WEBVTT - Ep. 33: Playing Tough Football | Jags A.M. Podcast 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:20.000 I'm gonna do everything I can to be out there. 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.759 You know. You know, I feel I feel a lot 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:25.520 better today than I would have thought. So I like 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:27.680 him progressing, and you know, I'm gonna do everything I 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:29.080 can to be out there on Thursday. 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:32.519 So you haven't heard it from the man himself. I'm 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:34.680 kind of Annie Stevens, brand Sex and John Oser here 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.280 for Jags am as we get ready for Thursday night football. 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:39.600 And Trevor Lawrence was about as candidate as he could be. 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:41.640 He said he really wants to play this week. He's 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.120 gonna do everything he can to be out there. Brian, 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:45.840 where do we think he's at with it? He seems 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.080 optimistic about it, But it's a short week. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:49.920 I still think it's a going toss. I mean, I 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:53.639 still think there's a lot of people that read into that, oh, 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:55.920 he's playing for sure. I don't think it's for sure. 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.480 I think if its for sure, I think he's for sure. 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.040 I think he's gonn to play. I think he's gonna 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:03.320 get through it. I think they're going to try to 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.280 protect him with play calling and you know, basically get 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:08.680 down if there's any danger. 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.240 But I think he's playing. But I agree with you. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.880 I'm not ninety nine percent. I put it fifty one percent. 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:16.920 But the key word is, I think right, I think 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:18.440 we're all kind of what do we think? What do 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.240 we guess? What is it going to be? We don't know. 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:24.960 I think it legitimately comes down John too. You know 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:26.360 tomorrow he's warm up. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.120 It might be a legitimate game time decision. I'm with you, guys. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.119 So our first big thing, of course, is about Trevor. 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.680 So it's yes, no, maybe, So we'll have to find out. Obviously, 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.680 Trevor talked. He said he's gonna do everything he can 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:38.800 to get out there, but also we talked a little 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.320 bit about what it's like to play hurt and the 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.800 things you need to think about going forward. 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.520 Of course, this game is about toughness and it's about 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:52.200 at times playing through injuries. I think there's a I 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.520 mean it's but it's also you got to be smart 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.400 and you know the position that we're in and because 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.200 there's there's guys every week that have injuries and might 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.440 sit out, it might not, and you know they're looking 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.640 for the long haul of not just for themselves but 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:05.720 also for the team because you want you want your 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.840 guys to be healthy in crunch time this season, down 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.239 the stretch, you know. So, like I said, there's there's 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:12.600 a lot of questions that you have to answer. There's 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.880 not a right answer to any of them. I think 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.720 some guys are more conservative when it comes to injuries 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.480 and some guys are. Some guys play through more and 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.280 some guys don't. So it depends who you are, what 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.240 you're comfortable with. The biggest thing is you got to 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.959 feel confident going on that field, whether you decide to 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.280 play or not. You got to feel comfortable with what 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:30.960 you're doing and confident. You've got to go play because 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:33.320 you can't play this game hesitating at all. So I 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.959 think that's that's a question that obviously everyone asks themselves 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:36.919 when they're dealing with anything. 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.560 John Trevor certainly has that personality type. He wants to 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.760 play through something if he can play through it. But 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.560 there's also the fact that I think it's a little 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:46.360 more serious injury might be more of a concern, but 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.480 when it's gutting through it. He also talked about having 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.680 that confidence right, you need to be confident when you're 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:52.600 out there and he's playing with a bracelet practice the 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:54.440 other day, he said he wasn't quite sure about it. 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.400 How much of it will be him being comfortable with 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.800 the brace and with his limitations. 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:02.799 Well, I think it'll be ninety percent how he feels 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:07.680 on Thursday, and he was asked about this, and he 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.880 has to be honest with himself. It's a different thing 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.560 when a quarterback doesn't play compared to another position. It's 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.640 a vastly different thing. These guys take pride in it. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.160 You know, it's your record as a starter, Brian, and 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:22.359 how many starts you have. 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:24.080 He's never missed. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:25.880 Yeah, and he's never missed. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.160 He's also really never played through anything like this, so 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.200 there is uncertainty. It's easy to say, well, he should 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.840 tough it out. Well, he's never done it, so he's 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.640 not quite sure what tough it out means versus what 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:38.560 injury risk is. 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:40.240 That's what he'll lean on the trainers for. 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.960 Again, I think he gives it a go, and I'm 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:45.920 fine with him giving it a go as long as 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.920 they don't think that that risks him getting more injured. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:50.560 Let me present it this way. If it was a 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:54.360 December game in the division for the division title, would 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.040 he play, well? Yeah, absolutely, well, then he plays, But 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.680 the vacuum here is is it's the third game in 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:04.600 twelve days against a non conference, non division opponent. You know, 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:06.760 do we risk it? There's still more games on the 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.440 other side. Yeah, but you're not going fifteen to two. 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.880 I don't buy that argument. I think you have to 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.400 have a big picture look. And I can go back 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.839 to ninety seven with Mark Brunell who played through the 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:19.880 ACL and he was never the same. And I get 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.760 it different injury, but you have to have a long 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.360 term approach with your quarterback, which is what I think 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:26.560 need to be mixed in here. 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.400 And we have to remember there are injuries elsewhere on 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.360 this team as well, which could affect them for sure. 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.440 Big Easy is our second big thing of the day 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.600 because it's only a Big Easy. But it's not going 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.240 to be easy because it's hard to play in the 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.039 Supernome and it's hard to play on Thursday night football Done. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:42.800 Talked a little bit about that earlier this week. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:49.320 You know, we can't control the schedule, obviously, but I 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:53.400 honestly don't think our team really cares that much about 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:59.160 when and where and who we play. I mean, it's yes, 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.160 you're guaranteed a home game after you know, after the 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.960 London trip and all of that, which is great, but 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.080 after that, I mean, yeah, you just you go to 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:13.960 the next one. And I honestly believe that our players 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.080 really don't pay much attention to that, you know, nor 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.479 do we. I mean, it's it's uh, the schedule comes 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:24.200 out in May and we see it, and you know, 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:25.240 we're excited for it. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.440 So Doug's never wants to make excuses when it comes 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.320 to the schedule, certainly. And the thing about Thursday football 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.279 affects both teams the same. They both in a short week, 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:35.880 and the Saints didn't played well last week, so. 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:36.720 It's hurt them too. 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.200 You know, there are some players in this league that 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.560 are very vocal about not liking the Thursday night game. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:44.720 There are none of the rest of them just don't 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.200 like it, right right, There are none of those guys 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.840 in this locker room, because you know, I was in 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.160 there yesterday as you guys probably were, and they all 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:52.680 just have the mental attitude. We just got to go 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.720 power through it. The flip side is now we get 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.520 the mini by you get the weekend off and more 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.760 time to get ready for the Steelers. I don't think 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.360 anybody would choose it except they love the check. It 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.080 comes with a big check. It's a billion dollar deal, 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.560 so they're not going to see this thing go away. 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.840 But I don't get the sense, you know. I can 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.280 think of a couple of players in particular in different 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.599 markets where they really hate the Thursday night game and 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.919 every time their team has to play, they let everybody 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.320 know how much they don't like it. That hasn't been 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.120 the case this week. Talking to Evan ingram In particularly goes, 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.520 we just can't change it, Let's go play. 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.160 I think that's an interesting approach because they're never gonna 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.680 change it, and the amount that people complain about it. 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.920 Yes, it sucks, but it's not going anywhere. 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.360 Well, there's a couple of different factors here too. It's 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:37.920 really not the same for both teams. It's not the 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.760 same for the road team at all. It's a really 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.120 difficult situation for the road team compared to the home 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:44.640 team because of the day and the travel. 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.600 And then for the Jaguars this week there is. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.920 A little bit of another factor. You're already kind of 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.960 beat up, and then you're going to plan on that turf, 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.679 which a couple players told me yesterday at Turf's tough. 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.680 I mean, it's hard on everybody they have to deal 0:06:58.720 --> 0:06:59.040 with it. 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.760 I still think the Jaguars win, but I think this 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.560 is obvious, say logistically at a as tough as tests 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.760 as you're gonna face when you factor in London on 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:09.520 the front end. 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:10.360 It is. 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.600 And our final big thing today is gonna be think 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.440 takeaways because as we know, these Sursday night games, they 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.520 can get pretty ugly, pretty sloppy. So it's gonna be 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.960 defensive battle. And the defense has been the calling card 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.000 of this team. So for the season, they've made a 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.640 lot of takeaways so far and they're hoping to continue 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:25.480 that going forward. 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.840 I think, uh, it really just comes down to taking 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.240 advantage of your opportunity. We've been able to touch the 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.320 ball and guys that coming down with it. You know, 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.400 Josh had a strip sack wherever, you get a couple 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.920 of fumbles, So it's just being able to, you know, 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.240 take advantage of opportunities. We always talk about the numbers 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.200 favor us, so if we get more guys around the ball, 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.560 we have opportunity to take the ball away. So that's 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.880 what we try to do and we're doing a decent 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:52.520 job right now. 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:55.720 John dos this matchup look like one of those like 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.560 defensive kind of like low scoring situations to you or 0:07:58.560 --> 0:07:59.680 how do you think it might play out? 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.960 You know it does, but I also didn't doing this 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:04.080 long enough as soon. 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.760 As I say that it's going to be one, but 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.960 it does. That's why both teams are playing right now. 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:15.800 And to me, if you're if this defense is what 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:17.920 I'm starting to think it is, which is a turnover 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.480 forcing defense that forces other teams to do things they 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.280 don't want to do, then I think you can win 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:23.640 this game. 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.240 I think you can win this game doing that. And 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:27.680 this is one where. 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.200 I think everybody's sort of come around now Brian to 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.839 talking about how good this defense is and how much 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:34.920 they force turnovers. 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.880 Well, this is sort of okay, Well we've said you're that, 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:39.840 go do it, Go do it. 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:43.240 Because the circumstances are tricky. 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.520 The X factor I think is Tyson Campbell be an out. 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:46.520 I don't like that at all. No. 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.440 Look, two weeks ago the Saints scored thirty four points 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.280 and blank the New England Patriots shut them out. That 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.600 doesn't happen to Bill Belichick, even on lesser talented teams 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.240 very often, so they can put points up because they've 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.920 got big receivers who can run. Chrys A Lovey can 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.320 get down the field. And without Monterrek Brown, you know, 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.320 the matchup with Michael Thomas is not it's not comforting. 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.480 Michael Pittman, who I think is an average guy. Uh, 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.400 you know, went for more than a hundred and mostly 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.840 because monterk wasn't ready. So there are some situations there. 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:16.679 But Derek Carr will turn the ball over. He'll give 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:18.959 it to you. And if this defense is going to 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.360 be opportunistic, this is a great night. You get a 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.360 takeaway or two, you win this ball game. 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:25.120 And I think if they do it early as well, 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:26.959 because Derek Carr has been having some issues with the 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.800 play calling over there. They're getting in some scuffles and whatnot, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.520 So I think if we can get them in fighting early, 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.040 that might be very helpful. Stay with the Sierra on Jagsam. 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:35.960 We're going to do a little list. 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:46.520 Or that after the break, this this for that, we're back, 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:47.720 what's this or that? 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:48.200 This week? 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.360 I'm gon stay with the theme that I have. All Right, 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.600 it's a short week, there's not that many different storylines, 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.520 but let me let me present it a different way. 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.240 Press Taylor said the other day that it was going 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.080 to be a n eating of the minds. Right, it 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.000 would be the quarterbacks, the coach, the trainer, and they 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.920 would get together and decide. So my question is is 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:11.280 it Trevor's call or is it the coach's call? At 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.600 this point in his career, third season, has he earned 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:16.520 the right to make that call himself or do you 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.560 protect the quarterback? And of course we're assuming that it 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.160 isn't completely right. If it's completely right, then he plays 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.079 no doubt. But whose call is it? 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.560 I think it might be one of those injuries that 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.200 isn't so severe that they need to override him. I 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.520 think it might be if he wants to play, they'll 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:36.160 let him play. That's my intuition to how they've been 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:36.840 speaking on it. 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:38.480 Pat Mahomes got to make the call to go back 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.280 into the game in Kansas City in January because he's 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.800 Pat Mahomes and he's won a Super Bowl and now 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.760 he's won two. So it's just an interesting question because 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.280 at another point in his career, it's going to be 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.680 a more serious injury or a hamstring or something that 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.439 keeps him out right, and then it'll be about him 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.240 coming back. Has he earned the right to make that call. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.400 I think Mahomes is a good example because Trevor's on 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.400 the sidelines watching that last year, and there is a 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.360 point with NFL quarterbacks where you need to be able to. 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:04.480 Do some version of that. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.520 I'm not saying if he doesn't do it that he 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.480 doesn't have Pat Mahomes his guts, because some of it's 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:14.719 gonna be the trainer saying okay, or the trains and 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.960 doctors saying, okay, we're fine with you making this decision 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.120 medical right now. It's up to you. But to me, 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.040 if it gets to that point, he plays, I think 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:25.800 so if he's. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.560 Okay to play, he's gonna play, and I think he 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:28.640 plays all right. 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:30.360 John winning that for this. 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:33.800 Or this or that I believe was I think it 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.960 was more important Traves Tan or Josh Allen and uh, 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:38.560 you know it's. 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:41.760 It's kind of a silly question because they're both important. 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.840 But I think tonight, because on on Thursday night, because 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:50.839 I'm not expecting huge points, I think Josh Allen and 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:55.120 collectively the defense are more important because this team needs 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.920 I think Josh to have one of those big play 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.959 Josh Allen moments in the first half set a tone. 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.640 What better start for this team than if he could 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:08.600 sack fumble by the quarterback, get some sort of ball 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.240 bouncing into the air that the Jaguars get, and then 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:12.880 all of a sudden they're on the sidelines found like, 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.280 oh okay, this is how this is our formut this 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:17.840 is how they say we could do it. We could 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:19.920 do it. So I think he can have more impact 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:21.560 unless Travis briks up. 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:22.040 A nine yard run. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.960 Yeah, well, I'll go with Alan because I think on offense, 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:30.400 if Travis Etn is bottled up, you know, there are 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.440 more options right on the defensive side. Right now, the 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.640 only pass rusher that they really have in terms of 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:40.199 getting to the quarterback is Josh. If Etn is bottled up, 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.960 you know, here comes Angram, here comes Christian Kirk, Calvin 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.520 Ridley can get off. But on the defensive side, it 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.200 still all comes down to number forty one making that play. 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.640 Maybe Trayvon becomes that guy, but we haven't seen that yet. 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:54.560 So I say, Alan, I'm gonna make a little prediction. 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:02.600 You're exactly right. I think third day night prime time. Uh, 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.240 some player aside from Josh makes that play. 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.640 We're talking about and it's sitting on the desk after 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.640 the game. Yeah, not y his. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.319 The the game, if you will. 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.160 The hosts. That happens on those nights where all of 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:18.480 a sudden, some guy's a starr. 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.440 That you didn't expect. Maybe Smooter Smooter. 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.960 I go back, smooth Smooter friends with Smitter. 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.440 No, nobody's nickname basis we love it. 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.280 My this or that this week is if you could 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:34.000 choose or bigger win to you, would it be being 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.720 shorthanded finding a way to get a win on Thursday night? 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:37.200 Footballer? 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:39.000 Is the bigger win next week when you go to 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:40.960 the Steelers and you can have that win going into 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:41.400 the buy. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:44.200 Well. 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:47.839 I always struggle with these because the win's a win, 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:49.160 and they all count the same. 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:53.960 In the NFL, can count a little bit more. Yeah, 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:57.640 I would say this is more impressive because you're gonna 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.280 have ten days of prayer for the Steelers. 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.239 I don't I don't know that the Steelers. 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.720 They're probably about the same team right now, the Steelers 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:09.640 of inconsistent, the Saints of inconsistent. So I would say circumstantially, 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:15.680 London Colts four days going over there on the road 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.680 on Thursday night and winning all those elements say you'll lose. 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.640 I think ten days before the Steelers says you win. 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:24.040 So I'd say. 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.640 Tonight would be more impressive. 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.080 I think fans and hate the Steelers historically would life 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:29.720 the other one better. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.280 I always want to beat the Steelers always, and I 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.160 can remember there being some games, and one ninety eight 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.560 in particular, where the Jaguars were the better team and 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.840 Mark Brunel throw two pick sixes to Dwayne Washington at 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:41.680 the old three Rivers. 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:41.960 No. 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.640 No, always beating the Steelers. Plus it's an AFC. 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.240 Team, two tough road environments. So I'll take two wins, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:48.760 but we'll see what we end up getting out of that. 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.200 Stay with us. We're gonna come right back after the 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.320 break and go over a little bit of he will, 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.080 he won't, he might, And me think we'll show out 0:14:55.080 --> 0:15:04.600 in this game on Thursday. Looking now at he will, 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.880 he won't. He might present it to us by Sebeth 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:08.880 as we're looking at players at whirling at that might 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.440 play a big role on Thursday. Brian, you picked Evan 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:11.800 this week. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:13.560 I'll go with Evan. I think Evan will be that 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:17.560 guy on on Thursday night in New Orleans. He will 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.360 have a really big game. You mentioned earlier that at 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.040 the quarterback, and we could try to make it easy 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.520 on him. That's seventeen. You know, he is that guy 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.240 who makes tough catches. He's always open, He'll be at 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.360 the chains. So I say he will become the go 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.520 to guy. He'll have the big night. He won't make 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.560 that you know, dramatic one handed catch every once in 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:36.240 a while, but when he. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:40.560 Does everyone last week well, and I was talking. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.200 To him about that. I said, when I look when 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:43.720 you looked at your hand, I wonder did you break 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.800 it because you wouldn't stop looking at it. He goes, 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.440 I was just amazed at it, and we were too. 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.280 I don't know that he'll have that kind of a catch, 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:53.080 but this might be a two touchdown game for him. 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.200 It might be that that game like he had in 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.440 in Nashville last year, when we have eleven catches, sixteen 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.960 targets and one hundred and sixty yards and two touchdowns. 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.160 I just see him becoming that guy that the quarterback 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.360 wants to get the ball to as quickly as possible. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.240 I think the Saints are going to stack the line 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:14.480 of scrimmage. They're big bodies inside there's not that Josh 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.000 Allen kind of pass rusher. You know, Cam Jordan's an 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.160 aging player. I think they'll be very effective against the run, 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.080 and I think it's going to open things up for somebody. 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:23.160 And I think that somebody's Ingram. 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.240 Yeah, I think you haven't has two touchdowns. I think 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.720 they win the game, I say comfortably, but I think 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.840 they'll win the game. So good one. That's one I 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:35.080 was gonna do. And then Ky told me because I 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.440 think Evan everything broke up yesterday. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.080 I was talking to him and he said he he 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.640 couldn't believe how good he felt going into a Thursday game, 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:45.280 by the way, and he said there's been games on 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:49.320 Thursday where he felt like, you know, walking out the 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.240 previous Sunday. He wasn't gonna make the game much different 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:52.560 this week. 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:53.920 So he's the guy that told me in the locker 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:58.000 room yesterday, why even waste a minute thinking about what 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.720 could be playing on Sunday. Instead, We've got to go play, 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:02.520 so we might as well have a good attitude about it. 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:07.160 See I'm the opposite, I believe. 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:11.119 Who's watching his broad I went with Trayvon Walker. 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:16.360 He will play well because he always plays well. He's 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.720 played well every game so far this year, and there's 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.159 no reason to think what they asked him to do 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.000 he's gonna come off of that. He might be the 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.480 most consistently good player in the defense right now outside 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:31.080 of Tyson Campbell. And it includes Josh Allen who has 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.919 big plays, but Trayvon's playing really well. He won't have 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:36.480 a big sack night because I don't think he's gonna 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.720 be a big sack guy in his career. So I'm 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.040 gonna stop framing my conversation about Trayvon like that. He 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.720 might be the most underappreciated, over criticized guy on this 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:46.440 team right now. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:48.800 I get the whole draft thing. 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:49.919 To me. 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:52.440