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Speaker 1: Second date update. Everybody has a different romantic strategy when

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Speaker 1: they're out and they see somebody they're attracted to. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: like jose will name drop himself before breaking down the

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Speaker 1: diet and migration patterns of Pacific. Soft Shell claims, Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, we can't.

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Speaker 2: Because it turns.

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Speaker 3: Not the worst part.

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Speaker 1: But I know a lot about fish.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we got Jeff, Why did you do that?

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Speaker 1: Alexis will shake her empty white cloth can in your direction,

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Speaker 1: hoping you'll buy her a new one. Do you like.

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Speaker 2: Today?

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Speaker 1: And Brooke, well, she's married, is not interested whatsoever? Wink

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Speaker 1: win And she is definitely not going to leave her

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Speaker 1: hotel room unlocked doing three oh seven wink wink wink.

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Speaker 1: Why does even the doorstop like the open? So again, guys,

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Speaker 1: don't dm us Brook is not available. Who is available

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Speaker 1: is actually one of our listeners, Josie. And apparently she

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Speaker 1: has a different strategy when it comes to meeting a guy. Josie,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Hi, thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Are you winking right now? Josie?

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Speaker 4: Am I winking? No?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't. Secret codes only leads to trouble.

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Speaker 1: Brook would know, so tell us about the guy. Apparently

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Speaker 1: you met someone when you were out recently. Who is it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So his name is Benjamin, and I actually believe

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Speaker 4: it or not met him on the train.

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Speaker 5: Oh interesting, like a long trip train or just like

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Speaker 5: in town subway situation.

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Speaker 4: In town subway situation, that's how I get to it

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Speaker 4: from work?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: Oh god, got it?

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Speaker 1: So did you pulled the Brook move of leaving the

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Speaker 1: hotel room card like a dot on the chair?

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Speaker 2: She's going to work?

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Speaker 1: Just stop, get out, you said? He said that you

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Speaker 1: have a strategy. I'm wondering what it is.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so not quite that. But here's what I have learned.

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Speaker 4: All I've noticed that the way that I can gauge

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Speaker 4: if someone's like attracted to me is if I get

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Speaker 4: as close as possible to them without actually interacting with them.

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Speaker 2: I'm really hoping that the train that you're on is crowded.

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Speaker 1: Zy woman, just in there's like forty empty seats and

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Speaker 1: you're standing right next to it.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm subtle enough. I hope I'm subtle. I

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Speaker 4: don't know. We'll find out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So look, how does that work?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I've been on the train with him a

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Speaker 4: bunch of times.

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Speaker 2: So so you've noticed him before? Interesting?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, So the first time I decided to use

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Speaker 4: my strategy, I got close to him enough but not

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Speaker 4: enough where he and I can make eye contact, right,

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Speaker 4: and ignored him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, ignore him closer like you're in the same now

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Speaker 2: but not. Yeah, and why don't you say anything?

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Speaker 1: Desperate people open their mouths and actually speak like hi, Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you gotta let the target come to you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, exactly. I feel it's all about the visibility.

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Speaker 2: Right, How many rides until you got close?

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Speaker 4: So okay, the second rides got a little bit closer

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Speaker 4: than the third ride. I sat right next to.

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Speaker 7: Him, charm.

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Speaker 1: It's like those cat videos where they like, pay away

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Speaker 1: for a second and you pan back your cap a

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Speaker 1: little bit closer, a little bit closer on his back.

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Speaker 2: Were you sitting at his lap by this time?

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Speaker 4: Not quite, but I'm sitting right next to him.

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Speaker 1: Did he notice you?

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 4: He noticed my jacket?

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Speaker 2: Oh? How do you know?

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Speaker 4: He complimented me on my jacket. He said, hey, nice jacket,

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Speaker 4: I like that jacket.

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Speaker 1: Oh what do you say?

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Speaker 4: I said, thank you? And continue to ignore.

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Speaker 5: It and continue to ignore, ignore, Wait, he's gonna think

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Speaker 5: you don't like him, like that was your opening?

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Speaker 4: You have headphones?

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Speaker 2: Are you just sitting there in silence facing forward?

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Speaker 4: At this point I knew that there was interest. So

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Speaker 4: then when I saw him the next time, he asked

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 2: Whoa? So he had spoken one sentence to you prior.

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Speaker 4: Well, then he said a little bit like, okay, it's

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Speaker 4: you again, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, like a little I mean, this is going to

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Speaker 1: help people in real life. This is how you meet

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Speaker 1: people in the real world. Get hard to get Like,

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Speaker 1: what happens next? At this point? Do you give in?

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Speaker 4: At this point I just prefaced by letting him know

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Speaker 4: how incredibly busy I am. But I could maybe squeez

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Speaker 4: him man after work?

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you don't want to know that you've been

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Speaker 1: slowly like stalking him, getting closer and closer to him.

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Speaker 5: On the train, and that your heart's about to explode

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Speaker 5: because the guy you can crush it on finally.

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Speaker 1: Asked you out plain cool?

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Speaker 2: Right, okay, so did you go after work?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 4: So we met at the train station and yeah, it

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Speaker 4: was a it was a quick fifteen minute situation.

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Speaker 2: Why so quick?

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Speaker 1: Probably because the train was coming, So I noticed.

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Speaker 4: That, like he is kind of I guess inexperienced, it seems.

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Speaker 2: Why do you say that.

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Speaker 4: Because he was he seemed a little uncomfortable, you know,

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Speaker 4: like he didn't know what to do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Well.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that was confusing for him in its own right

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Speaker 1: because he was so used to you being cold then before.

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Speaker 1: But I'm assuming that you guys exchanged numbers after that

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Speaker 1: and have stayed in touch. So what's the latest.

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Speaker 4: So we did exchange numbers, but now whenever I see him,

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Speaker 4: he's acting strength. He's acting like like it never happened.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Oh interesting, And you're okay with the inexperienced part.

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Speaker 5: It sounds like I kind.

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Speaker 4: Of thought it was cute, you know, like she just

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Speaker 4: doesn't look like he's been on a ton of dates,

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Speaker 4: which you know is actually a good thing because like

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Speaker 4: a lot of the guys on the app seem like

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Speaker 4: may's been on three a day day.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he was just really really nervous on that first

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Speaker 1: much as you were. Yeah, so maybe he's been waiting

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Speaker 1: and trying to figure out the right way to contact you.

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna jump in and do it for him, though,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna call him and try and get you your

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Speaker 1: second date update right after this. Appreciate it, hold on

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Speaker 1: second date update. They say sometimes silence speaks louder than words. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: never understood that, But yeah, Josie, it's not just a quote.

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Speaker 1: That's her entire seduction strategy. I believe this where get

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Speaker 1: I understand why whenever I try to ignore brook at work,

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Speaker 1: she just wants to talk to me more and more

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Speaker 1: and more, flagging me down, asking me all sorts of questions.

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Speaker 2: To you, I only said, how is your weekend?

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Speaker 6: Wow?

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Speaker 1: All up in my business all over again. And that's

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Speaker 1: how one of our listeners, Josie, met a guy named

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Speaker 1: Benjamin on the train not too long ago. Over the

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Speaker 1: course of several trips, she got closer and closer and

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Speaker 1: closer to him till she was basically in his lap

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Speaker 1: on a coffee date right before their next train. And

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Speaker 1: I can feel Brooks staring at me this entire time,

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Speaker 1: wanting to say something, What is it? What do you want?

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Speaker 2: I'm just listening to what I'm not twisted. Okay, talk

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Speaker 2: so much. Just get to the point.

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Speaker 1: Okay, my point has been made that he's not calling

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the bad point.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Now what would you like to say?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. How are you feeling, Josie? No, obviously

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Speaker 1: She doesn't want to talk to if she wants to listen,

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Speaker 1: she's ignoring you.

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Speaker 5: Now I want to know, like, is she nervous or

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Speaker 5: does she think like they only spent fifteen minutes together.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what can go so wrong in fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: Don't downplay her amazing date. Bro, that's really really.

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Speaker 2: I'm just done with you. You can talk.

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Speaker 4: Call the guy, Yes, call the guy.

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Speaker 2: Call the guy. How does that feel?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 1: I like to, you know, have meaningful conversations and dive

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Speaker 1: into people's feel All right, now, we'll just get right

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Speaker 1: to business and called Benjamin. I'm gonna dial his number.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if he answers. Here we go. Hello, Hey,

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Speaker 1: is this Benjamin? This is a not just one person,

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Speaker 1: a whole radio show on the phone to talk to.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Well, we're doing something called a second date. Update because

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Speaker 1: one of our listeners has been trying to get a

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Speaker 1: hold of you, and apparently she wants to see you

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Speaker 1: again on a real date.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the right way to say this.

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Speaker 5: That makes sense, like they only went you only went

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Speaker 5: to coffee for fifteen minutes with her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't sure if you would consider this a

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Speaker 1: date or not. There's a girl from the train named Josie.

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Speaker 6: You said it's a date. I know, go from the

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Speaker 6: train named Josie. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well I didn't want to label it a date. But

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Speaker 1: apparently you guys have hung out seen each other a

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Speaker 1: few times and had coffee together. That's the date we're referring.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we ride the same train line and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're in a relationship.

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Speaker 5: Okay, why didn't you consider the coffee.

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Speaker 2: Meet up a date?

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Speaker 6: Well, I guess, like technically, like we made an appointment

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Speaker 1: A lot of people would see that as two people

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Speaker 1: meeting up and having a drink or whatever together. That's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, But I mean like normally there's sort of like,

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Speaker 6: I guess date vibes if you will, Oh.

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Speaker 2: You didn't get anything vibes friendly.

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Speaker 6: Well, I just didn't even know they were supposed to

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Speaker 6: be chemistry there. So the deal is, my mom's birthday

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Speaker 6: is coming up, and I know this is it's like

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Speaker 6: a weird intro. But he this girl has like, I

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Speaker 6: don't know how to describe it other than like a

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Speaker 6: very similar style to my mom.

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Speaker 5: What did you just say, Josie has a similar style

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Speaker 5: to your mom?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw up.

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Speaker 2: I cannot think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hold on, let's hear him out.

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Speaker 6: Maybe not like in a g Like just I noticed

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Speaker 6: she was wearing this jacket that my mom has the

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Speaker 6: exact same one of Oh not the jacket.

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Speaker 2: Ross is just insulting. Yeah, Gross's not into her, It's

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Speaker 2: just okay.

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Speaker 1: Josie mentioned us that you brought up her jacket looking

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Speaker 1: really nice when you guys are on the train together.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking about?

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Speaker 6: No? Yeah, so I noticed her on the train a

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Speaker 1: This was an information site.

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Speaker 6: Oh, that might be a good place to go.

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Speaker 1: Did you tell Josie during the coffee experience that you

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Speaker 6: I don't know if i'd mentioned specifically that we talked about,

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Speaker 6: I don't really think of it as a date.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Somebody who may have seen it as a little bit

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Speaker 6: I mean, hello, you never seem interested.

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Speaker 1: Hello, that's Josie.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no, your mom is cool.

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Speaker 1: It's possible maybe his mom is some sort of model.

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Speaker 4: Why didn't you just ask me where I got the

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Speaker 6: Has that jacket.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's kind of funny. He was probably taking your

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Speaker 5: I bet his mom was really like maybe a teenager

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's product of a teenage pregnancy.

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Speaker 6: I know that's not true. Okay, it's like bohemian style.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what you would call it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's okay, that's true. At no point that people, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, what Josie probably wants to hear from you, Benjamin,

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Speaker 6: Why am I What did I do?

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Speaker 1: Well? You said that she has the style of your mom?

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Speaker 6: Would you rather my mom has your style?

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Speaker 7: I don't know, nobody, Okay, can we get off the

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Speaker 4: I was genuinely like interested. You seemed like a really

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Speaker 2: Well, I think he is inexperienced. I mean gifts for

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think I'm an experienced blake. You didn't

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Speaker 4: Why do you think I wanted to have coffee with you?

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Speaker 1: She was playing hard to get with you.

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Speaker 6: She didn't even want to have coffee with me. Point,

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Speaker 6: She's like maybe I can fit you in. I was

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Speaker 1: Between the lines that means she likes you.

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Speaker 4: Telling you that I'm gonna make time for you should

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Speaker 2: You need to be real.

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Speaker 6: Clear, I don't have that, dakoder Rig. I thought you

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Speaker 5: I mean she obviously you know now that she likes you, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so put all the mom stuff aside. Do you

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Speaker 6: I haven't really even thought about it. Like, all I

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Speaker 1: That could be sexy in something.

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Speaker 6: Could be No, it's not like that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well I'm doing more damage than I am helping.

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Speaker 2: Did you like, donate the jacket and then maybe get something.

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Speaker 4: I'm not changing my wardrobe because of him.

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Speaker 6: No, you shouldn't change it. I mean, you look amazing

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Speaker 2: She's never going to be able to wear that jacket again.

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Speaker 1: Just so you know, she'll find something out even hotter

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Speaker 1: day if you want to do this, Benjamin, what do

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Speaker 4: If not, don't even ask him?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think she's going to go home.

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Speaker 1: You're done with it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if there's coming back from this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Josie, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I really didn't see it as what you were shooting for.

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Speaker 3: So I apologize, And like, they just don't allow it

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Speaker 4: Oh no, it won't be. I'm probably gonna start taking

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Speaker 1: Oh but that's like ignoring him. And when she ignores someone,

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Speaker 1: it means that she likes I.

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Speaker 4: Think throwing that. From now on, I'm never using that again.

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Speaker 1: Rook Jeffrey in the Morning. This second date update was

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Speaker 1: powered by Talbots. Stop it somethings to embrace your inner mom.

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Speaker 1: Put on that floral button up blouse under a handstitch

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Speaker 1: sweater vest, and then embrace the sexy. Yeah, why is

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 2: You mean no one wants to be compared to their mother.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, I would like to ask that we destigmatize

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Speaker 1: the idea that moms aren't sexy. Okay, I don't like

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Speaker 5: Jeffrey, you cannot be attracted to someone who looks like

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if your own mother is heid clue.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's your opinions.

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Speaker 2: If you're a hot mom text in the seventy five nine,

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Speaker 2: are you trying to get hot moms attetion? That is

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Speaker 2: not what this is about.

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Speaker 1: Solidarity in numbers. And if we can't agree on that,

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Speaker 1: at least we can agree on this, we'll help you

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Speaker 1: with your dating life.

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Speaker 1: No't matter who your mom is, no matter what they

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Speaker 2: All right, heiy Klum's daughter, give us a call.

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Speaker 1: That's right, email the show. We'll call that person who's

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Speaker 1: not calling you back, and go check out all of

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Speaker 1: our second dates wherever you get your podcasts at Broken

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey