but whatever, let's lean into what

631
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: we got. What we got is Rory getting rejected from

632
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: everywhere via snail mail, and it's weird.

633
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: Let's keep rewriting this show. I like rewriting the show.

634
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: The next scene is the Dragonfly and Suki and larel

635
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: I are trying to figure out what the hat means. Like,

636
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: was Luke's fun?

637
00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: That was fun?

638
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: And that was very think how do I reciprocate that?

639
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was very girl talk and exactly how we

640
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: do now? He said, hey, does that mean hey? Or

641
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: does that mean hey? Like we literally do do? That?

642
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: Said totally, that was totally best friend talk.

643
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was good.

644
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 3: She got rid of all her Luke stuff so she

645
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 3: doesn't have like any memory, which.

646
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: Also she never would have done. No one does that

647
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: right because.

648
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 3: There was a whole thing earlier about like in season one,

649
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: about the Dean Box and the Max box and it

650
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 3: keeps it in the closet. Yeah, I so I agree

651
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: with that. Yeah, well I guess, you know, maybe the

652
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 3: Luke thing was a little deep, like it cut a

653
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: little deeper, so maybe she got yeah, I mean and

654
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 3: then Suki tells her, well, maybe you could throw on

655
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: a flannel shirt.

656
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so funny. Was great?

657
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: She could have bought one?

658
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

659
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: Also, where's the ring?

660
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: Oh?

661
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they never thank you so much? Amy with some

662
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 2: dropping some knowledge where.

663
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: That's a good point. That's so true. I mean we

664
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: do see it, yes, yes, but right now you know

665
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 3: who wound up with it. But yeah, that.

666
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: Would have been a good sign to you, Scott slash

667
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: Luke that she wanted to get back together. Is if

668
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: suddenly she's just wearing the ring again and she's all,

669
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 2: can I have some coffee? Right?

670
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: That's the cartoon version that a little aggressive.

671
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: But I notice you're wearing the hat I gave you.

672
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: I'm wearing something you gave me.

673
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: So then it goes to Lane and Zach's apartment and

674
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 3: I have to call out the music cue in this scene.

675
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: Oh no.

676
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: So when she was putting the twins down in their

677
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: like bacinette things, the song in the background was it

678
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 3: was a lullaby version of Boys Don't Cry by The Cure.

679
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 3: Oh and I thought, what a perfect song for putting

680
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: your baby boys to sleep, True Don't Cry. Anyways, I

681
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: thought that was true. It was like a lullaby version

682
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: of it. Very nice. So this is so Zach comes

683
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: home with all these brand named groceries from the grocery

684
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: store because he's gotten this call from a guy in

685
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: vapor rub and wants them to want him to be

686
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: the lead guitar I know, and they're gonna go on

687
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: tour for eight weeks and all these great venues and

688
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: then you know, Zach says, part of the deal was

689
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: that Lane and the babies could come along, and so

690
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 3: they're like all happy and excited at least until reality

691
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: sets in. But then it goes to Lorelei arriving home

692
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: and she's driving this suv we've never seen before, but

693
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 3: it had Yeah. I was like, oh yeah, I love

694
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 3: the dragonfly logo on the side, so yeah, maybe she's

695
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: van or whatever. And Rorthy is hiding in her bed

696
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: with one of her blue books that she didn't even

697
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: turn in, oh god, for her final. So this is

698
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: the time we've seen that, because remember it happened the

699
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: other year when she didn't write her final because she

700
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: was sitting there steering out the window because she.

701
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: Was like, oh yeah everything else.

702
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so second second time, but at least she's graduated.

703
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: She can't drop out of school again. And so then

704
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: this is when laurel I is like, you know, you

705
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: have things pretty easy, It's okay, melt down, yeah, And

706
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 3: this is where Rory admits that she was, you know,

707
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: cocky about the whole thing, and which I don't know

708
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: that you are.

709
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: A hockey per se, but like she's just not she's

710
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: having bum luck. But also she did apply to only

711
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 2: the biggest papers ever and then the Providence Journal or

712
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: whatever it was. It's like, maybe she needs to cast

713
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: a wider net. I know I keep saying that, but yeah,

714
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: also Rory would cast a wider net. I'm frustrated just

715
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 2: by the character not doing what I thought the character

716
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: would do.

717
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally frustrating.

718
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's kind of annoying.

719
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: So then we go back to the apartment with the

720
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: babies and Brian suggests it was cute Brian helping with

721
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: the baby.

722
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: That was cute. Yeah, it actually was a funny, cute

723
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 2: scene and he was really good with it. I those

724
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: looked like real babies.

725
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: Yes, they were moving.

726
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: They will look like real baby Scott. They did.

727
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: The whole scene made me very very anxious, the way

728
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: he was handling the baby, and I would just catch,

729
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: just please support the baby's head, please be careful for me.

730
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: I actually thought he did good, but I had the

731
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: same thing like, oh God, should he be touching that baby?

732
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: And then what goes into my mind is like whose

733
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: baby is that? And like who's surrendering their baby to

734
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: these people and then letting them move them around? Like

735
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: it was a little I enjoyed it, but it was

736
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: a little.

737
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: Like too stressed, start to go ooh.

738
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: What's going on with this baby?

739
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: To stressful for me.

740
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Brian actually made the suggestion that Lane should

741
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: bring a nanny or take missus Kim on the tour.

742
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 3: And then you see Lane's wheels start turning about it.

743
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: You know, is this really gonna be able to happen?

744
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: Take it?

745
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: Which I know we'll get to it, but I say, like,

746
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: good for Lane, we'll get to that. I sort of thought, way,

747
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: does you know, like look, not that I don't think

748
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: the roles should be reversed also, but like I like

749
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: that she was like, no, go, you need to go,

750
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: And that was kind of a baller Lane, like I

751
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: got this, I'm independent, I'm strong, I got this. I

752
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: want to support you. You go, And I sort of thought,

753
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: you know, they could use that money too.

754
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was like, they don't both need to

755
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: give up on their dreams. Like if one of them

756
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: could go, go and then they.

757
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: Can switch it. It's like it's very Blake Lively and

758
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: Ryan Reynolds. One works, then the other works. It's like,

759
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: let's do that. Yeah.

760
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 3: So then we go to Luke Steiner and Rory and

761
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 3: Laureli are talking about various celebrities that had setbacks in

762
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: their careers and maybe this setback will give is.

763
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: The gratuitous pop culture. Insert some pop culture because we

764
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 2: don't know how to do it seamlessly anymore.

765
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: But what else exactly like this is fourteen celebrities. We

766
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: got that in there, and then more Luke and Lorelai

767
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: kind of bantering a little. Love was really misunderstanding what

768
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: Laura I was saying. Yeah, she says they're going to

769
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 3: see Miss Patty's act. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And Luke

770
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: thought she was inviting him to go with them, and

771
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: he's like, I'm and she's like, oh no, I was

772
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: just saying that.

773
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: But she kind of was inviting. She was inviting him

774
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: and then he couldn't go. And yes, she was, Yes,

775
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: she was, she was, she was. She was what you say,

776
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: she was dropping, she's dropping the handkerchief. The handkerchief, she

777
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: was sort of putting it out there. Then he didn't

778
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: do it, and then she backs it up, like I was,

779
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: and he wanted to go like it was exactly what Susanne.

780
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it, but I think you're wrong.

781
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: Well I'm allowed to have a different opinion than you.

782
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: It doesn't make either one of them wrong. That wasn't

783
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: at all what I picked up.

784
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: But whatever, what did you pick up? What did you

785
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: pick up?

786
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 3: I think she just was trying to make small talk

787
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: and she's like, so Rory and I are going to

788
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 3: Casey's tonight to see the karaoke.

789
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: I need to see the face because it was all

790
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: in the face to face. She was like, suddenly, I'm saying,

791
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: we're going to you know, Red Lobster. You you like Lobster?

792
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: Like That's how it was to me.

793
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 5: It was Also it was also the reaction of he's

794
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 5: not going and she's like.

795
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And also it's not like a private event.

796
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: He could have been like, I'm going to that too,

797
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: I want to sit with us, you know, like it was.

798
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: But the way, but the way he responded when she

799
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: was trying to backtrack was, you know, made it obvious

800
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: that she was trying to invite him.

801
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: And then he goes, guy, Yes, he goes it's on Hello, Hello.

802
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: It's a nice little scene. I really love the Luke

803
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 1: Laureli banter.

804
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: So yeah.

805
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: And then one when Rory was she went outside to

806
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: take a call from Logan and the job thing went well,

807
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 3: and he said, like he was, she was bummed about

808
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: the fellowship thing. And then did you catch his little

809
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 3: foreshadowing there? He says, I have a feeling in the

810
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: next couple of days you will have moved on.

811
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: Yes, But also, may I throw something out there was

812
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: he in San Francisco? Because it really looked like he

813
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 2: was in a high up hotel room with the bridge

814
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: in the background, and it looked real. It did not

815
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: look like Martha's Vineyard, fake Santa Monica Venice actually looked

816
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: like I was like, I might be crazy, but I

817
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: think this dude's in San Francisco.

818
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: You you mean like Matt Zuker physically was in San Francisco.

819
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: That's what it looked like to me. I mean, I

820
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean maybe he don't know, but it

821
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: sort of looked like they were really shooting it in

822
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: a hotel room with the bridge in the background. But

823
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: I could be stupid.

824
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: Maybe then that's not what happened.

825
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: What did they just put a picture in the window.

826
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: They're not going to spend the money to go up there.

827
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: And look how it looked. I know, but it looks job.

828
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: I mean, they did a really great job. Can somebody

829
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: find out if it really was somebody? Look up Gilmour shooting.

830
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: Are you sure they didn't go to San Francisco?

831
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 3: Oh well, guess if he was already there shooting something else?

832
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 3: Could they have just like hired baby?

833
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, then, why did they make Martha's

834
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: vineyard look so fake? If they're so good at making

835
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: things look real, how are you going to?

836
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: Wait, man, how are you going to make the West

837
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: coast look like the East coast?

838
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: It can't happen, true respect, But I think he was

839
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned, mad Zukrie was at the

840
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: Saint Francis like literally, you know, or the Fairmont.

841
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 5: You know what.

842
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: That's That's how good Matt Zukri is. He believed it

843
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: so much that.

844
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 2: I believe it too. Yeah, it is so true, so true.

845
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: And then to the other two notable things in the

846
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: scene where Rory notices the hat and then also April

847
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: calls and says she can't go on the boat.

848
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 2: Oh that was rough.

849
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Lucas you know, you could tell Luke was disappointed,

850
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: but obviously he's such a good dad. Yeah, he doesn't

851
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: want to bring April down, so he's like, oh, that's fine,

852
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: we'll do it next summer. So but it was a

853
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 3: good you know, I always like to see April, so

854
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 3: that was fun. Yeah, and then we go to karaoke night.

855
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: I believe when they way back in like season two

856
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 3: or three whatever, whenever Rory breaks her arm in the

857
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: car accident with Jess and she there's a scene where

858
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 3: she gets the cast off, and when they're leaving the

859
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 3: doctor's office, they walk past a place that says Casey's

860
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: Bar and Grill. Okay, so I think that's where it is.

861
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: People say there's no bar in stars Hollow because of

862
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: something in the revival, But.

863
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: But there is the bar that that Jackson took.

864
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, saw the name of that place.

865
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: Where stars I thought stars hollows a dry town.

866
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: Well, see that's what everybody thinks. But that one episode

867
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 3: they were walking past Casey's Bar and Grill, it's in

868
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: the back by the church.

869
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 2: Well guess what, I think there's two bars in this town.

870
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 4: I was thinking this is near the relse.

871
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: Oh, that's funny, that's funny. That weird. Yeah, that was

872
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: so random, you know, you.

873
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: Know what you know, I I'm gonna make a big

874
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: reveal here please with a little behind the scenes this

875
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: and it answers. Now, when I was watching this episode

876
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: and this scene came on, I was and I saw

877
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: Rory sitting at the table. I was like, oh my god,

878
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: I remember this so well because we were all there, right,

879
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: practically the entire cast was there, right, and guess what.

880
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 6: We suspected that this was it, right. We suspected that

881
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 6: we weren't going to get a season eight. We felt

882
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 6: and we were even talking about it, because I remember

883
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 6: talking about it with Alexis and just the speculation of it,

884
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 6: and there was some undecided people and we didn't know.

885
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 6: So the feeling in the room was as we were

886
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 6: all kind of you know, gathering maybe as a cast

887
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 6: for the last time, was that we're probably not coming back.

888
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 6: I remember that feeling very very distinctly.

889
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, man, that's sad, and I think it was

890
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: a surprise eyes when I heard that we might be

891
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: coming back for season eight, and there's like, you know, negotiations.

892
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: And so sort of up and down till the end.

893
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, but this did feel like a final

894
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: the final time the cast would be together on set

895
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: and all and so we you know, it was this

896
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: celebratory atmosphere anyway, and you know when when Liz Torres

897
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: and Sally Struthers are in the role, you're gonna have fun.

898
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I have las and fun and joy.

899
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 3: So was that the last scene you shot for this episode?

900
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: I think it was actually.

901
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: And I also say it was very Maisally seen, Like

902
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: I think she took some of this even though she

903
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: wasn't on then, But like the way the town is,

904
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: there's so much of that that goes into Missus Masel,

905
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: just sort of that town, these people together, Like I

906
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: don't know, there's there's a lot from this show that

907
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: I see in her other shows.

908
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: And you know what there was there was something about

909
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: the conversation that I was having with Alexis, the way

910
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: she was sitting at the table, she was you know,

911
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: Alexis was always so she's very she's a little bit withdrawn.

912
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, she's shy, kind of introvert.

913
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: She's very very sweet, and she had so much work

914
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: to do every single day, that she was focused on

915
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: our lines, focused, completely concentrated, completely focused, and we all

916
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: see the results of that. Her work is fantastic and

917
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: that's what it takes. It takes that kind of focus.

918
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: But I noticed when I was talking to her in

919
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: this set as we were shooting it, in between camera setups,

920
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: she didn't go back to her trailer.

921
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: Wow.

922
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: She sat around and she was there was this sort

923
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: of relaxed kind of relief with her.

924
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: Wow.

925
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: And I'd never seen that before. Like she'd really loosened

926
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: up and like was just kind of telling stories and

927
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: everybody was sort of talking freely, and I think everybody

928
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: knew because of that that was an indication that this

929
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: was going to be it, you know.

930
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: Wow. I mean I think there are a lot of

931
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 2: scenes too where she was very young with a lot

932
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: of adults. Do you know what I'm saying, like a

933
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: teenager twenty something?

934
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: Oh, you can't blame her.

935
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: Older, seasoned, legendary actor personality. She grew I could see. Yeah.

936
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, she started at eighteen with no experience and now

937
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: looking she's twenty five and she wants to do film,

938
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: and she's getting offers and she's done some films and.

939
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: She's traveling pants.

940
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 5: I want to say it was going into the last

941
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 5: season of.

942
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: She's just done it basically, Yeah, let me look.

943
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: Wow, So if you're twenty five and you've been on

944
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: a series for seven years, I mean, you got your

945
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: whole career, you got a movie career in front of it.

946
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 5: It was two thousand and five, so she went for it, right,

947
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 5: So she probably started doing it around season five of

948
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 5: the show, so she already had the movie out.

949
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: Because you got to ask yourself, how many people are

950
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: in that position when they're that young and have a

951
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: successful TV series and you're the lead of that TV series,

952
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: have that opportunity to step into a film career Because

953
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: the film career is very rare, it's very hard to

954
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: pull off. And she she had a real opportunity at

955
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: that time. So wow, Yeah, totally understandable.

956
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: Right there, you go so interesting.

957
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: There's several scenes here. It kind of flips back and

958
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: forth between the bar and the diner, but essentially Lane

959
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: comes in to the diner, she says hi to Luke,

960
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: and then Lane they leave to walk over to the

961
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: karaoke night and that's when Lane tells.

962
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 2: Zach this is a scene I like because I really

963
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 2: believe them as a couple in this scene. I like

964
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 2: what Lane did here. I like how Zach responded that.

965
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: At first he's like no, I'm not going, and then

966
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 2: she's like, no, I want you to go, and instead

967
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: of being like no, I know, he's like okay, okay.

968
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: It was very adult. It was very married, responsible, but

969
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 2: cool and supportive. And I really liked them both in

970
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 2: this scene.

971
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: I've never seen Zach and Lane me too. I agree

972
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: in every scene. I mean, they were really terrific together. Yeah,

973
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: and you know, it wasn't all QT cutesy, sweety sweetie

974
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: all the time.

975
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: Or bumbling dummy dopey. It was cool.

976
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they were. They were cool in this and

977
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: they were like solid adults and parents and yeah, that

978
00:51:59,000 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: was it was good.

979
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 3: It was.

980
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 2: It was good.

981
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: It was a little more edge. They gave them a

982
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: little more edge and a little like reality for them

983
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: works better than the sort of soft so they performed

984
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: the comedy better when it's dramatic.

985
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yes, well said yeah.

986
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 3: And did you guys notice when they were in the

987
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 3: diner still that I think it was Zach was mopping

988
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: and there were tire tracks on the floor from when

989
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 3: Kirk drove the car through.

990
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 2: Okay, that's funny. That's a great little detail. That's great,

991
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 2: one of those.

992
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: Great Okay, speaking of Kirk, can we talk about Kirk singing?

993
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: Do you really want to hurt me?

994
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: Hysterical?

995
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 5: I just loved singing everyone back together, like I know,

996
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 5: it felt like like old times, like everyone in the

997
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 5: same room.

998
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: You know, it's like you thought, you know, you thought

999
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: it was great with uh miss miss Patty and Pbet singing,

1000
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: and then you get the Kirk and you go, how

1001
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: are you going to top that? Well, Laura, they did, Yeah,

1002
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: they really that with one of the It was one

1003
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: of the big moments in the show.

1004
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 3: Oh for sure.

1005
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: When you say it was a huge in the whole series, Yeah,

1006
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: it's a huge moment.

1007
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 3: Yea, Yeah, yeah, when when she sings that was it

1008
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 3: just was so well played between the two of you,

1009
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 3: with the you know, the nonverbal communication. It just looks

1010
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: back and forth, and you know, Luke got a little

1011
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 3: choked up. It just was such a great scene.

1012
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna share a personal story, a

1013
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: couple of personal stories with it real briefly here. I've

1014
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: never seen the show, but when I do conventions, or

1015
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: I'm out there in restaurants or wherever I am in

1016
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: the world, people come up and they want selfies, and

1017
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing, and it's always great, and

1018
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: they always talk about this scene. I have never seen

1019
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: this scene. I don't know what they're talking about. I

1020
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: remember doing it, I remember doing it, but I never

1021
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: saw it in its context, you know. And and for

1022
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: for fans, it's such a powerful moment, and it's the

1023
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: thing that that brings them to conventions because they want

1024
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: to talk about that scene. And they said, when you

1025
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: walked into that diner, that song, and and that's all

1026
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: what apart. We were crying. So I'm sitting watching it

1027
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: last night right right, I'm listening on like I'm not

1028
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: giving it any more.

1029
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: I have no idea or do you go yeah, I know, no, no, no, I.

1030
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: Just smile and I'm glad you enjoyed it. And I

1031
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: have no idea what they're talking about because it didn't

1032
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: impact me because I've never seen it.

1033
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 2: But it's so good when you walk in it, it

1034
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: does seem like a film.

1035
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: Right. But then so I'm sitting there last night in

1036
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: the media room on the couch.

1037
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 2: How rich are you? Wow?

1038
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: Why everybody is a media room when no, they don't, sir,

1039
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: no they do not. They call them a media room.

1040
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: They called a family room or line.

1041
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: I need everybody to just calm down right now.

1042
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: Scott's a famous actor who is on a lot of shows.

1043
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 2: He has a media room. I feel like it has

1044
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: reclining chairs. I am that.

1045
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does have a popcorn maker.

1046
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: Actually, it has a very big screen. And it's not

1047
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 2: where their living room or family room is. It's a

1048
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 2: different room where the rest of us folks have one room.

1049
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 3: That is all those.

1050
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: Things I don't even have, Like I only have a

1051
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 2: living room slash family room, slash media room slash office.

1052
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: It's all the same.

1053
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: Room, all right, son, God is rich.

1054
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are in your media room, Richard Gilmore.

1055
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: And so so my wife walks in and she sits

1056
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: down next to me, and that's when Luke walks in

1057
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: and we watched the scene and we're both just we're

1058
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: always gabbing with each other, and we're talking about what's

1059
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: like if you were ever to watch a movie with us,

1060
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: you would tell us to shut up about ten times

1061
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: in the first two minutes because we're just gabbing each other.

1062
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: Oh that was good. That was great. Wasn't that great?

1063
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: But this time we're both silent. Wow, And we're watching

1064
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: this karaoke scene with Laura and Luke, And when it

1065
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: was over, we were just both silent, and I think

1066
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: we were both a little bit emotional.

1067
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the first time.

1068
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: I turned to her and I said, I said, so,

1069
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: this is what you've been talking about. Yeah, I said,

1070
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: this is what the fans we're talking about.

1071
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1072
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: I didn't get it before. The first time in my life,

1073
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: I realized the real power of that relationship.

1074
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 2: It's really good for the fans, and it's great face acting,

1075
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: great face act.

1076
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 5: Literally, like, I have the biggest smile on my face

1077
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 5: watching that scene because because of Scott.

1078
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 2: Like yeah, because he's like a stuff that walks in

1079
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 2: and he's got the face and he's like cool and

1080
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: orders his beer and there's not he didn't say one thing,

1081
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: and you're like, wow, this is happening.

1082
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: I tell you, that show put me in some good situations.

1083
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of makes you like a stud. It's funny. Gilmore,

1084
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: girls really like upped your game. I bet, like, because

1085
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: you're just always doing cool stuff.

1086
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: As Luke, You're only you're only as good as the script. Yeah,

1087
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, you're only hopefully it don't screw up a

1088
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: good script.

1089
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's so that's not even a script somehow,

1090
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: that's really you What do they say? He's cool, he

1091
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: gets Yeah, you get to.

1092
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: Do that, right? You read it? No, I get to

1093
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: do that?

1094
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Cool? It was good.

1095
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 3: Great, that would be cool because when you're acting it

1096
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 3: and you know there the script says, you know, Luke

1097
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 3: gets choked up or whatever, so then Scott has to

1098
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: be Luke getting choked up. But it's the editing that's

1099
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 3: it all together. And so that's you know, and you

1100
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 3: see like the back and forth between Luke and Lorelai,

1101
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 3: and it's just it's an amazing scene.

1102
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: But it's singing when you walk in. Is that so

1103
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,479
Speaker 2: that is really Happening's okay?

1104
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: Right? And then she starts singing.

1105
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: But I mean, in real life when you film it,

1106
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: is she singing? Are you able to act with her

1107
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: in that scene? It's not like that was shot okay, okay,

1108
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's not like they're just like, let's capture

1109
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: Scott coming in.

1110
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: No. No, I mean yeah, they turned the camera around.

1111
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: Of course, but she's still doing her thing.

1112
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if she was singing off camera for me,

1113
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't I think she was. I'm not I don't really.

1114
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: Like it by the scene.

1115
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: But actually, to be honest with that, it's not hard

1116
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: to react that way. I mean, if somebody's not singing us,

1117
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: they just play the maybe that maybe they just played

1118
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: the song.

1119
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: But it was her face. It's like, I wouldn't be

1120
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: able to like pretend that lamp is Lauren and Laura

1121
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: I and she's singing, and you're.

1122
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: Like, but I did that lamp, but I did that,

1123
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: my face.

1124
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: Would be so whack. I mean, I also realize.

1125
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: Do you know what? Do you know what they do?

1126
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: They put an orange X on the very side of

1127
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: the camera, right below the lens, and that's the person.

1128
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: So you got to react to that.

1129
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: I realize I do that a lot. How bad of

1130
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 2: an actor I would be or am when I watch

1131
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: Sometimes I come across us on Instagram and I'm like,

1132
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: could I touch my face four hundred and twelve times

1133
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: while we're doing this podcast?

1134
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 1: Doing it right now?

1135
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: I know, the whole podcast is just me like wiping

1136
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: my eyes, moving my hair, touching my face. I mean

1137
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: I literally just look like and.

1138
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1139
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 2: I've given up. I've given up on trying to look

1140
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 2: cute when we do this. I'm just like, I'm just

1141
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: gonna get in there and talk about the ship.

1142
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: But anyway, is the key is having interesting posters right

1143
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: behind thank you.

1144
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they literally must city like, as an actor, don't

1145
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,439
Speaker 2: touch your face because like, nobody wants to see this.

1146
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: No, you know, I mean, if you're going to touch

1147
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: your face, it had better be for a very good reason.

1148
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah right, not just every time.

1149
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: I think that scene was so important and the producers

1150
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: knew that, oh yeah, so important that I'm sure Lauren

1151
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: was there singing to me because they that connection.

1152
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: I think it is a pivotal moment.

1153
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: It's also listen, let's let's just say this. It's it's

1154
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: it's a really relatable moment for everybody. Everybody's had a

1155
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: moment like that, whether it's at a birthday party or

1156
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: a dinner or something like that. We've all had a

1157
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 1: moment like that where we're sort of like a little

1158
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: blushing and something works out for us and whatever situation

1159
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: it's in, and you're just like, oh, you.

1160
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 2: Know what, it totally reminds me of And this might

1161
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: be so weird. It reminds me of the scene in

1162
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: Sixteen Candles when Molly Ringwald comes out of the church

1163
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: and Jake there with the Porsche and they really don't

1164
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 2: talk to each other. In the scene, she he goes

1165
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: like waves at her and she looks behind her, like

1166
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: who's he she goes and he goes, yeah, you. And

1167
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: it's like that same thing where you're like across this

1168
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 2: sort of kind of vast space, but it's like these

1169
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: two and you're just like, oh my god, it's on

1170
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: like that.

1171
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: That's cool.

1172
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: So that was what it remained.

1173
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: That was a big you could call that moment a

1174
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: big movie moment.

1175
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so game changer.

1176
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: That's an iconic movie moment.

1177
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's why people love the scene so much,

1178
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: and it's why it's so viral. It's all over.

1179
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: The they've seen the scene before in many other films.

1180
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: Sixteen Candles big impact, big, big impact on an.

1181
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 2: Audience, or like a million scenes in movies where the

1182
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: person's singing or you know, the person walks into the bar,

1183
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 2: they're dancing, like they see each other across the the bar.

1184
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: You would write an entire movie just to get up

1185
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: to that scene, you would have that. Yeah, let's fill

1186
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: it get.

1187
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 2: There, correct. I think that at this episode knew that,

1188
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 2: and then it one ups it because is the next

1189
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 2: scene the scene.

1190
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 3: So before we leave the karaoke bar, I just wanted

1191
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 3: to point out one little thing behind On the wall

1192
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 3: behind Laureli there was a sign for Boozoo Barnes. Do

1193
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 3: you guys remember who Boozoo was?

1194
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 5: I remember the name, but I don't.

1195
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 3: He was the zydecode guy that came to audition for

1196
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 3: Laurelized wedding and she couldn't get him to stop.

1197
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 5: Oh.

1198
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 3: Yes, anyways, I thought that was a cute little shout out.

1199
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 2: So random, but yeah.

1200
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 3: So then we go to It's the next morning, laurel

1201
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 3: Ize hungover and Rory is saying, you know, sometimes you

1202
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 3: have to let your feelings out, and Laurelize like, yeah,

1203
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 3: I guess. So cute little kind of a little throw

1204
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 3: away scene, but it was cute. And then we go

1205
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 3: to Chilikila's scene.

1206
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 5: And which sounds so good right now?

1207
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: I know, I know it does, doesn't it. Yeah.

1208
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 3: One of the things I like about this show is

1209
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 3: that you can watch it a million times and you

1210
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 3: always see something new. Every time. Last night, when I

1211
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,439
Speaker 3: rewatched this, I heard Zach say something I have never

1212
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 3: heard him say before. He said, Gypsy does a mean

1213
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 3: Pat Benatar?

1214
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh.

1215
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 3: My gosh, I would have loved to have seen that.

1216
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I wonder if they shot that.

1217
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:39,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it was, Maybe it was. That was pretty cool.

1218
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 3: And then so this is where Zach find finds an air,

1219
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 3: quotes the black cat that was mysteriously stuffed behind the dishwasher,

1220
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 3: and gives it back to Luke and he.

1221
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1222
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how something gets lost behind the dishwasher

1223
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 3: unless it was someone in the And then so this

1224
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 3: is I think this is what the scene.

1225
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 2: Dud dun dun dum.

1226
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 3: Logan shows up at Laurels. So you want to take

1227
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 3: this one, Amy.

1228
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: No, you keep going. I'll just give my thoughts. I

1229
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: like it. I like it.

1230
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 3: Logan is back from San Francisco or a backdrop of

1231
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 3: San Francisco, whichever it was, and he tells her that

1232
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 3: he got the job. He's been offered the job in

1233
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 3: Palo Alto, and he wants to take Rory with him

1234
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 3: and is seeking Laurelized permission to ask her to marry him.

1235
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 2: Ju see juicy unexpected? Yeah, here expected juicy cool.

1236
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: I loved the scene. However, however, I turned to my

1237
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: wife and I said, I'm scared.

1238
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm scared.

1239
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: This is me trying to rewrite stuff which people love.

1240
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: When I do this, they do they sure to love it.

1241
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: And uh. I turned my wife and said, that should

1242
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: have been the scene preceding the care.

1243
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I actually agree with you.

1244
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: Right, well, exactly why are we leaving the cliffhanger on

1245
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: that when we had the big moment of the show

1246
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: and then then you go out.

1247
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: I actually think what could have been cool is you

1248
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 2: end on maybe even finding the hat because it's sort

1249
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: of a bump bump moment. You open the next episode

1250
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 2: with them with this right immediately after karaoke. She's home,

1251
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: she's on the sort of high of the karaoke and

1252
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,919
Speaker 2: what does it all mean in her logan, and we

1253
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 2: start the episode with the I want to marry her.

1254
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 2: We start the next one with that.

1255
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 3: Okay, the way they set it up was very Amy

1256
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 3: Sherman Pallatino like, we've talked about that before. How you

1257
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 3: think you're at the end of the episode, and then

1258
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 3: she like keeps me in the butt with some other Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

1259
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 3: it's kind of what this was like. I felt like

1260
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 3: they were kind of true to her pattern of writing.

1261
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, well there's only what three two more, three more

1262
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 5: after this more? Yeah, but it's like the final stretch

1263
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 5: of kids People Juicy.

1264
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's juicy. You know.

1265
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: Laurel's reaction to that started out to be funny, so

1266
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: I started I started to almost laugh with she just was,

1267
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, gobsmacked. Yeah, but then it was she kept

1268
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: holding that stare and it was like, oh.

1269
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 5: Okay, I did like the Laurel I LORELEI is it like?

1270
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 5: Went to credits. I did like how that was done. Yeah, yeah,

1271
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 5: yeah it was which is the name of the episode.

1272
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 5: But it was very well done.

1273
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1274
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 3: I one was over the credits.

1275
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, overall, terrific episode, just to really really.

1276
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 2: What do you give it? What do you give it?

1277
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: Well?

1278
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 2: I go last year, Oh pardon me, I have shall

1279
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: go first. This time I am going to give it ten.

1280
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: Wow.

1281
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, ten. I will always love use the Whitney

1282
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 2: Houston version.

1283
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: Not the Dolly.

1284
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: Not the Dolly, I'll go next.

1285
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 3: I loved this episode. This is always something I look

1286
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 3: forward to in a rewatch, so I'm also going to

1287
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 3: give it a ten. I'm going to give it ten

1288
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 3: Naked mancakes, Oh nice.

1289
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 4: I really loved it as well.

1290
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 5: I'm going to give it nine point five chili lace

1291
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 5: oh good.

1292
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to give it a ten plus.

1293
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 2: Wow, We've never had a ten plus.

1294
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: And the Olympics. I'm gonna say a little French, a

1295
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: little super okay, okay, and uh and I don't have

1296
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: a measuring stick.

1297
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 2: Well get one, dude, I'll go look for hats.

1298
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, I go. Yeah, uh yeah, terrific,

1299
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: terrific episode, like really iconic moments. Sad to see uh

1300
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: rory spiral. But yeah, the last two episodes, it will

1301
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,919
Speaker 1: be interesting. It'll be very eager to see what happens.

1302
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, uh huh what however, ending you

1303
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: want or I want whatever, it doesn't really matter. I'm

1304
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: watching the next one with interest, Like I almost had

1305
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: to watch it.

1306
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 5: I had to turn it off or I would have

1307
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 5: hit next episode the whole I turned the whole TV off.

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Speaker 1: But actually it's interesting because I'm I'm watching House of

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Speaker 1: Cards for the first time. I really wanted to get

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Speaker 1: to House of cards.

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Speaker 2: I love a binge. That's an old binge. I am

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Speaker 2: binging for the third time. Thank you Netflix, prison Break

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Speaker 2: right back onto prison break.

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Speaker 1: Wow, okay, all right, that's gonna do what everybody next episode,

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Speaker 1: season seven episode think they ah onto the breach and uh,

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Speaker 1: we'll see you next time. Thank you, tire Suit Daniel,

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Speaker 1: Roma Susse and French the one the only champion ex

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Speaker 1: champion ski racer Amy Sugarman. Mm hmm you specialized in

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Speaker 1: the slalom or the downhill. I think it was a

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Speaker 1: downhill downhill world record. Thank you for sure, best fans

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Speaker 1: on the planet. Keep those cards and letters coming. We

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Speaker 1: love them and we love you. We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: And remember we and I am all In. Stay safe everyone, everybody,

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