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Speaker 1: All Right, here we go. It is a Tuesday summer

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Speaker 1: over football and the Herd officially back. It is great

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Speaker 1: to be here with our fancy news set live in LA.

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Speaker 1: It's the Herd wherever you may be, however you may

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Speaker 1: be listening. Ryan Day, buck Eye's head Coach, stops by

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright, Albert Breer, our final Herd hierarchy moving into

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Speaker 1: the season. We're all a little ten ready to roll. Jmax.

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Speaker 1: That was about as bad last night. I knew what

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Speaker 1: today's lead was going to be, and for at least

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Speaker 1: five to seven minutes it was a masterpiece for UNC

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and Roy Williams. That ended up being an

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Speaker 1: all time conquered I mean that is as bad twenty

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Speaker 1: nine to ten first downs, So there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of hope even TCU's a social media team is mocking

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Speaker 1: Carolina football today. So of all the discussion about Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: the big concern I had was, remember I talked about

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Speaker 1: this forty transfers, It's like a friends and family coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: There's three Belichicks, and Mike Lombardi and his son, and

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Speaker 1: then there's Belichick's girlfriend, and then there's Jamie Collins who's

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Speaker 1: never been a coach, but he played with Belichick. It

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Speaker 1: kind of feels like a friends and family staff. And

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Speaker 1: I saw that with Bill Belichick at the end of

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Speaker 1: New England. He didn't hire the best coaches available. He

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Speaker 1: hired the guys he was most comfortable with. Young Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick would have fired this. Bill Belichick, he's seeking comfort.

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Speaker 1: You can't coach in a gated community. Nick Saban goes

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Speaker 1: out and hires Lane Kiffen is the OC. They were

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Speaker 1: at each other's throats. Sabin was not seeking the most

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Speaker 1: comfortable guy to hire. He brought in Lane Lane's ego,

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Speaker 1: but Lane's a great coach, and Sabin continually would go

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Speaker 1: get the best coach available. After the first drive, they

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Speaker 1: had a really nice scripted first drive. After that, six

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Speaker 1: drives without completing a pass. Because the game has changed.

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Speaker 1: You have to take offense seriously. Freddy Kitchens is the OC.

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Speaker 1: He was already on staff, you know, So why putting

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Speaker 1: the effort into going out and getting the best OC

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Speaker 1: on the market. We'll just move up. Freddy Kitchens was

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Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens up for elite offensive coordinator jobs in the

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Speaker 1: This is like what they did in New England where

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Speaker 1: they made the DC the offensive coordinator. Wen't worry about

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Speaker 1: offense tomorrow. This offense isn't good. This is when Belichick

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Speaker 1: interviewed with the Atlanta Falcons. Remember he laid out his

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Speaker 1: plan and one of the reports or two of the

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Speaker 1: McVeigh coaches his guys. Then they go on and become

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Speaker 1: good head coaches. Andy Reid, he'll coach his guys, then

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Speaker 1: they leave. You ever, notice with Belichick, it's a lot

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Speaker 1: always come back. So I watched last night Sunny Dikes,

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Speaker 1: by the way, the coach at TCU, his dad was

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Speaker 1: a legendary coach. You know, what. They never worked together.

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Speaker 1: They didn't want the nepotism, they didn't work together. So

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Speaker 1: The transfer portal feels a little like coined. Everybody thinks

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Speaker 1: bring in all these new players. But I think Belichick

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Speaker 1: That is the opposite of the early Bill Belichick. You

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Speaker 4: they were just better than we were tonight. That's all

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Speaker 1: very interesting read. It's inside the Cowboys decision to trade

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Speaker 1: don't think Michael was the most popular guy in the

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. He would bark at his friends. Jeff Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if the quarterback Troy Aikman, legendary Barcinet

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Speaker 1: what he wanted. You got to have the cake made

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Speaker 1: They don't have the culture right now or the leadership.

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Speaker 1: They needed Michael Parsons to be more than just seball

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing. When you're gonna give forty seven

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Speaker 1: there any greater deal maker than Howie Roseman in their

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Speaker 1: seen this. I don't get the rints in repeat factor

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Speaker 5: Winning is everything to me. I don't think you're gonna

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Speaker 5: find a more competitive person on the team or anywhere

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Speaker 1: So here we go. This is our last heard hierarchy

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Speaker 2: Herd hierarchy. No go the top ten NFL teams according

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Detroit in there. They've got two new coordinators,

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Speaker 1: They get Aiden Hutchison back. I think their division is

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Speaker 1: I'll put the Rams, although I think Houston is a

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Speaker 1: I'm higher on the Seahawks than everybody else. At five

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Speaker 1: And here's my thing. Second year, with a really bright

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Speaker 8: You also said, you know everybody agrees Bo Nicks is,

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Speaker 8: you know, is a hit and good, and you know

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Speaker 8: I don't not everybody my hands up on not agreeing.

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Speaker 8: I think I wonder what the commentaries after Mac jones

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Speaker 8: first year ten wins Fake Pro Bowl going into year

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Speaker 8: two was, and we compare that to where Bo Nicks is.

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Speaker 8: But you also said John Schneider is the best GM

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Speaker 8: in football. I mean forget my guy, Brett Veach. Howie

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Speaker 8: Roseman might have something to say about that, but more

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Speaker 8: importantly than any of that, because obviously you and your

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Speaker 8: merry brand of you know friends in the media that

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Speaker 8: are just convinced the Chiefs fifteen wins and third straight

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Speaker 8: Super Bowl appearance was sign of doom. That's fine, I'll

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Speaker 8: set that aside. Where are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers colin eleven?

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Speaker 8: How did the Tampa Bay eleven? You always say eleven?

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Speaker 8: Whenever I bring up the team, you always say eleven.

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Speaker 9: I feel like the Bucks are a little.

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Speaker 8: Disrespected, the Seahawks and Broncos are a little overly respected,

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Speaker 8: And I might argue for like, I'm surprised you didn't

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Speaker 8: find room for the Chargers or the Bears, and so

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Speaker 8: those would be my bigger gripes, like the Chiefs being Chiefs, Bills, Ravens,

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Speaker 8: Eagles all are the four best teams in football. We

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Speaker 8: can argue about the order. One of those teams is

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Speaker 8: not like the other with Denver and they're owen seven

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Speaker 8: record against good AFC teams last year, But we'll see

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Speaker 8: how that works out.

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Speaker 1: So I said on the Mica trade is that it

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Speaker 1: was remarkable to me the pushback Dallas Scott, because I

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Speaker 1: watched Micah and Ceedee, Lamb and Dad get housed by

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Speaker 1: the Packers in a playoff game and trail like twenty

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Speaker 1: seven to nothing. I've seen it, and that was with

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Speaker 1: a better coaching staff than this staff. So Green Bay

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Speaker 1: needs a playwrecker, and that's what he is. The Cakes built,

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Speaker 1: he's the icing Dallas needs players and flexibility. Were you

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Speaker 1: surprised or maybe you agree with it? The outrage and

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Speaker 1: the negativity on Dallas getting two first rounders having four

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Speaker 1: total in the next two drafts. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: next year could be a exceedingly promising quarterback draft. Or

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Speaker 1: I got it for Dallas, did you? So?

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Speaker 8: This is one that I think you nailed more than

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Speaker 8: most and I agree. Listen, I would not want to

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Speaker 8: be in the business of trading Micah Parsons. I think

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys made up and I think you might agree

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Speaker 8: with this, made a bunch of mistakes that led them

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Speaker 8: to this place I would have signed Micah a year ago.

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Speaker 8: If I was looking at it and said, hey, we

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Speaker 8: cannot have CD at the top of market, Dak at

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Speaker 8: top of market, and Mike at top of market, We're

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Speaker 8: gonna have to move off one of those three. Micah

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Speaker 8: would have been the last one that I moved off of. Like,

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Speaker 8: so there are things I would have done differently, But

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Speaker 8: once they got to where they were.

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Speaker 9: My defense of Dallas is this.

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Speaker 8: If the breaking news last week, Colin was not that

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Speaker 8: Mike has traded, it was that the Cowboys signed Micah

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Speaker 8: to the exact contract Green Bay did, everyone would be

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Speaker 8: killing the Cowboys like they put themselves in a spot where,

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Speaker 8: no matter what, they were going to be criticized, because

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Speaker 8: if you cannot pay Micah forty seven, DAK sixty, CD

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Speaker 8: thirty five and say and sure, we're just going to

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Speaker 8: be better than we've been the last few years when

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Speaker 8: you haven't been good enough. So once they got to

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Speaker 8: the place they were in, I understood the trade. Their hope, obviously,

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Speaker 8: is that it is their version of the Chiefs trading

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Speaker 8: away Tyreek kill, where you recognize he's a great player,

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Speaker 8: but recognize you have other holes you need to fill.

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Speaker 8: I don't like that they got to the place, but

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Speaker 8: once they got there, two first round picks and in

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Speaker 8: my opinion, a good player in Kenny Clark. It's not

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Speaker 8: an overwhelming return, but it's fine. They just obviously have

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Speaker 8: to hit on those picks. So I agree with you

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Speaker 8: that once they got to this place, trading him was understandable.

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Speaker 8: I don't like the process that led them to getting

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Speaker 8: to this place.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: So I'm watching Belichick and we looked it up this morning.

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Speaker 1: If you take Cleveland, New England and that game last

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Speaker 1: night without Brady, Belichick has averaged nineteen points in his career.

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Speaker 1: And I've said this, Andy Reid got to five NFC championships,

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Speaker 1: Prima homes, Andy Reid won, got to the playoffs with

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith. Andy Reid wins everywhere. I cannot be the

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Speaker 1: only person that watches that game last night and think

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Speaker 1: it's this is not aging. Well, this does not look good.

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Speaker 1: When Tom goes to Tampa in a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a pirate ship, of course, and wins the trophy, I

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Speaker 1: do think this dings his legacy. I don't think the

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Speaker 1: last several years helps at all.

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Speaker 9: Well, I agree.

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Speaker 8: With the last part. It certainly doesn't help. There's no

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Speaker 8: argument that it helps. Now, how much does it hurt

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Speaker 8: that I'm not ready.

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Speaker 9: To go there yet?

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Speaker 8: What I will say, let me defend Bill and then

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Speaker 8: give you my thoughts on last night. We all, all

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Speaker 8: of us that were there for the first three Super

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Speaker 8: Bowls recognize those were defense led teams with an incredibly clutch,

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Speaker 8: but not yet great quarterback.

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Speaker 9: The final Super Bowl.

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Speaker 8: In twenty eighteen, Colin, they shut down Todd Gurley, Sean

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Speaker 8: McVeigh and a good Jared Goff to the tune of

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Speaker 8: three points in the Super Bowl. Like his ability for

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Speaker 8: twenty years in New England and to put great defenses

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Speaker 8: around Tom should not be overshadowed in how that team

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Speaker 8: won as much as they did. So that part no

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Speaker 8: one can ever take away from him. But the fact

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Speaker 8: that we now over the last half decade in New England,

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Speaker 8: his talent evaluation was questionable, His coaching staff decisions were

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Speaker 8: outright bad.

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Speaker 9: His inability to ever get.

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Speaker 8: The quarterback position right outside of Brady, which is a

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Speaker 8: big yeah. But because Brady is the greatest player in

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Speaker 8: the history of the sport, that matters. And we've talked

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Speaker 8: about this, the Melding of his personal and professional life

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Speaker 8: and the really odd decisions to keep that front and

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Speaker 8: center up to an including last week with the trade

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Speaker 8: attempted reported trademark of gold Digger and other things. The

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Speaker 8: only way that's going to be okay is if you

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Speaker 8: continue being excellent. And not only were they not excellent, they.

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Speaker 9: Were awful last night.

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Speaker 8: And it also to me there was a lot of

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Speaker 8: excuse making for a I'm not writing the kid off,

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Speaker 8: but a poor arch Manning performance because we were like

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Speaker 8: man Mike or Matt Patricia's defense, like there's just nothing

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Speaker 8: a college kid.

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Speaker 9: Could ever have done well.

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Speaker 8: Josh Hoover looked pretty fine last night against Bill Belichick's defense,

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Speaker 8: So I don't think it was all that. I think

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Speaker 8: it's also the personnel and the experience. But yeah, that

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Speaker 8: is Colin. I looked this morning. They're now projected to

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Speaker 8: win five and a half games, like they have three

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Speaker 8: non con games coming up and then a game against

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Speaker 8: Stanford Nancy State late, but they're going to be underdogs

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Speaker 8: the majority of the rest of the way, and that

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Speaker 8: team doesn't look anywhere close to competing for anything significant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, the arch Manning thing, which you

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Speaker 1: alluded to, I said, you know, I was driving in

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Speaker 1: this morning and I was thinking about I never want

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Speaker 1: to be too harsh, but there's a difference between jitters

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Speaker 1: and nerves and like not throwing more than maybe one

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Speaker 1: ball all afternoon, where you're like, oh, that was pitch

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Speaker 1: and catch. That's it was off kilter. He felt pressure

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Speaker 1: that didn't exist. He missed multiple layups. He sometimes he

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Speaker 1: faded into pressure like it's it looked about as bad

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Speaker 1: as it could be. And he's been with Sark three years.

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Speaker 1: And you can criticize Sark well, but he was Sark

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Speaker 1: can coach offense in quarterbacks.

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Speaker 9: We know that it was. It listened.

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Speaker 8: It's not everything, but it's not nothing, and it is.

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Speaker 8: You then start looking with a finer tooth comb at

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Speaker 8: him versus the other guys who were, you know, early

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Speaker 8: in their college career being talked about as future number

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Speaker 8: one picks. I understand his rookie year didn't go. These guys,

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Speaker 8: by the way, haven't yet to be proven to be

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Speaker 8: great pros. But Caleb Williams, the first time he ever

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Speaker 8: played college football as a true freshman, gets dropped into

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Speaker 8: the Red River Shootout down two scores, then Cooks and

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Speaker 8: It's just unbelievable. Trevor Lawrence as a true freshman goes

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Speaker 8: undefeated and beat Alabama in the National championship game, goes

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Speaker 8: thirty eight to two. And again you can say, well,

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Speaker 8: what does that matter because those guys haven't been the

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Speaker 8: pros you know, Caleb Early and Trevor through four years

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Speaker 8: that we.

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Speaker 9: Would have hoped.

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Speaker 8: The point is, those guys had this type of hype

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Speaker 8: about number one overall pick and immediately backed it up.

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Speaker 8: My concern for Arch going into the game was multi layered.

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Speaker 8: One is, it's not nothing that Texas last year decided

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Speaker 8: Quinn Ewers was the better option. Now, Quinn's a great

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Speaker 8: college player, seventh round pick, they're going for national championship.

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Speaker 8: I understand that, but that's not nothing. Expecting Arch to

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Speaker 8: cook against the national champion on the road in his

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Speaker 8: first ever road game, that was curious. And then also

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Speaker 8: the fact that he didn't go to a football factory.

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Speaker 8: He went to a small school in New Orleans and

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Speaker 8: had a nice but not overwhelming high school career, and

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Speaker 8: then three years in we haven't seen him play in

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Speaker 8: a big spot yet. There were just a lot of

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Speaker 8: reasons for me to believe this is going to be

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Speaker 8: tough on him.

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Speaker 9: Now. I didn't think they'd only score.

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Speaker 8: Seven points, but I did like Ohio State significantly in

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Speaker 8: the game. And I'm not writing off Arch Manning on

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Speaker 8: anything except for this. I do think we can write

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Speaker 8: him off on this year's Heisman Trophy, not only because

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Speaker 8: he now has a hugely high profile bad game, but

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Speaker 8: also because when you watched that, does it feel like

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Speaker 8: he's about to rip.

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Speaker 9: Off ten straight awesome games?

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 8: I know their next three San Jose State, UTEF, Sam Houston,

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Speaker 8: he should be great. Then it's at Florida in the swamp,

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Speaker 8: and then it's the Red River shootout.

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Speaker 9: Like I think that.

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Speaker 8: You know, his grandfather was like Arch is going to

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Speaker 8: stay for two years, and Arch was like, I don't

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Speaker 8: know about that. I think that's more on the board

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Speaker 8: now than it was going into the game. And that's

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Speaker 8: not an indictment, but it did feel like he was

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Speaker 8: anointed without having accomplished in a way we hadn't seen

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Speaker 8: recently in college football.

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Speaker 1: Totally agree, it's good to be back. You know, I

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Speaker 1: do enjoy working. I take some respites, but I do

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Speaker 1: enjoy working.

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Speaker 8: Listen, Colin, you are for thirty years the hardest working

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Speaker 8: man in the industry and now you're the hardest working

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Speaker 8: man in the industry September through May. And you know what,

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Speaker 8: that's fine. There's no problem with that, bro. You have

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Speaker 8: earned it. I respect it, and I love it. It's

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Speaker 8: good to see you again.

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Speaker 1: Ah, Nick, right, friend, Nick? Right? First things first? Which

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Speaker 1: is at it an hour? So that is great? Jay Mack.

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Speaker 1: We both had good summers with our families. That's what

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Speaker 1: it was about. You and I decided let's go have

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Speaker 1: some fun this summer.

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Speaker 6: Oh it was outstanding until I came back and saw

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Speaker 6: you left the forty nine ers off the hurt hierarchy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what a glaring error.

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Speaker 6: Twelve twelve with the easiest schedule that the NFL has seen.

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Speaker 1: I'm not putting in schedule yet. Let's see what transpires.

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Speaker 1: I think they're I think Seattle beats Seattle's a two

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Speaker 1: point dog at home.

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Speaker 2: Six.

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Speaker 1: I think Seattle is going to beat San Francisco. There

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Speaker 1: are two point dog at home.

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Speaker 6: Well, you want to have a side bet, how about this?

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Speaker 6: If the Niners win that game, you have to play

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Speaker 6: around of golf with me this week.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm busy. Oh wow, that's disrespect. I'm okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: I'm out there deal making you.

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Speaker 6: You think the Seahawks are the sixth best team in there?

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Speaker 1: This is this is the herd. Hierarchy is not a

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Speaker 1: schedule ranking. It is your personnel, your coach. It is

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Speaker 1: your acquisitions and free agency. You lose Hufunga Greenlaw. You

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Speaker 1: literally went and got Robert Sola because you're like, we

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Speaker 1: were bad defensively. You just lost two of your best

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Speaker 1: defensive players potentially interesting.

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Speaker 6: So Seattle lost their quarterback Metcalf and Lockett No upgraded.

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Speaker 1: At quarterback coordinator, and hit on another two or three

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Speaker 1: draft picks. I can't believe Seattle is a home dog

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Speaker 1: in a division rivalry game.

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Speaker 6: Make the market is telling you that the Niners are

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Speaker 6: way better and the Seahawks are overvalued.

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Speaker 1: Make a side bet with me.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't have to be golf, doesn't have to be

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Speaker 6: something to chew up your valuable time. Listen, you better

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Speaker 6: hang out with me at least one night this week.

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Speaker 6: Come on, I'll try to make time on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Oh for the gate. We'll watch a game together, all right,

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Speaker 1: you'll buy me food and drinks.

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 1: What's new