WEBVTT - BA Q&A: Start The Revolution..Or Don't ft.Ana 

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the b a q a a the

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<v Speaker 1>v a q a, which say the big a q

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<v Speaker 1>a man day the b a q a with tipp

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<v Speaker 1>and a the b a qa all right, so we

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<v Speaker 1>have a special listener on today. Her name is Anna,

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<v Speaker 1>and we didn't get any questions beforehand, right right man.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we don't know what she's gonna askol that she

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<v Speaker 2>has fabulous curls and it's really nice, like our curls

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<v Speaker 2>are papping, so keeping que Anna. No, I'm just joking.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to come on and give us like

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<v Speaker 1>a mini introduction of yourself and then you can go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and ask you a question.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>So, yes, my name is Anna, a longtime super Over listener.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to say thirty percent whole okay, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 4>you know almost there.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And the more I read your book, the more mad

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<v Speaker 4>I get on my parents, like yeah, you can teach

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<v Speaker 4>me this, okay, that's okay. We don't just appear, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and mindy, I am all over. I was I wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>your oh my goshiating okay class and I'm sorry negotiating masterclass. Awesome. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it got me past the panic of thinking about maybe

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<v Speaker 4>possibly negotiating.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm almost there. Almost.

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<v Speaker 4>I am a new grad nurse. I well, yes, no grad.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been a nurse for about a year, and so

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<v Speaker 4>that my question is career oriented and you how to

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<v Speaker 4>ask it's I. I love my job, super duper absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>love it. I I feel like it's something that I

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<v Speaker 4>probably did in my past life with how fulfailed. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel but a little disappointed in it. I just keep

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<v Speaker 4>looking around and I don't see the melanin anyway. I

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<v Speaker 4>saw the met London in school, and now that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in it and the positions that I'm in, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>just been a little a little bit heartbreaking. I'm lying,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a lot, which is what what the question that

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<v Speaker 4>I sent over was about, which I'm hoping you guys

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<v Speaker 4>can provide some insight because you, I know, you were

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<v Speaker 4>a rad school teacher and then working in tech. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like you guys might be able to relate. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like the higher you go, the less of us you see,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's just it gets kind of lonely, and I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if it ever happened to you guys. You

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<v Speaker 4>kind of get cold, switching gets kind of tiring, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you get burned out at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, it shouldn't take so much.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm kind of having a hard time starting these conversations.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of hard to say, like, hey, where's the melanin?

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<v Speaker 1>Like where so that this is your question, ana, because

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't heard it beforehand. This is like a little

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<v Speaker 1>surprise for us.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that is my yes, you know it's I

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<v Speaker 4>tend to just ask what I'm thinking, but you know

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<v Speaker 4>that when you're in corporate or when you're in a

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<v Speaker 4>more professional setting, you have to soften your speech. So

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<v Speaker 4>I am having a hard time trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 4>how to navigate those conversations because I really do want

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<v Speaker 4>to just go in and say, like where are the

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<v Speaker 4>black nurses? Like why are we not hiring? There's black

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<v Speaker 4>excellence and black women are insanely amazing, And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I always use dNaM like the example, like when a

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<v Speaker 4>little black girl comes in, I want her to see

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<v Speaker 4>herself in the people that are giving her care.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a home birth last year. My midwife was black.

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<v Speaker 4>That was very important to me, and I didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>everything I was lacking until I had care from a

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<v Speaker 4>provider that looked like me, so now that is very

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<v Speaker 4>close to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very every.

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<v Speaker 5>Day that I go in, I feel like, where are

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<v Speaker 5>my peers?

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<v Speaker 4>And don't get me wrong, I work somewhere with some amazing,

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<v Speaker 4>out of this world people that I you know, every

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<v Speaker 4>single day that I get to work, I'm inspired by

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<v Speaker 4>other people that I work with, and it's great. But

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<v Speaker 4>I also feel like we're doing our community so disservice

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<v Speaker 4>because they don't match the people.

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<v Speaker 2>That we wanted to ask you, do you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>the community that you serve is it more diverse than

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<v Speaker 2>the staff at this hospital? That is concerning you would

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<v Speaker 2>want the staff to reflect the community in some way.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm shocked when my my husband's dad was in the

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<v Speaker 2>hospital and they live. Where do you live, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Think we have Illinois nearby Chicago?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I was shocked when Enrique's dad went to

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital and no one spoke Spanish, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the freaking bronx. I didn't understand, like the doctor, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of nurses, but the doctor who like he

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<v Speaker 2>was having you. I don't want to put business out there,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was a serious situation. The doctor didn't speak

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<v Speaker 2>Spanish and it's so much pressure on anyway, I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the so I I'm not entire really surprised, And

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<v Speaker 2>my first thought is, in that case, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be important for you. And you're early in

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<v Speaker 2>your career too, You're gonna have to vote with your

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<v Speaker 2>feet a little bit in the sense that choose to

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<v Speaker 2>work places where hopefully you have the choice, you have

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<v Speaker 2>those options where you can find a place that does

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<v Speaker 2>have diversity and make that one of the first questions

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<v Speaker 2>you ask when you interview and take a tour and

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<v Speaker 2>look around and see if it reflects the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>environment where you want to work. That will solve like

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<v Speaker 2>down the line, but right now, I understand it's uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>At the same time, I would say, if it's really

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<v Speaker 2>bothering you, I would bring it up and maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>can find a way to do that that feels safe

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<v Speaker 2>to you, whether it's going to Do you have a

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<v Speaker 2>in a hospital. Do you have like an HR business

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<v Speaker 2>partner or someone dedicated to the nursing staff or a union.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and we have huddles, you know where we meet

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<v Speaker 4>with our directors and you know, the staff leadership is

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<v Speaker 4>very present it's just I don't know if it has

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<v Speaker 4>happened to you ladies. When you bring some thing up

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<v Speaker 4>to a demographic that's outside of yours immediately, even though

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<v Speaker 4>you're not saying directly like hey, you are keeping black women.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of the workspace.

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<v Speaker 4>Immediately, people just feel they need to defend themselves kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like they're like, hey, no, but not me. And

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<v Speaker 4>I I'm having a hard time passing that wall, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You've tried and they've kind of shut you down and

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<v Speaker 2>been defensive, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, without saying yes you could, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like I understand it's uncomfortable, But I've asked, like,

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<v Speaker 4>are our recruiters like we are they trained to be

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<v Speaker 4>cognizant of what is the resume test?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they? You know? Like are we name checking people?

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<v Speaker 4>Like are we not calling staff, you know, applicants because

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<v Speaker 4>the name sounds too difficult to pronounce, or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>things that we know happen and keep us out of,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, spaces where we deserve to be.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's seems to it was draining. It was it

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<v Speaker 3>was a draining experience.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt defeated afterwards, and it's it's just sad to

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<v Speaker 4>see like I have the luxury. I'm Latina, and I

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<v Speaker 4>have the luxury I like to pass when I in

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<v Speaker 4>times when I not necessarily like I felt like I

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<v Speaker 4>needed to.

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<v Speaker 3>But I have the luxury of being like a chameleon.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been part of certain conversations where I'm not by

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<v Speaker 4>the people that are there. You know, I'm not seeing

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<v Speaker 4>as a black or as Afro Latina. So the kind

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<v Speaker 4>of little nuances that I pick up on make it

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<v Speaker 4>clear that, you know, if they don't know, and it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't seem like they're receptive to knowing either.

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<v Speaker 2>We deserve a little breaking break. All right, let's take

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<v Speaker 2>a break.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though you might not win the battle, you could

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<v Speaker 1>certainly start the revolution by the questions that you're asking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So, I mean sometimes I think we feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we have to do the whole war. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>had a conversation today with a woman who was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much to be done, and we got to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, we got to do that. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I have to do all that

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<v Speaker 1>because it's been doing, you know, but these are fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>years helped a lot of black women. It might be

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<v Speaker 1>time to pass the baton, like, I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>see it through all the way to the end that

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<v Speaker 1>you know that. I think we're all tasked to just

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<v Speaker 1>do what we're here to do. And you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>not likely to your point, you're going to win the

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<v Speaker 1>whole war. But the fact you're even bringing it up

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<v Speaker 1>is a good start. But the question about refilling your cup,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there are there Black Nurses Associations or Latina

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<v Speaker 1>Nurses Association that you can join because that's always a

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<v Speaker 1>really great place where you could feel seen and heard,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're probably going to offer like my mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a nurse for I don't even know thirty forty years.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they can offer resources, and they could also

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<v Speaker 1>offer suggestions, you know, or just even power and might

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<v Speaker 1>behind like oh girl, girl, you know, thanks lend us.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to roll up and say something, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's not for you to fight alone by yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really proud of you for having the initial conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>but get your backup. You know that you're not in

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<v Speaker 1>this by yourself because there are a lot of black

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<v Speaker 1>and brown nurses and at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nurses are all it have been and still

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<v Speaker 1>are in super high demand and so you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your voice is not as your voice is stronger than

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even realize.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you said that because I can feel

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<v Speaker 2>the weight on you, like you really feel like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this huge it is a it's systemic, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>so much bigger than you are. But are those those

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<v Speaker 2>organizations like do you do you feel like you have

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<v Speaker 2>a community? Do you are you able to lean on

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<v Speaker 2>other black and brown nurses, like find your tribe?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm starting to.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm reaching outside of you know, the immediate community that

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<v Speaker 4>I have, and I you know, I found some and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we have had those conversations, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>we come in and we see staff in dis apartment

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<v Speaker 4>and this apartment they're black, and then it's less and less.

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<v Speaker 3>As you get higher.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was nice to hear that I'm not by myself.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, you know it's no let's roll up like

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<v Speaker 4>that's like you said, I'll do some more outreach. And

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<v Speaker 4>because I get like, you're right, they.

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<v Speaker 5>Are out here.

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<v Speaker 3>I graduated with them, I was inspired by them.

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<v Speaker 2>And now where'd they go? I want to know, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like where y'all at? And is it good over there?

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<v Speaker 2>Because we talk. Yes, they'll let you know where the

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<v Speaker 2>good good is. They'll be like, yeah, come over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Girls lit like they love us here like.

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<v Speaker 3>For fine organists.

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<v Speaker 1>Because my mother was part of a black nurse's organization

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<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey. That's why I shared that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>I was part of a National Association of Black journalists

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<v Speaker 2>for the first ten years of my career.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are organizations specifically for that. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't have to go it alone because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>easy for her either. She's also part of I think a

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<v Speaker 1>Nigerian nurses association.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl. They got association for everything, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they got for Latino one exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>I need to work with a group that nows is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you got to watch and go. It's day one.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't touch it, you know. So you know, hopefully i'll

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<v Speaker 4>get there. But and then you know, once I do

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<v Speaker 4>get there, I'll make it a point to pull everyone

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<v Speaker 4>else with because as much as I would love to

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<v Speaker 4>be in a room where those decisions are made, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not made for politics.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have it in me.

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<v Speaker 2>I just now A lot of women tell me that

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<v Speaker 2>you never know because you asked, what do you do

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<v Speaker 2>to heal yourself and refaill your cup? And one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best things for me was working to get into

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<v Speaker 2>a leadership role so I could hire more of us.

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<v Speaker 2>And it didn't take you know, sometimes it doesn't take

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<v Speaker 2>as much work and as many politics. If you find

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<v Speaker 2>the right company or the right fit, you can do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But like even if you can get closer to that

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<v Speaker 2>decision making table just so that you can be at it,

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<v Speaker 2>like you can have impact fright where you are. And

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<v Speaker 2>like Tiffany was saying, hey, did I change the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that there's you know, very few people of color at

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<v Speaker 2>the top in fintech? No, but I sure did hire

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<v Speaker 2>you know, over a dozen bipop staff while I was

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<v Speaker 2>there to make sure they got great raises and I

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<v Speaker 2>was able to care and put you know, fix wage

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<v Speaker 2>gaps and things like that. And I feel really proud

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<v Speaker 2>of that. And I think that if we, just, like

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany said, focus on what you can do and what

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<v Speaker 2>power you have, take some of the weight off of

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<v Speaker 2>the world and just remind yourself you're doing the best

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<v Speaker 2>you can. You're only one person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I'm just rid of you, Anna, And we

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<v Speaker 1>love having our listeners on.

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<v Speaker 2>I love getting to ask follow up questions. I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>dying too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes now and if you want to be in a

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<v Speaker 1>hot seat like Anna you already know well hopefully you

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<v Speaker 1>know hit us up on ig We want you to

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<v Speaker 1>leave us a recording of your question. We can have

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<v Speaker 1>you in virtual studio and you can ask your career,

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<v Speaker 1>your business, your personal finance, just your growth questions overall

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<v Speaker 1>and manager and I will do our best to pour

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<v Speaker 1>into you. So hopefully, Anna, you know you've taken away

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<v Speaker 1>a little glimmer of hope and that your homework is

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<v Speaker 1>to do your googles and find you a nurses association,

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<v Speaker 1>a club, a something you know related to your to

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<v Speaker 1>your field that cater specifically to who you are, you

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<v Speaker 1>know and how you want to show up and then

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<v Speaker 1>lean in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, y, thanks for coming on and I'm such a

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<v Speaker 2>pleasure to meet you. Yes, hey, ba fam, we could

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<v Speaker 2>not do this show without your support or the support

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<v Speaker 2>of our team behind the scenes. The Brown Emission podcast

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<v Speaker 2>is produced by Cumulus Podcast Network. It's edited by the

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<v Speaker 2>is our in house tech guru and I am Bandy

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