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Speaker 1: The following episode was recorded before the WGA sag Aftra

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Speaker 2: Hey folks, we're going to deal with politics today and voting,

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Speaker 2: which is something that is extremely extremely close to my heart.

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Speaker 2: My mother was an activist in Philadelphia where we grew up.

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Speaker 2: There was a kind of understanding in our family that

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Speaker 2: you had to vote and that you had to use

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Speaker 3: That the day that.

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Speaker 2: You went to get to the polls, to cast your

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Speaker 2: vote and to make your specific opinions known were very,

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Speaker 2: very integral to what it meant to not only be

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Speaker 2: an American or in our case of Philadelphia, but also

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Speaker 2: to be a human being. I think that there's more

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Speaker 2: and more young people these days who are a voting age,

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Speaker 2: and we need more and more young people not only,

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Speaker 2: great that this episode today is airing on November seventh. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is an off year election. It's got gubernatorial and

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Speaker 2: state elections in a few states, but they are very

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Speaker 2: very important. There's a lot that you can do with

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Speaker 2: the polls. This is why today is the perfect day

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Speaker 2: to share my interview with a lot of Glazer and

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Speaker 2: her organization generator collective, fascinating discussion, and she's great and

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun and very very politically active, so leaning,

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited that we have a lot of Glazer

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Speaker 2: with us, who, as I'm sure all of you know,

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Speaker 2: was a co creator and star of broad City, which

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Speaker 2: was a giant, giant hit for so many years and

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Speaker 2: an awesome show and hilarious and great and uh, she's

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Speaker 2: also done a whole ton of other stuff. And we're

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Speaker 2: so excited that you're here today on this on this show.

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Speaker 2: It's so nice to meet you.

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Speaker 3: You too, Kevin, thanks so much on that talk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, weirdly, I'm always I'm always surprised when I

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Speaker 2: actually meet somebody who's path I haven't actually crossed. As

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Speaker 2: far as I know, we haven't met this or worked

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Speaker 2: together or been in the same thing together even.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, not yet. But life is long.

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Speaker 2: Life is long. Life is long. It's getting shorter for me,

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Speaker 2: but it is definitely still we still have some time,

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Speaker 2: I hope. Yeah, I'm I I'm so fascinated about your

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Speaker 2: had had a certain uh, you know, you were kind

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Speaker 2: to me. So tell me about this this. Well, first off,

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Speaker 2: you grew up in New York.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I grew up on Long Island, in uh eastern

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Speaker 3: dial Long Island. That was really the culture there. And uh,

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Speaker 3: I always was looking toward the city. I kind of

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Speaker 2: Did you visit when you were a little girl? Did

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Speaker 2: you come their parents take care?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah. My brother and I were really into musicals

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Speaker 3: my parents were too. They are a lover of the arts,

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Speaker 3: so that was that was like our exciting thing.

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Speaker 2: They weren't in the arts though, they were, They were

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. They both are creative spirits, but never pursued

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Speaker 2: And what's the age between you and.

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Speaker 3: he's also a comedian and he played my brother in

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Speaker 3: Broad City. Yeah I know that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's what do you feel about working with family? I

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Speaker 2: bring this up because, uh, my wife is an actress,

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Speaker 2: I also play music, so I I work with him

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it makes it's it's easier in some

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Speaker 3: But then I think for me, so far, I think

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Speaker 3: not it's so so deep in your spine. Can I

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I think if we returned, I would

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Speaker 3: a little more fun. I think, like on Bread City

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Speaker 3: sometimes I was tense in certain ways.

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Speaker 2: Was on all five seasons, he was I.

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Speaker 3: Think we started introducing our families in the second season,

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Speaker 3: So four seasons, and he wrote on the fifth season, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm thinking of right now, your movie

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Speaker 3: The woods Men, which yeah, you and Kira and Karia

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Speaker 3: work with your partner on Oh my god that I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's so dark. That movie is so dark, but it's

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Speaker 3: like one of my favorite movies of all time because

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Speaker 3: it was just so I don't know how. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how you did that, but working with family that's

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Speaker 2: That was like, that was oh yeah, oh yeah. It

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Speaker 2: was also also just even if we weren't in it

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Speaker 2: she was if I can just digress with a little

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Speaker 2: was cast uh the director uh Nicole Cassell wanted here

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Speaker 2: Script ended up weirdly in my lap, and so I said,

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Speaker 2: And she actually pulled out of the movie about two

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Speaker 5: And I so get it because the material and the

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Speaker 5: it was so heavy and diving into it. Yeah, like

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Speaker 5: I don't like just the way that movie stuck with

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Speaker 3: because it's not just oh, a comedy and you know,

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Speaker 3: that way that was so deep and looked like it

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Well you know it was, you know, but

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Speaker 2: it was worth it. And tell me the genesis. To me,

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Speaker 2: the genesis of broad City is really fascinated, So maybe

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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny also that you say a harbinger of

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Speaker 3: it feels to me now so old to have a

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Speaker 2: And I guess I meant that it came out of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of feels like just like a band

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Speaker 2: An amazing amazing Yeah, just Kara did their one of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like I never went to my like

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Speaker 2: General studies, general study.

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Speaker 3: It is literally like four kids who went to public school,

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Speaker 2: You're focused on comedy, you were right from middle school.

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Speaker 2: You were pretty clear that that's what that was going

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Speaker 3: Actually, like even earlier, my brother and I made sketch videos.

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Speaker 3: Just that was like our childhood making sketch videos and

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Speaker 2: Funny when you when you and your brother would do

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Speaker 3: They thought we were hysterical. They could not believe what

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Speaker 3: we were totally, totally. They were a very receptive audience.

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Speaker 3: why I love stand up traveling for stand up is

436
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Speaker 3: like I'm going to just go two nights mass at

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Speaker 3: a time and I can control that, and I don't

438
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Speaker 3: want to bring my baby. It's like I like splitting

439
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Speaker 3: my attention. I find it really hard. It's much easier

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Speaker 3: for me to work when I go away, go to

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Speaker 3: the office. I'm so I feel so like my heart

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Speaker 3: is like on the outside of my chest when I'm

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Speaker 3: around her. So it's it's better if I just go myself,

444
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Speaker 3: do my thing and come back.

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Speaker 2: I totally respect that. That's that's that's cool. That's cool.

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Speaker 2: Like how old? How old is the baby?

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Speaker 3: She's too?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 2: Having heard that, did that? I mean I know that. Uh,

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Speaker 2: I didn't really think that. Let's see, how can I

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Speaker 2: put this. I mean when I was when I was

452
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Speaker 2: real young, I was a little bit interested in things

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Speaker 2: of a political nature when I was like twelve and thirteen.

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Speaker 2: But once I really started my own career, I got

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Speaker 2: I got very interesting things in a Kevin Bacon nature,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I was like so focused

457
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Speaker 2: on making it and you know, being a star and

458
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Speaker 2: you know the you know, like acquiring stuff and all

459
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Speaker 2: those things. But after oh no, it's totally true. After

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Speaker 2: my son was born, I think. And also I got

461
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Speaker 2: married and had a kid, like within about a year,

462
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Speaker 2: and oh wow. And Kira was already, you know, really

463
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Speaker 2: focused when we met on climate which in those days

464
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Speaker 2: was called global warming, and also having the child, I

465
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Speaker 2: think both of us. She was already there. But I

466
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Speaker 2: sort of had to say, Okay, I'm gonna step out

467
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Speaker 2: of my own self a little bit and start, you know,

468
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Speaker 2: reading the fucking paper, you know, at least aside from

469
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Speaker 2: the Hollywood Reporter and and and so that was a

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Speaker 2: pretty profound thing. But it sounds to me like you

471
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Speaker 2: were already pretty politically and societally motivated before the birth

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Speaker 2: of your child.

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Speaker 3: You know. It's like I used to like put like

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Speaker 3: reasons on it outside of my just the person that

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Speaker 3: I am. Oh you know, I was. I was a

476
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Speaker 3: minority growing up white, a white minority, and there and

477
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Speaker 3: you know, there were brown and black and Asian people

478
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Speaker 3: in my town who were a minority and had a

479
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Speaker 3: much more challenging minority experience. But because I was a

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Speaker 3: minority growing up, I have this you know point of view,

481
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Speaker 3: or because I'm a woman, or because Long Island is

482
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Speaker 3: really conservative, but it is just who I am to

483
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Speaker 3: have that. I've always uh been drawn to basic human

484
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Speaker 3: rights basically just like fairness for people to be treated

485
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Speaker 3: appropriately and respectfully. But I did not I did not

486
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Speaker 3: know that it was like political really until Broad City

487
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Speaker 3: when the web series. When we were doing the web

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Speaker 3: series and we were starting to get press as a

489
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Speaker 3: web series, there was this one article by a writer

490
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Speaker 3: named Megan Angelo who were with the Wall Street Journal,

491
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Speaker 3: and she said broad City is meek attack feminism. And

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Speaker 3: I've used that phrase one thousand times ever since. But

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Speaker 3: it's it was the feminist part that was arresting to

494
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Speaker 3: Abby and I. We genuinely didn't know it was feminist, genuinely.

495
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Speaker 3: It was just we were just being we were fish

496
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Speaker 3: swimming in the water.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the big the more visible that the project got

499
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Speaker 3: and the more reflection, I mean, it's it's it is

500
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Speaker 3: such a privilege to me to be reflected in this way.

501
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Speaker 3: People are like her characters by and I'm like, oh, really,

502
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Speaker 3: I thought I was just queer and into different kinds

503
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Speaker 3: of people and just into sex, sex positivity. You know,

504
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Speaker 3: these phrases that are like these labels. Like so it's

505
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: like so funny, you know, to be reflected in this

506
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Speaker 3: way as part of a category or a thought leader

507
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Speaker 3: what you know, Like I'm just like doing my thing

508
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Speaker 3: and comedy in the old days, my god, Like really

509
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: the old days when there were no smartphones to capture

510
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: anything and people were being super fucking naughty on stage.

511
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Speaker 3: A lot of it was shitty. A lot of it

512
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Speaker 3: was misogyny. That's not that's not a joke. That's racist,

513
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: that's not a joke, that's just sexist. But also like

514
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: funny shit that was trans that was that was women

515
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Speaker 3: doing naughty shit, that was men making fun of misogyny,

516
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Speaker 3: you know. Like so like it was just this different

517
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Speaker 3: time where there was less uh literally less looking at

518
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Speaker 3: ourselves all day, looking at her own pictures all day.

519
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Speaker 3: It is that is not natural for the brain, you know.

520
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: So I feel like my coming to this consciousness is

521
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Speaker 3: analogue at this point. But yeah, I've been told it's political.

522
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: I've come to the understanding of how it's political come

523
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Speaker 3: to harness that political charged, that political charge for activation.

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Speaker 3: But in my personal life and even actually in my

525
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Speaker 3: advocacy work, I'm now like coming back to a place

526
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Speaker 3: where I'm like, it's not fucking political. It's not political

527
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Speaker 3: to not hate.

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Speaker 5: You know, we've actually used hate as a political tool.

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't buy it. If you want to talk

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Speaker 3: about the way that.

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Speaker 5: We approach inflation, okay, that's politics.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to do that paperwork. I'm actually that's

533
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Speaker 3: what that's above my pay grade. But hate, you know,

534
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Speaker 3: you're uncomfortable with your own with your own gender inside

535
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Speaker 3: of you, so you want to take that out as

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Speaker 3: violence on children who are expressing their gender freely. No,

537
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Speaker 3: that's not politics, that's violence. That's cool, that's you know.

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Speaker 3: And climate, the climate crisis. You want to deny the

539
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Speaker 3: climate crisis. This isn't even reality, you know, Like I'm

540
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: very like to me, it's like kind of about, uh,

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Speaker 3: who on this planet is still operating within reality? That

542
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Speaker 3: honestly is the majority? To me, that's the majority because

543
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: such a small minority are actually benefiting from this twisted

544
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: lie version of the world that I really I I do.

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Speaker 3: I do have this like natural hope that most people,

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Speaker 3: the majority of people are living in reality and want

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Speaker 3: to Well, you.

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Speaker 2: Mentioned that that's what you're kind of seeing out on

549
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Speaker 2: the road, and so that's that that I think is

550
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Speaker 2: is is one of the great benefits of being on

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Speaker 2: the road. And you know, you you can really get

552
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Speaker 2: get wound up in this idea that that that they're

553
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Speaker 2: that the that the majority of people and the majority

554
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Speaker 2: of what you're reading it really is hate based. And

555
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Speaker 2: I agree with you that I just don't think.

556
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Speaker 3: And that's part of the oppressive tool. That's the minority

557
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: saying no, no, no will say you like, no, you won't.

558
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Speaker 3: You're taking healthcare away from women, away from children, away

559
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Speaker 3: from teenagers, the most vulnerable, Like that's part of the

560
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: tool to make us scared, to make us paranoid and

561
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Speaker 3: look at our neighbors fearfully. And it's not true, it's

562
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: not true. That's a privilege. Also, I think of living

563
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Speaker 3: in a place with a lot of people, that energy

564
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: of you know, whether it's going on the road and

565
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: speaking a lot of people or naturally stepping out onto

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Speaker 3: the street and walking by a lot of people, like

567
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: human nature. While hate is a part of human nature,

568
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: that primal instinct of fear or wariness of people not

569
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: like you, that's a human thing. It's not like that

570
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: was made up and separate from our humanity. But this disproportionate,

571
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: sort of like you know, costco amazoning of hate, the

572
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Speaker 3: math produced cookie cutter version of hate. It's just it's unnatural.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think this is a good segue to bring

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Speaker 2: Glennis out. Glennis Bahar, who you start a generator collective with? Well,

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Speaker 2: before we speak about the organization and what you do,

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Speaker 2: how did the two of you meet and how did

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Speaker 2: you come up with this idea?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so Glennis and I have a mutual best friend,

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Speaker 3: our friend Matt, and when the election happened in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 3: we found ourselves saying how did this happen? How did

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Speaker 3: this happen? Glennis had worked in DC and because of

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Speaker 3: that I assumed she understood how she works in politics,

592
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Speaker 3: and she was like, no, I have no fucking idea.

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Speaker 3: And we found in our in We found that in

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Speaker 3: talking our mutual indignance at how the system is made

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Speaker 3: purposely elusive to make us feel like we are too

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Speaker 3: dumb to be able to access it and make use

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Speaker 3: of it. So we started the Generator Collective and it

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Speaker 3: was it was a s faith to gather and talk

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Speaker 3: about politics without shame for not knowing how shit works.

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Speaker 3: You know, as a comedian, I have I am down

601
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Speaker 3: for people to laugh at me, so I bite the

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Speaker 3: bullet for the audience and say, I actually don't know

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Speaker 3: how that simple thing works. I've heard about it a

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Speaker 3: million times and I just don't know. And we started

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Speaker 3: as like an online community, but moved in to a

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Speaker 3: live event form where I interviewed activists and politicians and

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Speaker 3: elected officials to ask them simple fucking questions. And also

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Speaker 3: like ideally one hinges from one to the other. You know,

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Speaker 3: Shirley Chisholm, the first Laft congresswoman, she was a community

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Speaker 3: organizer first and then became a congress person. And that's

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Speaker 3: the ideal politician to me. And then we uh in

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Speaker 3: twenty two, then we started these dance parties where we

613
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Speaker 3: host just like fifth dance parties, but we take breaks

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Speaker 3: every thirty minutes to have an elected official come on

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Speaker 3: stage and tell the audience about the next election, and

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Speaker 3: to create a cheat sheet for the people who came

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Speaker 3: so that you know, it's fucking hard. You have to

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Speaker 3: like do research to find who to vote for, and

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Speaker 3: sometimes you vote for you know, Okay, I'm voting along

620
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Speaker 3: party lines, but actually this person might be a Democrat

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Speaker 3: but they're whack. So to vote for the right people

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Speaker 3: and to create a cheat sheet for the voting booth.

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Speaker 8: So in twenty twenty, we had a hybrid tour where

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Speaker 8: I was going on stand up and I was like,

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Speaker 8: let's take Jenny socials on the road too, And when

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Speaker 8: that got lockdown, we pivoted our Jenny social messaging to

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Speaker 8: digital and created an online series called cheat Sheet for.

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Speaker 3: The Voting Booth. We've been making digital messaging for to

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Speaker 3: create cheat sheets in key states for elections from twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty to twenty twenty two. That's my spiel, Glennis, Did

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Speaker 3: I miss anything? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think there's just there's two kind of core tenants

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Speaker 4: of Generator. I think Alana and I, you know, Alana

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Speaker 4: assumed because I worked in DC. I worked for the

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Speaker 4: Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, where I learned a

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Speaker 4: lot very quickly. I was a fundraiser. I think I

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Speaker 4: was twenty three or twenty four. I was working for

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Speaker 4: Priorities USA Option, which was one of the first Democratic

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Speaker 4: super PACs, and Democrats had created super PACs in response

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Speaker 4: to Republicans creating super PACs. And I remember I think

641
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Speaker 4: I had like one million dollars on my person walking

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Speaker 4: back from the po box and I thought, this is

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Speaker 4: disgusting corporate finance. Everything's awful. I'm going to go into

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Speaker 4: the private sector. That was its own world right of

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Speaker 4: six years and Alana and I were at the Cinner Party,

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Speaker 4: and we woke up in a country that we felt

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Speaker 4: like we didn't understand. And there's a reason for that,

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00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 4: because politics government was made purposely elusive, and we wanted

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Speaker 4: to create something that we felt there was a real

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Speaker 4: need for, which was a space to feel that you

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Speaker 4: could learn and not feel shame around learning, with the

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Speaker 4: hopes of ultimately engaging more as a citizen. Because we're

653
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Speaker 4: seeing how polarizing this hyperpartisan world is that we operate in,

654
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Speaker 4: and that's not good for anyone. It's not good for

655
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Speaker 4: how you feel, it's not good for human rights, it's

656
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: not good for democracy. So, you know, post COVID and

657
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: pivoting to digital media, we have really tried to use

658
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Speaker 4: our social media platform to help more people engage with

659
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Speaker 4: politics and in government in a way that does not polarizing.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome. It's awesome. I loved in the materials when

661
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Speaker 2: you talked about, you know, feeling kind of politically dumb.

662
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Speaker 2: I could really kind of relate to that because I

663
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Speaker 2: can tell you that, you know, I read the paper,

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Speaker 2: and I have strong views about a lot of different things.

665
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Speaker 2: But I really find myself terrified to enter into any

666
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Speaker 2: kind of actual political discussions with anybody that I think

667
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Speaker 2: is not in line with my way of thinking. And

668
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Speaker 2: part of the reason is is because these days it

669
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Speaker 2: seems like people will throw facts at you, and unless

670
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Speaker 2: you've had the the unless you're someone that can hold

671
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Speaker 2: on the facts, which I am not, I can't hold

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Speaker 2: onto it. I can't hold on to anything factual. I

673
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Speaker 2: can hold on the feelings. I can hold on to

674
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Speaker 2: experiences or or or you know, I can drive to

675
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Speaker 2: the store today, see that the sun is covered with

676
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Speaker 2: smoke from Canada. But but to actually get into an

677
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Speaker 2: argument about whether or not that's just a natural occurrence

678
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Speaker 2: or is actually, uh, you know, a result of human

679
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Speaker 2: climate change is like something that I find really kind

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Speaker 2: of terrifying, I think, And I don't think I'm alone

681
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Speaker 2: in that, and I certainly don't think I'm alone in

682
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Speaker 2: that in terms of like young people in the country.

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Speaker 2: And so I think that that's you know, when you

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Speaker 2: when you when you focus on that, I find that

685
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Speaker 2: really really interesting and.

686
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Speaker 3: The exact thing feeling that's what like generator is. I

687
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: think that's like the space that we're entering, like feeling politics.

688
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Speaker 3: You shouldn't have to know facts to argue whether something

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Speaker 3: is scientifically real or not. You know, Like I think

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Speaker 3: that that the like news cycle and the divisive algorithms

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Speaker 3: have made it such that we feel like we have.

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Speaker 7: To have a book report to argue our our views,

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Speaker 7: and it's it's just you're exactly dead on about the feeling,

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Speaker 7: like yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And just to add to that, Alana and I

696
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Speaker 4: talk a lot about these, you know, the political system

697
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Speaker 4: being physically disenfranchising, like literally I think this year alone,

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Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty voter suppression laws have been you know,

699
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Speaker 4: put out in state legislature, so you know that's physically happening,

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Speaker 4: and then culturally, so many young people feel wildly disenfranchised

701
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Speaker 4: because the system makes it impossible, to your point, Kevin,

702
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Speaker 4: to engage with it. Because if you don't know one

703
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 4: talking point, or someone else knows ten more talking points

704
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Speaker 4: than you, why are you going to go into that conversation.

705
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 4: You're gonna feel demoralized put down when really you just

706
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Speaker 4: want to stand up for what's right. So a generator,

707
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 4: we try and embrace that that energy of I want

708
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 4: to vote for my neighbor in a way that is

709
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Speaker 4: going to be centered in human rights and just doing

710
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Speaker 4: more good for this country. And you know we do

711
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 4: that mainly through digital media and just creating a culture

712
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 4: by what you feel like you can share on your

713
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 4: social media. Everyone has influence. Everyone has a platform, whether

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Speaker 4: you have thirty followers or three point formula and like

715
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Speaker 4: you have on TikTok I follow it's great. You know

716
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: you have a voice and you should feel confident in

717
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Speaker 4: using it to stand up for what you believe is right.

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Speaker 2: On a personal noteletus, how did you sort of come

719
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Speaker 2: to you know, want to do this with your life.

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Speaker 4: You know, a great question. I got to bed every

721
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Speaker 4: night wondering. Not really now, I don't know. I think

722
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Speaker 4: just growing up, I've always this is going to sound

723
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Speaker 4: so maybe immature, but you know, I love animals, I

724
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Speaker 4: love people, and I've always, even at a young age,

725
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Speaker 4: like standing up for what was right in a way

726
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Speaker 4: that I was capable of doing was something that was

727
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Speaker 4: important to me. When I first graduated, I went to

728
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Speaker 4: school at EVM University of Vermont, where there's a very

729
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 4: liberal leaning, you know, community based ideology, very you know, hippie.

730
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Speaker 4: I went and I worked in DC and I thought,

731
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Speaker 4: this is how I'm going to manifest that in my

732
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Speaker 4: life by working in public policy and raising money for

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Speaker 4: people that I think should be elected, and then kind

734
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Speaker 4: of flifting the hood on that and seeing how the

735
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Speaker 4: sausage is made. I said, no, not for me. But then,

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Speaker 4: you know, being friends with Ilana, we had a real

737
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Speaker 4: opportunity to use our strengths and create this thing that

738
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Speaker 4: now I hope makes people feel more engaged and welcome into,

739
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Speaker 4: like the democratic system.

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Speaker 2: And am I wrong that you grew up on one

741
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Speaker 2: of the stops on the Paoli Local.

742
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Speaker 4: What's it Paoli local.

743
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Speaker 2: Did you grow up on the main line?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh Abby, oh, Abby, Oh my god.

746
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Speaker 3: I have to ask her if it's mine. Is so funny.

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Speaker 4: I have friends you have, But I'm from Upstate New York.

748
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Speaker 2: I'm from there, from upstate Yeah, oh that's okay, which

749
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Speaker 2: which you know, it's interesting because Upstate New York correct

750
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Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong is a pretty red area generally, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm from a town called Niskoona, which, strangely enough, G. E,

752
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: R and D is headquartered in So we had a

753
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Speaker 4: very diverse high school in terms of a lot of

754
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Speaker 4: different nationalities, et cetera. But you know, living I live

755
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Speaker 4: in New York City. In New York City is very much

756
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Speaker 4: a coastal elye blue bubble, although we have a very

757
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 4: very low voter turnout. I think in our last election

758
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 4: made to seventeen percent voter turnout. And I always say,

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Speaker 4: if you're in New Yorker and you have an opinion

760
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Speaker 4: but you don't vote, you can't have the opinion because

761
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 4: that's the only way you can show up to I know.

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Speaker 4: It's truly truly insane.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody just assumes it's gonna it's gonna go

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Speaker 2: one way, and so they don't really you know, make

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Speaker 2: their voice heard. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: But then you go on Twitter and everyone's saying something

767
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Speaker 4: about their elected official when there is a primary. There's

768
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Speaker 4: actually a primary June twenty sixth or twenty seventh, I.

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Speaker 2: Know, but I've sent my ballove is on the way.

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Speaker 4: I love it. We love to see it, yes, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean the state itself. My family has a farm

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Speaker 4: in Cambridge, New York, which is the New York Vermont border.

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Speaker 4: And you know, there's different wants and needs of a

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Speaker 4: voter in overall county than there is in you know,

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Speaker 4: a city. So and I think you spit in a

776
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Speaker 4: lot of states across the country that the cities are

777
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Speaker 4: these hubs for more progressive ideologies for whatever reason, and

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Speaker 4: then you go on to the states and there's different realities.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm always I always think it's admirable when and

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Speaker 2: you know, the strange thing about that I always think

781
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 2: about politics is that, you know, in its best incarnation,

782
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: you get into it because you want to affect some

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Speaker 2: kind of positive change, and time and time again we

784
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Speaker 2: see that that doesn't always end up being the case.

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Speaker 2: You know, you people get into it that once they're there,

786
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: it really becomes more about holding onto a gig than

787
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: than about actually, you know, staying talking about something that

788
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Speaker 2: you believe in. So I think that working in a

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Speaker 2: way on the fringes of it not being an elected official,

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Speaker 2: not that I wouldn't vote for you, a Glennis, but

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Speaker 2: that both of you are starting doing this thing, which

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Speaker 2: is you know, outside of the actual uh elected position,

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Speaker 2: I think is a really positive, positive thing and you know,

794
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Speaker 2: can be very powerful. What's what's up next for for

795
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Speaker 2: what is what is the future for for Generator Collective?

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Speaker 2: But what's the what's the what's the game plan?

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Speaker 4: Well, we're always fundraising. That's the one thing about running

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00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 4: a nonprofit is you're always fundraising by how.

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Speaker 2: Do you find how do you find that piece of it?

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Speaker 2: Let me just ask you that is it?

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Speaker 4: How do I find that piece? I flip a lot

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00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 4: of mattresses. Now you ask a lot of high net

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Speaker 4: worth individuals who are committed to the cause for contributions,

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00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 4: family foundations, different foundations. It's a lot of meetings, a

805
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 4: lot of phone calls, a lot of cold calls, cold emails,

806
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 4: and just selling the dream right, you know, what you say,

807
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 4: being on the fringes is uh refreshing, and it's sometimes

808
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: I think Alana Night, we laugh and we we think

809
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 4: we're delusional because we just keep pushing and pushing and pushing,

810
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: because we believe in what we're doing and what we're building,

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Speaker 4: even after so many no's. I imagine it's not on

812
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 4: like being in the entertainment space where you're consistently auditioning

813
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 4: or you know, trying to get roles or projects launched

814
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 4: and you get no, no, no. But you know, we

815
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 4: believe in it, and we also think that for our

816
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 4: audience it's important that we hold no. We don't know.

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00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 4: We don't want to run for office. We were not academics,

818
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 4: but we're not policy wonks or experts. We're here to

819
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 4: help you learn alongside with us. Not we're going to

820
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 4: talk at you about a certain thing, but and that

821
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Speaker 4: to that end, we're currently working on a new web

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Speaker 4: series called microdos Democracy, which, if funded and produced, would

823
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Speaker 4: be a policy focused digital web series. I will live

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Speaker 4: on social media, so on TikTok, on Instagram in short

825
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Speaker 4: size bits, you know, true to the name microdosing these

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Speaker 4: different things that we can all do as citizens to

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Speaker 4: help strengthen our democracy, looking at how our democracy functions,

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Speaker 4: some issues there may be. So that's ideally what's next.

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Speaker 3: We kind of want a microdose for gen Z and

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Speaker 3: millennials the election coming up, rather than have being screened

831
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Speaker 3: at last minute before the election and such a volatile

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00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 3: experience as an American every four years to be screamed at.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, just kind of prepare everyone to do some

834
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Speaker 3: minimals of a engagement to activate. You don't have to

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Speaker 3: sign up and become some full time volunteer, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: education and minimal activation.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. That sounds absolutely great.

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Speaker 2: I think it's amazing what you've done in this partnership.

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Speaker 2: I'm very, very in awe of it. Is there a

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Speaker 2: call to action, a website, a spot where people can

841
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: can can get the information or get involved or donate

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00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 2: or whatever.

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00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, people can follow us on social media. Instagram is

844
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: our main and communication tool. We are at Generator Collective

845
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 4: so that people can find us there. We have a

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00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 4: sign up for emails. We never email people because everyone

847
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 4: gets twenty thousand emails a day, but you can see

848
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 4: any news or information on our Instagram.

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Speaker 2: What else is there on the Instagram? What else are

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Speaker 2: we going to see news information?

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Speaker 4: Are there bits news information? You'll see our past web series.

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00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 4: So we did cheat sheet for the midterms for twenty

853
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 4: twenty two, cheat sheet for the voting booth to see

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Speaker 4: the type of content that we create. A lot of memes,

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Speaker 4: a lot of memes, a lot of TikTok voiceovers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we really feel like, you know, the the

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Speaker 3: side that is like using fear and hate as a

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Speaker 3: tool is actually like winning these culture wars. And what

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Speaker 3: we'd like to see is, you know, human rights politics

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Speaker 3: start to use media and culture more effective, playing to

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Speaker 3: point people to actually organizing around electoral work. So you know,

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Speaker 3: that's what we're is, that's what we're focused on, is

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Speaker 3: changing the culture.

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Speaker 2: I love it changing the culture. Well, Elana Glazer, Glennis Mahart,

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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 2: This has been both extremely fascinating, educational and entertaining and.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, thanks for listening to another episode of six

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