1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: Yea from. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 2: You don't want to ask your question. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Let's just keep it real straight shot with. 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 3: No Chase it. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna get a little bit rough. I'm here for it. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Those who really believe in the American process, all of 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: us Street Shot No Chase with your Girls had to 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: figure out on the Black Effect podcast Network network. 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: So that's knowing your role in your characteristics, your personality 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: is really important because that dictates where you can be successful, 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: where you can actually contribute. And so you gotta know 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: that mm hmm, and that's okay with it and be 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: okay with it. Michelle could do great at so many 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: other things that I'm just I'm not. 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to have the tolerance and patience for it. 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: My level of expectations are probably gonna be way higher. 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: On saying aren't gonna be way higher. That's not probably 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: don't need to on this, You'll be way hired. 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: There are some things I might be loose about, like 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: when Marcelle with the podcast you ready to podcast, but 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: I tell him, I said, hey, stay on me because 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: I need to be dah dah dad. You know, the 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: job still get done, you know, But there's still some 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: things where I'm just like when it comes to like 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: some stuff. No, marcell No, No, Like, what do you mean? 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: I was on Michelle ass like when I tap in, 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: But you need me to tap in because I'm gonna 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: be okay, that sound good. How many doors you say? 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 3: Though? 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,639 Speaker 1: Again, well I went and did okay, and that would't 31 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: translate to what the doors though, I'm trying to get 32 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: back to the. 33 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: Doors of the day. 34 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, go to go through person with Michelle. Yeah, because 35 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: you want to preserve the relationship, because I wan't hear 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: nothing about No, she emailed it and she was snitching. 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: You know, Jay was stitching on Michelle plenty times. You 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: know Michelle is over here being an ab me in 39 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: todays work. 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: Is that type of stuff to make Canada's unlovable. So 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: I know what it's like to be an unlovable candidate. 42 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: Oh no, she's a lovable candid. No, she's a great candid. Guys, 43 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: don't know you've had something that you know you ain't 44 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: that at all. No, that's not it. No, I'm not 45 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: gonna let you. I pick on you, but I'm not 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: gonna let I'm not gonna let that. No, Michelle is 47 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: actually a great candidate. I'm saying for me though, because 48 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: my personal expectation for Michelle personally, you know what I mean, 49 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold her real high because you run around 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: saying you my damn sister. 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: So anybody that listen, yes, yeah. 52 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: You don't get to just what you mean. Yes, you 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So let's soften the blow and 54 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: let's have somebody in the middle and putting it in 55 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Jada in the middle and let her go, you know, 56 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: or like I do you mar that like if I 57 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: have you reached out somebody like no, just talk to 58 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: myself about This's a reason why, right, I don't want 59 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: to go out, you know, I want to keep somebody motivate, 60 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: you know, people expect you to be and then there's 61 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: some people like sending the turn and we could never 62 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: have a goal between between us. I would never allow 63 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: a goal between between I got to deal with her 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: head up because the goal between gonna be so nervous 65 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: to talk to her about. I'm the only one to 66 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: tell her you need to take a nap. 67 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: Well, let me ask me ask this last question. This 68 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 4: should be a good one because I like stories. But uh, 69 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: Michelle asks you, what surprised you the most about tests 70 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 4: on a campaign since it was like your first time 71 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: meet her. 72 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: Oh what surprised me the most? 73 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: Like I like it could be a story, you know, 74 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: with your witness or whatever. 75 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: Oh my what I witness? Oh boy, be endless. You 76 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: gotta know what, Yeah, you gotta never you could just. 77 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: Give one one good one that you remember the most. 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: You know it And I'll keep thinking about this if 79 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: it come up. When Tess get to talking, I will 80 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: give another answer, but I will never forget her pulling 81 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 2: me to the side, saying, they gonna turn you against me, 82 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: and you gotta make a decision. And it happened almost immediately. 83 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: I had we had gotten each other's resumes before we 84 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: got on the campaign. I remember reading her resume thinking, 85 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: oh shite, it brought oh boy, like this, this is 86 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: not to be something, because her resume was stacked. And 87 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: there's a part of me that wondered if it was 88 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: gonna be friction, if it was gonna be a problem. 89 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: And I remember just thinking, you know what it is, 90 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: what it is, You be excited that you got talent 91 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: on the team, and hope for the best, you know, 92 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: just be open for whatever comes. And when I came 93 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: and picked her up. When I said we hit it off. 94 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: We must have went to I don't remember what restaurant was. 95 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: It was some chain restaurant. As soon as I picked 96 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: her up, we grabbed drinks and we just had an understanding, 97 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,559 Speaker 2: like out the gate, no problem, no friction, no nothing. 98 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: We just had an understanding. When one of our first 99 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: events happened, there was just we fell into our roles 100 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: and there was no that first rally out in Iowa, 101 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 2: I think she probably learned a lot about me, and 102 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: I learned a lot about how she worked, and it 103 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: was intuitive. They had given us the wrong directions, the 104 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: wrong location for the Iowa then, but because his operates 105 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: at a level of excellence that is beyond most people, 106 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 2: we had left two hours before, being two hours early, 107 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: two hours early drive through the event. So we were 108 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 2: four hours early to an event that was only supposed 109 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: to take forty five minutes to get to, and thankfully 110 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: we were because we had been driving for an hour 111 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: to find out that we were going to the wrong location. 112 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: And so you know, the things like that that that 113 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: really showcased who Tess was and allowed me to showcase 114 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: who I was. You know, I drove with my foot 115 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: up on the side. 116 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: Of the glad. You said that, Yeah, learned shells quirks. 117 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 3: Let's get to that about her. 118 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, nowhere reason I gotta eat all outside the 119 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: window while driving by the window. 120 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: Hey, every twenty minutes. 121 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: The house she packs, you know, getting to the airport. 122 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm big on time. Oh my god, the 123 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: least go going on. Must always try to put me 124 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: to have small talk. She learned, I do not do 125 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: small talk. 126 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 2: Yet that's the moment. That is the moment. So we 127 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: went the lobby at the hotel. And by this point 128 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: I've learned she don't like small talk, but I play 129 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: all day. You know, Gemini is sagittaries rising, Gemini sign 130 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: all I do is play, And she'd have made it 131 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: clear she don't like small talk, and I'm gonna move 132 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: to play. We sitt look in the lobby one morning 133 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: it's this girl out there and she was working on 134 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: the campe. Remember who she was, what she was doing? 135 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: And she walks us to us and she's, OK, how 136 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: are you guys doing? I go we are great, and 137 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: Tess does a little I'm about to walk away to 138 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: the side because I don't want no small talk and 139 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: Jess as she walks away, I said, hey, Tess, me 140 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: so and so this is Sarah, Sarah, this is Tess. 141 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: And she looks at me and it cuts her eyes 142 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: and it looks to kill that moment, I would have 143 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: been and walked off like I have no problem like you. 144 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: You're I'm never going to be embarrassed, Marcella. So you 145 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: can continue to push the line and I'll just tell 146 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: them maham, I don't do small talk, So I don't 147 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: know why watch pushing his line. She did it every time, 148 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: like a rental counters whatever. Then finally she'd be like 149 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: she doesn't like small talk, Yeah, I don't, and you know. 150 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: Well, and if we meet somebody at rental counters who like, 151 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: it's a probable her now like a small talk. And 152 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: this is where I learned to just kind of put 153 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: my head in my hands, because why don't people leave 154 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: Tess alone? That's an enduring question that I have that 155 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: she answers every time, and it never resonates. We at 156 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: the counter and she's being polite. One thing about Ted, 157 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: she won't be you know, she don't starting at this, 158 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: she don't start talking crazy. She'll tell you know, assertively 159 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: and politely. Hey, I appreciate this, but I'm not in 160 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: the small talk. We're really trying to get to where 161 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: we get into and he clicks back, you know, oh, 162 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: well I'm just trying to and she's and she does 163 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: it again. She gives them a second chance. You know, 164 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: I hear you. But you know, we really got somewhere 165 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: to go. We just really need to get the car. 166 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: And at this point, I already know where this is going. 167 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: It's gonna go south, like because if he keeps talking. 168 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 3: That's it. 169 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: And I say to him, look, look, look, listen, just 170 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: it's okay, just give us the car. What what do 171 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 2: you have? 172 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: She goes. You know, they training Marcellus to do with 173 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: enter problem, you know, like it's a part of the training. 174 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: Like they literally are supposed to do small talk. They 175 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: just gotta do it. Yeah, it's a part of the 176 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: it's the upsell technique is But some people just are 177 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: uncomfortable about just being silent. Just like when I was 178 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: at the dinnist last week when I'm clearly playing on 179 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: my phone and we're waiting on the stuff to you know, 180 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: my mouth to get mom. So, hey, what do you 181 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: And I said, it's okay. I'm okay with silence. And 182 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: he said, well, you know, I think we were just 183 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: sitting here, right and we're just sitting here, just sit here. 184 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: So I just so it's a little things like that. 185 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: It could be a bunch of stories going on and on, 186 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: but it. 187 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: Was tell you, and that's the thing. The guy wouldn't listen. 188 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: And then it just when it went south, and I 189 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: just stood back and I couldn't say nothing at that 190 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: point because it's doing you. 191 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: I don't know why. 192 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: You're not listening. And to this day, when people get 193 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: on tensis lives or any of that, people get to 194 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: doing what they do, I just be like, but why though, 195 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: don't y'all know, don't y'all y'all. 196 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: Don't want to live. I don't. Everybody gets a chance 197 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: to learn. And Marcellus loves it. By early day when 198 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm physical live, so but I can't 199 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: afford to miss it. Just y'all make me think I'm 200 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: a terible person. I'm really a nice person. I get 201 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: heart for real, like I get my heart leveled out it. 202 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: I care about everybody, I really really do, I sincerely do. 203 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: But I also, you don't know who I am and 204 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: know what it is, and that's just what it is, 205 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: you know. 206 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: So, Tens, you've been there for me for some of 207 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: my biggest life moments and have been nothing but caring 208 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: and loving and empathetic. And so anybody that would would 209 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 2: take any of this and make that their takeaway is 210 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: missing the main point. Love also shows up as telling 211 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: you what you need to hear. Love also shows up 212 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 2: as putting Jade in the middle because I care enough 213 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: about the relationship to make sure there's that space. Love 214 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: is also telling you outright at the beginning that I 215 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: really don't do small talk and we really need to 216 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: get this car politely before I go in on you back. 217 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: And so anybody that thinks otherwise, it's missing the point. 218 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: You are loving, caring, loyal, and will go to the depths, 219 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: you know, to the ends of the earth for the 220 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: people you care for, which is why, like you said, 221 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: you got to have the boundaries and spaces and be 222 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: mindful about who you pour into and how you pour 223 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: into them, because you can't go to is the earth 224 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: if you don't have enough in your taint. So don't know, 225 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: I don't want nobody else to think different. Tez I 226 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: appreciation in fourth and fifth death. 227 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: No, I appreciate it. And it's people in my life 228 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: now that you know. Conversational another day, but just I 229 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: offer so much patience and grace, way more than I 230 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: ever would Michelle, And they don't have a clue, Like 231 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm just how I just be letting you make it. 232 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: But that's what love is, yes, patient and kind, and 233 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: it sees deeply and not personal, and understanding that your 234 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: reaction may not have anything to do with me and 235 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: may come from a different level of pain, you know. 236 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: And so that's why people close to me is really important, 237 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: because I gotta have cause regular everybody else I'm just 238 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna deal with you, Ill deal with you. But I 239 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: also you know, I try to pour into people when 240 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: I can't. Just like when I had the live earlier 241 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: and he was like, I know you worked on national campaigns, 242 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: but just see my perspective, because what I did matter 243 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: to what he was saying wasn't feeling seen, and I 244 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: needed to let him know that's not it. I'll invite 245 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: you on the show all the time. If I didn't 246 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: think you were important, I wouldn't have you on the show. 247 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: Yep. 248 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: But there's a deeper message to he's going through and 249 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm just this is hitting me now, 250 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: the transition he's going through in life of going from 251 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: one community group to another, you know, and feeling kind 252 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: of left out and ostracized. That tells me and person's 253 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: trying to find their footing. You know, where do they belong? 254 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: And I know everybody hasn't walked with the same surety 255 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: that I have. And this hasn't been my choice, That's 256 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: just what God gave me. Just gave me that gift. 257 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: So I try to be I try to be patient, 258 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: but at the same time, I do hold an expectation. 259 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Michelle said one day, you know you I watch you 260 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: handle such and such a kid gloves. You don't do 261 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: me like that, I said, Michelle, because your level of 262 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: greatness requires something different. You know, you have different goals. 263 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: And Jay, you're trying to be in politics. You in politics. 264 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: You in a dog yet dog world. You're not my 265 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: girlfriend that teaches third grade. What the hell are you 266 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: talking about. If you want to be the girlfriend teach 267 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: third grade, go teach third grade. But if you want 268 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: to be a beast in this and you want to 269 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: be representative, Watley or Senator Wattley and all of that. 270 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: We ain't got time to be center talking about no kid, 271 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: but what are you talking about? You want to go 272 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: crayon and color all day, Go do that. But if 273 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna be in this, you gotta have some armor 274 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: built built up in you. So I gotta push you 275 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: in ways that. No, it's not gonna be like that. 276 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: You gotta be. And it's not that they're weaker. They 277 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: just got different callings on their life. They're designed to 278 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: talk softly because of the third graders. Right, you try 279 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: to go talk to the governor and you can tak 280 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: I got time to be sent up talking to you 281 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: about girl. Please, you better figure it out, you know 282 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. So it just depends on what side 283 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: you get, you know. But I've learned a lot, and 284 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: I've learned I wanted to give Michelle flaus and I'm 285 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: gonna get off for real. I've learned a lot through 286 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: my friendship with Michelle. I joke a lot back getting 287 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: rid of her. I mean, really wasn't a joke. What's real? 288 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: I really was trying to get rid of her she was, Yeah, 289 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: I really was because I and it's because having friends 290 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: is very overwhelming for me, you know what I mean. 291 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: I mean like it's a lifelong thing. It's not a 292 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: I've had the same best friends since I was ten 293 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: years old. I don't switch up, you know, I don't 294 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: have Oh these are my friends in middle school, and 295 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: these are my friends in high school. And these are 296 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: my friends in the military, and these are my friend 297 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: in college. You know what I mean. These are my 298 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: friends when I was married. These are know, I got 299 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: the same friends, literally same friends. So I don't have 300 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: new boxes that I need checked or field or anything 301 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: like that. I hold those positions very sacred to me. 302 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: But I am grateful for Michelle in my life because 303 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: having my girlfriends my two best friends don't do what 304 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,119 Speaker 1: I do. So I haven't had a peer or colleague 305 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: girlfriend that I can trust and talk about and you know, 306 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, workshop things out push my leadership, make me better, 307 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: give me space to unpack certain things that just a 308 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: lot of women are just not gonna understand of being 309 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: in this space. And so I'm very grateful for that 310 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: for sure, because even if Michelle's calling saying, Okay, I 311 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: need to unpactice, I'll make sure I'm not going off 312 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: with me too, Am I seeing this right? Girl? Tell 313 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: me that you need somebody's familiar with this space at 314 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: least kind of you know, walk you through it a 315 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: little bit. And I never had that. Nobody My family's 316 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: in this business, nobody, you know what I mean. I 317 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of friends. I know people in 318 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: this business, but again I choose not to attach myself 319 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: to people. So one thing about politics is having a 320 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: close confidant, you know, somebody you can really tell something 321 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: and know it doesn't leave. And so Michelle has truly 322 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: truly been that for sure. So I guess I don't 323 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: show you enough flowers. It's starting to get. 324 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: Uncomfortable, I see, So let's don't. Let's go and bring 325 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: it back to a close. 326 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: Yep. She's got to be. 327 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: Careful what you ask God to bless you with. I've 328 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: always wanted someone to put me in a big sister, 329 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: and this is what it looks like. And I appreciate 330 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: you feeling that. 331 00:16:54,360 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: I appreciate you too for real, and we appreciate you too, 332 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: Marcella's you the best. Somebody said the other day they 333 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: love your lab. They love having myself, and there's value 334 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: of that. I would have never thought of you popping 335 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: in from the comments. You'd be sitting there right down 336 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: with me. Ship, I guess five years and. 337 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: After you, yeah, five years we needed we respect. 338 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: I'm loving every moment that I'm still learning. 339 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: I'm learning how you said, I'm learning. You like learning 340 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: real time the girls. 341 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: And he is a soldier for the work that you do. 342 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: Test I'll never forget. We were at that train and 343 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: he marched right up the middle of the house. 344 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: To tell me. 345 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: I said, okay, okay, I provide no fear. 346 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: That's what that's what this little role, I said, Marcella, 347 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: I need to be doing and such and such. You've 348 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: got to be done. He gives damn back in the 349 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: middle of the sentence, and none of that. And one 350 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: thing that you give him some instructions, he's gonna follow them. Instruction. 351 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: Now that's for that right that when it comes to 352 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: picking up greens, go all outside of that, because he 353 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: bb ain't all off course. Else you on course, he said, 354 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: when to come to the main course myself, can he 355 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: get my greens? So she said she got it. She 356 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: said she got it all. 357 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 4: One wait and then and I learned. I think she'd 358 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 4: be trying to set me over. She'd be like, uh, 359 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 4: like if we gonna go somewhere to eat, Oh, you know, 360 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 4: you don't have to be on you know, on time, 361 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: just be between this time I still need. 362 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: I didn't mean that that day though, I wouldn't Michell 363 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: know for sure, but that day I was one of 364 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: That day it really was. I was like, no, we're 365 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: gonna be between twelve and twelve that we was really relaxing. 366 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: But when it comes, because you know, just a casual 367 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: kind of pop up, but events like oh yeah, you 368 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: already know, I'd like to make sure because I like 369 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: to cover for all the things that could possibly happen, 370 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: you know. So anyway, story for another day. We got 371 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: a time management a webinar that I know I'm gonna do, 372 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: and it just makes it. It makes a difference. He 373 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: always missing flights, missing this vincing that I fly all 374 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: the time. And I was thinking about you, Michelle. I 375 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: was like, no, there's certain things. He's like, No, the 376 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: gate gonna be right there. And I was thinking about 377 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: how I've worked with you on that, like stop just 378 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: assuming you know, if you if you don't just assume 379 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: it's I was gonna be gate fourteen, because if you 380 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: were in line when it started boarding, you would have 381 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: known they switched to to gate fifteen. 382 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: That's it. 383 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: But you didn't do that. So those small things, Oh, 384 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: I still got time, and then you go to the 385 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: last minute. Oh what's the point of Russian I'm just 386 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: gonna get on and they have to wait, Well, they 387 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: switch gates. It's those small little tools, you know, that 388 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: just make a difference in efficiency, and we'll we'll talk 389 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: about those things. But Michelle has been great with me 390 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: giving her different tools that I know just work. 391 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: You know. 392 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: There's systems to things, small things like you know, as 393 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: soon as you go through Tessa, put your phone in 394 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: your probably, you know, so you won't lose your phone. 395 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: Get a system, a habit about where you're putting things 396 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: and picking up things. We learn that by living together, 397 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: stop scattering stuff all everywhere that way, last minute, you're 398 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: not losing things. Keep things the same, you know. So 399 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: just little things like that, guys that as we talk 400 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: about training, when I tell y'all that I'm going to 401 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: do training training out, I mean it. I'm not just 402 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, just the basics. I'm talking about 403 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: when we get done with the basics, webinars, time management, 404 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: how to be efficient, how to do you know, officer 405 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: of things? And I've bringing on people like Michelle and 406 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: Chreasse and so many others. They can just give you 407 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: tools that can make a difference in you changing your 408 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: entire race around and your entire community around, just by 409 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: knowing one or two little things that could have made 410 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: a difference that were very, very small and minute. I 411 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: know I'm long winded. I give a lot of information, 412 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: but I promise guys, if you just pick up some 413 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: of this, it'll make sense. 414 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: I've been in training for ten years and again everything 415 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: from my political ideology to how I transtravers through airports 416 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 2: I can get through airports has shifted, And so you 417 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: don't want to miss out on the opportunity to to 418 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: learn those tipbits that could literally make the difference in 419 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: your race. 420 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could make a big difference. Sufficiency. Michelle is 421 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: smart as a web master's degree, traveled abroad, but sometimes 422 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: you just need She's has a situation now where she's 423 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: looking for some places relocating all that, and I was like, Michelle, 424 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: I need to do is go to do blah bla 425 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, don't go in town and look around like, oh, 426 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: it did make a difference. Those small little things, you know, 427 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: tweeks yep, small tweaks like Marcella's. Did she show you 428 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: how to put up the step? Repeat? Yeah, she called 429 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: me Michelle. Actually he did. She didn't to put it up? Well, 430 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: I thought she showed you. Oh, well she told me 431 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: see small things. See when Michelle, I would have known 432 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: and say, did she physically show you? But I mean 433 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: like Marcella's. I'm Marcella's. I'm learning now I know she 434 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: don't you Marcella's as then put it out? Take that? 435 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: Then he cried, and Michelle said, well it was at target. 436 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: Well white a man and Marcella's. You had at your 437 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: apartment for two weeks straight. What about that? You have 438 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: plenty of time. 439 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: But it was her responsibility to show me. 440 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: You can get no excuses out ten she ad. 441 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: From home. This is basic, Michelle. One on one ship. 442 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm way ahead of it. You don't know how many time. 443 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: Michelle then did this ship? But she'll walk cross so 444 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: you can walk Marcella's. I already did this ship? You 445 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: did you? You you coming in late? Already did this? 446 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's what you mean that ship. Marcella's do it too. 447 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: Oh she'll do that. Michelle's been doing that for ten years. 448 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: Like it's so big epiphany. Oh, now I get it. 449 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: It's little tweak your voice from eight to attend that 450 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 2: makes it hit different. 451 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: You said this six times Michelle before you know. Yeah, 452 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: but you just say it like this this typing girl night. 453 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: See you got a tweak. 454 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: So try different, you try something different, I said to Michelle. 455 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: And already ran every every piece of the game you 456 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: was trying to. Now, Michelle did it from a learning 457 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: if they passed at the union. But it ain't gonna 458 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: pay us, alady, we don't do union politics. 459 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: And I went to the end of the video to say, 460 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: I'm like union carpet there. That was my first career, 461 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: So I get it. Marcella's this a whole different ball game. 462 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: So Marcella's tried it was gonna call that every time 463 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: the best thing batter. See all everybody else accountable. That's 464 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: what m. 465 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 3: Voting. 466 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: Oh girl, don't to but you too, such and such. 467 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: He definitely passed a little bit, like if you gotta 468 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: hold the line, everybody else got a hold. 469 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: So and so because what what you know, okay, make 470 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: you the best, because I said, I said, where we're 471 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: going to eat today, We're gonna go to set such 472 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: they got the best. 473 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: And he said, according to me, no tell me something, 474 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: because once you say it's the best, you gotta go 475 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: back in and add the prentice and say. 476 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: To me, okay, then because I have a disclaiming when 477 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: messing with that, Yes. 478 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: You do, because you said, and I'm glad he did it. 479 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: And then even when he was in the line, he said, 480 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: now that macaroni cheese ain't cheesy. According to me, let 481 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: me talk like we do up on the line. You 482 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: said it, so we got to on it. You standing 483 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: on it too, So you two or three words can 484 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: make a difference like I do. Say cord to me, okay, 485 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: I can understand that. What I don't understand is the 486 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: absolute because now you got to meet the level of 487 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: a standard, and you add it. 488 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: Ain't want we the standard. Don't do no volunteer line 489 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: vola line. 490 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: You call it with people volunteer lit a lot, Joe Biden, 491 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: you stand on it with the disclaimers. Never use the absolutes. 492 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: Always allow yourself to scape round, Always get good to go. 493 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: We can navigate the conversation. No, sir, they hat to 494 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: make it the best at it though. They won't pull 495 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: it on you nowhere to take these tools and get 496 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: you promise you that's just. 497 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: How you wear your kid paign. You tell your neighborhood, 498 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 2: your community, all that. That's what you go back here. 499 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: That's exactly if what that can they talking about? This 500 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: ain't the court of law. Not you with no with 501 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: your handle talking about for x y Z. Yeah, this 502 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: actually is the quarter. You gotta know how to operate 503 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: with your words. You know what you mean. That's samantas. 504 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: It ain't samantas. You said verbatim x y Z. That 505 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: ain't semantics. You're moving the gold posts. Just say, let 506 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: me rephrase. They do it in the court of law 507 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: all the time. Objection, Let me rephrase, just rephrase it. 508 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: Don't go back talking about no what I did? No, No, 509 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: no rephrase, Yes, sustain, that's what sustain is about. Let 510 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: me rephrase. Let me ask it another way. Okay, this 511 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: ain't with Okay, I'm breaking the rules. Let me say 512 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: this over rule you understand. That's the reason if you 513 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: operate your mind that way. What you mean? This ain't 514 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: no court, Yes, it is politics is the law. It 515 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: literally the law literally, so you need to be thinking 516 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: like that. You need to be barbershop talk. I don't 517 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: like barb that's we don't like small talk. When charlotterother 518 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: but best small talk, I don't like small talk because 519 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: small talk doesn't have a lot of rules. It's just 520 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: random talking, and I don't I'm not fulfilled by that. 521 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: You know, I do like to have fun. I'm silly, Michelle, 522 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sitting we have when it's the dumb time, downtime. 523 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: I'm cool with dumb and silly and all of that. 524 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: But if we're gonna really start having some conversations, and yeah, 525 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: that's why I don't like having certain conversations. People just hey, 526 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: let's just talk about something random. I don't want to 527 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: get into this because my mind is only set up 528 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: one way. I'm not gonna be set up having no 529 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: barbershop conversation. I don't like hypothet What are the rules? 530 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: What are we talking about? You know, other than that 531 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: who's the best of all time? And then arguing for 532 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: forty five minutes and you haven't even set up what 533 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: the best is? 534 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: Right? The parameters? 535 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: Now we can go into it and see, because that's 536 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: gonna change based on what we're talking about. If we 537 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: say the greatest athlete of all time, if we talking 538 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: about stats and sports and achievements and championships and all that, Okay, 539 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: that might be Michael Jordan, but we're talking about doing 540 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: something you negroes would never do today and ain't never 541 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: did we gonna talk about Muhammad Ali is the greatest 542 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: of all times because y'all would never Michael Jordan would never, 543 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: literally would never. He said, keep me out of y'all bullshit. 544 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't do politics. So my definition of greatness, according 545 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: to what the Bible say, separate the goat from the sheep, 546 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: who was standing from the least of these. My subjective 547 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 1: moral compass is gonna lean towards uh Muhammad a Li. Now, 548 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: if you want to say who's the greatest, when to 549 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: come to stats and all of that, okay, we can 550 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: have that conversation. But if you want to talk about 551 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: a person's character, I don't exclude the character. Lebron James 552 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: is gonna be the greatest to me. I don't have 553 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: to because his stats already meet the expectations of greatness. Right, 554 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: So we talk about meat and exceed. It already meets 555 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: in the big arment. Boyfriend, about this a out of that, 556 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: you diminishing ain't not No, Just because I'm saying I 557 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: like Lebron don't mean I'm diminishing something else. Y'all need 558 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: to understand that just because I like cotton candy don't 559 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: mean I don't don't like strawberries. Right, It just mean 560 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: I like cotton candy. But if I'm gonna define great athlete, yes, 561 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to look at again. Let's not forget Lebron 562 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: meets the standards on stats, you know, in achievements and 563 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: championships and all of that, and now we're going further 564 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: with his character as a husband, as a dad, as 565 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: his positions. He's taken all of that. That's what I 566 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: define subjectively as great. Yes, I'm not gonna define that 567 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: with Kobe unless we're talking about a parameter of stats 568 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: and you know all of that. But if we're talking 569 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: about somebody being silent when it comes to oppression, you'll 570 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: never find them in my great category it And it 571 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: ain't nothing wrong with that. We just need to know 572 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: Tupac is gonna resonate with me different than Jada Kiss 573 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: and Jada Kiss can be a better rap. I'm gonna 574 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: use that as an example, but that's not where I'm 575 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: they They got class classes about Tupac, that's it, just 576 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: right now today, thirty years ago. That's greatness to me, 577 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: nobody got. They don't have classes about Biggie Small. So 578 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue you said that argument every year 579 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: about when he make you dance, well, y'all like dancing, 580 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: y'all boots on the ground type people. So that ain't 581 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: with that ain't how I define legacy and greatness and 582 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: stories that inspire, and you know all of that. 583 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: And that's what three classes about Tupac are about, not exactly, 584 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: not just his music, but everything else, what he stood for, everything. 585 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: Else would he stood for. So no, I'm not gonna 586 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: let you say anything about Killer Mike. But he may 587 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: be a better rapper. It doesn't matter. The sacrifice is 588 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: made to speak on even if you don't agree with 589 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: everything he's done. Your favorite rapper ain't says shit about nothing. 590 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: That's it. 591 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: And you and I have seen Killer Mike in the 592 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: background do things too. 593 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: Checking the single service your rappers, your rapper y'all love 594 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: would never so to me, it's his Grammy Awards to 595 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: me was a different award based on what God wanted 596 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: him to have. Don't I always have to be about 597 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: the song or this or that. You know, it's no 598 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: You've been awarded here on earth for other reasons that 599 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: maybe y'all can't see. 600 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 3: That's it. 601 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: It's all about just being subjective and whoever whoever's looking 602 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: at it get to define the rules. That's why different 603 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: judges let stuff go, some don't, Some write opinions about it, 604 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: some disagree. You know that. That's what's fun about it. 605 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: The point is, though, whatever you say stand on business. 606 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: That's the point. All right, guys, this has been great. 607 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: It's been a long one, but I appreciate y'all joining me. 608 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: It's been a good one. Thank you for the questions, Marism. 609 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely thanks all right. Please, if you like what you 610 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: heard on Straight Shot No Chaser, please subscribe and drop 611 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: a five star review and tell a friend. Straight Shot 612 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: No Chaser is a production of the Black Effect podcast 613 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: Network in iHeartRadio, ANTISLM figure Out and I like to 614 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: thank our producer editor mixer Dwayne Cruffer and our executive 615 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: producer Charlotta Magne of God. 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