Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody.
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hoard and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast.
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Speaker 2: As the Bengals wrap up the preseason and turn their
Speaker 2: attention to the games that count, beginning with a regular
Speaker 2: season opener at Cleveland. Coming up, you'll hear radio replays
Speaker 2: from Saturday's two point loss at Washington, locker room, comments
Speaker 2: from players and coaches, and Dave Lappamill join me for
Speaker 2: postgame analysis. Then, in this week's fun Facts Conversation, we'll
Speaker 2: get to know at defensive end who grew up rooting
Speaker 2: for the New York Giants and wears Lawrence Taylor's old number.
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Speaker 2: members of the media that turned out to be horribly wrong.
Speaker 2: I thought about it this week while preparing for the
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Washington game, because if you remember the twenty twenty draft,
Speaker 2: quite a few people expressed the opinion that the Bengals
Speaker 2: should not draft Joe Burrow with a number one pick,
Speaker 2: they should take defensive end Chase Young. With all due
Speaker 2: respect to Young, who has been to a Pro Bowl,
Speaker 2: I think everybody would agree that the Bengals got it right.
Speaker 2: You can still find those freezing cold takes on the Internet,
Speaker 2: including a radio show appearance by none other than Carson Palmer,
Speaker 2: who made the case that the Bengal should take the
Speaker 2: pass rusher since they already had Andy Dalton at quarterback.
Speaker 2: All due respect to the Red Rifle, who's been to
Speaker 2: three Pro Bowls, I think everybody would agree that the
Speaker 2: Bengals got it right. Now, let's get to Saturday's preseason
Speaker 2: finale at FedEx Field. On their first twenty two possessions
Speaker 2: of the preseason, the Bengals did not score an offensive touchdown.
Speaker 2: That streak ended on their final drive last week in Atlanta,
Speaker 2: and on their first drive in Washington, the Bengals found
Speaker 2: the end zone again. Bengals do not have a touchdown
Speaker 2: pass yet in the preseason, they'll send two receivers out
Speaker 2: to each side of the formation. Browning catches a shoulder
Speaker 2: high snap, scanning the field, throws over them all, leaping
Speaker 2: catch by Yo Si Vosh touchdown, and andre Yosi Vosh
Speaker 2: is doing the gritty Jamar Chase style in the back
Speaker 2: of the end zone. Jake Browning was in for the
Speaker 2: first two series and went six for six for forty
Speaker 2: two yards. In that touchdown. He appears to have wrapped
Speaker 2: up the backup quarterback job and spoke to Dave Lapham
Speaker 2: after the game.
Speaker 3: Play about as high level as you could possibly play
Speaker 3: in a competitive situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you're we're gonna play perfect. But I
Speaker 4: feel pretty good about what I put on tape and
Speaker 4: all that, and practice has been going well, so we'll
Speaker 4: see those thing shakes out and yeah, it's always a
Speaker 4: good feling film like you played well and put your
Speaker 4: best so forward.
Speaker 3: You feel like you're seeing the field really well. I
Speaker 3: mean you' getting the ball out of your hand pretty quickly. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it helps to be in my third year
Speaker 4: in this offense. Watch Joe operate a lot and be
Speaker 4: really engaged throughout the last couple of years on Peace
Speaker 4: squad and see how he operates and try and mimic
Speaker 4: it because it obviously works for him.
Speaker 3: What about this offense? What are the expectations do you
Speaker 3: think for this offensive football team this year?
Speaker 4: I mean that's more of a Joe question, but I
Speaker 4: think always the expectation offense is going to be high,
Speaker 4: and the expectation in the locker room for offense and
Speaker 4: defenses is high and high expectations.
Speaker 1: But one game at a.
Speaker 3: Time, graduations on big performances. Thank you.
Speaker 2: It was seven nothing Bengals after a quarter, but veteran
Speaker 2: Washington quarterback Jacoby Brissett tied the game in the second,
Speaker 2: moves up in the pocket, avoids a hit, fires deep downfield.
Speaker 2: It's got a wide open receiver at the ten who
Speaker 2: makes the catch, spins away and takes it into the
Speaker 2: end zone for a touchdown. Mitchell Timsley with a touchdown
Speaker 2: catch for Washington.
Speaker 3: And Jordan Battle is the one who missed the tackle
Speaker 3: at the five yard line. He tried to put a
Speaker 3: pretty big hit on him at that point. Don't try
Speaker 3: to put a crushing glow on him, just grab him
Speaker 3: and get him on the ground.
Speaker 2: Trevor Simeon took over at quarterback on the Bengals third
Speaker 2: drive and promptly drove the team into field goal range
Speaker 2: for Evan McPherson. Then again, Evan is within range as
Speaker 2: soon as he walks into the stadium, The snap, the placement,
Speaker 2: and the kick a high spinning, end over end kick
Speaker 2: and it is good from fifty eight yards away from
Speaker 2: Money Mack and the Bengals take ten to seven lead,
Speaker 2: and it looked like they would add to that lead
Speaker 2: the next time they got the ball. As the Bengals
Speaker 2: drove from their own fourteen to the Washington twenty six
Speaker 2: with twenty three seconds left in the half, Simeon fakes left,
Speaker 2: throws it deep, and it is pated around and picked
Speaker 2: off in the end zone by Washington Chase Whittaker winds
Speaker 2: up with a football after it got deflected. Although the
Speaker 2: Bengals did not score on that drive, they got a
Speaker 2: good look at an undrafted rookie running back out of
Speaker 2: East Tennessee State who did not get the ball in
Speaker 2: the first two preseason games Jacob Sailors. He finished with
Speaker 2: nine carries for twenty seven yards and added two catches
Speaker 2: for fourteen more. He also had a long run wiped
Speaker 2: out by a penalty. I spoke to him after the game.
Speaker 2: How did it feel to finally get that opportunity?
Speaker 1: You know? It was fun?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was great gratefulfillings as being out there after
Speaker 5: just preparing for so long and as us waiting for
Speaker 5: an opportunity.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: And I love the game of football, regardless of if
Speaker 5: I got the ball in my hands or not. But
Speaker 5: I'm confident that's what I do best as a football player,
Speaker 5: So I was I'm just.
Speaker 6: Blessed that I got to display that on this type
Speaker 6: of stage.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you were. You know, the butterflies were going
Speaker 2: before you got that tap on the shoulder and they
Speaker 2: said go on in there and show us what you
Speaker 2: can do. What was the feeling like when they gave
Speaker 2: you the green light and you knew you were going
Speaker 2: in the.
Speaker 5: Game, feeling this incredible focus. You know, let's make sure
Speaker 5: this is the one opportunity that I've prepared essentially since
Speaker 5: I was five years old for, and I just wanted
Speaker 5: to make sure that I left it all out on
Speaker 5: the field, a model that got me where I am
Speaker 5: today is no doubt, and I just wanted to make
Speaker 5: sure when I walked off the field, I left no
Speaker 5: doubt and just being the best teammate, I could be
Speaker 5: the best player everything representation of the Bengals organization.
Speaker 6: And I'm confident that I displayed that.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Jacob Sailors. You had some good runs.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately the best one got knocked out by a penalty
Speaker 2: at twenty seven yard run. But as my broadcast partner
Speaker 2: Dave Lapham pointed out, that film still exists. Yes, sir,
Speaker 2: the Bengals and every team in the league is going
Speaker 2: to see what you did on that run.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and uh, I'm just grateful that I got that
Speaker 5: opportunity and uh, let let the my my talents take over.
Speaker 5: I'm just blessed that my office a line was able
Speaker 5: to clear away for me and the receiver's block well downfield.
Speaker 5: So that's what it takes for a team to have
Speaker 5: a successful play, and I'm just blessed that I was
Speaker 5: in that situation at that time.
Speaker 2: Did your heart drop when when you heard that there
Speaker 2: was a flag?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 5: You know it wasn't so much that a job, you know,
Speaker 5: just upset, a little disappointed, but at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, it.
Speaker 1: Was grateful to be honest.
Speaker 2: So next forty eight hours, seventy two hours or nerve
Speaker 2: wracking time for everybody in your position throughout the NFL,
Speaker 2: how are you going to dealing with for the next
Speaker 2: few days.
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna encourage myself through the grace of God,
Speaker 5: talk to people that helped got me to where I
Speaker 5: am today, and without them I'd be going crazy, you know,
Speaker 5: just being in this situation, the doubt that naturally creeps
Speaker 5: in and not the not knowing. But I'm just gonna
Speaker 5: engolve myself and the grace of God and whatever he
Speaker 5: sees fit, he's.
Speaker 1: Going to carry it out, and I'm okay with him.
Speaker 2: Quite a good show and tape. Congratulations, appreciate it. That's
Speaker 2: running back Jacob Sailors. The Bengals fell behind for the
Speaker 2: first time in the third quarter when former Georgia quarterback
Speaker 2: Jake from who should replace Aaron Rodgers in State Farm
Speaker 2: ads so it could be Jake from State Farm through
Speaker 2: this touchdown pass first and goal less than a yard
Speaker 2: away for the Commanders from Catches a shotgun snap, throws
Speaker 2: a pass out to the right and the wide open
Speaker 2: receiver makes the catch for the Washington td It is
Speaker 2: Bryson Tremaine, who had five yards of separation over near
Speaker 2: the forward right pylon. At the end of the third quarter,
Speaker 2: it was Washington fourteen Cincinnati ten. In the fourth, Simeon's
Speaker 2: final drivet quarterback ended with a short field goal by
Speaker 2: McPherson to make it fourteen thirteen. But Jake from State
Speaker 2: Farm I can't stop saying it struck again from will
Speaker 2: look to throw his pass over the middle cut for
Speaker 2: the touchdown by tight end Brandon Dillon.
Speaker 3: Well, the Bengals just played zone defense at the seven
Speaker 3: yard line. Everybody just dropped back inside the goal line.
Speaker 3: I mean they tried to form a pick of fence
Speaker 3: at the goal line basically, and you know there were
Speaker 3: holes there. Receivers just run down and hook it up
Speaker 3: between two defenders and its touchdown pass.
Speaker 2: The two Washington quarterbacks finished with three touchdown passes, no picks,
Speaker 2: and a passer rating of one twenty point eight against
Speaker 2: the Bengals secondary that was light on cornerbacks, Like all
Speaker 2: of the starters on both sides of the ball, Chitabayo, Wooge,
Speaker 2: Cam Taylor, brit and Mike Hilton didn't play. Additionally, Dj Turner,
Speaker 2: Sidney Jones, and Marvel Tell were out with minor injuries
Speaker 2: that left three corners dj Ivy, Alan George and Jalen Davis,
Speaker 2: and the Bengals pulled Davis early in the game to
Speaker 2: make sure that he didn't get hurt. Thirty three year
Speaker 2: old Mike Thomas, who's been a safety for the bulk
Speaker 2: of his twelve NFL seasons, played most of the game
Speaker 2: out of position at slot corner. Dave Lapham shares his
Speaker 2: thoughts on Mike Thomas's value later in the podcast. Down
Speaker 2: by eight with ten minutes to go, the Bengals turned
Speaker 2: to third string quarterback Reed Senate, who was added to
Speaker 2: the roster after Joe Burrows strained his calf on the
Speaker 2: second day of training camp. Sinnate finished the preseason tied
Speaker 2: for the team lead in touchdown passes. He catches a
Speaker 2: shotgun snap, He's gonna throw it high end, gut him,
Speaker 2: nobody near shut With Jackson touchdown, Bengals a thirty four
Speaker 2: yard touchdown strike. Now the Bengals can go for two
Speaker 2: and try to tie the score.
Speaker 3: Boy, you talk about a blown coverage man Chevitz, I
Speaker 3: mean he was twenty yards open.
Speaker 2: It was one of those plays where the receiver is
Speaker 2: so open that you worry that he's going to drop
Speaker 2: the ball. Here's Shadwick Jackson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the hard ones for sure.
Speaker 6: You know ran my route.
Speaker 8: I seen it kind of blowing the cover as I
Speaker 8: knew I was wide open, as I saw in the ball,
Speaker 8: and there I got to do after that as was focus.
Speaker 1: On that and you know, get his own.
Speaker 2: Can you describe the feeling of catching an NFL touchdown
Speaker 2: pass even though it was a preseason game.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was a great feeling, no matter the circumstances
Speaker 8: of the preseason regular season. And like I said before,
Speaker 8: these got just give me a chance. Fan was a
Speaker 8: great team with a lot of great teammates, so it.
Speaker 1: Was very fun.
Speaker 2: Jackson finished the preseason with nine catches for one hundred
Speaker 2: and twelve yards and as a strong candidate to make
Speaker 2: the practice squad. The Bengals failed on the two point
Speaker 2: conversion attempt and trailed twenty one to nineteen with six
Speaker 2: and a half minutes to go, and the Bengals defense
Speaker 2: get the ball back for the offense on third down
Speaker 2: and nine near midfield, drops back to throw against the
Speaker 2: format rush. He gets head and sacked brought down. Raymond
Speaker 2: Johnson was there. Gunter was nearby. The Bengals defense gets
Speaker 2: a huge sack and Washington will punt with less than
Speaker 2: four minutes to go. It gave Sennate a chance to
Speaker 2: be the hero, and he drove the Bengals to the
Speaker 2: forty yard line. With two minutes to go. They were
Speaker 2: about twenty yards away from giving McPherson a shot at
Speaker 2: a game winning field goal, but a sack and two
Speaker 2: incomplete passes led to this fourth down and fifteen Shotgun
Speaker 2: Snapp to Senate, he's back to throw. He's gonna fire
Speaker 2: deep downfield for Schdrick Jackson broken up incomplete, no penalty flag,
Speaker 2: and Washington will take over with one forty to go.
Speaker 2: The final score Washington twenty one, Cincinnati nineteen. The Commanders
Speaker 2: won all three of their preseason games. The Bengals went
Speaker 2: two and one. If I had to pick a preseason MVP,
Speaker 2: i'd with rookie wide receiver andre Yosi Bosh. He led
Speaker 2: the team with twelve catches for one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: nine yards in a touchdown, and I spoke to the
Speaker 2: sixth round draft pick out of Princeton after the game.
Speaker 2: We're in the locker room, wide receiver Andre Yo si Vosh,
Speaker 2: who caught his first touchdown pass albeit the preseason. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you interrupted me to say preseason. You're not counting it.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 9: I mean it's nice you note again the end zone
Speaker 9: to help your team win in the preseason, but you know,
Speaker 9: I just want to get there on the real Sundays
Speaker 9: and you know, help my team in that way as well.
Speaker 9: So I appreciate this one, but the room oneses still coming.
Speaker 2: You'll get your chance in fifteen days and hopefully you
Speaker 2: have one in Cleveland. Tell us about that play, though,
Speaker 2: because you got wide open the back of the end zone.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they seem I mean they literally they're running man,
Speaker 9: and I think they switched off because TT ran out.
Speaker 9: But I don't think they're supposed to switch off, And
Speaker 9: so I just ran free and I just hopped up
Speaker 9: and back the ball.
Speaker 2: Jake Browning put it in a spot where, had there
Speaker 2: been somebody nearby, you could have used your height and
Speaker 2: your fathing ability to go up and get Yeah.
Speaker 9: I think he was probably just you seing a little
Speaker 9: bits in case somebody is on me, see if I
Speaker 9: can make the play, and yeah, it's a good ball
Speaker 9: from you, I could get it. So I'm just glad
Speaker 9: I came down with it.
Speaker 2: We're chatting with andre yoci Bosh. How would you describe
Speaker 2: your preseason?
Speaker 9: It was good, you know, I have made some good plays,
Speaker 9: had some plays where I need to learn from, you know,
Speaker 9: just learning from us. Skill errors, technique errors, even just
Speaker 9: play errors. You know, just all learning so I don't
Speaker 9: make the same mistake twice, you know, don't make the
Speaker 9: run the wrong routes on some plays. And it's been
Speaker 9: up and down, but in my mind it's all up
Speaker 9: because I'm always learning.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people said when you were picked,
Speaker 2: can he make this step up from IVY League competition
Speaker 2: to NFL competition? How quickly did you realize, yeah, I
Speaker 2: can played this level.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think OTAs was a
Speaker 9: good indicator of that when I first came. You know,
Speaker 9: I knew my athletic prowess and it's just about getting
Speaker 9: the skilled down and I have confidence in myself to
Speaker 9: get the skills down and just facing more press than
Speaker 9: I have facing the IVY League which I have the
Speaker 9: physical abilities to do, and it's just all learning. And
Speaker 9: I think that once I got here fro Tias, I
Speaker 9: was pretty a set in who I was.
Speaker 2: I would assume you don't have much to worry about
Speaker 2: over the next few days in terms of making the roster.
Speaker 2: Do you feel pretty comfortable.
Speaker 9: I'm not sure you to be honest, you know, I
Speaker 9: still play out there like I'm trying to make the
Speaker 9: fifty three because we have a lot of receivers, so
Speaker 9: I'm still not really sure how the numbers work, you know.
Speaker 9: But I'm just hoping for the best, and I'm just
Speaker 9: hoping I'm going to be a bengu You've.
Speaker 2: Had a great camp, great game tonight. Congratulations.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 2: It seems appropriate that the Bengals appeared to have found
Speaker 2: a gem in the sixth round of the draft this year,
Speaker 2: since recently inducted Hall of Famer Ken Riley was also
Speaker 2: a sixth round draft pick back in nineteen sixty nine.
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Speaker 2: app There were two injuries of note on Saturday. Joseph
Speaker 2: Osai hurt his right ankle and Deontay Smith heard his
Speaker 2: left shoulder. Neither appeared to be in bad shape after
Speaker 2: the game, but we'll have to wait and see. Dave
Speaker 2: Lapham caught up with Zach Taylor.
Speaker 3: Preseasons. Over coach, it's over. What are your what are
Speaker 3: your thoughts at this point in time?
Speaker 7: I thought the guys competed hard, gave us a chance
Speaker 7: at the end, got ourselves in some good situations that
Speaker 7: we'll learn from as a team.
Speaker 6: Beneficial for the entire team.
Speaker 3: Jake Browning, I was just talking with him a little
Speaker 3: bit and get in the Atlanta game, he six of
Speaker 3: his eight plays on his touchdown drive went for first downs.
Speaker 3: He goes four for four for forty two yards, rushes
Speaker 3: a couple of times for thirty three more. Tonight goes
Speaker 3: six for six for forty two and a touchdown. So
Speaker 3: in the last couple of quarters, ten for ten eighty
Speaker 3: four yards and a touchdown, rush for thirty three more.
Speaker 3: He responded big time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, good to see. You know his job is protect
Speaker 7: the football and put us in the end zone. And
Speaker 7: I thought he's done a nice shot by that, so.
Speaker 3: I know you were more than hamstrung on the back end.
Speaker 3: You only had three cornerbacks available to you. What about
Speaker 3: Mike Thomas doing everything that he's asked to do. I mean,
Speaker 3: that guy. Any team is a better football team with
Speaker 3: that guy as part of it, isn't he.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no question, you know, that's why he's been
Speaker 7: such a key part of what we've done here the
Speaker 7: last couple of years. And everybody in the team loves him,
Speaker 7: coaches love him. He's willing to do whatever it takes
Speaker 7: to get the job done, and that's what he did
Speaker 7: again today.
Speaker 3: How frustrating was it though, not having you know, all
Speaker 3: hands on deck kind of back there to maybe quell
Speaker 3: some of the things that I mean, you had to
Speaker 3: play a lot of softs z own and go from there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's just part of the preseason.
Speaker 7: You know, we're not the only team that has to
Speaker 7: deal with that, and that's just one of the things
Speaker 7: that you get overcome.
Speaker 6: And I thought our guys for the most part did that.
Speaker 3: What about your young running backs assess their performance tonight?
Speaker 6: Good the good things.
Speaker 7: You know, all three of those guys did an ice job,
Speaker 7: making efficient games on first second down for us, had
Speaker 7: some good short yard he runs as well, So I
Speaker 7: was pleased with that group.
Speaker 6: As a whole.
Speaker 3: Yo, see Vosh continues to show. I mean he made
Speaker 3: a great play in that touchdown reception. I mean looking
Speaker 3: at him out there when he's by himself out there,
Speaker 3: he looks like a quasi tight end. I mean he's
Speaker 3: a big body guy that can run and jump.
Speaker 6: Yes, he did an ice job.
Speaker 7: Jake did a good job getting through the progression and
Speaker 7: finding them, and he came down with a big play.
Speaker 3: So, coach, where does it go from here? I mean,
Speaker 3: I know, now you've got a long process here. I mean,
Speaker 3: take us through the next forty eight hours. What are
Speaker 3: you going to do as an individual, as a coaching staff,
Speaker 3: as an organization? What goes on?
Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll meet his coaches, We'll maybe we do can
Speaker 7: his staff and make the decisions that are best for
Speaker 7: an organization, you know, and then we'll go from there
Speaker 7: and have our team meeting and talk to some of
Speaker 7: the players and then get to work on Cleveland.
Speaker 3: I know a couple of guys that was injury reporting,
Speaker 3: a couple of guys that didn't sound serious injury part
Speaker 3: of it. Did you come out okay? Do you think?
Speaker 6: I think so.
Speaker 7: But again, we'll always give it a night to sort
Speaker 7: some of them out and see how they feel tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. It's that first night sleep, see
Speaker 3: what it feels like the next morning. We've both been there, right,
Speaker 3: appreciate your time. Thanks a lot, awesome, Thank you, Dave.
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Speaker 2: Radio guys recap. The preseason is overlap. It ends with
Speaker 2: a twenty one to nineteen loss to the Washington Commanders
Speaker 2: here at FedEx Field. Now the nervous time begins for
Speaker 2: a lot of youngsters who are wondering if they are
Speaker 2: going to be one of the sixty nine guys with
Speaker 2: a golden ticket, whether it's on the fifty three man
Speaker 2: roster or the sixteen man practice squad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the ones that aren't on the sixteen man
Speaker 3: practice squad here did they put enough on tape for
Speaker 3: other teams around the league to say I saw something
Speaker 3: there that he showed and stepped up in a time
Speaker 3: when we were looking for people to maybe do that.
Speaker 3: Or other guys are going to get opportunities with other
Speaker 3: teams on their sixteen man practice squad. And that's going
Speaker 3: to be the interesting thing with the roster death. You
Speaker 3: wonder how picked over the Bengals sixteen man practice squad
Speaker 3: is going to be in a quick fashion, you know so,
Speaker 3: and that's in order to get off that sixteen men,
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to go to some of these fifty
Speaker 3: three man roster.
Speaker 1: I think there's going to be some guys on the Bends.
Speaker 3: Sixteen man practice squad that might be on somebody's fifty
Speaker 3: three men roster. Potentially. He's going to be interesting to
Speaker 3: see how many of those there might.
Speaker 2: Be safe to say Jake Browning has won the number
Speaker 2: two quarterback.
Speaker 3: Job, Yeah, I would think so. I mean, his numbers
Speaker 3: are are pretty impressive. You know, he had to step
Speaker 3: up and get it done. And last week his quarterback
Speaker 3: rating one thirty five point four were in four for
Speaker 3: four for forty two yards and then tonight, he goes
Speaker 3: six for six for another forty two in a touchdown,
Speaker 3: ten for ten eighty four yards and tests on quarterback grinning.
Speaker 3: He's going to be well up into the one forties.
Speaker 3: And you know, he showed mobility. I think he showed
Speaker 3: that he understands the offense. And Duke Tobin had an
Speaker 3: interesting thing that he was talking about with us at halftime.
Speaker 3: He says, his mind is the big thing. You know,
Speaker 3: he understands that, he sees it. He gets the ball
Speaker 3: out of his hand quickly as a result of that.
Speaker 3: So they seem to be pretty high on.
Speaker 2: One guy who is not going to be worrying about
Speaker 2: having a spot on the roster is andre Yosi Bosh.
Speaker 2: I'd have to say he was the bengals most impressive
Speaker 2: preseason player, had a touchdown catch in the game tonight,
Speaker 2: and was terrific in all three preseason games.
Speaker 3: He was I mean, I think that, you know, like
Speaker 3: Duke was talking about with us at halftime, again, he
Speaker 3: was another part of the subject matter and he had
Speaker 3: traits There's no doubt about it that they really liked.
Speaker 3: And the only knock was the level of competition, you know,
Speaker 3: playing at Princeton playing in the IVY League. Well, he
Speaker 3: showed that he could step up. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: the other thing, you know, you talk about Jake Browning's mind,
Speaker 3: Yolsivash has to have a pretty strong mind himself in
Speaker 3: terms of not raw intelligence and football intelligence. And sometimes
Speaker 3: it doesn't equate to football intelligence, but it does to him.
Speaker 3: He picks it up quickly. He's gifted. I mean, he's big,
Speaker 3: he can run, he can jump. There's not much he
Speaker 3: can't do physically. I think I think his future is
Speaker 3: extremely bright.
Speaker 2: There's no question the Bengals always had at least one
Speaker 2: running back on the practice squad. We didn't know anything
Speaker 2: really about Calvin Tyler and Jacob Sailors. They hadn't played
Speaker 2: in the preseason. Jacob Sailors had a good game. He
Speaker 2: got the ball eleven times, he had a twenty seven
Speaker 2: yard run. They got wiped out by a penalty. If
Speaker 2: nothing else, he certainly enhanced his chance of being on
Speaker 2: that practice squad.
Speaker 3: He did, you know, I mean, all you can ask
Speaker 3: the young guy to do is to step up when
Speaker 3: given the opportunity. And it's almost like all those guys
Speaker 3: are like, hey, thanks for giving us everything. You give
Speaker 3: us a training camp. Here's your opportunity to go put
Speaker 3: something on tape. Now it's up to you to go
Speaker 3: do it. He stepped up and did a big time.
Speaker 3: I thought he was really good. I mean he caught
Speaker 3: the ball well out of the backfield. I mean I
Speaker 3: didn't notice anything glaring as Simon Arrows on his part,
Speaker 3: So I mean I think that he helped himself a ton.
Speaker 1: There's no question.
Speaker 2: Last year at cutdown Day, Bengals added guys to their
Speaker 2: fifty three man roster from other teams, and they were
Speaker 2: drafting late or choosing late in the waiver process, and
Speaker 2: they still were able to do it. Max Sharping arrived
Speaker 2: that way, Devin asi Ossi got here that way. J
Speaker 2: two fella got here that way. What do you think,
Speaker 2: I mean, are they going to do something similar this year?
Speaker 2: Is there a position group that you think that they
Speaker 2: might target.
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I mean, you know, you think
Speaker 3: potentially running back, But then guys show up and play
Speaker 3: the way they play tonight. I mean they may you know,
Speaker 3: be able to make things happen for their practice squad
Speaker 3: in that regard. And I do think the one big
Speaker 3: positive that came out of the night, there's a couple
Speaker 3: of guys that were nicked up, Osai being one, and
Speaker 3: there was an offensive player that will lose Jontay Smith
Speaker 3: in the offensive line. It doesn't sound like they're speaking
Speaker 3: with Zach after the game. It doesn't sound like they're
Speaker 3: devastating injuries. But you always want to give it overnight
Speaker 3: and see what it's like the next morning. But I
Speaker 3: don't think they're going to be any kind of a
Speaker 3: long term thing. So but the thing that you know
Speaker 3: that I thought was a big key is don't let
Speaker 3: injuries have to be part of the evaluation process. In
Speaker 3: other words, you know, it's just let the guy, is
Speaker 3: his skill set good enough? Did he play well enough
Speaker 3: to make the football team. It's like, oh, now I
Speaker 3: gotta claim this guy, put this one on waivers, see
Speaker 3: if he can clear waivers, and then cut this guy
Speaker 3: and put this guy back on our roster, and all
Speaker 3: those manipulations that they had to do they've had to
Speaker 3: do in the past because of injuries. A guys, he's
Speaker 3: only gonna be out six weeks, He's not gonna be
Speaker 3: out the entire sit, but he has to be on
Speaker 3: the fifty three men roster before he can go on
Speaker 3: ir it looks like they've avoided all that. So I
Speaker 3: think that's a big deal. And I think they'll just
Speaker 3: be able to build their roster based on, you know,
Speaker 3: instead of juggling injury semantics, they just can the guy
Speaker 3: hopeless or not.
Speaker 2: One of the most interesting decisions they have to make
Speaker 2: this weekend involves one of our all time favorites, Mike Thomas.
Speaker 2: Truly one of the great people that's ever come through
Speaker 2: the Bengals locker room ever and fifty plus years of
Speaker 2: the franchise. If they keep for safeties, he's probably not
Speaker 2: one of the four. He's got tremendous special teams value.
Speaker 2: If he's not on the fifty three man roster, you
Speaker 2: can keep six veterans. They would love to have him
Speaker 2: on the practice squad if he's willing at thirty three
Speaker 2: years old. It's going to be very interesting to see
Speaker 2: how that comes down.
Speaker 3: It really is. And I told him after the game
Speaker 3: that I said during the game that any roster is
Speaker 3: better with Mike Thomas on that roster. He was very appreciative.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, he is that guy. I said,
Speaker 3: you know what, forget football, I'm going to campaign for
Speaker 3: him to be president of the United States.
Speaker 5: Yur.
Speaker 3: He actually started laughing, but I mean he, I mean,
Speaker 3: he is a he is a special dude. It's going
Speaker 3: to be it's going to be very interesting. And the
Speaker 3: thing he held a very very important squat person protector
Speaker 3: for Darren Simmons. And you know, I was thinking about
Speaker 3: this last night as I was putting together my own
Speaker 3: roster twenty five offense, twenty five defense, and three specialists
Speaker 3: and then maybe you know, playing with it after that, if.
Speaker 1: He's not one of the guys.
Speaker 3: Man, you have a snapper that's in his second season,
Speaker 3: he's got twenty games under his belt, counting playoffs, and
Speaker 3: then you have a personal protector or a Jordan Battle
Speaker 3: that's a rookie and a rookie punter. Potentially, it looks
Speaker 3: like that that's going to be the case. I mean,
Speaker 3: Mike Thomas took all of the personal protective snaps for Darren.
Speaker 3: And in the very first game you go up to Cleveland,
Speaker 3: they have a very good special teams coach and you know,
Speaker 3: tight game, loud clock's running down, they run a funky
Speaker 3: formation and it might be tough on the rookie. So
Speaker 3: those are the kind of things that you think about
Speaker 3: but if you make that decision, you have confidence that
Speaker 3: Jordan Battle and others can handle it.
Speaker 2: Or Mike Thomas went out there and this game played
Speaker 2: out a position at corner because they needed somebody to
Speaker 2: do it. Here's a thirty three year old guy who's
Speaker 2: been playing safety and not cornerback for many, many years.
Speaker 2: You know, did what the team needed him to do.
Speaker 3: He will do anything that his football team passed of him.
Speaker 3: And to me, I mean, I think, I think he
Speaker 3: is the ultimate teammate. I mean, he really is. I
Speaker 3: don't I think if they if you put into a
Speaker 3: computer all the requirements both physically mentally, all the intangibles
Speaker 3: that you need to have the perfect teammate. Michael Thomas
Speaker 3: comes spitting out of.
Speaker 2: Their final question. What's your concern level for Heavin McPherson
Speaker 2: after the preseason?
Speaker 1: Not real high, not real high. Sky's the limit there.
Speaker 3: I mean, that dude, he just he throws dynamite caps
Speaker 3: on his toes before the game, in the pregame and
Speaker 3: they start exploding. During the game. It is amazing to
Speaker 3: see the ball come off that guy's foot. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's you know, you I remember, you know, watching Major
Speaker 3: League Baseball guys are batting practice and just hearing the
Speaker 3: ball come off their bats, seeing their swing, and then
Speaker 3: I mean, how does it make that noise? It doesn't
Speaker 3: make that noise normally, you know. And the same thing
Speaker 3: with him striking football. Some guys have this inate ability
Speaker 3: to just crush. He's won.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get from fifty eight during the game and sixty
Speaker 2: five yards during the pregame.
Speaker 3: War months, and he's done that before. I mean, I
Speaker 3: remember practice, he ended of practice to hit from sixty five.
Speaker 3: We were right behind them, yep, just right down the middle.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good, dude.
Speaker 3: Come on, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: By the way, Happy birthday to lapse wife Lynn and
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Speaker 2: time for this week's edition of fun Facts, where you
Speaker 2: get to know the person under the pads. Time for
Speaker 2: some fun facts with defensive end. Raymond Johnson the third
Speaker 2: from Sumter, South Carolina, the home of the Shaw Air
Speaker 2: Force Base. When you're home, do you see a lot
Speaker 2: of F sixteens and fighter jets overhead.
Speaker 1: All the time? That's all we hear.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 10: You go see them flying around, you go see them landing.
Speaker 10: You know, Shaw Air Force Base or something to South Carolina,
Speaker 10: can't miss it.
Speaker 2: Did a bunch of your friends have parents that worked there?
Speaker 1: I had quite a few military friends. I did.
Speaker 10: A lot of new ones every year. You get like
Speaker 10: new friends just because of that military base.
Speaker 2: So we're visiting with Raymond Johnson the third. What sports
Speaker 2: did you play growing up?
Speaker 10: I did basketball, baseball, football, and track?
Speaker 2: What in track?
Speaker 10: All the big stuff you know, like shot put and discus?
Speaker 6: No, right, guy of etts? You know?
Speaker 2: Did you have any interest in non sports activities?
Speaker 10: Nonsports activity? I love music, So I was trying to
Speaker 10: dabble in music a little bit. I'm not like I'm
Speaker 10: a crazy good thing or anything, but I'm great at
Speaker 10: like writing lyrics and songs and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: All Right, you've gotten interesting talent other than football. I
Speaker 2: heard you say in an interview that you feel like
Speaker 2: you've always an underdog. Has that been a big motivator
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Man, just uh, anything I've done in life, I always
Speaker 10: felt like the underdog cause it's always I'm always being overlooked.
Speaker 10: I felt like, uh like, coming in high school, I
Speaker 10: was only a three star and I didn't get that
Speaker 10: rank until you know, after my last senior year, stuff
Speaker 10: like that, and I always felt like, you know, I
Speaker 10: was a dominant player, probably one of the best in
Speaker 10: the state, and you know, I felt like that's just
Speaker 10: started my underdog journey. And then when I went to college,
Speaker 10: I went to a smaller Division one uh if uh
Speaker 10: G five school, so it continue my underdog mentality. Of
Speaker 10: course I wasn't drafted, and you know I'm here now
Speaker 10: in the NFL and still underdog mentality.
Speaker 2: So Georgia Southern was that school? Why did you choose
Speaker 2: the egos? Uh?
Speaker 10: It was basically the whole recruiting process. The Eagles stayed
Speaker 10: with me through thick and thin. You know, even if
Speaker 10: I wasn't sure I would actually qualify academically, cause you know,
Speaker 10: I was a a knucklehead in school at the time,
Speaker 10: so not taking it serious as I should. But you know,
Speaker 10: Georgia Southern was there the whole time in their family.
Speaker 10: They all family.
Speaker 1: It's a family team, it's a it's family all around.
Speaker 1: Egan Nations. Shout out to Egan Nation.
Speaker 3: By the way.
Speaker 2: A self proclaimed knucklehead in the classroom when you were young,
Speaker 2: would you have gone to one of the big powerful
Speaker 2: schools in South Carolina or nearby? Do you think if
Speaker 2: you had paid better attention to your grades? I definitely do.
Speaker 10: I think I think I would have failed to either
Speaker 10: USC or Clemson, and those guys were showing interest, of course,
Speaker 10: But like I said, knucklehead.
Speaker 2: Man, well you changed your ways by the time you
Speaker 2: got to college majored in sports management. Could you see
Speaker 2: yourself working in a front office or for a college
Speaker 2: athletic department someday after your playing careers finished.
Speaker 10: I actually could either working in the front office or
Speaker 10: going to the big screen man, because I you know,
Speaker 10: I love to talk about the game. You know, always
Speaker 10: been great at speaking out publicly. So you know, either
Speaker 10: that or broadcasting or one of those things. Anything around
Speaker 10: the game is it sounds.
Speaker 1: Good to me.
Speaker 2: So you could see yourself as a color analyst done
Speaker 2: a football broadcast man.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: You notice.
Speaker 2: We're visiting with Raymond Johnson the third. As you mentioned,
Speaker 2: you weren't drafted, but many teams tried to sign you
Speaker 2: immediately after the draft. You chose the New York Giants.
Speaker 2: As it turns out, that was your favorite team growing
Speaker 2: up in Sumter, South Carolina. Why did you become a
Speaker 2: Giants fan?
Speaker 10: Like all little kids, you know, you think you're running
Speaker 10: back growing up and stuff and Tiki Barbara I was
Speaker 10: huge on him. So they started out with Tiki, and
Speaker 10: then as I got older, start developing on the dev
Speaker 10: side of the ball and stuff. You know, I started
Speaker 10: learning about guys like Alt and then you know, I'm
Speaker 10: looking at this D line with Osu Yu Minari and
Speaker 10: Justin Tuck and Jason Peter.
Speaker 1: Paul and stuff. So it's just it's just that culture. Man.
Speaker 1: I always loved it.
Speaker 2: You're wearing the number fifty six in a Bengals uniform?
Speaker 2: Is that for Lawrence Taylor?
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 10: But you know, now that you say something, that's an
Speaker 10: interesting thing. Though, I can get to start viewing it
Speaker 10: that way. I definitely can.
Speaker 2: It's a good guy a copy it is great guy
Speaker 2: to coffee after being or after signing with the New
Speaker 2: York Giants as an undrafted free agent. You made the
Speaker 2: opening day roster a couple of years ago and wound
Speaker 2: up playing in fifteen games. That's an incredible accomplishment. Described
Speaker 2: that phone call when cut down weekend, they call you
Speaker 2: up and say you've made the team.
Speaker 10: Which is what is crazy. It actually wasn't a phone call.
Speaker 10: When you get the phone call, that means you don't
Speaker 10: make the team. So I didn't get a phone call.
Speaker 10: And you know, coming into the league, I didn't really
Speaker 10: know as much about fifty three man rosters and all that.
Speaker 10: All I knew was like, you know, you either on
Speaker 10: the team or you're on practice squad, you know, So
Speaker 10: I never really knew about the call and if you know,
Speaker 10: if you're on a fifty three year o on practice squad,
Speaker 10: so you know, I found out that I was actually
Speaker 10: on an official roster through like on the website and
Speaker 10: then an interview shortly after practice and stuff. So I'm like, whoa.
Speaker 10: You know, I didn't have no clue, but I'm glad
Speaker 10: I did.
Speaker 2: So not getting the phone call in this case was
Speaker 2: the greatest thing. The greatest thing. Yes, sir, we're talking
Speaker 2: to Raymond Johnson, the third You spent last year with
Speaker 2: the Bengals on the practice squad. How did you approach
Speaker 2: it when you didn't get to play in the games.
Speaker 10: Just as an opportunity to get better and tone in
Speaker 10: on my craft, getting a chance to go against a
Speaker 10: championship caliber guys, you know, and making the most of it,
Speaker 10: so you know, at first, of course, I don't think
Speaker 10: I liked it at first, but just looking back on it,
Speaker 10: I'm definitely thankful for it because it helped me took
Speaker 10: my game to a next level.
Speaker 2: I believe all right. Time for some wild card topics
Speaker 2: now with Raymond Johnson the third? Have you had any
Speaker 2: other jobs other than professional athlete?
Speaker 1: Have I had any other jobs? Uh?
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know. I used to do yard work all
Speaker 10: the time for money and stuff. A lot of blue
Speaker 10: collar jobs actually, like moving stuff, moving trees, branches and
Speaker 10: stuff with some of my families and their friends and
Speaker 10: businesses and stuff like that. But never really think that's like,
Speaker 10: you know, a white college job or paperwork anything, and neever,
Speaker 10: that sort.
Speaker 2: That stuff helps helps build strength.
Speaker 1: It does it very different, it does.
Speaker 2: Do you have any hidden talents?
Speaker 1: I can rap?
Speaker 10: I can rap and I'm great at freestyling on the spot.
Speaker 10: I don't know why. Well, actually I do know why.
Speaker 10: My dad used to always wrapping the car and just
Speaker 10: freestyle and stuff, and I don't know. As I got older,
Speaker 10: I just I became great at it. So it's kind
Speaker 10: of you know, it's funny.
Speaker 2: On the flip side of that, what are you terrible at?
Speaker 1: I'm terrible at golf.
Speaker 10: I want to get better at that, just because when
Speaker 10: I'm done with football, of course, I want to be
Speaker 10: out there on a you know, on the course, cutting up.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: It's a game for life. That's a good thing about golf.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had a pet?
Speaker 1: I had a few. I had a lot of dogs
Speaker 1: growing up.
Speaker 10: I had like a rock Waller, a pig, a poodle,
Speaker 10: and now me and my fiance have like a Yorkie
Speaker 10: and a shit too, so a Yorkie and Shitsu nick.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm I'm a dog person.
Speaker 2: Who is the greatest athlete of all time in any sport.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna say Serena Williams. Serena Williams. She don't get
Speaker 10: a lot of credit, and I think it's because she's
Speaker 10: a woman. But Serena is a crazy athlete and if
Speaker 10: you study her closely, you can. You can definitely make
Speaker 10: that argument for her.
Speaker 2: Are you a tennis fan.
Speaker 10: I'm not, but that's also one of those sports. I'm
Speaker 10: trying to double him more. Just you know, I'm trying
Speaker 10: to dobble in a little bit of everything.
Speaker 2: Good for you, sir. All right, final question, this one's
Speaker 2: a little bit deep. If you could meet anybody in history,
Speaker 2: living or deceased, could be an athlete and entertainer, a statesman,
Speaker 2: who would that person be?
Speaker 1: That's a great question.
Speaker 10: So if I could meet anybody, I think I would
Speaker 10: want to meet my great grandfather. I heard from my
Speaker 10: great grandmother, who loves to talk a lot by the way,
Speaker 10: that I remind him, I'll remind her of him a lot.
Speaker 10: And he was a tall guy too, great man.
Speaker 1: From what I heard.
Speaker 10: I heard he was a good looking fellow. So you know,
Speaker 10: of course it runs and ags. Not surprised, but I
Speaker 10: would definitely want to beat my great grandfather definitely.
Speaker 2: That's an excellent answer, Raymond. Best of luck in the
Speaker 2: final preseason game and throughout the season. I appreciate your time, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: I appreciate you too.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I think the scoring crew in Washington jypped Raymond Johnson
Speaker 2: out of a half sack on Saturday Night. I believe
Speaker 2: he finished the preseason with two sacks and a team
Speaker 2: high five quarterback hits. That's going to do it for
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