WEBVTT - 04/22/21 DPS Hour 1 Ben Volin

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. I am Ahmed Freed, first time here, first

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<v Speaker 1>time in the man Cave. So we have pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>studios at NBC Sports. I mean the Premier League studio,

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<v Speaker 1>which I've been in. I've been locked in that like

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<v Speaker 1>the last five days. Huge TV's in there. Huge TV

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<v Speaker 1>is in the background everywhere, and it's like, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen a studio like that before. So I walked into that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was intimidated. I walk in here. We have basketball courts,

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<v Speaker 1>we got helmets everywhere, and then I just saw this,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite player of all time. I'm from Michigan. Barry

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<v Speaker 1>Sanders signed jersey on the wall. Are you're gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>to take it? Can I have it? Is it like

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<v Speaker 1>a parting gift? Like you don't need it? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan doesn't give stuff up very much. You can't see it,

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<v Speaker 1>you really can't. It's like off camera, so honestly, you

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<v Speaker 1>probably wouldn't even miss it. You know. Dan's got a

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<v Speaker 1>long history of Barry Sanders, going back to the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>He interviewed them and he talked to him like the

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<v Speaker 1>day he retired, and they've got a long history. He

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, as a Lions fan growing up, you

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<v Speaker 1>had very few things to be happy about. They really were.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you might have like Eric Kramer was our

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<v Speaker 1>best quarterback and like, no one knows who Eric Kramer is,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was like my best quarterback growing up. And

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Sanders was that guy. It's like, we're not making

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, we're probably not even gonna get close, but

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<v Speaker 1>we have Barry Sanders, who has the most exciting one

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<v Speaker 1>yard runs of anyone in NFL history. But the problem

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<v Speaker 1>was it was like that was most of his run, right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like in some games that they were super cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved Barry, I loved him. Studio is so I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, like the Premier League studio is intimidating

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<v Speaker 1>because he's got the TVs. This is intimidating. This is

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<v Speaker 1>this is big. But I mean, how long did it

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<v Speaker 1>take to get all this stuff? Wow, that's a big question.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe a lifetime. I think about half the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in here is just from Dan's attic that we took

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<v Speaker 1>when we moved and we opened the studio about two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago on TV. And if you look around, there'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like a pair of socks and there Arnold Palmer

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<v Speaker 1>sock you know, or there's like a helmet from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Griffin. It's kid. So we have three hours, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we can spend the whole three hours just I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>like looking around looking at the book covers. We do

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<v Speaker 1>have three guests though today, and three really good guests,

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple of them I know really well. Matt Mayoko.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to work with him out in the Bay Area.

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<v Speaker 1>I was out in San Francisco for about five or

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<v Speaker 1>six years. He has covered the forty nine ers for ever.

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<v Speaker 1>We're a week away from the draft, and the forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine ers really do have one of the most interesting

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<v Speaker 1>picks in the draft because I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people think Trevor Lawrence going number one, obviously, got Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson going number two, number three, Who's going number three?

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<v Speaker 1>I do a podcast at NBC Sports with Chris Simms, who,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, when you guys ask me, you go,

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<v Speaker 1>who do you want on the show? I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's get someone to talk Premier League. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get Chris Sims on the show if we can. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm watching Tuesday, there's Chris Simms on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Rebecca Lowe's on the show two days before I get here.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you stole my ideas, you took him,

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<v Speaker 1>took him from me, just blocked here. What every every

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<v Speaker 1>turn that everyone that you had planned to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>his previous guests. No, it's good. We got We got

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<v Speaker 1>Robbie Earl talking talking to the the Premier League, so we

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<v Speaker 1>did get one of my friends there. But yeah, Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Mayoko will break down kind of what the forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>ers are going to do with the number three pick,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really does. And there's been so much debate

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<v Speaker 1>on what they should do, what they could do. Who

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<v Speaker 1>is the better quarterback because clearly you have the flashy

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<v Speaker 1>can do it all. Run throw new age quarterback out

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<v Speaker 1>of the Kyler Murray, Josh Allen, mold In, justin Fields

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe Trey Lance if you like him a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit better. And I get that, but I like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>do a podcast with Chris Simms, who loves Mac Jones

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<v Speaker 1>loves him, and a lot of people in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>love him too. Polly, you worked out there for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the Niners and Jimmy Garoppolo is twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>years old, twenty seven touchdowns, was in the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>and was maybe two first downs away from having a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl ring. Is premature to get rid of them

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously they're going in a different direction. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>great question, right. What changed? Nobody's talking about that? That

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<v Speaker 1>is a premature What changed because they spent a second

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<v Speaker 1>round pick on him and he was their new quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>because all the talk before that was Kirk Cousins going

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<v Speaker 1>to come here at some point Kirk Cousins I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going to happen. Let's get our guy then,

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<v Speaker 1>and that guy was Jimmy Garoppolo. And I will be

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<v Speaker 1>so interested to ask Matt what happened there? What changed

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<v Speaker 1>over this past year? Mclovin, He only doesn't Jimmy G

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<v Speaker 1>only play six games a year at a certain point

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<v Speaker 1>ten year window. Maybe they don't think he's durable. And

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<v Speaker 1>part of it too, I wonder, you're right. You need

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who's durable and can be there. And they

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<v Speaker 1>have seen how the whole season, every NFL team sees

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<v Speaker 1>how every season can all fall apart if you lose

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<v Speaker 1>your quarterback. I wonder if Jimmy G can still stay.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some people to say, no, you cannot keep him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got to go. He makes a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that's a good way to convince him. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy g you make a lot of money. You can

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<v Speaker 1>make a lot of money over there just as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We might need you. I don't know I'm gonna pick

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<v Speaker 1>Matt's brain about that, but I'm fascinated with mac Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of my pet peeves is right around this

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<v Speaker 1>time of year, we get drunk on some draft value.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean, Poullie. It's like, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if mac Jones goes number three, that's crazy. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a strong enough arm. That's a bus type pick.

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<v Speaker 1>But if mac Jones goes mid first round into the

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<v Speaker 1>first round, great pick. He's accurate quarterback, he can make

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<v Speaker 1>all the plays. That's a good spot to have Mac Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like we're talking about two different humans here. If

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<v Speaker 1>the Dan always says this, if the Bears had taken

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch Trubisky in the first pick of the second round,

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<v Speaker 1>then he would have been a really nice quarterback and

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<v Speaker 1>a nice value and not expensive. Remember Andy Dalton, I

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<v Speaker 1>think mclub and he was a second rounder, right high

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<v Speaker 1>second rounder. He was a really high end production guy

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<v Speaker 1>for a second round. Yeah, Dad's big one was Reggie Bush.

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<v Speaker 1>If Reggie Bush had been a second rounder, he did

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<v Speaker 1>have a nice little career. Yeah, but he was I

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<v Speaker 1>think the second overall pick. It's a different story altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get it with Mac Jones. He's not flashy,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't look great in or out of a uniform. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I get it. So but he's highly successful

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<v Speaker 1>in that one year at Alabama. And so, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>do have the death of the Super League. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make sure it's still dead. Right the super League it

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<v Speaker 1>was born. I was there. I was sitting on set

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<v Speaker 1>with Robbie Earl and Robbie Musto and doing the Premier

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<v Speaker 1>League show on Sunday, and our producer in my ear

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<v Speaker 1>Adam goes, goes, hey, I think we got to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this Super League thing. It's kind of seeming like

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<v Speaker 1>it broke when you guys were on the air. It

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<v Speaker 1>broke one hundred percent when we were on the air,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was during halftime of our game, and I

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<v Speaker 1>we go, okay, we'll mention it. Because the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times had just come out with a big story on

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<v Speaker 1>it that this is happening, and Robbie Arrow was a

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<v Speaker 1>little skeptical because we've heard this before. It's like we've

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<v Speaker 1>heard Super League. We've been hearing this for ten twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>all these big clubs are going to get together in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was something really different about this and we

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<v Speaker 1>did see it because all the clubs made the formal

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<v Speaker 1>announcement that had never been done before that we are

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<v Speaker 1>joining this big European football league. And so Robbie and Robbie,

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<v Speaker 1>the two Robbies were despondent almost because we're talking, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>top four. This win could get this team into the

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<v Speaker 1>top four. West Ham's in there, Chelsea's trying to get in.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they get done saying that and they go

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<v Speaker 1>does that even matter anymore? Because top four normally gets

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<v Speaker 1>you into the Champions League? But as the Champions League

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<v Speaker 1>even gonna be around, so they understood in the moment

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<v Speaker 1>what that would mean to the Premier League and the

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<v Speaker 1>second tier teams in the other leagues. And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>is that what happened there that they went too big

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<v Speaker 1>too soon and the reaction was overwhelming. They did they

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<v Speaker 1>should have consulted the two Robbies or any other football fan,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and part of me is like, I get

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<v Speaker 1>it right. You want to have the biggest clubs playing

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<v Speaker 1>each other all the time. If in the Premier League

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't have Manchester City Manchester United playing twice a

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<v Speaker 1>year or Arsenal Tottenham playing twice a year, we'd say

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<v Speaker 1>what are we doing? We should those teams should be

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<v Speaker 1>playing all the time. And so I get it from

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<v Speaker 1>the owners standpoints of like Real Madrid in Manchester City

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<v Speaker 1>what we've played maybe three times in the past twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You didn't have to look at it

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<v Speaker 1>if if you happen to meet in the Champions League,

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<v Speaker 1>that's basically the only time you're going to play some

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<v Speaker 1>of those big European clubs from other countries. So I

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<v Speaker 1>get it, But it was just the structure there is

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<v Speaker 1>so different, and it's what they hold on to. These

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<v Speaker 1>smaller clubs can rise up in that idea, even if

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<v Speaker 1>they never do. They could. I'd be curious to know

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<v Speaker 1>from Robbie Earl where this is going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>five years or ten years, right, because like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>the concept has been rumored for ten or twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>and it's clearly not going away. As because at last

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Real Madrid and Barcelona we're still in It's

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<v Speaker 1>just odd. So what happens in five years, say like

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<v Speaker 1>the economic fallout of all this, right, or even of

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<v Speaker 1>COVID Right, that every sports franchise is dealing with what

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<v Speaker 1>happens in five or ten years from now, where the

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<v Speaker 1>super League or the European League is still very much

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<v Speaker 1>on the table because the big clubs are still gonna

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<v Speaker 1>want an ownership of some of those biggest tournaments out there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still gonna want to guarantee profits and guarantee their valuation.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think some of this maybe all the

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<v Speaker 1>sports leagues. Honestly, every business around the world this past

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<v Speaker 1>year has seen where they are vulnerable. They see where

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<v Speaker 1>their business is vulnerable. If it all goes away, we

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<v Speaker 1>have another pandemic boom, this is where we're vulnerable. This

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<v Speaker 1>is where we could have some trouble. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't doubt that the football world saw that and said, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>we have invested millions and billions of dollars into some

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<v Speaker 1>of these clubs and we just saw in a year

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<v Speaker 1>how it could all go away. Let's try to think

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<v Speaker 1>of a different way to make this structure and yes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see if that if that can happen. NFL

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<v Speaker 1>some rule changes proposed, actually voted on and are going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. Nothing major in the NFL, but we do

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<v Speaker 1>have some interesting new rules. We've got Ben Volan on

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<v Speaker 1>from the Boston Globe senior writer. We'll talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots stuff. They didn't get my favorite rule of the

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<v Speaker 1>no on side kick anymore, but you get you want

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<v Speaker 1>to eliminate. I want to. I would. I'd be open

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<v Speaker 1>to it. As you'll find out in these three hours,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm open to some crazy changes. They might turn out

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<v Speaker 1>to be terrible and then I'll say they weren't my idea.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've always opened to some crazy changes. What about

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<v Speaker 1>the overtime spot and choose that got shot down yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>where the teams we talked about this like a month ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Where the team wins a coin hip gets it aside

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<v Speaker 1>who gets the ball and where that whole it's very complicated. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can say, like the other team gets the ball

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<v Speaker 1>out to twenty. I didn't get the benefit of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So one team would pick the spot on the field

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<v Speaker 1>where the ball would be right, and the other team

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<v Speaker 1>would say all right, we want to be offense or defense, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So wouldn't that just you'd end up putting it on

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty five every time or thirty five. You're own right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like named that tune, named that yard line, like

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go to the thirty one, we'll go to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight. But it would be like Wheel of Fortune.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how Wheel of Fortune turned into rst N

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<v Speaker 1>l N E. Wait, not two ends, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Yeah, and so everyone just kept doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>So then we'll go, all right, we'll just give you

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<v Speaker 1>those letters and now give us three extra letters. So

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<v Speaker 1>he is, that's what's on Wheel of Fortune. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen the show in years. They give you R

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<v Speaker 1>S D and LT. Yes, I know, I haven't watched

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<v Speaker 1>it in a few years, but last time I watched it, right, RI,

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<v Speaker 1>LT and E. And then you get at least another

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<v Speaker 1>two continents an avowal three contents about it's like almost

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<v Speaker 1>half the alphabet does already paid exactly because everyone would

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<v Speaker 1>go up there, this is the final right at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>rst l N E. And then Pat say, Jack and

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<v Speaker 1>Vanna got sick of it, and they go, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you will give you those, and it's we gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>at least fifteen years into the doing that seriously, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, yeah. Now I haven't watched that show in

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<v Speaker 1>at least a decade and they did it then, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't they give you letters? I know it's obvious

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<v Speaker 1>new thing they're doing. Yeah, does it prices right? Give

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<v Speaker 1>you the first two numbers of the how much of

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<v Speaker 1>refrigerator caused place? Do you think Bob Barker is still

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<v Speaker 1>the host? Bob's not, He's gone but a minute? What? Uh? Yeah? So,

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<v Speaker 1>but wouldn't it be like that, like every NFL team

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<v Speaker 1>would figure out the yard line that's optimal and that

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<v Speaker 1>that would be it every time? And then I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the other team if they trusted to their

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<v Speaker 1>offense or their defense more. But you said you were

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<v Speaker 1>in the crazy rule change. I know that's a crazy

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<v Speaker 1>rule change, but it doesn't make sense to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get the benefit of that one. The onside kick

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<v Speaker 1>one is interesting to me because that proposal, right, is

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<v Speaker 1>that you would have instead of an onside kick, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a fourth and fifteen from like your own what

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<v Speaker 1>was it twenty five or something like that, So your

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<v Speaker 1>own twenty five, fourth and fifteen. If you get it,

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<v Speaker 1>you just keep going drive as usual. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>get it, the other team gets the ball right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so if it was an incomplete pass right at

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<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage, or if you get ten yards,

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<v Speaker 1>they get it there on the field. And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was going to pass because on side kicks have

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<v Speaker 1>become no one recovers on side kicks anymore. Well, they

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple of years ago, they got rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the run up, so they I think it was down

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<v Speaker 1>to it was four percent a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was down to two percent of on

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<v Speaker 1>side kicks are recovered, and I think it was something

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<v Speaker 1>even less of team's winning after they recovered the on

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<v Speaker 1>side kicks. So even in the rare cases where a

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<v Speaker 1>team would get the on side kick, they didn't win

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<v Speaker 1>the game. They might go to over time. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was intrigued by this because, Okay, this gives teams an alternative,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think what happened with that rule and why

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<v Speaker 1>teams are reluctant to accept it, is it does seem

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<v Speaker 1>to favor the teams that have a quarterback that have

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<v Speaker 1>an offense. If you're the Bears, and you have Mitchell Trubisky.

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably saying, no, I don't know that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do the fourth and the fourth and fifteen. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about all this with Ben Volan, who

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<v Speaker 1>has been all over it for the Boston Globe. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little Patriots with him as well. Robbie Earl, my

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<v Speaker 1>friend and colleague over at NBC Sports, on the death

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<v Speaker 1>of the Super League and maybe Paully if something like

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<v Speaker 1>this and Seaton could ever happen again. We're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>into MLB uniforms, and that's gonna be the hot button

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<v Speaker 1>topic of the show because Polly has some opinions that

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot stand behind. Your West Coast guys. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>save it, but I thought you'd be with me, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of the West Coast, Matt Mayoko, my friend

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<v Speaker 1>at NBC Sports b Area, talking forty nine ers the

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<v Speaker 1>FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys in favor of a full sky judge replay

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<v Speaker 1>umpire who can call the plays on the field from

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<v Speaker 1>the booth without even right now, they sort of went

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<v Speaker 1>in a middle ground where he can influence the officials

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<v Speaker 1>on the field. You can call down. But would you

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<v Speaker 1>like to have an official who's in the booth one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent of time and can call pass interference if

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to, yes or no? What if it just

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<v Speaker 1>moves that way completely? You have no on field officials.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just all the big in the sky we can

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<v Speaker 1>see better sometimes anyway that way, that'd be horrendous for

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<v Speaker 1>the officials who work out all year to get their

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<v Speaker 1>arms jacked, to be in those tight uniforms, and what

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<v Speaker 1>would they do with their arms? They couldn't show them

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<v Speaker 1>off anymore? Good call. You'd have to get a camera

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<v Speaker 1>in the replay booth and even tighter tease McLevin. Yeah. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>The other poet was what would you do if you

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<v Speaker 1>ran the san Francisco forty nine Ers at number three,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would throw in, By the way, you could

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<v Speaker 1>have Mac Jones justin fields trade lance a three quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>or how about you take Kyle Pitts. I know you

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<v Speaker 1>trade it up and you wouldn't trade up, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you and San Francisco, how about Jimmy g throwing up

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Pitts. It's funny because a lot of forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>Ers fans say, if you're gonna do that trade, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta know who you're gonna pick. And then you tell them, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they might pick mac Jones. They go, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be able to change your mind. You can't get

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<v Speaker 1>stuck on one guy. So we'll see. We'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Macmyoko about what the forty nine ers are gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's welcome in Ben Volan from the Boston Globe,

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<v Speaker 1>senior NFL writer. Hello, Ben, Thanks for taking time to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to us here today. Regis story about the rule changes.

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<v Speaker 1>So just right off the bat here, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the rule changes that should get us most excited

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<v Speaker 1>for this coming season? Doesn't seem like anything major, But

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<v Speaker 1>what would you say? No, they really didn't try to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything major, especially in a COVID year. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to, you know, rock the boat too much. But

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<v Speaker 1>the most interesting thing is adding these responsibilities to the

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<v Speaker 1>instant replay judge. And they're they're towing a line very

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<v Speaker 1>very carefully here. You can tell it's it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>half measure to appease the coaches who want less pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on them to have to challenge, and the coaches just

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<v Speaker 1>want the calls to be made right. And there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people in management and the competition committee, the

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<v Speaker 1>ownership level who aren't very comfortable with the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>the instant replay official having sway you know, on officiating

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<v Speaker 1>and throwing a flag from the booth and let's slow

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<v Speaker 1>everything down to the nanosecond and frame by frame to

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<v Speaker 1>see if there should have been offensive holding calls. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of like a half measure that I

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<v Speaker 1>think some people inside the NFL are viewing a little

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<v Speaker 1>skeptically because it is taking them to another threshold that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't usually like. They did that for a year

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<v Speaker 1>when they allowed instant replay to be reviewed, and they

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<v Speaker 1>hated it and they got rid of it. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a measure to make the coach is happy.

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<v Speaker 1>John Harbaugh from the Ravens and the Coaches Subcommittee were

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<v Speaker 1>the ones who really pushed this role, and so they're

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<v Speaker 1>making them happy, but they're also kind of towing the line.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there are a lot of people skeptical

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<v Speaker 1>of allowing the replay official to have too much influence.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it almost to prevent the disasters like the big

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<v Speaker 1>egregious missed call, just the big play they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>because I almost feel like I've seen officials over the

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<v Speaker 1>past couple of years, and I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>communication is between New York and on the field, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, dressed as officials, they come out with the

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<v Speaker 1>earpiece in. It seems like there is some communication already

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<v Speaker 1>going on. But is this going a little bit further?

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<v Speaker 1>Been No question, it's going a lot further. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the thing that Rich McKay, who who's the chairman

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<v Speaker 1>of the Competition Committee, he's the Falcons president, what he

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<v Speaker 1>said yesterday is there only going to allow the replay

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<v Speaker 1>judge to view objective things. What did a guy step

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<v Speaker 1>on a line? Was the ball over the goal line?

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<v Speaker 1>Things that you would think would be objective. Although anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who's watched football know there's a lot of gray area

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of that stuff. Interestingly, this proposal would

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<v Speaker 1>not fix the Saints defensive pass interference call for the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC Championship a few years ago, because that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>a judgment call, that's a penalty. This is only four

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<v Speaker 1>very objective things that the guys step on the sideline,

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<v Speaker 1>Did he complete the catch? Did the ball hit the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're trying to finesse it and we'll see how

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<v Speaker 1>it works this year. But I think certainly this is

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<v Speaker 1>something to appease the coaches. Clearly they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>have to challenge anymore. They want the decision taken away

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<v Speaker 1>from them. So I think the NFL, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>a best case scenario, this helps get the calls right,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't take away from the powers of the

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<v Speaker 1>officials on the field. But we'll see how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. In reality of the other rules, Ben, what

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<v Speaker 1>was most interesting to you, I mean, they're all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of boilerplates off. I mean, the jersey thing is very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>They have opened up the single digit uniforms to linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>and wide receivers and everyone's gonna be fighting for number

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<v Speaker 1>one and number two, and you know they're old college uniforms.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I found so fascinating about this I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know this rule existed until this rule got approved yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're a player and you change your jersey

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<v Speaker 1>number for next year, you have to buy all your

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<v Speaker 1>excess jerseys that are hanging around the warehouses for the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL shop. You have to buy out the jerseys. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you say I'm going to change my uniform in

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<v Speaker 1>two years from now, that gives the NFL enough time

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<v Speaker 1>to still sell your jersey for next year. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a big financial component to this, and guys have to

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<v Speaker 1>decide is it worth changing their jersey if they have

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<v Speaker 1>to spring for four thousand jerseys of their old numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>So not only do you have to decide if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to change your number, ben, you have to call

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<v Speaker 1>around to warehouses throughout the world. How many do you have,

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<v Speaker 1>how many do you have of my jersey? How much

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<v Speaker 1>you're selling them for. That's a lot of work for

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<v Speaker 1>these players. And I'm like, Okay, you just bought three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand of your own jerseys and you're gonna any change

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers, So what are you gonna do with them?

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a fascinating dilemma. Is there a rule ben

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<v Speaker 1>that was not approved that you expected to get approved,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe it's been tabled for years to come. The

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that surprised me, frankly, was that they did

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<v Speaker 1>approve this rule that gave the expanded responsibilities to the

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<v Speaker 1>replay judge. I actually didn't think the NFL was going

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<v Speaker 1>to move that far. They had a bunch of fun proposals,

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<v Speaker 1>and basically all the fun ones got voted down. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think I did see that coming, just because the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of these owners, they don't do change lightly.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, instituting fourth and fifteen as an alternative

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<v Speaker 1>for the onside kick sounds great. I love it. It'd

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of fun. You know, it might make

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL look a little being a football ish, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think the owners are always kind of wary of

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<v Speaker 1>that the sky judge. As I said before, the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>does not really want to take that step if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to, and said they created a half measure.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the Bills had an interesting proposal about the

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<v Speaker 1>timeline for when you can hire coaches. They think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a distraction for their coaches who are in a playoff

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<v Speaker 1>run to be interviewing for jobs, and maybe they're at

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<v Speaker 1>you're at a disadvantage if you make it all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to the super Bowl and the hiring team just

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<v Speaker 1>wants to move on for the NFL table and all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. So we've seen it the last two years.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been fewer proposals and the NFL has accepted

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<v Speaker 1>fewer proposals. Just with COVID. They're not trying to rock

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<v Speaker 1>the boat. They're trying to keep things as normal as possible. Hey, Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>if you'd asked me a couple of years ago, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have said the on side kick is gone. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be gone within five years, too dangerous player safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it almost seems like they're trying to make it work,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wouldn't bet against it sticking around for years

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<v Speaker 1>to come. Am I wrong in that? Ben? No? And

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's another area where they approved of a

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<v Speaker 1>half measure. You know, fourth and fifteen would have would

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<v Speaker 1>have taken a blowtorch to the on side kick. Instead,

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:09.440
<v Speaker 1>they're like, let's see if we can bring the play back.

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 1>You know that they change the kickoff rules so much

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<v Speaker 1>because of health and safety that it rendered the onside

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<v Speaker 1>kick completely, you know, impossible to recover. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers I saw were that four of sixty seven on

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<v Speaker 1>side kicks last year were recovered. That's like five percent.

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<v Speaker 1>You need more than that. You need the play to

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<v Speaker 1>be competitive again. So they instituted this half measure where

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<v Speaker 1>they're limiting the number of players the defense could have

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<v Speaker 1>in the box. You can now only have nine players

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 1>in the box. The offense can only have five on

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<v Speaker 1>either side. So you know, maybe that maybe that measure

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<v Speaker 1>will will help improve the odds of the on side kick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a one year thing. The fourth and fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>will always be around, and if they just can't get

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<v Speaker 1>the on side kick, you know, back to a competitive play,

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<v Speaker 1>then I think, you know, then they'll seriously look at

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:56.920
<v Speaker 1>fourth and fifteen. But they don't want to just take

0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that major step. They want to see if they can

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<v Speaker 1>fix the play. First, Ben, I'm going to give you

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to be wrong. What do you think Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Belichick and the Patriots do on draft night? Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>an area specialty. Especially being wrong about the Patriots in

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:13.919
<v Speaker 1>draft is my specialty. Look, I think the play is

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<v Speaker 1>for the quarterback is definitely there. I don't think there

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 1>are as many teams in front of them that want,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the final two quarterbacks, whoever they may end

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 1>up being, whether it's Lance and Fields, maybe Matt Jones.

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:26.920
<v Speaker 1>But I think a lot of teams would like to

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<v Speaker 1>trade out of their picks, and I think the Patriots

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:31.159
<v Speaker 1>really have to be more worried about the teams behind

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:33.360
<v Speaker 1>them trading up in front of them for a quarterback

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:36.400
<v Speaker 1>like a Washington or a Pittsburgh or New Orleans then

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, Atlanta, Philly, Carolina. I just don't see these

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:42.439
<v Speaker 1>teams being in it right now. So of course, you know,

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>the play is there for the Patriots to go get

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:46.959
<v Speaker 1>Trey Lance, and I think that'd be terrifics sat him

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 1>beside Kim Newton for a year, maybe even find a

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 1>role for Trey Lance, you know, while maybe do the

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.879
<v Speaker 1>two quarterback thing like the Saints did with with Taysom

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Hill and Drew Brees. You know. So I would like

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots to make a bold move to get one

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>of these quarterbacks. And I think the opportunity is there.

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<v Speaker 1>That said this is the Patriots will probably take a

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 1>guard from Rutgers, you know, And I do like the

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.640
<v Speaker 1>idea too. I maybe they take a real player at fifteen,

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 1>but they can always trade up into the back end

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>of the first round, go get number thirty one and

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 1>go get Kellen Mond or Kyle Trask or whoever they

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>like there. So to me, it's a major disappointment if

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots don't come out of the first two days

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<v Speaker 1>of the draft, the first three rounds, if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a quarterback, because clearly they just don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>answer on their roster and they can't keep doing this

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:33.639
<v Speaker 1>where they're just kind of hoping and praying that a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback falls in their lap. They need to be bold

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 1>and go do something about it. If you could pull

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>the fans right now, who do you think they would

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<v Speaker 1>pick to be their quarterback next year and maybe into

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the future, Cam Newton rookie quarterback or trade back for

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy g Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, Jimmy G is the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that I think fans realistically won as the answer. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think it's going to happen this year. Just

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<v Speaker 1>get the sense the Niners feel they have a championship

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>caliber roster and they're not ready to turn that team

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<v Speaker 1>over to some rookie, especially coming off a COVID year

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and a strange pre draft process. So I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>serious about keeping Garoppolo. I think I do think he'll

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>be a play next offseason, but I just don't see

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 1>it right now. The Patriots fans are not into Cam Newton.

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of unrest from the fans, like

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<v Speaker 1>this is the best that you guys could do again

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>after the season that Cam just had. So we'll see.

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.919
<v Speaker 1>But clearly rookie. You know, the fans are ready for

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.400
<v Speaker 1>the team to invest in a rookie. I don't get

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:38.159
<v Speaker 1>the sense that they necessarily want fields over Lance or

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>anything of that nature. I keep hearing that Lance would

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>be a tremendous fit for the Patriots offense. Again, he's

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 1>a guy who needs to sit. So that's, you know,

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.199
<v Speaker 1>no pressure situation with the Patriots. Cam can play for

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>this year and then and Trey Lance could sit. But

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 1>the fans overwhelmingly want this team to go big, go bold,

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>and invest in a quarterback. Well, Ben, I'm rooting for you.

0:26:58.240 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to be wrong. I want you

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 1>to be right. You're right about a whole lot. Ben Vollan,

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>senior NFL writer for the Boston Globe a lot of

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 1>great insights on the rule changes in the NFL and

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 1>what the Patriots may or may not do. Thanks Ben, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of I was a little surprised by that.

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was going to say, rookie quarterback, Patriots

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 1>fans want a fresh start, get one of these rookie quarterbacks.

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Are all about the dynamic ones in the in the draft. Um,

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 1>but I guess Jimmy G one, man, what's the what's

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>the quote? One man's what is another man's what? I

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I forgot the garbage. Yeah, trash is another

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 1>man's treasure? Is that what it is? I didn't want

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 1>to call anyone trip It's not that should be because

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:45.360
<v Speaker 1>that sounds pretty good. Yeah, but I guess I could

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 1>be mclovin. Wasn't Jimmy g like the Golden Tiffers? Did

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 1>they pay him like eighty million dollars? Or wasn't he

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.880
<v Speaker 1>the one true answer? A quarterback just three years ago

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>took him to the Super Bowl? What happened to all that?

0:27:58.000 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You gotta win it. If he had

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<v Speaker 1>off to raheemstered about two more times, you've got to

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>ring the past down the middle. Of the field right

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>at the end. Mclovin. Doesn't it feel though? And I know,

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I think everyone in this room feels this way that

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.640
<v Speaker 1>if the Niners take Mac Jones at number three, it's

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 1>almost like they're drafting Kirk Cousins at number three. The

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Kirk Cousins. I feel like everyone says Kyle Shanahan's ideal

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>quarterback is Kirk Cousins, and I wonder if that makes

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>him mad at all, Not that Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I think is an underrated quarterback. I think he is

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>legitimately a top ten quarterback. Is he properly rated? He

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>seems like you know, some guys are not overrated or underrated,

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>he seems properly rated. He's rank thirteenth in a league

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 1>or but I think most people would put him in

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the twenties. Don't you think when they talk about Kirk Cousins,

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>they're like, Kirk Cousins, he's twenties. Can't win on prime time?

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Ten ten fields. Top ten feels gaudy for Kirk Cousins.

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you want to list them, we could

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>do it in the break or now. I think you

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>could get to ten pretty quick. All right, we can

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>do you that. You look at some of the numbers.

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I know stats lie, but passing yards, passing touchdowns deep

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>down the field. With a team that has a heavy

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>run game, he was able to make a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>impact in the passing game and do it without one

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>of their top receivers from last years to find digs

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.959
<v Speaker 1>and bring along a rookie Justin Jefferson, who probably wouldn't

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>have been able to do that without a good quarterback

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>on his side. I can make a case for Kirk

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Cousins top ten. I also want you guys to make

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>a case because I've already said that I am totally

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<v Speaker 1>on board with any new crazy rule change in any sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite honestly, I have a lot of them for baseball

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>that my friends have heard over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe I will stick you with here today. At

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>some point we should do that though. We should do

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a rule change. You all come up with a rule change,

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>us four, you four, We come up with one. Okay,

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you come up with one. And what I'll do is

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<v Speaker 1>I'll rule good rule, bad rule. We'll do rule bad rule.

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<v Speaker 1>Seat And that sounds like a second good rule bad rule.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we need music for good rule, bad Rule? Or

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<v Speaker 1>are we just gonna leave it on? What kind of

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>music do you have in mind? I'll come up with

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<v Speaker 1>something special just for this special music for a good

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>rule bad Rule. I like it. Thanks for listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Apple Podcasts, or ever you get your podcast. The Knicks

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<v Speaker 1>are good? Are they kind of good? I mean, have

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>you even noticed something that? Can you smell it in

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.479
<v Speaker 1>the air? Because I haven't noticed this in about a decade,

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe over a decade. Knicks fans are out again. They're

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>out on the community, they're talking, they're on social media.

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Fritzie's wearing a Knick sweatshirt that he got for free,

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>probably an OH seven, and he hasn't worn since. I'm

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>guessing the Carmelo Anthony had to dig it back into

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the deep recesses of the closet. There was some cobwebs

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and some you know, a little bit of a mustiness

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>going up balls. We dusted off and we'll see what

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>happened to. But this is a good day, good day

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>to where the where the Knicks up. I think if

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you ask me to name Knicks, I'd probably say like

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>John Stark, Mark Jackson and Oakley and Ewing and people

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>like that. The Louis orr Roy Sparrow. I'm a Sixers fan.

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to put that, but but the Knicks

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>are not good. We all know this, right. They've beaten

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of load management or scrub teams. They're Julius

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Randall and seven G League players. But they don't need

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to be good, they just need to be not bad.

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>But they I mean, you have to understand. Off, these

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>guys were on the baker Field Jam in the Delaware

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>eighty seven Ers last year. They are not like a

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>robust NBA lineup seton. Don't take anything that Andrews saying

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>seriously right now, Okay, this is nothing more than a

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Sixers fan wanting the attention back on Philadelphia rather than

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>the New York names and a Sixers fan who lives

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn and likes to attach himself lightly to the nets. Correct,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as the Bucks aren't playing right, well, you

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>guys are right, we should get the Knicks talking because

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:32.959
<v Speaker 1>those five playoff games they play before bowing out will

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>go quickly, so we should get to talk in right.

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<v Speaker 1>They would kill to have five playoff games to see

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<v Speaker 1>what you did that quickly? Who hit the three? Coming

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>from a Lions fan, five playoff games sounds amazing. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>But isn't it like that with some franchises like the

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Oakland A's one eleven in a row, I don't know

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>if they're contender and the Phoenix Suns, you know they're

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>almost in first or they're right close to first. If

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>the relevancy makes you feel better as a fan, and

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you know you obviously want to win the title, relevancy

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>it just feels better, or do you, guys? Buy into

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>the fact that basketball is better. The NBA is better

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>when the Knicks are good, or the Celtics are good,

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>or in the NFL, the NFL is better when the

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are good, which hasn't happened for a while. Do

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>you guys buy that? I think I kind of do.

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I kind of do it. It's I think

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>that's sports are better when the bigger markets are doing

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>well and are getting taken down by smaller markets. Yeah,

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks are also easy to cover all the medias

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 1>within a couple of blocks, and then they have their

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>own network. Celebrities still go to their games when they stink,

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>and when they're good, every celebrity comes out of the woodwork.

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Mclovin's shaking this well. I feel like the NBA has

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>proven small markets could be big, like that everyone would

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>stayed up to watch the Warriors, and then when that

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>team broke apart, the ratings nose dived and everyone loved

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>when Lebron was in Cleveland. So I'm not sure you

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>need the big markets. I almost wonder if we're just

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>get old because people now would say, oh, why is

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>basketball better if the Knicks are good? The Knicks have

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>never been good. Why is that good? We can't refer

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>to San Francisco as a small market, no, well, Golden State,

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>is that the whole San Francisco? I don't know, because

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>you were out there, It's like, yeah, I mean they

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>were Oakland, but they were bad for so long, and

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>and Oakland a lot of times does get over overlooked,

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 1>like the Oakland a is eleven game winning streak. The

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>bigger story out in San Francisco and the Bay Area

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>is I'm sure the Giants exceeding expectations, haven't won eleven

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>in a row, but the Giants are the bigger club

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 1>out there. So that's like New York with the Nets

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and the Knicks, and the Nets are always the B

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>team to the Knicks. Yeah, you would never say Brooklyn

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 1>is a small market, but they are still overshadowed a

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Going back to the Knicks, it feels like,

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 1>like Mcluban said, they're not great, they're not contending, but

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 1>they feel like they have somewhat likable players. They don't

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:48.919
<v Speaker 1>have a bunch of overpaid guys who are past their prime,

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.919
<v Speaker 1>like No Offense, Penny Hardaway, Steve Francis. In the days

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>where they'd pay some guy after he got injured. You're

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>saying they're likable, likable, likable Knicks team. Yeah, you don't

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.399
<v Speaker 1>know them. Nobody knows except for you is Randall. But yeah,

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>likable Fritzie. If they lose three in a row, will

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>you will you put that? You'll go right back in

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the hand. And the likable mix you have to remove

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.280
<v Speaker 1>yourself from the owner, which seems to be a very

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 1>unlikable character. But you know, if you want to root

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>for the Knicks, it's also gonna pad the pockets of

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>mister Dolan, which some people prefer not to their moment

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>in the sun. We'll give him that, did you guys?

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Brainstorm any rule changes so h mclovin, Yeah, there's wait.

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:30.879
<v Speaker 1>I think for this game we have to take off

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the fumble out of the end zone. He's nobody on

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Earth likes that word. You know there is one person

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>on Earth who likes that sims. Yeah, he's done it

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>on this show with you guys. Yes, yeah, it's annoying. Okay,

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>So but mine is. There's a small penalty on a

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>kickoff at a putterer when the gunner runs out of bounds,

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's a fifteen yard penalty. That drives me insane.

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you guys know that rule where the guy the

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 1>guy who on the kickoff team runs out of bounds

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and he draws a flag because they say, if you

0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:59.280
<v Speaker 1>run out of bounds, you'll get a full head of steam.

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>It's totally, really nuts. So what you you want to

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 1>allow them to fully go as far out of bounds

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:05.399
<v Speaker 1>as they want and come back. Yeah, they can weave

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.240
<v Speaker 1>in out out of the coaching staff. I think that'd

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>be awesome. But second of all, I mean, it takes

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>a long time to run out of bounds. It's not

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>like you get this huge advantage anything to get less

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>flagged on punt plays. I will do anything for it,

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:20.760
<v Speaker 1>because it's the worst. If you allow that though, players

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:25.760
<v Speaker 1>who were on the sidelines can hit. Are you okay

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>with that? I'm totally I like the old Jets staff

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.479
<v Speaker 1>they used to form a wall and trip like three out. Yes,

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I say, make it all and play good rules. So

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm got to give that a good rule. You're approving

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 1>that one. I'm approving that rule. So basically everyone on

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 1>all fifty three on both sides are in play during

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the punt exactly if you're going to go on the sidelines.

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 1>You can do that, You're gonna get hit. You're gonna

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>just in. Coaches too, want to stick a foot out whatever. Yeah,

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.439
<v Speaker 1>the guys in the big jacket too, you know those guys.

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I like it. Good rule. All right, Well well done, Fritzie,

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>you going. Yes. I can't stand the running the guy

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to crush the pylon and to you know, on score,

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and then the penalties the other team gets it at

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the twenty yard line that you're getting penalized. I cannot stand.

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I think at the worst you got to put the

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>ball ten yards away or twenty yards away. Is you're

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about the fumble out of the end zone

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 1>touch back for the other team, right, well, I think,

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>which I think is way too harsh to penalty. Mclovin

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>just said that. I just said that we shouldn't even

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>discuss I thought you were talking more about the running

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.399
<v Speaker 1>out on the sidelines guy during a during a specialties play.

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't well, I said that I thought that rule even

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 1>I haven't done the time, I wasn't listening to the segment, wasn't.

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Although if we are going to put that into into play,

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say no, you know, what because we said

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 1>that that's not allowed. Bad rule change. I don't even

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>know what the rule change would be. Where would you

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:44.320
<v Speaker 1>where would you put the ball? If you're if you're,

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>if you were not, I're gonna make this could be

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:48.879
<v Speaker 1>the whole This could be the whole show. This could

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:52.279
<v Speaker 1>be the whole show. Uh. You know, I've always thought

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>with that rule, if we are going to do the

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>fumble out of the end zone whatever, dada da da,

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that you should get the ball back at

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:01.840
<v Speaker 1>like that the five yard line or something like that. Actually,

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know. I don't know. That seems

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>about reasonable, but you got to keep the ball. It

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 1>seems it seems very punitive to give the ball to

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the other team. But no, Fritzie, we're not even discussing

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>that one. No good rule or bad rule, Seaton, Do

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:18.439
<v Speaker 1>you have one? Yeah, I would change the rule where

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 1>on a punt or a kickoff you can't run out

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:23.879
<v Speaker 1>of bounds and come back in. I would do that. Sorry, No,

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I have a rule. What I would think you should

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 1>be able to do is trade draft picks for information.

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>So for example, right, so you're the forty nine ers

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:34.879
<v Speaker 1>and you call up the Jets and you're like, hey, look,

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a sixth round or if you just

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>tell me who you're taking, who are you taking number

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>two in the draft? And then I won't tell anybody.

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 1>But if I give you this sixth round pick, you

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 1>have to take the person you say, or I get

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 1>my pick back, okay, And then the Falcons at the

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>four spot could call up the forty nine ers and say,

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.359
<v Speaker 1>we'll give you a six if you tell us so

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>we could plan our strategy. And then they'd be like, well,

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>how about a fifth okay? Cool? And then everyone knows, yeah,

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 1>did you just trade? You could trade draft picks for

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>information if the other team is willing to do, which

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 1>the Bears could have done it a few years ago

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 1>with the nine Ers in your biscuit. It'd have to

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:07.479
<v Speaker 1>be more than you just get your pick back, though

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like you'd have I'll give you a

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.399
<v Speaker 1>fourth round pick for this information if you don't pick

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 1>that guy, though, I get a third rounder back. Okay, Yeah,

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>that's even better. Look at mclovin, But why don't you

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 1>just tell the team you're gonna take a guy who

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you know will already be gone as you're lying and

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>you can take it. You say, oh, we're gonna take

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>this guy who's going in the second round, so there's

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna be so bunch gamesmanship. Yeah, okay, I want to

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>see it play out. I want to see a playout,

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>good rule approved, seating your rules in. Yes, Pallie, all right,

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go quick. But I've brought this up a

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>long time ago and Dan kind of liked it. A

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 1>starting position player should have to handle all kicking on

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>a football team.