1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hoard and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 2: The any Dan. 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Addition. 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: As the Bengals wrap up the preseason and turn their 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 2: attention to the games that count, beginning with a regular 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: season opener at Cleveland. Coming up, you'll hear radio replays 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: from Saturday's two point loss at Washington, locker room, comments 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: from players and coaches, and Dave Lappamill join me for 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: postgame analysis. Then, in this week's fun Facts Conversation, we'll 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: get to know at defensive end who grew up rooting 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: for the New York Giants and wears Lawrence Taylor's old number. 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by Alta Fiber, 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: future proof fiber Internet capable of delivering multi gigabit speeds 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: designed to take your home, business, and community to a 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: new level. Elevate your connection with Alta Fiber. Now here's 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: a quick reminder that you can have the latest edition 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: canter by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: greatest thing since freezing cold takes. One of the most 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: amusing Twitter handles to follow is at Old Takes Exposed. 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: It's devoted to finding and sharing strong opinions expressed by 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 2: members of the media that turned out to be horribly wrong. 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: I thought about it this week while preparing for the 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Washington game, because if you remember the twenty twenty draft, 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: quite a few people expressed the opinion that the Bengals 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: should not draft Joe Burrow with a number one pick, 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 2: they should take defensive end Chase Young. With all due 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: respect to Young, who has been to a Pro Bowl, 30 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: I think everybody would agree that the Bengals got it right. 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: You can still find those freezing cold takes on the Internet, 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: including a radio show appearance by none other than Carson Palmer, 33 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: who made the case that the Bengal should take the 34 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: pass rusher since they already had Andy Dalton at quarterback. 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: All due respect to the Red Rifle, who's been to 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: three Pro Bowls, I think everybody would agree that the 37 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 2: Bengals got it right. Now, let's get to Saturday's preseason 38 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: finale at FedEx Field. On their first twenty two possessions 39 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: of the preseason, the Bengals did not score an offensive touchdown. 40 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: That streak ended on their final drive last week in Atlanta, 41 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: and on their first drive in Washington, the Bengals found 42 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: the end zone again. Bengals do not have a touchdown 43 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: pass yet in the preseason, they'll send two receivers out 44 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: to each side of the formation. Browning catches a shoulder 45 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: high snap, scanning the field, throws over them all, leaping 46 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: catch by Yo Si Vosh touchdown, and andre Yosi Vosh 47 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 2: is doing the gritty Jamar Chase style in the back 48 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: of the end zone. Jake Browning was in for the 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: first two series and went six for six for forty 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: two yards. In that touchdown. He appears to have wrapped 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: up the backup quarterback job and spoke to Dave Lapham 52 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: after the game. 53 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: Play about as high level as you could possibly play 54 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 3: in a competitive situation. 55 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you're we're gonna play perfect. But I 56 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: feel pretty good about what I put on tape and 57 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 4: all that, and practice has been going well, so we'll 58 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 4: see those thing shakes out and yeah, it's always a 59 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: good feling film like you played well and put your 60 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 4: best so forward. 61 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 3: You feel like you're seeing the field really well. I 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: mean you' getting the ball out of your hand pretty quickly. Yeah. 63 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: I think it helps to be in my third year 64 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 4: in this offense. Watch Joe operate a lot and be 65 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: really engaged throughout the last couple of years on Peace 66 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: squad and see how he operates and try and mimic 67 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: it because it obviously works for him. 68 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: What about this offense? What are the expectations do you 69 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: think for this offensive football team this year? 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: I mean that's more of a Joe question, but I 71 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: think always the expectation offense is going to be high, 72 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: and the expectation in the locker room for offense and 73 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 4: defenses is high and high expectations. 74 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: But one game at a. 75 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: Time, graduations on big performances. Thank you. 76 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: It was seven nothing Bengals after a quarter, but veteran 77 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: Washington quarterback Jacoby Brissett tied the game in the second, 78 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: moves up in the pocket, avoids a hit, fires deep downfield. 79 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: It's got a wide open receiver at the ten who 80 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: makes the catch, spins away and takes it into the 81 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: end zone for a touchdown. Mitchell Timsley with a touchdown 82 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: catch for Washington. 83 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: And Jordan Battle is the one who missed the tackle 84 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: at the five yard line. He tried to put a 85 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: pretty big hit on him at that point. Don't try 86 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 3: to put a crushing glow on him, just grab him 87 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: and get him on the ground. 88 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: Trevor Simeon took over at quarterback on the Bengals third 89 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: drive and promptly drove the team into field goal range 90 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: for Evan McPherson. Then again, Evan is within range as 91 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 2: soon as he walks into the stadium, The snap, the placement, 92 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: and the kick a high spinning, end over end kick 93 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: and it is good from fifty eight yards away from 94 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: Money Mack and the Bengals take ten to seven lead, 95 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: and it looked like they would add to that lead 96 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: the next time they got the ball. As the Bengals 97 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: drove from their own fourteen to the Washington twenty six 98 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: with twenty three seconds left in the half, Simeon fakes left, 99 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: throws it deep, and it is pated around and picked 100 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: off in the end zone by Washington Chase Whittaker winds 101 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: up with a football after it got deflected. Although the 102 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: Bengals did not score on that drive, they got a 103 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: good look at an undrafted rookie running back out of 104 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: East Tennessee State who did not get the ball in 105 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: the first two preseason games Jacob Sailors. He finished with 106 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: nine carries for twenty seven yards and added two catches 107 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: for fourteen more. He also had a long run wiped 108 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: out by a penalty. I spoke to him after the game. 109 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: How did it feel to finally get that opportunity? 110 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: You know? It was fun? 111 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was great gratefulfillings as being out there after 112 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 5: just preparing for so long and as us waiting for 113 00:05:58,960 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 5: an opportunity. 114 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 3: You know. 115 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 5: And I love the game of football, regardless of if 116 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 5: I got the ball in my hands or not. But 117 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 5: I'm confident that's what I do best as a football player, 118 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 5: So I was I'm just. 119 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 6: Blessed that I got to display that on this type 120 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 6: of stage. 121 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure you were. You know, the butterflies were going 122 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: before you got that tap on the shoulder and they 123 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: said go on in there and show us what you 124 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: can do. What was the feeling like when they gave 125 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: you the green light and you knew you were going 126 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: in the. 127 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 5: Game, feeling this incredible focus. You know, let's make sure 128 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 5: this is the one opportunity that I've prepared essentially since 129 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 5: I was five years old for, and I just wanted 130 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 5: to make sure that I left it all out on 131 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 5: the field, a model that got me where I am 132 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 5: today is no doubt, and I just wanted to make 133 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 5: sure when I walked off the field, I left no 134 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 5: doubt and just being the best teammate, I could be 135 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 5: the best player everything representation of the Bengals organization. 136 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 6: And I'm confident that I displayed that. 137 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: We're talking to Jacob Sailors. You had some good runs. 138 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: Unfortunately the best one got knocked out by a penalty 139 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: at twenty seven yard run. But as my broadcast partner 140 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: Dave Lapham pointed out, that film still exists. Yes, sir, 141 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: the Bengals and every team in the league is going 142 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 2: to see what you did on that run. 143 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and uh, I'm just grateful that I got that 144 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 5: opportunity and uh, let let the my my talents take over. 145 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 5: I'm just blessed that my office a line was able 146 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 5: to clear away for me and the receiver's block well downfield. 147 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 5: So that's what it takes for a team to have 148 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 5: a successful play, and I'm just blessed that I was 149 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 5: in that situation at that time. 150 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: Did your heart drop when when you heard that there 151 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: was a flag? 152 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 7: Uh? 153 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 5: You know it wasn't so much that a job, you know, 154 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 5: just upset, a little disappointed, but at the end of 155 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 5: the day, it. 156 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: Was grateful to be honest. 157 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: So next forty eight hours, seventy two hours or nerve 158 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: wracking time for everybody in your position throughout the NFL, 159 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: how are you going to dealing with for the next 160 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 2: few days. 161 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 5: I'm just gonna encourage myself through the grace of God, 162 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 5: talk to people that helped got me to where I 163 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 5: am today, and without them I'd be going crazy, you know, 164 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 5: just being in this situation, the doubt that naturally creeps 165 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 5: in and not the not knowing. But I'm just gonna 166 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 5: engolve myself and the grace of God and whatever he 167 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 5: sees fit, he's. 168 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: Going to carry it out, and I'm okay with him. 169 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: Quite a good show and tape. Congratulations, appreciate it. That's 170 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: running back Jacob Sailors. The Bengals fell behind for the 171 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: first time in the third quarter when former Georgia quarterback 172 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: Jake from who should replace Aaron Rodgers in State Farm 173 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: ads so it could be Jake from State Farm through 174 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: this touchdown pass first and goal less than a yard 175 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: away for the Commanders from Catches a shotgun snap, throws 176 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: a pass out to the right and the wide open 177 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: receiver makes the catch for the Washington td It is 178 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: Bryson Tremaine, who had five yards of separation over near 179 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 2: the forward right pylon. At the end of the third quarter, 180 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 2: it was Washington fourteen Cincinnati ten. In the fourth, Simeon's 181 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: final drivet quarterback ended with a short field goal by 182 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: McPherson to make it fourteen thirteen. But Jake from State 183 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 2: Farm I can't stop saying it struck again from will 184 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: look to throw his pass over the middle cut for 185 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: the touchdown by tight end Brandon Dillon. 186 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: Well, the Bengals just played zone defense at the seven 187 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 3: yard line. Everybody just dropped back inside the goal line. 188 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: I mean they tried to form a pick of fence 189 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 3: at the goal line basically, and you know there were 190 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 3: holes there. Receivers just run down and hook it up 191 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: between two defenders and its touchdown pass. 192 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: The two Washington quarterbacks finished with three touchdown passes, no picks, 193 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: and a passer rating of one twenty point eight against 194 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 2: the Bengals secondary that was light on cornerbacks, Like all 195 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 2: of the starters on both sides of the ball, Chitabayo, Wooge, 196 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: Cam Taylor, brit and Mike Hilton didn't play. Additionally, Dj Turner, 197 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: Sidney Jones, and Marvel Tell were out with minor injuries 198 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: that left three corners dj Ivy, Alan George and Jalen Davis, 199 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: and the Bengals pulled Davis early in the game to 200 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: make sure that he didn't get hurt. Thirty three year 201 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: old Mike Thomas, who's been a safety for the bulk 202 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: of his twelve NFL seasons, played most of the game 203 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: out of position at slot corner. Dave Lapham shares his 204 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: thoughts on Mike Thomas's value later in the podcast. Down 205 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: by eight with ten minutes to go, the Bengals turned 206 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: to third string quarterback Reed Senate, who was added to 207 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: the roster after Joe Burrows strained his calf on the 208 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: second day of training camp. Sinnate finished the preseason tied 209 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: for the team lead in touchdown passes. He catches a 210 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: shotgun snap, He's gonna throw it high end, gut him, 211 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: nobody near shut With Jackson touchdown, Bengals a thirty four 212 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: yard touchdown strike. Now the Bengals can go for two 213 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: and try to tie the score. 214 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: Boy, you talk about a blown coverage man Chevitz, I 215 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: mean he was twenty yards open. 216 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: It was one of those plays where the receiver is 217 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: so open that you worry that he's going to drop 218 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: the ball. Here's Shadwick Jackson. 219 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the hard ones for sure. 220 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 6: You know ran my route. 221 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 8: I seen it kind of blowing the cover as I 222 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 8: knew I was wide open, as I saw in the ball, 223 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 8: and there I got to do after that as was focus. 224 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: On that and you know, get his own. 225 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: Can you describe the feeling of catching an NFL touchdown 226 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: pass even though it was a preseason game. 227 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, that was a great feeling, no matter the circumstances 228 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 8: of the preseason regular season. And like I said before, 229 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 8: these got just give me a chance. Fan was a 230 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 8: great team with a lot of great teammates, so it. 231 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Was very fun. 232 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: Jackson finished the preseason with nine catches for one hundred 233 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: and twelve yards and as a strong candidate to make 234 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: the practice squad. The Bengals failed on the two point 235 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: conversion attempt and trailed twenty one to nineteen with six 236 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: and a half minutes to go, and the Bengals defense 237 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: get the ball back for the offense on third down 238 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 2: and nine near midfield, drops back to throw against the 239 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: format rush. He gets head and sacked brought down. Raymond 240 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: Johnson was there. Gunter was nearby. The Bengals defense gets 241 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: a huge sack and Washington will punt with less than 242 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: four minutes to go. It gave Sennate a chance to 243 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: be the hero, and he drove the Bengals to the 244 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: forty yard line. With two minutes to go. They were 245 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: about twenty yards away from giving McPherson a shot at 246 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: a game winning field goal, but a sack and two 247 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: incomplete passes led to this fourth down and fifteen Shotgun 248 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: Snapp to Senate, he's back to throw. He's gonna fire 249 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: deep downfield for Schdrick Jackson broken up incomplete, no penalty flag, 250 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: and Washington will take over with one forty to go. 251 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: The final score Washington twenty one, Cincinnati nineteen. The Commanders 252 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: won all three of their preseason games. The Bengals went 253 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: two and one. If I had to pick a preseason MVP, 254 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: i'd with rookie wide receiver andre Yosi Bosh. He led 255 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: the team with twelve catches for one hundred and twenty 256 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: nine yards in a touchdown, and I spoke to the 257 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: sixth round draft pick out of Princeton after the game. 258 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: We're in the locker room, wide receiver Andre Yo si Vosh, 259 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: who caught his first touchdown pass albeit the preseason. Yeah. Yeah, 260 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: you interrupted me to say preseason. You're not counting it. 261 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 3: No. 262 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 9: I mean it's nice you note again the end zone 263 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 9: to help your team win in the preseason, but you know, 264 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 9: I just want to get there on the real Sundays 265 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 9: and you know, help my team in that way as well. 266 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 9: So I appreciate this one, but the room oneses still coming. 267 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: You'll get your chance in fifteen days and hopefully you 268 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: have one in Cleveland. Tell us about that play, though, 269 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: because you got wide open the back of the end zone. 270 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, they seem I mean they literally they're running man, 271 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 9: and I think they switched off because TT ran out. 272 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 9: But I don't think they're supposed to switch off, And 273 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 9: so I just ran free and I just hopped up 274 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 9: and back the ball. 275 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: Jake Browning put it in a spot where, had there 276 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 2: been somebody nearby, you could have used your height and 277 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 2: your fathing ability to go up and get Yeah. 278 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 9: I think he was probably just you seing a little 279 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 9: bits in case somebody is on me, see if I 280 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 9: can make the play, and yeah, it's a good ball 281 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 9: from you, I could get it. So I'm just glad 282 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 9: I came down with it. 283 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: We're chatting with andre yoci Bosh. How would you describe 284 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: your preseason? 285 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 9: It was good, you know, I have made some good plays, 286 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 9: had some plays where I need to learn from, you know, 287 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 9: just learning from us. Skill errors, technique errors, even just 288 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 9: play errors. You know, just all learning so I don't 289 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 9: make the same mistake twice, you know, don't make the 290 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 9: run the wrong routes on some plays. And it's been 291 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 9: up and down, but in my mind it's all up 292 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 9: because I'm always learning. 293 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people said when you were picked, 294 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: can he make this step up from IVY League competition 295 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: to NFL competition? How quickly did you realize, yeah, I 296 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: can played this level. 297 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think OTAs was a 298 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 9: good indicator of that when I first came. You know, 299 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 9: I knew my athletic prowess and it's just about getting 300 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 9: the skilled down and I have confidence in myself to 301 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 9: get the skills down and just facing more press than 302 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 9: I have facing the IVY League which I have the 303 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 9: physical abilities to do, and it's just all learning. And 304 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 9: I think that once I got here fro Tias, I 305 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 9: was pretty a set in who I was. 306 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: I would assume you don't have much to worry about 307 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: over the next few days in terms of making the roster. 308 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: Do you feel pretty comfortable. 309 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 9: I'm not sure you to be honest, you know, I 310 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 9: still play out there like I'm trying to make the 311 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 9: fifty three because we have a lot of receivers, so 312 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 9: I'm still not really sure how the numbers work, you know. 313 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 9: But I'm just hoping for the best, and I'm just 314 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 9: hoping I'm going to be a bengu You've. 315 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,359 Speaker 2: Had a great camp, great game tonight. Congratulations. 316 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thank you. 317 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: It seems appropriate that the Bengals appeared to have found 318 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: a gem in the sixth round of the draft this year, 319 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: since recently inducted Hall of Famer Ken Riley was also 320 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: a sixth round draft pick back in nineteen sixty nine. 321 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by Bengals 322 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: Picks and Ultimate Bengals. They're free to play with tickets 323 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: inside merchandise up for grabs. Find both inside the Bengals 324 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: app There were two injuries of note on Saturday. Joseph 325 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: Osai hurt his right ankle and Deontay Smith heard his 326 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: left shoulder. Neither appeared to be in bad shape after 327 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: the game, but we'll have to wait and see. Dave 328 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: Lapham caught up with Zach Taylor. 329 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: Preseasons. Over coach, it's over. What are your what are 330 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: your thoughts at this point in time? 331 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 7: I thought the guys competed hard, gave us a chance 332 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 7: at the end, got ourselves in some good situations that 333 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 7: we'll learn from as a team. 334 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 6: Beneficial for the entire team. 335 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 3: Jake Browning, I was just talking with him a little 336 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: bit and get in the Atlanta game, he six of 337 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: his eight plays on his touchdown drive went for first downs. 338 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: He goes four for four for forty two yards, rushes 339 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: a couple of times for thirty three more. Tonight goes 340 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: six for six for forty two and a touchdown. So 341 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: in the last couple of quarters, ten for ten eighty 342 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: four yards and a touchdown, rush for thirty three more. 343 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: He responded big time. 344 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, good to see. You know his job is protect 345 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 7: the football and put us in the end zone. And 346 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 7: I thought he's done a nice shot by that, so. 347 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: I know you were more than hamstrung on the back end. 348 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: You only had three cornerbacks available to you. What about 349 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: Mike Thomas doing everything that he's asked to do. I mean, 350 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: that guy. Any team is a better football team with 351 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: that guy as part of it, isn't he. 352 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no question, you know, that's why he's been 353 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 7: such a key part of what we've done here the 354 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 7: last couple of years. And everybody in the team loves him, 355 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 7: coaches love him. He's willing to do whatever it takes 356 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 7: to get the job done, and that's what he did 357 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 7: again today. 358 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 3: How frustrating was it though, not having you know, all 359 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: hands on deck kind of back there to maybe quell 360 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 3: some of the things that I mean, you had to 361 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: play a lot of softs z own and go from there. 362 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's just part of the preseason. 363 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 7: You know, we're not the only team that has to 364 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 7: deal with that, and that's just one of the things 365 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 7: that you get overcome. 366 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 6: And I thought our guys for the most part did that. 367 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: What about your young running backs assess their performance tonight? 368 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 6: Good the good things. 369 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 7: You know, all three of those guys did an ice job, 370 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 7: making efficient games on first second down for us, had 371 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 7: some good short yard he runs as well, So I 372 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 7: was pleased with that group. 373 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 6: As a whole. 374 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 3: Yo, see Vosh continues to show. I mean he made 375 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: a great play in that touchdown reception. I mean looking 376 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 3: at him out there when he's by himself out there, 377 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 3: he looks like a quasi tight end. I mean he's 378 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: a big body guy that can run and jump. 379 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 6: Yes, he did an ice job. 380 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 7: Jake did a good job getting through the progression and 381 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 7: finding them, and he came down with a big play. 382 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: So, coach, where does it go from here? I mean, 383 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 3: I know, now you've got a long process here. I mean, 384 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: take us through the next forty eight hours. What are 385 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: you going to do as an individual, as a coaching staff, 386 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: as an organization? What goes on? 387 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll meet his coaches, We'll maybe we do can 388 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 7: his staff and make the decisions that are best for 389 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 7: an organization, you know, and then we'll go from there 390 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 7: and have our team meeting and talk to some of 391 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 7: the players and then get to work on Cleveland. 392 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 3: I know a couple of guys that was injury reporting, 393 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 3: a couple of guys that didn't sound serious injury part 394 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 3: of it. Did you come out okay? Do you think? 395 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 6: I think so. 396 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 7: But again, we'll always give it a night to sort 397 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 7: some of them out and see how they feel tomorrow. 398 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. It's that first night sleep, see 399 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 3: what it feels like the next morning. We've both been there, right, 400 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: appreciate your time. Thanks a lot, awesome, Thank you, Dave. 401 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by Kettering Health, 402 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. 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Now the nervous time begins for 409 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 2: a lot of youngsters who are wondering if they are 410 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: going to be one of the sixty nine guys with 411 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: a golden ticket, whether it's on the fifty three man 412 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: roster or the sixteen man practice squad. 413 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the ones that aren't on the sixteen man 414 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: practice squad here did they put enough on tape for 415 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 3: other teams around the league to say I saw something 416 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 3: there that he showed and stepped up in a time 417 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 3: when we were looking for people to maybe do that. 418 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 3: Or other guys are going to get opportunities with other 419 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: teams on their sixteen man practice squad. And that's going 420 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: to be the interesting thing with the roster death. You 421 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 3: wonder how picked over the Bengals sixteen man practice squad 422 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 3: is going to be in a quick fashion, you know so, 423 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 3: and that's in order to get off that sixteen men, 424 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: they're gonna have to go to some of these fifty 425 00:19:59,080 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 3: three man roster. 426 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: I think there's going to be some guys on the Bends. 427 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: Sixteen man practice squad that might be on somebody's fifty 428 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 3: three men roster. Potentially. He's going to be interesting to 429 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: see how many of those there might. 430 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: Be safe to say Jake Browning has won the number 431 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: two quarterback. 432 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 3: Job, Yeah, I would think so. I mean, his numbers 433 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 3: are are pretty impressive. You know, he had to step 434 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 3: up and get it done. And last week his quarterback 435 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: rating one thirty five point four were in four for 436 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 3: four for forty two yards and then tonight, he goes 437 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: six for six for another forty two in a touchdown, 438 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: ten for ten eighty four yards and tests on quarterback grinning. 439 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: He's going to be well up into the one forties. 440 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 3: And you know, he showed mobility. I think he showed 441 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: that he understands the offense. And Duke Tobin had an 442 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: interesting thing that he was talking about with us at halftime. 443 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: He says, his mind is the big thing. You know, 444 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 3: he understands that, he sees it. He gets the ball 445 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: out of his hand quickly as a result of that. 446 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: So they seem to be pretty high on. 447 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: One guy who is not going to be worrying about 448 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 2: having a spot on the roster is andre Yosi Bosh. 449 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: I'd have to say he was the bengals most impressive 450 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 2: preseason player, had a touchdown catch in the game tonight, 451 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: and was terrific in all three preseason games. 452 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 3: He was I mean, I think that, you know, like 453 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: Duke was talking about with us at halftime, again, he 454 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: was another part of the subject matter and he had 455 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 3: traits There's no doubt about it that they really liked. 456 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: And the only knock was the level of competition, you know, 457 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: playing at Princeton playing in the IVY League. Well, he 458 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: showed that he could step up. I mean, I think 459 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: the other thing, you know, you talk about Jake Browning's mind, 460 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: Yolsivash has to have a pretty strong mind himself in 461 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: terms of not raw intelligence and football intelligence. And sometimes 462 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: it doesn't equate to football intelligence, but it does to him. 463 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: He picks it up quickly. He's gifted. I mean, he's big, 464 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: he can run, he can jump. There's not much he 465 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: can't do physically. I think I think his future is 466 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 3: extremely bright. 467 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: There's no question the Bengals always had at least one 468 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: running back on the practice squad. We didn't know anything 469 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: really about Calvin Tyler and Jacob Sailors. They hadn't played 470 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: in the preseason. Jacob Sailors had a good game. He 471 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: got the ball eleven times, he had a twenty seven 472 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: yard run. They got wiped out by a penalty. If 473 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: nothing else, he certainly enhanced his chance of being on 474 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 2: that practice squad. 475 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 3: He did, you know, I mean, all you can ask 476 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: the young guy to do is to step up when 477 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 3: given the opportunity. And it's almost like all those guys 478 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 3: are like, hey, thanks for giving us everything. You give 479 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 3: us a training camp. Here's your opportunity to go put 480 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 3: something on tape. Now it's up to you to go 481 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 3: do it. He stepped up and did a big time. 482 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 3: I thought he was really good. I mean he caught 483 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 3: the ball well out of the backfield. I mean I 484 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 3: didn't notice anything glaring as Simon Arrows on his part, 485 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 3: So I mean I think that he helped himself a ton. 486 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: There's no question. 487 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: Last year at cutdown Day, Bengals added guys to their 488 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 2: fifty three man roster from other teams, and they were 489 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 2: drafting late or choosing late in the waiver process, and 490 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: they still were able to do it. Max Sharping arrived 491 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 2: that way, Devin asi Ossi got here that way. J 492 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: two fella got here that way. What do you think, 493 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 2: I mean, are they going to do something similar this year? 494 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 2: Is there a position group that you think that they 495 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: might target. 496 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: That's a good question. I mean, you know, you think 497 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: potentially running back, But then guys show up and play 498 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 3: the way they play tonight. I mean they may you know, 499 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: be able to make things happen for their practice squad 500 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 3: in that regard. And I do think the one big 501 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 3: positive that came out of the night, there's a couple 502 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: of guys that were nicked up, Osai being one, and 503 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: there was an offensive player that will lose Jontay Smith 504 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: in the offensive line. It doesn't sound like they're speaking 505 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 3: with Zach after the game. It doesn't sound like they're 506 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: devastating injuries. But you always want to give it overnight 507 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 3: and see what it's like the next morning. But I 508 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: don't think they're going to be any kind of a 509 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: long term thing. So but the thing that you know 510 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 3: that I thought was a big key is don't let 511 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: injuries have to be part of the evaluation process. In 512 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: other words, you know, it's just let the guy, is 513 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: his skill set good enough? Did he play well enough 514 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: to make the football team. It's like, oh, now I 515 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 3: gotta claim this guy, put this one on waivers, see 516 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 3: if he can clear waivers, and then cut this guy 517 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 3: and put this guy back on our roster, and all 518 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: those manipulations that they had to do they've had to 519 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 3: do in the past because of injuries. A guys, he's 520 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 3: only gonna be out six weeks, He's not gonna be 521 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: out the entire sit, but he has to be on 522 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 3: the fifty three men roster before he can go on 523 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: ir it looks like they've avoided all that. So I 524 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 3: think that's a big deal. And I think they'll just 525 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 3: be able to build their roster based on, you know, 526 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: instead of juggling injury semantics, they just can the guy 527 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 3: hopeless or not. 528 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: One of the most interesting decisions they have to make 529 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: this weekend involves one of our all time favorites, Mike Thomas. 530 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: Truly one of the great people that's ever come through 531 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: the Bengals locker room ever and fifty plus years of 532 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: the franchise. If they keep for safeties, he's probably not 533 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: one of the four. He's got tremendous special teams value. 534 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: If he's not on the fifty three man roster, you 535 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 2: can keep six veterans. They would love to have him 536 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: on the practice squad if he's willing at thirty three 537 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: years old. It's going to be very interesting to see 538 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 2: how that comes down. 539 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 3: It really is. And I told him after the game 540 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: that I said during the game that any roster is 541 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: better with Mike Thomas on that roster. He was very appreciative. 542 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 3: You know, I mean, he is that guy. I said, 543 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 3: you know what, forget football, I'm going to campaign for 544 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 3: him to be president of the United States. 545 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 5: Yur. 546 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 3: He actually started laughing, but I mean he, I mean, 547 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 3: he is a he is a special dude. It's going 548 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: to be it's going to be very interesting. And the 549 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: thing he held a very very important squat person protector 550 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: for Darren Simmons. And you know, I was thinking about 551 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: this last night as I was putting together my own 552 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: roster twenty five offense, twenty five defense, and three specialists 553 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: and then maybe you know, playing with it after that, if. 554 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: He's not one of the guys. 555 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: Man, you have a snapper that's in his second season, 556 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: he's got twenty games under his belt, counting playoffs, and 557 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: then you have a personal protector or a Jordan Battle 558 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 3: that's a rookie and a rookie punter. Potentially, it looks 559 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 3: like that that's going to be the case. I mean, 560 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 3: Mike Thomas took all of the personal protective snaps for Darren. 561 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 3: And in the very first game you go up to Cleveland, 562 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: they have a very good special teams coach and you know, 563 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 3: tight game, loud clock's running down, they run a funky 564 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 3: formation and it might be tough on the rookie. So 565 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 3: those are the kind of things that you think about 566 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 3: but if you make that decision, you have confidence that 567 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 3: Jordan Battle and others can handle it. 568 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: Or Mike Thomas went out there and this game played 569 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: out a position at corner because they needed somebody to 570 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: do it. Here's a thirty three year old guy who's 571 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 2: been playing safety and not cornerback for many, many years. 572 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 2: You know, did what the team needed him to do. 573 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: He will do anything that his football team passed of him. 574 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: And to me, I mean, I think, I think he 575 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: is the ultimate teammate. I mean, he really is. I 576 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 3: don't I think if they if you put into a 577 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 3: computer all the requirements both physically mentally, all the intangibles 578 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 3: that you need to have the perfect teammate. Michael Thomas 579 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: comes spitting out of. 580 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: Their final question. What's your concern level for Heavin McPherson 581 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: after the preseason? 582 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: Not real high, not real high. Sky's the limit there. 583 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that dude, he just he throws dynamite caps 584 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: on his toes before the game, in the pregame and 585 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: they start exploding. During the game. It is amazing to 586 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 3: see the ball come off that guy's foot. I mean, 587 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 3: it's you know, you I remember, you know, watching Major 588 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: League Baseball guys are batting practice and just hearing the 589 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 3: ball come off their bats, seeing their swing, and then 590 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 3: I mean, how does it make that noise? It doesn't 591 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: make that noise normally, you know. And the same thing 592 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: with him striking football. Some guys have this inate ability 593 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 3: to just crush. He's won. 594 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, get from fifty eight during the game and sixty 595 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: five yards during the pregame. 596 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 3: War months, and he's done that before. I mean, I 597 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: remember practice, he ended of practice to hit from sixty five. 598 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 3: We were right behind them, yep, just right down the middle. 599 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: It's pretty good, dude. 600 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: Come on, it's unbelievable. 601 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: By the way, Happy birthday to lapse wife Lynn and 602 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 2: his granddaughter Lucy. The season opener at Cleveland is now 603 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: two weeks away. Here's hoping a certain quarterback is able 604 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: to start practicing this week. The Bengals Booth podcast is 605 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: brought to you by pay Corps. 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That's all we hear. 615 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: Baby. 616 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 10: You go see them flying around, you go see them landing. 617 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 10: You know, Shaw Air Force Base or something to South Carolina, 618 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 10: can't miss it. 619 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: Did a bunch of your friends have parents that worked there? 620 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: I had quite a few military friends. I did. 621 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 10: A lot of new ones every year. You get like 622 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 10: new friends just because of that military base. 623 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: So we're visiting with Raymond Johnson the third. What sports 624 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: did you play growing up? 625 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 10: I did basketball, baseball, football, and track? 626 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: What in track? 627 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 10: All the big stuff you know, like shot put and discus? 628 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 6: No, right, guy of etts? You know? 629 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: Did you have any interest in non sports activities? 630 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 10: Nonsports activity? I love music, So I was trying to 631 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 10: dabble in music a little bit. I'm not like I'm 632 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 10: a crazy good thing or anything, but I'm great at 633 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 10: like writing lyrics and songs and stuff like that. 634 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: All Right, you've gotten interesting talent other than football. I 635 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: heard you say in an interview that you feel like 636 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: you've always an underdog. Has that been a big motivator 637 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 2: for you? 638 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 639 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 10: Man, just uh, anything I've done in life, I always 640 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 10: felt like the underdog cause it's always I'm always being overlooked. 641 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 10: I felt like, uh like, coming in high school, I 642 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 10: was only a three star and I didn't get that 643 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 10: rank until you know, after my last senior year, stuff 644 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 10: like that, and I always felt like, you know, I 645 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 10: was a dominant player, probably one of the best in 646 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 10: the state, and you know, I felt like that's just 647 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 10: started my underdog journey. And then when I went to college, 648 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 10: I went to a smaller Division one uh if uh 649 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 10: G five school, so it continue my underdog mentality. Of 650 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 10: course I wasn't drafted, and you know I'm here now 651 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 10: in the NFL and still underdog mentality. 652 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: So Georgia Southern was that school? Why did you choose 653 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: the egos? Uh? 654 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 10: It was basically the whole recruiting process. The Eagles stayed 655 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 10: with me through thick and thin. You know, even if 656 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 10: I wasn't sure I would actually qualify academically, cause you know, 657 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 10: I was a a knucklehead in school at the time, 658 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 10: so not taking it serious as I should. But you know, 659 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 10: Georgia Southern was there the whole time in their family. 660 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 10: They all family. 661 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: It's a family team, it's a it's family all around. 662 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: Egan Nations. Shout out to Egan Nation. 663 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: By the way. 664 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: A self proclaimed knucklehead in the classroom when you were young, 665 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: would you have gone to one of the big powerful 666 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: schools in South Carolina or nearby? Do you think if 667 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: you had paid better attention to your grades? I definitely do. 668 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 10: I think I think I would have failed to either 669 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 10: USC or Clemson, and those guys were showing interest, of course, 670 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 10: But like I said, knucklehead. 671 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: Man, well you changed your ways by the time you 672 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: got to college majored in sports management. Could you see 673 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: yourself working in a front office or for a college 674 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: athletic department someday after your playing careers finished. 675 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 10: I actually could either working in the front office or 676 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 10: going to the big screen man, because I you know, 677 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 10: I love to talk about the game. You know, always 678 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 10: been great at speaking out publicly. So you know, either 679 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 10: that or broadcasting or one of those things. Anything around 680 00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 10: the game is it sounds. 681 00:31:59,600 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: Good to me. 682 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: So you could see yourself as a color analyst done 683 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: a football broadcast man. 684 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 6: You know. 685 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: You notice. 686 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: We're visiting with Raymond Johnson the third. As you mentioned, 687 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: you weren't drafted, but many teams tried to sign you 688 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: immediately after the draft. You chose the New York Giants. 689 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: As it turns out, that was your favorite team growing 690 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: up in Sumter, South Carolina. Why did you become a 691 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: Giants fan? 692 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 10: Like all little kids, you know, you think you're running 693 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 10: back growing up and stuff and Tiki Barbara I was 694 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 10: huge on him. So they started out with Tiki, and 695 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 10: then as I got older, start developing on the dev 696 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 10: side of the ball and stuff. You know, I started 697 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 10: learning about guys like Alt and then you know, I'm 698 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 10: looking at this D line with Osu Yu Minari and 699 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 10: Justin Tuck and Jason Peter. 700 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: Paul and stuff. So it's just it's just that culture. Man. 701 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: I always loved it. 702 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: You're wearing the number fifty six in a Bengals uniform? 703 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 2: Is that for Lawrence Taylor? 704 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: It's not. 705 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 10: But you know, now that you say something, that's an 706 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 10: interesting thing. Though, I can get to start viewing it 707 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 10: that way. I definitely can. 708 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 2: It's a good guy a copy it is great guy 709 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: to coffee after being or after signing with the New 710 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: York Giants as an undrafted free agent. You made the 711 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: opening day roster a couple of years ago and wound 712 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: up playing in fifteen games. That's an incredible accomplishment. Described 713 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: that phone call when cut down weekend, they call you 714 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: up and say you've made the team. 715 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 10: Which is what is crazy. It actually wasn't a phone call. 716 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 10: When you get the phone call, that means you don't 717 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 10: make the team. So I didn't get a phone call. 718 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 10: And you know, coming into the league, I didn't really 719 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 10: know as much about fifty three man rosters and all that. 720 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 10: All I knew was like, you know, you either on 721 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 10: the team or you're on practice squad, you know, So 722 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 10: I never really knew about the call and if you know, 723 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 10: if you're on a fifty three year o on practice squad, 724 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 10: so you know, I found out that I was actually 725 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 10: on an official roster through like on the website and 726 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 10: then an interview shortly after practice and stuff. So I'm like, whoa. 727 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 10: You know, I didn't have no clue, but I'm glad 728 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 10: I did. 729 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: So not getting the phone call in this case was 730 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: the greatest thing. The greatest thing. Yes, sir, we're talking 731 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 2: to Raymond Johnson, the third You spent last year with 732 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: the Bengals on the practice squad. How did you approach 733 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: it when you didn't get to play in the games. 734 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 10: Just as an opportunity to get better and tone in 735 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 10: on my craft, getting a chance to go against a 736 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 10: championship caliber guys, you know, and making the most of it, 737 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 10: so you know, at first, of course, I don't think 738 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 10: I liked it at first, but just looking back on it, 739 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 10: I'm definitely thankful for it because it helped me took 740 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 10: my game to a next level. 741 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 2: I believe all right. Time for some wild card topics 742 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: now with Raymond Johnson the third? Have you had any 743 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: other jobs other than professional athlete? 744 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: Have I had any other jobs? Uh? 745 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know. I used to do yard work all 746 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 10: the time for money and stuff. A lot of blue 747 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 10: collar jobs actually, like moving stuff, moving trees, branches and 748 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 10: stuff with some of my families and their friends and 749 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 10: businesses and stuff like that. But never really think that's like, 750 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 10: you know, a white college job or paperwork anything, and neever, 751 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 10: that sort. 752 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: That stuff helps helps build strength. 753 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: It does it very different, it does. 754 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: Do you have any hidden talents? 755 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: I can rap? 756 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 10: I can rap and I'm great at freestyling on the spot. 757 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 10: I don't know why. Well, actually I do know why. 758 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 10: My dad used to always wrapping the car and just 759 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 10: freestyle and stuff, and I don't know. As I got older, 760 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 10: I just I became great at it. So it's kind 761 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 10: of you know, it's funny. 762 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 2: On the flip side of that, what are you terrible at? 763 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm terrible at golf. 764 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 10: I want to get better at that, just because when 765 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 10: I'm done with football, of course, I want to be 766 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 10: out there on a you know, on the course, cutting up. 767 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: Man. 768 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 2: It's a game for life. That's a good thing about golf. 769 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 2: Have you ever had a pet? 770 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: I had a few. I had a lot of dogs 771 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: growing up. 772 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 10: I had like a rock Waller, a pig, a poodle, 773 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 10: and now me and my fiance have like a Yorkie 774 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 10: and a shit too, so a Yorkie and Shitsu nick. 775 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm I'm a dog person. 776 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: Who is the greatest athlete of all time in any sport. 777 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 10: I'm gonna say Serena Williams. Serena Williams. She don't get 778 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 10: a lot of credit, and I think it's because she's 779 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 10: a woman. But Serena is a crazy athlete and if 780 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 10: you study her closely, you can. You can definitely make 781 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 10: that argument for her. 782 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 2: Are you a tennis fan. 783 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 10: I'm not, but that's also one of those sports. I'm 784 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 10: trying to double him more. Just you know, I'm trying 785 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 10: to dobble in a little bit of everything. 786 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: Good for you, sir. All right, final question, this one's 787 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 2: a little bit deep. If you could meet anybody in history, 788 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 2: living or deceased, could be an athlete and entertainer, a statesman, 789 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 2: who would that person be? 790 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: That's a great question. 791 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 10: So if I could meet anybody, I think I would 792 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 10: want to meet my great grandfather. I heard from my 793 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 10: great grandmother, who loves to talk a lot by the way, 794 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 10: that I remind him, I'll remind her of him a lot. 795 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 10: And he was a tall guy too, great man. 796 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: From what I heard. 797 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 10: I heard he was a good looking fellow. So you know, 798 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 10: of course it runs and ags. Not surprised, but I 799 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 10: would definitely want to beat my great grandfather definitely. 800 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: That's an excellent answer, Raymond. Best of luck in the 801 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: final preseason game and throughout the season. I appreciate your time, yes, sir, 802 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 2: I appreciate you too. 803 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. 804 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: I think the scoring crew in Washington jypped Raymond Johnson 805 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: out of a half sack on Saturday Night. I believe 806 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 2: he finished the preseason with two sacks and a team 807 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 2: high five quarterback hits. 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