WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Michael Wilbon (06-09-20) 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.600 Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:05.200 sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:08.280 noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:11.440 and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.880 FSR or stream us live every day at YouTube dot 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:17.759 com slash The Dan Patrick Show. Find a hour on 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:21.599 this Tuesday, Dan and The Dane's Dan Patrick's Show. Well 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.080 here from Michael Wilbon from Pardon the Interruption, He'll join 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.200 us coming up. We criticize Major League Baseball for its 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:30.000 slow pace of play, but apparently both Baseball and the 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:33.480 Players Association capable of moving extremely fast when it comes 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.680 to shooting down each other's proposals. Yesterday morning, it came 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:41.760 out Baseball wanted to play seventy six games players getting 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.320 seventy five percent of their pay. An hour later, we 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.479 find out that the union was thinking more along the 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.600 lines of one hundred percent pay for as many games 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.520 as they can get. So the dance has been going 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.720 on for quite some time, and every time I say 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:57.840 to myself, I'm not going to engage. Nope, you're not 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:59.760 going to get me this time around. I'm not going 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:03.640 to invest. It's fascinating to see the two sides dig 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:08.120 deeper into their stances at exactly the wrong time. It 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.240 almost feels like a comedy. And that being said, it's 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:13.039 a whole lot easier to giggle if they figured this 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:17.280 out in the end, at least a lot more fun baseball. Well, 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.360 nobody's in a hurry, it feels like, but they should 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.640 be because it's no laughing matter, certainly for the loyal fans. 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.840 And yes, we go back and forth on this, it 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.640 feels like we have an arbitrary deadline. Well, if you 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:30.360 don't come back by this date, you're not going to 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.959 be able to get in next number of games. Remember 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:38.000 Scott Boris said, why don't we play baseball through Christmas? 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.280 I don't know where Scott was going to play some 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.920 of those games that involved East Coast teams, But he's 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.720 smarter than I am, so maybe he had a better idea. Here, 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.000 you got a window here. Your window of opportunity is 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.280 closing rapidly. Now you might be able to come back, 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.360 but your window of opportunity is closing. From the standpoint 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.520 of fans are eventually going to say, you know what, 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.120 you don't care about us, why should we care about you? 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:10.280 Here comes football NFL, College football, NBA is going to 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.400 be in the sweet spot. They're going to have their 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.520 playoff games. You got marquee players, big names involved in 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:19.000 the playoffs in Major League Baseball is going to continue 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.080 to poke and prod each other and we're not making 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:28.080 any progress. I remain optimistic because of the number of 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.160 people involved in this and the amount of money involved 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:35.360 in this. Local TV contracts. You know, part of the 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.400 reason why the NBA was pushing to come back and 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:41.359 play some regular season games is they had to make 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:45.120 sure that they played the allotted number of games for 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.079 what would be constituted a full season for the local 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:53.160 TV contracts and their network TV contracts. We're talking about 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.320 four hundred million dollars at stick here. That's what this 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.760 is all about. Now. We can talk about players safety, 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.800 and we should, but this is about money. It's about 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:06.000 money with the NFL, money with Baseball, money with the NBA. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:11.040 That's the bottom line, and maybe baseball finds a window 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.400 where they can get together. It feels like you need 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.520 a mediator here. You need to somebody to say, all right, 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.200 let's get both sides here. What do you want, what 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.360 will you give? What do you want? What will you 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.640 give find some common ground here? You need a marriage 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.120 counselor you need a baseball counselor who can just say, 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.440 can we get this? How do we get this? And 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:34.480 I know that we love to think that, hey, we'll 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.720 come back because they know the importance of it, and 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.400 you know what's going on in our society, we need 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.680 it more. I don't know if they need it more. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.240 The owners are saying, we're gonna lose money. Players are saying, 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.920 we're risking our health and we're gonna come back for 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:55.120 less money. And meanwhile the fans, we're just gonna go, Okay, 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.920 we'll wait and eventually you don't wait anymore and you'll 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:04.200 move on. And that's unfortunate. But baseball has done this 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:09.640 to itself. It'sself inflicted. And then you're going to get 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.880 players because the owners are going they want to have 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.120 speed up pace a play, maybe they mike some of 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.080 the players. Players aren't going to do any of that stuff. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.840 If anything, you're going to get players who will do 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:25.240 the opposite. They're not going to cooperate pace a play. 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.440 Do you realize what's what you know? When we talked 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.440 to Tom Berducci yesterday, I said who's the team we 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.640 should keep an eye on when when baseball comes back, 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.160 He said, the Tampa Bay Rays because they have the 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.279 deepest pitching steps. So what we're gonna have is pitching 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:45.480 change after pitching change after pitching change, and probably very 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.839 little offense because it takes offense a little bit longer 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.479 to catch up to pitch it. But that's what's in 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.560 store when they come back. Might not even be a 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.240 good product when they come back. Yeah, boy, I know 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.479 this is impossible that, don't you wish every once in 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.440 a while the commission of a sport have a not 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:05.240 I guess vital power, but unlimited powers maybe once in 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:06.720 a while, almost like for the good of the game 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.560 emergency situation where the creature says, we are going to 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:11.800 play baseball and we're gonna get it done. Like I know, 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.479 because of the players union, you cannot, But doesn't he 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.120 have the power to say you're coming back and playing 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:19.760 a fifty game schedule? Because this is what I brought 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.040 up the other day. I was told they might come 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:27.880 back without an agreement because the commissioner can invoke his 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.080 powers or some rule that says you got to come back. 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.920 Yeah mclovin, Yeah, we were going over before the show. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.360 They reached an agreement in March which opened the door 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.560 for Manfred to mandate whatever schedule he wants. So they 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.520 already signed off in March that Manfred can make an 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:44.320 emergency Yeah, man date. Yeah, byway. They got a hurry 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.400 because if they go in October, they're gonna push against 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.159 the NFL, and that'd be a rating disaster for Baseball. 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.560 Out of the World Series in October, fill and Indiana 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.400 joins us. So I Phil, what do you have for me? Hey? Dan, 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.599 It's always a great pleasure to speak with you. I 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.960 wanted to comment, do these guys under stand that forty 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.640 million Americans lost their job through this pandemic and then 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.599 those that didn't, probably seventy five percent took a massive 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:12.719 pay cut, maybe up to fifty percent. I mean, you know, 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.480 Major League Baseball has a window every year, if only 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:20.279 mid June through July anyway, and so this would alienate 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.599 fans I think for the rest of their life, including myself, 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.839 I would never come back as if this continues to 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:28.680 go on and then they hold out. So I just 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.600 wanted to get your thoughts. Thanks as always, Dan, You're man. 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:36.400 Thank you, Phil I'm sure the players understand, you know, unemployment, 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:41.640 people who have been affected by this, but then they 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.920 get you know, then it's about the individual and then 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:45.720 you say, I want to get mine. Hey, if I 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:47.880 don't do this and stand up for my rights, then 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:51.039 it's going to affect players down the road. We don't 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.800 want a salary cap. We don't want ownership to have 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.640 control over our salaries any more than they already do. 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.520 And I mean you have to understand they've been going 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:03.080 addie each other for decades. You can change commissioners, you 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.280 can change the head of the players association. This is 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:10.440 a sport that has had volatility when it comes to negotiations, 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:15.040 true volatility, and that's unfortunate. But that's where we are 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.480 and it's not going away anytime soon, even during a pandemic, 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:23.480 even during unemployment. We talked about this prior to the 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.000 start of the show. Pauli says, I got an idea. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.160 There's eight teams that are not going to play in Orlando, 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.560 and these teams say, we want to play, we want 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.360 to be able to play. We don't get to go 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.000 into the play in portion of the postseason. They don't 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.840 get to have regular season games and Paul said, well, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.480 why don't we just have an eighteen tournament and we 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.160 can spread it out over three to five days, and 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.840 the winner of the eight teams that are not in 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.960 the play in portion of this get the number one pick. 0:07:55.680 --> 0:08:00.920 You could have some good matchups there. You get matchups there, Charlotte, Hornet's, 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.240 Golden State, love It, Chicago Bowls, Cleveland Cabs. Yeah, this 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.880 is actually like you on a Thursday night in November. 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:08.840 Oh yeah, this is a normal night for me, next 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:14.520 to Wolves, WHOA, Pistons, Hawks, Saucy. Oh. They each play 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.600 one game eight. It's basically three nights right before the 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:22.000 NBA season starts. Three nights, single elimination winner gets the 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:23.480 number one pick of the draft. And if you do 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.760 this going forward, you can kind of a curtail tanking. 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.000 I like it. I think I need to change the 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.680 tournament's name though. It's the USI. Yeah, it's very American 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.720 feeling us US I. Yeah, but it stands for you 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.600 sunk invitation. Don't worry about that. I know, but that's 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.439 the problem I gone here. Yes, but if you say 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.360 you're playing in the USA, it doesn't sound so terrible. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.320 Is there a racing league called the USAC. Yes, they 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:47.560 got away with it for a long time and that's 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:51.560 funny as hell. Yes, usak my sack, Yes, mclovin. What's 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:55.319 the player's motivation here? Like they get paid? Yeah, they 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.800 but do they want to prove Yeah, let's let's play 0:08:57.840 --> 0:08:59.320 really hard so we can get a guy who's gonna 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.200 take my job. Now Here, it feels like the players 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.600 are a funny spot. They're playing for a lottery spot. 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.920 So you would rather not play well and somebody come 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.600 in and take your spot. Or you are going to 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.679 play well and you get the number one. Watch the 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.560 Bulls play because they hate their coach and all one 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.160 out of well they're going to get that season so bad? 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.840 Yeah yeah see. Or if you're the one decent player 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.000 on the team with a bunch of scrubs, you're like, 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:27.600 finally I could get somebody decent. I think it would 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.160 be fun to have these teams at least have a tournament, 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:34.160 and if you want to have them play in Vegas instead, 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.280 you could, you could do something that would be interesting. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:40.440 We're trying to get rid of tanking, all right, and 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.839 how can I get rid of tanking? I always thought 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.280 that if you ended when a team was eliminated from 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.079 the postseason, the number of wins that you accumulated would 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.959 determine the order of the draft. And if you were 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.280 not a good team and you were out early, you 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.560 could start accumulating victories and then you know the order 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.360 of the draft. Because the worst team. How many times 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.560 does the worst team get the best player in the draft, 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.520 the number one overall pick. Pelicans weren't the worst team 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:11.439 last year. Orlando a few years ago with Anthony Hardaway, 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.640 they had the lowest odds of winning the lottery and 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:19.040 they got him. Do we have numbers on that? How 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.880 many times does the worst team with the lottery? Because 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:26.720 you know, because Cleveland tank to get Lebron But it 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.840 was a little bit. It was simpler back then when 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:35.440 you were tanking. Now with the lottery, Yeah, mclovin, Yeah, 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.000 I mean a coy. I'm looking at the there's a 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:39.960 list like right now, the worst team has a fourteen 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:43.000 percent chance. Before that it was a twenty five percent 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:46.000 chance until twenty eighteen, and then before that it was 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.000 a sixteen percent chance. So they've lowered it just odds wise, 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.280 it's very You're right, it has been a lot of 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.280 turn over but they only have a fourteen percent chance 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.439 in the lottery. Now. Yeah, but how many times is 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:59.079 the worst team in the NBA won the lottery. Yeah, 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.800 mcleven's right, past few years, it's been waited. So the 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.440 worst team the Sons in eighteen, the Nets in seventeen, 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:09.040 the Sixers and sixteen, the Timberwolves in fifteen were all 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:10.760 the worst team in the league and they got the 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.680 first pick in the draft. If you before that, you 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.200 have to go back to the Orlando Magic in O four. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:20.520 So basically there was a ten year run where a 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.199 team that was not the worst team in the league 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.160 record wise got the first pick in the draft, which 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:28.160 caused the commissioner to change it. Yeah, I just and 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.640 I like that if you know you're at worst guaranteed 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.200 a certain spot in the draft. I like that. If 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.240 you're gonna want to help these teams, I just don't 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:40.240 want to reward tanking, and we have rewarded tanking. Yeah. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.560 Your Orlando Magic Dan in ninety nineteen ninety three had 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.840 one ping pong ball out of sixty six. They had 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.120 a one point five percent chance and they won it. 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.480 Got Chris Webber traded for Penny Hardway. End up in 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.840 the NBA Finals two years later. There's a there's a 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.160 few others like that, like you know the New Jersey 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.160 Nets they got Kenyan Martin. They were the seventh worst team. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.800 The Chicago Bulls were the ninth worst team and got 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.800 Derek Rose. The Clippers got Kyrie Iring. They were the 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:12.160 eighth worst team. Nate John traded the pick to the Cavs. Yeah, mcclub. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.240 Do you remember who the Sixers took that year between 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.480 Penny and Chris Webber. You went to interview him in Australia. 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:23.440 Is it Sean Sean Bradley? Yeah? Oh what did they 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:28.199 take Penny or or Weber? I don't know, but there 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.200 was this fascination with Sean Bradley was seven to six, 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.920 played at by U and he hadn't He could run 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.320 the floor and he could shoot jumpers. I thought Sean 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:42.400 Bradley was going to be really good. It didn't work 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:47.160 out that way. Sean is probably on more posters that 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.680 aren't supposed to feature him than any other player in 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.760 NBA history, because it always felt like when you watch 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.520 somebody dunking and to go out Sean Bradley and they're 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.320 trying to lunk the shoan. I do give Sean Bradley credit. 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.520 He did challenge everybody's dunks and us paid the price. There. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:08.120 Maybe you should let me see Stephen St. Louis Johns is. 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.360 Good morning, Steve. What do you have for me today? 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:14.440 A dance? Six six two sixty? There you go, baby, 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:19.040 m Hey love your show. Um watch you forever. But 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:23.040 I'm not quite sure blasting all things University of Missouri 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.839 is a good play. I would compare as a father 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.280 who puts three kids through Missoo and married his wife. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.680 Wait wait, wait, I didn't blast all things Missoo. I 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:35.760 just blasted their football team. Well, I know, I know 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.800 that the tailgating at Eatri, Kentucky and Dayton and Clayton 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.040 is a excuse me, Cornell is off the charts. But 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.360 have you ever been to a game at the university? 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.040 So why should I go to the game? Why shouldn't 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.360 I just go to the tailgate? Steve? Apparently that's what's 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.640 the most exciting part of this. Well, I don't agree 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.120 with that. Generation My kids would echo that I'm the 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:56.880 old guy that sits in the seats, that doesn't leave 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.120 even when we're winning. Steve, all I'm pointing out is 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.480 they shouldn't be in the SEC, and they haven't been 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.120 very good and they usually play a new and Eastern game. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.800 So well, Gary pink Gary Pinko put him in two SEC. 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.079 Back to back champion Gary Pinkoll had a pretty nice run. 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.000 That was only three years ago. I mean, I mean, 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.840 there was fair point, that's fair, but they should be 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.400 in the Big ten. The Big Ten didn't want Missouri. 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.560 They should be in the Big Ten. I'm just pointing 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.040 out a couple of things here, Steve, you're too close 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.440 to it. Maybe I'm not close enough to it. But 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.560 I didn't say anything about, uh, you know, we were 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.360 gonna go tailgating or anything. I just was talking about 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.440 the football program. And it feels like when they had 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.360 Chase Daniel, that's when you had a team that was 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.680 at least naturally recognized. That's all. Yeah, Paulie Dan, I 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.440 don't know how many times over the years I've told 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.520 you not to rile up the Missouri football fan base 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.520 and you never listen to me. Yeah. Yeah, apparently I 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.600 think I was ripping all things Missouri. According to Steve Yes, 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.440 I see, Well, you've certainly stirred something up because I 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:56.920 was just for the first time in a long time. 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:00.160 I just went through our email. Yeah. Um, and I'm 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.760 gonna set the over under of angry emails from Missouri 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:09.040 football fans at two. Okay, what do you have over under? 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.080 I'm gonna go under it's under. We got exactly one 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:20.800 and it said, MISSOI hates Dan Patrick. Oh boy, we 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.400 sure he's ripping the whole school. No, we're just saying 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.080 your football team should be in the Big ten and 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.760 you haven't had you had Drew Locke. That's how we started. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.560 I started talking about Drew Locke and then you had 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:37.800 to play at games at noon eastern? So yeah, are 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.560 we forgetting the Blaine Gabbert era. By the way, I 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.840 don't even remember if he played sicily, wasn't he hurt 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.080 for part of it? I don't remember. I have no 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.400 memory of mind. I haven't even moved on from the 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.600 Brad Smith ere. You go. There a Plaine Gabbert Bowl 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.440 game where we all watched him have one big game 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.720 his entire career. That was the only memory anyone out 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.840 of him. You had a memory that never left you 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.600 because I loved you. Fell in love with Blaine Gavert. 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.680 Oh it's shorts at his pro day. He completely passes 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.400 one of the greats. Yes, let's say that sounds like 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.960 the twenty ten Insight Bowls. I think Missouri. I went 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.440 to University of Missouri to visit when I was in college. 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:18.280 The talent, though, is off the charts. It's sneaky. I'm 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.600 not talking about the school. I just said they should 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.920 be in the Big Ten. Columbia has a lot of 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:28.520 talent Big ten, and that the football program is has 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.200 not been great. That's all. Yes, we're going did that? 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.040 Do say? I went to Cornell? Oh? Yeah, yet at wrong, 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.480 that's basically. And then he was talking about Eastern Kentucky. Yeah, 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.040 when I went to Eastern Kentucky, they were winning championships 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.080 all the time with Roy Kidd as their head coach. 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:49.360 For real, Wait are you? Are you insulted because he 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:53.560 said Cornell? Yeah, Cornell? What am I a hotel major? 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:58.600 I mean that doesn't even make sense. What am I gonna? Wow? Wow? 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:02.320 I could give them the Cornell? No, you could. At 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.480 least he did say Penn. I mean that would have 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:09.439 been night Penn Penn State. And so he gave me 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:13.520 a shot on Dayton, which won Division three championships. Wait, 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:18.280 did Eastern Kentucky win national championships in UH not Division 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.159 one but whatever it was one double A back then 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.280 Roy Kidd won three hundred games or something. There's their 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:25.840 head coach. Why did you go there? You knew you 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.479 were going to be able to throw up shots at 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.960 the school that was successful. Oh, I believe me. It 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.240 was the biggest mistake where I went. I'm not even 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.159 given this. I'm gonna go to a place that doesn't 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:40.879 want me. That's a great philosophy. Coach doesn't want me. 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.119 That's the place I want to go. And uh and Dayton, 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.000 Now we're not very good in tailgating, but we'll kick 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:52.520 your assing party in per capita. Wait, will just ask playboy. 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.359 They put us in the Hall of Fame, like they 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.080 got tired of ranking Dayton as a party school. They 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:03.040 just put us in the Hall of fame per capita. 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.879 There's nobody better. Yeah, pull, there's some party schools in 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.960 this room. If you think about southern Illinois, West Virginia, 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:12.719 I mean, you may not come back Dayton. Accurate, Dartmouth, 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.200 you may not go back. Dharmouth is sneaky and my 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:19.960 house space of Dartmouth. And then you have NYU. Sorry, yeah, yeah, 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.080 but you were at home with your mom. I was. 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:26.080 I had a nice head of Thomas poster. Yeah yeah, 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.199 it could have been killing it in the city. Yes, love, 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.880 I gotta be honest. West Virginia from Seaton stories seem 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:32.760 I know Daton did in the Hall of Fame in 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:36.320 southern Illinois, but West Virginia does seem a little next level. 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.800 They write, I feel like every school has a Playboy 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.320 story about being on the list. But the year that 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.840 I was there, they I forget what. I think, like 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.760 Delaware or somebody are like Rhode Island was number one, 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.240 but there was an asterisk next to it, and when 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.439 you went down to the bottom, it said, sorry, West Virginia, 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:58.400 we don't include professionals. I don't doubt that. I don't 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:02.000 doubt that at all. I just know Dayton per capita 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:06.200 it was. That was a festive place, a festive place 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.200 I went to a party in my college education broke out. 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.960 That was basically it. It's like, oh, oh, I got 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.679 to go to class now. Now I'm going to hear 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:20.480 from Missouri fans this is it. The local talk shows 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:23.359 are going to be all over this. Dan Patrick slams 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:27.200 missou No, no, once again, I don't want you in 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.080 the SEC. You don't belong there, and I'd like to 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.679 have you in the Big ten. You might actually be 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.080 a real contender in the Big ten. That would be 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.280 nice and be nice if you know the team didn't 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:45.480 play noon Eastern games, because I'm watching those games. I 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.639 don't know how many other people are. And that's not 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:49.680 your choice. Well, it is your choice. If you're better, 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.880 you're probably not doing a Neon Eastern game. Michael Wilbon 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:56.159 will join us. He's used to riling people up. He 0:19:56.200 --> 0:20:02.359 went to Northwestern. It's Northwestern apart school. Oh no, not 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.040 not reputation wise. You guys are going to go through 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:08.240 this with your your children, and Fritzie's going through it now. 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.600 Where you look at all these schools for your kids, 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.280 and then you'll always hear on it's party school. Every 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.600 school that my kids looked at, Ah, it's party school. 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.159 And I went, not every school is a party There 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:24.720 are degrees, varying degrees of partying. But it's a party school. 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:29.400 I said, well, you know where is not a party school? Here? 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.360 Take a break here twenty one after the hour back 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.639 after this and the Dan Patrick Show, Thanks for listening 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:36.920 to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.480 us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:43.360 six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.800 local station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.639 Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:53.280 the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R. This program 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:56.119 rot to you BAM or Sadie's AMGB Prepared for whatever 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:58.120 comes your way. 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