1 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Catty Armstrong. 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: And Jettie and he arms Strong and Strong. 4 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 3: Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show. 5 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: We are on vacation, but boy, do we have some 6 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: good stuff for you. Yes, indeed we do. 7 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 4: And if you want to catch up on your ang 8 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 4: listening during your travels, remember grab the podcast Armstrong and 9 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 4: Getty on demand. You ought to subscribe wherever you like 10 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 4: to get podcasts. Now on with the infotainment and interesting 11 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 4: story in the Wall Street Journal America's new millionaire class 12 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: plumbers and hvac entrepreneurs, and it's well, it's what the 13 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 4: headline would suggest. There's one twist to it. But I'm 14 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: reminded of something that I We've been saying for years. 15 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: The virtually every election comes down to how much the 16 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: government is going to give you, and most of it's phony. 17 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: Sure looks like it right now of other people's tax 18 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 4: moment with both candidates claiming all kinds of things are 19 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 4: going to give you, or a wave is a fee 20 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 4: or whatever, just laying out the gifts and the handouts 21 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 4: and the new programs and the rest of it. When 22 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 4: it's funny that ninety well that's not true anymore. The 23 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: vast majority of us we make a living, we have 24 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 4: a job, and we you know, the government's involved in 25 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: our lives, but more than we want. And it's just 26 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 4: the idea of that, well I'm going to vote for 27 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: who gives me the most is just ugly to me anyway. Yeah, 28 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: it's never been part of my life. And oh that 29 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 4: gets back to you know what I've always tried to 30 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: lay out, and I wish Conservative America was better at this. 31 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 4: And I'm not claiming some sort of mantle as some 32 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 4: sort of eloquent hero, but I've always said I've come 33 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: up with this program where you can feed, clothe, educate, 34 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 4: and medicate ten to ten thousand families and it's not 35 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: going to cost a dime of taxpayer money. It's called 36 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: starting a business and growing it to success. 37 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: Where is that in our political discussions? 38 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 4: That is the engine of prosperity, The engine the government 39 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: handout stuff is crumbs around the edges. 40 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: I hate for this to be true, but I think 41 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: the reason you don't pitch that as an argument is 42 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: because there are enough people that are going to decide 43 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 3: the election. That are that other thing you were talking about, Yeah, 44 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: what are you going to give me without me doing 45 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: anything for it? Really, you start talking about starting a 46 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: business and all that sort of stuff, that's a lot 47 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: of work. 48 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 4: And the politics of envy has been so successful in 49 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 4: convincing people that the successful have done something untoward to 50 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 4: get there. They should be resented for that success. They 51 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 4: have stolen from you. If they have more than you, 52 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: it's because they have stolen from you, which was not 53 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 4: culturally the attitude in the United States up until very 54 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: very recently. 55 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: Oh, I heard a great thing yesterday on that from 56 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: Jonah Goldberg of The Dispatch that he regularly says in 57 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: his speeches, I guess when people talk about why is 58 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: there poverty? He says, that's not the question. There's always 59 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: been poverty. Poverty is the natural state of human beings. Yes, 60 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: why is their wealth is the question? And then you 61 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: get into the discussion of how capitalism creates wealth. Poverty 62 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: is the way it would be for everyone. If you 63 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: didn't have capitalism, we'd all be poor. It's not like 64 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: we'd all have, you know, nice sized homes and cars 65 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: and go on vacations and a comfortable retirement. 66 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's not the natural state of things, right. 67 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: And my only quibbal with Jonah, who's absolutely right, is 68 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: that because of the resentment of quote unquote wealth, you 69 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 4: could break it down to never mind why there's poverty, 70 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: why is there housing, why is their food to eat? 71 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 4: Why is their medical care? How did this happen? And 72 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 4: we've just gotten away from that as a culture again 73 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 4: because the politics of envy works. 74 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: And digression number ten before you get to your main point, Yes, 75 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 3: when I said I've never voted for somebody given me stuff, 76 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: I think that's factually true. But if you are to 77 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: the left, you'd say, yeah, you vote for people who 78 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 3: who want lower taxes, are going to lower taxes, and 79 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: they're giving you money. 80 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 4: As opposed to I'm keeping my own. Letting me keep 81 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: my money is not giving me anything. But yeah, you're 82 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 4: absolutely right. So this article in the Wall Street Journal 83 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 4: is interesting. It is absolutely on the side of folks 84 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: who build, learn a skill, build a business, hire others, 85 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: teach them to do that business and grow it. One 86 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: interesting wrinkle is that it's all about how private equity 87 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: is now recognizing how the HVAC business. The plumbing business 88 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: are good solid electrical contractors too. They're good, solid, profitable businesses. 89 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 4: And so venture capital is moving in and buying up 90 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 4: these businesses, private equity businesses. They hope to profit by 91 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: running larger, more profitable operations, more efficient, etc. 92 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: Well, we endorse a heating and air company, Fantastic One. 93 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: And I remember when we were talking to him last 94 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: year and he was telling us what people can make 95 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 3: to start. Yeah, and he can't find workers and they'll 96 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: train them right right, And there's some concern that. 97 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 4: And you do have to watch for this if you've 98 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: been with a company for a long time. Joe Hvac 99 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 4: who learned the trade, smart guy, gal family entrepreneur, hired people, 100 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 4: grew it, etc. Then they sell to the private equity 101 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 4: company and it becomes a different company. Yeah, standards of 102 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 4: service change, priorities change, that sort of thing. 103 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: What happens with everything, absolutely everything, Oh yeah, not just companies, 104 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: practically everything. You go and buy in a store that 105 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 3: has a name brand, and I'm thinking of a home depot, 106 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: so many different brands of things at Home Depot built 107 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: their reputation years ago on being super quality items that 108 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: aren't crap. Yes, because they're you know, they're run by 109 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:43,559 Speaker 3: what you're just talking about. 110 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 4: The wave of investment is minting a new class of 111 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: millionaires across the country, one that small business owners say 112 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 4: is helping add more shine to working with a tool belt. 113 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: Some of us don't need more shine for that. 114 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: But anyway, you don't need to go to Silicon Valley 115 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 4: to have a successful career. An entrepreneur Real Opportunities, said 116 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 4: this fellow with Detroit based private equity company that is 117 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: doing a lot of investment in service companies. 118 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: You know, I well, never mind. 119 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 4: I was about to go off on a personal tangent, 120 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: but we have a ten tangent limit and we've exceeded it. 121 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: Why does everybody say space these days? 122 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: Quote, everybody in their uncle owns an HVAC business in 123 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: the private equity space. 124 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: Today, he said. Another guy that's hip. 125 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 4: This private equity company, Redwood Services. 126 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: Where are they based? It doesn't matter, Tucson. 127 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: Interesting they've required acquired thirty five companies in the past 128 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: four years, from small to large. In the services trades 129 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: have long offered a solidly hourly wage for workers without 130 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: college degrees, also springboards for those with bigger entrepreneurial ambitions. 131 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: Goodness knows that is true. 132 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 4: Wow, this guy spent five years in prison for selling 133 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 4: meth before he co founded his plumbing business and now 134 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 4: he's an entrepreneur. He was selling meth and now he's 135 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 4: got a legitimate business. But it was in sales. Honestly, 136 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 4: you know, that's funny but true. I absolutely believe in 137 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: second chances for people. 138 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: I'm a one strike you're out guy. 139 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 4: Wow, that's hard anyway, Saudi Arabia is calling, But yeah, 140 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 4: there is an element to that. He grew up in 141 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 4: a hard scrabble place where that was the entrepreneurial opportunity 142 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 4: and something open. 143 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: Well, he learned the trade. 144 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: I don't know if it was in prison or what, 145 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: but he learned the trade and realized, oh, there are 146 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 4: better entrepreneurial opportunities than selling death to people. 147 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: Anyway. Ain't that America for you and me? Land of 148 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: the Free? Anyway? 149 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: I'm amazed by all you small business owners because you 150 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: work so hard and you got everything on the line 151 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: every day. 152 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how you. I really don't know 153 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: how you do it. 154 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: That is why I so resent and I'm so strongly 155 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 4: against this idiotic, nonsensical idea that we're going to raise 156 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 4: business taxes because businesses have to pay their fair share. 157 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: Like everybody who runs a business is crazy wealthy. I 158 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 4: know a lot of small business people and entrepreneurs who 159 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 4: draw what they have to to keep a roof over 160 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: their head, and they pour everything else back into the 161 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 4: business hours they work are insane, right, pardon, pardon my 162 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 4: French folks, but I'll say gun instead of the B 163 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 4: word I heard many years ago. You want to work 164 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 4: for yourself, You're gonna hate the son of a gun. 165 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 4: You're gonna hate your boss because he won't let you 166 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 4: have saturdays off or holidays or going to work you 167 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 4: like you've never worked before. 168 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: You know, stay home when you're sick. He's not gonna 169 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: let you. 170 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, So here's to you, entrepreneurs and small business owners. 171 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 4: May a private equity firm buy you out and I'll 172 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 4: see on the golf. 173 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: Course, I guess you can buy the drinks because you'll 174 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: be richer than me. 175 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 5: Armstrong and. 176 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, the Armstrong and Getty Show. 177 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: So the sentencing of all of those activists and politicians 178 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 4: and journalists in Hong Kong, it just reminds me how 179 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 4: incredibly fragile. A free system is unless it will defend 180 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 4: itself by arms. I mean because Hong Kong was a 181 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 4: robust democracy, very wealthy, very educated, with every interest in 182 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 4: protecting itself, and it couldn't. It was just it was 183 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 4: bullied into submission and quickly. I'm reminded of one of 184 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 4: my favorite memes, partly because it's a little snarky, but 185 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 4: it's also funny. George Washington didn't use his freedom of 186 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: speech to beat the British. He shot them. That's the 187 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: only way to resist aggression. You can't talk a predator 188 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: out of predating. 189 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 3: I have to look into this after the show as 190 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: trying to confirm that Chinese stuff that I read and 191 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: figure out. 192 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: As real or not. 193 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: This does not get the attention it deserves the rising China. 194 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 3: According to the report that I read, and again, whether 195 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: he said it to Biden or not, whether it's just 196 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: stuff being put out by the Chinese, it was a 197 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: It was a lot of language like you're not the 198 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: only nuclear power on earth and just you know, very 199 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: very push pushback. E this means war. 200 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 2: Oh. 201 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: He laid out, actually laid out four red lines for 202 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: China that the US better not cross that sort of thing. 203 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we'll see bra from the perspective of if 204 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: we were attacked by Martians, we would all come together. 205 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: On Earth. 206 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 4: We have been so obsessed with are internal divisions. I 207 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 4: think that's why most Americans are unaware of the threats 208 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 4: from abroad. 209 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Probably so. 210 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 3: Big study that came out today and this was in 211 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: the New York Times, China has now surpassed Europe as 212 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 3: the second all time leading polluter on planet Earth. I'm 213 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: not sure how much I care about the historical polluting 214 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: that's gone on, but the climate change people care about 215 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: it a lot because we polluted more throughout the history 216 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 3: of the world than any of the country, So we 217 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: owe more money than anybody else to try to fix 218 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: the problem, is what they claim. That's only going to 219 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: be true for a few more years. According to this graph, though, 220 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: So China has now passed Europe on this pretty much 221 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: straight up graph because they just started polluting fairly recently, 222 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: because they were all living in huts and eating their 223 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: cats and. 224 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: Stuff like that and not a lot of pollution. 225 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,359 Speaker 3: But now they got all the coal fires and electricity 226 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: and everything going on, They're polluting like crazy. The country 227 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: has now passed Europe is the second largest all time admitter, 228 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: shifting the debate about who pays for global warming. According 229 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 3: to the New York Times, projections show that China may 230 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: catch up with the United States in just a few years. 231 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 3: China's soaring emissions are upending climate politics was the story, 232 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: let me just read a little bit of it. For 233 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 3: many years, wealthy places like the United States and Europe 234 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: have had the biggest historical responsibility for global warming. China's 235 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: astonishing rise is upending that dynamic. Over the past three decades, 236 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 3: China has built more than one thousand coal fired power 237 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 3: plants a thousand as its economy has grown more than 238 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 3: forty fold in thirty years, mostly because of our help, 239 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: thinking that if they got rich enough, they'd be our friends. 240 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: One of the dumbest gambles in the history of the planet. 241 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: Whoops. 242 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: The country has become by far the largest annual emitter 243 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: of greenhouse gases in the world. So they're emphasizing the historical, 244 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: How about emphasize the and on the today chart, it's 245 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 3: not even close. Like China is way up there and 246 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 3: the United States is way down here with other countries 247 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: underneath us. 248 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 4: Right, So if you're trying to build some sort of 249 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 4: framework for who owes the most your Paris climate accord folks, 250 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: I suppose looking at the historical responsibility makes a little 251 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: bit of sense. But for those of us who live 252 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 4: in the real world, who's doing it now is a 253 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: much more relevant question. 254 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: I would say so. 255 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: And according to this chart, it looks like China is 256 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: polluting it about two and a half times what we 257 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: are on a year by year basis at this. 258 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: Point two and a half times. 259 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm supposed to alter my lifestyle and suffer 260 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: the overall GDP consequences for what reason? 261 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: And India is working on it. They'll be on that 262 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: chargument we're on. Yeah, the actual biggest country on Earth. 263 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 4: You go to them and say, hey, can you cut 264 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: back on your fossil fuels a little bit because of 265 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 4: the planet? The answer is yeah, No, Are you kidding? 266 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: We've got four hundred million people starving here and you 267 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: want us to go solar? 268 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 5: No. 269 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 270 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: I've got to hope that a lot of the climate 271 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 4: change nonsense is going to be swept away. 272 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: During Trump's presidency. 273 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about any legitimate claims about the 274 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 4: atmosphere or the environment or whatever. I'm down with that, 275 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 4: it's fine, but again, cut the crap. Cut the crap. 276 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: Go normstrung, you, Getty dot com, pick yourself up. But 277 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: cut the craft T shirt they're selling like hotcakes. 278 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: Speaking of trouble spots around the world that we ignore, 279 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: this happened over the weekend. Haven't heard it anywhere. The 280 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: Pentagon leaked to Axios that the Houthis are now effectively 281 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: in control over the Red Sea, which is where Remember 282 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: they're telling us the numbers all the time, fifteen percent 283 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: or whatever of all world shipping goes through Kuthi rebels 284 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 3: are brandishing increasingly sophisticated weapons, including missiles that can do 285 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: things that are just amazing, said the Pentagon's chief Weapons 286 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: somebody or other to Axios over the weekend. The big 287 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: picture being that the militant group has for years used 288 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: drones and missiles to strangle the waters off of Yemen, 289 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: disrupting international shipping. 290 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: And uh, well, I'll read this quote. 291 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: I'm an engineer and a physicist, and I've been around 292 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: missiles my whole career, said a Pentagon employee to Axios. 293 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: What I've seen of what the Houthis have done in 294 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: the last six months is something I'm just shocked. So 295 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: the rest of the world has just let this ragtag 296 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: group of camel riders take over a big, major lane 297 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: of shipping on planet Earth. 298 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: I believe they have Toyota pickups there. 299 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: But anyway, Yeah, who's they're not building those missiles in Yemen? 300 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: Who's sending them to them? And how soon can we 301 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 4: get the Mummy out of office? I mean he is 302 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 4: useless bat Kerryah Michael, that's in his old vital days. 303 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he isn't that good anymore. He hasn't he hasn't unleashed. 304 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: I had about a kef care with that sort of 305 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: forcefulness in a year's five. 306 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: Quick question for you, what if you happen to miss 307 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 3: this unbelievable radio program. 308 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 4: The answer is easy, friends, just download our podcast, Armstrong 309 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 4: and Getty on demand. It's the podcast version of the 310 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 4: broadcast show, available anytime, any day, every single podcast platform 311 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 4: known demand. 312 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: Download it now Armstrong and Getty on Demand. 313 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 5: Armstrong, The Armstrong and Getty Show. 314 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 4: I love this from Andrew Styles the definitive list of 315 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: winners and losers the twenty twenty four election, and actually, 316 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 4: much as I love Andrew I'm gona quippalle. With his opening, 317 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 4: he says, the election's over Donald Trump and the Republicans, 318 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 4: excuse me, a stunning and decisive victory. I would say 319 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 4: Donald Trump won a stunning, in decisive victory. The Senate 320 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 4: performed very very well, and the House scraped by for 321 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 4: the Republicans. 322 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Mentioned certified government mentioned this earlier. 323 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: I hadn't thought about it until I heard a Democrat 324 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: pointed out, how can you call it a wave if 325 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: you're going to have like a three seat majority in 326 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 3: the House of Representatives. 327 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: That ain't much of a wave. 328 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: I mean, when Obama won, he had like an eighty 329 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: seat majority. 330 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: It's an indy bitty wave. Yeah. 331 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 4: But anyway, winners and losers. Winner diversity, actual diversity. All 332 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 4: sorts of different people voted for Trump and got out 333 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: of their electoral pens that the Democrat had told them 334 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 4: they ought to stay in the Democrats rather, with the 335 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 4: exception of seniors and college educated white women. Huzzah, Trump 336 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 4: improved his margins in every group. Winner Hillary Clinton no 337 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 4: longer the only Democrat to lose to Trump. 338 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 2: Winner. 339 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 4: Mental health professionals about to make a fortune treating the 340 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 4: emotional breakdowns of college educated white women and deranged liberals 341 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 4: and journalists who base their entire personalities on and hating 342 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 4: Trump and his supporters. 343 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: Wow, what a way to live your life. 344 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 4: All the same people who are cutting off friends and 345 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 4: loved ones who care about them deeply as a human 346 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 4: being because they because they've bought I think the most 347 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 4: hyperbolic and ridiculous stuff about politics. Spend Thanksgiving alone and 348 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 4: in the comfort of knowing at least you're not hanging 349 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 4: around with Trump voters. 350 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: You weirdo are evil, That's right. Another winner, Dean Phillips. 351 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 4: Only Democrat with the balls to run against Biden in 352 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: the Democratic primary and say he's too old. 353 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: He was mocked and ridiculed at the time. 354 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 3: Oh Man in the Democratic Party cut his legs out 355 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 3: from underneath him, made it impossible for him to get anywhere. 356 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 4: And he was a one hundred percent right it turns out, 357 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 4: and telling the truth. Yeah, which he's not welcome in politics. Yeah. 358 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 4: Another winner Josh Shapiro. He dodged the bullet of being 359 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 4: a hitch to Kamala Harris's right. He looks smart for 360 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: not taking the job, which he probably didn't want anyway, 361 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 4: we've already forgotten the name of the guy she did pick, 362 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 4: the guy in the camo had who pranced around and 363 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: lied about China. 364 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's his face? Laugh on say or other? How 365 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 3: about his weird five minutes of fame? That'll never I mean, 366 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 3: it'll be a trivia question. 367 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: Please, let's begin laughing at the laughing stock. 368 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos the whole temper tantrum, saying we got to 369 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: be a reporter. 370 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: Of news, not an opinion machine. Tony Hitchcliff and garbage. 371 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: He goes into how that was like the final week 372 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 4: closing argument, look at this monster Trump mounted to nothing, 373 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 4: didn't amount to a pile of garbage in terms of 374 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: electoral effect? 375 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: Right, yes, go ahead that. 376 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: Remember we were counting the days it had, like five 377 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: days of legs. That Puerto Rico joke as being one 378 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: of the lead stories. What a stupid decision from the 379 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 3: media who was hell bent on bringing down Trump. You 380 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: thought that was your best argument. That comedian's joke apparently 381 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 3: didn't work. 382 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 4: Why because they see everything through the lens of identity politics. 383 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 4: So this looked like an enormous faux paw and a 384 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 4: great to bring bet to beat Trump with the rest 385 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 4: of us normal people, including plenty of Democrats and lefties, 386 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 4: as many of whom are listening right now. They're like, yeah, 387 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 4: I can't afford my groceries. I don't care what some 388 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: obscure comedians said about Puerto Rico. Alts the new media 389 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 4: alternative meetia, including ourselves big winners in the election, Sonny 390 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 4: Hostin and the other ladies of the view, for sinking 391 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: the Harris campaign with the what would you do differently 392 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: than Biden? There is not a thing that comes to mind, 393 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 4: Harris said, in a breathtaking display of unpreparedness. 394 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: Is Sonny Hosten a lot for journalists of the year. 395 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 3: Well, as she has come out and said she was 396 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: shocked to that answer. So she was trying to throw 397 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: Kamala a life preserver because she had flubbed the answer 398 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: the day before, and instead of the life preserver she 399 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: threw a cinderblock that took. 400 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: Her under the water. Yes, yeah, well, said winner women. 401 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 4: Trump's victory Russia and a golden era of women's rights 402 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: in spite of the muling and screeching of the college 403 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: educated white women of a certain age. His chief of staff, 404 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 4: Susie Wiles, will be the first woman to hold a job. 405 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 4: It'll soon be safe to play sports again. Women can 406 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 4: say Merry Christmas and be attractive without getting publicly shamed, 407 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 4: et cetera. 408 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 3: When are you're gonna learn, ladies, America does not want 409 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 3: a female president. 410 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: I think that's they'll take away. 411 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 4: Oh my god, that was an attempt, and I emphasize 412 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 4: attempt at humor, ladies, and I apologize for it. 413 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: Scott jameson Grat on the Yeah. 414 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: I heard somebody say the other day, how about try 415 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 3: something different than pantsuits? Two pantsuit ladies who bring in 416 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 3: effeminate men to be their underlings, try something different? 417 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Uh, Margaret thatcher or dresses didn't she? 418 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: I don't remember. I don't care what they wear, wear 419 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: anything at and wear nothing. 420 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: Scott Jennings Great on CNN, Very reasonable, smart conservative, Mark Halpern, 421 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 4: who's independent reporting in sober analysis, much of which you 422 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 4: heard mentioned here on The Armstrong and Getty Show, is 423 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: vastly superior and more informative than the mainstream media is hackish, hyperventilating. 424 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: Another example of new media just whooping the old and 425 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 4: then some other obscure stuff. The PI Israel winner the. 426 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: Pant suit thing is actually interesting and I learned this 427 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 3: from listening to Sarah i Isiger in the Dispatch. I 428 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: hadn't known about level one, level two, level three feminism, 429 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: but like level two feminism or whatever, maybe one was 430 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 3: the pants suit. It's like, see, we can be just 431 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: like men. We've got our version of suits and here 432 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: we are in the workplace. And then like the next 433 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 3: level of feminism, No, I can dress like kind of hot, 434 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 3: like a woman likes two sometimes in a skirt and 435 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 3: high heels, and also be effective. And I think that 436 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 3: would be helpful to get away from that old level 437 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 3: of pants suit thingy. I think there is sort of 438 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 3: a subliminal thing going on there. 439 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to free you by demanding you adhere 440 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: to our stereotypes and our orders. You will work outside 441 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: the home. You will turn your nose up at raising 442 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: children and being the leader of the family. You will 443 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 4: make money for a corporation, and you will wear pants 444 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 4: in the name of freedom, right right, Yeah. Level threes 445 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: where whatever you want, do whatever you want. 446 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: And I tell you what that's. 447 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: And I don't know if there's a name for guys 448 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 4: like I'll just speak for myself, who are like women 449 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 4: can do whatever they want. 450 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: And achieve whatever they want. 451 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: And who the hell am I to tell them that 452 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 4: it's more satisfying to make another half of a percent 453 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: for your corporation as opposed to raising children and being 454 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 4: the actual functional chief operating officer as a family. 455 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: You do what you want. I trust you to make 456 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 2: the decision. 457 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 4: I don't believe in browbeating people to conformed to some 458 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 4: sort of, you know, prefab image of what. 459 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: They ought to be. 460 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 4: I find it disgusting no matter what you know label 461 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: it puts on itself. We're going over the winners and 462 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 4: losers from the recent election. Loser number one, Come on, 463 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 4: Joe Biden. The experts told us sleepy Joe would be 464 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 4: the most consequential president since FDR. When he dropped out 465 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 4: in July, those same experts compared Biden to George Washington, 466 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 4: praising his selfless act as political courage. 467 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: He will not be remembered that way now. 468 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: In reality, Biden's decision to run for reelection rights Andrew 469 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 4: Styles will be remembered as one of the most reckless 470 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 4: acts of political hubris and American history. His selection of 471 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris as a running mate in twenty twenty, his 472 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: decision to immediately endorse her, also regarded as monumental blunders. 473 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 4: This is the legacy Biden deserves. 474 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: They met Trump and Biden met for two hours yesterday. 475 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 3: I find that pretty interesting alone. What were they talking about? 476 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: Trump says, they talked a lot about you and talked 477 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: a lot about Israel. But two hours, that's a pretty 478 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 3: serious conversation. 479 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, I have no doubt. I'm glad 480 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: to hear it. Honestly. 481 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: Another loser, of course, Tim Walltz oh right, the camo 482 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 4: hat guy who prod around, pranced around on stage, and 483 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 4: lied constantly about China and other weird things. He was 484 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 4: supposed to help the Hair's campaign appeal to men. He 485 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 4: pretended to go pheasant hunting, cackled with the ladies of 486 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 4: the U, and played video games with AOC. He said 487 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 4: Republicans were weird. Trump won mail voters by thirteen. 488 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 3: Points, right, And obviously, if you're going to pick somebody 489 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 3: out of the whole crowd that was weird. 490 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: He was almost certainly the weirdest. And I'm a knucklehead 491 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: at times. 492 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 4: Another losers, other losers, the Obamas, and you know, he 493 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: talked about various things, but they tried to shame black 494 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 4: men into voting for Kamala, scolding the brothers for hating women. 495 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: Oh, go away, please go away. 496 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 4: Other losers Alex Soros, who's the son of billionaire George 497 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 4: Soros who funneled hundreds of million dollars of dollars into 498 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 4: the Democrats in twenty twenty four, hanging out with him 499 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 4: at elite conferences, inviting them to his swanky Manhattan pad, 500 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 4: et cetera. And some other people you've never heard of. 501 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 4: The mainstream media journalists are the worst. They scolded the 502 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 4: American people for feeling stressed about the economy and thinking, 503 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 4: but Biden was too old to run for reelection. They 504 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 4: still don't understand why no one trusts them or takes 505 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 4: them seriously. They try to put their thumbs on the 506 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 4: scale for Harris, but it made no difference due to 507 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 4: their rapidly diminishing credibility and relevance. 508 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 2: They will learn nothing and carry on into the void. 509 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 3: Speaking of spending money, did you see that Kamala Harris's 510 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: campaign gave Al Sharpton a half a million dollars five 511 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars they gave to Kamala before he did 512 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 3: the glowing interview with her. Wow, what kind of shakedown 513 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 3: is that? And I can't believe that they play that 514 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: game with Al freaking Sharpton. You gave him a half 515 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: a million so he do a softball interview with you. 516 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, more losers the Lincoln Project go away, shameless griff. 517 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 4: There's criminals, terrorists in Iran. Not even Ben Rhodes can 518 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 4: save you. 519 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: Now, Losers. 520 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: That Al Sharpton thing pisses me off because that interview 521 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 3: got a fair amount of play in mainstream media because 522 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: she was addressing, you know, the black community and all 523 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. He did wouldn't do the interview 524 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 3: unless he got a half a million dollars. 525 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 526 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: Can we have some sort of giant statement from you know, 527 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 4: the black folks in America, fabulous loyal Americans who disavowed 528 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 4: the very concept of Al Sharpton being a spokesperson for anybody. 529 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 5: Arm Strong, the Armstrong and Getty Show. 530 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 4: This is interesting and not terribly shocking. Well, I guess 531 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 4: when you get down to the the granular details, it 532 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 4: is fairly shocking. But Americans are more reliant than ever 533 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: on government aid. An aging population, economic distress raised dependence 534 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: on federal and state support, and it matters a hell 535 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 4: of a lot for our elections. As you might guess, 536 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 4: Wall Street Journal looking into a major study. This is 537 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 4: little graphics heavy, but I can interpret it for you. 538 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: They're talking about the share of personal income from government assistance. 539 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 4: How in how many counties is it twenty five percent 540 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 4: or more? In nineteen seventy, government safety Net money accounted 541 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 4: for significant income. That's more than twenty five percent. Twenty 542 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 4: five percent or more in fewer than one percent of 543 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: America's counties. 544 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: So say that again. In one year in nineteen seventy, 545 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: it was less than one percent. Okay, okay. 546 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 4: In two thousand it went from less than one percent 547 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 4: to roughly ten percent. That's the year twenty ten percent, 548 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 4: which a tenfold increase is not minor. In the year 549 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, fifty three percent, more than half of 550 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 4: US counties drew at least a quarter of their income 551 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 4: from government eight. 552 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: So this is we were talking about this last week, 553 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: and now that it's the average person in the bottom quintile. 554 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: I know this is a lot of complicated talking, but 555 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: the bottom twenty percent of income earners in America get 556 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: on average sixty eight thousand dollars per household of transfer payments, 557 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: and that's left out of every argument about we have 558 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 3: the highest inequality of any nation. 559 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: In the world. 560 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: They never include this stuff and what you just talked 561 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 3: about there, that's never included in these conversations from Bernie 562 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: Sanders or probably Tim Walls tonight in the debate. People 563 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: live in paycheck to paycheck. Well, more people are getting 564 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 3: the handouts from the government than ever before by a lot. 565 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 3: And as we've discussed with Craig the healthcare guru, socialism 566 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 3: is not a light switch. It's a a fungus oh 567 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: that spreads across a country, and it's programmed benefits and yeah, yeah, sure. 568 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: It starts hating across there's just no stopping it. Yeah. 569 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 4: So the big reasons for this dramatic growth are interesting. 570 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 4: Some of them I think most conservatives would reject out 571 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 4: of hand, But it gets a little complicated when you 572 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 4: dig into it. There are much larger share of Americans 573 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 4: who are seniors. Period, we're living longer and we've aged 574 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 4: as a population, we're not having kids anymore. And healthcare 575 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 4: raw sorry, healthcare costs have risen fairly dramatically as they've 576 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: gotten more fantastic. The technology we have at our disposal 577 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 4: to keep ourselves healthy and alive is truly awe inspiring. 578 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: But it costs. 579 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And as my doctor said last week, what exactly 580 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: is the point? Sometimes he wanted, as we just get 581 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 3: you know, our brains don't work, our bodies don't work, 582 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: but we hang around longer at a great expense. 583 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 4: Right, Well, it could be the money is the point 584 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 4: in at least some situations, although it's I understand it's 585 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 4: an odd conundrum that a person could sit around rubbing 586 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 4: their chin thinking about for a long time. You're not 587 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 4: going to turn down medical advances because it's every advance 588 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: is an incremental step. It can lead toward other advances 589 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: or cures or what have you. But at the same time, 590 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 4: you and your doctor are quite right, Hey, good news, 591 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 4: we can keep alzheimer suffering Granny alive for one more year. 592 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 4: We can stave off for cancer with this new gene therapy. 593 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. What are we doing here? Yeah, anyway 594 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 4: to get back to the major thread of the thing, 595 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 4: ERNI here blah blah. At the same time, many communities, 596 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 4: so it's the aging and the development of metaical technology. 597 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: Number one. 598 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 4: At the same time, any communities have suffered from economic 599 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 4: client because of the challenges, including the loss of manufacturing, 600 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 4: leaving government money is the larger share of people's income 601 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 4: in such places. 602 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: You know, I could bore you to death. 603 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 4: I won't because I do this for a living and 604 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 4: kind of enjoy getting the paycheck. But one of the 605 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 4: big debates in conservative circles these days is the question 606 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 4: of the reagan Esque free trade global economy conservatives versus 607 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 4: what's being called the new conservatism or whatever you want 608 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 4: to call it. And everybody's always government conservatism. Some people 609 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 4: call it, yeah, industrial planning, you know. Sometimes people even 610 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 4: call it central planning what have you, and are bellowing 611 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 4: at each other about it, as if the solutions and 612 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 4: the questions and answers are very simple. 613 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: They're not at all. They're trillions of dollars at stake. 614 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 4: So I understand why the people making lots and lots 615 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 4: of money want to keep that money flowing. They don't 616 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 4: care how much unemployment there is in rural Pennsylvania, for instance. 617 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 4: At the same time, oh oh, and the other point 618 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: I was going to make on the side of the 619 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 4: new Conservatives back in Reagan's day, we didn't have a 620 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 4: situation where our chief global adversary is our one of 621 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 4: our chief trading partners, technology partners, and practically indispensable to 622 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 4: the world economy. So if you are pitching free global 623 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 4: trade of a reaganesque sort, you are pitching continued interaction 624 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 4: slash dependence with China, which is just a bad idea. 625 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 4: Times have changed, the arguments have to change too, So 626 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 4: I have sympathy with both sides, but it is not simple. 627 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 4: So for its analysis of government spending, EIG, which is 628 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 4: the folks doing the analysis, used a government definition of 629 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 4: income that includes spending on programs that Americans pay into, 630 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 4: such as Medicare and Social Security. Another major government health program, Medicaid, 631 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 4: is counted. The analysis also includes unemployment insurance, food stamps, 632 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 4: the Earned Income Tax Credit, veterans benefits, pell grants, COVID 633 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 4: era payments, and other income supports. States helped pay for 634 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 4: some of these programs, like Medicaid, but the federal government 635 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 4: covers roughly seventy percent of the cost, and it doesn't 636 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 4: include other ways government spending floods into corners of America, 637 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 4: such as farm subsidies or military bases. So this spending 638 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 4: accounts for big and growing share of not only the 639 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 4: income of the nation but also our national debt. We 640 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 4: are addicted to government spending slash social programs as a country. 641 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: There's no weaning off that either. I don't believe you 642 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 3: can go backwards, so I don't think it's possible, but 643 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: you do have. 644 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 4: To be honest about the dollars and cents coming and going, 645 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 4: and we're headed for a cliff. So we went from 646 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 4: one percent nineteen seventy to over half now correct. 647 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. 648 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: Not very many people can tell you that Armstrong and 649 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: Getty